Postgame Show: The Doritos Lie (feat. JuJu Gotti)

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Postgame Show: The Doritos Lie (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Date: October 23, 2025

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Overview of the Episode

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this lively postgame show features Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, JuJu Gotti, and the usual cast diving into NBA opening night madness, the confounding escalation in NBA scoring, regrettable show moments, NFL banter, gambling, and of course, the classic Le Batard debate: Red vs. Blue Doritos. The tone is zippy and irreverent, shifting rapidly from sports analysis to show inside jokes, topped off by a deadpan breakdown of FBI gambling operation codenames and memorable on-air polls.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Opening Night: "Scoring Doesn’t Mean the Same Anymore"

• Dan Le Batard (00:31): Laments that high-scoring NBA games no longer hold gravitas:

  “I'm old enough to remember when the 40 point game in basketball used to mean something... Now all of a sudden, first time in NBA history as four different players opening the season with 40 point game in the same year doesn't mean anything anymore.”

• Group Insight:
  • The pace of play is out of control; early quarters feel less consequential (Stugotz, 00:51).
  • Playoff-like fourth quarters occur within regular-season games (Mike Ryan, 01:19).

2. Show Self-Critique: What Could’ve Been Done Better

• Mike Ryan (02:04): Recaps missed topics and show "regrets," from persistent Dolphins complaints to omitting NBA details.
• Notable moments:
  • Only talking about Kevin Durant in a cross-sport legacy context (02:14).
  • Luka-centric MVP talk despite Wemby hype:
    • “It will be Wemby until the day he retires.” (Mike Ryan, 02:47)
  • Mall nostalgia and an inside joke about a “chair company” missed (03:29).
  • Flattering insult:
    • “Sucks. Was calling me the witty of Pablo supposed to be an insult? Like, damn. I was pretty flattered by that, actually.” (Mike Ryan, 03:00)

3. Thursday Thunder: JuJu Gotti’s Picks and Banter

• JuJu Gotti’s Hot Streak
  • Corrects Dan on last week’s success:

    “No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I went four, four, four, my brother.” (Juju, 04:05)

  • This week’s Thursday Thunder picks: (04:29–05:47)
    • Over 5.5 catches for Justin Jefferson
    • Over 3.5 catches for T.J. Hockenson (a “spooky” pick per Rachel Nichols, 05:10)
    • Over 4.5 catches for Orande Gadson—called “the biggest fantasy sensation right now”

4. FBI Gambling Investigations and the Power of Delivery

• Amused breakdown of FBI codenames (06:19):
  • “Operation Nothing But Bet” for sports betting
  • “Operation Royal Flush” for illegal poker
• Mocking the FBI’s try-hard press conference lines:
  • “Your winning streak has ended. Your luck has run out. And you can bet on that.” (Producer, 06:48–07:13)
  • Group critiques the “lack of gravitas” and suggests the agent should’ve made a finger-gun gesture for effect.

    “You gotta have more confidence.” (Juju, 07:13)
    “It sounded like Chris Cody at the end of a read where he’s just leaking confidence...” (Juju, 07:26)

5. Polls: Sports, Doritos, and Due Process

• Notable poll questions and reactions: (07:54 onward)
  • “Should Terry Rozier be arrested for his field goal percentage?”
    95% say yes. “No need for due process, just straight to jail.” (Juju, 08:12)
  • “Should betting on your team to win be legal for pro athletes?”
    69% say yes (08:19), with Rachel Nichols joking, “It’s incentive for my team to win. I’m trying to coach them.” (08:30)
  • “Are you self-conscious about eating alone?”
    73% say no (08:38).
  • Doritos discourse:
    • Tony notes “Dan, for like the 10th time, wanted red vs. blue Doritos put on the in show history.” (08:58)
    • Mike and Tony disagree—red versus blue loyalties (09:06–09:09).
  • Doritos Lie Callout:
    • JuJu accuses Rachel Nichols of previously saying she “doesn’t eat Doritos, only Fritos” (09:10)

      Rachel: “The human palette changes every seven years.” (09:37)

  • “Should Terry Rozier be afforded due process for his field goal percentage?”
    67% say no (09:48).

6. Lighthearted Momenst & Classic Banter

• Quick hit exchanges about uniforms, best coaching ever (“according to Zaslow”), and accidental word slips (“Did I say burrito?” Tony Reali, 10:15).
• Ongoing, performative mockery of show regulars and self-parody.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard, on NBA inflation: “I'm old enough to remember when the 40 point game in basketball used to mean something.” (00:31)
• JuJu Gotti, about his Thursday Thunder picks: “I went four, four, four, my brother.” (04:05)
• Mike Ryan, on Wemby-mania: “It will be Wemby until the day he retires.” (02:47)
• Juju Gotti, on FBI delivery: “You gotta have more confidence.” (07:13)
• Rachel Nichols, on taste evolution: “The human palette changes every seven years.” (09:37)
• Juju, as deadpan comedy: “It sounded like Chris Cody at The end of a read where he's just leaking confidence after he stumbled a couple of times.” (07:26)
• On due process for Terry Rozier: “No need for due process, just straight to jail.” (Juju, 08:12)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• NBA scoring explosion & meaning of 40-point games: 00:31–01:19
• Show self-critique & MVP talk: 02:04–03:15
• Thursday Thunder picks, JuJu’s hot streak: 04:05–05:47
• Gambling operations code names & mockery: 06:19–07:23
• Polls segment (NBA, betting, Doritos debate): 07:54–09:58
• Doritos Lie confrontation with Rachel Nichols: 09:10–09:37

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Episode Tone and Style

The episode is fast-paced, sarcastic, and self-referential, loaded with inside jokes. The banter stays playful, whether dissecting FBI pressers or roasting NBA trends. Signature Le Batard Show irreverence is constant, making for a breezy, personality-driven listen.

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

I'm old enough to remember when the 40 point game in basketball used to mean something. Now all of a sudden, first time in NBA histories as four different players opening the season with 40 point game in the same year doesn't mean anything anymore.

[Stugotz]

I'll be honest, I the game was moving too fast for me last night. I don't mean like, like I. I don't mean like I couldn't actually keep up. All the games are Heat magic, definitely Heat magic. And what I mean by that is just, I feel like the game, the things that are happening in front of you the first three quarters, it doesn't mean as much when it's moving that fast. It's like, all right, let's just wait till the fourth quarter where it slows down a little bit and the possessions mean something. I felt the game was too fast.

[Mike Ryan]

It's how it used to be when you would get to the playoffs, right? Like it was the pace between the regular season and the postseason. Now it's literally in game for the first, second and third quarter into the fourth quarter.

[Stugotz]

Like, I loved the fourth quarter of Heat Madness last night, but the first three quarters, like we're going to, we're.

[Dan Le Batard]

Going to be doing Thursday Thunder here in a second with juju. But I, I would imagine that most of the games went over last night, that there was just a ton of scoring everywhere and that they're going to readjust the totals in these games because it felt like all of the games were going way over point totals and that the scoring was totally insane. We're going to get to juju in a second, but before we do that, I just want Jeremy to give us all the things that we could have done better yesterday before juju gets to all the things we could have done better today.

[Mike Ryan]

Glad we waited until the post game for this. Oh, I We spoke about the truly pathetic Dolphins in like 12 different ways, including the second conversation we've had about whether or not Steven Ross is a good owner or a bad owner before we ever got to the debut Night of basketball, NBA on NBC. Number five. We only spoke about one single player from that in the first two hours of the show, and it was Kevin Durant. Only in comparison to Brad Marchon's legacy.

[Rachel Nichols]

It was a weird.

[Mike Ryan]

That was so weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. What was.

[Mike Ryan]

What were you guys doing? Number four. I can't believe he had Luka at the top of the MVP when WEMBY exists.

[Rachel Nichols]

Luka had. Luka had 43, 12 and 9. It's WEMBY of nobody I was with.

[Mike Ryan]

It was Wemby before the season. It was when the day the season started. It will be Wemby all season long, and it will be Wemby until the day he retires.

[Stugotz]

How could you be the NBA, NBA MVP when you have zero games played?

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly right.

[Stugotz]

That was one of Yama.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Tony Reali]

Number three.

[Mike Ryan]

Sucks. Was calling me the witty of Pablo supposed to be an insult? Like, damn. I was pretty flattered by that. Actually.

[Stugotz]

Luca was definitely the MVP after Tuesday night. That's indisputable.

[Tony Reali]

I think they're both annoying.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't find them annoying. Number two, I can't believe a me and ask Jess, like, when's the last time you've been to the mall? I love the mall. Mall's great. You ever just walk around the mall and get a little Wetzel's pretzels or Annie Ann's and just kind of. Just kind of stroll?

[Dan Le Batard]

You missed the joke, though. It was the chair company. They were doing an inside joke on the mall.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I mean, I. I get it, but it's still number one. Whoever choreographed that Basketball is Jack backjack video, you know, really talented, probably deserves a raise. And definitely very handsome.

[Dan Le Batard]

Undeserving. Number one, I regret bring. You know what?

[Producer/Caller]

We got a major penalty on Jeremy. Five minutes for being Jeremy.

[Stugotz]

Yep.

[Juju]

Going to get to Juju's Thursday Thunder. It cashed. Juju cashed a Thursday Thunder. He went three for three last week.

[Guest Caller]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I went four, four, four, my brother.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Juju]

You had that game. You were all over that Bengals Steelers game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do.

[Juju]

He's got a hot streak going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sorry. I am sorry. I've insulted you, Juju, by getting my facts wrong.

[Tony Reali]

That's right. It's Thursday Thunder. And it's presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Guest Caller]

Took a Tuga, Tuga, Tuga, Tuga, Tuga, Tuga, Tuga. Toot, toot. You know what? That is the Thursday Thunder winning tickets on the tracks right now. For your boy. I'mma go ahead. I'm going to stop out of talking and get straight to it tonight. I'm going with my brother Justin jetas for over 5.5 catches tonight from Carson Wentz part 2. I'm going with my other brother, TJ Hawkinson for over 3.5 catches from big ol Carson Wentz tonight.

[Rachel Nichols]

TJ Hawkinson has been so spooky lately. If Addison's come back and he's demanded a bunch of targets from that team that Hawkinson was getting, I'm a little spooked by that juju.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Guest Caller]

Guess what? Tis the season, baby. Next week and the last leg. I'm going with the biggest fantasy sensation right now. If you haven't added him to your tight end depth list, beat your friends right now and get them right now. I'm going with Orande Gadson for over 4.5 catches tonight. Lock it in.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like all of those, actually. I like a lot of throwing tonight. The Chargers gotta win that game, don't they?

[Rachel Nichols]

Like wearing the uniforms?

[Dan Le Batard]

They are. They've got the best coach in history, according to Zaslow.

[Stugotz]

Was that Yoda you just did.

[Mike Ryan]

At.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lebatard show is where it is. You vote on the polls. Roy, can you get me real quick the names that the FBI is giving their dual investigations? Practicing in a mirror, giving speeches. What are the names of these investigations?

[Mike Ryan]

All right. 40 sports betting operation. This is Operation Nothing But Bet.

[Dan Le Batard]

And for the illegal poker ring, Operation Royal Flush.

[Rachel Nichols]

That's a good one.

[Producer/Caller]

Your winning streak has ended.

[Juju]

At Lebatard show on the polls.

[Dan Le Batard]

Juju.

[Juju]

That guy was practicing those lines. He had three lines to deliver, and that whole press conference was just to get off these three lines.

[Producer/Caller]

Your winning streak has ended. Your luck has run out. And you can bet on that.

[Juju]

He kind of petered out at the end. He was a little scared.

[Tony Reali]

Inflection.

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I didn't like there.

[Tony Reali]

Play the.

[Rachel Nichols]

Play the inflection one more time.

[Producer/Caller]

You can bet on that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it like.

[Rachel Nichols]

It almost like he got a sentence from another, like, paragraph and like, put it in there.

[Stugotz]

You got to emphasize the. That at the end.

[Rachel Nichols]

On that.

[Dan Le Batard]

A top cop right there.

[Producer/Caller]

You can bet on that.

[Juju]

Yeah, on that. You gotta have more confidence.

[Rachel Nichols]

It's more gravitas. The moment is huge. You got to meet the moment. Bet on that.

[Juju]

That's right. Very well done, Tony. Yes. You got to point at a camera. You got to give an index.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah.

[Rachel Nichols]

Once you give the index finger, that shows strength.

[Juju]

Power finger. A finger gun. It sounded like Chris Cody at The end of a read where he's just leaking confidence after he stumbled a couple of times.

[Tony Reali]

That's better than when I try to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Say hi to guests at Lebitard show on.

[Juju]

On the poll questions.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do we have today?

[Juju]

Juju.

[Guest Caller]

I'm also willing to bet that that FBI agent, he was practicing that speech while watching Blazers wolves last night go down to the wire like, oh, another loss for my boy.

[Producer/Caller]

Your winning streak has ended.

[Guest Caller]

Should Terry Rozier be arrested for his field goal percentage? 95% of the audience says, yes, he should.

[Mike Ryan]

Damn it.

[Juju]

It's not even innocent until proven guilty. No need for due process, just straight to jail.

[Guest Caller]

Betting on your team to win be legal for professional athletes. 69 of the audience says, yes, it should.

[Rachel Nichols]

Thank you.

[Guest Caller]

Right.

[Yeti Commercial Announcer]

Nice.

[Rachel Nichols]

It's incentive for my team to win. I'm trying to coach them.

[Stugotz]

I'm trying to play games.

[Rachel Nichols]

You know, the money's not enough.

[Guest Caller]

Are you self conscious about eating in a restaurant alone? 73% of the audience says no, they are not.

[Stugotz]

Oh, good confidence.

[Guest Caller]

Right. Also auto bounds on me today, Coach. I missed the Rachel Nichols poll. It was something to do with nacho cheese Doritos. I. I missed that one. But I think Dan.

[Tony Reali]

Dan, for like the 10th time, wanted red versus blue Doritos put on the in show history. I think that's probably been up there six or seven times.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Tony Reali]

Shows history.

[Stugotz]

Not gonna lie. I go red.

[Tony Reali]

Look, I go blue.

[Mike Ryan]

Blue.

[Guest Caller]

And I'm not gonna lie. I have breaking news. I'm reporting news. Rachel Nichols may have told us a fib earlier. I'm not sure. Either she told us a fib or she told me a fib. Back when I was asking questions at NBA All Star game a couple of years ago. Red Doritos or blue Doritos? Her answer was, she doesn't eat Doritos. She only eats Fritos. I'm not saying. Check your sources.

[Rachel Nichols]

The human palette changes every seven years.

[Guest Caller]

Yeah, that is true. Last poll. Should Terry Rozier be afforded due process for his field goal percentage?

[Producer/Caller]

Your winning streak has ended.

[Guest Caller]

67 of the audience says, no, he should not be. And those are your polls.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you were throwing games for the Hornets, how would anyone be able to prove it? I did not know that the purple Dorito is better than the blue.

[Tony Reali]

Dorito. Burrito.

[Guest Caller]

Yes, sir.

[Rachel Nichols]

What happened there?

[Tony Reali]

Did I say burrito?

[Guest Caller]

I think you did.

[Tony Reali]

I couldn't have said burrito.