The Big Suey: Chris Fowler's Game Prep (feat. Chris Fowler, Pablo Torre, Amin Elhassan, and Jason Tache)

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Episode: The Big Suey: Chris Fowler's Game Prep
Date: January 16, 2026
Featuring: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Chris Fowler, Pablo Torre, Amin Elhassan, Jason Tache

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Overview

This episode, recorded at the Elser Hotel in downtown Miami, features an extended conversation with ESPN broadcaster Chris Fowler about his preparation for calling the Miami-Indiana college football championship game. The crew dives into the remarkable story of Indiana’s football rise, Miami’s resurgence, game preparation, sports narrative, and even dips into NBA trade talk and campus nostalgia. The episode blends in signature Le Batard humor and energetic banter with analysis.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chris Fowler’s Game Preparation and Philosophy

[03:03, 24:28]

• Fowler discusses the painstaking research and meticulous preparation he does ahead of big games, including his color-coded, densely packed “spotter charts.”
• Only about 5–10% of the research ever makes it on air:
  • Fowler: “If a lot of that gets in the broadcast, then I’ve done a terrible [job]. I’ve smothered the game with data… Under 5% of the stuff I’ve seen gets on the air.” [25:25]
• Prepares stories in multiple lengths for use during frenetic or slow gameplay (30 seconds, one sentence, five words).

2. The Unlikely Rise of Indiana Football

[03:34, 21:59]

• Indiana’s postseason wins and underdog story are central themes—historically the worst Power 4 program.
  • “Indiana has three postseason wins in their history… This is not that surprising. Were 100 to 1 [odds] to win a championship at the beginning of the year.” —Chris Fowler [03:34]
• Indiana’s disciplined, experienced, mistake-free style, and the impact of the transfer portal and NIL on rapid program turnarounds.

3. Who’s the Real Cinderella? Miami or Indiana?

[04:45]

• Despite being underdogs, Indiana isn’t viewed as a Cinderella anymore given their trajectory.
  • “‘I don’t know who Cinderella is, but it’s definitely not Indiana… 100 years of futility has been convincingly wiped away here.’” —Chris Fowler [05:03]
• Vegas lines reflect public confidence in Indiana; Miami is doubted even at home.

4. Keys to the Game

[05:37, 06:17]

• Miami must avoid penalties and play clean; Indiana doesn’t beat itself.
• RPO (run-pass option) usage and Mendoza’s exceptional red zone performance (22 TD, 0 INT in the red zone) are discussed.

5. Indiana’s Modern Dominance: Not the ‘Hoosiers’ Movie

[21:59]

• Indiana’s success is explained as a modern phenomenon: older players, transfer portal savvy, and NIL.
  • “‘They’re not a bunch of good players who are wildly overachieving… they’re using the portal and NIL in a really smart way. The story is remarkable because of their historical futility, but the way they’ve used the modern tools at their disposal… there’s no comparable.’” —Chris Fowler [22:40]

6. Historic and Narrative Comparisons

• Kansas State’s Bill Snyder era raised as the closet analog, but Indiana’s ascent is called unprecedented due to speed and method.

7. Chris Fowler’s Accolades & Reflections

[27:35]

• Fowler talks about the honor of narrating defining moments in college football.
  • “‘It’s a tremendous honor… Have fans of a team tell you years down the line that they played your call… Over and over again… that’s a very cool thing that I don’t stop and reflect on often enough.’” —Chris Fowler [27:45]

8. Miami Head Coach Mario Cristobal: National Perceptions

[09:27]

• Initially doubted, Cristobal’s reputation is rising due to Miami’s late-season resilience and improved situational coaching.
  • “‘I think Mario has grown tremendously as a coach this season and especially the second half of this season. Nationally, people [are] starting to see that.’” —Chris Fowler [10:37]

9. Le Batard’s (Perceived) Anti-Miami Stance

[10:57, 11:34]

• Dan addresses some Miami fans seeing him as unsupportive; Fowler defends skepticism after SMU loss but credits Miami’s turnaround.

10. Familiarity Between Programs & Coaching Chess

[17:13]

• Both teams’ coaching staffs and transfers know each other’s tendencies; preparation and subtle advantages discussed.

11. Comedic Bits and Banter

• Pablo Torre’s drive-by pick (“Miami”) [18:48]
• Zaslow’s infamous “Packers winner or Bears lose?” soliloquy mocked and analyzed by Fowler [20:37]
• Running jokes about dorks, the Rat Skeller, and Miami campus nostalgia.

12. NBA Trade Speculation: Ja Morant to the Heat?

[37:07]

• Amin Elhassan explains why, due to contract, injury and off-court concerns, Ja Morant might be acquirable for a surprisingly low cost.
  • “‘If John Morant’s available for Terry Rozier and Simone Fontecchio, I think you get him and figure out the rest after.’” —Amin Elhassan [37:44]
• Debate on the changing value of cap space and free agency in the NBA.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Chris Fowler on Indiana’s Unprecedented Run

“A program that had won three postseason games in its history wins three postseason games this run and crushes teams… Until this year had the most losses in FBS… They’re not supposed to be in this position… The way they’ve used the modern tools at their disposal, which was never possible before, that’s why there’s no comparable.”
—Chris Fowler [21:59]

On Game Preparation

“Only under 5% of the stuff I’ve seen gets on the air. What gets on the chart? 10% might be a good guess.”
—Chris Fowler [25:25]

On the Broadcast and Storytelling

“You can’t script the lines… What you hope in those moments is that it just happens naturally… It came up through the soul and it came out.”
—Chris Fowler [28:54]

Mario Cristobal’s Growth

“I think Mario has grown tremendously as a coach this season, especially the second half of this season. Nationally, people starting to see that.”
—Chris Fowler [10:37]

On Sharing the Big Game Moments

“It’s a tremendous honor… that they played your call of Georgia winning or Alabama winning… when they need a boost… and it’s your voice.”
—Chris Fowler [27:45]

Zaslow’s Comic Gold:

“The packers winner or the Bear lose? Bears lose. Packers winner. The bear lose. Bears lose.”
—Zaslow [20:37]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chris Fowler Joins & Game Preparation: [03:03 – 04:45], [24:28 – 27:35]
• Indiana’s Underdog Story: [03:34 – 06:17], [21:59 – 24:15]
• Discussion: Who’s Cinderella? [04:45 – 05:03], [05:03 – 06:17]
• Cristobal’s Reputation: [09:27 – 10:57]
• Le Batard as Miami “Skeptic”: [11:22 – 12:47]
• NBA Trade Talk Ja Morant: [37:07 – 39:59]
• Pablo Torre’s “Miami” prediction: [18:48]
• Zaslow Bit & Fowler’s Analysis: [20:37 – 21:28]
• Campus Nostalgia & Rat Skeller: [40:38 – 42:58]

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Tone and Style

• Conversation is energetic, funny, and rooted in sports storytelling, blending analysis and friendly ribbing.
• Fowler is measured and eloquent, while the Le Batard crew brings humor, irreverence, and “local hour” flavor.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a masterclass in big-game preparation, compelling sports storytelling, and the blend of modern and traditional college football narratives—framed by Chris Fowler’s professionalism and the show’s signature Miami-infused irreverence. The hour navigates from detailed analysis of the Miami-Indiana matchup, to the mechanics and pressure of live commentary, to the possibilities of unlikely NBA trades, all sprinkled with classic Le Batard banter, nostalgia, and self-deprecation.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Fowler]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan LeBatard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Chris Fowler]

I've done it.

[Zaslow]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual liar.

[Zaslow]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Chris Fowler will be here in a little while. Dominique Foxworth at some point will be here. We've got an assortment of guests crashing the proceedings at various points during the next couple of hours. In the interim though, can you do me the favor please of playing the sound of show friend Nick Turturro. Friend or brother of John Turturro? Friend of the show Nick Turturro just going crazy because now the dodgers also at $60 million a year for four years have Kyle Tucker 45th in war.

[Zaslow]

You gotta be kidding me. Kyle Tucker did the Dodgers. I thought he was gonna be a met of all things. What are we looking at? It's repeat now you. What's going on? MLB do something. Enough is enough.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone agrees is that the entire Marlins payroll did they just 80%. 80% of the Marlins payroll.

I think the Marlins right now have 76 million committed to players on their major league roster for next season. And he just got 60 to be their fourth best offensive player.

[Zaslow]

Loved him on NYPD Blue.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris Fowler is going to be here in a second. But the Harbaugh stuff, we haven't actually talked about it very much around here. The idea that Harbaugh was wouldn't even be in any way interested in the Dolphins.

[Zaslow]

Stephen Ross didn't go on my idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

Or available to the Dolphins.

[Chris Fowler]

Your idea?

[Zaslow]

Oh, he'd have been available.

[Dan LeBatard]

50 million a year. He got 20 million a year. Zaz wanted to pay him.

[Zaslow]

50 million he would have made available, I assure you.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, he would have been for 50. Yeah, yeah, he would have been here.

[Zaslow]

I just don't. I'm not saying that they should have given Harbaugh 50. What I'm saying is, if I had Steven Ross's money, if I wanted something.

[Chris Fowler]

I would get it.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is exactly how I imagine the backdrop behind Chris Fowler would be. Just a nice house, impossibly sleek, just impossible. All of the details handled. Not a thing out of place, not a hair out of place. You're already ready. You're ready for this Giant game, the most seismic game in the history of games, are you not?

[Chris Fowler]

We did a fast cleanup man. There were shoes and packages over there by the door. I promise you, it's not tidy like this all the time. I'm trying to get ready. My chart's a long way from being full, Dan, but I've still got time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, people probably don't understand how meticulous you are or what it takes to be as good as you are at calling this particular game. So in all of the research that you've been doing, Chris, without giving away your best material, what are the things that you find most interesting, most unique to your experience covering college football about this game?

[Chris Fowler]

Well, the collision of the stories. I mean, Indiana has three postseason wins in their history. They began playing like an 1890 something coming into this year. They have three already and trying to get it right, get a third one against Miami 100 to 1 at the start of the season. People think, oh, Indiana was good last year. This is not that surprising. Were 100 to 1, win a championship at the beginning of the year, Miami was 100 to 1 on Selection Sunday. People do not think they're going to get in the bracket, much less win it. So you got a really interesting collision of stories. Obviously, I could. I could throw a mountain of data at you because that's part of the preparation. I knew Indiana was good, by the way. I prepped for the Rose Bowl. I watched seven Indiana games in the regular season because we don't cover the Big Ten in the regular season. And what jumped out at me was how solid they are. Didn't surprise me. They crushed Alabama or Oregon. Nothing would surprise me from this team. I will not underestimate Indiana, as some Miami fans are still doing. But, no, it's just. It's. It's the collision of these two stories and Miami trying to. To win a championship with a fifth different coach which is pretty cool. And you know, it's a home field game, not a home crowd game for the Canes. There's so many different angles to this thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's fun, obviously, right? Historically, Indiana is an improbability. They would always be Cinderella. But have you encountered a lot of situations where the eight and a half point underdog doesn't get the eight and a half point underdog with two losses playing the undefeated team doesn't get to be Cinderella?

[Chris Fowler]

No, I don't know who Cinderella is, but it's definitely not Indiana. I mean, not at this point. Okay. I mean the, the 100 years of futility has been convincingly wiped away here. It's first after first after first. And now, you know, that number just been going up. So Vegas sets the number and then the public agrees that Indiana is going to roll through this game and that number just keeps climbing. So. Cristobal has always told me that Miami has 20 years of hatred as fuel. Now they get a little more fuel because people don't believe on their home field that they can hang with the Hoosiers.

[Dan LeBatard]

What do you think?

[Chris Fowler]

They better play clean. They better not make mistakes like they did against Ole Miss. Don't drop four interceptions. Don't have major penalties on defense giving the offense a free 15 yards. Don't have false start moving your offense back five yards. And you can't do that stuff because Indiana is not going to make mistakes typically. And unless you can get them out of their pattern, it's frightening. Efficiency. That's what you see when you dive into the numbers, man. At every situational deal. Third down, off the charts, red zone, off the charts. They don't commit turnovers. They take the ball away. They don't commit penalties. I mean, there are a bunch of 24, 25 year old guys who played four or five and six years of football. They just don't make mistakes. So Miami better not.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a crazy thing to say. So they'll go, go, you know, about 25% of the time, RPO. They'll go back shoulder throws. You're expecting to see no mistakes from them offensively because Mendoza's 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions in the red zone.

[Chris Fowler]

I'm not expecting to see that. Because championship games have a weird dynamic, as we know in any sport. Little bit static on the brain. People do things they haven't done all season because of the pressure. He seems pretty immune from that. But this is a championship game and it's a once in a lifetime opportunity for him and for A lot of those guys who have paid their dues and been very poised under pressure, I still think there's the possibility that you can have a mini meltdown from one team or the other. I've seen Peyton Manning choke in a Super Bowl. Not regularly, but it happens. And if that's possible, anything's possible in a football field. So, you know. But if he plays the same way he played against Oregon, Mendoza put the ball exactly where it had to be. I've never seen ball placement quite like that against a pretty damn good defense with pretty tight coverage a lot of times. And it was exactly where it had to be. And it is undefendable in the way that, you know, Aaron Rodgers in his prime would put the ball on a spot. Does it matter how good the coverage is? Does it matter if the DB is an All Pro? You can't defend it. And on a college level, there have been games I've watched for Mendoza and Indiana's offense is like that.

[Zaslow]

You're down here, Chris. Is anyone hitting you up for tickets?

[Chris Fowler]

Yeah, the smart Jones did. So two months ago, I posted the prices for these tickets on the aftermarket, trying to discourage people. If you haven't called me by now, don't call. Yes, I've bought a lot of people that need free tickets. I bought a number of tickets to various people and the face price is 1400. So that's why the ticket prices are high with the scalpers, because the CFP is not letting the scalpers make all the money. The face price is pretty high.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who's the historical comp on Mendoza? Not necessarily Story. I'm talking about that collegiate accuracy.

[Chris Fowler]

Good question. I mean, Andrew Luck was pretty damn accurate. He's one of the most accurate guys that I saw and his cerebral sense of what to do pre snap. Mendoza's kind of lines up with that. I mean, he's kind of a savant guy. I mean, so is Carson Beck. Carson Beck considers himself elite and mentally processing. He considers himself PhD savant level. And other coaches who've coached, coached him and coached against him would agree with that. Beck's career is still undervalued and Mendoza's burst on the scene as a guy that, you know, didn't beat a ranked team at Cal. No disgrace. He didn't have great teammates around him. So his rise has been meteoric, sort of in one season. And that's why I think there's still people who are waiting for him to come crashing down to earth. And they thought it was going to be at Oregon or the last drive against Penn State or Ohio State or Alabama. He's just passed every test with an A. And the fact that he's down here playing the program that didn't recruit him. His dad played high school ball with Cristobal, as I'm sure a lot of your audience knows. It's just an incredible collision of stories down here that you really couldn't script.

[Zaslow]

Chris, what do you think the national reputation of Mario Cristobal is?

[Chris Fowler]

It's improving, I'll tell you that. Because when they took a loss November 1st, and I'm. I'm going to admit when they lost at SMU and the first game of November, I'm thinking, man, I. I know the history here. I know Mario seems fade down the stretch. They don't get stronger and better when it's winning time late in the season, which is what you have to do if you're going to be in their position they're in now. And he. He turned that around. He got his guys to embrace the urgency, to embrace the pressure. They obviously, as you know, playing playoff games really, since the beginning of November, went on the road for the last two of the regular season, played their best ball, went on the road at A and M in Dallas, in Phoenix, and played great games every time. I mean, not good and good enough to win gritty, tough, resilient games. And I think that people are now seeing him manage the game a little bit better. These situational opportunities he's had, which were not always his strength. I think Mario has grown tremendously as a coach this season and especially the second half of this season. I don't know what you guys think, but I think that's what I think. And I think nationally, people starting to see that he's got some great qualities as a coach. He hires great assistants. Heatherman was a great hire as dc, and I think he's made solid hires. And he's obviously always been a very strong recruiter, developer of players at certain positions. And now I think it's all kind of come together. And I think that this run has reshaped what the national narrative is about Mario.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike, the last couple of days have been getting a lot of applause from UM fans. Cain's insight is blowing up because Mike Ryan represents the voice of the fan. I just want an impartial national voice like you, Chris Fowler. Mike's been yelling at because he thinks I have not been supportive of Miami. And I'm just curious what your thoughts are when I tell you that Miami fans think I've been an am. Anti Miami.

[Chris Fowler]

Well, I know you, Dan. You could be seen as anti because you didn't. What, Jump on the bandwagon? I mean. I mean, have you changed your opinion? Have you changed your opinion? I mean, in the last two months.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, but how could you not? They've won the three biggest games that they've played in 20 years in a row, one of them as an underdog.

[Chris Fowler]

I just got done saying there were reasons to doubt Nov. 1 after they lost SMU. Because it was some same old stuff, man. A roughing the passer marginal call, maybe, but it prolonged SMU's drive. They don't lose that game if they don't commit that penalty. And I thought that was. That was a bad sign. But they've rallied together. Guys like Mark Fletcher, priceless leadership. Bain, Mezador. You got a lot of wise, older, experienced players. You got a guy like Tony who seems like he's 28 even though he's barely 18. So the ingredients on this team were there. If you didn't notice it from the outside, it's because you don't have that kind of access. I meant me included. I mean, I didn't know what to expect from this group, but. But they responded spectacularly. They played great football. They've been resilient within these games, and here they go now they're being counted out, not given a chance on their home field. If they play smart football, they can win. I think they present problems from Indiana that other teams have not. The pure physicality, the lineup. We can go on and on, but, I mean, I believed in this team. I just. I was doubting after the SMU game for sure.

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[Zaslow]

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[Chris Fowler]

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[Chris Fowler]

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[Jeremy's Brother]

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[Chris Fowler]

If the audio.

[Zaslow]

That's not true.

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[Jeremy's Brother]

And there's a World War II veteran pitching it to another white guy and he avoids another white guy. Oh, my God. Notre Dame.

[Zaslow]

The Fighting Irish have done it again.

[Jeremy's Brother]

For the eighth time while we're playing white people stugats.

[Chris Fowler]

Chubby Checker.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Sorry, he's black. He's black. And I was really named Chubby Checker. I picked up like, I'm sorry, man. I'm improv in here. This is a pretty cool riff.

[Dan LeBatard]

Running down the side.

[Jeremy's Brother]

He spells it differently.

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[Jeremy's Brother]

His name is Chub. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Chubby Checkers. There's an S at the end.

[Zaslow]

I feel like that should be the largest of five.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Yeah, Chubby Chuck. It sounds like a college football name.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stu Cats.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Chris. For two teams that never play one another, they actually, if you read between the lines, know each other quite well. With Signetti having Heatherman on his staff with Brock Shot. Transferring over to Indiana. I don't know if this is a game that's going to have a lot of secrets and it probably amplifies your point about execution. No.

[Chris Fowler]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the secret shot factor is that he's going to go over there and open the playbook for him. I mean, I think if you're, if you're a coach and you're naturally paranoid, you're a little bit concerned about that. But I think familiarity is a part of it. I mean, Signetti is pretty damn good at preparation. He leaves no stone unturned. He knows stuff that maybe we shouldn't be surprised that he knows because I really haven't covered him. But he is sort of like a savant that way, mentally. And they're going to be very prepared. I think if you're Miami and Indiana's linebacker Aiden Fisher is over there calling out the play before it happens. Judging the formation of his tape study, you should be concerned because he's done that in games this year. He did it to Oregon twice. And I think Alabama felt like, are they stealing our signals? Is there some way? You know, these rumors are out there. They've hacked into the cloud. That's how prepared they are, is that people think they're cheating to do it, which is, you know, kind of preposterous. But, yeah, I mean, Signetti is going to be prepared, and he's going to be hard to fool, and his staff is, too.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, we got another guest here. Oh, this is not. This is not promising. This is long winded here, so I don't know if this is going to be short. Pablo, the University of Miami against Indiana. Who are you picking?

[Chris Fowler]

Miami.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Excellent work. That's the way.

[Chris Fowler]

That's the way we want to do that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good contributions.

[Jeremy's Brother]

See you on the rooftop, bud.

[Zaslow]

Bye, Pablo.

[Chris Fowler]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Pablo Torrey finds out the most popular sports podcast, sort of sports podcast going right now in America as a hot new thing I'm seeing on the screen here, it says, first take. Coming up, Chris Fowler joins the show.

[Chris Fowler]

I do join the show. That is the next assignment.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Jeremy's Brother]

That's his heart out at 10.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, he's got a heart out.

[Chris Fowler]

I got some time. That's a little bit later.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so he's got some time.

[Chris Fowler]

So, Chris, you're sandwiched in between Greenberg and Stephen A. I don't know if you feel comfortable with that, but this is a Friday morning.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want you as a professional broadcaster, always, always polished. Your colleague here, ESPN Radio, Zaslow, he said this earlier in the week. I want you to translate it. As a professional broadcaster, you want to know how that.

[Zaslow]

What were the kids doing, man? See, this was afraid of. I got so much respect for Chris Fowler, now I'm embarrassed.

[Dan LeBatard]

So. So what was he describing here? Chris, do you want to take any kind of guess for what it is that he was trying to say here? What are you hearing?

[Chris Fowler]

I'm pretty sure it was English, but I don't get much behind that. I hear excitement, I hear enthusiasm. I hear.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but translate this. Who. What is he talking about?

[Zaslow]

You want to know how that. What were the kids doing?

[Chris Fowler]

I mean, not being a parrot, it could mean anything. I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, he doesn't have a guest. Not in the world.

[Zaslow]

Look, I would love to have Chris Fowler on with me and Amber Wilson on Monday for College Football Campus Tour. And now when he's asked, he's going to hear the Name Zazzle. The guy doesn't know how to talk.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, so let's give him something else here. What is he saying here? Chris, what is your analysis? It's not just college football, you know. You know, professional football as well. You answer this question.

[Zaslow]

The packers win or the Bear lose? Bears lose. Packers winner. The bear lose. Bears lose.

[Chris Fowler]

I think both were wrong. So you're over two with that one.

[Zaslow]

I mean, are the Bear lose. Bears lose. Man, it's.

[Chris Fowler]

But that's. But that's a legit question, don't you think?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, no, I don't think, because the Packers. All right, well, just because the game was won by. By the Bears.

[Zaslow]

The packers winner.

[Chris Fowler]

The Bear lose.

[Zaslow]

Bears lose.

[Chris Fowler]

Yeah, but sometimes, you know, like Monday night, it's possible that Miami loses the game and Indiana doesn't win the game. I mean, on the scoreboard, they would. But what's the more important factor? Like, are your mistakes going to outweigh what the other team did? That's what I think he's trying to say.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, maybe I was using some nuance, right, Chris.

[Chris Fowler]

The look. I don't care what you say, man. The look overpowers all the. All the inability to communicate. I love the look. So just, you know, keep rolling.

[Dan LeBatard]

The. It goes without saying that there's never been in the history of the sport a historic sport, The Indiana story. What, in your perspective, is second place in terms of rival. Rivaling improbabilities of. After this game, if they beat Miami, Chris, it's going to be hard to argue against them having the best season ever.

[Chris Fowler]

Yeah, not the best team ever, if you're going to look at talent, but the best season ever because no one's done 16 or no. Since the 1800s. And Yale didn't have a. A jogger. Not schedule back the year that they did it 100 to one preseason. Despite the success last year, nobody gave them a shot. And, you know, I think that it would be the postseason run that would define it, let's say, and I don't think this happens, but let's say they crushed Miami. So a program that had won three postseason games in its history, three postseason wins, beginning with Lee Corso on the Holiday bowl, wins three postseason games this run and crushes teams in the doing of that. To me, it'd be hard to argue with this because they're still the team that until this year had the most losses in fbs, had the worst winning percentage all time of any Power 4 team. They're not supposed to be in this position. That's why I think the storybook fits. But it's not Hoosiers, the basketball high school team. So it's not that. It's not a bunch of 5 foot 8 guys wildly overachieving and knocking off the big city school. Gene Hackman measured the hoop and it was just the same as their home gym. It's not that these are really good football players. They're doing it in the modern way. They're doing it with guys who have been at 2, 3, 4 schools who are 24, 25, 26 years old in some cases. And they're using the portal and they're using nil in a really smart way. So, you know, it's not like they're not good team. They're not a bunch of good players who are wildly overachieving. That's not what this team is. It's. The story is remarkable because of their historical futility, but the way they've used the modern tools at their disposal, which was never possible before, that's why there's no comparable. Bill Snyder turned around Kansas State, obviously, long ago, and they were the worst team in history. And they became competitive and came close to playing for a national championship in the late 90s. But. But Signetti did it in two years and that's what you can now do with the modern tools. And if you use them brilliantly, which he has, this kind of thing is possible going forward. Like we've seen in the NFL many times, a team goes from last in the division to winning the division. It's almost common now, but in college it's been obviously impossible.

[Dan LeBatard]

Two last questions here. As someone who knows that you are vastly over prepared for the moment, what percentage of your prep will make it into a game? What percentage.

[Chris Fowler]

I'm going to lean in and grab something here, so forgive me. I'm going to show you the chart. I posted this at Instagram, but this is, this is the chart not for this game, because the chart for this game's got a long way to go. But this is Miami having the football. Can you see, can you see how little this writing is? Yeah, this is the spotter chart. This is Miami's offense in the bottom and this is Ole Miss defense up top. And to answer your question, yes, wildly over prepared. A fraction of that gets in the broadcast. Because if a lot of that gets in the broadcast, then I've done a terrible. I've smothered the game with data that's just. That has like key one line things reminding me to get to a story that I want to tell. It has performances in key games and situations. It has a lot of data about each offense and defense. But I promise not to ruin the game by reading it on the air.

[Dan LeBatard]

But over under 10%, 5% of the material that you have prepared that you will actually use.

[Chris Fowler]

I would say because there's much more than I that I've actually prepared that doesn't even get on the chart. So I would say under 5% of the stuff I've seen gets on the air. What gets on the chart? 10% might be a good guess. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

The reason I asked the question is because this game has so many storylines that when is the last time that you went into a game saying to yourself, oh, I'm not going to be able to get all of the great stuff into this one? Like I know I'm not going to be able. I've got so much stuff that going to be overprepared in a way that's really ridiculous.

[Chris Fowler]

I think you can't be over prepared. You can just overuse your preparation to make a distinction. So I think I believe in being as prepared as possible. But I think that with experience, hopefully you learn a couple things. You don't overuse your preparation. I think that, and there's different levels of that. I think that the stories are so good. Dan and the problem is we've had some of these championship games with teams that play tempo offenses, which is what makes college announcing more challenging than an NFL game. These offenses don't play at frenetic pace. Miami certainly doesn't. So you have an opportunity to get in stories. You got to have three things in mind when you go into these games. What is the great story of Carson back? How can you tell it if you had 30 seconds? How can you tell it if you had one sentence? And how can you tell it if you have five words? Because that's sometimes all you get. Now hopefully you get the, you get the 32nd version because he's got a long story over seven years, just like Chambliss did last year week for Ole Miss. And Indiana's got a lot of stories you could tell too. But you just hope that the game flow allows you to interject something that offers a little texture and context because that is the challenge in college football, to do that with the teams playing as fast as they do sometimes. Hopefully not Monday night.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Chris I often lay in bed watching highlights of the game broadcast because I'm at the game and I wonder do you do that too? Because I sit grinning with my cell phone light reflecting off my face, watching you say, malachi, Tony, still running. Do you watch yourself back? Do you try to listen and pick up on stuff that you did?

[Chris Fowler]

Yeah, but I screen the game back just for preparation anyway. A lot of what I do with preparation is watching games back that we just called because that's obviously Miami's most recent game. I watched the Rose bowl, which we call Evolving Indiana, and yeah, I get excited hearing those calls. I like those moments. It's a tremendous honor. Man, it's so flattering to be part of documenting these big games and have your voice, because that's what the role calls for, laying on top of those highlights. And have fans of a team tell you years down the line that they played your call of Georgia winning or Alabama winning, etc. Over and over again, when they need a boost, when they're in a bad mood, they'll play that play and it's your voice doing it. That's a very cool thing that I don't stop and reflect on often enough. But yeah, it's very flattering. I listen to it myself. It gets a smile sometimes at very critical, too. I mean, if I think I did a subpar job on a game, I want to listen to it back right away because it usually doesn't sound as awkward as it felt.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, you nailed it, though, on Carson Beck with his legs, you know. You know, you went and got that from the net, from the nether region. I felt that. I felt that from. That came in from somewhere in the quads, in the. In the hamstrings, worked its way up.

[Chris Fowler]

Through the soul and it came out. No, I think that you. What you hope, though, seriously, in those moments is that it just happens naturally. You can't predict these people think. Do you script the lines? Of course you can't script the lines. How do I know he's going to run the ball in the end zone? Still running. I mean, that's the last thing you think that's. And that's why I said it that way. The last thing you think is in a decisive moment, Carson Beck, the runner, is going to win the game. And that's what I. That's why it just comes out that way. Because, you know, you could actually see that if you're a Miami fan, you're probably thinking, run, run. Because you saw space. He's still looking over here at the receivers on the right side of the field. He's got a yawning acre of grass over here to run to. And he finally spots it and goes over there and does it. And it kind of. It was a three yard run, I think it seemed like it took 20 seconds to unfold, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Also, though, as bad as Miami has felt over the last 20 years, it's rarely felt as bad as toward the end of that Mississippi game when you're putting your voice on and Miami is completely unraveling. Chris, I know you gotta go. Thank you.

[Chris Fowler]

Hey, man, don't you think fans were thinking the same thing? These personal fouls just don't do that Monday night. I don't like to see bad football. I mean, we just hope for a good game. The same thing all the time. I want both teams to hang in there and come down to the last possession, but I don't want to see his injuries, which we've seen too many of, and bad football. Don't go jack the quarterback up, don't club him in the head because you want to intimidate him and give the other team 15 yards when the other team is Indiana. And we'll say, thank you very much, we're headed to the red zone and the end zone. That's what's going to happen if Miami does that. So don't unravel Monday night either team.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris, good seeing you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Chris Fowler]

Pleasure, man. Always. Dan. Be well.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Football.

[Chris Fowler]

St. This is the Dan lebatar show with.

[Zaslow]

The St.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really, another guest is coming in to predict Miami. Oh, this is early for him. Amin. This is very early for Amin. He got up early to predict Miami. Indiana, what do you have for us mean?

[Amin]

Oh, Dan, what a matchup we have. Miami, of course, had the up and down season, but they always were managing to hold and keep up with their defense. The defense has, has seen them through the whole year. Meanwhile, the guys on the other side, they've got the golden child. He's got a halo. He protects his team from all those untoward allegations. The piety helps, you know, him being, you know, leading with Christ all the time. But give respect. He's one of the very best offensive players we've seen in a very long time. Time. Look, there's a lot of doubters in Miami. The betting lines would confirm that. But I think they're going to surprise a lot of people come Monday night. Having said that, while I do have Miami covering, ultimately I gotta go with the Warriors.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sorry, that's not the game. We were asking heated Warriors Monday night. It's not the game Miami, Golden State about. No, I asked, I, I said Miami, Indiana. You heard me say Miami, Indiana. And then you decided they played last week. You decided to go in a different direction. You, I, I asked you about the college football game and you decided to do basketball and you decided to do a joke and nobody knew what you were talking about before you held up that Warrior sign. A visual joke for an audio audience.

[Amin]

Yeah, I said warriors. First of all, I said it out loud.

[Dan LeBatard]

The visual joker for the visual audience asked you Indiana, Miami. I didn't ask you.

[Amin]

They said what was going to happen in the Miami game Monday night. And I did all of this week.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is how we prepped him.

[Jeremy's Brother]

I thought, am I. Because the Pacers played the Heat last week.

[Amin]

I got binders. You think Chris Fowler is the only one who does research? I got research. I do my job. I can't help it if you guys are vague. Hey, who's going to win the Miami.

[Dan LeBatard]

Game on Monday night?

[Amin]

Well, I'm like, well, surely they're asking me about Warriors.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, thank you, Amin.

Fall off me, coach.

Appreciate your time. Appreciate the contribution. I actually want to ask him a basketball question. Aren't you interested on his John Morant opinion? Because Barry Jackson and, and others. Wendy, they're reporting that a Heat pursuit of John Moran is, quote, highly unlikely. That the Heat Wants the cap space for 2028 when there could be good free agents. Miami has made no offer and it's only a consideration if it's a complete giveaway by the Griffiths Grizzlies and that Memphis might want to even throw in a first like what are we doing there? There's no way that he can be had for free, correct?

[Amin]

I mean, well, I mean, it depends on your definition of free. Was Trae Young acquired for free by Washington?

[Zaslow]

Yes.

[Amin]

Then. Then I think yes, John Rant could absolutely be had for free. If that's, if that's the definition. If we're just talking about a couple of good players and no kind of obligations in terms of draft picks or anything like that, that is pretty much for free. He's under contract. He's got two more years after this. To me, the prioritizing the cap space in 2028, I think what we've seen over the last three or four years in the NBA is free agents don't get the free agents agency. Who's the last free agent that got the free agency? These guys are getting traded before they become free agents and they're signing extensions. And so the idea of like, no, no, no, I've got to preserve all my cap flexibility to be able to go out in the market and sign somebody who's the somebody that's going to be available. If John Morant's available for Terry Rozier and Simone Fontechio, I think you get them and then you figure out everything afterward. I don't think you sit around and be that.

[Dan LeBatard]

It can't be you. Come on.

[Zaslow]

I think it can.

[Dan LeBatard]

It cannot be that.

[Zaslow]

I think it can.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, there' way we're at a place.

[Amin]

Where ja is his contract combined with his, his obviously his kind of attitude issues, whatever you want to call it, and then most importantly, his health. He has not been show. He's not shown the ability to stay on the floor consistently throughout his career. Even when he was playing well, even when they were good. He's still playing around 60 some odd games a year back then. So at this point they're looking at it as I got to get up. What's that 90 million, maybe $120 million of salary off the books just so I can have some breathing room to move things. They got way more than they probably should have for Desmond Bain. I think they can afford to take less for John Moran.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll. Thank you. I mean, appreciate the time. Put it on the poll at Lebatar show. That sounds asinine to me. Can you get John Morant for Terry Rozier and Simone Fontechio? That sounds asinine to me. Like, it sounds like a joke. That sounds like somebody's trying to make a joke.

[Zaslow]

I mean, he's making a huge mess right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jaw Zach Lowe said basically the same thing. He included Casper Siaka Chonas and a pick swap in his theoretical thing that was thrown out there. Even that on its own, you're looking at somewhere in the middle. Because it's a lot of money to commit to a guy who has not been on the floor.

[Zaslow]

I would push back against those reports that the heats are trying to keep salary caps based on for whatever season. That makes no sense. There's literally no such thing in this league anymore, like Amin said, as having salary cap space for free age. That is not the way free agency is every single year. And it's via trade.

[Dan LeBatard]

It would be trading into that cap space for what it's worth. That's the price.

[Zaslow]

That, that's not, that's that's just, it's not the way it works for the most part now. So I, I, I don't buy into.

[Dan LeBatard]

We have to respect the music. Yeah. Not Ja y. Yeah. No Aveling Tony has arrived. Are you outside the Rathscholar?

[Tony]

Yes. Dan Rat Scholar Rat right now. Obviously very much emptied. They're cleaning the tables inside. But I wanted to tickle you here and I wanted to get some of your stories from the Rat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, that's a lot better than the condition that the Rat Scaller I was in was in. Like that. They've put some money into that. In a concrete den. Yeah. I saw Todd Klein throw a hamburger into a guy's tuba who was playing it downstairs. And the tuba made a. It was unbelievable. It was a hamburger. But, but it didn't look anything like that. Like the Rat Scaller is now a beautiful place.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Can Todd Klein enter the transfer portal? We kind of need one next season.

[Dan LeBatard]

He had Mendoza like, accuracy. He threw from the second floor. Todd Klein threw a hamburger and it landed in a tube. And then we heard like the marching band. We heard it like ruined the note. Yeah, it was great.

[Tony]

Is that the only PG one you could tell? You don't have any other rated autograph?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, no, I've got some good ones. Yes. But I don't want to tell those now. And, and you're not. The place always smelled like a terrible afterwards, so I don't know. You're not close enough to smell what the Rat Scaller Smells like after Miami students have got done, gotten done with it, Correct?

[Tony]

No, no, we're still again, this is a school and there's people at college. People paid a very, very, very pretty penny to be here. So there's not really a lot of traffic footwise. So we're still waiting on the Rat Skeletor to open. I think it opens maybe at 10:30 or 11. So maybe I can have a, a nice picture of, of Miller Light here once the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, please do me, do me the favor of taking. Your honor, take us, take us in there because I, I, I remember when I was there on the University of Miami campus 40 years ago, and I was at what was their wreck and exercise center. It was prehistoric. It was was something that would be embarrassing to anybody who thought they, they were walking into a fitness facility. But what it is now is one of the most moneyed places anywhere in south Florida because they've refurbished everything on that campus. So I'm looking at that and I can't believe what the Rat Skeller has become because it was a dungeon.

[Jeremy's Brother]

It's incredible. I, I got my haircut on campus yesterday. They have a fully operational salon.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shout out to all them of, you know, Miami, Miami. The football program is the reason all that money poured into that university, Correct?

[Jeremy's Brother]

Yes, yes. At least initially. You health has done quite all right for itself too, since. Yeah. And real estate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

You help is pretty big.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is okay.

[Jeremy's Brother]

And the CFP run, that's a lot of money. Thank you. Clemson and FSU, we get to keep all of it.

[Dan LeBatard]

$20 million. The last game made $20 million for Miami. Tony's. Now are we gonna stay with Tony as he walks around campus here? It is beautiful. It's beautiful out there. Tony, you got a nice day too. It's cold, but not too cold.

[Jeremy's Brother]

How many dead iguanas or frozen over iguanas right now?

[Tony]

I was gonna say they get thawed out and they're fine. So I'm gonna see, it says, oh, watch out, shaman.

[Chris Fowler]

Go.

[Tony]

Okay, perfect. So it says, sorry, we're closed here at the Rat Skeletor, but it looks like the door is maybe a little ajar that I can maybe peek my head into it and see. Do you want to send Rose in there first?

[Dan LeBatard]

Exactly what I said not to do. Just walking into doors without asking.

[Tony]

Okay, so, so in all transparency, Chris Cody, before I, I do my hit is like, hey buddy, listen, you know what you do to make things great? Don't do that. And I'm like, why? And he's like, well, you know. So you want me to do stuff that makes it great, or do you not want me to do something?

[Dan LeBatard]

I just said Dan's done enough damage for us this week, and I need you to just play cool.

[Chris Fowler]

That's what I said.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'd like to see the inside of the rock.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Stellar, though.

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[Tony]

I'm playing it cool.

[Jeremy's Brother]

When it opens.

[Dan LeBatard]

Clearly says closed on that door right there.

Okay, we'll wait for it.

[Tony]

They open at 11:00am all right, that's fine.

[Jeremy's Brother]

We'll see you in 40 minutes.

[Dan LeBatard]

We'll check in at the beginning of the club. Yeah, we'll check in with you.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you. I pray. Is there anyone there that you want to interview? Anyone there that you want to get seen from, buzz from, energy from, predictions from or.

[Tony]

Yeah, let's see. Let's see. Let's see. There. Looks like there's a guy in a. In a. Some. Some sort of sweater there.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so.

[Chris Fowler]

No.

[Tony]

Interesting. Nah, not really. Okay. Looks like a dork.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, good.

[Tony]

The problem is we're close to the School of music. We're close to the School of music where Sean McGill had his run ins with the University of Miami. And the problem is here, Dan. My school of Music. Kind of dorks. Everybody's got kind of a dork. Everybody's kind of a nerd. They don't really care about the football program. So we have Tony.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's. That's even better. If you're on the, um, campus talking to students about the University of Miami football team.

[Tony]

Talking to dorks.

[Dan LeBatard]

And they still haven't forgiven Todd Klein for throwing a. A hamburger into the tuba of a bandmate. 30 years.

[Tony]

They have a wanted poster. They have a wanted poster of Tom Klein in the Frost music department.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, we'll check back in with you. We will see who you have found over there, and you'll be there for the next hour. Really?

[Chris Fowler]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

This is what you guys are doing? You guys, I've told you to get as many friends of the show as possible, and you've gotten Jeremy's brother. All right, Jeremy.

[Jeremy's Brother]

I love this kid.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, Jeremy's brother. Indiana or Miami? Who do you got?

[Zaslow]

Of course, Dan.

[Chris Fowler]

We're Cuban, baby.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's all about the you. Let's go. Yeah.

Okay.

Dolly.

[Jeremy's Brother]

The greatest of taches.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a little more. He is a more Cuban tache.

[Chris Fowler]

Correct. I love him. No.

[Zaslow]

You want to see my PowerPoint?

[Dan LeBatard]

He did make a whole PowerPoint.

[Jeremy's Brother]

Yeah, I would love to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Beautiful.

[Tony]

All right.

[Zaslow]

The canes are going to win, baby. Of course.

[Dan LeBatard]

Fernando Mendoza, you know what he is?

[Zaslow]

He's a dork, Dan. He's a dork.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what Ruben Bane does to dorks, Dan?

[Zaslow]

He makes them eat bangon binga. And you know how we know this, Dan, man? Because the you is going to win.

[Dan LeBatard]

And because Misa Bu are from Havana, Cuba.

[Zaslow]

Let's go, baby. Electric.

[Jeremy's Brother]

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