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Episode: Pablo Torre Weighs In on The JFK Assassination, Mike Tomlin Readies the Steelers for Daniel Dimes, and Why the Chiefs Versus Bills Remains the Best QB Battle in Football

Date: October 31, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
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Episode Overview

This lively Halloween episode blends sports talk—mostly NFL and NBA—with classic Dan Le Batard show banter, nostalgia, and skepticism, featuring Dave Damaschek as guest host and the much-anticipated appearance of Pablo Torre. The crew dive into everything from weekly NFL picks, the enduring mystery around the JFK assassination, the mindset of superstar athletes addicted to "the action," and the current state of sports journalism. Hilarious, irreverent, and occasionally introspective, this episode encapsulates the show's unique mixture of sports, pop culture, and good-natured chaos.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Honoring Jersey Numbers and Sports Memories

[01:10–04:49]

• The crew begins by honoring episode number 21, naming Deion Sanders as the greatest NFL player to wear that number.
  • “I think it’s pretty easy to say it’s Deion Sanders, right? Any debate there, fellas?” – Dave Damaschek [01:40]
• Others mentioned: Sean Taylor, LaDainian Tomlinson ("LT2"), Charles Woodson, Tim Duncan, Peter Forsberg, Roberto Clemente.
  • Side note: Spirited discussion about retiring Clemente’s number across MLB akin to Jackie Robinson [03:35].

Halloween Gripes and Adult Costuming

[05:19–07:34]

• The team debates the virtues and pitfalls of grownups dressing up for Halloween, with Damaschek as a self-proclaimed "curmudgeon."
  • “This thing of having to get dressed up...Just leave me out of your Halloween party.” – Damaschek [05:43]
• Funny costume mishaps and adult anxiety around party attire; Mike and Gino dressed up, with Bradley donning a confusing mask ("Death Eater", "Dr. Doom?").

NFL Picks, Betting, and “Pick Six”

[08:57–15:41]

• The group runs through their Pick Six betting selections with DraftKings, focusing on player touchdown scorers and betting strategy.
• Discussion of the Chiefs-Bills showdown as a season "crossroads" game; Damaschek sticking with his preseason Bills-Packers Super Bowl prediction [07:42].
• Talk of fantasy biases and “hot hand” fallacy in betting:
  • “Dave goes by this thing called the hot hand fallacy...that only works for Jonathan Taylor.” – Mike [10:31]
• Breakdown of top picks: DeAndre Swift, Kyron Williams, Josh Allen (over 1.5 TD passes), Jamar Chase, Rashee Rice, Jameer Gibbs [09:32–11:02].

Interview: Pablo Torre on Investigative Sports Journalism, Gambling, and Iconic Mysteries

[15:41–41:15]

Gambling and Athletes’ Psychology

[18:03–23:12]

• Pablo considers why high-earning NBA players risk it all with gambling: is "the action the juice"?
  • “What seems like a luxurious life is kind of also this nightmare...Michael Jordan...famously said he’s not addicted to gambling, he’s addicted to competition. I urge you to find the distinction in that difference.” – Pablo Torre [18:36]
• Contrasts Michael Jordan’s insatiable drive with Charles Barkley’s seemingly content post-career demeanor.

Shaq vs. Kobe: “What is Enough?”

[23:12–25:12]

• Explores the “Shaq or Kobe” archetype: is it better to be content with success, or never satisfied? Shaq embodies satisfaction, Kobe relentless striving.
  • “Shaq will endorse anything. He wants to play himself into shape…brand management is just, like, not a concern.” – Pablo Torre [24:36]

Torres on Enduring Mysteries & Conspiracy Theories

[25:12–29:15]

• The hosts hit Pablo with rapid-fire on classic mysteries:
  • Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone? Pablo confesses little expertise but is skeptical of grand claims. [25:30]
  • “I’m embarrassed to admit… I feel like I need to for branding reasons” – Torre [25:30]
• Moon landing? 100% real: “Buzz Aldrin putting the courage of his convictions on a viral video…” – Torre [27:20]
• The Sixth Sense movie twist inspired his curiosity:
  • “I was inspired to become an investigative journalist because I didn’t see it coming. And I vowed to never feel that embarrassment ever again.” – Pablo Torre [28:03]

Sports Scandals and Sports Journalism Today

[29:37–39:53]

• Torre’s favorite Patriots scandal: “I still love the Deflator as a character... That’s some Coen brothers stuff.” [30:04]
• General skepticism toward "newsbreakers" in modern journalism, distinguishing between actual investigative reporting and "just being fed things by agents or sources.”
  • “I do think there is something to reporting stuff that would not be known otherwise… that others don’t want you to know.” – Pablo Torre [36:47]
  • “Is this actually news? Are you actually breaking it? Are you being fed this by an agent or league source?” – Pablo Torre [38:48]

Genuine Risks of Investigative Work

[32:11–35:32]

• Torre addresses concerns about risk when reporting on crime, the mob, and government.
  • “My sense of how much I should be worried… I have not really adjusted my behavior… If you’re trying to get me right now, there are a lot of suspects.” – Pablo Torre [32:59/33:45]
• Affectionate warning from the crew: “Pablo, we’re worried about you. The whole Le Batard crew, everybody here.” – Gino [34:12]

NFL Game Preview and Picks

[41:48–53:52]

The crew go through their top five games for the week:

1. Vikings vs. Lions – Lions favored; consensus is Detroit’s offense will overpower Minnesota’s struggles. [42:37–44:37]
2. Rams vs. Saints & Packers vs. Panthers – Both heavy favorites; skepticism toward big lines, but see the Rams covering. [45:50–47:16]
3. Colts vs. Steelers – Steelers as home underdogs; expect a classic Mike Tomlin bounce-back spot. [47:48–51:12]
   • “This is a Mike Tomlin special. When you think they’re all down and out…this is the kind of game he wins.” – Damaschek [50:32]
4. Broncos vs. Texans – Team leans Denver due to matchup advantages and skepticism of Houston’s O-line. [51:33–52:36]
5. Chiefs vs. Bills – Hailed as the NFL’s elite QB battle. Some pick Buffalo (home field, regular season magic), others pick Chiefs due to returning pieces and “statement” opportunity. [52:50–53:52]
   • “They’re tired of hearing all this shit about how the Bills are the team in the AFC now…they’re going to make a statement.” – Mike [53:34]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On athletes’ impossible high:
  • “I think…once you get done with that, probably life has a weird…you’re searching for some meaning, or what you’re looking for is action.” – Damaschek [21:04]
• On Charles Barkley’s happiness:
  • “He loves, loves a casino…but I look at him and I’m like, that guy seems happy. And maybe I’m buying into a different fiction.” – Torre [21:04]
• On journalism today:
  • “We need to sort of distinguish who gets to use that word. There is something to the craft.” – Torre [36:47]
• On investigative work risk:
  • “If you’re trying to get me right now, there are a lot of suspects.” – Torre [33:45]
• On the JFK Assassination:
  • “I could probably hit him with a football.” – Damaschek [26:29]
  • “Lee Harvey Oswald: clutch gene.” – Pablo Torre [27:14]
• Halloween Costume Woes:
  • “Did I overdo it? Did I underdo it? Either way, I don’t want to be put in that spot.” – Damaschek [05:43]

Fun Miscellany

• Extended joking about character confusion between Dr. Doom and a Harry Potter Death Eater [41:32, 40:14].
• Shout-out to an undefeated high school football team: “Jean Claude Van Damask and all his teammates at Crespi High School…” [07:42].

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:10 – Honoring #21 and great sports jersey numbers
• 05:19 – Halloween costumes and adulthood grievances
• 08:57 – NFL “Pick Six” betting talk
• 15:41 – Pablo Torre joins: intro and mix of topics
• 18:36 – Athlete psychology: gambling as “the action” and competition high
• 23:12 – Shaq vs. Kobe satisfaction debate
• 25:30 – Torre on JFK assassination and other mysteries
• 32:11 – Risks and consequences of investigative journalism
• 36:47 – The real work of journalism vs. newsbreakers
• 41:48 – NFL Week 9 top 5 picks breakdown

Conclusion

This episode is a quintessential blend of sports analysis and Le Batard Show style: irreverent, inquisitive, and rich in both pop and sports culture references. Pablo Torre’s appearance steers it into more intellectual territory with reflections on journalism, the psychology of athletes, and the fine line between news and noise, all while keeping it funny and fresh. The NFL picks discussion is thorough and entertaining—a must-listen for fans trying to get the week’s edge, but equally enjoyable for listeners just along for the ride.

For new and longtime listeners alike, this episode is an entertaining and thoughtful conversation about the state of sports, life in the spotlight, and why we chase what we do—on and off the field.