Postgame Show: Jeremy Is a Fashist

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Postgame Show: Jeremy Is a Fashist
Release Date: August 12, 2025

From the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in lively discussions covering a spectrum of topics from sports to pop culture. In this episode, the focus shifts to Jeremy’s controversial take on various societal issues, earning him the nickname "Fashist." Below is a detailed summary capturing the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.

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Opening Banter: Whistling Shenanigans ([00:02] - [01:10])

The episode kicks off with a light-hearted exchange about whistling techniques. Mike and Stu attempt to follow Jeremy's suggestion on a new whistling method involving the letter "Q," leading to playful banter and laughter.

• Jeremy: "I was thinking of doing a shadow show where I would just whistle for you, and then you'd be like, oh, good whistling day." ([00:12])

Despite their efforts, the attempt at practicing the whistling trick falls flat, setting a humorous tone for the show.

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Jeremy's Top Five: An Unconventional List ([01:10] - [05:49])

Jeremy introduces his "Top Five" list of topics that he believes should be discussed on the show, despite their controversial nature and the likelihood that the other hosts might not support them. This segment becomes the focal point of the episode, delving into serious societal issues intertwined with pop culture references.

1. Decline in Gender Equality Beliefs Among Young Men ([02:00] - [02:16])

Chris presents alarming data from Monitoring the Future, highlighting a significant decrease in the number of young men aged 8th to 10th grade who believe in gender equality and equal pay since 2018.

• Chris: "Per Monitoring the Future's data, the amount of young men between 8th grade and 10th grade believing in gender equality and equal pay have plummeted since 2018." ([02:00])

This statistic raises concerns about the shifting attitudes toward gender roles among the younger generation.

2. Clash of Pop Culture Icons: Katy Perry vs. Lady Gaga ([02:16] - [02:42])

Jeremy reminisces about the simultaneous release of Katy Perry's "Roar" and Lady Gaga's "Applause" a dozen years prior, which also inspired a "Glee" episode titled "Katie or Gaga?" The discussion highlights how both songs quickly became dated.

• Jeremy: "Both songs, pretty quick turn around, didn't age very well." ([02:28])

This segment underscores the fleeting nature of pop culture phenomena.

3. Impact of Trump's Tax Bill on Wealth Distribution ([02:42] - [03:18])

Chris critiques former President Trump's tax legislation, citing OLI CBO research indicating that the bill exacerbated economic inequality by enriching the top 10% while leaving the bottom 20% poorer.

• Chris: "Trump's big beautiful bill shows the bottom 20% getting poorer. Not much change for most of America. And the top 10% getting meaningfully richer." ([02:44])

He labels it as the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in American history.

4. Demi Lovato and Jonas Brothers Reunion ([03:18] - [03:35])

Chris shares his excitement over Demi Lovato reuniting with the Jonas Brothers for a concert, praising their performance of classic hits.

• Chris: "Demi Lovato reuniting with the Jonas Brothers at a concert. Pretty exciting, right?" ([03:12])

Stu adds a personal touch by mentioning his recent viewing of "Camp Rock," connecting it to the nostalgia evoked by the concert.

5. Rising Fascism and Police Militarization ([03:35] - [04:56])

The discussion takes a more serious turn as Chris declares that fascism is making a comeback, evidenced by the militarization of the police in Washington D.C. He criticizes the use of such tactics to suppress political opposition.

• Chris: "Fascism's totally and completely back. They're militarizing the police department in D.C." ([03:41])

Stu attempts to challenge this assertion, prompting a brief exchange about the reality of fascist regimes and their policies.

• Jeremy: "We told you this was coming." ([03:43])

The conversation delves into the implications of these actions on American democracy and civil liberties.

6. Miscellaneous Pop Culture References ([04:56] - [05:49])

The hosts briefly touch upon various other topics, including:

• Culturistas Awards: Billy mentions the event's highlights, including Ben Platt's performance of a stripped-down version of Addison Rae's "Diet Pepsi," which has surged in streams.

  • Billy: "Ben Platt sang a beautiful stripped down version of Diet Pepsi by Addison Rae." ([05:06])

• VMAs Moving to CBS: Discussions about the MTV Video Music Awards transitioning to CBS, accompanied by a return to traditional music video programming on MTV.

  • Billy: "Did you guys, speaking of award shows, see the VMAs are gonna be on CBS this year?" ([05:19])

• High School Musical Reference: A light-hearted exchange on "High School Musical" versus "Camp Rock," highlighting the generational shifts in musical preferences.

  • Chris: "High School Musical. That's a great one." ([04:26])

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Engagement and Reactions ([05:49])

The segment concludes with expressions of excitement and anticipation for upcoming discussions, particularly highlighting the controversial nature of the topics Jeremy has introduced.

• Jeremy: "I'm so glad we got here." ([05:49])

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, Jeremy's provocative "Top Five" list serves as a catalyst for deep dives into pressing societal issues, interwoven with nostalgic and contemporary pop culture references. The hosts navigate through humor and serious commentary, offering listeners a multifaceted conversation that challenges conventional viewpoints while maintaining an engaging and entertaining atmosphere.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris on Trump's Tax Bill: "The largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in a single law in American history." ([02:44])

• Chris on Fascism: "Fascism's totally and completely back." ([03:41])

• Jeremy on Whistling: "I was thinking of doing a shadow show where I would just whistle for you..." ([00:12])

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This summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing insights into the hosts' perspectives and the dynamic interplay between humor and critical analysis.

Transcript

[Mike]

Mike. Good whistling day.

[Stu]

Yeah, the weather has been nice after the rain came in. The AC's been fixed. You're cooking right now. I'm gonna lay out.

[Jeremy]

I was thinking of doing a shadow show where I would just whistle for you, and then you'd be like, oh, good whistling day. And then we just.

[Mike]

You taught me how to whistle.

[Jeremy]

I did. What if you did? Hey, try doing. Okay. This is something else I learned online. So put your mouth in a whistling thing and. And then whisper the letter Q. But change sort of the pressures on your lips.

[Mike]

I did it.

[Stu]

No Q.

[Jeremy]

That was me.

[Mike]

No.

[Jeremy]

Everybody else lay out. You're saying.

[Mike]

Yeah, not a good whistle.

[Jeremy]

That's not a good one for you.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, it's a tricky way to do it. I mean.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it is.

[Stu]

That one's way tougher than the normal.

[Mike]

But you just whistle.

[Jeremy]

I mean, I. I mean, I think.

[Stu]

I think.

[Jeremy]

I think it only works for people who know how to whistle. So when you do it, you're just like, oh, wow.

[Stu]

I was forcing the whistle too. The Q thing didn't really work.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Okay. That wasn't terrible.

[Stu]

That's about as good as you can get from Sue.

[Mike]

Thank you. Yep. I am told Jeremy has a top five list of topics he'd like to bring up on this show, but no one would buy it.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's right. Just things I saw over the weekend where I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then I realized immediately that I shouldn't put it down as a topic because none of you would talk about it with me.

[Mike]

This show will do that to you. No doubt about it. So go ahead. Let's. Let's hear. Well, Izzy, have something?

[Jeremy]

No, I don't. I was just counting.

[Billy]

Does this exclude topics you've already brought up or. No?

[Chris]

Yeah, a little.

[Billy]

So you cross those off, and then you replace them with, like, olives or whatever.

[Mike]

Right.

[Chris]

Well, the other things I.

[Mike]

It's a fresh five, is what Billy is.

[Chris]

That was my best. Yeah, it is a fresh five. That was my best discretion on stuff I thought you might like, so. So you can only imagine how much you're not gonna like any of this.

[Stu]

Curious to see if you've learned.

[Chris]

Oli.

[Mike]

Right.

[Chris]

Per Monitoring the Future's data, the amount of young men between 8th grade and 10th grade believing in gender equality and equal pay have plummeted since 2018.

[Jeremy]

Give me that age group again.

[Chris]

O L I. 12 years ago this week, Roar by Katy Perry and Applause by Lady Gaga were released in the same week. Sparking the Glee Episode Katie or Gaga?

[Jeremy]

How did you imagine that conversation going?

[Chris]

Like this one. Number five, Was the Glee episode airing.

[Billy]

That week also or.

[Chris]

No, it was like, I think just a couple weeks later. They really just turned it around. Wow.

[Jeremy]

Both songs, pretty quick turn around, didn't age very well.

[Chris]

Big one.

[Jeremy]

Not really a competition there.

[Chris]

No, not at all. It's pretty crazy when you look back at it. Oh, another OLI CBO research shows that Trump's big beautiful bill shows the bottom 20% getting poorer. Not much change for most of America. And the top 10% getting meaningfully richer. The largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in a single law in American history. All right, number five, Demi Lovato reuniting with the Jonas Brothers at a concert. Pretty exciting, right?

[Stu]

I saw of it.

[Chris]

It was. It was pretty awesome. They played some old songs. This is real. This is me. This is pretty exciting.

[Stu]

I did watch Camp Rock the other day. Did you actually, yeah, it was on at the hotel.

[Chris]

That was one of the songs. Great movie they sang at the concert.

[Stu]

I'm more of like a descendant zombies guy now.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Stu]

But a tip of the hat to the old guard.

[Chris]

All right, I'll. I'll take that. That's as much engagement as I could have possibly hoped for. Number four, Supreme Court's going to take away gay marriage.

[Jeremy]

Hey, we kind of told you this was coming.

[Stu]

Told you guys. They're gonna take a look at it.

[Chris]

Yeah, they're gonna do it. Which, speaking of see what's what, Number three, fascism's totally and completely back. They're militarizing the police department in D.C. which, you know, that's what you do when you're a fascist regime is you militarize the police force and other areas and make them preach your ideals against your political opponents. I'm gonna be vulnerable right here. We've had months and months of me hearing that word. No clue what it means.

[Stu]

Yeah, that. That actually tracks. You'd be surprised. Stu and I had a lengthy conversation about this before the show.

[Chris]

Really?

[Stu]

No, no, not at all.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Mike]

Number two, Efron in Camp Rock.

[Chris]

No, that's High School.

[Stu]

High School Musical. That's the one that you like?

[Chris]

Yeah. High School Musical. That's a great one.

[Billy]

You gotta say back, Jack. And then there would have been more buy in. Was a thing on that one.

[Chris]

I would think so. Fascism is back, Jack. I would think someone who's a fascist.

[Stu]

Well, hold on.

[Chris]

Plays really good with fashion.

[Billy]

Hold on. Glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Because I was just gonna ask you. What do you think if we were to ask you, Chris Cody, what is fascism?

[Chris]

Oh, I just figured that's what I.

[Billy]

Would have got it.

[Chris]

You know, Jeremy, very fascisty.

[Billy]

Yeah, Jeremy's a fascist.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Chris]

Number two. The last Culturistas Awards, anybody?

[Billy]

Oh, I saw that was a thing.

[Chris]

It was really good.

[Billy]

Paige, the sober one, cool girl a year, right?

[Chris]

Yeah. Ben Platt sang a beautiful stripped down version of Diet Pepsi by Addison Rae that has now shot that song up the charts because everybody's streaming it. Beautiful. You should listen to the rendition.

[Billy]

Did you guys, speaking of award shows, see the VMAs are gonna be on CBS this year?

[Jeremy]

Really?

[Chris]

That makes sense.

[Billy]

Yeah, they keep just announcing VMAs on CBS. Yeah.

[Stu]

And part of the lead up is MTV goes to its original wall to wall music video programming. Two weeks of the lead up.

[Jeremy]

So. Chris, you just think every time you turn on CNN, they're talking about fashionistas.

[Chris]

Nah, I knew that. It didn't mean that. But I'm just like. I always hear the word like it's not good.

[Jeremy]

Doesn't sound good.

[Billy]

So it's bad fashion, Right?

[Chris]

Number one, baseball.

[Jeremy]

I'm so glad we got here.