Reacting To The Celtics Collapse: "They Are Historic Losers" | Local Hour

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Episode Overview

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Reacting To The Celtics Collapse: "They Are Historic Losers" | Local Hour
Date: May 4, 2026
Theme: The episode centers on the Boston Celtics’ shocking Game 7 collapse, with the Miami-based crew reveling in their downfall. The conversation explores sports hatred, particularly the deep Miami-Boston rivalry across multiple leagues, a deep dive into the context and meaning of the Celtics’ loss, and critiques of Boston fandom, coaching decisions, and sports historical narratives. The group also brings in humor, personal anecdotes, and a bit of pop culture for flavor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend "Hate-Watching" and Setting the Scene

• Mike Ryan opens the show appreciating the rare joy of a weekend spent "hate-watching" (00:08), setting a celebratory and snarky tone.
• Date night recap leads to honest admissions – Mike planned early dinner to be home for the pivotal Celtics game, with tongue-in-cheek excuses to his wife (01:15).
• The group lightly reviews "Devil Wears Prada 2" before transitioning to the main basketball event (03:22).

2. The Celtics' Collapse: Savoring the Downfall

• The hosts gleefully dissect Boston’s meltdown: "The Celtics, they cough up the 3–1… what a night. That performance by the Boston Celtics — chef's kiss." – Mike Ryan (05:45)
• Dismissing the “gap year” excuse from Celtics fans: "Guess what? You can't then now call it a gap year when you blow a 3–1 lead to the number seven seed." – Mike Ryan (06:00)
• General agreement that Boston’s reputation is stained further by failing to close against underdog Philadelphia.

3. Why the Hate? Miami vs. Boston Rivalry Explored

• Dave Dameshek questions the depth of Miami’s sports hatred for Boston, prompting an origin story of the rivalry across NBA, NHL, NFL, and even college football (06:35–08:43).
• "I hate their guts… It's as simple as that for me." – Mike Ryan (07:20)
• History is discussed, including Pat Riley’s influence—Boston loathing is both professional and generational.
• They roast Boston’s superiority complex, dismissing ancient Celtics titles won “when there were eight teams in the league.” (11:31)

4. Celtics' Historic Underachievement

• Panel calls out Boston's reputation as "front-running chokers," contrasting old league dominance with modern failures (10:10–11:10).
• "This team only knows how to win when they have a giant lead… In four years, they've lost a series where they were giant favorites… they're a bunch of front-running chokers." – Jeremy (10:00)
• Boston’s tendency to lose to lower seeds is highlighted, as is the overhyped talent narrative ("Every time everybody's telling us how incredible Tatum and Brown are. And yeah, you have this gap year, but… they're underachievers." – Jeremy, 18:57).

5. The Legacy Conversation: Counting Championships

• Deliberation on which titles “count” — dismissing old, “clunky” Celtics championships before racial integration and the NBA–ABA merger (15:19–16:37).
• Amin Elhassan: "We’re going to sit here and count 11 championships played in that old clunky style… from the merger… the Celtics have... five titles. Meanwhile, the Miami Heat—damn." (16:21)
• Modern championships are lauded as more legitimate, downplaying Boston’s early trophy case in favor of post-merger records.

6. The Race and Stereotype Angle

• Greg Cote addresses uncomfortable truths about Boston fandom’s reputation for racism, insisting it can’t be ignored, but clarifies it isn’t everyone (16:59–17:44).
• The panel agrees stereotypes stick, and Miami’s perception is shaped by these realities as well.

7. Ripping Joe Mazzulla and Celtics’ Coaching

• Harsh criticism for Boston’s head coach Joe Mazzulla’s Game 7 lineup choices—calling them “incomprehensible” and “the work of a goofball” (19:20, 23:37).

• "Game 7 of the playoffs. You're going to start Luka Garza? Why are we not killing Joe Mazzulla?... This dude should have been fired at halftime." – Amin (23:37)

• Mike Ryan laments Mazzulla’s postgame philosophical ramblings as empty and irritating for fans (25:49).

  Notable Mazzulla Quote
  "The year we won, I felt just as empty as we did when we lost. …there's a duality to everything... It's not an either-or thing, it's both." – Joe Mazzulla (25:08)

  Mike Ryan retorts: "Imagine you're a fan… you got to listen to that mumbo jumbo bullshit." (25:49)

8. Celtics Player Excuses & Self-Pity

• Jaylen Brown’s postgame comments spark derision:
  • On Embiid: "Flopping has ruined our game. Joel Embiid is a great player... but flops." (32:49)
  • On refs: "There's some referees that need to be investigated…" (34:52)
• Hosts react with disgust: "That's embarrassing… You blew a 3–1 lead and you're out there talking about Joel Embiid flopping. Just shut up. Eat the L." – Greg Cote (33:54)

9. Media Narratives & Boston’s outsized influence

• Panel critiques the national media for not flaming Boston enough, attributing it to the Northeast’s disproportionate control on sports narratives (20:16).
• Greg Cote: "The Northeast influence over sports is irrefutable… they dominate the conversation here." (20:20)
• Calls out Bill Simmons (“the sports guy”) as a tastemaker and symbol of Boston-centric coverage.

10. The “Real/Asterisk” Championship Debate

• Ongoing jokes and spirited play on whether old titles (e.g., Bill Russell’s Celtics) should even be considered in modern time.
• "Thank you for your service and get back to that box in the attic. As we talk about real championships…" – Amin (39:07)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "The Celtics, they cough up the 3–1… what a night." – Mike Ryan (05:45)
• "I hate their guts… It's as simple as that for me." – Mike Ryan (07:20)
• "The Boston Celtics are a bunch of front-running chokers." – Jeremy (10:00)
• "We're going to sit here and count 11 championships played in that old clunky style? …from the merger… the Celtics have... five titles." – Amin Elhassan (16:21)
• "Why are we not killing Joe Mazzulla?… [He] should have been front and center on every show. This dude should have been fired at halftime." – Amin Elhassan (23:37)
• "Just shut up. Eat the L." – Greg Cote on Jaylen Brown (33:54)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:08 – Mike Ryan describes the joy of “hate-watching” the Celtics.
• 03:00–05:00 – Shifting from date night anecdotes to the Celtics’ collapse.
• 06:35–08:43 – Origins and animosity of Miami vs. Boston rivalries across sports.
• 10:10–11:10 – Panel calls Boston “front-running chokers.”
• 15:19–16:37 – Which NBA championships “count”; ABA/NBA merger and race.
• 16:59–17:44 – Acknowledging racial stereotypes and their impact on sports rivalries.
• 19:20, 23:37–24:31 – Scathing critique of Joe Mazzulla’s Game 7 decisions.
• 25:08–25:49 – Mazzulla’s duality speech and Mike Ryan's angry fan reaction.
• 32:49–34:52 – Jaylen Brown’s excuses & panel’s smackdown.
• 38:09 – “Most storied franchise” and dismissing ancient Celtics championships.

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Tone and Style

• Irreverent, snarky, and joyfully petty—especially in reveling in Boston’s failures.
• Unapologetically Miami-centric with a playful, mocking edge.
• Willing to veer into nuanced and serious commentary (race, sports history) before careening back into jokes, one-upmanship, and inside references.

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Overall Takeaway

This Local Hour is a masterclass in schadenfreude as the Miami-centric crew relishes the Boston Celtics’ playoff implosion, connects it to broader themes of sports hatred, historical baggage, and media narratives. Harsh on both player and coach excuses, the hosts make a strong case that Miami fandom’s “hate” for Boston is not only warranted, but an essential part of sports culture and history.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

Just an incredible weekend of hate watching on, like, a legendary weekend. Weekends like this, they don't come along very often. So when they do, I think you need to take a moment and just appreciate it. Good morning, everyone. I don't know if this crew has worked together yet. We got a fun crew here today. Look at. Look at everybody. We got Dave Danishek here. Yeah.

[Chris]

Good job.

[Dave Danishek]

What a pleasure to join you in your moment of play. Pleasure of hate watching everybody else. What's a mean doing back there? Stay on target, Amin. Come on, man. Look at him. I love the T shirt. I don't know that. I love the. The eating, finishing breakfast.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's breakfast flan. Come on. It's tradition like no other. Also, may the fourth be with you.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, man, did we have some fun this weekend. Saturday night. We'll start with Saturday night. I went. I did date night. I mean, you know how it goes sometimes you got to treat the ladies, right? Did date night on Saturday. Took my wife out. What are you pointing at me?

[Amin Elhassan]

You had your finest stone cold Steve Austin T shirt on.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I. I not gonna lie. When I got dressed, you know, we went for the early bird, quarter to 5pm dinner, 6pm movie.

[Scott Jennings]

Quarter to 5? What does that mean? In the fours. You had dinner in the fours?

[Mike Ryan]

You can't be serious.

[Scott Jennings]

Quarter to five, you eat at 4:45.

[Mike Ryan]

We. We went to dinner at 4. 45. Yes, four. It was six o' clock movie. All right.

[Scott Jennings]

Eat after, though.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I wanted to get home. Game seven. Come on. And which. Which was a problem in and of itself because when I was getting dressed and I'm getting ready and I come out of the bathroom and my wife looks at me, she goes, wow, that's what you're wearing to take your wife out on date night, huh? And I had. I had to change my pants because I was in shorts. Like, I was in the same kind of shorts that I wear here, you know, So I shamed a little bit.

[Dave Danishek]

No backwards hat, though.

[Greg Cote]

The shorts were bad, but the arrive, raise hell, leave stone cold Steve Austin shirt stayed on.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I let. I let the dome out on Saturday nights. No hats. All right. And we get to dinner. Yes. 4:45. 4:45. We went out to dinner because we got to make the six o' clock movie. And she starts to put two and two together because, like, the TVs are on the bar, but there's no basketball on yet. And she. She sees, like, the. The, you know, the promotion for the game that's coming up for Boston and Philadelphia. She's like, hold on a second. Are we seeing the six o' clock movie? Because you knew that you wanted to get home in time for game seven tonight. Now we went. We went to see Devil Wears Prada, too. Now, if you know anything about me, okay, you know, you know two things about me. You know, A, I'm not. I'm never a cuck. All right, stop, listen. Stop sending me pictures of chairs in hotel rooms. It's enough already, all right? Non stop. Every day I'm getting empty chairs in hotel rooms. I would never sit in that chair. Everybody knows. Not a cuck. And number two, everyone knows I love Devoir's Prada. So I bought the tickets to the movie like a week in advance. Dave, how would I know that there's going to be a Game 7 before Game 6 is played? That's what I said to my wife.

[Dan LeBatard]

I go fair.

[Mike Ryan]

How would I know? I like, I can't predict the future. This is a coincidence. All right? And then we get home. Got home in time for like the start of the second quarter. I mean, what a night. The Celtics, they cough up the 3 1.

[Dave Danishek]

Wait a second, wait a second. You were on Friday when we yapped, you were very excited about Devil Wears Prada.

[Amin Elhassan]

How about.

[Dave Danishek]

How about a quick 10 second review?

[Mike Ryan]

I enjoyed it very much. Not as good as the first one, but how can you expect it to be as good as the first one? I loved it. Laughed throughout the movie. Anne Hathaway looks great. Of course. Miranda Priestley, I mean, come on running. She is. She didn't charge that magazine. She's never going anywhere. All right. Miranda Love. I loved it. I love. Emily Blunt looks great. All the characters in the first one, they're all back in it.

[Dave Danishek]

All right. I just didn't know. So this, that wasn't the highlight? No, that was just the warmup for the main event.

[Mike Ryan]

Absolutely. The main.

[Greg Cote]

We praise the way they look as

[Jeremy]

opposed to their acting.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it's a movie.

[Greg Cote]

First and foremost. First and foremost, they look great. What are these guys talking?

[Mike Ryan]

It's a movie.

[Amin Elhassan]

What are we about?

[Mike Ryan]

Fashion chicks were hot. The movie is about pretty people. That's what the movie is.

[Greg Cote]

They looked hot chicks, man.

[Mike Ryan]

So we get home.

[Dave Danishek]

His comment on the performance. Emily Blunt looks great.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, she looked great. So great.

[Jeremy]

Don't forget Anna Hathaway.

[Mike Ryan]

A great looking girl. So is Anna look great girl. Great looking girl.

[Greg Cote]

Call them girls.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right. And I'll tell you, Meryl Streep.

[Dave Danishek]

She's a brassy broad.

[Mike Ryan]

No one better than Meryl Streep. Everybody knows that.

[Dave Danishek]

She look great.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, she's like a babe. She's Meryl Streep. I mean, you know Meryl Streep. What do you say? It's a great movie.

[Greg Cote]

Any new babes?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no, no. I just want the disappointing. I only want the old characters. Do you want me to tell you Stanley Tucci was handsome? He was handsome.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, he's a fraud.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Amin Elhassan]

I tried to steal Anthony Bourdain's whole lane, man. Nobody cares.

[Scott Jennings]

It was a pandemic. Relax, it was the pandemic.

[Greg Cote]

We all needed something, okay?

[Scott Jennings]

I love Stanley Tucci.

[Mike Ryan]

I've.

[Scott Jennings]

I've sat idle behind all the time. I'm going to say it now. He did a great job on Italy. He did a great job.

[Jeremy]

You and I park our cars in the same garage, my friend.

[Scott Jennings]

No, we don't. I use that in a different tent and I don't like it.

[Amin Elhassan]

What the hell?

[Scott Jennings]

Dave uses it in the tents that I don't like. So I am a non parker in any of your garages.

[Greg Cote]

I don't like it either.

[Dave Danishek]

I've never seen this before. Tashay. What a slap in the face. I've never heard like trying to park your car in the garage figuratively with a pal and getting stiff armed as a garage.

[Greg Cote]

The single car.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, it's.

[Jeremy]

Wonder why he's more offended by me than if.

[Amin Elhassan]

If you were Zaz, you'd be doing the street parking and then watching someone else park into you.

[Scott Jennings]

Correct. Which is why that garage door solid

[Greg Cote]

10 seconds on Devil wears Prada too.

[Dave Danishek]

Look great.

[Mike Ryan]

So I get home and now it's time for the main event. And boy, did the main event come through. I mean the Celtics, they were so bad. You missing threes. Shoot some more. I mean that performance by the Boston Celtics. Chef's kiss. All right. Beautiful way for the season to end. And can I tell you something I don't want to hear from the Celtics fan, all right? This whole all season long. Oh, this was supposed to be a gap year. This is a gap year like and the bragging the whole year. Gap year, gap year. Guess what? You can't then now call it a gap year. All right? When you choke away when you blow a 31 lead to the number seven seed. All right. Can't expectations change. I don't want to hear about agapia. You blew it.

[Dave Danishek]

Listen, you're not an empty vessel. You're rich and full but that vessel is full of hate and nothing but. Why? I texted you and Mike Ryan over the weekend because it was clear from both of you, nay, from everybody within these four walls over the weekend. Why do you hate Boston so much? What, what is the root? It's not like, ah, we've had some, we've had some tough series over the years against them in various sports and Tom Brady kind of had his way with us more often than not and it's all yielded this reality. But you guys hate.

[Greg Cote]

Yup, Boss.

[Mike Ryan]

Hate him.

[Dave Danishek]

What gives?

[Greg Cote]

Yeah, well, you want to take the first shot at it?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean we, we do have a huge rivalry there. Like we've had battles with them. So if we want to stick to just in basketball terms, yes, we have had nasty battles with them. I mean that, it really is as simple as that for me. I hate their guts. I hated them from 2010 to 2014, where the Heat owned them all of those years routinely sent Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett and Rajan Rondo's stupid face home for the end of the season. And then of course the rivalry resumes in the 2000 and 20s. 2020, 22, 23, 24. It's a team that we face every single year.

[Greg Cote]

And it, it's not just me. I'm stuck on basketball, hockey. The Bruins and the Panthers have had some really passionate series. I mean you can date this one back to Hill Flutie. Boston and Miami have this really angry

[Dave Danishek]

rivalry that was Mike Ryan. It's funny cuz I'm old and I remember when they were both independent football teams. College football in the age of independent, when it was powerhouses filled, that Penn State, Pitt, Army, Navy weren't powerhouses. Rutgers, Temple, Syracuse and B.C. and Miami really emerged and really broke things up. It can't go back to that though. The, the Hail Mary from Fluty.

[Greg Cote]

It always bothered me. I wasn't even alive when it happened and I, I, it pisses me off every time I see a highlight of it. I think you mentioned the Patriots and Dolphins somewhat, but on the, on the totem pole of like the, the boss in my rivalry, it's pretty low.

[Amin Elhassan]

So I've always been under the impression as an outsider that it got ratcheted up extremely with Pat Riley because Pat Riley hates the Celtics from when he was the Lakers head coach.

[Mike Ryan]

But we only started to get that around 2010. Like it, like Riley got here in 95. And yes, there's a massive hatred with Riley in Boston and vice versa, but that was never a thing here.

[Greg Cote]

Like we're tied to the Knicks.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. We immediately inherited the Knicks rivalry, the. The Celtics and Riley and Danny angel should shut the up. Like, like that didn't happen until like,

[Dave Danishek]

settle down, Scott Jennings, because come on,

[Mike Ryan]

man, like, whatever year that was, I don't remember exactly.

[Unknown Guest]

Well.

[Jeremy]

And for me, like, that's why I, I don't really have strong feelings. I'm agnostic about the Knicks because for me, in, in my lifetime, the Knicks have been, until literally right now, totally irrelevant.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

And the Celtics. When I was in high school, it's the big three era of the Celtics win and then the big three era of the Heat assembles and just wipes the floor with them over and over again. And then they're still talking and talking and talking and talking. And then they approach 2020 with talking and talking and talking about this great team they've assembled and then bam. Stuffs them at the rim and we know the rest of everything from there. There are a bunch of front running chokers. Like, that's who they are. That's what Boston is like. They have their one. They have their one. No, that's what Boston is. That's what the Boston Celtics franchise is. Yeah, the Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics are a bunch of front runners. This team only knows how to win when they have a giant lead. When they're beating up on teams in series. This is the, in four years that they've lost a series where they were giant favorites. They lost to the Heat, they lost to the Knicks. Now they lost here. This team beat a bunch of teams that didn't have their superstar, they front run Tatum and Brown. Missoula as a coach makes no adjustment to say, go out there, be more talented, shoot more threes. It's ridiculous what, what Boston has done to assemble this type of reputation that they have. I can't understand it for the life of me when all they are is a bunch of front running chokers.

[Amin Elhassan]

It keeps getting worse. They lost it in conference finals to the Heat, then they won a title. Then they lost to the Knicks in the second round.

[Jeremy]

That's right.

[Amin Elhassan]

Now it's the first round. What's next? They missed the whole thing.

[Jeremy]

They might miss the whole thing. Just, hey, look, they blew more 31 leads this year than the Miami Heat did, I'll tell you that. And they won the same amount of playoff series.

[Greg Cote]

There's a lot of things that bother me about the Boston sports fan. One of the things is they, they approach every conversation from a sports fandom superiority complex because they won A bunch of titles back before anybody was alive.

[Mike Ryan]

There's eight teams in the league.

[Dave Danishek]

I think that's a really fair point. And you can really indict the Montreal Canadiens with the same thing, too, right?

[Greg Cote]

I mean, in my lifetime, the Miami Heat are a more prestigious franchise.

[Mike Ryan]

The Miami Heat have won more titles.

[Dave Danishek]

Holy hell. Now you're getting crazy.

[Amin Elhassan]

You get in your lane. Damoshek.

[Dave Danishek]

I don't know if you're right. That just hits my ears. A wild statement.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let me explain why. Let me give you the reason why. I've been on this mission for years now. Hey, Dave Danishek. Who's won the most Super Bowls?

[Dave Danishek]

Tom Brady.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, as a franchise.

[Dave Danishek]

Tom Brady's the Patriots.

[Amin Elhassan]

Patriots. Okay.

[Greg Cote]

Steelers and.

[Dave Danishek]

Right.

[Unknown Guest]

Go ahead.

[Mike Ryan]

Sure, sure.

[Amin Elhassan]

Pittsburgh Steelers. All right. What if I ask you who's won the most NFL championships? Nobody knows that off the top of their head.

[Mike Ryan]

Packers.

[Amin Elhassan]

Nobody knows it off the top of their head.

[Dave Danishek]

You know why?

[Greg Cote]

Because Cleveland Browns can claim one of those.

[Amin Elhassan]

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[Greg Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Greg Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

Look at this face while I tell this to you, okay? Because I don't want there to be any kind of confusion. You look me right in the eye. Panthers could take that ass, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Amin Elhassan]

Modern NFL history starts with the merger. Starts with Super Bowl.

[Dave Danishek]

I think it's right. I think precedes the actual merger. I always say Super Bowl Pro football history becomes relevant when the super bowl era begins. Yes, there are different markers, but for different sports. I don't think you count in the NHL, original six doesn't count. 67 is the start of the clock.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'll take your word for it when it comes to the NHL, but when it comes to the NBA, Dave, Danielle, we had a time when the best players in basketball were not playing in the NBA. They were playing in another league that the NBA didn't respect. They looked down on their nose. Oh, look at them with all their Negroes playing basketball the way they want to, like as a playground. And they're colorful. Basketball. And what is that gimmicky line they have on the floor? They looked down at the aba, but then when they played ABA versus NBA All Star Games, guess who was winning? ABA was. And when they had the merger and you look at that first All Star game, the majority of the players were what? They weren't NBA players. They weren't establishment. They were the ABA players. And when you look at basketball from 1960, mid-60s, 67, right when that merger was. And you watch ABA basketball and you watch NBA basketball, you tell me which one looks more like basketball today, we would all say the aba. That's what basketball looks like. What's that robotic crazy thing? And yet we're going to sit here and count 11 championships played in that Old clunky style. But if we take it from the merger, when basketball became basketball like we know it and love it, all of a sudden the Celtics have. They got three with Bird and Parish and McHale. They've got one with Paul Pierce, and they've got one with Jayson Tatum.

[Jeremy]

Underachievers, five titles.

[Amin Elhassan]

Meanwhile, the Miami Heat. Damn.

[Greg Cote]

I think we have three.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, never mind.

[Greg Cote]

No, we have three, but we've been. No, no, no. We have three, but I think we've been in seven. Seven finals. Like, it's not even close in terms

[Mike Ryan]

of, like the Celtics have been a four since.

[Scott Jennings]

It also starts with the, with the inception of the heat, right in 89,

[Amin Elhassan]

you can't be on a whole point

[Dave Danishek]

that's 84, 86, 88.

[Greg Cote]

Like, oh, yeah, can't win the championships before your existence. But fair at the, at the heart of this issue. I mean, we can't ignore it there, the racism angle. It's true. Like, we can use coded language like better sports fan, which is a trope that I think if you pull back some of the layers. And I want to be very clear, not everybody from Boston is a racist. I understand that. I understand that.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not a hundred percent.

[Greg Cote]

It's not 100%. Just like not everybody from Florida is a meth head. But there are certain stereotypes that come with a track record and you have to kind of acknowledge it. And the same way that there is race trafficking with a white Irish heavyweight contender against a minority challenger like it. That's a part of this. You cannot ignore it.

[Dave Danishek]

What are you talking about? Jerry Cooney versus Larry Holmes. When they made that fight, Jerry Cooney was over matched. I agree. I mean, I don't know if that's a separate conversation or. I guess you've. You've neatly tied it into this, right? The clock starts in the NBA, in my head, at least, right after the merger, when Bird and Jordan arrive. I mean, when Bird and Magic arrived. Some of you say about 79, 76,

[Amin Elhassan]

77 is the first year post merger, which means, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, if you're keeping track at home, John Havlicek. Zero titles in my book since the Heat have existed.

[Jeremy]

They have more titles than Boston does, period.

[Mike Ryan]

Three, two.

[Jeremy]

And they had this incredible historic team that Paul Pierce tries to put in perspective with the Miami Heat. They don't even like, come close to what the Miami Heat were in their big three era. They weren't close. They were underachievers. They won once. And now you have a Team that's spiraling, that was bragging about their genius young coach who they're trying to make. Oh my God. He's got four 50 win seasons in four years. And Spo has 450 win seasons in 18 years. How about the fact that Joe Missoula has three series losses with home court advantage in three years?

[Mike Ryan]

He's lost to a seven seed and an eight seed.

[Jeremy]

Only done that twice in 14 years. It doesn't happen. They're, they're underachievers. Their talent is paramount. Always. Every time everybody's telling us how incredible Tatum and Brown are. And yeah, you have this gap here, but oh my God, look at these fines. Look how great Peyton Pritchard is. He's so talented. He's a lead guy. He's a really good player. That's the point.

[Greg Cote]

You have all of this talent, really loves him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, guys, to be fair, when you have the opportunity to close out a series at home in a game seven, you got to start three guys who have barely played all year long, right? And just to get a different look. Oh my God, guy, the idea, I, you know, we did our post game reaction and like we roasted him. And I was like, okay, now, now for the rest of the media landscape to eviscerate this guy. And nobody, I'm like, how was this not. I went back and watched the press conference. I'm like, what? They didn't just like keep asking him? No, no, but how much pushback did you get from your staff, from Brad Stevens, from your players? You started Ron Harper Jr. In an elimination game because you want to try a different look. What the hell? This is a game 74. This is a goddamn NBA playoffs.

[Greg Cote]

Another thing that bothers me about the whole Boston Miami rivalry is. I mean, there are huge influential sports voices that come out of Boston that kind of dictate a narrative. And I think we're kind of seeing

[Dave Danishek]

that Mike who There's not. You can't even name Mike who you

[Greg Cote]

talking about the sports guy who. Look, I go to Simmons because I want to drink his tears. I think he is a national tastemaker. The Northeast influence over sports is irrefutable. And I think maybe the Boston's control of it is a little outsized. And I say that as part of a very pro Miami media empire down here where we try our best to counter that. But look, it's true. They dominate the conversation here. And something is missing from the national narrative today when I turn on the TVs, they should be absolutely flaming the Boston Celtics. This is a great.

[Mike Ryan]

There's time for that.

[Greg Cote]

It's.

[Mike Ryan]

It's very. It's only 9am it should have been wall to wall.

[Greg Cote]

This is a historic embarrassment. They lost Paul George in first time

[Mike Ryan]

they've ever lost a 31 lead.

[Greg Cote]

And it wasn't 2019 when they lost a Joel Embiid and Paul George. It was 2026. They blew a 3:1 lead franchise with guys at the heart of it that are the ones known for choking.

[Amin Elhassan]

It kind of reminds me of Casualties of War with Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn and a scene in the courtroom where Sean Penn's walking on. He whispers into Michael J. Fox's ear, you're a television actor.

[Dave Danishek]

I don't know whose voice that is, but I have a long standing. I have a long standing called the Ewing theory. And my Ewing theory asks this question that what are we talking about? With how much pride are you supposed to have as a Sixers fan right now? They didn't have Jason Tatum. He's their best player.

[Mike Ryan]

Who gives a sh.

[Jeremy]

They're better without him.

[Mike Ryan]

Who gives a shit? Yeah, if you're a Sixer fan, they

[Amin Elhassan]

were better without him all year.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no. It doesn't matter. You'll. I. If I'm a Sixer fan, I would laugh in anyone's face who brought up. You didn't have Jason tatum in Game 7. The same way that as a Heat fan, if you want to talk about 20, 23 and them not having Jason Tatum in game seven, I'll laugh in your face there, too.

[Jeremy]

Look, the Sixers knew that not having Jayson Tatum was going to be to their benefit.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Jeremy]

But they thought it was going to be more difficult.

[Dave Danishek]

I have two things. Go ahead.

[Jeremy]

They thought it was going to be more difficult without Jayson Tatum.

[Unknown Guest]

Once we found out that JT was out, honestly, we felt like the game was going to be even harder. We knew that they were going to come out there and play free, open minded. Like D. White shot the ball 26 times. They shot 16 threes. He wasn't even thinking about anything. You know what I'm saying? And you know, some of those were going to go in and they did. You know, we knew it was going to be difficult. We didn't think it was. As soon as I found out, I told Joel, like, it's not going to get easier. It's going to definitely be harder.

[Jeremy]

That's our best player, Tyrese Maxey.

[Greg Cote]

And I think, like, if you're going to do the. We didn't have Tatum Thing that's awfully convenient for a franchise. As we've highlighted, when they won their championship against Dallas, they ran into a team that had lost a superstar every round on that march. So miss me with that bit of context and given what we were saying about.

[Dave Danishek]

I haven't heard a Boston fan say that, by the way.

[Jeremy]

I'm just.

[Greg Cote]

Why would. They would never say. Why would they diminish their own accomplishments? And I think Amin is right. When the history of basketball won't really remember that. And I know we're only a couple years removed from it, but it was pretty spectacular. I mean, we haven't really seen that. And maybe it's because I hate Boston so much. I'm not going to let them forget that. I think that's an important bit of context. So much so that I still think despite winning a championship, this core group of Boston Celtics hasn't really shown that they can pull together and overcome true adversity. And I think we saw that on Saturday night.

[Amin Elhassan]

You know what's funny? You're saying this core group and I'm saying I'm not putting this on the players. I think they did their darndest. They play hard, they're good. Their player development program is excellent. How many guys that we thought were scrubs ended up being rotation players? Like for instance, Keita? Wow, this guy was barely playing a couple years ago and now he's a starting center. Except in game seven, Game seven of the playoffs. You're going to start Luka Garza. Why are we not killing Joe Missoula? He's trying to be. I'm smart. I think outside the box. You guys use your laptops like this. This is how I use my laptop. And it goes straight to my brain faster. Also, I'm empty on the inside. That's what makes me a great coach. And we just smile and nod and say, oh, there goes crazy Joe Missoula. When absolutely he should have been front and center on every show. This dude should have been fired at halftime. No quarter break, first quarter break.

[Mike Ryan]

There's so much smartest guy in the room when it comes to Joe Missoula. I, I'm not over it. I'm not so over him. I've been so over Joe Missoula. And like, how about this? Imagine this. You just blew a three games to one lead for the first time in the history of the franchise to a team who you hadn't lost to in the playoffs since 1982. Another team who you have, who has never overcome a 3:1 deficit. And a player in Joel Embiid who has never won a Game seven. And here's Joe Missoula after the game giving you this garbage.

[Unknown Guest]

And a lot of times in the world today, it's an either or society. But there's a duality to everything. And you know, the year we won, I felt just as empty as we did when we lost. And the duality of going after something bigger than yourself with a group of people is you're always going to have there's two sides to every coin and you have to when you go after greatness, you have to accept the other side of that. And too many times, you know, it's all about winning, winning, winning. But you have to surrender to the idea of you're going to, you're going to when you're going after that, you're going to fail. And you know, we've failed by not winning, but we stick to the process of being able to do that. But I think that's just kind of the duality of how things work. It's not an either or thing, it's both. And you feel both of those, those things, you know.

[Mike Ryan]

Q Imagine you're a fan. Your season just ended, you blew a three games in, one lead and you got to listen that mumbo jumbo bullshit.

[Amin Elhassan]

No Zaz, he's so much smarter and better than us. There's no better feeling than losing a game 7 at home after you were up 3 1. It's in fact feels exactly the same as winning an NBA championship.

[Dave Danishek]

He never describes the good side. It's he's like, it's not an either or. When's the good side? I I I felt just as empty when we won the title. When do you feel good? Exactly, fella?

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[Dave Danishek]

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[Greg Cote]

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[Chris]

we're confident against the lighting. This is a different team. You're a Panther Group chat no, no. I think there's no but, dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning st.

[Amin Elhassan]

I want T shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run?

[Mike Ryan]

Our Panther group chat.

[Amin Elhassan]

We're not afraid of the lightning.

[Greg Cote]

That's a Tagline for World Raw 3.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dave Danishek]

By the way, I like what ifing stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

So is the.

[Dave Danishek]

Is the grand what if. If you're a Celtics fan is what if the Udoko off the court stuff never happened?

[Amin Elhassan]

Udoka. That's a fine but yes. What if he keeps it in his pants?

[Dave Danishek]

I deserve it.

[Amin Elhassan]

But if he park his car in that garage.

[Dave Danishek]

If you go back, they have two titles right now, right? Two, three titles.

[Greg Cote]

No, I don't know about that.

[Scott Jennings]

Like, what has he done in Houston with an equally good team over in Houston?

[Greg Cote]

Obviously the west is better. I think he's done a good job in Houston.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I would say equally as good. Look, this is the beauty of sports, right? It's not like all I needed to do was add some sugar and then all of a sudden the recipe ends up being great. There are so many moving variables, not the least of which is IME is a very, very, very demanding guy. And so how would those guys respond? Maybe they Needed a Joe Missoula who just comes in with crazy ideas and does somersaults. Literally, I'm not making that up. Somersaults into the locker room and telling players, I bet you can't do that. Like, maybe they needed a goofball to just kind of like experiment and all those things while they would just go out and play. The problem, the problem is when the goofball has an idea like, I got it. Let me start three of my scrubs in game seven. They'll never see it in the NBA playoffs.

[Mike Ryan]

They'll never see it coming.

[Greg Cote]

And again, the Tatum injury stuff is lame. Number one, they had opportunities to close out this series with him on the court. And your argument is against the Philadelphia 76ers, who are perpetually injured, consistently diminished.

[Dave Danishek]

Right.

[Amin Elhassan]

They lost to them in seven a couple years ago where Embiid was hurt and Harden was hurt and all that stuff. And everyone, all everyone said is Harden choked in that series. He had a 40 point game to save off elimination in that series. But we never talk about it. We never talk about the injuries. Like, well, you guys lost. That's all that matters.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, that's not the only lame stuff coming from after the Celtics choke on Saturday night. How about not even immediately after the game, 24 hours to digest what took place. Yeah, your star player, Jalen Bree, Jalen Brown, I don't know, he's playing video games on like a stream or something. I don't know what's going on there, but he's on one of those live streams. And here he'll. He'll tell you a little bit about Joel Embiid's game.

[Unknown Caller]

I mean, this is my personal opinion on basketball. Some of y' all might disagree, you know what I mean? But argue with your grandma. Flopping has ruined our game. Jordan Bead is a great player. One of the best bigs in basketball history.

[Mike Ryan]

Flops.

[Unknown Caller]

He know it. This ain't. This ain't breaking news. The same. You know what I mean? It is what it is. I can clip it up. Like I said, y' all can post it on these paid accounts that y', all, these bot. Whatever. That's just my opinion.

[Amin Elhassan]

The worst thing that happened in the game was streaming these guys getting on a microphone and a camera after the game and just say, because they say, oh, this way I own the message. And it's da, da, da, da, da. No, that's not why. You want a forum where you can say anything and no one's going to push back on you because he knows if he had gone that far. I know he mentioned it in passing in his post game presser, but if he goes into length like he did there, there's a room full of people like, what are you talking about? You blew a 31 lead.

[Greg Cote]

That's embarrassing.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's.

[Greg Cote]

It's embarrassing. I like Jaylen Brown. I think he's proven on that roster that he's a dog, right? That's just such a bad. Look. You blew a 31 lead and you're out there talking about Joel Embiid flopping. I just, Just shut up. Like, just, just eat the L. It's

[Scott Jennings]

just a byproduct of why this Celtics team is so weird, right from top to bottom. You have Brad Stevens, who didn't want to be the coach, who wants to be the gm and then you got Joe Missoula who's doing, you know, starting Baylor scheireman, Ron Harper Jr. And, and Luca Garza. And then you have your best player who is out but has like identity issues in the sense of like, he's not his own guy, right? Like, he kind of takes from a lot of other people in Jason Tatum. And you got Jaylen Brown, who had his best year ever, arguably as far as a one lead guy. And then he goes out and does this. It's like, do we have a normal person in the building?

[Mike Ryan]

It's not the only excuse that Jaylen Brown was making 24 hours after losing the game and blowing a 31 series lead, Jaylen Brown also thinks the games are rigged.

[Unknown Caller]

If I had to like, say there's. There's some referees that need to be investigated. Like just overall at an auto officiating. We had three of them in the last three games. We had, you know, at top of

[Greg Cote]

my list, you were up 31 against the Sixers, who are a punchline with playoff P. And Joel Embiid. And Joel Embiid. Great game. I think, like what, 30, 10 and 5 in an elimination game. That's insane. That, that's. But he was doing the bullshit. I mean, he started stretching it out. He was, he was hurt. He came back in that game. He was clearly diminished. And we mentioned it on the live stream on Saturday night, the Sixers were doing the things down the stretch that would make you worried they were going to throw it up. Right? And Maxey came to their rescue. It had to be Maxey that got it done.

[Amin Elhassan]

Hey, you know what I was wondering? Did the refs tell the Celtics illegal to be inside the three point line? You must only Shoot threes, and that's all you can do. And if you step. If you dare step inside this three point line, I will whistle you for a foul, two fouls, a technical foul, I don't know, but I'll whistle something. And the Celtics say, oh, my God, it's not fair. They get to go inside, but we only get to shoot threes. That's what the refs did.

[Greg Cote]

And don't forget the challenge from Joe Mazzulla.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, yeah, and when we foul a guy, we gotta. We gotta tell, man, that challenge still is blowing my mind. But, guys, I just wanna say this because I've said this to Joe Dumars before. He's no longer the czar of discipline in the NBA. Now it's James Jones.

[Mike Ryan]

He's now giving away unprotected first round picks.

[Amin Elhassan]

I want. Where's James? James Jones. Here's my camera here. James. Whenever these guys come out here and start talking that, oh, it's rigged. Oh, these guys need to be investigated. You put the people's elbow on.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right. James.

[Amin Elhassan]

They should put him under the jail.

[Mike Ryan]

James Jones. I'll tell him. I grew up with him. I'll tell him. Yeah, yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Where at?

[Mike Ryan]

Stable Palm elementary, dog.

[Amin Elhassan]

I. I was. Did he go to Santa Fe with you?

[Mike Ryan]

But I'll text James Jones right now. He'll run me back right away.

[Amin Elhassan]

We let him know.

[Mike Ryan]

I will let him know. Tell him that's my dog. James Jones.

[Amin Elhassan]

Say, hey, people's elbow based.

[Scott Jennings]

Based on what Mike said on the 30, 10 and 5 game, we got a Saturday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Start of the day, Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day.

[Scott Jennings]

Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey are the first duo in playoff history to go for 30, 10, and five in a game seven ever.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Scott Jennings]

Nobody else has had 30, 10, and five as a duo outside of James.

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[Scott Jennings]

I mean, James Jones on mine instead of Tyrese Maxey and Joel Embiid.

[Chris]

I don't believe he would text you back right away.

[Mike Ryan]

He's my guy.

[Dave Danishek]

I'd love to see it. I agree with Amin. Put the elbow on him. I don't like this. And by the way, Jaylen Brown, go. Go ahead and explain the math on why it benefits the NBA for the Celtics to go out. Why? Why. Why would it not be Beneficial for the. It's better for the Sixers somehow for the NBA for them to advance to the second round than Boston. It's ridiculous.

[Mike Ryan]

You know what's good for our league from those storied franchise to be eliminated immediately.

[Dave Danishek]

Now listen. Right, exactly. By the way, the most storied franchise thing, that's another thing that I am mean and I, I must say, park our cars in the same garage.

[Greg Cote]

John.

[Dave Danishek]

Yes, the Youngs tend to bend the knee with the recency bias a little too easily, but the olds genuflect to history. That really is mostly a mirage. Bill Russell titles. I'm not invalidating all of it. Also, the skill set of Bill Russell is not transferable to the modern game.

[Greg Cote]

What do you think you think about

[Dave Danishek]

Shaq would struggle against Bill Russell? If you believe that, then you really are a crazy old fool. But also their series, their titles for Bill Russell, Celtics that include best of five series. There's a best of three series somewhere in the mix. Somewhere in there. The standard's just completely different. It's hard to even count it the same as you do a modern title.

[Amin Elhassan]

Dave, I will refuse to join you in disparaging the great Bill Russell or any of those great players, those pioneers. The pioneers who built the game. All I say is thank you for your service and get back to that box in the attic. As we talk about real championships that are won with a Larry o' Brien trophy, not that weird thing they used to put up back in the day.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to get back to all this. It's very, very exciting. What a weekend I had. Oh, my God. The hate watching was in full effect and I, I was, I was hitting the jackpot every single night. All right, But I don't know if you saw this over the weekend. Chris. The new Miami Dolphins quarterback, he's called Malik Willis.

[Unknown Caller]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

He threw the first pitch.

[Chris]

People are freaking out.

[Mike Ryan]

Says he threw. Did you see us? He threw the first pitch at the Marlins game over the weekend. And here he is. From the rubber. That's what you got to do. From the rubber.

[Amin Elhassan]

Whoa.

[Chris]

He threw it about, I'd say six feet over where the right handed batter would have been standing.

[Mike Ryan]

You're being generous now.

[Amin Elhassan]

What if the ball had been egg shaped? I think he would have thrown it better.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he threw it behind where the batter would like, like the catcher would have been able to catch it if he was seven feet tall and he was standing at the backstop.

[Greg Cote]

The set suggests he's much better from further out.

[Chris]

Yeah. Dolphins Fans are freaking out. The Internet's having fun with this. I want to make everyone feel a little better. I have some examples here of other quarterbacks who have gone on to be good. We got Patrick Mahomes, for example, throwing out a first pitch, doing the same exact thing.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, he's, he's bad. He's leading his guy.

[Chris]

Mahomes was a baseball player too.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, that. Oh, so that's really.

[Jeremy]

No, but that's gas.

[Greg Cote]

I mean's right. He's leading the receiver.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a good quarterback.

[Chris]

But then we have Joe Burrow here. This is not a first pitch, but this is just him throwing a baseball. He's aiming for this white thing and he just can't do it. Oh, like, it's just terrible. He's missing way left. Can't get it.

[Mike Ryan]

And it's, it looks like he's gripping the ball with all five fingers too.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, look at his form. He looks like he's trying to throw football. These guys are football players. What are we doing here?

[Chris]

And then this. It just makes me feel better. Guys, everyone relax. Take a deep breath. Dolphin fans. It means nothing.

[Mike Ryan]

Dave, you know about throwing that ball with just your, your first two fingers in your thumb.

[Dave Danishek]

I do know about it. And John Elway perhaps did it better than anyone. The, the, the multi sport athlete, the throwing thing. In fact, as a scientist a couple of years ago, I organized exactly this sort of thing. I had David Carr, high end quarterback, and Cole Wright, former minor league pitcher, see who could throw a football better and a baseball better. We need to organize another one of those kind of things because it really is fascinating that you can't do both.

[Greg Cote]

Mike Ryan, how are you not talking about those Cavs?

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