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Mike
Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.
Julian
Oh, come on.
Mike
They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia trip planner to collaborate on all the details of the trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool.
Julian
Whatever.
Mike
You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia made to travel.
Julian
Do you love Julie Van Low? Because that's how you say it.
Alex
Sure. Julie Van Low is my least favorite.
Sierra
She said. Wait, hang on. It's Van Low.
Julian
Yeah. She said in her country, which is Belgium. It's pronounced. The oo is O, so it's really Van Loe, but she just let folk get away with it. Breaking news. You hear it here first. Kurt Loder. I don't know when to start. Look at me. I don't know what to do with my hands nor when to start. All I know is this is the alley oop. Welcome back. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for locking in. Welcome the people in and give them your introductions, my sister, starting with you, Alex.
Alex
Oh, you're so sweet. Juju. Yes. Hi, I'm Alex. I'm one of the co founders of Flagrant magazine, longtime listener, first time guest of this poem. So very excited.
Julian
You don't have to lie, Craig. You don't got to lie to kick it, Craig. You know, you never heard this podcast a day in your life, but soon it's going to be bigger than Shannon. Sharpen them, I promise. Watching the streets. Little birdie told me a little something something.
Alex
Okay, let's go.
Julian
My sister Sierra. Welcome to the Alley youth. How are you doing today?
Sierra
I'm doing so good. I'm so happy to be here. I'm Sierra. I'm the host of Pickup, which is Flagrants basketball podcast. And I'm excited to be here because Juju is one of our favorite guests to have on the podcast. I think you're either tied or the person who's been on it the most. So I'm excited to be here and return the fake burger.
Julian
My sisters, come on here. Lying. They ready to lie, ladies and gentlemen. Now I'm the best guest. Lord Jesus, if you salute to my sister, get you some friends that lie about you into your face like my friends. You feel me kicking it off right now. Sydney the kidney Coulson went down. Airy the prairie McDonald went down. Talk about it, y'. All. How disappointing is that for the fever? Who playing pretty good without Caitlin Clark, you feel me? Starting with you, Sierra?
Sierra
Yeah, it sucks. I missed it. I didn't. I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't watching the game. And all of a sudden I get a text from Alex. It's like, do we have any update from Sid? And I was like, what are we doing something with her? Like, are we hanging out? Like, what are we doing? No. That sucks. Courtney Vandersloot posted on her story that I think her and Sidney are the last two people in that 2011 draft class. And now they both were their ACLs, and she was, like, going to come back stronger, and I was Like, I really need you too.
Alex
So thank you for saying honestly.
Julian
All right.
Sierra
Just sucks.
Julian
What about you, Alex?
Alex
Well, I feel bad for Sid because it happened the day after her birthday. It was the game where she was wearing her birthday fit and she was, like, feeling herself, looked amazing. And I. It was just. I also didn't see it live, but I was on a call with Ashton and she was like, oh, my God. And I was like, no, why? And as soon as I saw the video, it was just, you know, one of those ghost things where you just. They fall and you're like, oh, that's bad. That's bad. No contact injury. Bad. Bad.
Julian
Yeah, right? Snipers on the roof.
Alex
Yeah, exactly. I think, Sid, you're right. Like, she's been a great backup to Caitlyn. She's been great in the locker room. And obviously any. Any team would be lucky to have Sydney Coulson. And I hope that she's able to recover and come back because I don't want this to be her last season. And this how she goes out. Like, how devastating. So I'm not even thinking that way. I'm just assuming she's gonna get better because she's. Yeah, I don't know.
Sierra
She probably actually have, like, a really short recovery time and come back, like, even better. And maybe taller.
Alex
Probably taller. Probably taller, for sure.
Julian
You know what? I've seen that happen. Aaron McDonald as well. She was playing great for them, dog. Like, they. She was dropped by or the. The LA Sparks this year, earlier this year, and came in and was ready. She didn't have to get ready because she was already there. And she came in with the stutter steps, the hesit hesitation, the tray balls lately. I mean, what a great pickup for them. And now she's out the rest of the year with a dang broke bone in her foot. You feel me? Like, is there any words y' all got on that as well?
Sierra
Yeah, it just, like, it double sucks. It sucks for people to be doing well and then get hurt. Like, obviously it sucks when anybody gets hurt. But to be having that kind of, like, comeback season, especially for players like these two who. It's not like they're, you know, superstars in their prime who have a guaranteed roster spot. You know, thinking about how this is, like, gonna set them back also, just, like, as players.
Julian
Yeah, players as well.
Alex
I think it's like, just a continuation of the crazy injury year that the NBA had. Like, I'm just like, can everyone stop. Can everyone just stop getting hurt? I don't know what happened this year, but it was a bad year for legs.
Julian
Get well soon, Said. You got to know we love you. You're a pioneer. You are inspiration for so many people out there, including myself. You're getting your acting on, you're getting everything happening, man, but neither here nor there. Moving on. My name is Julian and I like to do this with most of our guests that don't have media responsibilities and can't get in trouble for this. As an Atlanta Dream fan, we own the Phoenix Mercury. We are their dads, we are their moms. They. They can't even speak without us being being spoken to first. Salute to db. Salute to at. But we just swept them for the season. Didn't want no problems. Belt to butt. We didn't even have Brittney Grind the last game. Neither here nor there. Alex, who are you, what do you represent and who do you hate?
Alex
My name is Alex. I represent myself here in this podcast and I have to say this is just by default. As a Portland native, I hate the LA Sparks because I cannot support an LA team. Just full stop, full every sport. I can't do it. Sorry.
Julian
Who's your least favorite player on the Sparks?
Alex
Well, that's the thing. I don't have a least favorite player on the Sparks because I actually like the players on the Sparks. Like some fun players. I like Lexi a lot. I like Cameron.
Julian
Cowards way out. I mean, just pick someone. Azare Rakia. Who don't you like? You don't like somebody. Are you a big fan of Julie Alaman? Do you love Julie Van Low? Because that's how you say it.
Alex
Sure. Julie Van Lowe is my least favorite.
Sierra
She said. Wait, hang on. It's Van Low.
Julian
Yeah. She said in her country, which is Belgium, it's pronounced the OO is O. So it's really Van Low. But she just let folk get away with it. Breaking news. You hear it here first. Kurt Loder.
Sierra
Oh, that. You know who.
Julian
That's.
Sierra
That's a scoop for Girl Shams. We should put that out there.
Alex
I thought it was Van Loo because.
Sierra
Yeah, it's too like Waterloo, right?
Julian
Yeah, because you're Americanized and the system and the man got his foot on your neck and you don't even realize.
Alex
Yeah, and it hurts.
Sierra
Waterloo from the opposite where they invented it.
Julian
But yeah, also too to throw in there. Before you could tell us your favorite and person to hate in the entire wnba. Sierra Odyssey Sims just signed with the Fever. Breaking news as well. So she will, I think would be a great piece over there. I skipped over that earlier, but salute to odd. Getting it done. She was a spark, but she must have felt like. Alex, get me out of here. I'm waiting for the fire now. Sierra, it's on you.
Sierra
I'm Sierra. I represent everybody over six feet tall, and I think this is crazy. You're gonna have to hear me out. I hate the Aces. I think it's crazy. I think it's. And here's why. It's so crazy to have that many likable and cool players on your team and have your team vibes be that bad. Asia, just. Which it was like, what, 30? And what was the double.
Julian
Double 30 and 20. The first player ever.
Sierra
Are you out of your mind? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And still, every time I watch the Aces, I'm like, oh, okay.
Alex
Yes. It's like the Brooklyn Nets when they had all those guys on them, but they still. The vibes were so bad. It's, like, so much. So much talent. But we've talked about this before. It's. Yeah, there's something going on back there, bro.
Julian
I know what's going on. I know why the vibe's so damn bad. Allegedly. Now, I don't know what's the cause of this, but Becky, does she make her. All her assistant coaches wear them hoodies under them blazers like that, or is that the same color and everything, man, my Bible be down, too.
Alex
They're all. And they are restricted in their motion.
Sierra
Oh, my God. They're so overstimulated. They're just, like, on the sidelines, like, tactilely. They're, like, out of here in Vegas, too.
Julian
Exactly.
Sierra
The most stimulating city in the world.
Alex
Yeah.
Julian
Becky, it is 200 degrees outside. Can I not wear my hoodie with blazer combo tonight? Ma', am? Is that okay with you?
Alex
They make them now. I was just shopping at a store for people who are older than me, I would like to think. And there was one suit jacket where the hoodie was sewn into it, just the front and the back. It wasn't fully in it, but it was to look like that. And I was like, wow, this. There's really a market for this. There must be. And it feels like it's more tech CEO kind of outfit than, like, head coach back CEO.
Julian
I mean, I'm here all week, but who is your prediction for champion this year? Because the links look like it. Now, I got a. I got a couple of things I can sell y' all about the Atlanta dream in about four or five minutes. But who will y' all pick for the championship this year? Because the Links right now, like you said, them adding DJ the stud was looking better than ever. Wild Nafisa, Kyle, you're gone. Kayla McBride done put the pink in her hair. And guess what? Not. Not. Who's there. An extra stud. You feel me? So who do y' all think? Starting with you, Sierra?
Sierra
I mean, I think. I think it's gonna be the Links I had last season. I was also like, oh, the Links could win the championship. But then the Liberty were also very scary. And so I was never like, it's the Links, for sure. This, like, the Liberty have not proven to me that they can beat the Links. Obviously, Stewie's hurt, but, like, okay, they have so many other players. They shouldn't be getting blown out like that if they want me to take them seriously. I think the Mercury are fun, and I'm always willing to buy in on the Atlanta Dream because I like them. So I know you're like, the Mercury.
Julian
Sorry, Magic word.
Alex
Oh, my God.
Julian
I'm gonna let you go first, though, Alex. Who do you think will win the chip this year?
Alex
So I'm so. I sort of, like, watch patterns. So, like, with the injury thing that I was saying, I. I see the fact that okc, who won the overall vibes check in the NBA this year, won the championship. That's why I think the Lynx will win, because I think that's going to happen for them, too. They're the best vibes. But I could see something weird happening where, like, the Liberty still win and it's annoying.
Julian
Yeah.
Alex
So I could see that happening.
Julian
They go from your favorite team now. They might.
Alex
They might even win. How annoying. They were just my favorite team.
Julian
Exactly.
Alex
You know what, juju? Life comes at you fast. Keep up. Keep up.
Julian
I'm trying to. I didn't stretch before that part, but I'm finna to keep up. But they've been out. They've been without Brianna Stewart, you feel me, for the last, what, couple of games. And they've injected Emma Meesiman, which I think will prove down the line to be one of the best pickups we've seen thus far. I think that the Liberty have done a great job executively, and after a championship season, like, they deserve a round of applause. Big Ellie got new dance moves every two hours. The Atlanta Dream. This is why the Atlanta Dream are going to win the championship this year. Let's do some more math for with Alex. First of all, the top teams all year that's been above them has been the Lynx, the Liberty, and some little sun team called the Phoenix Mercury who nobody likes. We dog smack the Mercury. They don't count. They're not even here anymore. Forget about them deliberately. We were up 17 points in the game that could have sent us to the Commissioner Cup. We were up another 16 points in the fourth quarter. The other time we played in New York, we just got situ. We can't handle situations correctly, but we supposed to or could have won those two games. And when they came to Atlanta, we kicked. They assumed they behinds. We. We smacked the behinds of the Liberty, the Minnesota Lynx, they came to Atlanta, they won by two points, a couple points in overtime. They needed everything. The power got knocked out neither here nor there. And we made history. First team to beat the Minnesota Lynx in their home gym this year even though they lost the Commissioner cup in the gym. Neither here nor there. We kick ass when it comes to it. The Vinyl won. The. You would have never said the vinyl are gonna beat the Owls this year in the unravel. Would you have Alex?
Alex
No, I would not have.
Julian
Would you have Sierra?
Sierra
No, I would not have.
Julian
The Atlanta Dream. I win in the NBA championship, WNBA championship this year and I put everything on it. Back to you, Sierra. I don't know. You don't even have a topic, but just back to you.
Sierra
Okay.
Alex
I love it.
Sierra
I'm in.
Alex
Yeah, I mean, me too. And you're right. It kind of is like if they can step up when it counts, that's really all that matters. Like the. The rest of the season just gets you there. But like that doesn't. Nothing matters until you can actually play the in the games that are important enough. So I'm with you. Also, I'm a huge Alicia Gray fan. So if the Dream won, I would be so.
Sierra
I'd be so happy.
Alex
Excited for her.
Julian
Yes. Salute the big Al man. But yeah, moving on though. So we all agree. Atlanta Dream champions. If you guys were the Commissioner of the WNBA. Salute to Ms. Kathy sometimes and most.
Alex
Of the times I'm gonna do an upside down salute.
Julian
How would you handle the Doe situation we have right now within the W? We're not gonna say the first three letters, but the last letters are dough. If you were commissioner. Alex. Let's go to Alex first. How would you handle the dough situation?
Alex
Oh, I thought you were talking.
Julian
Yeah, talking about the other. Now that's gonna take a whole bunch of heads to put together right there.
Alex
Okay, let's see. How would I handle it? I Would. I don't know. I would, like, have a press conference where I said that this is, like, zero tolerance. You're going to be banned from the arena. If you do this, we're going to arrest you. This is like, basically sexual harassment of the players, and it's not funny. It could, like. I mean, I don't want to say it could hurt somebody, because if she said that, I would be like, okay, come on. But I think it's harassment. I think it's sexual harassment, and I think it's just like, zero tolerance policy. You're fully. You're going to be removed. Although I will say, I don't know. The people that are buying tickets and doing that are, like huge WNBA fans. So I don't know if banning them from the arena is really going to do much, but I think arresting them. Not a big, you know, prison industrial complex fan over here, but maybe arresting them will deter people from doing it. So I might say something.
Julian
I didn't want to interrupt you, but you said, like, hurt some. It's going to hurt someone, and you like or whatever. Do you think it's not gonna hurt by catching a steaming fastball 90 mph from section CC?
Alex
So these are rubber does, right?
Julian
I mean, I have no idea how.
Alex
Does work throwing anything on the court. I mean, weren't this has happened in football games, too, where people have thrown. That's why they made, like, the different beer bottles, right? Because people are throwing, like, Coors light bottles onto the field. So, yeah, you're right, Sierra. I mean, it could, like, escalate if a new.
Julian
What if it hit somebody in the eye? I don't care if it's just all rubber. Hit Sophie in the foot the other day, so it's got traction. And in Atlanta, when they first threw it, it hit the free throw line. During your Valkyrie's, like, chance to win the game with, like, under 20 seconds left, that thing hit somebody square between the eyes.
Sierra
It's a bummer because, like, the first time it happened, the novelty and the, like, randomness of it was like, oh, that's funny. And then Sid was. You know, Sid was doing her character. And then the second it happened again, it's like, well, okay, you guys, you ruined it.
Julian
You're right, though, Brad. At a certain point, if it was funny, it ran its course already. We don't need that, man. This ain't even funny no more, bro. It's like, what is really happening? You're really being disrespectful. As if you word right now, because if you really think about it, like, bro, what's the messaging behind that, bruh? Why? Why you be doing this? I know Tom Brady got you feel me? They threw in the end zone. I'm a Buffalo Bills fan. Let's go, Buffalo. It's our season every year. But at the same time, these women on the basketball court with no helmet, no pads, just them and the Rock. Yeah, I mean, them and the Mamba mentality, they don't need that flying in with the play. Come on, bro. What is you doing? What are we doing? But like I said, just to remind y', all, the Phoenix Mercury ain't.
Alex
This is all to say.
Julian
I said all that to say they need to work on somebody over there. Like, I'm talking about, they might not even Boy P you. I love Sammy Wickham. That's my sister. You already know. We go back Sammy sound. But I don't like your team, man. And I love all of y'. All. I choose not to like the Phoenix Mercury. They can kiss my ass until infinity.
Sierra
Okay, Is Satu playing again? Because she was sitting out, right?
Julian
She was sitting out for a while, but she been back. Now she's been on a menace restriction, but she been back and she been kicking a little ass. For real.
Sierra
Okay, that's good.
Julian
Yeah. The unicorn.
Sierra
Exactly.
Julian
Any last words before we get up out of here? Y' all been fan. I could talk to y' all for three days, you feel me? But Ms. Rebecca said we gotta wrap this up because she got bills to pay.
Alex
Oh, that was fair. That's. That's fair.
Julian
And Ms. Rebecca didn't say that I'm gonna do this. Ms. Rebecca is not like that. She did not say that. But salute to her and Dylan for keeping us together, man. But any last words, y'? All? Where can we find y'? All? What's your Instagram? What'? Your Twitter. Do not turn your Instagram location on, please. There are murderers out there.
Sierra
My final words is go into your Instagram settings and make sure they didn't automatically turn on your location. I manage a brand account that has, like, 160,000 followers. Imagine if my location had been turned on, bruh.
Julian
Come on, man.
Sierra
And they show up to my apartment.
Alex
Luigi, that's so crazy.
Julian
What's your Instagram, though, Sierra? Tell them.
Sierra
Definitely follow flagrant mag on Instagram and listen to our podcast. It's called Pickup.
Julian
Yeah, that's. What about you, Alex?
Alex
I'm on Instagram. I post too much, but I don't need anyone following me there. Follow Flagrant mag. Follow the Girl Shams. The Girl Shams on the blue sky and Twitter. That's basically Shams Charania for the wnba. So if you got any hot tips, slide into our DMs and we'll post it there.
Sierra
You know it's the right account because it's girl. It's Girl Shams. It's Shams. But he has a bow and eyelashes.
Julian
Oh, that's how you can tell.
Alex
Yeah.
Julian
See what you got going on?
Alex
It's a little bit of Ms. Pac man situation.
Julian
Our 13 listeners are dudes, so stay out of the DM. Just add them, mention them from your account so everyone can see I'm not.
Sierra
I'm not answering any DMs.
Julian
Okay? Yeah. 100 love from me to y', all, always and forever. I got y' all back if y' all ever need me. Thank y' all for listening and tuning in to the alley. Ooh, another one. Salute to Ms. Rebecca. Salute to Dylan. I see you catch us in the same place next week or two days from now. Same bad channel. Lock us in. Thank y' all for joining. Thanks for watching the show. Please take time and help a brother out and subscribe to DLS Hoops right now. You feel me? Howdy, everybody.
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Episode Title: Stop Throwing ‘Dos and No Love For the Mercury w/ Ciara & Alex of the Pick Up | ALLEY OOP (Ep 15)
Release Date: August 14, 2025
In this episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz welcome special guests Alex and Sierra from Pick Up, a basketball podcast affiliated with Flagrant Magazine. The hosts express excitement about having longtime listeners join the conversation for the first time.
Julian (Dan Le Batard): "Hi, I'm Alex. I'm one of the co-founders of Flagrant magazine, longtime listener, first-time guest of this podcast. So very excited." (03:05)
Sierra: "I'm Sierra. I'm the host of Pickup, which is Flagrant's basketball podcast. And I'm excited to be here because Juju is one of our favorite guests to have on the podcast." (03:33)
A significant portion of the discussion centers around recent injuries in the WNBA, specifically focusing on Sydney Coulson and Alicia Gray. The guests and hosts express concern over the impact of these injuries on their teams and the players' careers.
Sierra: "Courtney Vandersloot posted on her story that I think she and Sydney are the last two people in that 2011 draft class. And now they both were their ACLs, and she was, like, going to come back stronger." (04:57)
Alex: "I think it's devastating. I don't want this to be her last season. She's a great backup to Caitlyn, and any team would be lucky to have Sydney Coulson." (05:03)
Julian: "Sidney is a pioneer. You are an inspiration for so many people out there, including myself." (07:19)
The conversation highlights the frustration with the high number of injuries this season, particularly to players who are not superstars but still crucial to their teams.
The hosts and guests delve into the dynamics of various WNBA teams, debating their prospects for the championship. The Atlanta Dream emerges as the favorite among the panel, despite acknowledging strong competition from teams like the Minnesota Lynx and the New York Liberty.
Sierra: "I think it's gonna be the Lynx or the Liberty. The Liberty have not proven they can beat the Lynx." (12:31)
Alex: "I think the Lynx will win because they have the best vibes, but something weird could happen with the Liberty." (13:19)
Julian: "The Atlanta Dream are going to win the championship this year. I put everything on it." (16:11)
The panel discusses key players, team chemistry, and recent performances, emphasizing the Atlanta Dream's potential to clinch the title.
A pressing issue discussed is the “Doe” situation, which refers to reported sexual harassment incidents affecting players. The panel offers their perspectives on how the WNBA should address such misconduct.
Julian: "If you were commissioner, how would you handle the Doe situation?" (17:03)
Alex: "I would have a zero-tolerance policy. Banning them from the arena and possibly arresting them to deter future incidents." (17:25)
Sierra: "It's disrespectful and sends a negative message. It needs to be addressed firmly." (19:44)
The guests advocate for stricter enforcement and harsher penalties to protect players and maintain the integrity of the league.
Towards the end of the episode, Sierra and Alex share important tips regarding social media safety, emphasizing the importance of managing location settings to protect personal privacy.
Sierra: "Go into your Instagram settings and make sure they didn't automatically turn on your location. I manage a brand account with 160,000 followers. Imagine if my location had been turned on." (21:07)
Julian: "Do not turn your Instagram location on, please. There are murderers out there." (21:07)
This segment underscores the need for vigilance in personal online safety, especially for individuals with large online followings.
The episode wraps up with the hosts and guests exchanging final thoughts, promoting their respective social media accounts, and expressing gratitude to listeners.
Julian: "Thank you for listening and tuning in to the alley. Cheers to you all." (23:01)
Alex: "Follow Flagrant mag on Instagram and listen to our podcast, Pickup." (22:22)
Sierra: "Follow Flagrant mag on Instagram and listen to our podcast, Pickup." (22:13)
The hosts encourage listeners to engage with their content across various platforms and sign off with enthusiasm for future episodes.
Julian: "You're made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition." (02:11)
Alex: "Julie Van Low is my least favorite." (08:13)
Julian: "Build the Atlanta Dream into WNBA champions this year." (16:11)
Alex: "Zero tolerance policy. You're going to be removed." (17:25)
Sierra: "I hate the Aces. It's crazy to have so many likable and cool players with bad team vibes." (10:00)
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from Episode 15 of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, providing an informative overview for those who haven't listened to the episode.