Postgame Show: The Latest On The NBA Trade Deadline (feat. Amin Elhassan & JuJu Gotti)

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Episode: Postgame Show - The Latest on the NBA Trade Deadline

Date: February 4, 2026
Featuring: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Amin Elhassan, JuJu Gotti, Jeremy Taché & others

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Episode Overview

Broadcast live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this postgame episode dives deep into all the chaos and rumors surrounding the NBA trade deadline. Dan, Amin, Jeremy, Juju, and guests analyze major moves, rampant speculation, the logic behind big trades, and the future of NBA franchises like the Timberwolves, Cavaliers, Grizzlies, and Heat. Blending inside info with trademark banter, the crew breaks down player motivations, cap maneuvers, and wild trade possibilities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minnesota Timberwolves — Lining Up for Giannis?

• Dan’s Theory ([01:29], [01:54]): Minnesota's recent cap-shaving moves signal they may be preparing a bid for Giannis Antetokounmpo, especially amid rumors Giannis wants to play with Anthony Edwards.
  • "Minnesota … made a move yesterday that didn't net them anything. … They may feel that they have a chance to land Giannis."
• Amin’s Context ([01:54]): Minnesota now sits under the first luxury tax apron, increasing flexibility. To truly have a shot at Giannis, they'd need to add picks (which likely means trading a significant player).
  • "If there's a 1% chance, we got to treat it like 100% chance. … They're rearranging everything to get ready to do that."

2. James Harden to Cleveland — Why Did It Happen?

• Trade Motivation & Contract Realities ([03:26], [03:44], [04:54], [05:07]):
  • Harden is not extension-eligible with Cleveland now, contrary to some media reports.
  • Amin: Harden’s main motivation is legacy and chasing a championship in an easier Eastern Conference, not money.
    • "James isn't doing this for the money. … He wants to win a championship. He's worried about his legacy, and he's being realistic."
• Deal Flexibility ([05:07]): Harden can opt in or out after the season; Cleveland is avoiding a long-term commitment and gaining flexibility.
  • "None of them [options] have long-term [implications] unless he opts out, in which case he could have done that from anywhere."

3. Cleveland's Roster Construction

• Cavs Moving Away from Small Backcourt ([07:24]):
  • Adding Harden potentially solves the defensive issues of having Garland/Mitchell together.
  • Amin notes Harden’s durability as a big plus ([07:52]), while Garland’s persistent injuries made him expendable.
    • "That dude plays, like, 80 games a year … and he doesn't get hurt."
• Donovan Mitchell, Harden, and LeBron (?) Fit ([06:02]):
  • Amin expresses skepticism on a big-three featuring older or mismatched stars:
    • "If that's your big master plan, it's LeBron, Donovan Mitchell, and James Harden. … It doesn't feel like a very natural fit."

4. Jaren Jackson Jr. to Utah & Trade Market Ripple Effects

• Impact on Market ([23:47], [23:54]):
  • Jaren Jackson Jr.’s trade for three first-round picks to Utah disrupts the value landscape.
    • "Screwing the market … because Jaren Jackson Jr. for three picks. … When you're talking about Giannis being able to go for four."
  • Utah’s glut of picks means they're incentivized to make bold moves, even overpaying.

5. Ja Morant’s Uncertain Future

• Potential Destinations & Trade Structure ([11:18], [12:17], [13:57], [14:32]):
  • The market is confused due to Ja’s value and Memphis’s motives—are they willing to attach picks to dump his contract, or to take long-term money for assets?
  • Amin: Teams in the Giannis sweepstakes don’t want to hurt their flexibility by chasing Ja, who is now viewed as a reclamation project.
    • "Everyone who's interested in Ja is also in the Giannis sweepstakes. … They're not going to jeopardize flexibility."
  • Juju brings fun: "If [Ja] ends up in Minnesota, I'm a Timberwolves fan. Fight me, sue me, bite, whatever you got to do to me." ([11:18])

6. Miami Heat & The Wild Multi-Team Blockbuster Possibility

• Jeremy’s 5-Team Trade Scenario ([23:33], [29:33]):
  • Jeremy throws out a 5-team, 11-player, multi-pick blockbuster that lands both Giannis and Ja Morant in Miami, detailing player and pick movement with feverish 2K energy.
    • "If that happens verbatim, I'll eat my shoe." ([31:03] - Guest)
• Amin on Blockbuster Trades:
  • Usually, team gives parameters (assets they want), not specifics. Deals this complex likely occur in offseason, not at the deadline, due to time constraints.

7. Contender Predictions & Deadline Surprises

• Houston Rockets ([25:39]):
  • Juju boldly predicts Houston will land a major point guard—Ja Morant or Dejounte Murray.
• Charlotte Hornets & New York Knicks ([26:03], [28:11]):
  • Dan and Juju both see Charlotte and New York taking big swings, with possible roster-clearing or impact trades.
• Philadelphia 76ers ([28:48]):
  • Amin: Philly’s top motivation is luxury tax savings, not big additions, especially after Embiid’s comments.

8. The Value of Prospects for a Giannis Trade ([20:30], [21:09])

• Amin explains how a prospect like Jaden McDaniels (Timberwolves) is viewed as a significant asset, potentially an all-star, while others have motor/effort concerns.
  • "They think he's an all-star. … His size allows him to guard four positions at an elite level."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Amin on Minnesota’s Giannis bid:

  "If there's a 1% chance, we got to treat it like a 100% chance." ([01:54])
  Dan jokes: "Did you quote Batman there?"
  Amin: "That's not Batman. That's Dick Cheney – the 'one percent doctrine.'"

• Amin on Harden’s real motive:

  "James isn't doing this for the money. ... He wants to win a championship. He's worried about his legacy, and he's being realistic." ([03:44])

• JuJu’s signature humor on defensive upgrades:

  "As awesome as it is to get that defensive liability in, Darius Garland out, you just picked up Schroeder and you saw what Jalen Brunson did to him in the playoffs..." ([09:41])

• On the overpay risk in the market:

  "Jaren Jackson Jr. for three picks… it’s manipulating the entire market." - JuJu ([23:47])

• On the Utah Jazz fanbase:

  "Have you ever met a Utah Jazz fan in real life, outside Utah?" ([24:31])

  • The panel jokes about never meeting one.

• Jeremy on wild hypothetical trades:

  "I've got a 5 team, 11 player, billion… If that happens verbatim, I’ll eat my shoe." ([31:03])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Minnesota’s moves and Giannis rumors: 01:29–02:57
• James Harden to Cleveland, contract details: 03:26–05:43
• Cavs’ backcourt rationale and Harden’s durability: 07:24–08:42
• Exploring Ja Morant’s trade value: 11:18–15:33
• Minnesota vs. Miami vs. Golden State for Giannis: 16:16–18:44
• Structure and likelihood of big multi-team trades: 19:20–20:30
• What makes a blue-chip trade prospect (McDaniels): 20:30–21:46
• Jaren Jackson’s trade market impact: 23:47–24:09
• Bold deadline predictions (Houston, Charlotte, NY): 25:39–28:11
• Jeremy’s 5-team blockbuster pitch: 29:33–31:12

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Tone & Style

• Signature Le Batard banter mixed with NBA nerdery and insight.
• Amin Elhassan supplies technical CBA/contract expertise in conversational, slightly sarcastic style.
• JuJu Gotti and others bring pop-culture quips, regional reps, and NBA Twitter humor.
• Wild hypotheticals and playful dares (e.g., eating a shoe if the mega-trade happens).
• Frequent shoutouts to the live chat and listeners for a community vibe.

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Final Prediction Round (Rapid-Fire) ([25:30–29:33])

• Juju: Houston Rockets make big point guard move (Ja Morant or Dejounte Murray).
• Dan: Charlotte Hornets finally make an impact trade to excite their fans.
• Juju: Knicks make a surprise deadline move — watch for roster shake-up.
• Amin: 76ers simply try to duck the luxury tax (by moving small contracts).
• Jeremy: Outlines absurd 5-team blockbuster bringing Giannis and Ja Morant to Miami (cue laughter and shoe-eating promises if it comes true).

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Quick Hits

• Blue-chip value for trades: Jaden McDaniels is Minnesota’s main piece; Miami has the most compelling young package according to panel.
• Biggest losers in the market: Golden State dismissed as too old; Utah’s stockpile of picks seen as wildcards.
• NBA Trade Deadline Live Reaction Special will air the following day.

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For trade rumor aficionados and NBA die-hards, this episode is a blend of knowledge, laughter, and “what ifs”—capturing the confusion and excitement of trade deadline season, Le Batard Show style.

Transcript

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[Jeremy]

I'm still wearing the Moira Rose thing.

[Juju]

Yeah, that was terrible.

[Dan]

I never seen that show, man, I was bored when you played that same. You bored me.

[Jeremy]

All right. So the deadline, a lot of things.

[Juju]

Happened when we got off yesterday, by the way. Yeah, dude, like 14 things happened.

[Jeremy]

It was crazy. So at the end of our half hour that we did yesterday, literally like we were about to wrap up in Jer Jr. Was traded and I had no way to react to it.

[Dan]

I was given a gift yesterday because it happened, right? I did afternoon drive on ESPN yesterday. It happened right before I went on. So I was handed a, a nice little nugget, right?

[Juju]

Little packet. And you're like, I can do four hours.

[Jeremy]

It's incredible. And then James Harden's traded later and, and here's the best part. We have Amino Hassan with us now for the post game show. We have, I believe we have Juju Gotti here with us as well. Not yet, but Amin is here. And Amin Zaz had some corrections about the way you were breaking down.

[Dan]

Yeah. So my initial thought and I talked about this early on yesterday afternoon was, you know, we're all waiting for the move before the move and Minnesota team that's trying to contend made a move yesterday that didn't net them anything. You know, like it opened up roster spots and it saved them money. So my first inclination was, oh, like they may feel that they have a chance to lands Giannis.

[Amin]

I mean, yeah, I mean there's been reporting that Giannis would like to play with Anthony Edwards. He's excited about the prospect of that. I don't think that means that's his favorite, but like, yeah, he's definitely open to it. And Minnesota is saying, look, if, if there's a 1% chance, we got to treat it like 100% chance. So they're rearranging everything to get ready to do that. One of the things that happened as a result of their deals yesterday is they moved under the first apron. So just from that aspect alone, they've saved a lot of money. They're about a Rob Dillingham deal away from being not a taxpayer. So that gives them a lot more flexibility in terms of the things that they can offer, the things that they can do if they're going to get Giannis, but if they're going to get Giannis, that means they got to trade one of their other guys to go get a first round pick, because Milwaukee wants picks and Minnesota doesn't have many.

[Juju]

I mean, is the bartender going behind you at some point? I haven't seen him yet.

[Amin]

No bartender. The hotel bar is closed. I don't know what time they open. Probably four.

[Dan]

And I mean, did you quote, did you quote Batman there? If it's even a 1% chance, we have to treat it as a certainty. Did you quote Batman?

[Amin]

That's, that's not Batman. Believe it or not, that's Dick Cheney. It's, it's called the 1% doctrine. And when they were doing the, the war on terror, that was Dick Cheney's thing is like, if there's a 1% chance that there's, like there's weapons of mass destruction here, we have to treat it like it's a 99%.

[Jeremy]

Good. I'm glad we're going with a zero percent chance. That strategy worked out really well.

[Dan]

All right. Because that was also in Batman vs Superman when Bruce Wayne was decided if Superman's his enemy, you know, terrible.

[Jeremy]

All right, but hold on, let's, let's go back to this James Harden trade to Cleveland because, I mean, we were talking on the show earlier and talking about essentially the concept of James Harden taking the money by going to Cleveland. Oh, there's going to be an extension. But you and I were talking a bit offline about why that's not necessarily, necessarily the case.

[Amin]

He's not, first of all, he's not extension eligible. Let's just start there. He's not eligible for an extension. He's got to play out the year, and then at the end, he can either opt into his deal or opt out and sign a new deal, but there can't be an extension there. He's got to basically play it out or not play it out. I talked to Law Murray, actually. The interview drops today on basketball Illuminati. Get it wherever you get podcasts and Law Murray, who's covered the Clippers, literally longer than anybody in the media, was basically at a very. It was kind of very blunt. He didn't pull punches. But he said, james isn't doing this for the money. This is a guy who's given up money in the past so that teams could assign more players and better players, all that. James is doing this because he wants to win a championship. He's worried about his legacy, and he's being realistic. You look at the Clippers, even though they've been playing great, are they going to win a title? They're not going to win a title. And this aspiration stuff means it's only probably going to get worse from here on out once the, the, you know, the judgments get levied. So he's like, get me out of here. Let me get somewhere where I have a chance. And he looks at Cleveland. I was like, okay, they're in the East. Their path is a lot easier. There were a really good team last year. They've got a superstar, Donovan Mitchell. I can go there and help them out.

[Dan]

All right. I mean, I guess we'll see if he asks Cleveland for an extension, right?

[Amin]

Well, I can't. It's not eligible for an extension. He cannot. He has to play until the end of the year.

[Dan]

But what about for next year? What about for next year?

[Amin]

So this is one of two things can happen. Either he opts out, right, Making him a free agent, and then he can sign a new deal, but he could sign anywhere at that point. Or he opts in, and then Cleveland has 11 days pretty much to figure out do we want to stay, stick with him for this one year, or do we want to waive him, or do we want to trade him somewhere else for someone who would wave him because he's only got $13 million guaranteed for next season. So it's. There's a lot of like moving chairs there. None of them have long term associated unless he opts out, in which case he could have done that from anywhere.

[Juju]

I mean, Tom Haverstrow had written a piece about all these things happening in Cleveland. LeBron going back to Cleveland, Harden being in Cleveland, Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, everybody there. Is that something that, that you think A, feasibly can happen? And B, if that doesn't happen, where does the Donovan Mitchell and James Harden led team pan out in the East?

[Amin]

Yeah, it's funny, like you mentioned that, and I'm like, is that a good team, right? LeBron James? It reminds me of like, remember when Wade forced his way out of Miami, went to Chicago and then he ended up on Cleveland, right? And then they were like, hey, and we're gonna get Carmelo. And I was like, yeah, give him Carmelo. Go ahead. That's not a good team. Like, these guys all past their problem because they want to be boys or buddies or whatever. Like, so the same thing here. It's like LeBron. I mean, obviously LeBron helps every team, but it's just like, if that's your big master plan, it's LeBron, Donovan, Mitchell, and James Harden. I don't know how that f. It doesn't feel like a very natural fit. Now Donovan, Mitchell, and James Harden. It's interesting because obviously Harden takes over the playmaking responsibilities that Donovan really doesn't want to do, but he's still kind of high usage guy, too. And what does that mean for Evan Mobley? Right? How does Evan Mobley fit into this? Does his game increase because he plays exa Harden, who's great with the. As a lob guy, or does it decrease because now you got two guards who are getting 18, 20, 20 plus shots a game, and now how much is left for. For Evan Mobley? I'm really interested. I'm intrigued. I think the reason why we're. Most of us are optimistic is because the belief is the east and the east is anybody's game. Well, I'll tell you one thing. No one's talking about this. The Celtics got Nick Vu of it.

[Juju]

That was a big trade, too.

[Amin]

That's a huge deal.

[Dan]

If I could just also add real quick, you know, to put a bow on the Cleveland conversation there. I mean, I think the reason they did it is just as much about being tired of defense is targeting Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell. The smallest backcourt, which you're not gonna be able to win in the playoffs like that. Like, I feel like that is as much to do with the offensive side.

[Amin]

Yeah, it's Garland. Size is an issue. Garland's health.

[Juju]

His foot. His foot hasn't been healthy in two years.

[Amin]

He get. He gets hurt a lot. Like Harden.

[Juju]

We.

[Amin]

We give. I heard you guys giving Harden a lot of. I'm gonna tell you one thing. In an era where everybody was, like, managing and playing 22 minutes and stuff like that, that dude plays, like 80 games a year, and he plays 37. 30. He play every year, so. And he doesn't get hurt. So it's like there's. There's a reason why it worked, you know, somewhat for them in the Clippers, because it's like, yo, Kwai is great in the Playoffs. But he, you know, he's not that durable. This guy's really durable during regular season, not great in the playoffs. Put them together, and we kind of hedge our bets. So Cleveland definitely gets up on that. And then the other thing is that Garland makes continuous money over the next three years, right? Harden, that flexibility is part of it. It's like, yo, if it doesn't work out, we have options. Whereas Garland, long, you know, you don't know if you want to be married to that for that long of term.

[Jeremy]

It almost makes me wonder, too, if ultimately, like, if it doesn't work out with Harden, if they just either move him or wave him and then end up using some of the money and some of the other contracts they have to get off of it to get LeBron. But we have good news. Juju is here. And Juju I want to run through. There are so many names and just so many different things that are out there, and I. I'm going to say all of them, and I just want to hear what's standing out the most to you that has you the most intrigued here during the deadline. So we have Giannis and the potential that he could. The Timberwolves, the Heat, the Warriors, Draymond Green, who could potentially be moved, apparently, according to him and to everyone else, John Moran. And what's going to happen with Memphis? James Harden obviously going to Cleveland, Jaren Jackson Jr. Going to Utah for three picks. There's LeBron's future. Chris Paul exists, Anthony Davis, Mike Conley being moved, and maybe a buyout candidate. Jared Allen. They're floating out there. His name. There's the guys with the Kings and demar derosan, Zach lavine. There's Demonte Sabonis. Juju, of all of the stuff that's going on right now, what are the things that are standing out to you the most?

[Phenomenal]

Bruh, I checked out around Yanis. I hold you. I. I heard you, but it started running together. You did. But before we move on to that, I want to comment on the. The James Harden in Cleveland. As awesome as it is to get that defensive liability in, Darius Garland out, you just picked up Schroeder and you saw what Jalen Branson did to him in the playoffs last year. Over there. Excuse me. Your shoes are over here and you're over here, sir. Which way you want be?

[Juju]

You dig.

[Phenomenal]

And James Harden isn't necessarily known as the best defender in the world. I say that so I don't know Cleveland. I like where your head is at. You're all in you're putting the chips to the table. But I'm not sure if these chips you're putting in or getting back is worth the struggle you did.

[Jeremy]

I, I do. Because I, I actually agree with you on this. I dig. Okay, good. I, I dig. No to me, like I, I get what you're saying there where it's not like all of a sudden they're turn Garland into some tremendous two way player, but what they are turning him into is someone who's incredibly durable. And we've seen what Donovan Mitchell can do off ball in earlier stages of his career. And to give him a primary playmaker who can kind of help alleviate some of what he's had to do as a playmaker, I think does give him a space to score. But juju was it Giannis. That's the other thing that standing out to you like what else from what what's going on around the trade deadline in the rumor mill is, is sticking out the most because there are, I mean. Or the deals like Jaren Jackson Jr. Is crazy. That happened at the end of our live stream yesterday.

[Phenomenal]

Yeah, I'm still very interested in what 12 gonna be doing John Moran. Where's John gonna end up? Because I'm here to say if he end up in Minnesota, I'm a Timberwolves fan. Fight me, sue me, bite, whatever you got to do to me. I'm a Timberwolves fan. You feel me? But I, I'm also really kind of optimistic about this Vuch situation in Boston right now. Big Vucci man like you did like first off, I'm so sorry to the chat. Salute to the chat king Grizzly. I see you the burrow. Come on, man. And you are right. Chat. I said James Harden, I don't think he was going to Cleveland that strike one for me. Two more strikes, I'm out. I'm suspended for a month. So you got the one. I thought he was going to go to New York where LeBron gonna end up. Spoiler alert. But neither. I think that brings Boston more to that conversation than anything else.

[Jeremy]

I do wonder if his defense ends up being an issue for them come the postseason. But when it comes to the rest of these guys, like, and this is where I mean I'd love to bring you back in when it comes to Ja like the market seems to be so strange and there have been reports that either Memphis.

[Juju]

Memphis lowered their price, right?

[Jeremy]

Well, Memphis lowered their price, but does that mean like Mark Stein was throwing out there the idea that it could mean they'd be willing to take on long term money if they added draft capital. But then there have also been reports that they'd be willing to attach draft capital to get off of his money and get expiring deals. So if you're, are you seeing that as a possibility, like, could, could Memphis end up attaching draft capital to John Morant just so that they can say, hey, we're good, we picked up all of these picks and, and we can.

[Amin]

Move forward to wash their hands of it? Yeah, right. If you're like, you know, you put, you pretty much said it. If I'm acquiring toxic contracts, then all right, you gotta, you gotta compensate me for that. But if you're helping me clean my books, yeah, I'll stretch your back someone.

[Jeremy]

So.

[Amin]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

So do you see that as a, I mean, I'm looking at that and I'm going, well, if the Miami Heat are sitting here trying to acquire picks and they have all of this movable money where you can move Terry Rozier and Sim Fontechio out to Memphis, where you can move Tyler Hero and either Norman Powell or Andrew Wiggins out to, to Milwaukee and the young guys there and maneuver the different picks that you can get, particularly if you can get a 27 from Memphis and then get Charlotte to unprotect that 27 where you can move four picks to Milwaukee, do you see that as a possibility where they're trying to go and get both Ja and Giannis and blow the whole thing?

[Amin]

Yeah, I, I, but I, I, There's a couple questions you have to ask yourself. Number one is, am I gutting what would make it into a attractive situation to begin with? Right. If I'm saying Tyler Hero is gone and Andrew Wiggins is gone and Norm.

[Jeremy]

Powell is gone, well, they wouldn't all have to be gone like Norm. Theoretically, in this situation, one of Norman, like in terms of the finances, one of Norman Powell or Andrew Wiggins would need to go. You would still have Davion Mitchell as, as now your backup.

[Dan]

No, but it means making a good point because then it looks like Phoenix from the last couple.

[Jeremy]

No, that's fair. It's, that's the question. Question.

[Amin]

Yeah. And so, and so that's one thing. The other thing is also, like, what does a jaw, Giannis, Bam. Out of a lineup look like? Because that's three dudes who can't shoot.

[Juju]

Yeah, that looks like a tough lineup. The paint is very clogged.

[Amin]

You look like, you look like, you know, basically like the Memphis grizzlies from like 2015 or whatever. So you got. You got to find out how do we make this so that there's still something that's feasible to work with. The problem with JA right now moving JA is that everyone who's. Who would be interested in JA is also in the YANA sweepstakes. So everyone's like, I'm not gonna jeopardize what I got going on as far as an offer. Take away flexibility of what my offer could be, because I went and chased this dude who's a reclamation project at this point, right to the point where they're trying to incentivize people to get it. Get it done. But. But I do like what you're saying, Jeremy. It's like, if I'm doing it not because I really like job, but because I can get another first out of this, maybe that's something I have to consider.

[Guest]

The chat is saying that Amin has that pillow talk voice going. Right now.

[Amin]

I'm in a hotel lobby. There's 8 million people here. And I'm not trying to be, like, yelling and like.

[Phenomenal]

Because I know what's happening, y'.

[Amin]

All.

[Phenomenal]

I know what's happening. First off, happy Black History Month reminder, my boy. Is something in there right now? Something is sitting around something that's very beautiful is in AR connection.

[Amin]

I wish. I wish.

[Juju]

It is.

[Jeremy]

It's the.

[Juju]

It's the. You know what back there.

[Amin]

It's the alcohol some dude just planted. You see that? I don't know what it is. Is it a camera? Is it a light? I don't know what it is, but he planted that right by me and just walked away. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe we're. We're all shooting in the same area right here.

[Jeremy]

Do you see it as a possibility that Minnesota can. Can get this together and. And juju? Like, obviously, the JA thing to Minnesota is interesting. The Giannis thing is interesting. But both of you, and I think juju. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, too, with what package you think is the best that's out there. And then maybe Amin, like, explain how it's possible that Minnesota can get to the place where they can actually offer something reasonable for the Bucs based off what they want.

[Phenomenal]

Bruh. I don't. To me, I feel like what Miami has to offer is the one if I'm the bus.

[Amin]

You did.

[Phenomenal]

Because everybody who Miami is offering has potential to kind of be a star or at least a great at their position. Great at what they do. You did. Because Tyler hero. Bam. I only. I don't Think you should play with Bam. But at the same time, Larson, the whole roster is, is upstanding. I know Golden State, to me, goofy. I don't know who they paid in the Internet lands to be pushing that day. Still got good faith bets going on or whatever trades. I don't believe them at all. Get Golden State the hell up out of here. I don't want any of them old ass needs on my team. And the only thing that was going good for y', all, you put a fire in Kaminga. Unfortunately, that fire went out. Game two, he went on somebody ankle.

[Jeremy]

You did.

[Phenomenal]

And so sorry, I don't want nobody from over there.

[Amin]

I mean, you know, so Golden State is interesting because their thing is centered around we give you Kaminga, there's your young player, we'll give you picks, there's your picks. And then I think what Golden State can do that a lot of teams can't is, is say, I'll take some bad contracts back. And, and this is where it gets interesting. Everyone's saying, draymond, I keep going back to the man. I'd trade Jimmy in a heartbeat. If I'm Golden State, if it's like, I'll take Miles Turner contract off your hands, whatever, I'll make it happen. Whatever it takes, right? From what juju said about Miami, Miami, I think out of all the teams we've talked about Minnesota, Golden State, I guess you could throw Atlanta in that, in that mix as well. Miami has the most young guys you could get excited about, right? But does a team coming with a bunch of picks change that math, right? If, if Minnesota can somehow maybe get two firsts for Nas Reid, like, does that, is that more interesting?

[Jeremy]

So to get two firsts for Nazride.

[Dan]

I mean, how do you think that works?

[Jeremy]

I mean, I love Somebody bites for nice man two first. That's interesting.

[Dan]

I mean, how does that work? Where, like, let's say Minnesota wants to trade Naz Reed for two first round picks and then they would use that for Giannis. Does Milwaukee say, okay, if you do this, we will make the trade? Like, how much? How much, how comfortable does Minnesota have to be or any other team for that matter to. To go out, trade away player X to get the assets to then turn around and give it to Milwaukee? Like, do they have to have a guarantee that Milwaukee will do it if you do this?

[Amin]

So rarely do you tell them how. You just say, what's it gonna take? And they say, look, this is the asking price. If you can get us this, this and this many Pigs, you've got a deal. And so then there's usually got to give some time parameter because you don't want to be just waiting. But yeah, like, that's basically. You don't tell them who I'm moving out. I got. I could get two for first. You don't say that. You just say, if I can get you two first, does this get it done? And then maybe you talk a little bit about protections. Like, does it have to be. Can it be lottery protected first? Like those. Those kind of conversations you got to have. But at the end of the day, you know what the deal is, because we're up against this deadline that's 24 hours or so away, someone could get into a bidding war and come up with a better deal. In the meantime, as you're trying to find these deals, which I think is another when. Then you're stuck, which I think is another reason why you're probably gonna see a deal happen in June and not tomorrow, because you got more time to kind of build these things out as opposed to, like, doing your homework at the last minute, which is what the trade deadline pretty much is.

[Juju]

I mean, you look. You look at the young players, right? Quote, unquote, blue chip prospects that Milwaukee wants, and Minnesota was going to have to move heaven and earth to even try and get close to the picks and the players and all this stuff. Is Jaden McDaniels really the guy that Milwaukee circling and being like, that's the cornerstone of our franchise going forward for the next 10 years? Because it doesn't feel like even Minnesota had big plans like that for J. For Jaden McDaniels.

[Amin]

I don't think the cornerstone might be too far, but they. They think he's an all Star. They think he's. He's that guy. Like. And definitely, if I were them, that'd be a name I'd be just stuck on in the same way I'd be stuck on Khale Ware.

[Juju]

For which one you take, Kalel or McAniels?

[Amin]

I think McDaniels, because McDaniels is doing it. But Khalel, dude, we're sitting around thinking, is he ever gonna get it? Does he understand? And. And McDaniels is like, no, I get it right now. He's. His size allows him to guard four positions at an elite level. Offensively, he's gotten better. He's gotten a better shooter and all that. He's played on a team as winning. Like, he. He's accustomed to, like, what it takes to be A competitor, he's fiery guy. Does he approach the line sometimes? Yeah, but I kind of like that killer where we out here wondering, like, yo, can you string together three games in a row?

[Juju]

Right? He did it. He did it in December one time, and it was like, okay, great.

[Amin]

But, yeah, but then that's the point. It's like the. The point isn't play well. It's same play well every single day. Like, there's no part of this where there's a finish line. You got to keep doing it. And I think, to me, if it was just him struggling, like, making shots or whatever, that'd be one thing. It's. To him, it's like a motor thing. There's days where he's just not putting in the motor, and again, he's 72 or whatever. So there's some stuff you can't teach. But, like, I think as A sure thing, McDaniels by far, is a much better prospect.

[Jeremy]

God, you are not doing the job right.

[Juju]

My bad. I just. I. I, you know, I'm just hyping. I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to get the real questions answered.

[Jeremy]

No, I mean, I think where is Phenomenal. Where you think? Thank you, Juju. I like him, too.

[Amin]

I like them. I like them.

[Announcer]

I like.

[Amin]

I like them, too.

[Phenomenal]

I like them also. To the chat right now.

[Amin]

Salute.

[Phenomenal]

Thank y' all for sticking with us this long. And we keeping it going. Irish Ouija. I see you the boy. QC man 2000. Come on, man. Slime. Shinobi was henning.

[Jeremy]

What's this?

[Phenomenal]

GPZ, boy, you got to know. Voodoo Child and Jojo from what that LL Cool J, LL Lee, whoever you from, bro, I salute it. Back to you, Jeremy.

[Amin]

I.

[Jeremy]

Before we wrap up, we have about seven minutes left that we're. We're gonna do this before we wrap. Remind me. I'm gonna just throw out a predictive five team trade that lands Giannis on the heat. But that's 2k stuff. But put it on the record. I'm gonna put it on the record.

[Juju]

I'm gonna put it on the record. When was the Last time a 5 team?

[Jeremy]

All the time.

[Juju]

Multi superstar trade all the time.

[Jeremy]

Not multi superstar. Jaw's not a superstar right now. Oh, that's too not right now.

[Juju]

That's two cases that works in 2K.

[Jeremy]

I'll explain it to you. It's fine.

[Amin]

That's for Friday. Then he's a superstar again.

[Jeremy]

Of course.

[Juju]

Are you kidding?

[Jeremy]

The moment he's here, he's a superstar. I'M talking superstar value.

[Dan]

All right, let's hear it before.

[Jeremy]

No, I mean we don't have to. What I wanted to get first actually is I I the Jaren Jackson thing. We have not we didn't dive into it.

[Juju]

Screwing the market is manipulating the entire market because Jaren Jackson Jr. For three picks. When you're talking about Giannis being able.

[Dan]

To go for four, that's what he's worth to Utah. Utah has all these picks. You can't use them all. Like you literally don't have enough roster space. Like that's what he's worth to Utah. It doesn't mean that because Jaren Jackson's worth doesn't mean that Jaren Jackson's worth three first. So what's Giannis worth? So he's worth to Utah Most boring.

[Phenomenal]

Team in the universe. Also by the way, I'm talking about I don't give a damn what Utah Jazz do you? I do not cheer for them my entire life.

[Juju]

How about Keonte George?

[Phenomenal]

Keonte George. I'm free. Keonte George. I promise to this backwards because there's never been a section in my life where I even found the Utah Jazz kind of cute. Get him out of here.

[Dan]

Have you ever met a Utah Jazz fan?

[Juju]

Me Juju went I mean was there too we went to Utah for Was it the all Star game?

[Dan]

Even in Utah you'll meet some but like just anywhere else in the walk of life have you met a Jazz fan?

[Juju]

You told question Jeremy just did the.

[Jeremy]

Dan with his mic off.

[Guest]

He said something into the mic with his mic off.

[Jeremy]

No, I. I yelled it so that everyone could hear it.

[Guest]

He meant to do that into him.

[Jeremy]

That's a good question. I do it with mic off in there all the time. Don't tell me what to do when.

[Guest]

The driver what about that chair? They love turning their mic.

[Phenomenal]

Put it on. Put it on the pole. Dan, have you ever met a a Utah Jazz fan? What do you say in real life?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Amin]

Outside of Utah Outside of Utah.

[Phenomenal]

Irl outside of Utah.

[Jeremy]

Also put it on the poll Did Jeremy mean to talk about with his.

[Phenomenal]

Mic off Also put on the poll Would a Houston Rocket shot the world with a phenomenal trade by tomorrow Cuz I think we not paying attention attention to the Houston Rockets right now. They need a point guard. It's some available point guards. You trying them?

[Guest]

That's what this should be right here.

[Jeremy]

What Juju just did. I want you guys to go around.

[Guest]

The room these last five minutes. I need predictions what's happening tomorrow.

[Jeremy]

Okay.

[Guest]

Go Ahead, Juju.

[Phenomenal]

The Houston Rockets will land either John Morant.

[Jeremy]

Wow.

[Phenomenal]

Or some type of. I'm People forgetting about dejante Murray. Dejante Murray is sitting right there. Oh, he got ice on his ankle, but watch out for him. Achilles, he got ice on it. Is he icing it? But as soon as it's ready, come. Come put this Rocket jersey on. So, yeah, the Rocket's gonna make a big move. Big, splashy move by tomorrow.

[Dan]

So I'll go a little bit off the board. I mean, look, as far as Giannis goes, other than that, I. Yeah, yeah. No, no. As far as Giannis goes, like, I. I do believe he's going to be traded tomorrow. All right. But that's. I'll go a little off the board here. And I think right now, based off of seven consecutive wins, I think Charlotte's gonna do something. I think Charlotte has not.

[Juju]

Charlotte's a good team.

[Dan]

I think Charlotte has an opportunity for, like, the first time ever to do something that could maybe help them win some. Win a playoff series, man. I mean, I'm. A playoff series, like, if they make the playoffs, you know, they're probably gonna be the eight seed. You're gonna play Detroit. But they have an opportunity here to excite their fan base a little bit right now for the first time in forever. And I think Charlotte's gonna do something.

[Juju]

I actually really like that take because I'm. I've been undercover Charlotte fan. I love Conqueror. I think he's been incredible.

[Guest]

Stealing his prediction.

[Juju]

No, no. I'm just saying I like. I like what he's thinking about. I. I'm gonna go to a question. Go ahead.

[Phenomenal]

Quick question. Tony in the middle, because you just sparked it. A knife is a knife. Knock is a knock.

[Juju]

Yeah.

[Phenomenal]

I feel like my boy name is Nipple. I mean, neither here.

[Juju]

There's a lot of U's and E's and P's and ends.

[Phenomenal]

I'm like, yeah.

[Dan]

Nipple, if you.

[Juju]

If you go through any rabbit hole, take a look at the Knipple family. I mean, you've done the deep dive.

[Dan]

The names of all the kids.

[Juju]

Not only that, the brothers are even all like the same thing. Like, they're. It's.

[Amin]

Yeah, they're all with K's.

[Juju]

It's like the Flying Willendas. They're just like this people.

[Amin]

They also have, like, when they played Milwaukee, the. You know how, like, whenever you will play your hometown, you request extra tickets. And sometimes a guy like, oh, I got 200. They said he requested 6, 000 tickets. And I was like, I've never heard that in the history of the M.

[Juju]

We'll take these four sections, please. Thank you.

[Amin]

My boy told me, he was like, guess, guess how many? I'm like, it's like like 50. He's like, no, no, like a lot. Like, who's the most? Probably like a hundred, maybe 200. He said 6,000. I'm like, Jesus Christ.

[Juju]

The Canipple family. Take a look. I'm gonna go with another team that's won seven in a row. I think the New York Knickerbockers are going to do something interesting.

[Dan]

Really?

[Juju]

Yeah. I don't know what it is yet. I think they're gonna, they're gonna try and make a move, even if it's not in the Yana situation. Just to try to try to clear up some things, get a couple picks in.

[Guest]

I feel like juju.

[Jeremy]

Name names.

[Guest]

You guys are being a little vague.

[Jeremy]

With your predictions, but what is he gonna say?

[Juju]

Giannis is gonna go to Charlotte.

[Guest]

Say like of what you think Charlotte would get.

[Dan]

And I mean I, I could see them moving lamelo ball, you know, but they would have to get some, they're, they have to get someone they believe is good.

[Juju]

Right.

[Dan]

But I, I, I, I think Charlotte's going to do something.

[Juju]

I think New York can move off a cat once again.

[Guest]

Those are guys leaving, not coming. But anyway, Jeremy, what's your prediction?

[Jeremy]

I've got a 5 team 11 player billion.

[Guest]

Go to a mean first mean. What's your prediction?

[Amin]

My prediction is Philly does a deal to get under the luxury tax. Because we talked about it on right.

[Dan]

After Embiid came out and said the team doesn't spend the last few years.

[Amin]

Yeah, we talked about it. On basketball Illuminati, the Paul George suspension. The big thing that no one's talking about is it takes them to just about a million over the tax. So basically, if they can get rid of second year senator Johnny Broom.

[Juju]

Oh, what did Johnny do to you?

[Phenomenal]

Johnny Broom trade for Johnny Broom. Connect.

[Amin]

Oh, Connect. Connect could be on the move too.

[Guest]

Connect is under. Speaking about Connect and under the apron prediction by Amin. All right, over to Jeremy.

[Dan]

Is that better?

[Juju]

You like that one better?

[Jeremy]

You guys have brought up some things that I love here. You brought up Charlotte, you brought up Dalton Connect. So here we go. Involving five teams. The Miami Heat, the Milwaukee Bucks, Los Angeles Lakers, the Memphis Grizzlies and the Charlotte Hornets.

[Juju]

Oh, God.

[Jeremy]

In this trade, Dalton Connect gets moved to the Hornets so that the hornets convey the 20, 27 first round pick for the Heat, they unprotected. That becomes a pick there. Why? Because Memphis sends a 2027 first round pick to Miami alongside John Morant in exchange for Terry Rozier and Simone Fontechio so that they can get two expiring contracts. What does that do for Miami? It unlocks all four tradable first round picks. 2026, 2028, 2032 and 2030. All four of those go to Milwaukee alongside Tyler Herro, Khalel ware, Jaime Hakz Jr. And Casper. But not only four picks go to the a 2032 protected first round pick, lottery protected from the Lakers goes to the Bucs. Why? Because the Heat move Andrew Wiggins to the Lakers who's on a player option for next year and ultimately they get that pick to go to Milwaukee. So it's five picks to Milwaukee. Rui Hachimaru joins Terry.

[Juju]

Rui. Rui Rui.

[Jeremy]

Don't ruin his name. Hachimura. Rui Hachimura goes with Tyler Herro, Khalil ware, Jaime Hakz Jr, Casper Jacochonis and five first round picks to the Bucks. The Heat land Giannis Antetokounmpo, Ja Morant, Thanasis Antetokounmpo and Gabe Wilson.

[Guest]

If that happens verbatim, I'll eat my shoe.

[Jeremy]

All right. Get ready for it.

[Amin]

Every part of it.

[Jeremy]

Every single part of it, I guess has to happen.

[Amin]

Every part of his shoe.

[Jeremy]

Every part of the shoe is getting. That's right. That's it.

[Juju]

That's all you'll do.

[Jeremy]

The shoe.

[Guest]

Just trying to think of something wacky I could eat.

[Juju]

I can think of a couple wacky things.

[Dan]

Shoe is wacky.

[Amin]

Nah, it's not that ate the tweet.

[Phenomenal]

Shoe is supreme wacky.

[Jeremy]

Thank you, Juju.

[Juju]

Do the FSU thing. The guy that ate the dog shit.

[Jeremy]

Oh well, it's a shoo in that. You'll enjoy our NBA Trade Deadline Special tomorrow. Tomorrow from 2 to 4 will be live after the show. It'll be a separate live from what we're doing on our. On our standard live show, but we'll be live here on YouTube. I believe all of these people, except for Chris will be involved in that. We're trying to get.

[Guest]

Sorry audience.

[Jeremy]

He's got stuff to do. What do you got to do? But it'll be take a quiz. We'll be live from 2 to 4 simply so that we can react to everything that is happening or not happening. Maybe nothing happens. Can you imagine? It would be really funny. Yeah, it does feel like it's the kiss of death with us doing that. But there should be a lot of movement. We're looking forward to doing it. Amin Juju, thanks for joining us. And yeah, we'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Amin]

I can't wait for the deal to go down as soon as we're off the air.

[Jeremy]

103 oh, you know the deal.

[Guest]

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[Dan]

Hopefully.

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