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Sports Analyst 1
Precious little conversation about the club World cup we had an amazing upset with Al Hilal upsetting Manchester City. We have brilliant runs by Brazilian clubs, one of which Fluminese playing Chelsea today in one semifinal, the other semifinal Real Madrid vs. PSG. But I want to take the opportunity to talk about domestic soccer, both with a Gold Cup. Pochettino. There are signs of encouragement against a much better Mexican team. Remember, not the A plus side or best available side that the United States could have sent out there. Seeds of what Poach's vision's going to be. But I want to talk about Leo Messi. We don't talk about this guy enough. He's the biggest Superstar. Even though LeBron's played down here. Leo Messi is by far the biggest superstar we've ever had play locally. He had arguably his most impressive goal as a member of Inter Miami. There have been the long distance free kick. Goals have been a thing of beauty, but in terms of actual skill, dribbling through traffic the way that he did against Montreal was unbelievable. There's a player that is 38 years old headed into an expiring contract. His contract expires in December. What do you think is going to happen there? Because I finally put on my reporting hat and started poking around what does this club think Messi is going to do? And it almost should go without saying. The ball is entirely in Messi's court. Inter Miami feel very good about the offer that they have to him. That being said, he could renegotiate and stay in inter Miami. The MLS season ends in December. Does this player, who's 38 years old, take the opportunity to rest in advance of next summer's World cup, his final World cup as reigning champion with Argentina? Or does he go to a European club and continue to stay sharp and informed as that tournament approaches? We've had several high profile designated players in MLS take the opportunity to go somewhere else in Europe and make sure they stay sharp. What do you think is going to happen, Greg? Is this an opportunity for him to make sure that everybody knows he's a loyalty Inter Miami? He's going to be there for the start of their campaign in the new stadium? Or does he take the opportunity to say let me have the best of both worlds or does he leave entirely?
Sports Analyst 2
I don't think he leaves entirely. He has a vested interest to stay. To stay through the first season of the new stadium. He's got an ownership stake in this whole thing. MLS has a stake in him. They want him to stay. There's every reason why he would re up for one more season and christen the new stadium. I don't see him playing in Europe preparatory to the next World Cup. But he's still at that stage like LeBron we were just talking about. He's still at that stage where he can do whatever he wants. And his brilliance. You're right. We don't talk about Messi enough. His brilliance on this second goal. It's astounding.
Sports Analyst 1
He took on six suits.
Sports Analyst 2
It's just absolutely incredible. The speed he has in short bursts at his age is beyond remarkable. It's incredible.
Sports Analyst 1
It was a brilliant goal there. And not unlike LeBron James. There is a narrative out there. There have been quotes once he had the heartbreaking decision. Not entirely his. The financial situation surrounding Barcelona Barcelona helped nudge him towards psg. Is the prevailing thought among Seth Ambassador is that he will come back one day and put a bow on his career over at Barcelona. The dream is that he closes his career. There's also a prevailing theory that he ends his career in Argentina for his boyhood club. Does that keep him inform enough for the World Cup? I don't know. Does he try something brand new? Saudi is going to be offering him more more money than you can imagine. However they did that the last time and he didn't really entertain that at all. So I am curious Inter Miami really doesn't know what he's going to do in terms of that off season in the mls December to June. How are you going to stay sharp? You're going to play some international fixtures with Argentina. Is that enough? Do you want to say sharper? Do you want to say inform? Is rest the way to go? I don't think he's fully decided on what approach to he has during that few months time in the lead up to the World Cup. I do know that Inter Miami feels like they have a very aggressive, very good offer in front of him. They feel good about where things are at. If you want some other signs his friends have extended with the club down here. Jordi Ablo most recently there are a lot of signs along with what you said, the ownership stake and the new stadium opening that would suggest he is going to be with Inter Miami for at least one more season. However, there is the chance that there could be a pit stop along the way.
Sports Analyst 2
The one thing I would rule out is the Saudi option. He's already turned that down once and moreover, I think if he takes that, he's seen as following his arch rival, nemesis Ronaldo, who's done the Saudi thing and is still doing it, surprisingly enough. So I think there's a, for me, there's a strong bet that he's going to play one more season and christen that new stadium in his vested interest. And I also wonder if the world, the World cup is as much a priority as it was last time when he, when he won. He's won that now, so I don't know that that's his priority in the way that it used to be.
Sports Analyst 1
Look, he doesn't have the monkey on his back the way that it was before, but it will be in all likelihood his final World Cup. I can't imagine not being his final one. They are reigning champions. It's a World cup that is in the Americas. If you've seen from this club World cup, especially with how the Brazilian sides have competed in there, it's advantageous to a team from South America. I think he's going to go all out in trying to win that. Argentina still a very good team, but I'm curious to know what he does. A lot of miles on that body. A lot of cup competitions, a lot of heat. He's been playing in here. The MLS season, they got a league's cup coming up. Brutal congestion with those fixtures. Maybe he just wants to take time off.
Sports Analyst 2
He earns whatever he wants, including the time off. You know that he's going to be ready for the World cup no matter what he does after the MLS season. And to your point, I think there is a good likelihood that after one more season with Inter Miami, he has what probably will be seen as a ceremonial final season back home in Barcelona.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Postgame Show: Ain't No Changin' It with Za'Darius Smith
Release Date: July 8, 2025
In the July 8, 2025 episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve deep into the latest developments in the soccer world, with a particular focus on the Club World Cup upsets, domestic soccer dynamics, and the future of superstar Leo Messi at Inter Miami. The conversation offers insightful analysis, engaging discussions, and expert opinions, making it a must-listen for soccer enthusiasts and general sports fans alike.
The episode kicks off with a discussion about the unexpected outcomes in the Club World Cup.
Sports Analyst 1 highlights, "Precious little conversation about the club World cup we had an amazing upset with Al Hilal upsetting Manchester City" (00:28). He further praises the impressive performances of Brazilian clubs, noting one semifinal where Fluminense faces Chelsea and another featuring Real Madrid vs. PSG. This section underscores the unpredictability and competitive spirit of international club tournaments.
Transitioning to domestic soccer, the hosts examine the current state of the Gold Cup and its implications for the U.S. national team.
Sports Analyst 1 comments on the U.S. team's performance: "There are signs of encouragement against a much better Mexican team. Remember, not the A plus side or best available side that the United States could have sent out there" (00:28). This observation suggests that despite not fielding their strongest lineup, the U.S. team shows promise under coach Pochettino's vision.
The discussion touches upon the potential growth and future strategies for the U.S. national team, emphasizing the foundational work being laid for upcoming international competitions.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Leo Messi's current status and future prospects at Inter Miami.
Sports Analyst 1 asserts, "Leo Messi is by far the biggest superstar we've ever had play locally" (00:28), emphasizing Messi's unparalleled influence on the local soccer scene. Highlighting Messi's recent performance, he notes, "He had arguably his most impressive goal as a member of Inter Miami. There have been the long distance free kick. Goals have been a thing of beauty, but in terms of actual skill, dribbling through traffic the way that he did against Montreal was unbelievable" (00:28).
As Messi approaches the end of his current contract in December, the analysts ponder his next move. Sports Analyst 1 poses critical questions about whether Messi will:
The conversation delves into the intricate details surrounding Messi's potential decisions.
Sports Analyst 2 provides clarity: "He has a vested interest to stay. To stay through the first season of the new stadium. He's got an ownership stake in this whole thing. MLS has a stake in him. They want him to stay" (02:40). This statement underscores the mutual benefits for both Messi and Inter Miami in maintaining their partnership, especially with the new stadium's opening in view.
The analysts discuss the likelihood of Messi re-signing for another season to "christen" the new stadium, suggesting a strong inclination for him to remain with the club at least in the short term.
As the conversation progresses, the focus shifts to Messi's preparations for the World Cup and how his club commitments might align with his international duties.
Sports Analyst 1 speculates, "Does he take the opportunity to say let me have the best of both worlds or does he leave entirely?" (00:28), pondering whether Messi seeks to balance his club responsibilities with his role in the Argentine national team.
Sports Analyst 2 counters, "I don't think he leaves entirely. He has a vested interest to stay. To stay through the first season of the new stadium. He's got an ownership stake in this whole thing" (02:40), reinforcing the idea that a complete departure is unlikely.
The discussion also touches on Messi's physical demands, "A lot of miles on that body. A lot of cup competitions, a lot of heat. He's been playing in here. The MLS season, they got a league's cup coming up. Brutal congestion with those fixtures. Maybe he just wants to take time off" (05:02), highlighting the challenges of maintaining peak performance levels.
Wrapping up the discussion, the analysts weigh in on the broader implications of Messi's decisions.
Sports Analyst 1 concludes, "He doesn't have the monkey on his back the way that it was before, but it will be in all likelihood his final World Cup. I can't imagine not being his final one. They are reigning champions. It's a World cup that is in the Americas. If you've seen from this club World Cup, especially with how the Brazilian sides have competed in there, it's advantageous to a team from South America" (05:39). This sentiment underscores the significance of the upcoming World Cup for Messi and Argentina, potentially influencing his club choices.
Sports Analyst 2 adds, "I think there's a strong bet that he's going to play one more season and christen that new stadium in his vested interest. And I also wonder if the world, the World cup is as much a priority as it was last time when he, when he won. He's won that now, so I don't know that that's his priority in the way that it used to be" (05:02). This perspective suggests that while the World Cup remains important, Messi's priorities may have evolved with his illustrious career.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive examination of the current state of international and domestic soccer, with a spotlight on the enigmatic Leo Messi. Through expert analysis and engaging dialogue, listeners gain valuable insights into Messi's potential career trajectory, the strategic considerations of Inter Miami, and the broader implications for the soccer world as the next World Cup approaches.
For those seeking an in-depth understanding of these topics without listening to the full episode, this summary encapsulates the essence of the discussion, complete with key quotes and timestamps for reference.