The B** S***: SO DID WE! (feat. Chuckle F***)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: "The B** S***: SO DID WE!" (feat. Chuckle F***)

Date: November 25, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the constant debate over Miami's College Football Playoff (CFP) hopes, pitting Miami against Notre Dame in a passionate, often exasperated discussion about fairness, bias, and the merits of "head-to-head" wins. The hosts and guests dive into the nuances of playoff selection, expose perceived media narratives, and weave in classic show banter—including local sports beefs, funny production goofs, and a spirited run on Thanksgiving food and NFL antics. The tone blends fiery frustration, good-natured ribbing, and irreverence typical of the Le Batard crew.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Miami vs. Notre Dame: The CFP Debate

• Main Argument: Should Miami, who beat Notre Dame, get into the playoffs over a similarly-recorded Notre Dame team?
• Mike's Frustration: Mike repeatedly argues that "games matter," the committee is ignoring head-to-head, and Miami is being punished by narrative bias despite deserving recognition.
  • [06:12] Mike: "The rankings are going to come out today and Miami is once again going to be on the outside looking in... Notre Dame is going to be in... How can that be when Miami beat them?"
• Chris Cody's Weariness: Chris pokes fun at how circular and exhausting this debate is, despite agreeing with core points.
  • [05:56] Chris Cody: "Is anyone else tired of this as subject matter?"
• Dan Le Batard's Perspective: Dan gently mocks Mike’s obsessive focus but ultimately acknowledges the emotional stakes.
  • [05:58] Dan: "It's partly to blame when the person who centered the entire thing..."
• Confirmation Bias and Brand Power: Mike argues that Miami is fighting not just the rankings, but media/conference preferences for “brands” like Notre Dame.
  • [04:56] Mike: "There's a lot of confirmation bias because Miami was underranked... Notre Dame gets to be a different team after their losses, but not Miami?"

2. Media Narratives, Bias, and Local Beefs

• Accusations Against ESPN, AP Voters, and Broadcasters:
  • Mike accuses media, especially the AP and ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit and Joey Galloway, of perpetuating "bullshit" against Miami.
    • [07:49] Mike: "Joey Galloway, don't take anything that guy says seriously because he's just a shit stirrer."
  • Calls out Miami Herald’s Jordan McPherson for voting Notre Dame ahead of Miami.
    • [22:15] Mike: "Jordan McPherson, AP voter? Ranked Miami behind Notre Dame as a Miami Herald writer... There is a war on football."
  • Criticizes Bob Washuzen (playfully called “Chuckle”) and Lou Riddick for parroting the committee's anti-Miami stance in broadcasts.
    • [21:07] Mike: "He [Bob] disrespected me by perpetuating this narrative... They're pawns."
• Inside Joke: “Chuckle”
  • Bob Washuzen is given the affectionate yet pointed nickname, leading to some mock outrage and playful debate about respect in the local market.
    • [20:58] Tony: "Him going after Bob like their friends."
    • [24:58] Mike: "Don't talk to me like I didn't take this complaint directly to Bob Washoesen."
• On-air Call-Outs and Banter:
  • The crew debates whether publicly calling a reputable broadcaster “Chuckle” is disrespectful or just classic show humor.

3. The Eye-Rolling “So Did We” Opera & Bit Repetition

• Throughout, especially in the first 10 minutes, Mike and others echo the phrase “So did we” in a chorus mocking cliché sports arguments and cyclical debate.
  • [03:00] Chris Cody: "That was opera. So did we. That was Zaslo opera."

4. Fun, Tangents & Thanksgiving Traditions

• Thanksgiving Menu and Banter:
  • Rapper Plies’s elaborate fried turkey instructions get a passionate, comedic reading.
    • [30:56] Tony/Chris/Mike: (Collectively riffing on soaking turkey in Cajun butter)
    • [31:58] Zaslow: "I think he may have said blocking."
  • Jokes about the “Frito microphone,” a Thanksgiving food-related in-studio mystery.
    • [32:18] Chris Cody: "This microphone smells like crap."
• Production Gaffes:
  • Classic Le Batard “was it a curse word?” bleeping confusion with a Creighton basketball call.
    • [29:04] Chris Cody: "I wish you an effing foul."
    • [30:14] Zaslow: "No, I think we have the ability to know that..."

5. NFL Oddities and “The Punch”

• Zaslow’s Crusade Against Punching the Ball:
  • Zaslow recounts his controversial stance against defenders punching at the ball (“ban punching”), which turns into a running joke as he’s bombarded with tweets when an incident leads to on-field chaos.
    • [37:26] Chris Cody: "Any... Zazzle, don't act burdened... you want to ban punching in football."
    • [38:05] Zaslow: "I mean, I have an incredible amount of, you know about that dick punch tweets at me last night."
• Segue to "Criminal Football Acts":
  • The group breaks down a 49ers game incident, blending serious and absurd as they jokingly call for criminal charges over a punch.
    • [39:34] Chris Cody: "There need to be criminal charges for this."
    • [39:33] Mike: "He's a honker."

6. NFL and San Francisco 49ers Analysis

• The 49ers’ organizational toughness and durability is praised, with emphasis on their ability to overcome injuries and remain competitive.
  • [41:07] Zaslow: "Dolphins were in the hunt this weekend."
  • [44:01] Chris Cody: “This is not humanly sane… San Francisco goes through backup quarterbacks... they're eight and four and everyone knows they're going to be well coached.”

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• [06:12] Mike’s Key Frustration:
  "The rankings are going to come out today and Miami is once again going to be on the outside looking in... Notre Dame is going to be in... How can that be when Miami beat them?"
• [07:49] On Joey Galloway:
  "Joey Galloway, don't take anything that guy says seriously because he's just a shit stirrer." — Mike
• [21:07] On Bob Washuzen a.k.a. "Chuckle":
  "He disrespected me by perpetuating this narrative... They're pawns." — Mike
• [20:58] "Chuckle" Beef:
  "Him going after Bob like their friends." — Tony
• [24:58] Mike’s Defense:
  "Don't talk to me like I didn't take this complaint directly to Bob Washoesen."
• [39:34] On Football Fights:
  "There need to be criminal charges for this." — Chris Cody
• [37:26] On Zaslow's Ban-Punching Crusade:
  "Any... Zazzle, don't act burdened... you want to ban punching in football." — Chris Cody
• [05:56] Subject Fatigue:
  “Is anyone else tired of this as subject matter?” — Chris Cody
• [03:00] The Running Joke:
  "That was opera. So did we. That was Zaslo opera." — Chris Cody

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:23] Start of Miami/Notre Dame segment, “so did we” bit kicks off
• [05:56] Chris: "Is anyone else tired of this as subject matter?"
• [06:12] Mike's core playoff frustration
• [07:49] Joey Galloway’s role as “shit stirrer” described
• [20:58] “Chuckle” nickname and market respect debate erupts
• [21:07] Mike details his grievance with Bob Washuzen and Lou Riddick
• [24:58] Mike’s direct message to Washuzen, more “Chuckle” drama
• [29:04] Creighton announcer bleeping/run on production quirks
• [30:56] Rapper Plies's fried turkey monologue
• [37:26] Zaslow’s “ban all punching” football take gets roasted
• [39:34] Debate over “criminal” on-field punch/fight erupts
• [41:07] Praise for San Francisco 49ers’ resilience

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Final Notes and Tone

• Antics and heated debate are in full swing, but the group’s camaraderie and humor cut through, making tension lively, not mean-spirited.
• The spirited defense of Miami mixes righteous anger (“war on football!”), exasperation, and parody of the entire sports discourse machine.
• Show self-awareness remains high: they poke fun at their own rants, overbleeping, and Thanksgiving laziness.
• The episode’s rhythm is a trademark Le Batard blend—sports talk, meta-sports talk, local inside jokes, and episodes of outright ridiculousness (Chuckle F***, castrated turkeys, horse references, and more).

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Summary Conclusion:
A classic, madcap Le Batard Show episode: the crew goes all-in on Miami's CFP snub, skewers the flaws in the selection process—and the media’s role in narrative-building—while always circling back to communal laughter, South Florida in-jokes, and a healthy heap of self-mockery. If you missed it, you missed the platonic ideal of Miami sports talk: angry, funny, and (at least a little) full of crap.

Transcript

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[Chris Cody]

I've got to be honest, right now I am a little bit lightheaded because I just got to sit next to what I believe to be 20 years of radio excellence in this market. Where Zaslow, he. I don't know. His wings, his feathers came out and he hit Tony with you're high.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

You're out to lunch.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

Get a clue.

[Mike]

We.

[Chris Cody]

You played yourself.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

Yo, Ben Stiller looking like a fool.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

Adam Silver doing nothing.

[Mike]

So did we. On that.

[Chris Cody]

That was opera. So did we. That was Zaslo opera. As Mike's yelling snowballs chance in hell.

[Mike]

So did we. No one's answered my question. Let me try this again. So did we. What was the question? Because it was a long. Yeah, it was a Dan Levitar type question. I get it. I get it was a dance out question. If Notre Dame and Miami played today, who do you think wins? So did we. What do you think wins?

[Zaslow]

Where's the game?

[Mike]

Neutral field.

[Tony]

Notre Dame's favorite by four and a half.

[Mike]

If it's in Miami, we know who's winning that game because Notre Dame hasn't won since 1988.

[Tony]

I think Notre Dame, with the way they've looked, each team's looked the last month. Notre Dame on a neutral field. Definitely.

[Chris Cody]

Because Notre Dame won against Syracuse. 77.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Because they.

[Dan Le Batard]

Overall, because they won nine.

[Tony]

I think even Mike would admit game by game, they've looked better the last month.

[Mike]

I would admit Notre Dame would be favored against Miami, and I would also admit Notre Dame was favored when they played Miami week one and it didn't matter. They got controlled three points.

[Chris Cody]

This really isn't that complicated after that, though. And I will continue to remind you guys that the whole point of this is Miami being interesting. And so we'll talk about it for a month because it's good to put them side by side and be like, what are you talking about?

[Mike]

So did we. No one wanted to answer the question.

[Chris Cody]

But the fact of the matter is on the way that Notre Dame is ranked. It's just basically that since they lost twice, they haven't been tested. Like, they've looked like they're getting better, their offense is stronger. Tested against Boston College, they're not playing close games. They're not.

[Mike]

They're not playing good teams.

[Chris Cody]

No, that. That's correct. But they're not being.

[Mike]

They don't have a Louisville on their schedule. They don't have an smu.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. If they were playing Louisville and SMU back to back, perhaps they would have lost too. They are not. But they are not playing close games and Miami lost two of the games. So did we. And that's how you've sounded for a month. And it's only going to get worse and people are going to dislike Miami and Miami's going to enjoy being disliked and we're going to argue for a month and the whole point of it is to entertain the content machine.

[Mike]

Right. And I hate where we are where it's just a Miami Notre Dame conversation again. I think Notre Dame is a good team. I think they deserve to be in the playoffs. So do we. So did. We're one of the best teams in the nation. I think what you're having is a lot of confirmation bias because Miami was underranked to start the season and people pointed to Miami shooting themselves in the foot and saying that's who Miami's team is and they haven't checked back in. If Notre Dame gets to be a different team after their losses, why isn't that afforded to Miami? We've played four games. It's a quarter of the season since Miami played that game against smu. You've watched Miami every week. Miami does look different from that game. Miami is doing different things since that game. Miami has navigated injuries since that game. Miami is one of the best teams in the nation. If Miami gets into that tournament, they have a legitimate shot to beat whoever lines up in front of them. And I think the discourse, and I'm partly to blame here, is just solely about Miami and Notre Dame when the fact is Miami deserves to be on that in that tournament on merit.

[Chris Cody]

Is anyone else tired of this as subject matter?

[Dan Le Batard]

I just love that it's. It's partly to blame when the person who centered the entire thing around the one game of which Miami dominated Notre Dame for a three point win. I'm sure we can find the word.

[Mike]

In there somewhere because what's going to happen is the rankings are going to come out today and Miami is once again going to be on the outside looking in. I'm going to be looking at incredible multiple scenarios inside the ACC trying to figure out how I can get into this tournament with my 23% FPI college football playoff predictor chances. And that is a plight that is on me and not on Notre Dame as they're sitting comfy at 73% when they lost the effing game maybe score.

[Dan Le Batard]

70 points and win nine games in a row. Don't lose two games out of three.

[Mike]

But what are you talking about? My Miami. Notre Dame lost two in a row. I heard this on Kirk Herbstream and Joey Galloway's.

[Zaslow]

What do you say?

[Mike]

Well, Joey Galloway, don't take anything that guy says seriously because he's just a shit stirrer.

[Zaslow]

Fastest guy in the league.

[Mike]

He's just a shit.

[Chris Cody]

But how did that happen? That happened on.

[Mike]

This is always. This is always who he is.

[Zaslow]

Is that an Ohio State thing?

[Mike]

He's just a shit sergeant.

[Dan Le Batard]

Joey.

[Chris Cody]

Joey.

[Mike]

Character trait. And he said, well, Miami lost two games in three weeks. I'm like, hold up. Wait a second. That's the argument. Notre Dame lost two in two weeks. What are we doing? And then, like, Kirk Herbstream made the point, like, those games were close. There has to be a punitive measure. Miami beat themselves in this game. So now the loss is. Being close hurts Miami. What are we doing? I mean, BYU lost a game by more points than Miami's lost their last three games combined. Miami is a really good team. They don't get beat up. No one has Miami's number and kicks their ass. That's not something that's happened to Miami this season. Miami's kicked a lot of ass. Miami's dished out dominations. I wish the score would reflect the point. To the extent that we kick that ass against Florida and FSU and Notre Dame, we don't have the style points now. We're going for south points. And it's a terrible way to watch a game. Miami is one of the best teams in the nation. They deserve to be in the College Football Playoff. Everyone's subscribing to group thinking. It's bullshit.

[Zaslow]

Okay, forget about BYU, all right? Number 11 and number 12 are going to be the ACC champion and the Big 12 and the Big 12 champion, or maybe some combination of the, you know, group of five champion. The only way for Miami to get in into the College Football Playoff is if they're in instead of Notre Dame. Right. Like both can't get in, which is.

[Mike]

A shame, because I think both. No.

[Zaslow]

So you're confirming that, like I'm asking? Essentially, yeah.

[Mike]

I think right now, the most likely scenario. I think the most likely scenario, if you look at fpi, what the committee is telling you, the most likely scenario here is that Miami is going to be left on the outside. Yeah. And Notre Dame is going to be in.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Kirk Herbstreet asks the question, at what point does head to head cease to matter. And I've heard Kirk Herbstreet's podcast for several weeks.

[Zaslow]

What do you say?

[Mike]

He's often said that If Miami finishes 10 and 2, then head to head should matter. What's happening here is everyone assumed Miami would pack it in after they lost to smu and Miami is annoying the hell out of this committee by winning all these games and forcing them to have this conversation. I'm curious to see what they do with Vanderbilt. Does Vanderbilt find its way ahead of Miami so they can avoid this tier thing that they can.

[Chris Cody]

I'm so done with you, Missouri.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

I will never believe in you again, Missouri. Never again.

[Mike]

So did we. You guys are leaving me on an island here and there's not enough people saying yo, Miami is really friggin good. Miami deserves to be in this college football field.

[Chris Cody]

You're making the argument well enough. And I believe most people watching the games would say there are three or four teams in the country that would be favored against Miami. Texas Tech, Texas A and M there. There are very few teams, if I put them right now on a field and said it's one game for everything that are going to be favored by a great deal over Miami.

[Mike]

I think they smoke Texas Tech. I think there's a great deal team that we smoke.

[Chris Cody]

Well, Georgia probably on reputation.

[Mike]

Yeah, we didn't. You didn't smoke Virginia Tech. That's right. Yeah you did. I mean did you watch the game?

[Tony]

A 10 point game late in the fourth.

[Mike]

It was a game didn't cover.

[Tony]

I'm just saying.

[Mike]

You're saying smoke them like we smoked. Our win probability never went below 92%. Yeah, we kicked their ass. We kicked it. We went into Blacksburg and we kicked their ass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now we like those ESPN where we.

[Chris Cody]

Are with this though. It's Snowball's chance in hell over here and we kicked that ass. And he's getting emotional because he wants to be one of the 12 teams.

[Mike]

Getting frustrated because no one's answering my question. No. No one. What was the question? To be honest, what was the question? Does Miami deserve to be in the college football playoffs?

[Dan Le Batard]

That wasn't the question. The question who would win between the Minotaurs?

[Mike]

No one answered that. So let me try this a different Miami deserve to be in the college football playoff. Yes. Dan, would you like to take a sad.

[Chris Cody]

Sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

They should have won all their games. Teams that win all their games should probably make it.

[Mike]

They didn't. There's four teams that have won all their games. Now there's a cluster of 10 and two teams and Miami is the best win out of them.

[Chris Cody]

This is, this is the discussion. Look, man, and the worst losses, though, okay? But no, no.

[Mike]

FSU beat Alabama. That doesn't stick to them.

[Tony]

It's true.

[Mike]

Miami's got a rank. SMU better be ranked today. Miami's got a rank loss.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, but we can't do the whole like, you know, same opponent and who beat that same opponent better for Miami and Alabama, right?

[Mike]

No, we've decided that we're not going to do that. And the Alabama FSU result doesn't matter.

[Chris Cody]

Can. Can I get you. Is there a way to quiet this storm somehow? Publicly, privately, every kind of way. By just conceding to you that everyone listening to this would probably tell you, yeah, I think Miami is one of the 12 best teams in the country. And then everything after that is just arguing about the. The 10 slots, the eight slots for the other two lost teams. As we know, Texas isn't that good. Oh, Oklahoma's not that good. Oh, Georgia Tech's not that good. That among these two lost teams. Yeah, Miami's probably one of the. Probably the best of the 6, 2 loss team.

[Mike]

If I remove the brands from this, no one's okay with the scenario in which two teams are in the College Football Playoff precipice. Notre Dame in Miami out, but two 10 and two teams, and the tiebreaker usually is head to head, and they're not taking that into account.

[Chris Cody]

Jeremy, how is that a losing argument?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not a losing argument. I just think we've seen it before. Like, it doesn't surprise me with the College Football Playoff when we see that they're including head to head as a factor. It's not the only factor, and maybe it should be when you get to the end of the season and these teams are sitting at the same record, but they've had different schedules, they played different teams. This isn't the NFL where you're playing all of the same teams similar to each other. No, there are. There are a ton of similar opponents. And if these were two simply just ACC teams, maybe we're having a different conversation, but we're not. Like, this has been the case with the College Football Playoff for years. And Mike, it's why I support you and why, Dan, you should follow your own precedent that you set from 2017, which is if a team that deserves.

[Mike]

To be in the College Football Playoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is excluded by ESPN and the conglomerate of people keeping them out purely for.

[Mike]

Biased perspectives, you should crown Miami national champions.

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[Chris Cody]

Don LeBatard. If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on.

[Mike]

Yeah, I would be aggressive.

[Tony]

Description.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying. No, that's just saying what?

[Mike]

That's me. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming. Lincoln. And you know what I do Amin stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

[Chris Cody]

Lincoln, who you outed the other day.

[Mike]

Don'T make this a rejoin.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Mike]

The committee has an incredible chance ahead of them tonight to come out, put Miami in. Leave Notre Dame out tonight, though, just.

[Tony]

To get the juices.

[Mike]

Just to get the juices flowing. Just to get people riled up before Thanksgiving.

[Tony]

My juices are flowing.

[Mike]

I alluded to, like, why does Notre Dame get to sit comfy on Thanksgiving at 73% while I'm living and dying at 23? You would have thought that that head to head matchup would have at least afforded me that, but they're in the catbird seat. And I don't get it. The committee puts their hat on that.

[Tony]

Hat rack, all the white hats that they got.

[Mike]

Literally three seconds before that video, they say, look, dude, we'll put Miami in. Let's just have some fun.

[Tony]

I can't even stand up right now.

[Mike]

They're mailing it in too, Dan. Chris is mailing it in. I'm not, obviously, but everybody else in America is mailing it in. These college football committees. I say, you know what? Put Miami. Let's have some.

[Chris Cody]

This is the problem I'm having around here, okay. Is that Jeremy, as all you guys are talking is saying to me, do you know that Norman Powell is second only to SGA in points per isolation?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right.

[Tony]

That's some good company.

[Mike]

Sga.

[Dan Le Batard]

Norman Powell.

[Chris Cody]

It's not what we were talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doesn't matter.

[Chris Cody]

And what. What Mike is doing is he's making a good but tedious arguments.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

And I don't think you're wrong. And I think the point is to have you arguing and you're just raising the stakes. On what. What that Pittsburgh game will be. Because you're dying for the feeling of the last two years where you're snorting the edge of the earth because you're very close to the championship. If you get to the playoffs, your team is ascending. Mario Cristobal is clearly climbing. If he's getting better every year and you can get blown out in your sport like James Franklin just did, like, if that's the stakes on, we're going to Pay these guys 90 million with $50 million buyouts. Mario Cristobal's trajectory the last couple of years has been up. His last year, his last team was flawed, but wonderful offensively, wonderful to watch. But you didn't believe in it the way you believe in this one. Being physical, being fast side to side on defense, having a lot of ways to beat you. You believe in a playoff. This is your best chance to win a championship. Like, this is your. The best chance you've had in how many years?

[Mike]

Yeah. No, this is the best team that we've had since turn of the century. You know, you remember when we asked about Ichiro's contract and David Sampson was just like, it can't be. It simply can't be. And if Miami handles business at Pittsburgh and they finish this season at, do.

[Zaslow]

They have to beat him better than Notre Dame did?

[Mike]

I don't understand that point. When the head coach said, and has since apologized for, like, Notre Dame doesn't matter. When. When asked about the Notre Dame game, he said the Miami game, like, it was just weird. This is a conference game. Pittsburgh is playing for a chance to get into the conference championship game. There's a totally different scenario, and I'm glad Lou Riddick and Chuckle have an opportunity to correct their wrongs.

[Chris Cody]

You know what?

[Mike]

No, no, no. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying about it can't be is Miami is 10 and 2, Notre Dame is 10 and 2. They both played Miami beat Notre Dame. Miami gets shut out of the College Football Playoff. Notre Dame's best win is against a middling USC team. I could even understand potentially slightly, if Notre Dame stacked these crazy wins. They went to Athens and beat Georgia. I'm like, all right, that's impressive. But they don't. They don't have great wins. So why are you shutting Miami out? What happened on the field has to matter. I think if we told anybody at the beginning of the season that this scenario was possible, they'd all be like, that's bullshit. That's not football. That's not right. One team won, one team lost. A team that won should be rewarded, not penalized.

[Tony]

We can all agree if there was an nit, they'd be a one seed.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

All right, look, this is the part that's pissing me off, okay? Because the way that he's getting here is a bit disrespectful on a couple of fronts. And I'm surprised you're not offended on Bob Washoesin's behalf when Mike sideswipes local legend Bob Washozen. Chuckle fuck. Chuckle fuck hits. Bob Washoesen is one of the top 10 broadcasters to come out of South Florida over Mike's tenure. For him to dismiss him with a chuckle fuck while also sideswiping. I don't know where Joey Galloway works.

[Zaslow]

Right now, but espn.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, so your colleague.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, your colleague, that's my co worker.

[Chris Cody]

Your Joey Galloway, with calling him whatever he is, whatever you were calling him a shit.

[Mike]

You're choosing sides? You're choosing ESPN over us?

[Tony]

Is that what you're doing?

[Zaslow]

No. Well, I'm choosing respect. If you know anything about me, you know I'm a man of respect.

[Mike]

What about this man right here?

[Zaslow]

I respect him too.

[Mike]

You don't respect him.

[Zaslow]

He didn't say anything bad about me.

[Mike]

I look Pablo shoes and I consider him a friend so much in the hockey chat, he is saved in my phone as chuckle.

[Chris Cody]

You are?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Look. What is a chuckle allege? This is a term.

[Tony]

Him going after Bob like their friends.

[Chris Cody]

A term of endearment. You're calling Bob Washoes in publicly? Hold on a second.

[Zaslow]

Is that what he saved us, Tony?

[Mike]

That's what he saved us, Bob.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a minute.

[Mike]

Chuckle.

[Chris Cody]

I didn't know you had this relationship with local legend. And I don't know if I can.

[Mike]

Former bugshanbi roommate.

[Chris Cody]

Look, Bob Washuzen, I would say, is one of the great prodigies to come through this town. You reducing him to chuckle because he's stuck with Miami, Virginia Tech while everyone else has the good games. Chuckle is disrespectful.

[Mike]

Yeah, I understand.

[Chris Cody]

Why are you doing that?

[Mike]

He disrespected me by perpetuating this narrative. I don't know who from the CFP committee got in their ear and said, hey, if Miami doesn't win this game by 40 points and you don't set that tone early, it's a disaster for them. And they just went along with this narrative and it was a horrible way to watch a game. And since then, Lou Riddick has been overcompensating, saying, head to Head matters to me. Miami should be in. I'm like, that would have been nice to hear. Guess what? Lou Riddick and Chuckle. You get an opportunity this weekend to fix.

[Tony]

Sounds like he's saying Bob and Lou Riddick did not hang their hat when they walked into that broadcast booth.

[Mike]

No, they were pawns. And like, I alerted Bob with shoes and, hey, Bob, you're being used here, so shape up.

[Chris Cody]

How many people are you going to call out? Lou Riddick has now been called out and shit stir. Joey Galloway, does he have a reputation.

[Mike]

As Jordan McPherson, AP voter? What do you say that that ranked Miami behind Notre Dame as a Miami Herald writer?

[Tony]

Wow.

[Mike]

The hell you doing, Paul?

[Dan Le Batard]

How dare you call. That's a kind man.

[Mike]

Look, there's a huge problem here with the AP and the coaches poll, because I know what they do. They look at last week's rankings and they look at the box scores and then like a little thing here, a little thing there.

[Zaslow]

That's what they do.

[Mike]

Every voter is being asked an existential question about football, and they should take that responsibility seriously. The fact that only four AP voters have Miami over Notre Dame when they have the same record played on a football field and Miami one is criminal.

[Chris Cody]

Okay?

[Mike]

There is a. There is a war on football. And you as an AP voter and a coach, there isn't a coach on God's green earth that would be okay with this. They're all subscribing to this group. Think there is a war on football. Stand your ground and vote with your heart. Vote for what's right. Vote for what happens on the field. Go on. Because games matter. Don't talk to me about who would be favored. They play the games for a reason.

[Tony]

After Jordan McPherson.

[Chris Cody]

Mike, you are continuing.

[Mike]

I guarantee you he's fixing that next week. I guarantee you he is. If Miami wins and doesn't fall on.

[Chris Cody]

Their face, this is who we're kind, man. This is who we're going to be.

[Zaslow]

Better.

[Tony]

This guy's awesome.

[Mike]

Jordan. Jordan, if you do this shit again, if Miami goes into Pittsburgh at noon with Lou Riddick and Chuckle on the broadcast and they take care of business, you need to do the right thing. Let me tell you, the right thing is overcompensating and putting Miami at number four.

[Chris Cody]

So I need you to stop cursing.

[Mike]

I think my tone was good.

[Chris Cody]

This is the problem with what's happening right here, okay? You are unhinged. You're out. See, I can't do this for a month.

[Mike]

No one's watched Miami since they lost.

[Chris Cody]

Mike.

[Tony]

I Checked in the fourth quarter to see the score.

[Dan Le Batard]

You told us not to, by the way.

[Chris Cody]

Mike, I'm just telling you that while you're shouting at everyone in America about this because you care about this program and you care about this championship chance. I've got Jeremy not. He's moved off of Norm Powell stats in isolation and he's asking me for the descriptor on the show. Is Chuckle one word or two?

[Zaslow]

I think it's two.

[Mike]

It's two. It's name. Chuckle. Last name.

[Tony]

Okay. It's disrespectful, though, for.

[Chris Cody]

It's. It's disrespectful. Like I have rarely heard in our market someone of Bob Washoisen's pedigree being taken down by a similar colleague peer of good repute in the industry. To dismiss the other one is Chuckle is as disrespectful a thing. Mike, don't play the innocent ears if you don't know who you're coming after.

[Mike]

Don't talk to me like I didn't take this complaint directly to Bob Washoesen.

[Tony]

He would say it to Chuckle.

[Mike]

And what I said I did. You were in the group chat. You were in the group chat. You were in the group chat.

[Tony]

I know it's hard to keep up.

[Mike]

Jetsuckle.

[Chris Cody]

Do we need to get with shoes in on? He's a local. He's a local legend, Mike. And you're being disrespectful.

[Mike]

You're not being disrespectful.

[Zaslow]

I was disrespectful how?

[Mike]

He was disrespectful to my program.

[Chris Cody]

Mike. No one would say Chuckle is respectful. No one would say that. No one. That makes it disrespectful.

[Mike]

He's a pawn in the CFP committee's game. He went with this ridiculous narrative.

[Chris Cody]

Him and Lou Riddick.

[Mike]

Yes, Both of them.

[Chris Cody]

Co conspirators.

[Mike]

Co conspirators.

[Chris Cody]

Joey Galloway, that shit, Sir.

[Mike]

He's a shit. Sir. He's a different. Put him off to the side. You. No one can take Joey Galloway seriously. Don't. Don't. Listen. I've been in this game for 20 years. Don't take a word that guy says seriously.

[Zaslow]

I've heard that.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the what?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I've heard that.

[Chris Cody]

That's your comment.

[Mike]

He doesn't have any conviction. He just moves on from argument to argument.

[Zaslow]

I'm just saying what I've heard.

[Mike]

He moves on from my opinion.

[Chris Cody]

I've heard that's your calling.

[Mike]

Did you watch the next game that he did.

[Zaslow]

I've heard that. I literally just heard it.

[Tony]

We are effort. We're efforting for Bob.

[Chris Cody]

You're saying that Lou. Rick. Well, we should talk to Lou Riddick too. If you're saying they're co conspirators. Chuckle Lou.

[Mike]

I don't know. Lou like that. I do know. Chuckle like that. So did we. You guys are trying to work me up. When I came in here, I'm like, I'm.

[Tony]

You're not worked up yet?

[Chris Cody]

I'm trying to work and we're trying to work. You want.

[Mike]

There is a criminal enterprise that is operating right under your noses. And you're all just like, all right, this is cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Been here for eight years.

[Mike]

Everything that we learned about football, about results mattering head to head. Mattering. I guess let's throw that out the window because they lit up Fran Brown.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Now I know why Frame Brown obsesses over quitting so much. Stinky Frame because his team quits on his ass.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. 70 to 7. That was bad. They played their third string quarterback at home against North Carolina. They look these. Some of these teams are breaking. Louisville is not the same team now when they get injured.

[Mike]

They lost two Browns.

[Chris Cody]

No. So. So at the end of the season, Miami's thing is formidable. We all know this. I just need you to settle down on this front. You're cursing too much.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

There are too many curses in this segment.

[Mike]

Sorry.

[Chris Cody]

And now I think Chris Cody is hearing curses in places that they don't exist. This was an argument before the show that we had about Creighton. You're going to have to describe this play to the audience here. But I think Chris Cody made an editing mistake because I think he bleeped something that was not meant to be bleeped here as an official tries to. Or an announcer goes crazy because of what a blocking call. Yes.

[Tony]

Creighton is on defense and this guy comes up for a crazy dunk and they call a foul where if you watch the play, he. There's hardly any contact. But this broadcaster is. His name is John Bishop. It was Creighton versus Baylor. John Bishop loses his mind when there's a call. And we can relive this bleep after. But I want to play the whole thing because it's great. Sound car into the paint.

[Chris Cody]

Miss the dunk. Foul. What are you talking about?

[Mike]

That was two seconds after the play ended. Car driving.

[Chris Cody]

He's outside the circle.

[Zaslow]

He's outside the circle and he's set. He was outside the circle and he was set. Brett Smith blew it. He was outside the restricted area.

[Chris Cody]

He was straight up and down.

[Zaslow]

He was set like the statue sitting out in front of New York. New York. And they called that.

[Mike]

That's an absolutely horse crap call in.

[Zaslow]

A game that's been played out like this. Unbelievable bailout call by an incompetent referee.

[Chris Cody]

And ball don't lie.

[Tony]

He missed the free throw.

[Zaslow]

Ball don't lie.

[Mike]

Do you guys remember Don west from qvc when he would open up a sporting pack and be like, look, Juan Gonzalez. That sounds just like the late Don West.

[Tony]

So when I heard this, this first call, I heard it unbleeped. I'm convinced I'm gonna play now.

[Zaslow]

Like you're telling me you. You think that that announcer right there. That's a tele. It's a television.

[Dan Le Batard]

Radio.

[Tony]

It's a radio. But I'm gonna replay it with the bleep.

[Zaslow]

You're telling me into the paint, miss the dunk. Foul.

[Chris Cody]

Why are you. There's no way I wish you an effing foul.

[Zaslow]

All right, let me play that professional play by playman into a microphone.

[Mike]

You think?

[Chris Cody]

Shout it out.

[Zaslow]

An effing foul.

[Tony]

Now, luckily we have a team around here because before the show I bleeped it. And then I found out from our team, they're like, hey, he doesn't say the F word. He says blocking.

[Dan Le Batard]

Foul.

[Tony]

Blocking. Blinking. Those are similar. Let's replay it now without the bleed.

[Chris Cody]

Decided to bleep.

[Tony]

I listened to it multiple times and I thought I heard the F word.

[Chris Cody]

So much better with the bleep than it is without it. A blocking foul is one form of outrage.

[Tony]

You listen for yourself.

[Chris Cody]

Tell me what you hear, but not only listen for yourself, but know that the volume. He comes at this. Expects the second syllable to be referee.

[Mike]

R. Into the paint, miss the dunk and a foul.

[Chris Cody]

What are you talking about?

[Zaslow]

It's very clearly blocking.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know how you missed that.

[Tony]

You guys have the. You guys have the ability to know before what the controversy was. If you're just listening to this the first time I'm telling you, I thought it was.

[Zaslow]

No, I think we have the ability to know that. It's a crazy thing for a play by play guy.

[Tony]

That's why I thought it was great.

[Mike]

Down a effing foul play one more time. But throw up the image of Dandy Don west in the background. Even though that's not Dandy Don was. Look at. Dandy Don was fucking foul.

[Chris Cody]

Are you. Do you realize, guys, how much greater the games Would be if you could just let it fly like that in your second syllable. It's so much better way.

[Tony]

My mistake. Hand up the. But that's me working hard. You say I'm, you know, Thanksgiving week. That is me going above and beyond.

[Chris Cody]

You have any other Thanksgiving things to sprinkle over the laziness of nobody's working this week?

[Tony]

I have rapper Plies talking about his ideal Thanksgiving menu.

[Mike]

It's my favorite time of the year. I'm gonna make my menu for Thanksgiving. We're gonna start off with the meats. I want me a deep fried. I'm talking about a peanut or tucking. I'm talking about. You got the season. That mother two, three days in advance. Shooting with that mother Cajun butter skirt all in the neck, all in the.

[Chris Cody]

Breast all in the mother all in.

[Mike]

The mother Wing scoot.

[Chris Cody]

Hit him all over with that Cajun.

[Mike]

Bottle and I want a mother honey baked ham I'm talking about glaze and.

[Chris Cody]

Shine that mother with all that mother sure. All that mother and I want me.

[Mike]

A mother Tuck in the oven slow.

[Chris Cody]

Bake tuck it on 250.

[Mike]

I'm talking about bake that mother all night Fall asleep cooking that mother Then you wake up in the morning that mother so tender Gobble, gobble. I gotta have that food. That's the type of care. You know when they say the secret ingredient is love? Yeah. That's it. That is going to be. That's gonna. You know the meal from Hook. The food fight. That's what it's gonna be.

[Zaslow]

I think he may have said blocking.

[Mike]

God damn it.

[Chris Cody]

This might be the most bleeped hour in the history of our show. Do you have anything else from the Thanksgiving bucket so I can just be done with this? And we can try over the course of the next two days to give people the show they deserve. Instead of the lazy Thanksgiving one you.

[Tony]

Want to do, I have Dan wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.

[Chris Cody]

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. This microphone smells like crap.

[Mike]

Sofrito Mike. I remember that one.

[Tony]

You can hear the smell of the microphone.

[Chris Cody]

Calcium Thanksgiving, everybody. This microphone smells like crap.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you, like, 10ft away?

[Mike]

Why was that so legit? Did you, like, cover your face?

[Chris Cody]

It was. It was the Frito microphone. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. When you say it was the Frito microphone, I legitimately don't know whether you mean Josh Friedman.

[Zaslow]

Definitely him. Definitely.

[Mike]

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[Zaslow]

Don LeBatard my algorithm on Instagram is Dance All Boobs.

[Mike]

Stugats.

[Zaslow]

It's a good algorithm.

[Mike]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Tony]

I texted Bob Washuzen. Can you join us right now? Mike is giving you crap for your cane's coverage on Saturday. His response? I can't, unfortunately. Just tell him he's wrong. Whatever he's saying, I don't think he.

[Chris Cody]

Respects you enough either. I believe Chuckle over there, South Florida broadcasting legend, is doing a little chortling in his suit with his guy, Lou Riddick, co conspirator to laugh at Miami when you're from here, Bob, you came here and you earned your college football adjacent credentials in this town.

[Mike]

So did we.

[Chris Cody]

Don't Chuckle us.

[Mike]

So did we. I'm gonna pin him up. Maybe have a little happy hour in Pittsburgh on Friday. So did we maybe take a different approach? Come here, Chuckle. Come here. Let me put my arm around you.

[Tony]

Who you're going, Mike?

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm going to the game.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, this trip so. And Zaslow Zaslan.

[Mike]

High probability to be sad.

[Tony]

Zazlin, borrow your sweater.

[Chris Cody]

Zaslow, where are you going? Are you going to a cold this weekend?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I'm going to Norman, Oklahoma.

[Chris Cody]

Are you going to get more clothes? Because that's going to be bitter cold. You're not? No. You're not going to do it again?

[Zaslow]

No, I told you already, I control my own blood. I'll be fine.

[Mike]

That doesn't even make sense.

[Zaslow]

Well, you wouldn't know.

[Mike]

You sound stupid.

[Zaslow]

You wouldn't understand.

[Chris Cody]

Sounds Oklahoma might. Norman might be colder this time of year. This bone chilling cold. You're going to do a show outside?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, of course.

[Mike]

I think it's got to be 25 degrees. Noon start for Miami, Pittsburgh.

[Chris Cody]

You understand the deeper winter gets, the colder it gets. Yes.

[Zaslow]

Yeah. No, but whatever, man. I'm tough.

[Mike]

You're right.

[Chris Cody]

All right, Tony.

[Mike]

Potential for rain, by the way, on Saturday. Dano in Norman, Oklahoma. You ready for that cold rain? You know. You know about cold rain.

[Dan Le Batard]

Second in points for isolation behind Shay.

[Mike]

Gildrich Alexander, 56 degrees. Zaz, you're gonna be all right.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Zaslow is. I did not think that with everyone eating at the football trough that Zaslo would have an opinion controversial and unique amongst people talking about sports in this market where Zaslow is now a person that anytime in a football game an out an outbreak of punching happens because these tacklers are getting better and better at hunting the football with punches.

[Zaslow]

Someone should send me video of last night because no one's done that yet.

[Chris Cody]

Any. Well, Zazzle, don't act burdened by it. This is a great honor the audience bestows upon you by having a take no one else has which you want to ban. You want to ban punching in football. So the 50 times a week and that someone punches out the football, you get the tweet. Eat it, Zaz. That's a good play. But the one time a guy gets hit in the junk and a fight breaks out after the game. Oh, by the way, Carolina Panthers in the mix when a fight breaks out during a game. Last night at the end of the game, Zaslo is being tweeted by the Internet. The entirety of the Internet. Cuz he is more associated with this take than anyone. Mark Schleris of the world are saying, punching's fine. And Zazzle's like, come on, let's draw the line of punching. Let's not punch anymore.

[Zaslow]

I mean, I have an incredible amount of you know about that dick punch tweets at me last night.

[Chris Cody]

But look how far the ball's away from the ball.

[Zaslow]

Oh, he's going for the ball.

[Mike]

The balls are close.

[Chris Cody]

But look, it's okay. This is why the fight happened after this game. And that's a cast. Like, that's a cast.

[Tony]

Maybe he was trying to get all the way to the ball with the punch and then, you know, that's right.

[Zaslow]

So it's okay. It's legal to go over the ball. Oh, I missed. I hit him in the dick.

[Chris Cody]

Whoops.

[Mike]

For the record, I. I don't like this.

[Tony]

We don't need the slow zoom, guys.

[Chris Cody]

No. Yes, we do.

[Mike]

No, this shouldn't be allowed. No, the video is even better. This is the still. The video is incredible.

[Chris Cody]

Still just looks inappropriate video. Thank you for this uppercut. Listen, stop right now. Everyone stop what you're doing. This has to be. There need to be criminal.

[Tony]

That's a horse's leg.

[Mike]

Hey, yo.

[Tony]

I meant the arm. Hey, yo, that looks like from this still shot. That. That could be a horse.

[Chris Cody]

Everyone, listen. You settle down. I know you've been dreaming for the telestrator day when you get to do. Oh, can I draw?

[Tony]

I wish I could circle.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. Okay, fine.

[Tony]

Let's get me that. No, I want to be able to draw on her.

[Chris Cody]

Nobody needs your knowledge of the horse penis right now.

[Tony]

Gq, get on that.

[Chris Cody]

If you don't back off right now with your Thanksgiving confidence so that I can get to what I'm going to say here. There should be criminal charges for this. Chris Paul's about to retire after great, great, great career. One of the things I most associate is he did this to people. He did this.

[Mike]

He's a honker.

[Chris Cody]

No, I honker.

[Mike]

He's a honker.

[Chris Cody]

That kids criminal.

[Mike]

He's a honker.

[Chris Cody]

Look, it's criminal. I want put this footage back up and do the close up please, again, because I want this to be an.

[Zaslow]

Investigation from Our show, Dan the ball is three players away.

[Chris Cody]

That is. He's wearing a cast. Look. These clubbed people. Three quarters of a way into a season that's not meant for the human body. This is a club he's wielding. And no wonder Juwan Jennings after the game wants to fight him. Because this is a criminal act. And I'm going to say the 49ers with some of that money they stole from IU should press criminal charges.

[Mike]

In the video, you can't hear because it's a still. He's like way away from Jennings.

[Chris Cody]

This is a crime.

[Mike]

I don't agree with it.

[Chris Cody]

During Monday Night Football, Carolina in the mix.

[Mike]

They broke their streak of winning the coin toss and winning the game.

[Chris Cody]

49, Zane 4. Look out.

[Mike]

Told you.

[Chris Cody]

It's ridiculous. No, because. Because. Come on.

[Mike]

I think. I think I'm finally off the hook. New sound isolate.

[Tony]

Can we get that sound, guys?

[Chris Cody]

Get the sound and it. What? What? The sound you will hear.

[Mike]

You got punched in the ball. That's what Joanne went in. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

This is. This is. You will be able to isolate the delight of this sound. Will now speak. The thing that made me that make that sound was the sheer delight and honestly marveling at how get that sound too. How tough. Get them both and make them both music. Because both of those sounds are. That's about as good during the sport. Like, this is a wide open NFL. Okay. Kansas City and the Patriots, there's been a lot of dominance.

[Zaslow]

Dolphins were in the hunt this weekend.

[Chris Cody]

But San Francisco 49ers over the last five years, really close, really tough, really superstar. And the thing that made me make that sound is that they ground yesterday the Carolina Panthers to dust. Even though the visual I have from last night's game is there's Fred Warner in one box. Oh, his body broke. There's Joey Bose in another. Oh, his body broke. How is this team always doing it? Even though they've got like half the functioning bones you need. And now the usage rate of the running back is back up. They fit so that they can withstand three Brock Purdy turnovers. Because that team's eight and four. And they're. They're built to be feared the same way that the Rams are, except their quarterback. You don't trust him the way you trust the Rams quarterback. But to see them survive the Mac Jones stuff and this level of injury like that organizational stability is crazy. They had injury at quarterback. Like, how is that. How is that teammate in four?

[Mike]

I mean, they've been helped with the schedule, but the Thing is, Brock Purdy, you don't, you don't usually see that. That was kind of an outlier game from Brock Purdy. He's usually been really good taking care.

[Zaslow]

Of the ball so bad.

[Mike]

Three interceptions. The first half was like I stepped.

[Tony]

Away for a second.

[Mike]

He threw two picks. I was like, what happened?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, but they were up against Carolina, even though they should have four turnovers in the first half. Like that team is physically something. That organization physically is something George Kittle's the one still doing on three quarters of his remaining functioning bones. Like what. What The San Francisco 49ers are organizationally. I'd really like to get someone on that we can talk to about what just happened with iuk because I thought guarantees were guarantees. Like I thought something says it's a guarantee. Like there are ways to get avoided criminally, but like your behavior can't be mis meanings.

[Zaslow]

No, but is it similar to Christian Wilkins?

[Mike]

Okay, but he just signed $120 million deal in the off season.

[Chris Cody]

If you, if at any point in my life, anyone listening to this, if I say to you that you have a contractual guarantee, that's a guarantee those don't get voided for stuff we don't know about. It's not missing meetings. But anyways, I speak ill informed. I just assume the worst. I assume the 49ers have a lot of trouble keeping all those stars getting money. IUK wanted his money, got his money. And now they're trying to avoid the guarantees. Cuz God knows how that affects Trent Williams next contract. The point I'm trying to make is I can't believe how tough that team is as an organization. Cuz the sound I made was that's Fred Warner and Joey Bosa in the booth. Like Carolina was doing things offensively that suggested perhaps they could catch the broken bucks. Perhaps like Saints aren't any good.

[Zaslow]

Well, and, and by the way, like Tony, you mentioned about the schedule at San Francisco. They probably play in the best division in football. They're 4 and 1 in division. Yeah, like they're winning.

[Chris Cody]

Look, man, I don't. I know we get carried away analyzing things. This is not humanly sane. Okay. Buffalo falls apart with injuries in a way that you don't trust them. Exactly. San Francisco goes through backup quarterbacks and their quarterback throws three interceptions and they're eight and four and everyone knows they're going to be well coached. And you might question Kyle Shanahan because he blows the lead, but he, he might have a lead to blow because he's he's blown more of them than anybody, at least in part, because for the last five years, no team's been in a better position anywhere in football without having done something than them.

[Zaslow]

And their next two games are so easy. They're at Cleveland and then they host Tennessee.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, they survived. Like, Mac Jones looked competent. Like you guys were giving Kevin o' Connell a credit that Kyle Shanahan is the only one to actually merit. Right? Kyle Shanahan's the only one that actually merits. Yeah, he'll do it with any quarterback. He'll do it with Garoppolo.

[Mike]

I think Sean McVay's in that conversation, too. But what other quarter?

[Zaslow]

I mean, Goff and Stafford, that's it, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, but I mean, he. Baker resurrected like, one game over there.

[Zaslow]

Baker, right.

[Mike]

Okay, man, chill.

[Chris Cody]

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. This microphone smells like crap.

[Mike]

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