Showing Tyler Herro The Proper Appreciation | Local Hour

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – "Showing Tyler Herro The Proper Appreciation | Local Hour"

Date: June 24, 2026
Episode Overview:
Recorded at the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, today’s “Local Hour” is led by Dominique Foxworth in Dan’s absence, joined by Roy Bellamy, Tony Collater, Chris Cote, Jonathan Sasso, Jeremy Fowler, Greg Cody, and others. The crew gives their freewheeling take on the South Florida sports scene, the NBA and NHL offseason drama, the art of roster-building, and, most centrally, offers overdue respect for departing Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro.

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Main Theme

The episode’s core focus is appreciating what Tyler Herro meant to the Miami Heat organization as he departs amid the blockbuster Giannis Antetokounmpo trade. The crew explores Herro’s career, the way fan and franchise expectations shaped his legacy, and compares his place in Miami sports lore. The show also touches on the high-stakes negotiations facing the Florida Panthers post-Stanley Cup, and the quirks of NBA and NHL roster management in general.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miami's Championship High Jumps...And Mixed Moods

Timestamps: 02:47–06:54

• Dominique sets the scene coming off massive sports moments—Brady Tkachuk’s Stanley Cup heroics and the Heat’s Giannis trade—while the Dolphins and Marlins underwhelm in the news cycle.
• Dominique Foxworth: “Monday we get to celebrate Brady and Tuesday we get to celebrate Giannis… Dolphins, Marlins... major missed opportunity.” (04:05)
• Highlights how rare and game-changing acquiring a superstar is in basketball compared to other sports (football/baseball/hockey).

2. Pat Riley’s Reputation Across Generations

Timestamps: 08:01–10:59

• Dominique tells of debating Pat Riley’s legacy with his sons, contrasting the respect from old guard Heat fans with younger fans who don’t recall “Showtime” or the LeBron years.
• Dominique Foxworth: “It bothers me that my boys don't know… this is the man… this guy has done for this city…” (09:03)
• The generational disconnect: how title windows and front-office myth perspectives can change quickly—especially for teenage fans who missed key Heat eras.

3. Salary Cap Gymnastics: Florida Panthers & Sergei Bobrovsky

Timestamps: 17:01–26:49

• Sasso breaks down Panthers’ salary cap crunch post-Cup; Bobrovsky’s rumored $14M/year ask is a nonstarter—and a source of banter about leverage and loyalty.
• Dominique Foxworth: “Can you come off the worst year of your career, you're 38 years old and ask for a raise?” (19:02)
• Roy Bellamy: “It’s about how much leverage you have. What other options do they have?” (19:08)

The “Lev” Bit

Running joke about who “has the lev”—the leverage/power in contract negotiations or in life—and how it feels in the locker room and at ESPN.

• Roy Bellamy (on himself): “I work at ESPN. I don't got no lev.” (23:12)
• On Bobrovsky: “Is he owed a golden parachute or does he owe the Panthers for making his career?” (24:37)

4. Honoring Tyler Herro – The Proper Appreciation

Timestamps: 30:04–37:36

• Dominique leads a segment to properly appreciate Tyler Herro’s Miami run, often overlooked because he wasn’t a “superstar” or title centerpiece.
• Dominique Foxworth: “Every offseason, Tyler Herro’s name is mentioned… and what does this guy do? Never complained. Got better every year.” (30:44)
• Tyler’s longevity: “That’s a lot longer than LeBron… than Tim Hardaway… about the same as Chris Bosh.” (31:35)
• The group compares Herro to Heat legends, agreeing he’s a “deep bench guy” on the all-time Miami roster but a “model teammate” and key trade asset.

The All-Time Heat Roster Debate

• Bench roster: Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Shaq, Tim Hardaway, Zo, Jimmy Butler, Udonis Haslem, Goran Dragic, Bam, and Herro somewhere down the line.
• Roy Bellamy: “It’s tough to call this a Tyler Herro appreciation when you’re finding ways to keep him off the team.” (36:43)

5. NBA Draft Quirks, Trade Formalities, and Fan Anxiety

Timestamps: 37:36–41:04

• Confusion around the Heat’s draft pick for Milwaukee and how trades can get hung up pre-July 6 league year start.
• Comedic riffing on how their kids (and they themselves) can’t make sense of the “trade not official; but wear the team hat” policy.
• Dominique Foxworth: “Are you telling me there’s even the slimmest possibility the trade doesn’t actually happen because it’s not official yet?” (38:34)
• Roy Bellamy: “We make a big deal about hats, but the actual dumb part is the league year starts after the draft.” (39:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dominique Foxworth, on Herro’s composure:
  “For a guy who got a lot of crap from fans because he wasn’t what you wanted him to be, he was here for seven years... and he never, ever, ever complained.” (31:22)
• Roy Bellamy, on Pat Riley:
  “He is the Miami Heat.” (34:36)
• On the “Lev” life metaphor:
  “It’s less about feeling good and more about feeling relaxed… There’s no more relaxed feeling than—since I was 6, I wanted to get to a position where I had to get that lev.” (20:04)
• Crew, on Herro Trade Value:
  “If Tyler Herro wasn't as good as he's been for the Heat, he wouldn't have been able to be one of the main pieces for Giannis Antetokounmpo.” (33:39)

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Segment Timestamps for Key Topics

• Miami Sports Highs & Missed Opportunities: 02:47–06:54
• Pat Riley’s Generational Reputation: 08:01–10:59
• Panthers’ Salary Cap/Bobrovsky Negotiations/Lev Riff: 17:01–26:49
• Tyler Herro Proper Appreciation & All-Time Heat Roster: 30:04–37:36
• NBA Draft/Trade Formalities: 37:36–41:21

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Tone & Style

True to the show’s style, the banter is rapid-fire, irreverent, and full of friendly jabs. The crew is self-aware about rabbit holes, running bits, and the local vs. national lens. Sentimentality for Miami sports past is mixed with skepticism about present front office realities.

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Takeaways for Those Who Haven’t Listened

• The “Local Hour” is a masterclass in how sports fandom mixes nostalgia, frustration, and hope—often in the same breath.
• Tyler Herro, while never a franchise savior, is celebrated for embodying professionalism and loyalty during a turbulent Heat era—hence the need for “proper appreciation.”
• The art and agony of team-building—in both the NBA and NHL—depends as much on contract wrangling and cap maneuvering as on on-court play.
• The episode is peppered with comedic bits—like the “Lev” analogy—and caring jests about the quirks of following sports trades and drafts with close family.
• For Miami fans, the message is: Golden eras are rare, and when the city gets a star or a loyal soldier like Herro, it’s worth taking a moment to appreciate—even as you look to the next big thing.

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Transcript

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[Dominique Foxworth]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Roy Bellamy]

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[Roy Bellamy]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Roy Bellamy]

Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow. Come on, guys. Shadows.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What are you doing, man?

[Tony Collater]

I can see you live, man.

[Dominique Foxworth]

This. This isn't like we're not. This isn't. This is me. This is. I open the show. Dan's not here today, so I'm in the big chair. This. No, this is not the Shadow show.

[Jonathan Sasso]

You're late.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Stop it. This is not the Shadow Show. All right, good morning, everyone. Look at this crew we got here today. We got Dominique here. He's hanging out the entire week. We got Roy, we got Tony, got Chris.

[Guest/Announcer]

I don't know.

[Dominique Foxworth]

This group's worked together before. All right? Actually, we haven't, but we're going to have some fun today. Uh, man, I woke up this morning, it didn't feel right. You know, I woke up on Sunday and.

[Chris Cote]

Or. Or.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Or Monday, and we get to celebrate Brady Tkachuk. And I wake up Tuesday and we get to celebrate Giannis Antetokounmpo. By the way, can everyone spell his name if I put you on the spot right now? Tony, you better learn on a Tokumbu. Best effort. Let's go onto Takounmpo. Go.

[Roy Bellamy]

A N T e k already.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Wrong. Chris.

[Tony Collater]

I spelled this yesterday.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Let's do it.

[Tony Collater]

Looked it up and spelled it yesterday. A N T E, T,

[Roy Bellamy]

O. Get him a T O, K O, U, M, P, O. Nope.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You missed the letter. Roy, you want to give it a stab?

[Jonathan Sasso]

No.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, Dominique.

[Roy Bellamy]

A N T E, T, O. And to.

[Chris Cote]

To.

[Roy Bellamy]

This is where The K's show up. Kupo. K O U M P O. Yes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

In your face.

[Roy Bellamy]

We gonna win today.

[Chris Cote]

Let's go.

[Roy Bellamy]

We gonna get a win today, boys.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What a start.

[Tony Collater]

I was one letter off right before

[Roy Bellamy]

he went, but wow, six letters after that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Great job. So Monday we get to celebrate Brady and Tuesday we get to celebrate Giannis. Dolphins, Marlins. You gonna do shit. That's it. The streak ends at 2. You let it just sit out there. We got nothing else to get excited about today. Why couldn't. You were up. You could have done something huge. Marlins, Dolphins. Major missed opportunity.

[Roy Bellamy]

Dolphins got a defensive piece or something. I mean, I don't know about the Marlins. I feel like the Marlins. You're asking for a lot. They're on this hot streak right now.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, they won again last night.

[Roy Bellamy]

They don't want to mess up the mojo they got going right now. But the Dolphins, they need some mojo. They send the people, not bringing people in.

[Tony Collater]

What is the hypothetical Dominique football player that would have equal, like, equaled the excitement in this market that we got the last two days?

[Roy Bellamy]

They missed it. They missed the opportunity. It was Miles Garrett. That was it. Like a defense, a monster on defense that can change your team defensively. That's the most Giannis related trade that could have gotten done. Who's an aging guy towards the end of his career who could really impact your team, particularly on that side of the ball? They missed it.

[Tony Collater]

Yeah. Stefan Diggs just ain't going to do it.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, go, Terps.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So Garrett's the guy. Like, he's the guy. He would have, would have been on the, you know, the equivalent of. Of what the Panthers.

[Roy Bellamy]

And he might have said, no thanks though. He might have said no thanks if, if the Rams were on the table. Yeah, I'm gonna stick it out in Cleveland.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like, did we. Did we not? Kind of like when the Dolphins traded for Tyreek Hill and that was what, five years ago?

[Tony Collater]

That was the same vibes that we got.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That was like that was the equivalent of what just happened. Right. With the Panthers and Dolphins. I think that is the equivalent.

[Roy Bellamy]

Tyreek Hill was a monster. But it's. I think when you made the trade, no one thought super bowl contender immediately. I know you guys made a little bit of a run and, and you guys reserved all of Vegas because you thought you were going to the super bowl and it didn't quite work out well.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Basketball is really the only sport unless you train for the quarterback. Yeah, basketball is the only sport where if you trade for the superstar, you can immediately become a contender. I mean, look, you can't just put Connor McDavid on any hockey team. I mean, look, Edmonton hasn't won with him. You can't just put them on any team, and all of a sudden they're Stanley cup favorite in football. Unless it's the quarterback. Like, you can't just drop Miles Garrett anywhere. Now you're a Super bowl contender. Look at the Browns, you know, and certainly in baseball. I mean, Mike Trout, who made the playoffs, what, one time can't do a baseball either.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, I think we learned from yesterday's reaction that we had and many other people had, that it doesn't work that way in basketball either. Like, you drop a superstar on the team, you're not an automatic NBA, like, Finals favorite. You become much more like. I think they're fifth now in the odds based on the way that people

[Dominique Foxworth]

look at, which I'll tell you, I think it's pretty high. I was surprised.

[Roy Bellamy]

Exactly. So, like, you get the superstar, and it doesn't mean that immediately, once you got the quarterback in basketball, so to speak, that you are a championship contender in golf.

[Tony Collater]

It works.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

You.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You can. You can have a golfer just show up and he could be the best. That's right. That's a good contribution, Chris. I was surprised where the four teams really, like, really good, you know, Dominique, star of the show, smelling out the kumpo. Correct. But you may have topped in there, Chris. That's a really good job out of you.

[Roy Bellamy]

Tennis.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So the. Yeah, like, last night we had the NBA draft. We'll get to all that. Not that exciting, you know, but. But there's. There's some fun stuff.

[Roy Bellamy]

Not that exciting.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, excited for the kids who got selected.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, exciting for the people here who live and care about the District of Columbia.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, that's true. That's true. You're a D.C. guy.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. All right.

[Roy Bellamy]

DeBonsa boy, that's a big week. We also extended Trey Young, y'.

[Chris Cote]

All.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Okay.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Good for you.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's not your money, so. It's okay, Mr. Leon.

[Tony Collater]

I'm just picturing, like, the Wizard's owner, like. All right, we made the big signing. Let me check the news. Let's see what people are saying. Brian. Winners, worst contract in the.

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[Dominique Foxworth]

That's a good point. So, yeah, we woke up this morning, didn't have something super exciting. No. You know, Brady Tkachuk, amazing. Giannis Antetokounmpo, amazing. But the Panthers are stuck in a little bit of a pickle here. All right? And We. We talked about this yesterday where Dan, like, I. I do take exception to the idea that, oh, my God, what are the Panthers going to do in goal? And it's the same thing with Pat Riley, right? Where I'm on the phone with my son yesterday, Dominique, where I finally call my older boy who's. Who's. See, this is weird, right? Because I, obviously, as a lifelong Heat fan, I've watched, you know, the team my childhood, and I certainly remember the day that Pat Riley got here. What a day. I mean, he did make me cry when he traded away Glenn Rice, but nonetheless, I eventually saw the bigger picture. And Pat Riley, to me, is just the greatest. Okay? But my. My. My boys, especially my older one who was 17, he's like this. Riley never gets anything done, you know, Never. Never gets.

[Tony Collater]

Been listening to Mike Ryan for too long.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Never gets the guy. And like, that bot. Like, it bothers me that he talks that way about Pat Riley. You got to figure my son's only 17. He's born in 2009. He doesn't even. He has no recollection of LeBron. He was five when LeBron left. You know, so in his mind, Riley never closes the deal. And I'm like, you mother effort. Do you have any idea. Do you have any idea what this guy has done for this city and the deals that he would make and. And just how. Just how cool Pat Riley is? That's my favorite part. I've been watching the Showtime Lakers the winning time, and I watch with my younger son, and I'm explaining to him I'm late. I know I'm late to the party here. I'm late in season one where Riley is still assistant coach.

[Chris Cote]

And.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But I'm explaining to my. My younger one, I'm like, you'll see soon. He's going to turn it. He's going to be the head coach soon. And, like, he's so cool. And he's gonna have the hair and the suits, you know, is.

[Roy Bellamy]

There's, like, in. That was an HBO show, if I remember correctly, about the Showtime Lakers. My guess is there's probably not. My guess. I feel like I remember there's probably a good amount of sex and nudie.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Yep.

[Roy Bellamy]

Watching that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah. A lot of nudie.

[Roy Bellamy]

A lot of nudie. So much nudie.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Good point. Okay. Because it's. I mean, they.

[Roy Bellamy]

How do you watch that with your sons? I guess that's a. It's. Having sons is different than having daughters.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Remind me to get back to the conversation that I'm having with My older son about Riley.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Whoa, Whoa, whoa, whoa. 17.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, no, no. I'm watching with the 14 year old.

[Jonathan Sasso]

I have a lot of different situation.

[Tony Collater]

I have a lot of follow ups on a lot of this. So I'm writing down questions.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Remind me to get back to the Riley part. But I'm watching Winning time with. It's a great point, Dominique, because I'm watching this with my younger son because he's really into basketball these days and he really does, admittedly doesn't know any, anything about Magic Johnson. Why would he? It's in the 80s. All right, 40 years ago. And so you make a good point. Boy, does this show make Magic look like a dog. I mean, he, he, he looks terrible in the show.

[Gambling Disclaimer Voice]

Okay?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Just, it's, there's so much women and I mean, good for him, of course, but there's, there's a lot of women and, and there's.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Does he know about Magic?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, not a little bit. And so not only are there a lot of sex scenes, but the sex scenes are graphic. Oh, right, yeah. And, you know, watching my son and you know, a couple seconds will go by in the sex scene. I'm just staring forward at the TV and he's staring forward. But then eventually after we get.

[Roy Bellamy]

You have to address it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But then eventually after like five or six seconds, we each will kind of turn to each other and we'll each have like a small little smile on our face. Then we look, we just acknowledge each other, we lock eyes for a moment and then we go back to minding our business and watching the show. There's a lot of sex in this show. So anyway, yeah. So back to Pat Riley. Okay. It bothers me that my boys don't know. They don't know that this guy, this is the man. Okay. And so I like the idea that he has landed this, you know, this whale now so they can, they can experience the heat landing that big guy and us getting to play in meaningful games again, be one of the relevant teams again. But back to my original point. So my older son is like, well, I'm worried about what they're going to do as far as filling in the other pieces. And that also brings me back to Bobrovsky here, where it's like Bill Zito and Pat Riley, they've been thinking about these trades, Bill Zito for Brady Chuck, Pat Riley for Giannis Antetokounmpo for months. For months. It's not like the trade goes through and it's like, holy shit, what do we do with the rest of the roster. Oh my God, I got it figured out. Like they have. It's all mapped out. This is plan A and this is plan B and this plan C. Like they know what they want to do. And so there is a plan for the Panthers in goal, but you have

[Roy Bellamy]

to also hold space for the idea that the plan is not going to work out. There's especially for the Heat. There's been several years stretch where it seems pretty clear that the plan that they had is didn't work out. So I think that's the nervousness. I don't think anyone thinks Pat Riley is a fool and he doesn't have an idea what's going to happen. I think he just recognizes that what he wants to happen is going to be difficult, especially in like new second apron kind of atmosphere. I I heard Windhorse say yesterday that we might be looking at a couple more cycles of the league year before this team could become what it should become. Which is very different than the feeling when did you get a superstar. It's very different than where the fifth, as far as the odds are concerned, the fifth highest team to win the championship. Like it feels so weird now to be excited about that and then look at the reality and say, damn, but we still got a ways to go. Given that the teams that win are the teams that are healthy and the teams that are deep.

[Greg Cody]

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[Greg Cody]

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?

[Jeremy Fowler]

I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Walking like this.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Jeremy Fowler]

It has that effect on people.

[Greg Cody]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Keep it cvo.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Keep it cvo, baby.

[Chris Cote]

Down. Levitar. Jonathan Sasso. Thank you. This is the Dan Levatar Show.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Well, with Phil Zito. The Panthers have $7 million left in cap space, and they still have both Creston Evan Rodriguez as potential trademate, so they can put more money in the cap space for Sergey Bobrovsky if they wanted to.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So as opposed to the NBA where it's, you know, in most instances it's a soft cap. Although the Heat, and we can get to that minutiae in a bit. The Heat are in a position where they might actually be hard capped in the NHL. It's a hard cap. All right. So there is no maneuvering around what Roy says where they have X amount of dollars. And it doesn't mean that you could resign your own player in Sergei Bobrovsky for whatever money he wants. So that brings me to what we're hearing about Sergei Bobrovsky. And like I was on Toronto radio this morning, I don't know if you know, they love hockey.

[Tony Collater]

Humble brag.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They are way into hockey there in Toronto. And so they asked me about Bobrovsky and I brought up this recent report that we heard down here actually from Dave Hyde, all time great Sun Sentinel columnist, unceremoniously was let go by the Sun Sentinel a few weeks ago. Well, he's still out there grinding apparently. All right. Because he, he, he wrote yesterday that Sergei Bobrovsky is asking for three years $42 million, which means 14 million average annual value, which would be a raise from what he had been receiving 10 million over the last seven years each he had been getting from the Panthers. And that's obviously not anything the Panthers would be able to give him. They, they laughed at me when I said that on the phone this morning. To try, like there's no way that's possible. And it doesn't seem like it's possible. You know, how can, how can Sergey Bobrovsky realistically. And I'm not saying Dave Hyde doesn't know what he's doing. He's Dave Hyde's all time great. But I don't know. I got a hard time believing he's asking for three years and 14 million per.

[Tony Collater]

He did win two cups with us. I'm just saying from him and his agent, is he not pedal to a race?

[Dominique Foxworth]

But, well, he had the worst year of his career. So that's the question.

[Tony Collater]

Can you that high note, Roy, let's go.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Can you come off the worst year of your career, you're 38 years old and ask for a raise?

[Roy Bellamy]

So I mean, of course part of it is like posturing, but also I think it gets down to negotiations and you could do this for anything. It's like, it's about how much leverage you have. Like what's your, what options do you have if it doesn't work out. And I'm assuming that based on the way that you're Talking about the Panthers future at that position, it seems like there aren't a ton of options, and they have someone that maybe he was. He wasn't as good as he could have been last year, but he has a history and success. And I'm assuming that he's looking at it like, so what y' all gonna do? What else you gonna do, right? Like that's what. What other options do they have? I'm not saying he's gonna get whatever number it is that he wants, but I'm saying that he thinks that he has the leverage in this situation. I don't know the answer to that question. I'd need you or Roy to make that more clear to me or. Or Chris to make it more clear to me. What?

[Dominique Foxworth]

But not Tony.

[Tony Collater]

How do you get that love?

[Roy Bellamy]

No, I don't want this from.

[Tony Collater]

How do you get that love?

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, it's from your walk away.

[Tony Collater]

You ever had that love?

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, that lev a little bit.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What did that feel like?

[Tony Collater]

I love. Must be nice.

[Roy Bellamy]

That little love feels nice. It felt great, honestly. It's less about feeling good and more about feeling relaxed. I remember clearly after I got traded to the Falcons. We had our season. I played well. We lost in the playoff game, and I was healthy. My season was over. There was the time for me walking from the field to the locker room, where I was like, damn, we could have won that game. We could have gone on to a next playoff game. That have been cool. By the time I sat down at my locker, that lev hit. Ooh, that lev hit. And it wasn't like a high lev. It was like a man. Like, just wait. Now. It's just we just waiting. I looked at, like, what other cornerbacks were available in free agency, but the

[Dominique Foxworth]

waiting definitely sucks, right?

[Roy Bellamy]

No, no.

[Jeremy Fowler]

You been on vac.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's a great. No, no vacation. Just sitting at home alone like this. You don't need a vacation. You go on vacation and relax. There's no more relaxed feeling than. Since I was 6, I wanted to get to a position where I had

[Dominique Foxworth]

to get that lev. Yeah, you think?

[Tony Collater]

Look at.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Look at Chris Cody. Just take a good look at him.

[Roy Bellamy]

Look at him.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You think you'll ever get that lev?

[Roy Bellamy]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Give me a second. Chris look like a guy that could get some love? Yeah, he look like he could get some love. He look like he get some lev.

[Tony Collater]

That lev's around every.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's hard to get me, Tony. It's tough to get that laugh with Lab, though.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, now let's look at Tony. Everybody look at Tony. Let's take a good, hard look at Tony.

[Tony Collater]

Tony ain't got no live.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No live well. Oh, I didn't even have to ask. Just no Lev.

[Roy Bellamy]

Tony is leveless. Look at levels. Oh, wow. Look at him.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Didn't expect that.

[Roy Bellamy]

Tony, he presents Lev.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, okay.

[Roy Bellamy]

He, like, all the time. He's walking around like a guy that

[Dominique Foxworth]

got left, but it's like a poker face.

[Roy Bellamy]

Sometimes you could trick people into thinking you got that laugh.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, wow.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Do I got it? Do I not got it? Who knows?

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, let's take a look at Roy. Everybody look at Roy.

[Tony Collater]

Roy, what up?

[Dominique Foxworth]

You think Roy could ever get that love?

[Roy Bellamy]

Roy don't need that Lev. I'm looking at Roy's eyes. Roy's don't care about that Lev. What better lev do you have than someone who's like, I don't give a shit?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Nice. Good for you.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That is true, Lev.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, that's true Lev. I mean, that's ultimately what it comes down to when you're negotiating. It's like you look at the guy in CBA negotiations when we're looking across the table and there's, all right, we got a work stoppage. If they sincerely believe. I don't give a f If I make money or not, that's how you get. If I work or not, they believe that they will give you whatever you want. Hard to get that left, because most of the time, people care about that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Nice. So you got. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Roy Bellamy]

We can't live the whole room and not check your left.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, all right. Take a look at me. Everybody. Everybody look at me.

[Tony Collater]

You got that left.

[Jonathan Sasso]

You got it. Definitely.

[Tony Collater]

You got to put an application in for it. How you get the lev if you don't? For the people out there that are

[Roy Bellamy]

you born with it. Nah, nah, nah. I don't think you're born with the laugh. I think the. You can acquire the laugh. I think you got to work for the left. You got to work for the laugh.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Nice. And we already know, Dom, you know,

[Roy Bellamy]

I had to live. I'm leveless now. I'm levelless. Me.

[Jeremy Fowler]

You got some love. You got some love.

[Roy Bellamy]

Got a little love.

[Jeremy Fowler]

I talked to some people. You got some love.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's humble.

[Roy Bellamy]

I work at espn. I don't got no love. I don't got no love.

[Jonathan Sasso]

They.

[Roy Bellamy]

They got the left.

[Jonathan Sasso]

They?

[Guest/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

You ain't got no lev. They and three other people in that building got the lev. I ain't got no lev. I'm just hanging out, hope they don't see me.

[Jeremy Fowler]

But you're like another building, so. You got lev in your building.

[Tony Collater]

McAfee took all the left.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He took everybody's lev.

[Roy Bellamy]

Sass. Yeah, Sass got some lev, man. Sass got some lev. McAfee got some left. Got Norby up out of there, man.

[Jonathan Sasso]

That's left.

[Roy Bellamy]

Greeny got some sneaky lev. All right, Too many names.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Fowler got some lev.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Wow. There we go.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Herb Shrew got some lev.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So it brings me back to Bobrovsky, right? And this is interesting because which is it? Do the Panthers. Oh, Bobrovsky. Which. If he's asking for however much he's asking for, he's essentially saying, Yo, 1, 2 Stanley Cups with you. I was amazing in those runs. You. You owe me. Okay, I. I'd like the golden parachute here, or, you know, so do the Panthers. Oh, Bobrovsky. Or is it the other way around, that maybe Sergey owes the Panthers because the Panthers, they, you know, first of all, gave him the original 10 year, $70 million contract and put the cherries on top of your career. What's guaranteed now to be a Hall of Fame career where we put a team in front of you where you won two Stanley Cups. So which one is it? Like, would the. Would the team owe the player in that spot, or should the player owe the team and hence he takes a little bit less money?

[Jonathan Sasso]

He's asking for double what they have. I mean, that's not enough.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Reported, we don't know. Reported seems hard to believe.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, if you're asking about who owes who, like, you're. If you're asking me, you're asking the wrong person, because I'm always. Players. You owe the players a lot more. But I get your point. I think he would say the same thing is I played the most important position, the most pivotal position in this run. I gave this to you. You didn't give this to me. But it depends. Like, the golden parachute is something like. We think back to the final years of Kobe's career, where he got. Clearly, we're not trying to compete. We're just going to pay you and do this, like, victory tour. That's not where the Panthers sound like they are. They want to compete.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

And I think that it comes down to the fans in the LA situation were like, yeah, let's give it to them. Let's ride this out. I don't believe that the fans here feel that way. They got a taste of what it feels like to win. They want to win again. My Guess is that Chris, you don't. You're not looking for no golden parachute for Babka Sergey Babovkov.

[Tony Collater]

I actually fall on the side of I. We would not have had these two cups without Bob. So I am willing to overpay Bob. I don't want to do the Dave Hyde 342. But I, I do think after winning. I don't care what he his say percentage was last year, Roy, he has earned the right to go out with us. I, I want him to be our goalie next year. I mean obviously hella buck you're seeing these reports. That would be amazing. He's one of the best goalies in the league.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh yeah, but I've seen those reports.

[Tony Collater]

I'm. Bob is good for me forever. Like even if they gave him like but I would think they would do with him what they're doing with all their guys. Giving them longer deals so they get a lot of money. But it's like you're gonna have to stay here longer.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Well, you gotta keep in mind it wasn't just him that won those two Stanley Cups. It was the defense in front of him. They played really stout defensively and made his job.

[Tony Collater]

He was great in the playoffs.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Yeah, but Bill Zetle was actually thinking about that as well. And his safe percentage was in the high 800. That's terrible.

[Dominique Foxworth]

By the way, Juju, put it on the poll please. Are you born with that Lev, yes or no? So we'll see what happens there with Bobrovsky. The NHL draft is this weekend, is Friday. Thursday.

[Chris Cote]

Friday.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Friday, Friday.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Okay. The NHL draft is Friday. So maybe we'll wind up getting a little bit more clarity on what's going on there. I ultimately, ultimately believe that Bobrovsky will be back.

[Jonathan Sasso]

I hope so.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I think they're going to wind up figuring that situation out. I think that that's probably the plan. Speaking of an all time great Florida Panther who will have his jersey retired, by the way, isn't that incredible? The Panthers, Panthers have one player jersey retired. It's Roberto Luongo, the number one. You also have Bill Torres name is up there which with I think maybe the 93. Yeah, 93 first year. And Huizenga's up there too. What number is it?

[Jonathan Sasso]

I don't remember what number.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Anyway, it doesn't matter. But only one player is up there. There's so many players on this current team whose numbers are going to be up in the rafters one day. It's pretty amazing.

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[Dominique Foxworth]

Dan Levatar the Packers win or the Bear lose. Bears lose.

[Chris Cote]

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[Dominique Foxworth]

You want to know how that what were the kids doing?

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show. Foreign.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Talk about something that's been bothering me over the last 24 hours. Dominique okay, so really, really great times for the Miami Heat fan Now since they've acquired a superstar player, the games are super relevant again. It's going to be one of those cases now where when the NBA schedule comes out In a couple months, lot of national TV games, again, like the Heat, are going to be super relevant. It's going to be really fun. But I want to spend a couple minutes here talking about Tyler Herro, because this is a player who the fan base has been really hard on for a few years now, and that's fine. All right? It is what it is. But this is a player who every off season, probably for five in a row. Four or five in a row, really? I think the first one was with Russell Westbrook, when Westbrook was available. Which man was like, six years ago. Every off season, Tyler Herro's name is mentioned, and he's being offered up in trades for star players. And what does this guy do? Never complained. Got better every year. You know, Jimmy Butler, when Pat Riley did the press conference at the end of the season, his State of the Union. Remember the one where he called out Jimmy Butler, I think you need to shut up. If you. If you didn't play, you know, when Jimmy was taunting Boston and Pat told me, if you don't play, you can't talk. And that was essentially, like, the beginning of the end, you know? And Jimmy didn't take kindly to that. Well, in that same press conference, Pat Riley called out Tyler Herro, you gotta be better, you gotta be healthy, you gotta this, you gotta that. And what does Tyler Hero do every offseason? He puts his head down and he gets to work. He works harder, and he comes back a better player. And he never, ever, ever complained. And for a guy who got a lot of crap from fans because he wasn't what you wanted him to be, he was here for seven years. That's a long, long. It's a lot longer than LeBron, all right? It's longer than Tim Hardaway was here for. It's longer than Goran Dragic was here for. It's probably the same amount of time Chris Bosh was here for. Tyler Hero was here for a long time.

[Roy Bellamy]

So it sounds like Tyler Herro is being treated kind of like. And also Rand, like Heat player. And you're saying, like, good riddance? Yeah, kind of. And you're saying that he should be elevated and appreciated for the contributions that he made. Should we figure out where he ranks in this? Because obviously he was not, like, the best player on a title team, so even or he wasn't on a title team. So I think that puts him below a lot of those guys who are starters on a title team. Where should he be in the pantheon of, like, Heat players? Who's a Comp that he's not getting the respect that he deserves.

[Dominique Foxworth]

If we're talking about an all time Miami Heat team, he'd be a bench player. He'd come off the bench for an all time Miami Heat.

[Tony Collater]

So what was he, though? He was what, their third best player on a team that lost in the finals?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, in his rookie year, fourth best. You know, Jimmy Bam, Goran Dragic, hero in 2023, he was hurt. He didn't play in that finals. You know, how.

[Roy Bellamy]

How do you calculate what he helped you get into? His value to the team?

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's important.

[Roy Bellamy]

So the fact that he helped land you Giannis, does that ultimately raise him up?

[Dominique Foxworth]

It should.

[Roy Bellamy]

So we have to figure out where he lands on this and how to

[Tony Collater]

play with Lamar Odom. So we got Shaq.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, we loved Lamar Odom anyway in that one year. But yes, Lamar Odom should always be thought super highly because if he didn't have as great a year as he did, we, he wouldn't have been able to be the centerpiece of a deal for Shaquille o'.

[Tony Collater]

Neal.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And if Tyler Herron wasn't as good as he's been for the Heat, he wouldn't have been able to be one of the main pieces for Giannis Antetokounmpo.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Find it interesting, an all time Miami Heat team, 12 players going by position. Tallahiro's deep on that bench.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jeremy Fowler]

I've got the starting five here. I want to see what you think. Timmy at the 1, Wade at the 2, LeBron at the 3, Bosch at the 4, Shaq at the 5.

[Tony Collater]

Yeah, that's a good lineup.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's exactly it. Hey, that's a good lineup, that team. They'll win you some playoff games.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Zo, first guy off the bench.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Off the bench. You got Zoe, you got Jimmy. Ud, you got Goran Dragic, you got Bam, and you got Tyler Herro mixed in somewhere there.

[Roy Bellamy]

You know, I mean, you just got to start.

[Jonathan Sasso]

I don't.

[Roy Bellamy]

I don't know what you guys are doing here. No, it's not. At this point, it's not only about talent. It's a. I'm saying that it's about what you've meant to the team. He's got to start. I don't know who he starts over. UD's gotta start. You're not bringing UD off the bench like he is the Miami Heat.

[Tony Collater]

Literally all they did for his final eight years.

[Roy Bellamy]

Fair point.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Can I tell you the UD stuff that Dominique is talking about? There is something I'M really excited about Bobby Portis being on this team for the next couple of years, because what was my biggest beef when the Heat season ended this year? I mean, it ends in the playing game to the Charlotte Hornets. What an embarrassment.

[Tony Collater]

Bam.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Adebayo gets taken out by LaMelo Ball. I was very. I was very upset about this. LaMelo Ball takes him out. Bam has to leave the game. They lose the game. You had a player for the other team who makes a dirty play, taking out not only your captain, but he's your best player. And what was the Heat's reaction? Nothing. They did nothing. What happened to the team I love? How can. How can your best player, who's also your captain, get taken out by the other team and you don't do anything about it? Well, first of all, Giannis, in and of himself, is a pretty tough player, all right? But Bobby Portis is a legit tough guy, and this he team has been missing that for a couple of years. So that right there, that element of, hey, we need to get back to being a tough team. I really like that part of the trade.

[Jeremy Fowler]

G Money or Tyler Herro?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Glen Rice, for people that Glenn played here six years. Tyler played seven. Glenn was never an all Star with the Heat.

[Tony Collater]

This is so hard for you.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's very hard because not only is he my. My childhood hero, but he's also my friend. Okay, Just for the people at home.

[Jeremy Fowler]

So we've got Zoe, Jimmy, Bam UD off the bench, right? So we're trying to fill out the last three spots.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We're trying to make a roster that can compete for championships.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Do you take G Money, or do you take Tyler Herro?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I take Glenn Rice. He's bigger, stronger.

[Tony Collater]

I feel like I'm looking at, like, the Heat.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He could defend a little bit. Not a great defender, but defend a little bit Heat.

[Tony Collater]

Big three championship rosters. I feel like I'm picking, like I'm taking Shane Battier. Wow. I might take Mario.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You're trying to fill roles.

[Tony Collater]

I'm just saying, in a big spot.

[Jonathan Sasso]

We do need a not like Bibby.

[Tony Collater]

I know this was supposed to be I love Tyler Hero segment, and I do appreciate Tyler Hero. I agree with you, but I just don't know if he makes this.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's tough to call this a Tyler Hero appreciation when you're finding ways to

[Dominique Foxworth]

keep him off the team.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's not finding a role, which is

[Dominique Foxworth]

exactly what I'm fighting against here.

[Roy Bellamy]

There. There's a chance that you guys could replace Tyler Hero with a very similar Tyler From Vanderbilt named Tyler Nichols. Like, that's. People believe it's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And I don't know if anybody selected last night.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, no, I don't think so. I don't, I don't know if anybody knows him from the tournament, but he gives off. He's a Tyler who gives off Tyler hero vibes, if you know what I'm saying.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I know exactly what you. I'm picking up what you're putting down because I've been told the exact same thing.

[Roy Bellamy]

If y' all get that Tyler, then that's gonna bury Tyler Hero even more because he doesn't even have the distinction of being a little saucy for a Tyler.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, he do have a pick tonight. The Heater back in the game tonight. Pick a number 41 shout out. Glenn Rice. That's a good number. That's a lucky number.

[Roy Bellamy]

But they had a pick last night, which, like. And they put their hat on a guy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

My son said to me, he saw the Heat graphic come up. I'm watching my 14 year old, he saw the Heat graphic, come on. She goes, I thought that he traded that pick. And I was like, so now I got to get into the minutia with him, you know, like, yeah, but the trade doesn't become official until the league year, and that's July 6th. So it's, it's gonna say the Heat logo and he's gonna put on the stupid Heat hat. But we know it's for Milwaukee. And my son's like, well, why do they do it like that? And like, I know it's. It's dumb. We all know that it's Milwaukee, but they're going to put up the Heat logo and they're going to pretend that the Heater drafting him. And, and, and then my son goes, he goes, well, what if the Heat take a different player than Milwaukee wants?

[Tony Collater]

That's what they said. That's what I was my idea. And I'm like, hey, that's my gimmick.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I said, that's.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That's 14 year old idea.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's not gonna happen. Right? You should be proud. You should be proud.

[Tony Collater]

I'm like, that's a 17 year old.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's not the way it works. You know, he goes, because this is the trade. Like, if the Heat don't pick who Milwaukee wants, then the trade's gonna fall apart. And my son. So now my son's getting worried and he's worried because he realizes, oh, the trade's not official. But I'm really excited that they're getting Giannis, are you like, I could see the wheels moving. He said, are you telling me that there is a slim, even the slimmest of possibilities, that maybe this trade doesn't actually happen because it's not official yet?

[Tony Collater]

I have the same question. Can you answer it?

[Roy Bellamy]

We make a big deal about how this is dumb. They should do the other hat. But the actual dumb part about it is that the league year starts after the draft.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't get it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Like, in the NFL, the league, the draft is like the first major thing of the next league year in the NFL. Let's change some dates.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So not complicated.

[Roy Bellamy]

It ends. The league year ends before the draft, because obviously the draft is about next year. It's the first step for next year. Having the draft at the end of last year makes little to no sense.

[Tony Collater]

And then after the Heat make the pick for the guy that puts on the Heat hat, even though he's clearly going to Milwaukee, the next pick, he walks out for the next pick. And he's like, I have to announce a trade. And I'm like, oh, man, is there another? And he just announces the trade that we all know.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Adam Silver.

[Tony Collater]

Yeah, it's just like. Like, thanks, Adam. Well, now we're all aware.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Okay, so. So how about this? So then yesterday, shortly after that, the Miami Heat Twitter account. The Heat Twitter account tweets out, and they never, like, you're not going to get anyone from the Heat confirmed that they have Giannis. You could water torture. They will not tell you that they traded for giannis because until July6, they don't have Giannis. And he tweeted out last night as part of a deal to be finalized later, the Miami Heat is trading to the Milwaukee Bucks the draft rights to Nate Ament, the 13th pick in the NBA draft.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Good player.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And I'm like, wow, that's exciting. I wonder what the rest of the details are. What else are you going to get? This is fun.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think if you water tortured, you probably would get them to admit that they traded for Giannis.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't think so.

[Jonathan Sasso]

I don't know.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm thinking as he might be, as they're gasping for air, and all you want is them to say, yeah, we got a deal on the books for Giannis. I think somebody might be like, you got me. Please lean on me. We're getting Yanis.

[Jonathan Sasso]

Can you imagine one of the players not passing the physical? And now the tree is getting avoided that way.

[Jeremy Fowler]

You don't start this.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You don't start this. That does happen. But we all know. And Dominique can speak this passing the physicals up to the team, like the guy could show up with a broken leg. You pass.

[Chris Cote]

But.

[Tony Collater]

But if something were to happen, some crazy hypothetical, the Heat would then just be stuck with the guy they took last night.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, I think so.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, you guys act as if the. The Heat getting screwed in a deal is something that hasn't happened with information that they found out later, like it's a fresh wound. Like, you guys remember not too long ago, you made a deal for a guy that you didn't even want and then find out that he did some things that you can't really appreciate and you're in trouble. So I'm saying we just saw it happen with the Ravens. This has been kind of an insane year for sports. Lots of great things are happening. USA is going to win the World Cup. What are we doing? I'm just saying, what are we doing?

[Jeremy Fowler]

You know that the power of this show's jinx has Roy single handedly lost the Keynes International Championship.

[Jonathan Sasso]

I did not.

[Jeremy Fowler]

What he said about Carson Beck.

[Chris Cote]

Okay?

[Jeremy Fowler]

And now we're going to start putting in the atmosphere that the trade's going to be rescinded because of a physical,

[Dominique Foxworth]

because of this, because of that.

[Tony Collater]

Can you guys shut it?

[Jeremy Fowler]

And by the way, the streets were talking yesterday, they did not appreciate the local hour yesterday.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What? What did we do?

[Jeremy Fowler]

The streets were talking. They said Dan poo pooed the trade. Why was Dominique talking about the trade and all the bad things that happened? We didn't like that. So the streets told me that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So I'm just telling you my name on the street.

[Roy Bellamy]

You were good, okay?

[Jeremy Fowler]

Because you were next to me. And we were trying to do the right thing, which was be excited about Giannis and about the trade. And then everybody was taking a all over it, including Dan Levitar.

[Roy Bellamy]

So we. We don't like the truth around here. He's most likely to get hurt. How could you know that?

[Tony Collater]

What the hell kind of information is that?

[Jeremy Fowler]

The top 50 player. How about a 50 point game in a closeout game in the finals?

[Gambling Disclaimer Voice]

How about that?

[Dominique Foxworth]

So we gave out the proper appreciation. I think the Tyler hero. Yeah, I think we're good.

[Roy Bellamy]

You're our hero.

[Jeremy Fowler]

You take him. Gary Payton or Tyler.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Tony Collater]

Bruce Bowling.

[Roy Bellamy]

Sergey Babka.