Postgame Show: Billy, I Love You (feat. JuJu Gotti)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Postgame Show: "Billy, I Love You" (feat. JuJu Gotti)

Date: October 16, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Billy, Chris, Mike, Jeremy, Cody
Featured Guests: JuJu Gotti, Jane Levy

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Postgame Show features a lively mix of sports betting banter, NBA and NFL commentary, affectionate shoutouts, and an extended baseball trivia and analysis segment. JuJu Gotti joins in with signature humor and warmth, offering betting picks (“Thursday Thunder”) and heartfelt words for Billy. The show shifts seamlessly from irreverent pop-culture takes to a genuinely insightful baseball roundtable—highlighted by an expert interview with author and baseball historian Jane Levy, focusing on the MLB playoffs, pitching, and generational shifts in the game.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

Thursday Thunder with JuJu Gotti (01:01–02:42)

• JuJu presents his "Thursday Thunder" football picks:
  • Tee Higgins: Over 5 reception yards in the first quarter and over 3 catches for the game
  • Noah Fant: Over 3.5 catches (mentioning the absence of Mike Gesicki and Drew Sample)
  • Jamar Chase: Over 6 catches from Joe Flacco
  • Confidence in the "two out of three" parlay, but this week he goes for a "four piece."
• Memorable Quote:
  • Juju (01:39): “First quarter, T. Higgins, lock it in... Jamar Chase for over six catches from Joe Flacco tonight. Lock it in.”

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Paul Pierce's LeBron Comments & NBA Talk (02:42–04:19)

• Discussion:

  • Recap of Paul Pierce's appearance on Club Shay Shay, claiming if he was younger, LeBron wouldn’t have any NBA titles.
  • Immediate pushback, laughter, and playful banter about hypotheticals in sports.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Mike (03:22): “It made no sense ’cause he had a lot of his career without LeBron.”
  • Billy (03:30): “We could play this game forever... If [the Celtics] don’t get Kevin Garnett, you don’t win either.”

• Paul Pierce as an Entertaining Figure:

  • Panel admires "post-retirement Paul Pierce" for being entertainingly offbeat.
  • Juju (03:50): “If Pat McAfee didn’t think of having Aaron Rodgers and stuff on, I would have did that. So I feel Paul Pierce.”

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Tua Tagovailoa & “Cringe AF” Moments (04:19–04:49)

• Tua's Unlikability Factor:
  • Billy and JuJu agree Tua’s “Show Me The Money” moment was his most embarrassing and contributed to his "unlikable" status.
  • Billy (04:37): “Cringe af. Right, JuJu?”
  • Juju: “Totally agree. That was the most embarrassing thing he’s ever done.”

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JuJu’s Love for Billy & Polls Update (04:49–07:12)

• JuJu’s heartfelt appreciation:
  • Juju (04:55–05:34): “Billy, I love you so much, bro... When I first got to this company, I was... fresh out the streets. You helped me understand a lot... Talked to me for hours on the phone... I always appreciate you.”
• Audience Poll Results:
  • Two Monday Night Football Games: 67% say no
  • Scoring Baseball vs. Having Sex: 63% say "person who has sex" is cooler; Jeremy riffs on cross-over appeal.
  • Is Max Scherzer as crazy as his eyes look? 90% say yes
  • Was the Pope talking trash? 96% say yes
  • Closing banter:
    • Billy (07:06): “That Pope was spitting. Thanks, JuJu.”

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The “Pitch Clock” Baseball Segment (07:13–23:58)

Baseball MVP Trivia Game (08:29–16:49)

• Format: Guess World Series MVPs from 2009–2024; Cody vs. Jeremy, moderated by Mike.
• Stakes & Banter:
  • Bragging about last week’s performance, superstitious clothing choices, and mutual heckling.
  • Difficulties recalling certain years, especially when matching memorable player performances with exact series.
• Memorable Moments:
  • Jeremy (13:34): “Pressure is okay... Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege.”
  • Jane Levy: Enters as "our ALCS and NLCS expert," quickly bringing gravitas and humor.

Interview with Jane Levy—MLB Playoffs Analysis (11:37–23:58)

• 2025 ALCS Focus:
  • Blue Jays’ bats awaken vs. Mariners; Seattle's struggles at home may be tension, not talent.
  • Jane Levy (11:37): “The Jays, to have looked so bad at home and then flip the script... makes you wonder whether these teams... are a little tight.”
  • Discussion of Max Scherzer pitching for Blue Jays after a long layoff at age 41—“a very strange choice in my view.”
• Outlook for Mariners:
  • Jane predicts more poise from Mariners, invokes Billie Jean King’s maxim on pressure.
  • Jane (13:34): “Pressure is what professional athletes... should thrive on.”
• Dodgers’ Pitching Dominance and Historic Parallel:
  • Levelling up modern Dodgers pitching to 1963 standards; complete games and throwback efficiency.
  • Jane (18:20): “It’s like being back in 1963... the game people used to like to see.”
  • Dodgers used 48 pitchers in 2025 (!); contrast with historic reliance on durables.
  • The challenge of managing Shohei Ohtani:
    • Health, workload, dual-role issues, and impact of two Tommy John surgeries.
    • Jane (22:11): “He’s pedestrian at the plate in games that he pitches... If I were Shohei Ohtani, I’m not sure I’d be willing to pitch for the Los Angeles Dodgers.”
  • Discussion: Is it good for baseball to have a “giant” like LA, or better to see underdogs (Mariners or Brewers) break through?
    • Jeremy (20:49): “It’s always fun when there’s a giant that can be toppled…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• JuJu Gotti’s Heartfelt Shoutout:
  • (04:55) "I love you so much, bro... When I first got to this company... you helped me understand a lot... talked to me for hours on the phone... I always appreciate you."
• On Paul Pierce’s LeBron Claim:
  • Mike (03:22): “It made no sense ’cause he had a lot of his career without LeBron.”
• Baseball Nostalgia with Jane Levy:
  • Jane (18:20): “It’s like being back in 1963. It’s the game that people used to like to see.”
  • Jane (19:08): “Dodgers used 48 pitchers during the 2025 season... The Mets were 47.”
• On Shohei Ohtani’s Two-Way Struggles:
  • Jane (22:11): “He’s pedestrian at the plate in games that he pitches, and you can’t help but wonder... If I were Shohei Ohtani, I’m not sure I’d be willing to pitch for the Dodgers.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• JuJu’s "Thursday Thunder" Picks: 01:01–02:42
• Paul Pierce/LeBron Hot Take & Panel Reactions: 02:42–04:19
• Tua Tagovailoa "Cringe AF" Moment: 04:19–04:49
• JuJu's Love for Billy: 04:49–05:34
• Audience Poll Results: 05:36–07:12
• Pitch Clock Baseball MVP Trivia: 08:29–16:49
• Jane Levy MLB Analysis: 11:37–23:58
• Dodgers, Pitching, and Ohtani Discussion: 18:20–23:18

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Conclusion & Tone

This episode is a classic blend of irreverent sports commentary, heartfelt show camaraderie, and unexpected depth—especially in the detailed, historian-led baseball segment. The show retains its trademark wit and "jaded-fan" edge, balanced by moments of real affection (JuJu’s tribute to Billy) and expert insight (Jane Levy). With baseball’s changing traditions, quirky NBA hypotheticals, and good-hearted ribbing throughout, it’s a full buffet for fans of the Le Batard & Stugotz brand.

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For more from the show, check out Jane Levy’s new book, "Make Me Commissioner: I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It," and keep tuning in for more postgame hilarity and analysis!

Transcript

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[Chris]

We've got pitch clock coming up here. We've also got some juju Gotti coming up here. But we've got to do Thursday Thunder here and we've got to do it quickly and we've got to win this week. It's time to start winning people some money. Let's win people some money. Juju is I still don't think that in all the time that juju has been doing this, maybe I'm wrong. If he has ever gotten zero right, I don't think one right is very rare. But two right out of three, that's his wheelhouse. So just selectively, if you don't want to bet them together, bet them individually. But together is the big payout. Give us the Thursday Thunder this week, juju.

[Juju]

Yes, sir. Since I'm so successful at those two out of threes this week, I'm going with a four piece, baby. First of all, I'm going with T. Higgins for over five reception yards in the first quarter. First quarter, T. Higgins, lock it in. Secondly, I'm sticking with T. Higgins and I'm going with him for over three catches tonight. Scooby Snacks. Scooby Snacks. Joe Flacco in the building. Un I see you next leg. I'm going with my brother, Noah Fant. You know Mike Gasicki. He's out. He's on the ir. And that tight end Drew Sample isn't the same as tossing the pill to Noah Fant. Over 3.5 catches tonight for my brother. And lastly, but not leastly, Jamar Chase for over six catches from Joe Flacco tonight. Lock it in.

[Billy]

Excellent job, Juju. Juju, I got to ask you have you seen Paul Pierce's recent comments on Club Sh.

[Mike]

Shay?

[Billy]

Have you seen what he said about LeBron?

[Juju]

Yes, sir. And I wanted to. I wanted to understand or know what you guys feel about it. Mike is Mike for sure, but you as well. Zaz, what do you say? This is.

[Jeremy]

This was.

[Juju]

Hey, that's my Pierce's quote.

[Billy]

Yeah, so.

[Jeremy]

So.

[Billy]

So, I mean, just to. To shorten it for everyone listening who doesn't know. He went on Club Shay Shay, and he said that if he were younger, all of those years that LeBron was sunning him with the Miami Heat, if he were younger, LeBron would have no rings.

[Mike]

It made no sense. It made no sense because he had.

[Jeremy]

A lot of his career without LeBron.

[Juju]

To even worry about.

[Mike]

And he didn't do much when in there.

[Billy]

I mean, we could play this game forever. Like, I could then just come back and say, yeah, you know, if Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge weren't good friends and corroborated to send Kevin Garnett to the Celtics like you wouldn't want, like, we could do this forever.

[Jeremy]

I kind of love Paul Pierce.

[Mike]

I think, like, post retirement Paul Pierce, like, he. He just seems kind of crazy and like a good time.

[Juju]

Yeah, I believe it also. Yeah, if Pat McAfee didn't think of having Aaron Rodgers and stuff on I. I would have did that. So I feel Paul Pierce.

[Billy]

It's ridiculous, I guess. I guess it had been a little while since Paul Pierce said something that only he believes. So, you know, that's.

[Mike]

No, he fell asleep last week, if you remember correctly.

[Billy]

Oh, that's right. That's right. Just in the middle. Yeah, Yeah, I love that one. It's the middle of traffic. You know what it's like to be stuck in traffic for 45 minutes and no, Paul, tell me that's never happened to anybody.

[Juju]

Yeah, I agree with you also, too. Not to change the subject too quick, but when you said tua is potentially becoming unlikable and you pointed back to the show me the money. Oh, my. I forgot all about that, bro. That was the most embarrassing thing he's ever done. So I agree with his ass.

[Billy]

Cringe af. Right, Juju, Cringe af.

[Jeremy]

Cringe as you saying. Cringe af. Come on. There we go.

[Cody]

Now you're back.

[Billy]

Juju, you got some polls for us to update. What do we got here?

[Juju]

Yes, sir. Also, too. Billy, I love you. Before we get to the post. Billy, I love you so much, bro. Like, people don't understand you. A great guy like you, hilarious on the show and you be playing your role. But when I first got to this company, I was, you know, I mean, I'm fresh out the streets, so I don't understand a lot of what's going on. You feel me? And he helped me understand a lot of what was going on. Took the time, talked to me for hours on the phone, like, bro, we grown folks and people don't use the phone no more. My boy Billy took a time out his life, two kids to talk to me. You feel me? So I always appreciate you. I always appreciate the time we spent together. And I love you, brother.

[Jeremy]

Thank you, Juju. Love you.

[Juju]

Yes, sir. Do you like it when there are two Monday Night Football games?

[Cody]

I'm in on this.

[Juju]

67% of the audience says, no, they do not.

[Cody]

People are just looking for things to complain about.

[Chris]

I don't understand.

[Billy]

You're telling me American General. You're telling me a Monday Night Football game will end and It'll end at 10pm Eastern time, also known as Lord's time zone. The game will end on Monday and you'll be like, damn, I wish there wasn't another game on right now.

[Cody]

I like it when it's staggered by an hour. I don't love the 7 10.

[Billy]

I like.

[Cody]

I like the 7 and 8 15. That's where it's at.

[Billy]

I like that better.

[Jeremy]

Yep.

[Juju]

I kind of like the 7 10. It's like, give me something to stay up for. It's like basketball season. I'm used to staying up so late because LeBron, them, they don't come on to ten, a thousand Eastern time. So I'm used to staying up late. I kind of like it neither here nor there. Who is cooler, a person who scores baseball games or a person who has sex?

[Cody]

Oh, big.

[Jeremy]

This is big.

[Juju]

63% of the audience says a person who has sex.

[Jeremy]

What they don't know is that if you do the first, you do the second more than if you don't do the first.

[Juju]

Hello. Is Max Scherzer as crazy as his eyes look? 90% of the audience says, yes, he is. And the last poll, was the Pope talking trash? 96% of the audience says, yes, he was. And those are your poles.

[Billy]

That Pope was spitting. Thanks, Juju.

[Juju]

Thank you.

[Jeremy]

Pitch Clock next.

[Juju]

Yes, sir.

[Billy]

Don Lebatard, can I tell you something? I don't know, maybe like a month ago, and I decided to watch Pitch Clock and I told Jeremy Stugats, this is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levatar show with.

[Cody]

The Stugach I've decided that since I did so well last week, I'm not gonna change and I'm gonna wear the same clothes this week. What's your excuse?

[Jeremy]

I've been in the lab studying all baseball statistics for a week straight. I haven't changed and I'm ready to win. Maybe. I don't know. I don't feel any confidence in this anymore, buddy. Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch, a two part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. So you already. Hi, everybody.

[Cody]

Yeah, I did.

[Jeremy]

Oh, I did that.

[Cody]

Oh, that's right. I'm supposed to do that here. I did. In the cold open.

[Jeremy]

You did.

[Cody]

Don't tell me when to. Hi, everybody.

[Jeremy]

It's the playoffs. We're doing the Pitch Clock and we are back for another week. We will have our baseball analyst with us momentarily to dive into everything that's going on. Ethan, what is our game for today?

[Mike]

So in front of you, there's a sheet of logos. Those are the World Series champions every year since 2009. You are going to tell me the World Series MVP for each of these seasons. Because three strikes and you're out. And there are teams with multiple on here. You have to get the year right. You cannot just throw out a name and hope they're on this list. You have to point me to the dog.

[Cody]

2024. Going back to the Yankees at the.

[Mike]

Bottom right would be in 2009. Okay, correct. Last week Cody won, so he is going to have the honor this week.

[Cody]

He hit a big. He hit a big grand slam. I'm gonna go. Freddie Freeman, 2024.

[Mike]

That is correct. Freddie Freeman was last year's.

[Jeremy]

I knew you would.

[Mike]

I knew you and knew three big home runs. I believe in that series. Of course, most famously, the grand slam off of Nestor Cortez.

[Jeremy]

Okay, okay, I'm gonna go with. Here's a fun one. I'm gonna go with 3, 2, 20, 21. Atlanta Braves. Jorge Solaire.

[Mike]

That is correct. We all remember that big home run he hit in Houston.

[Jeremy]

We all remember it, right?

[Mike]

We all remember it, right, Cody?

[Jeremy]

Damn.

[Cody]

That's where I was trying.

[Jeremy]

I was trying to, like, figure out where. Where are the ones that Chris definitely knows. But I. I think I just got to get myself on the board on these. So. So one.

[Mike]

One after one.

[Jeremy]

Oh, boy. All right.

[Jane Levy]

Dodgers, 2020.

[Jeremy]

Mookie Bo bets.

[Mike]

That is incorrect. And I'm not going to give you the right answer if Jeremy Wants to take that one.

[Jeremy]

He can. So thank you.

[Mike]

Cody has the first strike.

[Cody]

Not going to be good for Chris.

[Jeremy]

But he was there. Oh, God. Okay. There's, like one that I know for sure, but I don't know which year.

[Mike]

I'm intrigued by.

[Jeremy]

You know what you're thinking? Oh, my God.

[Cody]

I just thought, I know one.

[Jeremy]

I like one. Well, here. I'm just gonna go here. 23. It's. It's Corey Seeger with the Rangers, correct?

[Mike]

That is correct. Yes. Corey Seeger had a great series for the Texas Rangers as they defeated the Arizona Diamondbacks. That was a fun World Series.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, man, that was a great World Series. Our ALCS and NLCS expert is with us now, and it's. It's my new best friend and the author of Make Me Commissioner. I Know what's Wrong with Baseball and how to Fix It. You can also check out her big piece coming out in the New York Times right before the World Series. Jane Levy back with us on the pitch clock. Jane, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today.

[Jane Levy]

For you, boy toy, anything.

[Jeremy]

All right, well, let's. Let's dive right into the ALCS Last night. It's the Mariners and the Blue Jays. And those Jays bats finally looked like the Jays bats we saw against the Yankees. A huge third inning breaks the game open. They pile on five homers in Seattle, which is like the toughest place to hit home runs. So, Jane, what changed last night in. In either in terms of the Blue Jays offensive approach or the Mariners pitching staff's execution that really flipped the script in this one?

[Jane Levy]

The Jays, to have looked so bad at home and then flip the script and have the Mariners look so bad at home, it makes you wonder whether these teams that haven't had playoff games, you know, to really talk about for a long time, you know, we're a little tight, and sometimes getting away from home is a really good thing. I doubt that the Mariners will be as brain cramped tonight as they were. I mean, they got Castillo going and he doesn't. He seems. What's the opposite of flappable? Unflappable.

[Jeremy]

Unflappable.

[Jane Levy]

He seems unflappable. So, you know, and strangely, unless it's changing, though I've been checking this morning, the Blue Jays have decided to go with Max Scherzer, Wiley Vet. They're now calling him the Wily Vet, as opposed to the future hall of Famer. You know, in terms of grit and experience, you can't do better than Mad Max. But Mad Max hasn't pitched since September 24, and, you know, he's 41. You know, maybe they're not expecting much more than a couple of. Maybe they're going to treat him like an opener for all we know. But it's. It's a very strange choice in my view. Well, I mean, Chris Bassett's available. Why not Chris Bassett?

[Jeremy]

It's fascinating to see Scherzer take the hill and. And I think you're right that experience is paramount here. When you're looking at a moment like this, it's probably one time through the order and get into that bullpen or even a piggyback situation where you have Scherzer go early and you have Bassett go through the order from there. So they have to game plan. But now that the Blue Jays did get this one game and we saw those bats wake up, what should we expect here for the rest of this series? Like, all of a sudden, this goes from a foregone conclusion to some real pressure on the Mariners at home in game four.

[Jane Levy]

Well, pressure's okay. You know, pressure is what professional athletes and even some amateurs, if there are such things anymore, that's what they should thrive on. You know, wasn't Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege and, you know, if they can't do it, then so be it. They can't do it. But, you know, I think they'll be more relaxed tonight. And remember, they have two more games at home. It's not one. They have two more chances, you know, to end this at home. And you know, I was really rooting for a Mariners brewers series just to be able to see what the network television people did.

[Juju]

This.

[Cody]

I don't even want to say what team it is because I feel like if I make get you thinking about it, you're going to think of it too.

[Mike]

I think. I think I'm on to what you're thinking here.

[Jeremy]

Coach, there's a question.

[Cody]

Can I just say a last name?

[Jeremy]

Can you say a lot?

[Cody]

I know his position, I know his team, I know his last name. I think I just. The first name is like. It begins with an A, I think.

[Jeremy]

Oh, I know who you're thinking about.

[Cody]

Speaking of the 2011 cardinal.

[Jeremy]

Oh, I already third baseman. So that's the one that. What you're thinking about is what I.

[Billy]

No, hold on.

[Jeremy]

No reaction.

[Mike]

You can't get his name.

[Jeremy]

No reaction from you. I know who you're thinking about and I just had the same thought process that you did, mind you, while you. While you go ahead and let yourself think. I Am going to go through. For the. For the audio audience. I'll go through each year here since we haven't yet. So we obviously got the 24 Dodgers, 23 Rangers. For those of you who don't remember, in 2022, it's the Houston Astros 21. It's the Braves. 2020 was the Dodgers. 19 is the Washington Nationals. 8. 15 Red Sox 17 Houston Astros. That's a very famous team. 16 the Chicago Cubs, another very famous team. 15, the Royals 14 the Giants 13 the Red Sox 12, the Giants 11, the Cardinals 10, the Giants. And 2009 was the New York Yankees.

[Cody]

2019 Nationals. Trey Turner.

[Jeremy]

No.

[Mike]

He did have a great postseason, but he was not the World Series MVP that year. So that is two strikes for Cody.

[Jeremy]

That's two strikes. Yeah.

[Cody]

I got the Dodger, I guess. Mookie Bets.

[Jeremy]

Oh, you.

[Cody]

You don't know. Like you don't know who that. That Cardinal is.

[Jeremy]

I know who you're thinking of. It's not him, but I don't know. So here's.

[Mike]

I don't know if you have the right name.

[Cody]

I know for sure. Like their third baseman hit a bunch of home runs.

[Jane Levy]

Like they.

[Jeremy]

No. So I know who it is, but I'm trying.

[Cody]

100 he was the MVP.

[Jeremy]

I'm helping you. I mean. 100. Okay. I don't have any strikes yet. Right?

[Mike]

You are not on the board with any strikes.

[Jeremy]

2011 cardinals.

[Cody]

David Freeze.

[Jeremy]

It's David. Yes. So the reason I wasn't sure. No, you didn't. The reason I wasn't sure about David Freeze was because I couldn't remember. Did the dominance and I helped start.

[Cody]

Like a thousand percent.

[Jeremy]

Did the dominance start? No. I was willing to go help me on one. That was a willingness to get a straight on.

[Jane Levy]

Hold on.

[Mike]

I want to hear what Jeremy has to say.

[Jeremy]

My. What I wasn't totally sure of was was that dominance starting in the nlcs. Was that dominant starting in the nlcs. And thus, in turn, I think of him as the World Series mvp. But I now remember that big double off the wall that was over the head of Nelson Cruz.

[Mike]

Two strikes in the ninth inning.

[Jeremy]

Of.

[Mike]

The 2011 World Series, one of the greatest baseball games ever played. And then of course, he hit the walk off.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Game in. In game six. And then in game seven, they had to come back again. And I think he had another big hit again.

[Cody]

7.

[Jane Levy]

How many pitchers did the Los Angeles Dodgers use in the 1963 World Series?

[Jeremy]

Oh, my goodness. I don't want to go too low because that Defeats the purpose of the game. So I'll say seven, four. Oh my gosh. In the entire world.

[Jane Levy]

Paranowski relieved Johnny Padres and other. Other than that, it was complete games.

[Jeremy]

These are the names that, that we look for. And speaking of complete games, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, he just threw one for the Dodgers. Blake Snell went eight innings himself. It required two more pitchers and Trine and Roki Sasaki to finish that out. So we're already at four pitchers despite 17 combined innings from the starting pitching. But Jane, I mean, it's been all about that, that starting pitching. And as you just laid out, you're a historian of this game, particularly with Dodgers pitching, go by her Sandy Koufax book as well. Put into perspective how impressive this starting pitching has been for the Dodgers, particularly in a modern game where going that deep into the game is so rare.

[Jane Levy]

So it's like being back in 1963. It's the game that people used to like to see. It's the game that people expected from the Dodgers. And, you know, I hope it turns a whole generation of new baseball fans on to see what the game can be. When guys who are that good are allowed to find out how good they can be, they're preempted where, you know, in modern baseball. Okay, here's my next step for you. How many pitchers did the Dodgers use during total during the 2025 season?

[Jeremy]

Ooh, during this season. Because they dealt with a lot of injuries.

[Jane Levy]

No kidding.

[Jeremy]

I would say, gosh, I would say near 20.

[Jane Levy]

I'll try 48.

[Jeremy]

Shut up. 48.

[Jane Levy]

48. And the Mets were 47.

[Jeremy]

Good Lord. I mean, that just shows that for them to now be healthy, to have these guys ready to go. Dan's talked about it on the show for a while. It's one of the first teams he's seen that's sort of like, like in basketball or in football where it's like, hey, as long as you're healthy by the playoffs, it's all going to be okay. And that's what this Dodgers team has been like.

[Jane Levy]

I saw a game in Baltimore, I was talking with Dave Roberts before and giving him a hard time again about having how many times he's removed starters from no hitters and perfect games. And that night he allowed Yamamoto. Yamamoto to go back out. He was pitching a no hitter for the ninth inning. And so what happens? Jackson Holladay hits a wall scraper home run in Camden Yards and they lose the game. And certainly the no hitter. And people are like, oh, no, that's terrible. He shouldn't have let him go back out. No, it was the perfect thing to do. It's a glimpse of what the guy could do and what baseball can be when it's played the way it was meant to be played.

[Jeremy]

Absolutely.

[Jane Levy]

So he lost the game. Big deal. It was a great baseball moment, and I thought that was kind of a turning point.

[Jeremy]

Let's talk about tonight's game and moving forward in this series. If you're trying to be an optimist for the brewers fans watching this or just the. The baseball fans who maybe don't want to see the. The Giant payroll, LA Dodgers back in the World Series. Although I think that's what's good for baseball. If it's them against the Blue Jays or, or the Mariners.

[Jane Levy]

Why is that good for baseball?

[Jeremy]

I do think there's. It's always fun when there's a giant that can be toppled. I think that, that, that element in any sport is something that. That's fun to watch. Whether it was Big three Heat in. In basketball, when there's a giant that can be toppled, the Patriots or the Chiefs in football over the last 20 years, it's always intriguing to see if that upstart team can do it. The Mariners would be the best example. But let's talk about this. Where. What can the brewers do in. In tonight's game and. And potentially moving forward to get back into this series? Like, what has to happen and what would give you any sort of inkling that it's possible?

[Jane Levy]

Well, Glass now has a history of sort of disappearing in. In the moment.

[Jeremy]

The face that you made is basically what happens.

[Jane Levy]

Right.

[Cody]

And.

[Jane Levy]

And they have to be themselves. But, but look, you know, the other thing that, that the starting pitching. The Dodgers has masked what's wrong with Otani?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, he'll be there. He'll theoretically be there for game four.

[Jane Levy]

Yeah. But he's not hitting right.

[Jeremy]

Oh, he's been hitting at all. He's been a disaster offensively.

[Jane Levy]

And, you know, I can't help but wonder. I know it's not a popular thing to say, but I looked at stats the other day yesterday of how he does in games when he pitches, and it's not good.

[Jeremy]

No.

[Jane Levy]

And. And it's really lousy. And, you know, he. Look, he's pedestrian at the plate in games that he pitches, and you can't help but wonder, even though they have, you know, been careful in how many innings they've allowed him to go. And that's another question. If it's a If it's a, you know, a game where they can win it all, are they going to be careful in how much they let him pitch? You know, is he going to have a pitch limit? Is he going to have an innings limit? If I were Shohei Ohtani, I'm not sure I'd be willing to pitch for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

[Jeremy]

Wow.

[Jane Levy]

I mean, look, 48 pitchers.

[Jeremy]

Yep.

[Jane Levy]

48.

[Jeremy]

Yep.

[Jane Levy]

You know, and. And there is an argument that their lives would be easier. I mean, they have to build everything around his starts in terms of having people available to pick up the extra innings, which they certainly haven't had. And in terms of, you know, worrying about his offensive potential and his production. Not potential, you know, his production. And it's, you know, the man has had two Tommy John surgeries.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Jane Levy]

Not one of the official Tommy John and one Tommy John redux.

[Jeremy]

Right, right. Well, look, when. When we talk about this Dodgers team, it'll be whether or not Ohtani can wake up those bats, whether or not the Dodgers can get it done against a bullpen game. We'll see if. If sort of history here, which is just last night, repeats itself. And the road team continues to win all of these games in these series. Lots of great baseball coming up. Jane, you love it as much as anyone. Thank you so much for. For being back with us again. Everybody go check out her book. Make me commissioner. I know what's wr and how to fix it. Nothing wrong about baseball tonight. We're going to enjoy it together. Jane, thank you so much.

[Jane Levy]

A lot right about baseball.

[Jeremy]

There is a lot right about baseball. I can't wait to watch it. Thank you again for joining us. Here's how I'll help you.

[Cody]

I don't need your help. I got an answer.

[State Farm Advertiser]

All right.

[Cody]

2012 giants, Madison Bumgarner.

[Mike]

Oh, you're so close.

[Chris]

14 out.

[Mike]

Yes, he was. That was the year he came in. He pitched game five, and then he came in. Came in in game seven and pitched like, from the fifth inning.

[Cody]

It has to be the middle one.

[Jeremy]

It's so funny you do that, because what I.

[Jane Levy]

The.

[Jeremy]

What I was going to say to you is, there is a player where you're going to have a 33 chance of getting it right no matter what. Just pick.

[Cody]

That was going to be your help for me.

[Jeremy]

That was my help.

[Cody]

I mean, that was obvious.

[Mike]

Well, see, my help was.

[Jeremy]

You didn't help me.

[Juju]

I gave you the answer.

[Jeremy]

I had the answer. You can't handle the truth. I. You can't handle the truth.

[Chris]

That.

[Jeremy]

Can I go through with the rest and just see what I can get. Okay, so tell me 2010, since I. I clearly didn't get it. Is that posy? Oh, there's hit the big home run.

[Mike]

In Game 5 against Texas that gave them the lead. It was a. It was a nothing, nothing ball game. And he gave them the lead and. And they went on to win.

[Cody]

He won for the Yankees in 09.

[Mike]

Hideki Matsui was the World Series MVP.

[Jeremy]

That was one that I had sitting there. Alex Gordon for the Royals.

[Mike]

No, Salvi Perez.

[Jeremy]

Oh, he was. It was Salvi. I couldn't remember because I remember. I remember Alex Gordon.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Such a big deal because he had such a great postseason and he was the lifelong royal. I remember seeing Eric Osmer at Publix a few days after they won the World Series. And I'm a sore loser.

[Cody]

Do I have to sit here for this?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, okay.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. We're gonna talk this out. I actually thought that Zobrist was the World Series MVP because he was the World Series MVP the next year. And I could have sworn that he was a back to back World Series.

[Jeremy]

He was the one for the Cubs.

[Mike]

He of course had the big hit in game seven that delivered the lead in the 10.

[Cody]

Which one was Jose Altuve?

[Mike]

Jose Altuve has never won a World series.

[Jeremy]

Right. In 17.

[Mike]

It was Springer in 17 and then Alvarez in 2022. He was a rookie and he had an amazing postseason. Jeremy. So I'll go through the. I'll go through all of them for everybody.

[Jeremy]

It's not Soto, is it in 19?

[Mike]

No, it was Stephen Strasberg.

[Jeremy]

There's no world where Will Smith won it in 2020. Right.

[Cody]

Is that.

[Mike]

It was Corey Seeger also.

[Jeremy]

Seeger.

[Cody]

Right.

[Mike]

MVP. Steve Pierce won in 2018. As crazy as. That's moving on out of nowhere. Steve Pierce had a crazy postseason.

[Jeremy]

Maybe that's.

[Cody]

I don't even think.

[Jeremy]

Honestly, maybe that's why we didn't.

[Cody]

I don't even think Steve Pierce remembers that.

[Mike]

David ortiz won in 2013 and Pablo Sandoval, the Panda, of course, won in 2012. He had a three home run game in the first game of that World Series, I believe.

[Cody]

Good parade next week. I'm changing clothes.