The Big Suey: Billy Pulls Off Some Wednesday S***

Summary

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Episode: The Big Suey: Billy Pulls Off Some Wednesday S***

Release Date: August 21, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

Overview

In this lively edition of “The Big Suey,” the Dan Le Batard crew gathers in Miami to riff on the absurdities and beauty of sports culture, pop culture, and their own inside jokes. This episode zigs and zags through topics like the evolution of baseball coverage, the outsized expectations on Arch Manning, changing athlete names, local sports celebrity, legendary SportsCenter anchors, and even a nostalgic detour into Miami radio. The episode maintains its familiar blend of high-level sports talk and self-aware nonsense, with Billy’s unpredictable antics as a running theme.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Segregating Baseball on the Show

[01:46–04:48]

• The crew jokes about their tendency to dump baseball content onto “pitch clock Jeremy,” with Dan exasperated at how baseball gets shunted off to a corner.
  • Dan: “I don't like how again and again we segregate baseball on this show ... we just tell Jeremy, go out there and do pitch clock off there by yourself and yourself.” [01:46]
• The crew debates Kyle Schwarber's accomplishments and how to project his success.
  • Discussion on Schwarber’s “keg softball player” build and whether it’s an insult.
  • Comedic confusion on home run stats and playoff numbers.
• Quirky trivia: First “Bob” in the majors in 15 years (Bob Seymour for the Rays), and the first “Seymour” since 1913.

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2. College Football: The Arch Manning Hype

[05:57–12:03, 14:28–15:26, 27:39–33:17]

• Dan introduces the unprecedented pressure on Arch Manning—Heisman favorite with “no resume.”
  • Dan: “We've been waiting two years to see this quarterback ... I can't remember another scenario off the top of my head where the expectation was so grand.” [05:57]
• Zaslow, Billy, Chris: Debate if Arch's hype is fair, the AP poll snubbing Texas' showdown with Ohio State by not making it 1 vs 2, and Penn State’s legitimacy as a #2 team.
• “Is Penn State ever really the number two team?” is floated for a poll.
• Lee Corso nostalgia: The team contemplates making tribute videos, with Billy remarking, “Lee Corso is as iconic to your Saturday mornings as Bugs Bunny was. He is an adult Saturday morning cartoon.” [11:28]
• Conversation dips back into expectations for Arch, pressure of the Manning legacy, and prospect analysis.

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3. Cam Ward, Name Changes, and Branding

[14:28–16:29, 33:17–37:17]

• The show dissects QB Cameron Ward’s switch from “Cam” to “Cameron.” Billy explains it was a family decision tied to branding and awards.
  • Billy: “Can we make it Cameron? It was important to the family and Cam Rin at that time that he was recognized as Cameron Ward.” [15:03]
• Debate: Is it fair to expect media and fans to instantly adopt new player monikers?
• Zaslow delivers a legal “ruling” on whether Dan must immediately switch to “Cameron Ward”:
  • Zaslow: “There will be no penalty for continuing to call him Cam Ward. Forgivable, with prejudice. Forgiven.” [34:50]
• Comparison to name changes in pro sports—Ochocinco, Giancarlo Stanton, Henry/Bill Walker. Zaslow insists star players “have to earn it.”

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4. Quarterback Fights and Grit

[16:29–18:05, 27:33–28:11]

• Cam Ward fighting his own DT Jeffrey Simmons at practice: Is this a red flag or a sign of leadership?
  • Billy: “They asked him the very next day at practice, any lessons ... he said, yeah, Jeff is strong as shit.” [17:35]
• Chris and Billy argue they “want a quarterback that's going to get out there and fight ... like our men and women in uniform running towards the battle.” [27:50]

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5. Miami Sports Nostalgia and Local Sports Celebrity

[22:29–23:33, 39:16–43:12]

• The group playfully roasts Billy’s Marlins fandom, suggesting he’s more invested in the Marlins than his own kids.
• Tangent on local radio legends, media figures, and the fading relevance of terrestrial radio in a streaming world:
  • Dan: “What does that mean, that Y100 still has evenings in the middle of the night?” [41:09]
  • Local personality name-drops and the “highlight owner” bits.

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6. SportsCenter’s Evolution and Rich Eisen’s Return

[38:56–41:05]

• Reflection on Rich Eisen returning to SportsCenter after 22 years, and how the show now needs individual anchors more than anchors need “The Brand.”
  • Dan: “It's really cool to see SportsCenter morph into something that needs individuals more than the individuals need SportsCenter.” [40:00]
• The “viewer-to-anchor” bond exemplified by Eisen and Scott Van Pelt is contrasted with the plug-and-play days of old ESPN.

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7. Inside References, Impromptu Polls & Running Gags

Scattered Throughout

• Multiple references to “put it on the poll” for outlandish or deadpan questions.
• Highlighting quirks, e.g., Zaslow’s hair piece mishap:
  • Dan: “His hair's just gone ... What a tragedy. Zaslow was confusing Nick Wright and others into thinking that his look was hair. But no, there's his box of hair right there.” [23:46]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard [01:13]: “Welcome to the Big Suey ... I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.”
• Chris [04:45]: “We had our first Bob in major league baseball in 15 years. Bob Seymour hit his first home run last night for your Rays, Dan.”
• Zaslow [06:55]: “Has there ever been a season that begins with the Heisman Trophy favorite ... Arch Manning ... has no resume in college football?”
• Billy [11:28]: “Lee Corso is as iconic to your Saturday mornings as Bugs Bunny was. He is an adult Saturday morning cartoon. ... He means that much. Wow. Sunshine scooter.”
• Billy [15:03]: “It was important to the family and Cam Rin at that time that he was recognized as Cameron Ward. ... For branding sake, you're wearing number one and your name is Cam, and you're going solely as Cam. We're still too close. I mean, Cam Newton's still very active in the media space.”
• Billy [17:35]: “They asked him ... any lessons that you learn from your scuffle with Jeffrey Simmons. And he said, yeah, Jeff is strong as shit.”
• Dan Le Batard [40:00]: “It's really cool to see SportsCenter morph into something that needs individuals more than the individuals need SportsCenter.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro/Ad skips: [00:00–01:13]
• Segregated Baseball & Kyle Schwarber Talk: [01:46–04:48]
• 'First Bob' MLB Trivia & Bob Seymour Segment: [04:48–05:48]
• Arch Manning Hype & College Football Expectations: [05:57–12:03]
• Lee Corso Tribute/Nostalgia: [11:10–12:03]
• Cam(er)on Ward Name Change & Media Reactions: [14:28–16:29]
• QB Fights & Grit: [16:29–18:05], [27:33–28:11]
• Judge Zaslow Rules on Name Changes: [33:17–37:17]
• Rich Eisen & SportsCenter Reflection: [38:56–41:05]
• Local Radio and Miami Nostalgia: [41:05–43:12]

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Episode Tone

The tone is irreverent and fast-paced, peppered with friendly mockery, insider references, Miami-centric nostalgia, and running bits. The hosts balance insightful sports analysis with comedic tangents and a willingness to poke fun at themselves and each other.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• This episode typifies the show’s genre-blurring style, where sports analysis, local color, and sternly silly digressions collide.
• The conversation about Arch Manning is a must-listen for anyone tracking quarterback narratives this season; likewise, the breakdown of how modern media treats athlete “branding.”
• The show’s self-referential humor, polls, and affection for Miami sports culture offer a taste of the camaraderie that defines the Big Suey.

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

Stephen A. Smith is gonna be around here in a little bit and pitch clock Jeremy. I don't like how again and again we segregate baseball on this show where we. Jeremy. We just tell Jeremy, go out there and do pitch clock off there by yourself and yourself.

[Billy]

That's a little bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, no, no.

[Chris]

I've seen Chris is on every episode. Open that ass in trivia.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what I' I have seen you on there. I'm just saying as a show accessory, as a show segment that we're proud to have grown for people who want baseball. You can just go get concentrated chunks of entertaining baseball stuff over there and only over there. Because when I'm trying to talk about Schwarber, everybody will just make it about Ohtani and judge and that's all we're doing is evil.

[Chris]

I feel like we did a good three minutes on Schwaber.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think it's trending in an evil direction.

[Billy]

He's getting paid. He's a Philly too, by the way. We. We nailed that. We were workshopping back here.

[Chris]

I thought it was a Cub.

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like Dombrowski is one of the greatest executives of all time. Dombrowski. I mean, Schwaber there. How do you project Schwaber into somebody who's going to stay healthy and hit 45 home runs a season, three straight years, the only person in baseball to do so?

[Chris]

You make him a DH forever. That's how. It's incredible.

[Dan Le Batard]

But he's a keg softball player. The home run he hit last night to get to number 45, he was off balance. And it didn't even look like he caught the right part of the bat. The guy can just hit fly balls that go out of parks money because he's just. He's. He's that physically strong.

[Chris]

I feel like he would be insulted by keg softball player.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh.

[Chris]

But what he did in the swing off in the All Star game was essentially like a keg softball player there. Just simply because he saw three pitches and hit all of them out of the ballpark. He's ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think that's an insult to call him a keg softball player?

[Chris]

Yes. And I think Adam done. He would take keg softball player Kyle Schwaber another level.

[Billy]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Adam Dunn. Hold on a second. We talking body types. Adam Dunn is bigger than Kyle Schwaber. Adam Dunn is taller, longer than Donkey. That. Thank you, Billy. Kyle Schwaber is a little square of a human being. He's. He's much smaller than Ohtani and Judge. He looks. I'm not going to say he looks overweight because he doesn't. But he looks square. And he goes and takes pornographic hacks when he gets up there. And he's got three straight seasons of 45 home runs. And that concludes our baseball talk over here.

[Mike]

He also just, correction, does not.

[Chris]

But that's baseball, famously. He had segregated sport, by the way.

[Dan Le Batard]

He only had 38 last year.

[Mike]

He had 38 last year, 47 the year before, and 46 the year before.

[Dan Le Batard]

But did it okay?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I counting playoff homers there then?

[Mike]

Maybe.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That'd be weird because no one does that.

[Mike]

Yeah. What a waste, huh? We count the World Series like it counts, but none of the other stats that happen in the postseason matter anywhere.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's crazy here. I've got it wrong. Stole it straight off of the ESPN graphic.

[Mike]

He also has 43 this year. So hasn't gotten 45 this year yet either. But we're close.

[Chris]

They do keep track of home run stat. I mean playoff home runs, like it's not like they just disappear. Like you can look up who has the most playoff.

[Mike]

Yeah but like they don't count towards your total at the end.

[Chris]

You know we had our first Bob in major league baseball in 15 years. It's a huge deal. Bob Seymour hit his first home run last night for your raise, Dan. The first Bob in 15 years that.

[Mike]

It'S a huge deal.

[Chris]

I saw it. We had a whole conversation on this show like a couple months ago about how they're not making Bob's anymore.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Especially the last Bob.

[Chris]

Well there is Bobby Witt, there's Bobby's. No Bob specifically Bob Howery was the last Bob retired in 2010. But not only that, there are three Seymours in the race. Giants game last night. Bob, Ian and Carson, all three made their debuts this year. Prior to that hadn't been been a Seymour last name since 1913. Look at Mike's face. So not only a 15 year drought for Bob's 113 year drought for Seymour's. I mean that's baseball TV truck as.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike likes to call you. I want you to zone in right now on Mike's face.

[Chris]

That's Ryan Bass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because the reporting that was a huge deal there is that we've seen our first Bob in big league baseball.

[Mike]

Why don't you just give a shout out to the Rays sideline reporter because.

[Chris]

He'S the one who pointed it out.

[Mike]

Jeremy.

[Chris]

It was earned.

[Billy]

Intern.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Mike, your disgust is on a number of different levels here. But I'm assuming that your greatest disgust comes from at least in part as we talk about whatever it is that we talk about around here. We are headed toward a college football season about to start with something I can say pretty confidently isn't something we've seen before, which is we've been waiting two years to see this quarterback. He's going to come out with Texas. Does he have the quarterback chromosome of Eli Manning? Peyton Manning, who's the next future face of the sport. They're going to try and keep making it the quarterbacks we're going to finally get to see Arch Manning. I can't remember another scenario off the top of my head where the expectation was so grand. Where you're waiting for, oh, they're going to be the number one team in the country just because of the expectations for that name on the back of the jersey.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Dan has There ever been a season that begins with the Heisman Trophy favorite. He has the shortest odds, plus 600. Arch Manning, the Heisman Trophy 4 favorite, has no resume in college football. I, I, I don't know of an instance.

[Billy]

Like, did play some last year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, give me a break. Come on. You see the competition. What are you talking about?

[Billy]

I'll give you a break.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Give me a break.

[Billy]

I'll give you that break. You said he didn't play. I, I told you he played football expert. I am.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

There are three college football experts right now. It's Paul Feinbaum, Heather Dinich and me. All right? And I'm telling you, breaks, no resume.

[Billy]

Breaks over. Breaks over. All right? He played a little last year and got people excited, but now he's opening the season.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, my God. Ut, Texas, you all. Monroe. What a resume.

[Billy]

He's playing. Playing the defending national champion. It's a top three matchup because, you know, the AP messed this one up.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, that's kind of.

[Billy]

How do you do that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's B.S. right, Dan? I mean, the AP, it was right in front of you.

[Billy]

You gotta make it one versus two versus two.

[Mike]

And everybody knows. Everybody knows. Penn State's not the second best team in the country ever.

[Billy]

I was. I rewatched that Orange bowl game. Man, did Penn State throw up all over their jersey. And also upon third viewing of this game because it was a great game. Still no completions to wide receivers from Drew Aller.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Le Batard show. Is Penn State ever really the number two team?

[Billy]

Remember the narrative going into that playoff game because they won a home game against SMU and then got Boise in the playoff. And everyone's like, penn State, James Franklin, he's doing it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The easiest pass.

[Billy]

The Notre Dame Fighting Irish were so broken, they were out of that game. Penn State, embarrassing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think you just did what you just did, which is James Franklin. It's not broken anymore. Did you do a flex on James Franklin?

[Billy]

Pushaway. All right, you didn't. You didn't change any narrative. You took advantage of a terrified quarterback from smu. One of the worst quarterback performances I've ever seen in my life. That game was there for SMU to win. And then don't get me started on Boise. Nice little team, solid little team. But that doesn't change a narrative. James Franklin, Pushaw.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pshaw. And then two chicken wings to the side. Are you flexing? You're flexing a pshaw. Look, it's weird, your insults yesterday. It Was. What was it? I made a musical guy. And today it's pshaw.

[Billy]

James Franklin. Pshaw. Put it on the poll.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what.

[Chris]

James, he's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who uses pshaw anymore? Nobody uses Pshaw at LeBatard show. Have you ever heard anyone use. Dismiss someone else with the phrase peshaw? To Zaslow's point, though, when he says arch Manning has not played against anybody. I know we make all of these people into, I don't know, avatars and cartoons. I don't know what the pressure actually is of growing up in the Manning name, but for two years, they've been incubating this kid who comes with the expectation of. Your uncles. Carried this league for 15 years fighting Brady, and they were the top of the sport. And we expect you to be good because Eli was good in Mississippi, and we all saw it before Mississippi was any good. Like, we know what these people are supposed to look like. And the pressure of that. I ask you, like, I know we think these things are, you know, easier than they are. The pressure of this quarterback against Ohio State, the defending champion, a team that's super loaded with no resume, on the road with. With no resume. What are the. What are the reasonable expectations there?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Go in there and win. That's literally the expectation. Go in there. Your first game as the man for Texas. Been waiting for years. Good one, Chris. Go in there at Ohio State. They'll dot that stupid I pregame and beat him.

[Billy]

Of course, I was going to put on the Buckeye hat.

[Mike]

You got to.

[Billy]

Oh, man. That's another thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Has some guts.

[Chris]

You got to zag there. You got a zag. If you're Lee.

[Billy]

Have you guys submitted a video for. For Lee Corso? I'm thinking about it, because they're soliciting homemade videos where you say what Lee Corso meant to you over the years. And I think I speak for everybody here. Lee Corso meant a lot to us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy]

A fixture on our Saturday mornings. I mean, Lee Corso is as iconic to your Saturday mornings as Bugs Bunny was. He is an adult Saturday morning cartoon. I'm thinking about putting together a little video for him. He means that much. Wow. Sunshine scooter.

[Chris]

Yeah, we should put that on the poll. Bigger part of your Saturday mornings growing up. Lee Corso, Bugs Bunny.

[Billy]

I'm gonna cry. You are all gonna cry. And I'm saying this as a guy that has literal Lee Corso fan fiction tattooed on his calf. I am not ready to say goodbye.

[Mike]

There's, like, a special tomorrow, I think, for Lee Corso. Dude, they're airing primetime.

[Billy]

The eyes are welling already.

[Mike]

This is bad.

[Billy]

I'm like legit like getting emotional right now.

[Mike]

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[Mike]

Did you guys notice that Arch Ark Manning was not on the Manning Award preseason watch list where it has his name on it?

[Chris]

They want to jinx it.

[Billy]

That's a conflict of interest.

[Mike]

Is has to be right. How can he be the Heisman favorite to be the best player in college football but not on the watch list for the best quarterback in college football?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

They don't think he's worth watching.

[Billy]

You know who won that one last year?

[Mike]

I do. Tell them.

[Billy]

I'm pretty sure it was Cameron Ward. Who wants it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who?

[Billy]

I. I found this. Like, we asked, like, why is he called Cameron? I got the background on it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I heard it, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is this a. Happen to know?

[Billy]

I happen to know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Do you happen to know. Do you know? Oh, my God.

[Chris]

He knows. He happens to know. Come, everyone, come and listen.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Happens to know.

[Chris]

He happens to know.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well informed.

[Billy]

So if he's going by Cameron Ward now, and that's the insistence and we. We kind of theorized when you say Cam in the NFL at that position.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Billy]

You're. You're still thinking Cam Newton.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's what I heard.

[Billy]

So I think that that's part of the branding. But why wasn't he called Cameron last year if this is so important? He went the entire year. Never heard that this was his preference. Everybody called him Cam. And a request came from the family. Hey, for the awards. Can we make it Cameron? It was important to the family and Cam Rin at that time that he was recognized as Cameron Ward. So Miami didn't just, like, issue any personal request come award season. That's when Mr. Ward decided I'm gonna be known as Cameron from here on out.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Interesting.

[Mike]

Gather everyone.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get the children. He happens to know.

[Billy]

I just bought a jersey.

[Dan Le Batard]

This so wise.

[Mike]

But we still don't know why. They just wanted that. They just wanted it.

[Billy]

It was important to the family. That is his legal name was on the awards. And then going forward, you can theorize as we have, that for branding sake, you're wearing number one and your name is Cam, and you're going solely as Cam. We're still too close. I mean, Cam Newton's still very active in the media space.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't have a lot of historical context for what it is that I'm about to say. So I hope the group here walk me through when people were talking while I was away about football things, and all of a sudden I'm hearing about an apocalyptic dolphin practice, which is not something I've generally heard of, but when I've heard of things that happen that echo throughout a droning preseason of Vrabel's in the middle of one huddle and he's getting bloodied, and we're talking about that. But Cam Ward fighting a defensive tackle on his own team. I know people, you know, I know emotions run high. I know things get heated. The only other time that I Had heard about a quarterback fighting somebody on his own team because you know not to fight the quarterback. Everyone knows don't fight the quarterback. Was Cam Newton fighting against. Was it Josh Norman or others? But in that fight, Cam Newton was not the smaller human being. What was reported about Cam. Cam Ward fighting a guy is Simmons. He's a 360 pound person, is he not?

[Billy]

Jeffrey Simmons? I mean, he's put. He's put together. He's the baddest guy in the yard. When you're going at someone from Tennessee, you don't want to go at Jeffrey Simmons, but that's how Cam Ord is. And they asked him the very next day at practice, any lessons that you learn from your scuffle with Jeffrey Simmons. And he said, yeah, Jeff is strong as shit.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Six, four, 300 pounds.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so he's not 360. Forgive me.

[Billy]

No, he's. And he's built like it is a cut. 300.

[Mike]

I don't want you to feel bad about getting his weight wrong. I have a correction to a correction, Dan. Kyle schwaber does have 45 home runs. I was looking at Baseball Reference. Baseball Reference is having technical difficulties and they haven't updated their stats since Tuesday. So we're. I don't know what's going on.

[Dan Le Batard]

He didn't hit seven home runs.

[Chris]

Seven home runs?

[Mike]

Well, no, no, he had. No, I told you he had 43 this year. At 38 last year. I told you he had 43 this year he has 45 now. They haven't updated the site in at least two days.

[Dan Le Batard]

But is there any particular reason. As I was saying what I was saying about Schwaber. You just wanted to make sure that I had it right or you.

[Mike]

Yeah, we. I mean, this is. Is this. I'm sorry, is this not a journalistic entity?

[Dan Le Batard]

I know, but I did have it right. And then.

[Mike]

Well, no, you didn't. He saw at 38 last year. That hasn't changed. He didn't gain last year's home runs this year. Yeah, no, that has not been corrected.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Be cool if it carried over it.

[Mike]

Honestly, it would kind of. Or like you say, you know what? Like, I have my career home runs. Let's move. 72 is a lot in a season. Let's move this over. Or you say, you know what? Ken Griffey had, like, whatever. His Max was 61, but he had like 50 year before. He's like, you know what I want to do? Let's make it 110 for next season. That's the new Record, you know.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Mike]

You guys wanted to count postseason home runs. Everybody knows that's a crazy idea.

[Dan Le Batard]

Forgive me here for what's happening.

[Mike]

Sorry, buddy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy's got a major penalty. Five minutes for being Billy.

[Mike]

Billy.

[Billy]

It's Thursday, buddy.

[Mike]

See ya. Good call.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good call.

[Mike]

Barber still there or what?

[Chris]

You know, the Cameron Ward thing really reminds me of Mike to Giancarlo Stanton. And Speaking of Giancarlo Stanton.362 batting average.429 on base percentage.8.30 slugging percentage over his last 30 games. Only the second time in his career he's done that. The other time was when he won the MVP here in Miami in 2017.

[Mike]

Look at his ops.

[Chris]

Fire.

[Mike]

Look at his ops.

[Chris]

Crazy.

[Mike]

Jabra. Look at his ops the last two weeks.

[Chris]

It was nuts.

[Mike]

1800. I'm on my way out. But, yeah, look at it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just useless. Like, just fundamentally useless. Just making corrections that are wrong. Not helpful. Correcting corrections and those being wrong as well.

[Chris]

I mean, this is just 2040 in.

[Mike]

His last seven games.

[Chris]

Crazy baseball.

[Mike]

Gotta go.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've just been trying to get him into a baseball conversation for, like, four months. Can't do it. That's the one. He wants to have like, four months. I've been trying to get him into a basketball.

[Billy]

He said a report. You missed a solid month of it.

[Chris]

Let me tell you about that. Jacob. Marcy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've been trying to get Marlin's information out of it. Like he cares deeply. But it's all hidden. It's all covered in scars. He doesn't want anybody to see it.

[Mike]

There a meeting in there. So we're good. I'm back.

[Billy]

I'll go surface by.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait.

[Mike]

But I'm looking in there.

[Chris]

There's meeting.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll serve it. I'm looking in there right now. There's no one in there.

[Mike]

Door's closed. Be careful, too. Not a firefighter.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't need to break that door down. The penalty was not a request. You can leave and give me five.

[Chris]

Mike's serving it for him.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, no. That's not how it works either. I would like you to leave because I don't need you. So it wasn't optional. You can leave. Thank you.

[Mike]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Go ahead.

[Mike]

Look. But Stanton's never been crazy. You got to look into him. I was thinking at the deadline when people were like, stanton, he's still got it. Or not. I'm like, man, David Sampson keeps telling us the Marlins are still paying Stanton. What a story, huh? If the Yankees just release him and Then the Marlins just bring him back because they're paying him anyways. Right? I'll go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy's got a major penalty. Five minutes for being Billy. For four months, I've been trying to get some kind of baseball passion out of him.

[Mike]

I'm here if you want it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought I made clear I don't want it. I don't want anything from you. Baseball related at the moment. You've been a bit of a coward publicly. You don't want people to see that you care about the Marlins. You've been hiding in plain sight that it hurts. You don't give us anything. They go 4 11. Their season falls apart. You don't give us the pain of that falls apart.

[Chris]

But they've only lost a half game in that wild card race. How about Maximo Acosta's first home run?

[Dan Le Batard]

But it's just trying to get some content out of him with a crowbar. And it's on the Marlins. It's. It's the one he cares about. And he gives me nothing there as well, when he could be a real Marlins expert because he actually care. It's the only thing he cares about. If Chris, honest to God, if I say to you Billy cares more, Marlins or Dolphins? What's the answer to that?

[Chris]

Yeah, Marlins. I think it's his number one.

[Mike]

I would agree with you.

[Chris]

His kids. His kids and then the Marlins.

[Dan Le Batard]

I disagree. The kids have made him third place in his own household. When he goes to a Marlins game, Billy matters. People see Billy as a Marlins fan. Billy's a Billy walks. FIU campus and Marlins game are the place that Billy matters the most in town. Paws up. They love and respect him. He's a celebrity over there. He looks down his nose at the baseball nerd fixing the Marlins. What just happened in the other room? What is happening with our toy. Our toy department?

[Chris]

Zaz's hair.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do you mean? His hair fluid. Zaz's hair locker. Zaz has a hair locker?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I've been exposed. Oh, my God. Look away.

[Dan Le Batard]

What a tragedy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Look away.

[Dan Le Batard]

His hair's just gone.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No. No.

[Dan Le Batard]

What a tragedy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Take my eyes. Oh, my God.

[Dan Le Batard]

How embarrassing. What a public. I cannot believe that happened live in front of people. What a shame. Zaslow was confusing Nick Wright and others into thinking that his look was hair. But no, there's his box of hair right there.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Nick Wright. Is that really how Zaslow looks?

[Dan Le Batard]

Nick Wright is feuding again with Pablo Torre. He is infuriated that Pablo Torre just. He did something where he. I guess he tagged the Peabody on a crossword puzzle the other day and what a dork.

[Chris]

What a dork tagged the Peabody's on a crossword puzzle.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is. It is strange what Pablo is doing. He's like become the personification of what all the blue check marks used to be for liberal elite media. And it's like he's just the face of I will condescend.

[Billy]

You said it.

[Chris]

I love him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Obviously I do too. It's just funny to see him morph and to see the future thing that's going to get weapon. He'll beat you to death with his crossword puzzles and the Peabody trophies.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris]

Was that a fake chef dirt?

[Mike]

Because it was pretty good.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was excellent.

[Mike]

I feel like there's legs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I tried at the beginning and then I lost confidence. Confidence in it. Good. It was good.

[Mike]

You got this.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's nothing official. Conversations are still ongoing.

[Billy]

Sts.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is trending towards Nick Sirianni remaining the head coach of the Eagles. This is the D?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Ler show with the sts.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was an act of rebellion by Billy. That has no place in a Thursday. You guys are in agreement on this? Like, that was some Wednesday. Like, that's, like that's, that's, that's, that's Wednesday. Going to his head is what's happening there. And now he can't be controlled because he's a renegade.

[Chris]

Wait, are those his hands?

[Billy]

Just. Just chopped off my boner. We were talking about Cameron Ward fighting with a defensive tackle.

[Dan Le Batard]

So how was that covered? And. And, and do you guys have any historical perspective for me on. I thought we all understood you don't fight with the quarterback. Not Simmons, not anybody.

[Billy]

But here's the thing.

[Chris]

We talked about this last week. Me and Zaza were talking about. I think Mike was here. You want a quarterback that's going to get out there and fight. That's what I like. I like a dog. Michael Penix also last week fought with.

[Billy]

Somebody else on the other team, but.

[Chris]

Was part of a scuffle. I want my quarterback kind of like our men and women in uniform running towards the battle. I don't want my quarterback running back from the battle.

[Billy]

Sometimes starting the battle exactly right. That's what I like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. So when we examine how good these people are or aren't archmanning, I cannot remember a prospect that was coming in with this kind of expectation. Ed Orgeron was just on the Pardon My Take podcast and he was asked if he could coach anyone in college football. He said Arch is as close to or maybe as good as Joe Burrow that I've ever seen. I've never said that about anyone else.

[Billy]

But has he seen it at that position? I would agree.

[Chris]

And say it about Andrew Luck.

[Billy]

Last year. There was someone with a lot of hoopla, like, say what you will about Arch Manning, go on. In high school. No one's saying this could be the greatest quarterback of all time. And no one is even saying he could be the greatest Quarterback in his family. Everyone admits that he's great, but there's a long road there. Jeremiah Smith. In high school, people were saying this could be the greatest wide receiver of all time. And dude lived up to it.

[Chris]

To the Joe Burrow point. Like you didn't really know Joe Burrow until he burst on the scene, right? Like he played at Ohio State. He had to leave. Like he didn't really have a college resume either. And then he won the Heisman.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Joe Burrow examination to me, as someone who can have some difficulty accurately telling you who's going to be good at the position, the thing that became confusing to me about Joe Burrow is he was surrounded by the best roster I've ever seen. So I'd already seen that once with Ken Dorsey. Ken Dorsey was not a professional quarterback. He was made to look like a very cool, great college quarterback because all over the place he had advantages that no other team in the sport had. Orgeron's Burrow team was so good. The only. The best I've ever seen. That's the best football team I've ever seen. I couldn't separate, well, is Joe Burrow that good or are they making that game that easy for him? And then he gets to the pros and he also makes it look that.

[Billy]

Easy with one of the same receivers. But yeah, Joe Burrow very clearly great. I can't watch old Ken Dorsey so bad, Dan. It ruins my childhood. Dude doesn't hold up. It is so much worse than you think. It's not what I remember at all. We were saying throwing a medicine ball back there, anytime it's on at the.

[Chris]

Sandbar, I'm like, yikes.

[Billy]

Can't watch this. Really.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ken Dorsey had no arm. It was not a professional arm. Stephen Morris had a much better arm. Ken Dorsey was throwing. He was throwing shot to Clinton Portis and Willis McGahey and Andre Johnson, big old vascular Jeremy Shockey. Like it's all first round picks at every position and. And your quarterback is just throwing a small medicine ball in a seven yard out. I'm so Andre Johnson is open by 17 yards.

[Billy]

Really want to get me excited. Talk about this quarterback we got right now. Real good. Better fall camp.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, so wait a minute. So you're doing Carson Beck you are now going to do.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He just said better fall camp than camp.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Billy]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on.

[Billy]

Oh, wait. This is where the guy that didn't go to fall camp either here tells.

[Mike]

Me that I'm wrong.

[Dan Le Batard]

The only reason I'm going to ask you to hold on is because while I voted for Cam Ward for the Heisman last year, in my experience, only Vinnie Testaverde in the history of that position at the University of Miami, not even Jim Kelly, only Vinnie Testaverde at that position in my history had I looked at and said, oh, my God, that team is only good because that guy is a professional talent. Obviously, Vinny Testaverde had a bunch of talent around him, but I don't know, like, Cam Ward had some. But that team was good because Cam Ward was obviously a professional player. It's something I've never seen at the position at the University of Miami. Not even with Vinnie Testaverde. Not even with Vinnie, who had a professional skill set and was number one.

[Billy]

100% agree, Dan. I think he. Miami's had in their program since Sean Taylor and.

[Dan Le Batard]

And it was recognizable to me. And this is not something I've experienced very much either. 36 years watching in this market, University of Miami football, as soon as I saw him, I'm like, oh, my God, first game, oh, that's a pro. That's a. Those are all pro throws. He is rolling around back in the pocket. He's way too relaxed back there. He's got this all under control. I don't think I'm going to see that from March, man. Do you think you're going to see that from Arch Manning like you think you're going to see in the first game? A professional skill set against Ohio State that tells you immediately, oh, one of the best prospects I've ever seen.

[Billy]

Yes, I do. With Arch Manning, I don't think he's going to play the game like Cameron Ward did. I think very few players are capable of playing the game like Cameron Ward did. Cameron Ward's a bit of an artist. And when I say Carson Beck has had a better fall camp than Cameron Ward, because it's a bit of a rhetorical trick. Cameron Moore didn't have the greatest fall camp. He was kind of messing around and trying stuff out. It was only until like, install for Florida that we kind of realized, okay, this is the guy that we had here in spring. But Cameron Ward approaches the game in different ways. Cameron Ward was always running for his life at every other stop that he was ever at. So he had one of the better offensive lines in the nation. And rather than just play the game conventionally like he had been, or. Or wait until the last second to make checks at the line because his blocking was so bad, dude just took the opportunity to improvise, drop Way back in the pocket. And he had the arm to show it off.

[Dan Le Batard]

Would you do me the favor, please, Chris Cody, of finding for me the ruling, the judge stuff that brings Zaslow's weightiest pronouncements. Because I'd like a ruling from Zaslow. I'm gonna have to change, I think, out of respect. Respect for Cameron Ward, his wishes and his family's wishes. I'm going to have to stop calling him Cam Ward. But it's going to take me a minute because it's super easy. It's how I've been saying it. I'm an old person. I don't want to change my ways. And the two syllables, I like it better. Cam Ward. They're inconveniencing me with changing his name on me when I've gotten used to it as Cam Warden. So I'd like a ruling from Zaslow as a judge on how long I'm allowed to get this wrong. Because I don't want to be disrespectful. If it's. If he wants to. If his mama calls him Cameron, I'm gonna call him Cameron.

[Billy]

It's literally what happened.

[Dan Le Batard]

And so I've got to do that, I think. But I'm not sure. And how long before I start getting penalized for it because I'm being disrespectful? If I don't make the change because he wants me to. But I had trouble like Mark Super Duper when he wanted to change his name to Super Duper. It took me a minute. Ochocinko, when he did that professionally, it took me a minute. I don't get there right away. I've been calling him Cam War. So, Zaslow, can I get a ruling here, please?

[Billy]

All rise. The honorable Jonathan Zaslow, now presiding with prejudice.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So the question at hand is, are you to be penalized for not calling him Cameron Ward?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay. He's been called Cam Ward his entire collegiate career. He gets drafted number one overall by the Titans. Now he wants to be called a whole new name, Cameron Ward. My ruling. There will be no penalty for continuing to call him Cam Ward. Forgivable, with prejudice. Forgiven.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because like you said, there. All right, there have been other players who then change their name. Ochocinko, even Giancarlo Stanton. But that was after they were established stars. Cam Ward does not get to change his name when he hasn't even played a game yet. No, no, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

How many games does he have to play before he can change his name?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He could play as many games he wants. But if he sucks, you're not changing your name. He has to be good. You gotta prove something if I'm gonna acknowledge a name change.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Like you remember when Henry Walker was playing for the Heat and all of a sudden he wanted to be called Bill? Nah, player. You're Henry Walker and I never called him Bill. So the answer is you will not be penalized.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't remember that, actually. Thank you for remembering it as a two time champion broadcast.

[Chris]

I think he has it switched. I think his name was Bill Walker and he wanted to be called Henry.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's exactly the point.

[Chris]

And we were like, wait a second, you're Bill.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Exactly the point. Forgive it.

[Billy]

He hit a game winner against the magic. And I was like, you can be called whatever you want.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

My court.

[Chris]

William Henry Walker, previously known as Bill Walker, then became Henry.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what? I'm not understanding this path. I don't understand this whole path. You just brought up one of the most obscure memories in the history of South Florida. And it's one of the most wonderful as well where Henry insisted on being called Bill. And this is just hours or half hour from Jeremy reporting and Chris reporting that we have our first bob in major league baseball in 15 years. I don't remember this controversy. It's a wonderful controversy. We should get Henry on and ask him if he's built.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'll call him Henry right to his face. You're Henry player.

[Billy]

You remember that game winner though.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I do.

[Billy]

That was electric.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's cool. I was like, henry, that was awesome.

[Mike]

How do you feel about, like, Steve Smith, who then wanted to be known as Steve Smith senior?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Nah, nah, oh nah, nah. Prejudice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Randy Scott's mustache on SportsCenter is totally ridiculous. He is being somebody. What are you shaking your head know about our friend Randy Scott?

[Chris]

It draws attention.

[Billy]

I love Randy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Randy Scott loves you guys, by the way.

[Billy]

He's a great guy. A great guy. I still text with him.

[Mike]

Same.

[Billy]

You're still holding on to that. That's all right. You're a legacy cast member. You're entitled to think he sucks and want him fired. The mustache is drawing attention to the obvious hair dye situation that we have.

[Chris]

Here going on, which he admits to. He doesn't hide that.

[Billy]

Yeah, but the shade. Let's go medium brown. Medium brown is fine.

[Chris]

Pops like the mustache makes it pop more. I'm with Mike on this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, I believe that you guys are not getting Randy Scott's sense of humor here. I believe Randy Scott is looking funny on television and making fun of himself and what he does for a living with a real comedian's grace.

[Mike]

Now he's a dumb. Dumb. He's not that aware.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I. And I also believe, though, that when he offered up the vulnerability on SportsCenter, that he takes a nap immediately after cutting his own lawn. It is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, without washing.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, with that. That's the whole thing. Yes. No, taking a nap after. After cutting your lawn. I understand being that tired. Not showering after cutting your lawn.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's got like the blades of grass all over.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he's taking a nap after that. That's crazy talk.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It is crazy that he mows his own lawn.

[Chris]

Randy and Gary Striesky are the best duo doing Sports.

[Billy]

I agree 100%. It's just a damn shame he decided to go the same shade as Marco Rubio.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wanted to ask you guys off of SportsCenter, and I thought it was really cool. It was nice to watch Rich Eisen make his return. I was legitimately stunned that he hadn't done a SportsCenter in 22 years. That longer than our show has been around has been Rich eisen not doing SportsCenter. That time period confused me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, like you would have thought he would have made a guest appearance at some point is.

[Dan Le Batard]

I did not think that Rich Eisen had left ESPN 23 years ago. That time went by very quickly. Our show has not existed long enough to encapsulate that time. So I was just stunned that his return to SportsCenter had taken 23 years. He never expected it, obviously. But it got me to thinking. SportsCenter has been that franchise's signature content epicenter forever. It's the most important thing there. It is their jewel of how it is that they connect with their public. It has been protected. It is a wonderful jewel, one of the most enduring things there's ever been in the history of sports or entertainment. But we don't need highlights anymore that way. And so you've got Scott Van Pelt over here. And it's hard to make a noise with your anchor. Cause people aren't really gathered around the television to watch television sports highlights anymore. But Eisen and Scott Van Pelt have a genuine audience connection somewhere in the place where Corso has it, where it makes your corporation stronger. Because the people inside of the community are people who take their audience with them and have an audience that cares about the totality of their personality. And so it's really cool to see SportsCenter morph into something thing that needs individuals more than the individuals need SportsCenter. Because it seems to me that right now it's pretty disposable outside of a couple of people there, right? You can. All the anchors are interchangeable. They're professionals. But that's sort of an outdated way of doing media business. I thought of this the other day. You guys got all excited on the local radio stuff. When we were talking about it, I saw a just an announcement that G Money was headed back to evenings on Y100. And I'm like, what is that?

[Billy]

Glenn Rice is doing evening?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I didn't even know he was doing radio.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, what does that mean, that Y100 still has evenings in the middle of the night?

[Mike]

What happened to Michael?

[Billy]

Yo, he's doing Kane's content now.

[Mike]

Really?

[Billy]

Yeah. He's doing something with Donna.

[Mike]

How's Mama yo doing?

[Billy]

I don't know.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Chris]

Where's Elvis Duran?

[Billy]

Still national.

[Mike]

Froggy, though, somehow has joins the national show remotely on Y100. It's weird. You want to do local radio talk, I'm your guy. Here we go. You know, Power 96 is now throwbacks.

[Billy]

They're throwback jams.

[Mike]

It's just the same catalog of songs.

[Chris]

They still do the power Hour, though, right?

[Mike]

I don't think so.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

There are no more DJs.

[Billy]

You saw the midday shakeup still there.

[Mike]

Don't worry.

[Billy]

La gringa mas Latina.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Kim Ree switched over to English language. Now doing middays over at Y100.

[Chris]

Highlight owner.

[Mike]

I saw that. Yeah, she's one of your rivals. Hey, speaking of highlight, wasn't your draft.

[Chris]

The other day feeling good about it?

[Billy]

Mike, I'll fist you right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, we brought back bueno. We got him in the draft in Yaqui and Malnu. You know that. They were frozen. But check this out. We added it. We had a tough decision to make. Do we go rots or unda?

[Mike]

What would you do, Dan?

[Billy]

We took the unda solely based off of marketing because we want to play the unda.

[Chris]

Teka or take the unda.

[Billy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We want to call it. You have tonight. You have to face the undertaker player.

[Chris]

We also have Stan, who we made fun of last year.

[Billy]

Hey, we have Sam. I don't think he's so thrilled about being a backorder. But Stan's there.

[Chris]

But Billy, you've been critical. Billy. Manu, I'm telling you, we've been doing this song and dance with Manu for a few years now. Bunch of different drafts you can always tell by the look in Manu's eye how he feels about the team. The last few, he's been not happy, this one. He likes our squad.

[Billy]

He likes our squad.

[Chris]

I'm telling you, we're back. And this is actually the last season at Magic City City. So we started Magic State.

[Mike]

They're moving, shutting it down.

[Chris]

Bigger things.

[Billy]

Bigger, bigger, bigger.

[Mike]

High Mark Stadium.

[Chris]

So we were the. The first season at Magic City.

[Dan Le Batard]

We won.

[Chris]

Guess what we're gonna do? Bookend it. Oh, yeah, bookend it.

[Billy]

You excited?

[Mike]

Where's it going next?

[Billy]

Can't wait to spend my 40th birthday there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you guys considered the idea of just, like, changing Manu's name to Henry or Bill to make it something that can reach more people locally?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Not in my court room.

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