Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: The Big Suey: Being Attacked In a Public Forum (feat. Dave Dameshek)
Date: December 5, 2025
Special Guest: Dave Dameshek

Overview

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this Big Suey episode is classic Le Batard Show—witty, irreverent, deeply sports-nerdy, and full of rapid-fire tangents. With guest Dave Dameshek, the crew jumps between NFL hot takes, LeBron's legacy, sports history, and even the economics of tooth fairy payments. The banter is sharp, playful, and peppered with references ranging from 1980s sitcoms to Pittsburgh stadium nuances, offering both hard sports discussion and humorous asides.

Key Discussion Points

1. Mark Andrews’ Surprising Age & Ravens’ Offensive History

Timestamps: 02:13–03:45

• Stugotz is shocked that Ravens TE Mark Andrews is only 30. He says, “For some reason, he's... the career leader in Baltimore in yards, receptions, in touchdowns. It just seemed to me he was older than 30. But I think it was the Nacho Libre mustache.” (02:46)
• The crew teases him for inventing Andrews’s mustache due to Baltimore’s Flacco-era imagery (03:17).
• Dameshek arrives and highlights the Ravens’ long-standing struggle to develop star wide receivers, calling Andrews' franchise records "damning with faint praise".

2. LeBron’s Longevity and “Beginning of the End” Debates

Timestamps: 03:52–08:39

• Dameshek gives context for LeBron’s iron-man streak: “Cooper Flagg had been alive for 15 days... The Big Bang Theory and Mad Men would debut later that year... Nick Saban was the Dolphins' coach.” (04:00–04:35)
• Roy marvels at public eagerness to tear down LeBron: “The ongoing desire to take shots at LeBron... I don't understand.” (07:21)
• The group muses on how rare it is to successfully replace a legend in sports or pop culture and relates this to LeBron’s career arc post-Jordan/Kobe.

3. Lamar Jackson, Playoff Narratives, and Adjusting Styles

Timestamps: 09:14–12:14

• Dameshek predicts a media pile-on if Lamar’s Ravens falter: “Who is going to get attacked in public forums...is one Lamar Jackson... one of the most dynamic, one of the great quarterbacks in the history of people in Lamar Jackson, but having to deal with, with the grim reality that he misses long stretches almost every year for him.” (10:00)
• He likens Lamar’s crossroads to MJ and Kobe transitioning styles: “Both right in the middle of their careers decide like, oh, I'm not as dynamic anymore... and so they did. What's Lamar's adjustment going forward now?” (11:22)
• The classic "greatest ability is availability" cliche is applied to Lamar.

4. Atmosphere Disappointment: Pitt Football’s Stadium Energy

Timestamps: 12:14–15:00

• Mike Ryan laments a dead atmosphere at a Pittsburgh Panthers game, calling it “the worst environment for football” he’s encountered (12:40).
• Dameshek and others discuss campus stadiums vs. NFL venues, touching on why Pitt and even UCLA lose student and city spirit by playing off-campus.

5. The Ever-Evolving College Football Playoff & Bama’s "Privilege"

Timestamps: 18:42–21:12

• Dameshek criticizes the subjective, “gilded class”-favoring nature of new CFP formats: “It still has come back to this weird bespoke, sort of gilded class encouraged sort of conversation around like, yeah, but you know, they're better. That's, that's what everything comes out. ‘Yeah, but you know, Bama’.” (19:22)
• Dan and the crew agree that Alabama is getting a pass not given to other teams with similar records/performance.

6. Quarterbacks’ “Super Bowl Window” & NFL Playoff Outlooks

Timestamps: 21:18–23:59

• Dameshek: “The sweet spot for winning the Super Bowl is guys between their second and sixth seasons... in the last 25 Super Bowls... 14 times by a quarterback in his second to sixth season.” (22:00)
• He argues current up-and-comer teams should be considered real contenders based on this trend, not just brands like Brady’s Pats or Mahomes’ Chiefs.

7. Thursday Night Football, Officiating, and The Mystery of “Safety”

Timestamps: 23:59–26:44

• Debate over a controversial non-safety in last night’s NFL game. Dan: “That's like the most obvious example ever of it being a safety.” (24:28)
• Roy riffs, “What's safe about a 300 pound man landing on you in the end zone? It’s the opposite of safe.” (25:38)
• The crew questions why the same word is used for a defensive position and a scoring play.

8. “Gold Jacket or Lombardi?”: The Ultimate Player Honor

Timestamps: 27:08–28:03

• Dameshek reports, “Super bowl champion players would all choose the gold jacket. They would all choose gold jacket.” (27:32)
• Only Cam Newton and Antonio Brown have told him honestly they’d rather have the Hall of Fame legacy than a Super Bowl ring.

9. NFL Rules, Tush Push, and Football’s Ten Minutes of Action

Timestamps: 34:05–37:43

• Dan proposes abolishing the quarterback sneak: “If you’re only going to give me 11 minutes of action, I don’t want any of it to be tush push... It’s not a real play. It’s nonsense. It’s boring.” (35:16)
• Dameshek suggests, tongue-in-cheek, restoring goalposts to the goal line to bring back wild, old-school football obstacles (36:14).
• Discussion of Canadian football and why goalposts were moved for safety (37:01).

10. Tooth Fairy Economics and Parenting Anxieties

Timestamps: 41:22–46:56

• An extended, relatable segment on “how much should the Tooth Fairy pay?”
• Dan: “My going rate was $20.” (42:51)
• Roy: “$5 first tooth and a dollar the rest of the way.” (43:36)
• Multiple comic spins: staged stealth missions to retrieve teeth, the perils of inflation, and “being Indiana Jones” for a night.
• Notable exchange:
  • Stugotz: "The tooth fairy evidently has a budget problem." (43:20)
  • Dan: "She will learn." (43:20)
• Brief stories of not getting caught and the magic/embarrassment of belated child tooth losses.

11. Running Gags & Inside Jokes

• Garlic breath:
  • Dameshek is repeatedly teased about alleged garlic roll consumption:
    • “‘Your breath smelled like a garlic factory.’” (39:10)
• Rooting for Mussolini:
  • Dameshek presents the morality of rooting for Steelers vs. Ravens in grandiose terms:
    • “Go ahead and root for Baltimore and root for Mussolini while you're at it because you're anti-freedom. Goodbye Steelers.” (29:13)
• Marching Man to Nowhere Fat Face and Habitual Liar:
  • Custom, deliberately silly nicknames—typical of Le Batard Show's inside humor. (02:03)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On LeBron’s longevity:
  • Dameshek: “Cooper Flagg had been alive for 15 days [the last time LeBron scored under 10 points].” (04:00)
• On Lamar Jackson:
  • Dameshek: “The greatest ability is availability, but it seems to be proving true.” (11:51)
• On Pitt football:
  • Mike Ryan: “I have never been in a worse environment for football than Pittsburgh. It was so sad. It was pathetic.” (12:53)
• On the Tooth Fairy:
  • Stugotz: “The tooth fairy evidently has a budget problem.” (43:20)
• On Steelers-Ravens rivalry:
  • Dameshek: “The Steelers are named after the mid-century heroes who forged the steel that built the tanks and ships used to defeat the Nazi scourge... [The] Ravens are named after a poem written by a Boston native who married his 13-year-old cousin, moved to Baltimore, got drunk and died. Go ahead and root for Baltimore and root for Mussolini while you’re at it.” (29:13)

Segment Highlights with Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|---------------| | Mark Andrews and Mustache Debate | 02:13–03:45 | | LeBron’s Historic Streak | 03:52–08:39 | | Lamar Jackson Playoff Pressure | 09:14–12:14 | | Pitt Panthers Stadium Atmosphere | 12:14–15:00 | | College Football Playoff Rant | 18:42–21:12 | | Super Bowl Window for QBs | 21:18–23:59 | | Thursday Night Officiating & Safety| 23:59–26:44 | | Gold Jacket vs. Lombardi Debate | 27:08–28:03 | | Tush Push Critique & Goalposts | 34:05–37:43 | | Tooth Fairy Parenting Stories | 41:22–46:56 |

Tone & Style

The show’s signature mix of punchy sports debate, absurdist banter, and nostalgic trivia shines throughout, with Dameshek a natural fit for both substantive football discussion and offbeat humor. The camaraderie leads to frequent playful insults, extended riffs (like the garlic breath saga), and comedic exaggeration of trivial sports and parenting dilemmas.

For New Listeners

If you enjoy lively, freewheeling sports commentary where no topic is too silly or heartfelt, this episode delivers. From dissecting the exact moment NFL goalposts moved, to whether the Ravens make you a fascist, to the $20 tooth fairy conundrum, you get both deep-dive sports history and daily-life relatability—all wrapped in the uniquely chaotic Le Batard Show package.