The Big Suey: Bald Guys and Plane Crashes

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Bald Guys and Plane Crashes

Introduction to the Episode In the episode titled "The Big Suey: Bald Guys and Plane Crashes" of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, airing on May 5, 2025, hosts Dan LeBatard and Stugotz dive into a myriad of topics ranging from college football controversies to nostalgic discussions about rock and roll tragedies. The episode is marked by energetic banter, sharp humor, and insightful commentary, making it a compelling listen for fans of sports and pop culture alike.

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1. College Football Scandal and Coaching Penalties

The episode kicks off with a discussion on a significant development in the college football arena. Greg Cody introduces breaking news regarding Michigan's head coach, Sharon Moore, who is expected to be suspended for two games in the 2025 season as a result of the Connor Stallions investigation.

• Suspension Details

  • Greg Cody [03:40]: "Michigan head coach Sharon Moore is expected to be suspended for two games for the upcoming 2025 season as part of a self-imposed sanction based on the Connor Stallions investigation."

• Speculation on Suspension Games

  • Dan LeBatard [03:40]: "Games of his choosing, we always assume."
  • Greg Cody [03:42]: "It'S just two sequential games. But I guess there's no rules if you're self-imposing. Which two games? So if it's the first two games, it's New Mexico and Oklahoma..."

• Humorous Takes on Self-Imposed Penalties

  • Chris Cody [04:26]: "I would, I would drop the dookie. I would penalize myself for four halves, Greg."
  • Greg Cody [04:16]: "Oh, I like that. Four halves. It sounds like worse than two games, right?"

The hosts humorously debate the implications of self-imposed penalties, questioning which games might be selected and poking fun at the idea of extending the punishment.

2. The "Dookie Bomb" Incident

A recurring theme in the episode is the infamous "Dookie Bomb" incident involving Greg Cody's reaction to unexpected sounds during the show.

• Dookie Bomb Fallout

  • Stugotz [04:26]: "Stu guys is doing a private show for me here, right where he says give him a break. His body hurt, he's confused..."
  • Dan LeBatard [05:00]: "He dropped a dookie."

• Greg's Disoriented Reaction

  • Greg Cody [04:59]: "I was momentarily stunned."
  • Stugotz [05:21]: "Slayed it."

This segment highlights the playful dynamics between the hosts, emphasizing Greg's bewildered response to the "Dookie Bomb" and Stugotz's humorous critique of his handling.

3. Reflections on Sports Integrity and Power Dynamics

The conversation shifts to broader reflections on sports integrity, referencing Jim Harbaugh and the NCAA's role in enforcing rules.

• Jim Harbaugh's Promotions Despite Controversies

  • Dan LeBatard [05:49]: "Remember when we thought the NFL was going to prevent Jim Harbaugh from coaching in the NFL because he cheated?"

• Critique of NCAA's Influence

  • Stugotz [06:08]: "Greg. Yeah, all right. Stu guys is doing a private show for me here..."

The hosts critique the perceived inconsistencies in how sports figures are held accountable, using Jim Harbaugh's situation as a case study.

4. Nostalgia and Tragedy in Rock and Roll

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the tragic plane crashes that claimed the lives of iconic rock stars like Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper.

• Historical Context and "American Pie" Inspiration

  • Billy [28:42]: "Richie Valens and Buddy Holly and all these plane crashes we were talking about, they all actually died in the same plane crash which inspired the song 'American Pie.'"

• Buddy Holly's Legacy

  • Chris Cody [10:05]: "Buddy Holly and the Crickets. I mean, it's their Rock and Roll hall of Famers..."

• The 27 Club Phenomenon

  • Greg Cody [13:35]: "Buddy unfortunately left us at 22, which is incredibly young."
  • Chris Cody [13:41]: "Jim Morrison died at 27."

The hosts delve into the cultural impact of these events, connecting historical tragedies to modern music and discussing the enduring legacy of these artists.

5. Stugotz's Wedding Antics and Family Banter

Adding a personal touch, Stugotz recounts his experiences from a recent wedding, focusing on his enthusiastic dancing and interactions with his family.

• Stugotz's Dancing Excess

  • Stugotz [04:59]: "Stugotz was here since you don't do back in my days anymore."

• Family Dynamics and Humor

  • Stugotz [10:33]: "This is the happiest Greg Cody you will ever see."
  • Chris Cody [16:35]: "I couldn't watch the Kentucky Derby because I was at the wedding."

These segments highlight the camaraderie and lighthearted teasing among the hosts, offering listeners a glimpse into their off-air relationships.

6. Horse Racing Decline and its Implications

Stugotz passionately argues that horse racing is a dying sport, while Greg Cody provides a counterpoint from his perspective as a horse owner.

• Stugotz on Horse Racing's Decline

  • Stugotz [33:57]: "Stugotz sticks to his opinion that horse racing is dead."

• Greg Cody's Defense and Insights

  • Greg Cody [34:06]: "Phillies have a longer shelf life really, because when they're done their race careers..."
  • Chris Cody [35:42]: "Horses who have a lineage with Secretariat, probably a very small percentage of them are able to win major races."

• Discussion on Horse Genetics and Racing Viability

  • Stugotz [37:54]: "I'd actually be curious about horse racing's history and how we get to like Secretariat Sires 660 horses."

The debate underscores the tension between the industry's decline and the efforts by enthusiasts to sustain it, with discussions on genetics, breeding practices, and the future of horse racing.

7. LeBron James and the Evolution of Basketball

Towards the episode's conclusion, the conversation shifts to basketball, focusing on LeBron James's career trajectory and its impact on the sport.

• LeBron's Career Moves and Future Prospects

  • Dan LeBatard [23:20]: "I think he's going to Dallas. I do..."
  • Stugotz [24:16]: "I'm going to be LeBron. When you wake up, I'm just going to shout it into the t."

• Generational Shifts in Basketball

  • Stugotz [22:31]: "As basketball kind of moves on without him and it's Luka's team and talk about me and Bronny."

The hosts discuss LeBron's potential moves, his legacy, and how the next generation of players like Luka Dončić and Bronny James are shaping the future of basketball.

8. Listener Engagement and Interactive Segments

Throughout the episode, the hosts frequently reference listener interactions, polls, and private shows, fostering a sense of community and active participation.

• Polling and Audience Feedback

  • Stugotz [24:35]: "Put it on the poll at the show."

• Private Shows and Inside Jokes

  • Greg Cody [28:42]: "Billy and Jeremy just did a private show for four people."

These elements enhance listener engagement, making the podcast feel interactive and inclusive.

Concluding Thoughts

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz in this episode masterfully balances humor, insightful commentary, and personal anecdotes. From dissecting sports controversies to reminiscing about musical legends, the hosts provide a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of their chosen topics. Notable quotes and lively discussions ensure that both regular listeners and newcomers find the episode engaging and informative.

Notable Quotes:

• Greg Cody [03:40]: "Michigan head coach Sharon Moore is expected to be suspended for two games..."

• Chris Cody [04:26]: "I would, I would drop the dookie. I would penalize myself for four halves, Greg."

• Billy [28:42]: "Richie Valens and Buddy Holly... inspired the song 'American Pie.'"

• Stugotz [37:54]: "I'd actually be curious about horse racing's history and how we get to like Secretariat Sires 660 horses."

• Dan LeBatard [23:20]: "I think he's going to Dallas. I do..."

These quotes encapsulate the episode's blend of serious discussion and comedic relief, highlighting the hosts' unique chemistry and depth of knowledge.

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Conclusion This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz serves as a testament to the hosts' ability to navigate complex topics with humor and insight. Whether debating the future of horse racing or reflecting on the loss of rock and roll icons, Dan and Stugotz deliver a rich and engaging narrative that resonates with a diverse audience.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugatz]

Why are you listening to this show?

[Dan LeBatard]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Stugatz]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

There's some breaking news out of the the college football world gang, if you would like it.

[Stugatz]

Whoa. The dookie. Wait a minute.

[Dan LeBatard]

Seems like we don't have a choice.

[Stugatz]

Is this the. Is this a dookie bomb situation? Is this where. Where are you? College football. You?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, you know, I'm trying to expand my horizons this season, so we'll see. Maybe I'll, you know, dabble in some college, who knows? But this is from Pete Thammel, by the way. I had a thing not too long ago where I. The ESPN app. We'll get to the news in a second. The ESPN app, I don't know if you guys have noticed, play some, some dirty rotten tricks on you sometimes, right? Where you open the app and then you go to click like scores or news or whatever and they have like an ad that pops up over the different options that you would normally pick on. Right? So I don't know how this happened. It was one of those Times it's usually like, order our UFC pay per view. And it's like, I will throw my phone away before I'm gonna give you $60 for a UFC pay per view. Like, we're not doing that right now. But somehow I was trying to get some sort of breaking news or score update or whatever, and I subscribed to Pete Thammel. So if you guys ever have any Thamil questions. I have no idea how to unsubscribe to Pete Thammel, but the app tricked me into subscribing to Pete Thammel. So I'm a Thammel. I'm a Thamil man, as they say.

[Stugatz]

I. No one says that. I thought that ESPN made it so that you couldn't accuse them publicly as a former ESPN employee of. What was it? Dirty Rotten Tricks.

[Greg Cody]

Who? They made that. Who? They didn't tell me anything. They didn't even tell me. I don't work there anymore. I may still be an ESPN employee. Honestly, that whole thing went down a very weird way. Anywho, so breaking news out of the college football range. Michigan head coach Sharon Moore is expected to be suspended for two games for the upcoming, upcoming 2025 season as part of a self imposed sanction based on the Connor Stallions investigation. So finally some justice. Sharon Moore, who was not the head coach during that scandal, will be suspended for two games. Self imposed in those two games. It doesn't say which two games. I'm assuming just any two games. Well, that's the thing, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Games of his choosing, we always assume.

[Greg Cody]

It'S just two sequential games. But I guess there's no rules if you're self imposing. Which two games? So if it's the first two games, it's New Mexico and Oklahoma. But if I'm looking at their schedule and I'm Sharon Moore, I say, you know what, I'll take New Mexico and maybe, maybe I'll, maybe I'll coach a week and then I'll come back and be suspended again for Central Michigan. Or I'll hold off a little bit. We got Purdue in November. I'd kind of pick and choose my two games, right?

[Chris Cody]

I would, I would drop the dookie. I would penalize myself for four halves, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, I like that. Four halves. It sounds like worse than two games, right?

[Chris Cody]

Because it's four suspension halves. Yeah, yeah, know. Or eight. Eight quarters. Eight quarters option.

[Stugatz]

Greg. Yeah, all right. Stu guys is doing a private show for me here, right where he says give him a break. His body hurt, he's confused, he's Confused. Give him a break. His body hurts from dancing too much this weekend. I just. The thing that I want to address is that as that music was playing, what happened? Chris, can I keep you here for just a second? Because we need to produce your father here. What just happened as you played the dookie bomb sound? Play it again for me, if you don't mind.

[Dan LeBatard]

He dropped a dookie.

[Stugatz]

Greg Cody was looking all over the studio not understanding where all those sounds were coming from and didn't lay out for stugats to deliver one of his signature rhythmic chemistry lines. Back when we were a show everyone loved, he dropped a dookie and you just trampled it because you were looking all over the room scared of sounds.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I, I look, there's a frying pan back there. I, I glanced to the left. There's somebody beating a frying pan. Yeah, a bunch of noises I'd never heard before. You know, I was momentarily stunned.

[Stugatz]

It's a dookie bomb. That's what a dookie bomb does. It momentarily stuns you. And so now be stunned, everyone. Jim Harbaugh went without penalty to great glory and fame and Connor stallions. And also Michigan's a champion, by the way. That's forevermore and. Yeah, never mind. Well, all that cheaters win.

[Greg Cody]

Remember when we thought the NFL was going to prevent Jim Harbaugh from coaching in the NFL because he cheated?

[Dan LeBatard]

That was a funny time.

[Stugatz]

Look what's happened to sports the last few years in terms of everyone realizes, oh, everyone's just a greedy and no one can be punished because all these people realize they have their own power and who's Belichick dating?

[Greg Cody]

Well, no, Sharon Moore was punished even though he didn't actually commit any of the crimes.

[Stugatz]

That's right. Right. Well, of course that's how that one ends.

[Greg Cody]

What do you mean?

[Stugatz]

Does Sharon always go down at Levitar.

[Dan LeBatard]

Show and does Jim always get promoted?

[Stugatz]

Yeah, you know what? That's good code right there.

[Dan LeBatard]

Always happens to the bald guy.

[Stugatz]

That is good code. Just good code. Sharon and Jim. Yes. Does Jim in that spot always get promoted and does Sharon get penalized? Yes, that's correct. That's America. That's life. That sports. Hey, Trump doesn't know if he has to respect the Constitution and Saban's going up to him and saying, hey, can you fix nil? Sure. Executive order. Okay, sure. Put him in charge of everything.

[Greg Cody]

Is Jerome bald? I don't think he's bald.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know.

[Stugatz]

I don't think that Stu Gotts understands the code. We're talking about. He thinks it's bald related.

[Dan LeBatard]

Always happens to the hat guy.

[Stugatz]

Well, it's. But it's also on Cannonball 2Americas. Yeah, well, Stu Gatz I don't believe has been keeping college football tabs the way Billy the Dookie is. You know, that's Stu Gotz is.

[Dan LeBatard]

I start keeping tabs in October.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, I also, like, as I told you, it's not by choice. I subscribe to Thamil, so like, I get his every thought.

[Stugatz]

So did you accuse ESPN of Dirty rotten tricks?

[Greg Cody]

No, I would never.

[Stugatz]

Well, no, you wait a minute.

[Greg Cody]

I would never. Exactly. They may be my employer.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll at Lebitar Show. All right. I want to do an oral history on this. I want. I want to know what happened there at le show.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've confirmed he has hair.

[Stugatz]

Got an investigative report you did so. Yep. Sharon always goes down in that situation. He will get two games. He does have hair. Stugots accused him of also being bald because he's a criminal. Now for what Jim Harbaugh did in Stugatz's defense.

[DraftKings Announcer]

It was tough to find a photo without a hat on. A lot of hat wearing.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't say anything about being a criminal.

[Stugatz]

I didn't say no, but he's talking about penalized two games. Penalize?

[Greg Cody]

He wears a hat. Well, I will tell you that he rocks a hat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Stugatz]

Penalized two games makes him in the eyes of the NCAA a criminal. But that's just funny. It doesn't matter what you are in the eyes of the ncaa. They can no longer decide who is and isn't criminals. But here you got a two game scapegoat for a controversy. We talked about a lot more than either of these penalties will last. There's a couple of documentaries about it.

[Greg Cody]

I thought that the NCAA didn't really have power over anything anymore.

[Stugatz]

They don't.

[Greg Cody]

So why are we even doing.

[Stugatz]

That's why Nick Saban's going straight to the top. Hey, Saban, fix this. The players are getting too much of the money. All right. Yeah, sure. Why couldn't we trust those two old white men in charge? That'll work out for everybody. And then Sharon will get two. Two games. Let's do that for the rest of the time. And also maybe deport my parents.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Stugatz]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, you take two games.

[Stugatz]

Never do that. Not if the constitution. I don't know. Is the answer to whether the president has to respect the constitution. And they're already sending people out.

[Billy]

It's like the Worst I told you so of all time.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think these things are connected.

[Stugatz]

They're pretty connected.

[Dan LeBatard]

But you take two games to be the head coach of Michigan.

[Stugatz]

Sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

With a smile.

[Stugatz]

Yes, with a big smile on your face. Of course. Especially if you're Chiron.

[Greg Cody]

Are they paid?

[Stugatz]

Those jobs are hard to come by. And Jim's always get them. Of course old Jim's always going to get promoted.

[Greg Cody]

Does he get his salary for these two games that he wasn't responsible for?

[Stugatz]

Great question.

[Greg Cody]

Because, like, it's a great question. Two weeks off. I mean, come on.

[Chris Cody]

I bet it's a paid vacation probably, right?

[Stugatz]

Just. Sharon, you'll do this for us, right? Just go to the Bahamas. Maybe Buddy healed will be there.

[Greg Cody]

And Jazz, I mean, it's October, man.

[Stugatz]

Bahamas has to do better there. Wouldn't we agree that's not a great. That. Like, I would have thought there would be deandre Ayton.

[Greg Cody]

They have a ton of track stars. Just no one here knows.

[Stugatz]

Oh, well, that's correct.

[Chris Cody]

That's true.

[Stugatz]

No, that's. No, that is the truth. That's, of course, the truth. A bunch of Olympians. Yeah, definitely. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

And I'm sure famous cricketers. Cricket's big in the Bahamas, but, you know, we don't do cricket.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Excellent work. Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

What I did.

[Chris Cody]

Seriously, what did he do?

[Dan LeBatard]

I wasn't talking about crickets.

[Chris Cody]

Not crickets, Buddy in the crickets.

[Greg Cody]

What? He's right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

He's not right.

[Chris Cody]

Buddy Holly, come on.

[Stugatz]

All right, so tell me more, old man. Who danced too much this weekend? Buddy Holly and the Crickets. What? I. I'm here since you don't do back in my days anymore.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Stugatz]

I am here for impromptu back in my day. Okay. Here. The floor is yours. Buddy Cricket and the Hollies.

[Chris Cody]

Right, well, that's got nothing to do with back in my day, because.

[Stugatz]

No, no, just give us. Just give us 30 sec. It is back in my day.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, well, Buddy Holly and the.

[Stugatz]

You just made a reference. That was back in your day. And if you're not going to write these anymore, we should just do them.

[Chris Cody]

I'm just saying in the early days of rock and roll, late 50s into very early 60s, before we'd ever heard of Beatlemania, Buddy Cricket was a thing. His group was called the. The Crickets. Buddy Holly and the Crickets. I mean, it's. It's their Rock and Roll hall of Famers, I think. And if they're not, they should be. I don't have that hall of Fame Vote. So I can't be sure, but I'm pretty sure, you know, that'll be the day. Just saying that phrase. That was the name of one of their popular songs. That'll be the day. Although it could have come off as that'll be the day. They'll make me a Rock and Roll hall of Fame voter. But, you know, God bless Buddy Holly died in a plane crash like. Like most rock and roll stars of the day.

[Billy]

That's not bad.

[Chris Cody]

I believe he did.

[Stugatz]

More than one is not.

[Billy]

Yeah. In Greg's defense, more than one.

[Stugatz]

More than one is not most. Put it on the poll at Lebiton show is more than one most.

[Greg Cody]

You mentioned more than one. They're in more than one hall of Fame. They're in the Musicians hall of Fame in Nashville.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

And they're also in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Chris Cody]

There you go.

[Dan LeBatard]

1986. The class of 86.

[Chris Cody]

Excellent. Yeah.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I'm surprised you don't have a back in my day today. I believe you over the weekend told.

[Dan LeBatard]

Me you had one Monday.

[DraftKings Announcer]

And I did.

[Chris Cody]

It is Monday.

[DraftKings Announcer]

That's why.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, yeah.

[Billy]

Glenn Miller died in a plane crash. Patsy Klein, Richie Valens. I mean, these are the names of the day. Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. The Big Bopper. Am I the only one who's heard of the Big Bopper?

[Stugatz]

No, no, I've heard. No, I've heard. I'm just. I am just sinking into the golden marinette that is the 1950s with you.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

And you just referenced a couple of things. We. We are people. Please respect what is before you. An old man who danced too much. This weekend, after the release of setting his youngest son free so that he could forever be a toddler, Greg Cody no longer does. Back in my days on command. He writes books and republishes on the. But he's in the emeritus status of his career. He doesn't just.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's earned it.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, that's right. He doesn't just write columns every week. He makes them. He makes books. And if you'd like his work, he's not just giving it away here, even though he's paid for content to write back in my days live. But if you're going to make references that musty. Because when. When did Buddy. When did all of this happen? With the plane crash.

[Billy]

That was 1959. But in Greg's defense, there is a more modern reference he's looking for with musicians dying in a plane crash. The lead singer and guitarist of Leonard Skynyrd died in plane crash in 1977.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. And the weird thing is, a lot of those guys and women were 27. That's the magic age, the 27 club. If you're 27, you don't want to leave the house. If you're a rock and roll star because. Or getting an airplane.

[Greg Cody]

Buddy. Buddy. Unfortunately left us at 22, which is incredibly young. Way too hall of Famer.

[Chris Cody]

That's crazy.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Didn't you just say it happened at 27?

[Chris Cody]

I think Jim Morrison died at 27.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I know. Amy Winehouse died at 27.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, for sure. Janis Joplin loved Amy.

[Stugatz]

So what happened when you get that number wrong?

[Chris Cody]

Well, in one case, I didn't say everyone who's 27.

[Stugatz]

Most.

[Billy]

He's mixing the overdoses with the plane crashes. That's what he's not remembering.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, confirmed. Jim Morrison, 27.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Only the good die young.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Hello.

[Stugatz]

Thank you, Billy. Very helpful. That's Lionel Richie. Yes.

[Billy]

No, that's Billy Joel.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's Billy Joel.

[Chris Cody]

That's a big fine, Billy Joel. What are you talking about?

[Billy]

Huge, huge fine.

[Chris Cody]

Only the good day, young Billy Joel, man.

[Stugatz]

I said hello is Lionel Richie.

[Chris Cody]

Hello.

[Stugatz]

Hello.

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[Billy]

Yeah, a few songs.

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[Stugatz]

Don LeBatard is there. Back in my day.

[Chris Cody]

There is, actually.

[Stugatz]

What?

[Greg Cody]

Were you not gonna tell anyone?

[Mike]

Wait a minute, you guys. Guys, it's a Tuesday.

[Stugatz]

Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

Here's your guy, Greg Cody with Back in My day.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery.

[Mike]

Waiting for this one.

[Greg Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[Stugatz]

So we'll get the Back in my days live. Yes. You're pointing at a picture of yourself that's off screen of you dancing at the wedding. Go ahead and put it on screen, guys. And stop distracting my host. He's distracted by sounds and the sound of his own voice. And whenever he's dancing.

[Chris Cody]

They made me wear a boutonniere.

[Stugatz]

You look great, by the way.

[DraftKings Announcer]

He was complaining about the boutonniere all day.

[Chris Cody]

I don't wear a boutonniere.

[Stugatz]

Who's they made you like?

[Chris Cody]

If it's a people, the. The wedding planner, you know, that whole.

[Greg Cody]

Thing, the powers that be.

[Stugatz]

Who are the people? Wait a minute. What is a cabal? What? Who are the people who. Who made you do anything as the 70 year old? You didn't pay for this thing, did you?

[Chris Cody]

A good portion of it, huh? Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Did that hurt?

[Chris Cody]

No. Hell no.

[Greg Cody]

He.

[DraftKings Announcer]

There's a price that he knows about, and then there's the real price. That's how it works with him and my mom.

[Dan LeBatard]

You broke even at the bar, though.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, whatever.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Whatever he thinks they paid, it was probably 20%.

[Stugatz]

So a giant toddler set into the wild here after releasing his son. He has no idea what he paid? Just enough. His wife actually handles all the finances. If I showed him any of the numbers, he would be confused. Run into the other room and drink 12 Miller Lights.

[Greg Cody]

He didn't even care about the money. He cared about the boutonniere.

[Chris Cody]

Right. I don't like the look of a boutonniere. I think it's silly. It's a little accoutrement that's unnecessary.

[Stugatz]

So did you get rushed into fashion or bullied into fashion by your son's wedding planners?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. I mean, Tatiana, the lovely bride, picked out the color combination I didn't even know.

[Stugatz]

But you look. But you look great, though.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you.

[Stugatz]

So you look better than you've ever looked. Why would you not accept that? They. They made you look better than you've ever looked, whether you liked wearing what you were wearing or you didn't.

[Chris Cody]

Well, my. My only complaint is about the boutonniere. You know, it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think what you're saying is you would have looked good with or without that thing, right?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. You look good before you put it on. You look good without it on.

[DraftKings Announcer]

It's just something you're always kind of adjusting because it falls, it starts to tilt. So, like throughout the whole day. You're kind of always just adjusting it.

[Chris Cody]

Exactly. I don't want to.

[Stugatz]

How much did your father.

[DraftKings Announcer]

More than I've ever seen him. Like I'm telling you, most weddings you have to pull him out for a couple songs just to get him out there. Like there were multiple times where I just saw him from a distance. Beelining, dancing.

[Stugatz]

Do you realize, do you realize that this is an old man who appreciates life more than he ever has? This is the happiest Greg Cody you will ever see. Because his granddaughter was also there.

[Dan LeBatard]

It might be his last dance.

[Stugatz]

Whoa.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I mean, he also got into the brown liquor pretty early, my man. He had two Old Fashions before we even got to the wedding.

[Greg Cody]

So.

[Chris Cody]

That's not true.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Was it three?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, before the wedding began? Yes, yes, we were at the wedding. It just hadn't begun.

[Billy]

Right.

[DraftKings Announcer]

At about 3pm the wedding started at 5:45.

[Stugatz]

You were in the conference. Look, this is the thing. He's a toddler. He doesn't know how to drink and he's got a lot of experience. Doesn't know how to do it.

[Chris Cody]

I get that from your mother. She sees me with a. With an Old Fashioned in my head.

[Stugatz]

No, you don't know how to drink because three old fashions by 3 o'clock you're humming, baby.

[Dan LeBatard]

Damn right you're headed.

[Stugatz]

You're head, you're headed to falling in the bushes and you're headed to knocking my brother's paintings off the wall or.

[Chris Cody]

His original art exhibit. Right. But no, I, I kept. I was very good the whole night until the ride home. There are allegations. Fall asleep on the, on the right.

[Stugatz]

Chris. Does your father know how to drink? Yes or no?

[DraftKings Announcer]

No, he does. I mean, he can put him away.

[Stugatz]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

He knows how to drink, Dave. He doesn't know when to stop drinking.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Knows how to drink beer.

[Stugatz]

Hold on. I don't think you understand what I'm asking you. I believe that your father will put together a cocktail of combinations that would kill anything that wasn't a creature that had the devil's feet. I'm telling you that your father can sustain it and handle any combination of drinks drunk from three to midnight. What? His age? Yes. It's a testament to his lifelong stamina because, yes, he can put them back. What I'm saying to you, he doesn't know how to put them back. In a way that totally governs whether his wife will know at 11pm whether he's in the bushes or in bed.

[DraftKings Announcer]

That is true. He doesn't know the combinations of what to avoid, when to mix, when to start with this, when to wait. Hold off the brown liquor till later. No, he just, you know, he gets excited.

[Chris Cody]

Father.

[DraftKings Announcer]

And the bra. The father of the bride offers him a Long Island.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's he supposed to say?

[Stugatz]

No, no. But that. No. See, there's where you careen into a real holy hell. Turn to Art Bryant, 5pm here's the long island iced tea. No, no, Greg, you've got. No. But of course. He's the devil.

[Chris Cody]

All right. Wow.

[Stugatz]

And that's the happiest I've ever seen the devil.

[Chris Cody]

Those are wonderful feat. For the record, I never had a Long Island. I see. I don't know what you're talking about. You had one, but before the wedding, myself and my future in law. A beautiful man, right? We had a drink together. It was a ceremonial moment. We both had a. And they were at that bar. Man, they make a wonderful old Fashioned.

[Dan LeBatard]

He sounds wonderful. What's his name?

[Chris Cody]

Mark. Mark. Mark.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I thought he didn't know. Either way, he was like, he's a beautiful man.

[Chris Cody]

His name is Marcelo. But we call him Mark.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right?

[Stugatz]

Yeah. That ruins the joke.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course. Mark was drinking, man. It's on your dime.

[Greg Cody]

What are you going to do? Say no to Mark? Get out of here. You can't say no to Mark. You put it back, Jack.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, there you go. It was a lovely evening. A good time was had by all.

[Stugatz]

Okay. Excellent punctuation.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you.

[Stugatz]

LeBron. Oh, man. LeBron.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about him?

[Chris Cody]

Not at my wedding.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, or your son's.

[Chris Cody]

Right? Definitely not at my wedding.

[Stugatz]

There was no reason for that. It was just a glitch in my system. Over 20 years in sports journalism. I didn't even have just pivot to LeBron. I didn't even have anything to say there.

[Chris Cody]

Just out of habit. You said the word LeBron.

[Greg Cody]

I saw a report that he might want to come back here, but only if Riley leaves.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, wow.

[Billy]

Wait, what?

[DraftKings Announcer]

You jerk.

[Chris Cody]

You just made up that report.

[Greg Cody]

He did that.

[Billy]

And then DK aggregated was amazing, right?

[Greg Cody]

I threw out a hypothetical. I said, what if. What if LeBron wants to, you know, wrap up his career, End things the right way, Reaches out to Mickey. It's like Mickey, I don't like how things ended, but I'm not coming back. If Pat's here, I'll come back and I'll bring kd. But Pat's gotta go. What do you do?

[Stugatz]

Jeremy just whispered to me I think Billy's the greatest of all time.

[Billy]

I think you might be the greatest to ever do what it is that you do, Billy.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Billy]

I just wanna give you your flowers. That's truly remarkable work that you've done. It's amazing. Dropping dookie bombs.

[Stugatz]

And it caught fire, that story. Because that's how much LeBron we have talked over 20 years. But the thing that I was actually going to say that is funny. As basketball kind of moves on without him and it's Luka's team and talk about me and Bronny. Oh, McL's brain. Like if the timing on the details of that. And it may be true, but it also did feel as. Let me grab one last thing here as the young people take the sport away from me because I'm the oldest player in the league. And I think most people would say as Steph gets to advance because Buddy made the threes and LeBron didn't have enough of those guys who made the threes, even though they got Luca to get him.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Stugatz]

LeBron's looking at the end of his career and he's now being left behind. Right like that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Yes. If Billy's wrong and he doesn't end up in Miami and Riley retires, I think he's going to Dallas. I do. I think I know what LeBron is up to. I think he sent Anthony Davis to Dallas. LeBron's going to go to Dallas. It's LeBron, Anthony, Davis and Kyrie. And then Luca doesn't re up with the Lakers and Luka also goes back to Dallas. How about that? That will be plenty of help for LeBron James. I like that. I think that's what he's up to. Dan.

[Stugatz]

I don't want to do that today. I think it's.

[Dan LeBatard]

You brought up LeBron.

[Stugatz]

I did bring it up, but LeBron. LeBron.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't ask you to.

[Stugatz]

I'm going to do it 10 years from now. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it in retirement. Walking on a BEACH in the 80s, in my 80s. I'm going to be LeBron. When you wake up, I'm just going to shout it into the t. I mean, 20 years, we fed it this teat. LeBron.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you're 70.

[Stugatz]

This is the whole. No, I'm talking about years.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

I do also, like you said, if Billy's wrong, is that I didn't just make that hypothetical up.

[Stugatz]

No, he, he. He's still not sure. That's because you're that good at it. That stug is still confused whether it's real or not, and wanted to entertain it as an interest. Here's what's actually going to happen with LeBron because he's going to be doing that in his 80s.

[Greg Cody]

Let me see what Thamil's thinking again.

[Stugatz]

Put on the poll at the show. Is the ESPN app up to Dirty Rotten Tricks, I think was the accusation that was made. Please find me the video of Greg Cody falling into the bushes.

[Chris Cody]

Please don't.

[Stugatz]

Because I'd like to play that here and talk a little more about how Greg went through life this weekend, because we haven't talked enough about how and where his body hurts.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Speaking of video, the video department's told me we cannot replay the Lorenzo Charles dunk that we talked about earlier, but he did indeed dunk it. Okay, Okay. I mean, Derek Wittenberg trying to play that off like a pass instead of a shot is laugh out loud funny. But Charles grabbed the ball, both hands on the rim, and he flushed it.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Stugatz]

Slayed it.

[Chris Cody]

He did slay it. What do you need? You want to know where I hurt?

[Stugatz]

What do you need?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, you were looking at me, and to do your job, you hadn't asked me a question, and so I'm wondering what do you need? If you're. If you're talking about where I hurt, I hurt in my heart. No, I'm just kidding.

[Stugatz]

You hurt your wallet because Mark, that stiff. Mark.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no, no, no. I want to make clear the. I don't know whether Mark listens to your podcast or not. I want to make clear that. That both sides of the family, you know, paid.

[Stugatz]

I'm accusing Mark of being a stiff.

[Chris Cody]

No, that's not true. No, don't. Don't do that to me. He's a good man. I played golf with him. We. It was Dutch treat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nice.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, we both played.

[Stugatz]

Greg Cody is good at Dutch treat. Why is it a Dutch treat, by the way? Why is it called the Dutch treat?

[Chris Cody]

I'm not sure. I don't know.

[Stugatz]

Everyone pays their own way.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Stugatz]

That's a. That's a Greg Cody staple, is it not somebody else? How often does Greg Cody grab a bill?

[Chris Cody]

In fairness, I was invited to play in that round of golf.

[Stugatz]

What percentage of the time does Greg Cody grab a bill?

[Chris Cody]

Pretty frequently.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. For your kids.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. I mean, pretty often. Yeah. How about.

[Stugatz]

No, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just paid a wedding bill.

[Stugatz]

That doesn't. I don't.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, my wife. When you say, how often do I grab A bill? You're including my wife?

[Stugatz]

Well, forgive me for this intrusion on your family life. I don't think paying the bill for your family is paying the bill. Just because they're toddlers. Your toddlers. Your wife picking up the bill is something she's done My, my. The entire time I've known you.

[Chris Cody]

Sure. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

And so you picking up the bill for your family is not what I consider picking up the bill. I've. I'm saying, outside of that, how often are you in the company of others that aren you're picking up the bill?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, we did it at breakfast Sunday morning. We had a group of about 12 or 15 people.

[DraftKings Announcer]

It was the post wedding with all the people in town. Breakfast.

[Stugatz]

Okay. I'm trying to get outside the wedding here. Can I talk to you, Chris? Can we talk to your mom? Can we figure something out here? I think I can corner your father here because I'm guessing your father likes to appear more magnanimous than he actually is.

[Chris Cody]

I'm a generous man. Contrary to the way you pigeonhole, I.

[Stugatz]

Don'T think you are.

[Chris Cody]

Actually. I'm a very, very generous man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's call Mark.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. No, that's not.

[Stugatz]

How would Yeti say he's paid?

[DraftKings Announcer]

I think.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I think Yeti's very happy.

[Stugatz]

Fair.

[Chris Cody]

Wow. Hello, Dolly.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Me, on the other hand.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Generous with a capital G. Yep.

[Stugatz]

Your signature line being I showed you and breaking out into hello Dolly. It was gotcha. Get me like that all the time. I want to be got like that every time. Where he just broke into Ragtime Showtime show tune.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I don't know why I said he did chorus line.

[Stugatz]

He was so happy. And his cha cha came with one of those demon digits that he was pointing at my chest and he was dancing to hello Dolly. Please, Jeremy, can you get me some more information on hello Dolly? I want more back in my days that are live and just. We can do a whole library of back in my days if we just get. Get you more agitated.

[Billy]

I do have another update, though, because Richie Valens and Buddy Holly and all these plane crashes we were talking about, they all actually died in the same plane crash which inspired the song American Pie.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. There was a movie about Don McLean.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, a couple movies.

[Billy]

Day music died, not journalism.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Billy]

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[Greg Cody]

Don Lebatard I.

[Chris Cody]

Heard that as a woman faking pain, I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't.

[Stugatz]

You know it was not fake. It was in no way fake.

[Greg Cody]

You can spot a woman faking it Stugats.

[Chris Cody]

Yes I can. Jess Expertise have been married 40 years.

[Greg Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Chris Cody]

And by the way, I couldn't watch the Kentucky Derby because I was at the wedding. But journalism, the betting favorite.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sad day for journalism.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

It finished second. And the weird thing is journalism was beaten out by a horse named Internet.

[DraftKings Announcer]

How weird is that?

[Chris Cody]

No, that. That's.

[Stugatz]

That was not the name of the horse.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, but it should have been.

[Stugatz]

Well, but what's funnier about that, surely people are making the. They're doing the symbolism, right, of sovereign being the winner beating out journalism. Like, is actually happening in the real life, not with horses, but the political animals. Like, wait. Surely that joke is being made everywhere.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, I hope so.

[Stugatz]

The idea that today. Stugat. I've been wrong today on the clippers, you know, you have one wrong. Yes. Here or no, I have one wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was wrong on something.

[Stugatz]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

What was I wrong on?

[Stugatz]

Horse racing is dead.

[Dan LeBatard]

Horse racing is dead.

[Stugatz]

Okay. Biggest numbers in 25 years.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't care. I mean, wait for the Belmont Stakes to come around. If this horse who won the Derby doesn't win the Preakness, Preakness will get big numbers. Okay.

[Stugatz]

Do you know the name of the horse? We were just talking about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Internet. And so I have no idea if that. If. If that horse doesn't win. Internet, does it win the Preakness? No one, and I mean no one will watch the Belmont Stakes. Nobody.

[Stugatz]

The name of the horse is Sovereignty and Internet.

[Chris Cody]

Not a bad name for a horse, quite frankly. And I say that as a horse owner, but to buy a second horse.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

You're about to buy a second horse?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I'm about to get into a second horse.

[Greg Cody]

A Philly.

[Chris Cody]

Another Philly. We like Phillies.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, we like Phillies because on the back end, you get the stud fee and everything. And, yeah, you know, they. They give you a little. Little puppy, you know, a little colt. It's all good.

[Stugatz]

Sovereignty beating journalism in 2025 in the Kentucky Derby as Stugot sticks to his guns on. Horse racing's dead. But, man, more people watch it in 25 years. You know why? Because gambling's really popular.

[Billy]

The musical hello, Dolly actually crushed at the Tony Awards in 1964, despite tough competition from Barbra Streisand's Funny Girl. Now, what's funny about that is ultimately, Streisand would go on to star in the hello dolly movie in 1969.

[Chris Cody]

It's a beautiful coincidence that you just pointed out. And Louis Armstrong made a big hit record of that. Satchmo.

[Billy]

That's right.

[Chris Cody]

Another beautiful.

[Stugatz]

Okay, let's sharpen it up back in my day. We'll do them live every day. Like we'll do them live whenever you want to do them. Just come in with whatever you got. Greg Cody bores you to death with historical nuggets from the 50s. That's how the Le Batard show has decided to keep up in the Internet age.

[Greg Cody]

Greg, as a member of Team Valor and a horse owner, do you get. You get better fees for Phillies than for studs. Like, stud fees.

[Chris Cody]

Phillies have a longer shelf life really, because when they're done their race careers, chances are they're going to, you know, have babies. Which depending on how well the filly has done in her race career, the babies may be a new generation of income.

[Stugatz]

Well, don't I have this right? That the only thing. Well, maybe I, maybe I have this wrong. I think it's sort of majestic that sovereignty beats Journalism in 2025 in a horse racing that everybody's watching as the world burns and the apocalypse goes. Yes, sovereignty is beating the apocalypse is beating journalism. And I know these things aren't conn Right, Stugat. They're not. None of these things are connected. Greg Cody is our horse racing expert is lovely. Were not all of the horses in that race a descendant of Secretariat? All of them. Do I have that wrong? Is that incorrect information? I'm just, I'm simply, I. I had someone text it to me this weekend and it's not something that I crazy that I even bothered to look up and I should have because it was just coming to mind. Now, as Greg Cody was our horse racing expert, Stugat sticks to his opinion that horse racing is dead. That's been the move for 10 years. And he doesn't have another opinion about horse racing as Greg's a horse owner but not a good enough expert in this realm to actually talk about a horse race that a lot of people were watching this weekend. But we weren't because. Because Stugat says horse racing is dead.

[Chris Cody]

I would find it very hard to believe that every horse In a big 20 horse field was related to Secretary.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, believe it because Dan's information is correct.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I mean that's the thing about that horse.

[Dan LeBatard]

Got around, huh?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. But again, you know that that's the thing about the lives of horses living on. But bloodline is a. Is a big thing in racing. So if you can say, well, I'm a fifth, I'm a five generation descendant of Secretariat, that really increases the price of your horse.

[DraftKings Announcer]

These horses work hard.

[Stugatz]

Wilt Chamberlain made his way around. And how many, how Many horses did.

[Billy]

Secretary Secretary sired more than 660 registered foals in his lifetime. With several such sires or dams showing up in each Kentucky Derby horses pedigree.

[Chris Cody]

There you go.

[Stugatz]

It's funny as the sport of if you look at what it is you're actually doing there in the history of America as this race runs through this particular time in America where the President is on television saying, I don't know if I have to follow the Constitution. That's a thing that's actually happening now as he also talks about a third term and this is the first year, this is just starting as he shakes the world's economy. The fact that we're all looking at the history of bloodlines running in a race and just at the finish line, we're all watching because we need one minute of relief from the holy hell that is every day in this country these days. It's an amazing picture as sports art.

[Greg Cody]

How many, like, how far removed from Secretariat do you have to be? Like, how many duds has Secretariat put out there?

[Stugatz]

You know, fails more than he succeeds based on only Stugatz's measurement of you gotta win.

[DraftKings Announcer]

That's why it's less impressive to me when I hear he's done it 600 times. Like if I had 600.

[Stugatz]

I'm sure those are all profitable. Well, I'm guessing those are profitable businesses that, that are being sired there in each. Well, you tell me, business owner. I, I don't know. I'd actually be curious about horse racing's history and how we get to like Secretariat Sires 660 horses. How many of them are winners? And is the secret really that just get those genetics in there? Because I don't know what the failure or success rate is, but I do know that they are breeding that horse that way because they think there is commerce in that penis.

[Chris Cody]

Right. And if, if, if the bloodline includes Secretariat, the horse will be more valuable at sale or at auction. But you put it in human terms and it's like the horses running today, Secretariat was their great, great, great, great, great, great, great great grandfather. Right. So what are the odds that Secretariat's genes would last generation after generation after generation? That's why horses who have a lineage with Secretariat, probably a very small percentage of them are able to win major races, let alone Triple Crown races.

[Dan LeBatard]

The last was born in 1990. I will tell you this, Greg. Lady's Secret was the 86 horse of the year that is a descendant of Secretariat and risen star in 1988 won the Preakness of the Belmont.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, but that's a lot closer to Secretariat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

Now you're talking about, you know, decades later.

[Greg Cody]

This is probably a question for Ron McGill tomorrow, but. So horse incest seems to be, like, a very prevalent thing, you would think, right? Like, if everyone's related to Secretariat. A lot of these horses are products of incest, are they not?

[Stugatz]

Are we assuming or are we not assuming that these animals, while treated better than most, that this is probably an industry that is not the best to these animals, even as it's trying to take care of these animals? Because this. These animals are a giant business for rich people. So no one is led to believe that.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'd love to be a horse, even.

[Greg Cody]

At the rate they're dying, Everybody dies.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, but dying on tracks, like, because of what the upkeep on some of these things requires, that.

[Chris Cody]

That was prevalent at an unnamed California track a couple of years ago. I think they've cleaned that up. And, you know, there. There are policing in the horse racing industry.

[Billy]

If you get injured, they kill you.

[Stugatz]

That's correct.

[Dan LeBatard]

Humanely, though?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, if you. If you fall and break.

[Billy]

Yeah, I want to be a horse.

[Stugatz]

Y. Yes. I want to be a horse.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do it with care.

[Stugatz]

They're gentle. There was money there. And Stu guys just went over there and was like, if you could put.

[Billy]

Me out of my misery gently. Actually, you know what, Stu? I'm with you.

[Stugatz]

ST doesn't like the part of just, hey, Stewart, you're going to have to run really hard and fast the whole time. Just, can I have a bunch of sacks and just win trophies and run occasionally and win the race, not finish seventh and break my ankle and get killed.

[Greg Cody]

I feel like there's something we can do as a society for horses, right? Like, you see little doggies, and sometimes they lose a leg or whatever. They have, like, little wheels. They roll around. Like, there's wheels big enough for horses, are there not? Why can't we have horses with wheels?

[Stugatz]

That's a good question. Whether or not I. You know what I think, though? No. I think that a horse, if it breaks its legs, like, soon thereafter, like, I don't think. I don't believe that. The bloodstream, they're fragile animals that way. I don't. I think you break the horse, you're keeping it from a lifetime of misery. Not just because it can't give it a wheel.

[Greg Cody]

Third wheel of three legs.

[DraftKings Announcer]

We can figure it out.

[Greg Cody]

We figured out everything.

[DraftKings Announcer]

If they fall off that wheel, I don't Think they're smart enough to be like, all right, let me relax here until they fix. They're just going to start panicking and then all of a sudden, you know.

[Stugatz]

Another wheel and not keep. Yes, put it on the poll at Levittard show. Should a horse that breaks its leg get a fourth.

[Greg Cody]

Get a wheel as opposed to being murdered?

[Stugatz]

Yes, get a wheel as opposed to being murdered. I am told that video has now found the video. That video has found the video of Greg Cody saying that, yes, I can handle my liquor fine. I believe Chris Cody made a lot of money at Amos Miami by showing people secretly this video of Greg Cody. This is being revealed for the first time.

[DraftKings Announcer]

So he's over across the driveway and he starts sprinting and he's jogging and he goes down and there he is into the bush.

[Greg Cody]

It was wet.

[Chris Cody]

It was wet. I slipped. Excuse me. And by the way, my son, taking that video is the equivalent of watching somebody drowning. And instead of helping them not drown, you're filming them as they go down.

[Stugatz]

And then made money off it the way that they do off the horse races.

[Chris Cody]

Correct.

[Stugatz]

And instead of breaking your leg, we continue to make money.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I lifted you up, I grabbed your arm.

[Chris Cody]

After videotaping everything, if there was a.

[Greg Cody]

Situation where a horse was given a wheel, this guy. And then the race happened with a three legged horse with a wheel, would you bet on the horse with the wheel?

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course.

[Chris Cody]

It'd be like harness racing.

[Greg Cody]

This guy, Ed Garland.

[Stugatz]

Do you know Cody and I did a harness race?

[DraftKings Announcer]

Oh, no.

[Chris Cody]

We have.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[DraftKings Announcer]

I think we have that photo of my dad.

[Chris Cody]

And I won, by the way. Really? Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

And got accused of going too fast.

[Stugatz]

Hold on. Can I just show you guys the disconnect between the two rooms? Because Jeremy wanted to jump into Billy's arms because right at the end of where the clock should have been, he shouted, Ed Garland. A joke funny to four people, but funny to those four people. Uproarious. I assure you that Stu Gotz, Chris Roy and Greg Cody have no idea what that joke or reference is because they just jumped into song. And Greg remembered heroically that time he wrote a chariot. And so he wasn't listening to anybody. He just wanted to talk about himself. And that time he was on a. So you have no idea what Billy and Jeremy just did a private show for four people. You don't know what that joke was?

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Chris Cody]

What was Ed Garland? What's his name? Ed Garland.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Sounds like a baseball umpire's name.

[Greg Cody]

He might have dabbled. Honestly yeah, yeah.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Does Ed Garland sound like the name of a home plate umpire?

[Chris Cody]

Absolutely.