Skip Bayless Is BACK! | Hour 1

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Skip Bayless Is BACK! | Hour 1"

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: May 8, 2026
From the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This hour of the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz finds the crew in typical form, riffing on parenting, South Florida excursions, and the quirks of sports discourse. The core theme is the return of Skip Bayless to ESPN’s First Take, which inspires the group to examine the art of sports debate, legacy-obsessed commentary, and which athletes truly shoulder the “loser” label. Woven throughout are familiar tangents: parental pride, family oddities, and affectionate ribbing among friends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dan’s Big Sports Dad Weekend & The Zaslow Family Quirk

• Dan’s Excitement for Father/Son Adventures

  • Dan shares his plans to drive his older son and friends to Orlando for the Rolling Loud hip-hop festival, then take his younger son to WWE Backlash in Tampa:
    • "We're going to be sitting ringside. We'll be right there for ringside. Hell yeah, dog." — Dan (01:33)
  • The crew lovingly teases Dan for being “Dad of the year” for chauffeuring teenagers across Florida.

• Longstanding Zaslow Family Tradition: No Daughters

  • The group jokes about Dan not being a “girl dad,” spawning a conversation about the Zaslow bloodline’s drought of female children (over 100 years!).
    • "There has not been a female Zaslow in over 100 years." — Dan (07:12)
  • Ribald theories are tossed around about possible “methods” for the streak, with good-natured laughs about primitive genetics, family anecdotes, and medical advice.
    • "It's like flipping a coin and coming up heads every single time." — Roy (08:03)

2. Sports Parenting & ‘Girl Dad’ Discourse

• The crew debates whether being a “girl dad” is a genuine badge of honor, a performative title, or ultimately just good parenting, referencing cultural shifts after Kobe Bryant’s legacy.
  • "Girl dad just means that you're being a good dad, right?" — Dan (05:11)
  • Zaslow: "If that's the big achievement in your life…biology came up heads or tails." (04:49)
• Dave shares a heartfelt story about supporting his daughter’s music performance:
  • "No mother, just me, my little girl, my angel. We went down there and I watched her play the violin. And then afterwards we got some food together. Hero. Proud girl dad." — Dave (06:12)

3. Spotlight: James Harden’s Playoff Woes & Legacy Talk

[15:05–26:52]

• Dan and the team break down James Harden’s latest poor playoff performance:

  • "James Harden is a historic playoff dropper. Like we talk about playoff risers and playoff droppers." — Mike Ryan (16:41)
  • Harden is compared to Clayton Kershaw and Aaron Rodgers: all prodigious talents whose playoff struggles undermine legacies.

• Debate: Playoff Losers, Legacy & Rings Culture

  • The crew grapples with the difference between great players who didn’t win (like Charles Barkley, Dan Marino, Karl Malone) and those who actively failed in key moments.
  • "If you don't come through in big spots, that is how you are going to be remembered." — Dave (20:05)
  • Roy: Barkley and Marino were great in the playoffs, just unlucky not to win. Harden, in contrast, "plays badly when nut cutting time occurs." (24:21)
  • Timelines are discussed — How winning titles, and conversation around them, have changed over decades.
  • "This idea that the ring counter, that's where it is. That's...a modern invention." — Roy (32:36)

4. Skip Bayless Returns: The Performance Art of Sports Debate

[33:13–38:36]

• Skip’s Appearances on First Take:

  • The crew revels in Skip Bayless’ polarizing return, marvelling at his craft:
    • "Skip Bayless is back. Still got it." — Mike Ryan (33:42)
    • Skip leads with a signature scorcher: "'Lakers are better without Luka.'" — Jeremy (33:47)
    • Roy analyzes Skip’s tactics, “raising the expectations for the Luka-less Lakers” so LeBron’s legacy can be skewered no matter the outcome.
  • The team hams up Skip’s ‘master class’ in shifting narratives, minority-opinion grandstanding, and debate theatrics.
    • "He's called Luka the most inefficient player in the NBA." — Mike Ryan (34:12)
    • "What does the majority think?...Then I'm gonna defend the minority." — Dave (34:20)

• Debating the Future of Sports TV Debates:

  • Nostalgic speculation: Should ESPN bring Skip back permanently? Is this a “tryout”?
    • "This show...will do a pretty big number...How do you not have a conversation about bringing Skip Bayless back, like, regularly?" — Dan (37:30)
  • Banter about debate show postures and “face work,” poking fun at Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharpe’s signature on-air moves.

5. Meta-Commentary: The State of Sports Radio & Debate Culture

• The crew reflects on how the need for ‘takes’ can sometimes overshadow thoughtful sports conversation — sports radio is now performative:
  • "The enduring legends are the ones who win the titles. That's how it goes. ...You're digging in on nonsense, then." — Dave (36:25)
  • "You want me to ask? A or B?" — Roy (41:22)
  • They joke on ‘rogue whites’ to fill out First Take, tossing out names like Will Kane, Tucker Carlson, and Dave Portnoy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parenting and Tradition:

  • "There has not been a female Zaslow in over 100 years." — Dan (07:12)
  • "I don't want to be crude, but there is a way to get it." — Dan, on family ‘methods’ for producing boys (08:44)

• On Harden's Legacy:

  • "James Harden is a historic playoff dropper." — Mike Ryan (16:41)
  • "If you don't come through in big spots, that is how you are going to be remembered." — Dave (20:05)

• On Debate Show Tactics:

  • "He's called Luka the most inefficient player in the NBA." — Mike Ryan (34:12)
  • "What does the majority think? Oh, then I'm gonna defend the minority." — Dave (34:20)
  • "Skip Bayless is back. Still got it." — Mike Ryan (33:42)
  • "Presented by Cuervo. Just. I didn't know you still had it, sir." — Mike Ryan offers a playful toast to Skip (37:04)

• On the Evolution of Titles in Sports Debates:

  • "This idea that the ring counter, that's where it is. That's...a modern invention." — Roy (32:36)
  • "Timelines have shifted. The conversation has changed over time." — Roy (26:19)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:25–06:53: Parenting tales, Dan’s weekend plans, the Zaslow family’s all-boys history
• 15:05–26:52: Analysis of James Harden, Clayton Kershaw comps, ‘loser’ legacies debate, Barkley/Marino/Malone discussion
• 33:13–38:36: Skip Bayless returns to First Take — tactics, impact, debate show performance art
• 41:05–end: Light-hearted theorizing about possible new debate show personalities

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode blends affectionate teasing, thoughtful sports insight, and comedic deconstruction of sports media. The banter is sharp, irreverent, and always self-aware — a balancing act between earnest analysis and parody of sports radio clichés.

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Summary by [your assistant], distilled directly from the hosts’ unique dynamic.

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Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats Podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

This episode of the dan lebatard show is presented by draftkings. DraftKings. The crown is yours.

[Dan Le Batard]

Incredible.

[Dave Zaslow]

He really did it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Great performance. I am very excited for this weekend, guys. Very, very excited. We are hopping in the Zazlow Mobile this afternoon. Me and my. I got my son and a couple of his. My older son and a couple of his teenage friends throwing them in the back seat. And me and my younger son were in the front seat. I'm driving, Dave. I'm not.

[Dave Zaslow]

What a dad he is. Pat yourself on the back. Let no modesty here.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a dad.

[Dave Zaslow]

Now, if the Heat and or Panthers were playing on Saturday night, I don't know if you'd still be making this trip, but either way, he's to be hailed. What a dad you are. Taking that day driving these.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm taking the older ones all over Florida. And his friends were going to Orlando today. I'm dropping them at Rolling Loud. That's like the world's biggest hip hop festival. All right. I don't know who's performing, you know, but they're. They're into it. My son loves rap, so they're going to Rolling Loud the whole weekend, and then tomorrow they're staying in Orlando. And me and my younger one, we're making the trek a little bit west. We're going to Tampa. WWE Backlash.

[Dave Zaslow]

Backlash.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Very.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're going to be sitting ringside. We'll be right there for ringside. Hell yeah, dog.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You got that kind of juice?

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on, son.

[Roy]

Did you catch those bonds?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's funny that you say that. I have not cashed them yet. I have my wife. Every other week, my wife's like, when are you going to cash these? When are you going to cash these?

[Jeremy Stugats]

Wasn't the plan to have that cover your John Cena trip?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, yes. Somehow I still managed to cover it. But I have those bonds, the stocks and bonds. They're right there on the counter. I have not. I just haven't gone to the bank. You got to go to the bank. When's the last time you walked into a bank? Hmm. That's the problem, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Just for an atm. Just for an atm.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but I got to go in and I got to give them the stuff. Like, that's the problem.

[Jeremy Stugats]

What a big week. Today, tomorrow, Saturday, so.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. Very big week today. Tomorrow, going to WWE Backlash tomorrow.

[Dave Zaslow]

You're going to get in the car. You could just put your feet up in the mansion. But instead you're going to drive what, three hours.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, three hours today.

[Dave Zaslow]

And Orlando.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. And it's like 90 minutes from Orlando, Tampa tomorrow, by the way.

[Dave Zaslow]

To the people in Orlando who hit me up on social media and otherwise, I was not attempting to offend you. I was just asking questions as an outsider to your lovely state. Now, Orlando, and then you. You will continue your journey to Tampa, which is another two hours from Orlando.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Zaslow]

90 minutes driving here, there, and everywhere. And it's. It makes you a great dad to do that with. The, The. The key detail is it's not just your boys, it's their pals.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Dave Zaslow]

Which is a handful. I also think that these are things you enjoy, right? I mean, you said you don't care about the hip hop, and notably, you're not going to be at the hip hop. But you do care about the WWE very much. So there's. There's something in it for you. There's a character.

[Dan Le Batard]

Absolutely. My younger, when he comes to all the wwe, shows me he loves it too. Yeah. So it's. It's not a completely selfless act. No, I love it. I'm going to a thing that I love, and I love going and experiencing it with my son.

[Dave Zaslow]

You have. No, but you have Zaslo, because you're a very guy sort of guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I guess they thank you to that. No, I don't have any girls. I don't know. Like, I've never thought about it if I had a girl.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You don't get to be a girl, dad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, all right, whatever. Like, I'm all right.

[Jeremy Stugats]

It's very special thing.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

It's an honor, actually.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Or so we're told.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm one of them.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Repeatedly.

[Dave Zaslow]

Oh, my God. I hope we all have the T. We should have all worn our T shirts, right? And our caps and everything to let the world know that in a 50. 50 proposition.

[Mike Ryan]

Damn. Why'd they cut to Roy?

[Dave Zaslow]

In which you were relatively. In which you were a relatively passive participant in the creation of. You probably didn't do that.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Well, you didn't.

[Dave Zaslow]

You.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You didn't do.

[Dave Zaslow]

Oh, well, my, My. My participation was quite powerful, as usual, but we provide the surprisingly so.

[Dan Le Batard]

Vigorous.

[Dave Zaslow]

Vigorous lovemaker. But that's not what we're talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

That.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah. Okay, so coin flip. It went one way and now you're a hero for that. Or is it. Are you the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Everyone here is a girl, dad. Except me.

[Dave Zaslow]

Because you care about. Because. Because you. Because you go the extra mile.

[Mike Ryan]

You didn't get bitter because you have more boys.

[Jeremy Stugats]

No, no, no, no. Not everybody here is a girl dead. Dave. He has a daughter, but he's not a girl dad.

[Dave Zaslow]

I have no. Well, I have two boys and I have two girls. I am a girl dad.

[Jeremy Stugats]

No, no, you're not a girl dad. Vigorous lover. You're just a dad.

[Dan Le Batard]

You object the idea of it being like something that's to be celebrated?

[Dave Zaslow]

Well, it's a little like Chris Rock described something else, like a pretty low expectation, having mother effort. If that's the big achievement in your life. Is that you? That biology came up heads or tails.

[Mike Ryan]

However, you were the best thing I've ever done, Dave,

[Dave Zaslow]

when he died. Really? I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

There is something to what you're saying. Where. All right, like girl, girl dad just means that you're being a good dad, right? You're being a dad.

[Jeremy Stugats]

No, no, no, no. You're being a dad exclusively to a girl, which is, you know, ever since Kobe, extra special.

[Dave Zaslow]

No, no, no. You can carve that out, Mike. If you're just doing one on one and you're going to your daughter, as I do, like, you know, I'll take her to ballet.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You're awesome.

[Dave Zaslow]

You're almost grading material.

[Roy]

What a hero.

[Dave Zaslow]

I hate to pat myself on the back like this, but a couple of Saturdays ago, there was a relatively early morning performance. She plays. She plays violin in her. In her school band. And they had a performance in downtown la. So I took her. No mother, just me, my little girl, my angel. We went down there and I watched her play the violin. And then afterwards we got some food together. Hero. Proud girl dad.

[Roy]

Where'd you go? The pantry, I think.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Were you able to emotionally connect with

[Dave Zaslow]

the girl we talked about? I mean, I'm sitting there and I'm like, can you imagine 20 year old Dave talking dogging to this girl about the thing she was interested in? I mean, I was. I love being a girl dad.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Might be a girl dad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can I tell you, like, so I don't have any daughters. I have two boys, which the Zaslow is like, that's. That's not a surprise because the Zaslos have not produced a female in over a hundred years.

[Roy]

That sounds.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's true.

[Dave Zaslow]

Explain what you mean by this, because what you just said cannot be.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Not a cousin.

[Mike Ryan]

In fact.

[Dave Zaslow]

True.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Not an uncle.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a weird. Well, nope, not an uncle, because that would be an aunt. It is a. It's. It's a weird thing. We don't produce females. There has not been a female Zaslow in over 100 years.

[Dave Zaslow]

Impossible.

[Dan Le Batard]

On our family tree, this. We don't have females. We don't produce females. Yeah, like my. I have an. I have an aunt. My Aunt Blanche. We don't make blanches anymore.

[Dave Zaslow]

104 years of age.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, no, she died a while ago, but she was born.

[Mike Ryan]

Feel good, Dave?

[Dan Le Batard]

She was born early. Last. Like, in the 19. Maybe like 1915.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

Oh, like Nellie Doogie.

[Dan Le Batard]

So she was the last female Zazler. It's been over. So it's been like around 110 years. It's been over 100 years since we produced a female. Why is that hard to believe?

[Mike Ryan]

Did that make you. Did that make you want to have another kid just to give another crack at it?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. I don't care.

[Dave Zaslow]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, I kind of prefer it this way because my cousins are an age where they're having kids. I kind of hope one of them has a girl. But right now we've struck out because one of my cousins, he's already had two boys. Like, again, we only do boys.

[Roy]

It's like flipping a coin and coming up heads every single time.

[Dave Zaslow]

That's exactly right. And I legitimately think that I would were I you or someone in your family. I might go to a doctor, to an ob, GYN or whoever studies such things and say, is something wrong with my sperm, with my family sperm.

[Mike Ryan]

I figured it out. The Zazlows are missionary men.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not true. Because there is a specific way to make. To assure that you have males. And it's not that way.

[Dave Zaslow]

Oh, wow.

[Mike Ryan]

You've looked this up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah. We know this.

[Roy]

It's not like that family secret handed down through the generation.

[Dan Le Batard]

Whatever.

[Roy]

I don't want to be Jonathan. One day, when you are ready to sire, make sure you do it doggy style.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Give us the tools of the trade.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to be crude, but there is a way to get it.

[Mike Ryan]

Doggy style was the way we'd have all boys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, in my family, that's the way

[Dave Zaslow]

that somehow, amidst this entire conversation, you

[Jeremy Stugats]

don't want to look yourself.

[Dave Zaslow]

Chris Cody,

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

that's somehow worse than anything you've said.

[Dave Zaslow]

I had a girl, I switch it up.

[Jeremy Stugats]

All right.

[Roy]

Zaslo style.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's been over 100 years.

[Dave Zaslow]

What is. But okay, what are. How many at bats have there been? That have. That is yielded a batting average of zero.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Dave Zaslow]

For a century.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. I told you, my. My aunt. This is over 100 years ago. 1915, something like that. Her brother is my grandfather. He had two boys. My father and my uncle. My uncle had two boys. My father had two boys. One of them me. I had two boys. My cousin, my uncle's son had two boys. And here we are. It's been over 100.

[Dave Zaslow]

Those bar mitzvahs must be the worst. The worst sausage parties in of all time. I mean, geez Louise.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, like, like the family members.

[Mike Ryan]

We.

[Dan Le Batard]

We marry women and so there are women there. It's not an entire party.

[Mike Ryan]

You ever seen the SNL of the Sandler party? That's how I imagine the Zaslow party.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah. All with backwards hats.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Awesome. Awesome to see you.

[Dave Zaslow]

Awesome.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Yeah.

[Roy]

We haven't had at girl in over 100 years.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You know about that.

[Dave Zaslow]

Missionary. I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't even know how to grow. That's how it's done.

[Jeremy Stugats]

What's the spread?

[Dave Zaslow]

Thai food.

[Jeremy Stugats]

In unison this point.

[Dave Zaslow]

Thai food. This is bizarre. And I think there may be a sneaky medical problem that you're having. I don't know if there's no problem. Oh, so you don't like girls. So I guess he. Good thing he isn't a girl. Dad. He isn't equipped to handle it.

[Mike Ryan]

Two things we know. They're all boys and they're all cucks.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

Yep, that's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dare I told you the entire bloodline.

[Dave Zaslow]

There's something weird about, like, the Zaslow clan needs to get with Chris Cody's wife's all right.

[Mike Ryan]

We can just move on.

[Dave Zaslow]

Bunch of clone girls to go along with the Zazzle men.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Go clones.

[Dave Zaslow]

Look at this.

[Dan Le Batard]

It'll be quite a day when that streak is broken. Like I said, Over 100 years.

[Dave Zaslow]

I just, I, I, I just. I feel sad for you, ultimately. Zaz. Whatever. You don't. Well, you just. You don't know what it is. You don't know the joy.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I'm doing okay.

[Dave Zaslow]

I know, but you don't know what it is to be a hero.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

I'm actually awesome to be a hero. Really?

[Dave Zaslow]

You know, to look in the mirror sometimes and go, like, what?

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

To be able to connect with one of those.

[Dave Zaslow]

This, this life. I never saw being a girl dad as a part of it, but here we are.

[Roy]

I mean, Gordon Recitals.

[Dave Zaslow]

Can you believe I. The thing is. Yeah, I have a couple of girls. You know what else? I care about them. Can I say it again? Hero.

[Roy]

Oh, my God.

[Dave Zaslow]

I wish them well. And I enjoy. I enjoy their activities.

[Jeremy Stugats]

The other night, I was staying in. At least that was a plan. Then the text from my buddy Eagle Eye comes in. Mike, we've got the games on. I say, yeah. I grab a pack of Miller Lite and immediately my plan's gone. Now it's playoff basketball. Every possession feels huge. Baseball's on another screen, and I somehow care about that, too. Everybody's got takes flying. Nobody's watching. Just one thing, and we're all way more into it than we ever expected. It was one of those nights that you take a sip, you look around and you think, yeah, this was the right move. That's why I reached for Miller Lite. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste, with simple ingredients, just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. The original light beer since 1975. And it still hits different cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

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[Jeremy Stugats]

Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Dave Zaslow]

Doesn't matter anywhere.

[Roy]

We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore either. He said you could do it.

[Mike Ryan]

Where?

[Dave Zaslow]

Anywhere.

[Roy]

Oh, whoa. Oh.

[Dave Zaslow]

That's crazy.

[Roy]

That's crazy.

[Dave Zaslow]

That's crazy.

[Roy]

He said he could do it anywhere. That's crazy.

[Dave Zaslow]

Murder. Murder.

[Roy]

Tell him st.

[Jeremy Stugats]

I had no idea. Mean. Had that in his locker.

[Dave Zaslow]

That might be his death.

[Jeremy Stugats]

That's crazy.

[Roy]

I'm not kidding.

[Dave Zaslow]

That's. That's crazy. Killer.

[Roy]

It's two America's dead. You don't get it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats. So last night. So Last night, James Harden 3 of 13 over 4 from 3. 10 points, 3 assists, 4 turnovers. Another playoff performance with more turnovers than field goals made and assists in this case. And the Cavaliers, they go down 02, losing 107. 97 to Detroit. I like. It's obviously a pathetic performance from James Harden. The turnovers are really weird. And it's a lot of dribbling. It's a lot of dribbling in front of the defender. The defender just swipes the ball away. Brutal turnover. What was it, a two possession game, five or six points with like 50 seconds left, and he just essentially hands the ball to a Sar Thompson and the game ends in that spot. He's like, he's awful in the playoffs and. And I almost, you know, there. He's had his playoff struggles throughout his career. But correct me if I'm wrong, I almost feel like because we know the regular season is one kind of game and the postseason is another kind of game. And it's almost as if the current age that he's at the playoff style and playing against, not only playing against teams that are good defensively every single night, but also officials officiate the game differently in the postseason. This is not a style of play that he could succeed in anymore.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

This reminds me a little bit of Clayton Kershaw, where there's almost like the self fulfilling prophecy of everyone had this reputation for you, whether it was right or not in your prime. And then as you age, you only have less and less success come the postseason. And so in turn, people are reinforcing the idea they have about you. But James Harden is a historic playoff dropper. Like we talk about playoff risers and playoff droppers. His stats in the postseason. I mean, he's constantly setting records for the worst postseason performances. There are stats all, all over the Internet last night about all of these things that he has continued to do to be terrible. Namely, he's being outplayed by Duncan Robinson in this playoff series.

[Dave Zaslow]

I can't help but think about the Zaslow family reunion looking like a Minions scene from the Minion somehow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Overalls,

[Dave Zaslow]

you know, I feel like it's. At least we were talking about the optimism of a sports fan, that it's nice to have a young draft pick and you might be willing to give up a note entity in order to get it because of the promise of the future unseen. That's more defensible in my book than going out and getting James Harden. And we talked about this isn't 2020 hindsight. We talked about it when James Harden got. When the Cavs got him. What do you think? Well, what do you think this is exactly right. Clayton Kershaw, Aaron Rodgers, these guys want to control their legacy. You know how big time athletes love to talk about. Um, I don't care. Legacy talk is for you media people. We don't care about that.

[Roy]

We're.

[Dave Zaslow]

We're in the battles. No, no, you care about your legacy. You just want to control it and write it no matter what the actual facts are. It must be vexing to be James Harden, Aaron Rodgers, Clayton Kershaw, all time greats. But also you don't get it done when it counts. And they wish that that weren't true and they get angry when you mention it and they get a chip on the shoulder. But facts are facts. Why did you think James Harden. I remember I could swear a mean you were defending this move that. Oh no, James Harden, Darius Garland, everybody was James. I.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Maybe I'm.

[Dave Zaslow]

I don't want to put that on you, but people were defending I like people were arguing with me in this studio when that happened. Oh, no. This is an upgrade. This puts him in a better spot for the play. Based on what? Based on I. I've seen James Harden's playoff performances his whole career based on

[Roy]

Darius Garland's hurt all the time. And we saw what Darius Garland was towards the end of the year. He was good. He wasn't as good as James Harden. The reality is they are where they are in part because of how Harden has played. And also there is an end of the road to this where you played against a better team. And I think what Jeremy did as far as that comp to Clayton Kershaw, I 100% agree. Because I think Harden is a guy who has had big games. So we talked about this when the Celtics just blew that 31 lead, right? The last time the Celtics and the Sixers played was a couple years ago. Harden was still a Sixer. That was a seven game series. Embiid missed a bunch of time in that series. Harden had like a 40 point game in either game 5 or game 6. Like he had a big game in that series. They lose and everyone's like, it's Harden's fault because he's a choker. I'm like, wait a second. All the excuses about Tatum being hurt and all that. Where were those same people, same voices a couple years ago?

[Dave Zaslow]

Fair. Not when you're the common factor in flame outs in the postseason, AKA when the games really matter and people want to talk their way around that. That is what we're watching the games for. If you don't come through in the big spots, that is how you are going to be remembered.

[Roy]

No, look, he had a, like, look, these two games have been really bad games. Really, really bad games. Right? But again, the idea that, like, I knew we should have kept Garland like that doesn't make sense either.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I liked the trade when it happened. But here's the thing. He has a player option next season at $42 million. If he decides to opt out and leaves for nothing or he pulls the move where he opts in. Okay, you're not going to give me the new contract then I'm demanding a trade. Which is exactly how it ended in Philadelphia. Like if you're Cleveland and you don't keep him. Now again, Garland is never healthy. All right, I liked the trade, but if you wind up losing him, now that's a dis. Like that. Because. Because, because how can you pay him based on what's happening? If they flame out in this series and Harden's absolutely awful, you're. You're giving him three years, $120 million.

[Dave Zaslow]

Like now we gotta keep, now we gotta keep Hormuz closed. That's basically that. What choice do we have now?

[Dan Le Batard]

We gotta do it right. Like it's a total disaster.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

I mean, look, they traded Garland, who they wanted to get off of in a second round pick to get Harden. It was a dart throw. If, if he leaves in free agency. Maybe that's something that they wanted from the beginning. Maybe. Or maybe it was. Hey, if it works, we'll have him for the one year and we'll figure it out. The idea was this. This would help alleviate some Pressure on Donovan Mitchell, who hasn't been spectacular in the playoffs. He struggled in Game 1.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's better still finding a way. Like he didn't shoot well last night, but he's still finding a way.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

There's a huge difference between the playoff performances of those two guys. I'm not trying to to say that they're even anywh same. What Harden has done has been really, really bad. And the reason they acquired him was to open things up for Mitchell. It was worth the dart throw. Everything we were all saying from the jump was realistic. The, the problem was is they rattled off a few wins in those first few games. And so people started to go, oh my God, can they win the East? Are they going to be this great dominant team?

[Dan Le Batard]

Are they the best five in their last six? It's going up to, oh, they really struggled.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

They've really struggled. And, and, and what Harden is doing is, is historically bad because it only adds to continued historic struggles in the playoffs. You compare it to Rogers and Kershaw. At least Rogers won a Super Bowl. Kershaw's won a World Series. He was a huge part of, of making runs earlier. Harden has been nowhere near it.

[Dave Zaslow]

Well, it's also based on expectation. You know, we talked to Michelle Beetle, die hard spurs fan, and asked her a couple of days ago, how many titles will be satiating for you as a Spurs fan in the Wemby era? And she said, and I think that's fair. And if you're Aaron Rodgers or Clayton Kershaw or James Harden, you have to win more than what they have respectively won. Who are the hall of Fame level losers? Who are the. Who what is the highest rated among the hall of Famer, future hall of Famers, or even the ones that are already in the Hall Singular athletes?

[Jeremy Stugats]

Because everyone always mentions the Buffalo Bills. You don't want to become the Buffalo Bills singular athlete?

[Mike Ryan]

Barkley, Marino, Mike Trout.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but hold on a second. Like, are you asking here who, like who is. Who is the worst playoff performer relative to their overall stats?

[Dave Zaslow]

Well, how about. Yeah, how about, in fact, who is in line to replace Charles Barkley? Is the answer. Dan Marino is the answer.

[Roy]

No, he's not. Because both of those guys were incredible in their postseason careers. They just didn't win one. That's a different conversation we're having. So that's a different conversation. If you say who's the.

[Dave Zaslow]

You're trying to have a different.

[Roy]

No, you're trying to have it. You're not.

[Dan Le Batard]

You say it.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You say it back and Say, Dave.

[Dave Zaslow]

Wait, I. I fell asleep.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Well, if you say it back, we can replicate first take in a couple of minutes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris Paul's the guy, right?

[Roy]

I mean, Chris Paul would be the name.

[Jeremy Stugats]

What about Lamar Jackson?

[Roy]

Lamar Jackson, Yeah. Like, I think that's right. I think the big thing for me is, like, we're talking. We're talking about. This is a Harden inspired conversation.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Roy]

We're talking about people, not the. And they've never won. It's. Oh, you play bad when the. When nut cutting time occurs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. Barkley was never playing badly, was amazing in the playoffs.

[Roy]

He was amazing in the playoffs.

[Dave Zaslow]

I will listen for the. The Draymond conversation. And we had it yesterday and everybody else has had it. Charles Barkley versus Draymond Green. I mean. I mean, you would remember this. I don't know that anybody else would. 93. That Phoenix Suns team was one of the single best teams I've seen. Somehow they didn't win the title. Well, because they met Michael Jordan. And you could really make a. That if Paxton doesn't hit that shot in game six, that maybe goes to

[Roy]

seven and maybe they lose. Yeah, right.

[Dave Zaslow]

That doesn't change the fact that whether you think it's fair or not, these. These smaller moments, the smaller sample size is everything. And when we look back and evaluate the. When you're. You're not talking about hall of Famer, you're talking about the best of all time. Charles Barkley doesn't make that list because he never won a title. Dan Marino, it falls away in any conversation of best quarterback ever, because ultimately you have to get to the point of like, well, he never did win a Super bowl and he didn't perform very well in the playoffs, to your point. So Marino is that. I think Mike Ryan, though, that's what fascinates me about the NFL conversation. Aaron Rodgers is one of the great losers for top five quarterback of all time. I mean, he hasn't been to a Super bowl in 15 years. Which is why it's pretty funny that the Steelers are like, you know what our path to the super bowl is? A guy who hasn't been to a Super bowl since we have a decade and a half ago.

[Roy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm old enough to remember prior to Elway winning in the 90s, that the conversation of greatest quarterback of all time was Joe Montana. And then it's like, number two on that list is Dan Marino. That's how people were talking in the 90s, like, Dan Marino, despite not having been back to The super bowl after that one time in the 80s. Oh, he's still, like, the best. The only reason why Montana's better is because he's won the Super Bowls.

[Dave Zaslow]

But it gets asterisked. That is the ultimate sports radio. Sports radio conversation. Of course it matters if you win the title.

[Roy]

But my. My point is these conversations have shifted and changed over time. Right? Where to where you're like, damn, Reno's not even the conversation anymore, but like 30 years ago, the conversation. In the same way that 30 years ago in the 90s, you walked around and you ask anybody who is the greatest power forward to play in the

[Dan Le Batard]

NBA, in NBA history in the 90s.

[Roy]

If you ask in the 90s, it was Karl Malone. It was. It was a split camp. Half the people said Karl Malone, half the people said Barkley.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right.

[Roy]

And the fact that neither of them won a title was not. It was totally irrelevant because their careers

[Dave Zaslow]

were still active and there was still the possibility. Same as Lamar Jackson. People will tell you because they like to express some faux level of empathy. They'll say, oh, at the end of every Bill season or Raven season, no reason to hang your head. Lamar is going to get his. Josh Allen's going to get his. Don't worry, they'll eventually win. Will they? They're now both 30 years old. I don't think either one. I think there's a decent chance. I think it's more likely that neither guy ever wins a Lombardi at this point.

[Roy]

It's always more likely that they're not going to win. Because it's hard to win. It's hard to win. And that's why we're able to accept and appreciate greatness despite the lack of certain accolades. When people were having that conversation about Malone versus Barkley, they were 13, 14 years into their careers. It wasn't like, oh, they might still do it. It was like, yeah, like, it's probably not gonna happen. And then, you know. But it didn't change the conversation. Malone finally goes to the finals, 97 and 98. That's again, 13, 14, 15 years into his career. But at no point in that conversation was there someone who said, well, it's not Barkley and it's not Malone. It's this other guy. Cause he won a ring. We didn't have that conversation. It wasn't in the lexicon. It wasn't in the lexicon. Damachek.

[Dave Zaslow]

The idea that it's Jimmy Olsen's fault at the end of the climactic third act is a Crazy. Hey, Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane saved the day. Like, hey, no, no, no, Superman. You're supposed to do it in the big spot. You didn't do it, man.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard Can I tell you something? I don't know, maybe like a month ago and I decided to watch Pitch Clock and I told Jeremy Stugats, this is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Roy]

Dave, you're playing Hot tub Hot Take Time Machine right now and you're applying modern day conversation tactics to things that were happening back then. You're saying, oh, this idea that is Jimmy Olsen's fault. No, no one was ever even saying it was so and so's fault. It was just, hey, these guys are great, but they never won. So what?

[Dave Zaslow]

They're so great because we're in it now. Lamar Jackson. It's starting to happen, though. It has happened over the last couple of years and it's going to intensify on Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen with each passing postseason ending without a Lombardi. It gets a little bit hotter. But there is still sort of the is this going to be the year? Okay, now they have, they, they, they finally got rid of McDermott and new this should be Josh Allen's year. If they don't do it this year, it's going to get even worse. And when the only when it ends, is it like, wow, Dan Marino really never won a Lombardi. The guy who was in the conversation for best quarterback ever didn't win a Super Bowl. Well, now he's out of that conversation. That's how it goes.

[Roy]

Because the way it we talk about things have. That's my whole point.

[Dave Zaslow]

Titles always.

[Roy]

No, it didn't. What are you talking about?

[Dave Zaslow]

You know, it.

[Roy]

No, it didn't. No, it didn't. In 1998, if you ask someone who's the greatest player in basketball history, what would the answer be in 1998? Who? Michael Jordan.

[Dave Zaslow]

Right.

[Roy]

What about 1993?

[Dave Zaslow]

Magic?

[Roy]

No, 93. People were still saying Michael people Were saying Michael Jordan 93.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Roy]

After the three peat.

[Dave Zaslow]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Zaslow]

Okay. So he's been winning title, but Magic

[Roy]

had five and Bill Russell had 11. This idea that the ring counter, that's where it is. That's where the end all be all of every conversation. This is a modern invention. This is a modern invention, Dave.

[Dave Zaslow]

No, that's a rhetorical argument you're making. No, but the jive is that once you get into being, it's not a fluke that you won one title. This guy's been the best player on the championship winning team more than once. And all of that, that becomes. Everybody's going crazy back there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, Mike is so happy, right?

[Dave Zaslow]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me explain what's going on.

[Dave Zaslow]

I don't know why he's going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike is so happy.

[Roy]

The curtain.

[Dan Le Batard]

Today's the day. All right. Skip Bayless is back. Skip Bayless. After being away, I believe 10 years, Skip Bayless is back on ESPN television split screening, debating on First Take with Stephen A. Smith and Mike. Mike Ryan just told me now it's not as if they have the volume on in there. It's just on the screen on mute, like it isn't here for us, Dave. But Mike whispers in my ear, still got it.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Do you know what? He came out the gates with Skip Colon. Lakers are better without Luka.

[Roy]

I'm telling you guys, the moment he knew he would be on, he's like, he said, let me start scripting top tier S class type stuff. I can't come with some lukewarm, oh, is Dan Marino the biggest loser of all time? What? I'm like, no, I gotta come with some heat, take some notes. Damage. That's how you do it.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

He's called Luca, the most inefficient player in the NBA.

[Dave Zaslow]

Do you have to back that up?

[Jeremy Stugats]

That, that's, that's not right.

[Dave Zaslow]

What does the majority think? Oh, then what? Then I'm gonna defend the minority. I'm gonna come up with Takamami reason to dig in and defend the minority opinion on everything. And as a result, I'll get credit

[Dan Le Batard]

for making you think Dave hates it.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You got to understand what he's doing

[Dan Le Batard]

here by saying a master class.

[Jeremy Stugats]

This is incredible because you know already what his angle is. So I'm not going to let you let LeBron off the hook if he loses this series because they are better without Luca. I am raising the expectations and the bar for the Luca Les La Lakers. Therefore, I can really give it to Bron.

[Roy]

You see how he's Doing it. This is the. The tactic, right? It's like, how do I make it? So it's LeBron's fault, right? If we allow that Luka's great and the Lakers are better with Luka, then it's not LeBron's fault if they lose. But if we say that Luka's overrated, inefficient, and they're actually better without him, now when they lose to the Thunder handily, it is LeBron's fault. It's like when he said Bronny more clutch than his father.

[Dave Zaslow]

All right, he's way wealthier than I am, so I'm not going to argue about his approach versus my approach. But it's cockamamie jive that he's slinging. I mean, LeBron is to do the cross sports comp is John Elway. He is admirable for getting those bum rosters with the Cavs that he was on early in his career to the finals. They had no business playing for titles. And except that LeBron dragged them there. Same way with John Elway. It's not winning. Those two Lombardi's at the tail end of his career owed more to Terrell Davis, obviously, than John Elway's play. It was Elway dragging three Broncos teams and at least the first two that you look at in the 80s. Those rosters are garbage or at best, hot mediocrity. And he took them to Super Bowls in the age of Marino and otherwise. Those are their greatest deeds. And it doesn't change the fact. Talk about living in the world in which as it exists versus the one you want. Everybody reacts to the titles. The enduring legends are the ones who win the titles. That's how it goes. You can argue with me about that, but that's. You're digging in on nonsense. Then of course, the guys who win all the titles are the ones who we celebrate most 25 years after the fact.

[Roy]

You're changing. You're changing.

[Jeremy Stugats]

No, I'm not.

[Roy]

You're changing the point. You're changing the basic conversation.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys are losing the plot here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Skip, still got it.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeremy Stugats]

They're asking right now, would Luca on the floor make a difference difference in this series? And I have the captions now. Thank you, Tech team. No, because I have just laid out the argument that Luka's the most inefficient player in the NBA and the Lakers are playing much better.

[Mike Ryan]

I never thought I would do this, but guys, go on. We need to give Skip Bayless a toast.

[Dave Zaslow]

Oh, wow.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Presented by Cuervo. Just. I didn't know you still had it, sir.

[Dan Le Batard]

Still got it.

[Mike Ryan]

It's on me, not on you. You're fantastic. Worth a toast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Keep it.

[Mike Ryan]

Keep it, Cuervo. Thank you. Skip Bayless, I mean, just.

[Roy]

I still do.

[Mike Ryan]

He's still doing the thing where he, like, points. He's, like, poking the desk.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, moving forward.

[Dan Le Batard]

Never lost a debate. Oh, never.

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't think I missed him, but I miss him. Here's to you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll tell you this. I would imagine that this show, first take today, will do a pretty big number compared to what they been getting. I mean, how do you not then have a conversation about bringing Skip Bayless back, like, regularly? Right?

[Dave Zaslow]

Amen. Amen.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Jeremy Stugats]

You're. You're 100%.

[Mike Ryan]

You calling this a tryout today? Essentially.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Oh, he knows what's on the line.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Skip Bayless probably views it as a tryout.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Stugats]

And he's got his good stuff. They. They showed him walking in and preparing. He knows what's he's playing, the hits.

[Dave Zaslow]

Does he get the football or, you know.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, it's g. It's go time.

[Dave Zaslow]

When Stephen A. Does his shoulder shrug. To move his. To move his shirt, his suit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jack, show me.

[Dave Zaslow]

He does. He does this a lot.

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The question.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah, he does a lot of this thing to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't.

[Dave Zaslow]

I don't know what the move is exactly.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like the eye roll saying the little jolt forward.

[Roy]

I like the eye roll.

[Mike Ryan]

I am.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

Let me tell you something.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm curious how Stephen A. Will play this, though, as we can't really hear what he's saying. Do you think he'll throw at him at any point? Okay, we get it. You're trying to make a splash. Like. Or will he just stick to the topic?

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

Stephen A.

[Dan Le Batard]

You want to like, will he call

[Mike Ryan]

him out for being like. I get what you're. You get one day here. You're trying to do a thing. Cause that's what I would call.

[Jeremy Stugats]

No, no. This was very much his idea. Skip Bayless is not get on without Stephen A. Wanting him to have this opportunity to show the execs that he still got it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like it.

[Jeremy Stugats]

I don't know if you read the trades, but there's a little management shakeup happening over at espn. So let me show you what this man is capable of.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like it.

[Dave Zaslow]

How jealous.

[Mike Ryan]

How jealous Think Mad Dog is right now watching this?

[Roy]

Oh, he's got Wednesdays.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but.

[Dave Zaslow]

But he's just.

[Mike Ryan]

He sees what could Happen from this Mike.

[Dave Zaslow]

I'd like to see you, I could see you elevating to a role like this. You've got that kind of gravitas. The only concern I have is can you make the serious sports gravitas face? That's required. Because you see, when they're in their listening phase, it's very serious business. Let's see if you can affect.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Well, here's the hack to it. Let me be very, very clear.

[Roy]

Very, very clear.

[Mike Ryan]

Goosebumps.

[Roy]

Very, very clear. Let me be there.

[Dave Zaslow]

Very clear listening. Faces like this, I think like most important thing in the world.

[Roy]

Got to have a little nod to it too. Like a little bit of. Cuz you, you, you're, you're still kind of acknowledging.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, not that face. Unless, Unless you got to work on this.

[Dave Zaslow]

I can't do it now. I, I ain't got it. That's it.

[Jeremy Stugats]

And occasionally, and this is from mainly watching Shannon Sharpe is you have to go. Someone else makes a point, does it more on his.

[Roy]

On Club Shay Shay than he did on Undisputed.

[Dave Zaslow]

I think Zaslow's backwards hat would bring an element of excitement.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Can you imagine that? Look, I, I, I work at espn and if maybe they call me in one day over the summer and do first take, I wear the hat and everything.

[Roy]

Would you wear the hat?

[Dan Le Batard]

I try.

[Roy]

Would you wear a suit?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know.

[Jeremy Stugats]

They don't fit. We established this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I mean, I saw, I saw the kid Miro on Yesterday or today's Go. You're not wearing a suit. He's in there with a hat and everything. Why can't I.

[Roy]

That's, this is my look. That's his brand.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is my brand.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm, I'm telling you, Mad Dog is rooting for today to go poorly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mad Dog, you don't want it to go well. Today would be amazing.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just saying, though, he wants to be the old guy on that show.

[Roy]

Guys, guys, let me take you inside the mind of Stephen A. Smith. The whole idea is to populate different days of the week with his, with his rogue gallery of rogues, right. It's like Wednesdays are Mad Dog, his rogue White Fridays, or Skip Bayless. Right? He'll get some other people throughout the week. And now he's the one calling the shots. Because ultimately first take is about Stephen A.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's an executive producer of the show.

[Dave Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Roy]

I mean, that Mad Dog is on because of Stephen A. Zaz.

[Dave Zaslow]

Here's another important element. If you're Skip or most of These guys ask me A or B.

[Roy]

A. No, ask him.

[Dan Le Batard]

You want me to ask?

[Mike Ryan]

Trying to help.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you?

[Dave Zaslow]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you asking me?

[Roy]

A or B?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh,

[Dave Zaslow]

you need to proceed it with that. Yeah, I'm real. You just hit me. You just hit me with something I've never thought about before. And that's heavy, bro.

[Mike Ryan]

What other rogue whites could he fill in the rest of the week with? If he has Wednesdays with Mad Dogs?

[Roy]

Will Kane.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, that's a good one. Will Kane.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, Will Kane.

[Roy]

Who else? We need someone who's like a real Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

Would be terrible.

[Roy]

No, you can't have anyone.

[Jeremy Stugats]

I got one that I'm surprised. Hasn't happened yet.

[Roy]

Who's that?

[Jeremy Stugats]

Roy. You're getting warm. Yeah. Hannity, Tucker Carlson. I think Tucker should make his way there.

[Mike Ryan (alternate or guest)]

What about. What about Daddy Trump?

[Jeremy Stugats]

What's going on?

[Dan Le Batard]

But let's talk about sports.

[Dave Zaslow]

Doing. What are we. What are we doing?

[Mike Ryan]

Huh?

[Dave Zaslow]

The great move that he uses, that Pete Hegseth uses is to start to laugh. And there's something intimidating about people laughing while you're attempting a serious point. Bullies understand that. What you think? You think that that's what you think.

[Roy]

God, I think I do that. I don't know.

[Jeremy Stugats]

The Lakers are better without Luca, and that should scare you.

[Dave Zaslow]

Am I saying that Luca isn't a great player? Of course not. A lot of self interviewing happens.

[Jeremy Stugats]

Why would I? That would be wrong.

[Mike Ryan]

Dave Portnoy.

[Jeremy Stugats]

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