The Big Suey: Daddy Broke the Bird Feeder

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode Title: The Big Suey: Daddy Broke the Bird Feeder
Release Date: July 7, 2025

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve deep into a mix of sports analysis, team dynamics, and personal anecdotes. From critiquing the United States' performance in international sports to unraveling the unique camaraderie within the Carolina Panthers, the discussion offers a rich tapestry of insights and humor. The episode culminates with a heartfelt personal story about neighborhood bird feeders, adding a relatable touch to the conversational flow.

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1. U.S. Sports Performance: Tennis and Soccer

Timestamp: [02:04] – [05:03]

Billy Corben kicks off the conversation by addressing his frustrations with the state of American tennis and soccer. Highlighting the lack of male dominance in tennis, Corben laments, “A man hasn't won a major in a half century...” ([03:02]). He contrasts this with the relative success of American women in the sport, citing Coco Gauff's achievements but expressing disappointment over inconsistent performances in major tournaments like Wimbledon.

Shifting to soccer, Corben critiques the U.S. Men's National Team's performance, particularly their inability to secure victories against regional rivals like Mexico under suboptimal conditions. He questions the team's prospects in the upcoming World Cup, stating, “Do they have the team to even survive the group stage and get into the knockout round? Right now, you'd have to say that's very iffy” ([04:19]).

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2. Carolina Panthers' Unique Team Dynamics

Timestamp: [05:21] – [16:04]

The discussion takes a fascinating turn as Stugotz brings up the Carolina Panthers, drawing parallels to previous basketball dynasties like the Miami Heat's "Big Three." Corben and Cody explore how the Panthers have managed to sustain a cohesive unit beyond the typical four-year contracts seen in other sports leagues.

Corben remarks, “I think the proof is in the results,” highlighting the Panthers' exceptional ability to maintain strong interpersonal relationships and familial bonds within the team ([07:48]). He contrasts this with the Miami Heat's eventual fallout, noting, “It ended ugly for that Big Three era” ([07:55]).

Greg Cody adds, “Why doesn't it happen more?” questioning why other leagues, particularly the NBA, struggle to replicate the Panthers' success in fostering long-term team unity despite lucrative contracts. The hosts speculate on potential factors, including the financial structures of different sports and the personal priorities of the athletes.

Dan Le Batard pushes the conversation further by hypothesizing about the Panthers' contract structures, pondering if behind-the-scenes financial maneuvers are at play to keep players together without breaching salary caps. He provocatively asks, “What is to stop a team owner from just setting up offshore accounts for players?” ([16:04]).

Stugotz counters by emphasizing the importance of genuine relationships over financial incentives, stating, “They truly are a family situation. It's the exception, not the rule” ([08:50]).

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3. Speculations on Player Contracts and Salary Caps

Timestamp: [16:04] – [19:22]

The conversation intensifies as the hosts delve into the intricacies of player contracts and the potential for unconventional financial arrangements within sports teams. Dan Le Batard speculates about the possibility of teams manipulating contracts to offer extended deals without impacting salary caps, questioning, “What is to stop a team owner from just setting up offshore accounts for players?” ([16:04]).

Stugotz maintains a cautious stance, reinforcing that such actions would be unethical and against the rules, referencing past scandals like Mark Cuban’s punishment for housing Dennis Rodman ([18:37]).

Corben emphasizes the Panthers' unique approach, noting that unlike high-earning NBA players who are often unwilling to take salary discounts, Panthers players seem more flexible, valuing team success and camaraderie over individual financial gain ([09:36]-[09:53]).

This segment highlights the delicate balance between financial incentives and personal relationships in fostering long-term team cohesion.

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4. Personal Anecdote: The Bird Feeder Fiasco

Timestamp: [22:48] – [34:32]

Shifting gears, Stugotz introduces a personal story shared by Dan Le Batard about an unexpected conflict arising from bird feeders in his neighborhood.

Dan Le Batard recounts how his family's simple bird feeder attracted not only various bird species but also unwanted pests like rats. “We had a very large, heavy bird that we would hear making a lot of noise, and it had a long tail, and it was a rat” ([28:16]). This situation led him to remove the bird feeder to prevent further issues, inadvertently disappointing his children who had named the birds after beloved Disney characters.

He humorously expresses his frustration: “I don't know what to do because I don't want to get in a bird feeder battle with them” ([28:16]). Stugotz empathetically responds, probing whether the type of bird food used contributed to the problem, and they discuss potential solutions to attract birds without inviting pests.

Notable Quote:
Dan Le Batard: “What you need to see for them to see the birds. And it'd be like a nice, magical Disney movie. She goes, oh, Mickey's coming. Minnie's coming. But they haven't” ([31:02]).

This heartfelt anecdote adds a relatable layer to the episode, showcasing the hosts' ability to blend personal stories with broader discussions.

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5. Sports News: NBA Trades and Team Moves

Timestamp: [35:58] – [40:18]

Returning to sports, the hosts briefly cover recent NBA news, including a significant trade involving the Miami Heat, Los Angeles Clippers, and Utah Jazz. Dan Le Batard announces, “the Clippers Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade that sends Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Los Angeles and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a 2027 Clippers second-round pick to the Jazz” ([39:22]).

Stugotz and Cody discuss the implications of the trade, debating the value of the players involved and the potential impact on the Miami Heat's roster. They express skepticism about Norman Powell's status, with Stugotz noting, “He's a good player. He's not an all-star” ([40:16]), while Cody speculates about the team's strategic moves post-trade.

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Conclusion

Throughout this episode, The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully balances in-depth sports analysis with personal storytelling. From dissecting the challenges faced by American athletes on the global stage to celebrating the rare unity within the Carolina Panthers, the hosts provide listeners with thoughtful insights and entertaining banter. Dan's personal tale about the bird feeder serves as a charming interlude, reinforcing the show's signature blend of humor and heart. Whether you're a sports aficionado or a casual listener, this episode offers a comprehensive and engaging experience.

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Notable Quotes:

• Billy Corben: “A man hasn't won a major in a half century...” ([03:02])
• Dan Le Batard: “What is to stop a team owner from just setting up offshore accounts for players?” ([16:04])
• Stugotz: “They truly are a family situation. It's the exception, not the rule” ([08:50])
• Dan Le Batard: “What you need to see for them to see the birds. And it'd be like a nice, magical Disney movie. She goes, oh, Mickey's coming. Minnie's coming. But they haven't” ([31:02])

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Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments were omitted to focus on the core discussions and narratives of the episode.

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

The other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Stugotz]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've done it.

[Chris Cody]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Stugotz]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan LeBatard]

After 10 minutes off, it's your phone.

[Stugotz]

What do you mean? For what?

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what?

[Billy Corben]

Had you not banished me to the room there, I would never have turned on my phone to catch up with. I'm a very busy man, but I wait until I'm sent to the penalty box to turn off on my phone. So had you not penalized me, I.

[Stugotz]

Penalized you because you just said it's a glorious thing, the mangrove, right?

[Billy Corben]

And then it's a thicket. It's beautiful. There was a swing in it.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show. What do Americans stink at? More tennis or soccer? At LeBatard show. Do you have either opinions on either of these things?

[Billy Corben]

Yes, I have opinions on both. Tennis. Look, I was raised by Jimmy Connors and McEnroe, right? Hold on a second, Chris.

[Stugotz]

Ever we should say the Women are good, but go ahead. Here, We'll. We'll give you the floor here. Go ahead.

[Billy Corben]

The women are better than the men today. I'll get. I'll give you that. But who's the name? And after that, there was Pete Sampras. Who's the. And Andrea Agassi. Okay, who's the next. Nobody's coming along. I know there's somebody's ranked number 10. Big deal. Nobody's coming along. A man hasn't won a major. An American man hasn't won a major in a half century, in a quarter of a century, since. Since around 2000, I think it was. I don't have the stats right in front of me.

[Stugotz]

Your glasses are fogging up.

[Billy Corben]

I know. That's because I'm klemped about the state of American tennis. It's ridiculous. The women's are. The women are a bit better. I'm a big fan of Coco Golf, but Coco, even her, you know, she wins the French Open, and it's like, all right, all right. And then she takes a crap in the. In the first round of Wimbledon. All right, so I'm frustrated by women's men's tennis, the state of American tennis, because, as you know, I'm a tennis fan. That was one of my favorite sports. That's the sport that I played. That was my exercise when I was a little younger, in my 20s and 30s, particularly now, I just can't watch tennis anymore because I don't see the American domination or representation even. And soccer is a little bit frustrating. You know, I don't fault the U.S. men's National Team for not beating Mexico in the Gold Cup Final because they were playing with the B team. Okay? They were missing a handful of starters, including Christian Pulisic. They did not have their A team. But it does make you wonder how they're going to do in the World cup in less than a year. Do they have the team to even survive the group stage and get into the knockout round? Right now, you'd have to say that's very iffy.

[Stugotz]

What do you make of their coach saying, the lessons from that loss are priceless? Like, I just think it's a loss. Well, like, what is. What. What are the lessons? What do. What are you learning?

[Billy Corben]

It's hard to learn anything when you don't have your full team. And I didn't like the fact that he's complaining about the officiating, the referees after the game. You know, if you're looking for an excuse, you have a good one. You didn't have a handful of your best players. That's your excuse, not the officiating. The other thing is the game is played in the United States. It's a pro Mexican crowd. That's not ideal. If you're the American coach, you'd like to have home field advantage there. But yeah, they just continue to disappoint. They disappointed in the Nations League a few months ago and now they're disappointed in the.

[Stugotz]

That's going to happen in Houston, though. You're going to get Mexico. Mexico travels well and that's. It's not surprising that they would be feeling like they're playing on the road in their own country.

[Billy Corben]

That's exactly right. If it were St. Louis, it would have been more of a Pro American crowd. 100%. Right.

[Stugotz]

But priceless. The lesson, I don't get that.

[Billy Corben]

I think that's coach speak, right? Like, you have to, you have to learn. And the Panthers always say this as a mantra, that you learn more from your defeats than you do from your victories.

[Stugotz]

Well, I want to ask about the Panthers for a second because I do remember 15 years ago going on a free agent summit show with Tony Kornheiser, Bill Simmons and Mike Wilbon, and we were just fooling around at the beginning of, like, transactions are going to become a thing. And they were all making fun of me as I just kept arguing on behalf of why wouldn't LeBron, Dwayne and Chris Bosh, if they're really friends, why wouldn't they just go into business together right now and decide that their friendship was gonna be something that they could navigate all the business in? In basketball, over four year runs in Golden State and in Miami, these things do blow up and get so pressurized that the friendships don't work with the money. But you just mentioned the Panthers and last week Mike mentioned, and other people have mentioned this, that these guys are like vacationing together with their families and stuff. And it's just clear they're having the time of their lives with their friends. And so I don't know what behind the scenes is going on with, ah, I'll take 6 million, you take 7 million, he'll take 8 million. It's all like, we'll figure it all out. We like being together. Let's just keep this running forever. Where the relationship seemed to be real. I'm curious what's happening here because these things can be romanticized, but it does seem to be happening. Golden State and Miami ended up breaking apart because of whatever the difficulties are in managing all the Money and egos around, everyone taking discounts. But there's no disputing that. Everyone's saying of these Panthers that these guys enjoy their company, each other's company, in a way that's now showing in contracts. They're going for six and eight years to older players because the ownership is intent on keeping whatever that is together. But it's been my experience over the last 15 years that breaks up after four years. Like, the money gets complicated, the pressure gets complicated, and the disease of me sets in where people don't actually wanna share. But what if you're really friends? Like, what if you're really legitimately having the time of your life with your new best friends? Then what difference does the money make once you're in a stratosphere of millions and millions of guaranteed dollars for many, multiple years?

[Billy Corben]

I couldn't agree more. But I think it's what the Panthers have managed to do, create that. It's beyond camaraderie. It truly is a friendship in a family situation. It sounds corny to hear it. It sounds unbelievable when they say it, but I think the proof is in the results. The exception is that I think the rule is what happened to the Heat, where, when they first came together and LeBron, that night is going, we're going to win not one, not two, not three, etc. Championships. He meant that they all thought they were going to stay together and be a dynasty. They stay together more than four years. Looking back on that, it ended ugly for. For that. For the Big Three era. It ended ugly. It wasn't pretty. And. And right now, the. The Panthers are in the middle of all that, and. And there's no sign of it ending. And it's an extraordinary thing that they've done. And, and you said the families, the. The wives all get together. The families vacation together after the season. It's an extraordinary thing. It's. It's. I'm not saying it's unique in sports, but it's the exception, not the rule.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, it's pretty unique. And I. I don't know why it's happening with this Panther team right now as opposed to why it never happened, say, in the NBA, because these guys, you know, guys like Ekblad, who are taking six and a half million a year when, if he hit free agency, probably could have gotten what he was making before. And the difference, when you're making six and a half million between one or two million per year is a pretty massive difference. And then you got guys like LeBron who. It's like, like, like, can you take a little bit less than 52 million? What if you take 42 million? No, no, no, I can't. Like, I don't know why the NBA player can't do that. And these Panthers, they, they have no issue with valuing the winning, the camaraderie and the lifestyle. I don't understand why it doesn't happen more.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I think at the beginning of the Heat, there was some of that. Right. Didn't Dwyane Wade take less money?

[Stugotz]

No, they all did. And look, I know that look. This sounds, over the course of the last hour and a half, like, we are just sitting here, especially Cody, pining romantically for the way things used to be. When a guy would take a discount just to stay with his home team. I'm not telling anyone to take discounts. I'm just a bit startled that all of the Panthers are coming back. All of them are voicing the same thing. They're getting all their players to stay when in free agency. The reason a million years ago that the Steelers won multiple championships with Terry Bradshaw is because they, the same 22 starters kept coming back year after year. They never left in free agency. Free agency changed the ability to have legitimate dynasties because everybody wants to get paid. Them retaining everybody when people expected them to lose. These people, they didn't even hit free agency when they're already the deepest team in the league. There's something unusual happening there that I, I'm, I'm remembering what I told you about 15 years ago where we were on the radio in Miami Argu for the better part of a year, if you're legitimately friends and you can get together and just dominate your sport, wouldn't you really want to do that most with your closest friends? Now you start getting the families involved where the kids know each other and the wives know each other and everyone takes a discount. And now all the management is getting praised for. The guys really like being around each other and are doing this thing that in basketball, for whatever the reasons, has been hard to keep these things together beyond the four years.

[Chris Cody]

So why doesn't it happen? I mean, like, I'm genuinely asking why. Why don't you see the hockey guys, they're making 6, 7 million dollars a year taking discounts, and the NBA player can't take a discount from making 45, 50 million a season. Like, why can't they do it if it means playing with your friends and it could result in winning? Like, I, I'm asking why they can't do It.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know if I was offered $50 million and sounds like you want to take 40, be like, now I'm good with 50, thank you, but.

[Chris Cody]

So why doesn't the hockey player have that attitude?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know. I don't understand.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe I'm asking the question backwards.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't understand why they like each other. Like, you know what? Let's keep this going. Let's not make. Because hockey players like to what you're saying, they're going from like 8 million to 6 million, which is like a quarter of their salary. Huge over six years. Hockey players don't make basketball, baseball, football money. Could it be that hockey hurts and quality of life? Like, I like it down here. When I was in Ottawa, that sucked. Like, could it just be like, maybe it's such a painful sport that they value my time off the ice. I want to be at the beach.

[Billy Corben]

I think that's part of it. I mean, look at the Panthers. They're celebrating. They're working in a place where people save all year to come on vacation. They're celebrating on the beach, bringing the trophy into the Atlantic Ocean. That's a pretty good place to live and to work.

[Chris Cody]

Not many teams are showing up to the practice facility in sandals.

[Billy Corben]

That's right. Yeah. And also, you know, in the case of Aaron Eckbad, I really believe that their pitch to him was, we want you as a. As a lifelong career long Panther. There's a job waiting for you after you retire. You're going to always be a part of this club, a face of this club. And I think that the only thing bigger than money in sports is, is the assurance of winning. Okay. Can you imagine being a free agent in the NHL right now? You've played 10 years. You've never won. Just use Connor McDavid as just a totally random example. You played 10, 11 years. You've never won a Stanley Cup. You have a chance to meld into this dynasty that they have right now in South Florida. Might be a good way to go.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, he's going to pass up $10 million because he'll have a lifelong desk job after this as part of the beloved Panthers front office forever. Like, I'll take the $10 million now, please.

[Chris Cody]

Like, why? Why? A player who just signed the last contract of his career in Brad Marchand, who has been on this team and in that dressing room with those players only for a few months, has decided, yeah, you know what? I'm in. Like, this is what I want the rest of My career to be. I want to be around these guys. And doesn't even bother hitting free agency.

[Stugotz]

Wasn' being reported that Boston was going to try and get him back, so.

[Chris Cody]

Somebody was going to offer him a lot more money than the Panthers just gave him. And he didn't. He didn't even wait to see what the offers were.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, but. But he won his only Stanley cup prior at age 23. Right. He thought it was going to happen every year. This is great. This is easy. Probably took it for granted. Goes his whole career without another Stanley Cup. He experiences what it was like this time and he's like, yep, I want that again. I want that feeling again. Winning equals money. Or close to it.

[Stugotz]

Hockey. Hockey can keep some cores together. But the part that I'm saying is super unusual is the kinship seems to be blossoming into something that is making guys sign before they even test free agency. Guys we thought were leaving, guys that we assumed they would not be able to afford. It was just a natural assumption to make. Billy, I know you've got the face. Something's going on is all you're offering to this conversation.

[Dan LeBatard]

I can't. All right, well, I have theories, but I can't go public with those.

[Stugotz]

Well, but all you're giving me is something's going on.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, it doesn't. All of a sudden no one likes money. I don't understand this. Like these people want. Oh, you know what? I want to go into this sport where they're beating me and I'm going to feel it for the rest of my life. And I have the opportunity to make generational wealth that, you know, generations from now, obviously it's generational wealth. Can benefit from it. But I'm just going to turn down 25% of that because I like going to the beach. Get out of here. But something's up here. Something's up here.

[Stugotz]

What if I were to tell you it's love?

[Dan LeBatard]

No state tax.

[Stugotz]

Love is in the air.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bank accounts.

[Billy Corben]

It's love. And eight year contracts is not just a salary. It's the length of contract. You don't see many eight year contracts offered, particularly in hockey. You do. Well, not so much for players Marshawn's age.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's.

[Stugotz]

That's true. But that's not an eight year deal. That's six years.

[Dan LeBatard]

Didn't they explain to us last week that something happened with like the CBA or whatever where after a certain point he'll get the money and it doesn't count against the cap, so it could just Be fun with numbers, right? I mean, look, I'm the last person here that knows about NHL CBA deals, so I don't know how this money works, but it seems as though there's something going on there. Roy, maybe you could tell us where he can get the money. And if he retires early, it doesn't work against Roy.

[Stugotz]

You can tell us. But I believe that almost uniformly the person who knows the least and begins with, look, I don't know anything here is exactly the person who also says something fishy is going on here. Like it's the person.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm just saying, what is this? What is to stop, hypothetically? I'm not saying I. For the record, very clearly, I am not saying that this is going on or would ever go on or happens anywhere or should happen anywhere. I am not accusing anyone of anything, for the record. But what is to stop? What is to stop a team owner or management team from just setting up offshore accounts for players that then have access to said monies and can stay under salary caps in different sports?

[Stugotz]

So commit crimes?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not saying it's not taxable money. I'm not saying that that happened. I'm not saying it should happen. I'm not saying anyone is doing that. I'm just saying if said accounts do exist, do you think it's impossible to think that that's ever happened? Or why a team hasn't thought of doing a situation where, you know what, like, here's this little paper that like, you know, the Jason Bourne's of the world have. And then you go and you type it into a computer and there's $400 million, right? And no one knows that that money's there. And none of the commissioners are going to know anything, but. And then all of a sudden someone's like, you know, you want to offer me $14 million more? No, I want to stay here to go to the beach. I'm not saying that happened. I never would say that. But what's to stop something like that from happening?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, Criminal laws.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not criminal laws.

[Stugotz]

Rules in your sport.

[Dan LeBatard]

Rules in your sport are not real laws. Who cares about rules? All of a sudden we think athletes are following the rules in your sports. Wake up, Jackson. That's not what's going on here. Ever heard of Pete Rose? Ever heard of Barry Bonds? Rules in your sport, huh? You sound silly again.

[Stugotz]

The government tracks major transactions of different. Different country shadow accounts. Yeah, I'm talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you ever heard of Swiss bank accounts? Have you ever heard of The Caribbean.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I've heard of both of those things.

[Dan LeBatard]

Accounts weren't the Marlins registered at a P.O. box.

[Stugotz]

They were.

[Dan LeBatard]

That. Andy Slater tracked them down.

[Stugotz]

Yes. I will also say that Mark Cuban was punished because for a while, Dennis Rodman was living in his home. And that was against salary cap rules to offer Dennis Rodman lodging.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm a house in Switzerland. Good.

[Stugotz]

So what your. What you're alleging is I very clear.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not alleging anything on the front end. So you couldn't spin this. I know your next step before you can think it.

[Stugotz]

That's.

[Dan LeBatard]

I knew that's where you were going on this, and I said on the front. And that's not what I'm alleging. But what is to stop a team owner from doing such a thing? I'm asking the question.

[Stugotz]

Okay. Thank you for asking it so vigorously.

[Billy Corben]

That's fair. Billy's just saying. Were I alleging that?

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't say were I. I just said, what if someone were to. Oh, I'm not.

[Billy Corben]

That's different.

[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Of course I do.

[Greg Cody]

I make it Miller time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course.

[Greg Cody]

That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there, and I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down, and then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother, does that first sip.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.

[Greg Cody]

I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller life.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just thinking about it, it's making me happy.

[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Cody]

That was a long story.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's the only kind he tells.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys.

[Greg Cody]

You forgot about the league's cup Stugarts.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlin celebration because it was Levon.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Don Levatar show with it stugats.

[Stugotz]

If we go back for a second to the United States losing with its backups against mexic Mexico, what do you make of Chris Richard saying after the game one of the defenders that the refs, quote, hate them and that in any other league it would have been called offsides. But again, that's CONCACAF for you. They hate us. End quote.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know. I saw the replay look like he was on side. Am I wrong?

[Stugotz]

CONCACAF for you. They hate us.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, the.

[Stugotz]

You were lamenting the idea of complaining about the refereeing.

[Billy Corben]

Nobody wants. Nobody wants to hear the losing player say it's. It was the officiating. Everybody hates us. You know what the US Problem is? That they didn't have their best players on the field. And Pulisic on vacation sends out a photo of him on a beach somewhere while the Gold cup is going on. And he rightly got so vilified and criticized for that social media post that he might never live it down. The problem is the system, okay?

[Stugotz]

And that's not accurate.

[Billy Corben]

Okay?

[Dan LeBatard]

They win the World Cup.

[Stugotz]

Remember that photopolistic set out? You think he might never live that down?

[Billy Corben]

It depends on what he does from here. Okay, wait a minute.

[Stugotz]

You're willing to give him a legacy.

[Billy Corben]

Stain for he put his rest and relaxation above the national team. Okay? This is. This wasn't just a world. A Gold cup, which is a big regional tournament. This was a prelude to the World cup in less than a year. They need their team together.

[Stugotz]

But it was just the Gold Cup. It was just.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, that's a, that's a big regional tournament.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but, but, but wait a minute.

[Billy Corben]

And a big regional tournament. It's a prep tournament for the World Cup. What about that don't you understand? The coach himself said this is not the way to run a national team program.

[Stugotz]

It's not that I don't understand. I'm just objecting to the hyperbole of. He will never live this down. He will never live out. Live down a photo sent out during the Gold cup because Mexico scored in the 77th minute.

[Billy Corben]

Okay? You don't know the reaction to that social media post. It hit an off key. It was, I'm not star of the team putting himself and his rest and relaxation above his national team. That done by a comparable player in Spain or Germany or Brazil would have been a national scandal. It wasn't here because soccer in America is still not that big.

[Greg Cody]

Keep in mind that the United States.

[Dan LeBatard]

Canada and Mexico are hosting the World Cup.

[Greg Cody]

So they're automatically in.

[Billy Corben]

Yes, yes. But because they're the host nation, the onus is on the US to at.

[Stugotz]

Least just a regional tournament. It's the Gold cup and Mexico always wins it or the US Always wins.

[Billy Corben]

It, because Roy and I are talking about the World Cup. Now let's move on. Those three nations are hosting the World cup, not the Gold Cup. And now there is pressure for the US to at least get out of the group stage in the World Cup. Will they do it? Who knows?

[Stugotz]

You are a bucking bronco of sports opinion today. And I appreciate you coming out of the gate roaring today. You seem tired, you seem a little winded from the amount that you've been carrying, going. Okay, You've been giving very strong, strong sports opinion. And you had that one moment where all of a sudden you had a softball having to whistle Yankee Doodle Dandy and you lost yourself in the thicket of mangroves. But you're back now. Billy, can. Can you please tell me what the update is with you and your neighbors and general feuding that is going on with your neighbors?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know. The few. Okay. For a few to exist, I think two parties have to be involved. Not me in my mind. So, like, they're not actual feuds. They're just. I get upset about certain things and. And my back door neighbors really been a thorn in my side as of late for a number of reasons. But the latest is they have bird feeders now behind me, which was fine, but they're like these fancy bird feeders and I'm okay with birds. We had a bird feeder for my daughter. So we would see and then little birds would come over. There was a cardinal that would come, Blue J would come. We gave them names, of course, as children do. The kids, the birds names were Mickey and Minnie and then Daisy was one of the birds because that's what kids, at least my experience name everything after like Disney characters or themselves. Like everything that that my daughter like sees. Like, oh, what's this doll's name? And it's just her name. Like that's what, that's what they name. They know like four names, so they name everything those names. Now that my neighbor has these fancy bird feeders back there, the birds have stopped coming over to visit my children because I guess we don't have as good Food. They got the Cadillac, and we don't have, like, nice. The nice bird feeders. So we've lost the birds now. And I don't know what to do because I don't want to get in a bird feeder battle with them and build some sort of elaborate bird feeder. But I also don't want to tell my children, hey, you know, this is how life works. The birds don't love us anymore. We're not giving them the fancy things.

[Stugotz]

Well, what were you giving them? What kinds of foods were you giving them? Were you going bird food? And it's just not as tempting anymore because the name put out a better situation.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, okay, so we have one of those, like, clear plastic bird feeders that suction cupped onto the window so that you can see the birds when they come and they eat the food. And then we had an incident where there's a lot of vegetation in my neighborhood. And with vegetation, you get, you know, animals. So, you know, it's not rare to see different types of animals running around. There's foxes sometimes that are there. We'll get, like, squirrels. We'll get raccoons. We have iguanas. You know, we'll get, like, armadillos. Every once in a while, we have to startle the birds. Next time they're gathered at their bird feeder, we gotta do something to startle them so that they don't want to go back to that bird feeder. Well, what happened with our bird feeder is we had a very large, heavy bird that we would hear making a lot of noise, and it had a long tail, and it was a rat. So we're like, okay, okay, well, now we need to get rid of this bird feeder because I don't want rats anywhere near my house because they're coming to steal the bird food. So I asked Ron McGill what I should do, and then I asked the Internet what I should do. And the Internet said if you put pepper, that scares off the rats, but it doesn't harm the birds, the birds can digest the pepper. But we didn't do it for a while. I ended up getting rid of the bird feeder. We got a new bird feeder so we could get the birds. What kind of pepper? Black pepper? Crack red. There's different types that they say to use, but I only had, like, the regular black pepper. So I set up a new birdhouse. I put the pepper in it, and no birds have. Have come so far.

[Stugotz]

That's always sad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll. At Levitard show, do kids Name everything after Disney characters or themselves. And also put on the poll at LeBatard show. Is it very sad to put out a bird feeder and not get a single bird?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, the first time it happened, that's what happened. And then like two weeks in, eventually the birds came. So I'm like, I know this is like something that we have to be patient with, but also this time there's pepper in there so that we don't get rats. Right? So then after like two weeks, we move the bird feeder to a different window. And now it's. It's in the backyard where now the luxury hotel bird feeders are in the neighbor's yard that are multi levels. There's different type of seeds. I don't blame my wife, but I think she got the wrong bird food this time. But something's going on that the birds aren't coming. And I think it's because my neighbor is like, outdoing us with the bird feeder, which, honestly, if you're an adult with bird feeders, leave it for the children. There's children here that want to see the birds. What do you need to see the birds for?

[Stugotz]

So you're basically putting this on your window because you like the idea of your kids seeing birds swoop in and land from on and not get confused by the clear glass and just land right there as if they're flying into your child's life like a cartoon. And that's why you put it on the window.

[Dan LeBatard]

They like birds. What do you want me to tell you? They'll learn to hate birds. That's what happens when you get older is you start not trusting birds and thinking birds will attack you. And then you end up disliking birds like they're there. And we're trying to get the birds to see that for them to see the birds. And it'd be like a nice, magical Disney movie. She goes, oh, Mickey's coming. Minnie's coming. But they haven't. They haven't been coming. That's. I haven't even told you about the other neighbor. That's not my neighbor. It's a guy that walks the dog. And I haven't pinned down where he lives yet, but if I do, then there's trouble. I know that this guy walks around smoking a cigar at odd hours of the night, has this dog tobacco in there. Then all of a sudden, there's always poop on my. My yard, and I know that it's him. I haven't been able to prove it yet, but I thought about Buying a deer cam so that I could get it and catch him on camera. Put it in one of the trees, and then take a picture, print out a picture, and then say, hey, stop having your dog poop on my lawn.

[Stugotz]

I have a lot of questions here. Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show, do you hate or distrust birds more as you get older? But. So you wanted to bring Disney to your impressionable young children, and instead a rat horrifies the children and now the birds no longer come around.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, we. I mean, we did. We. I don't know how we explain the rat situation. I think we're like, that's not supposed to be there eating that bird food. But we took it down because I didn't want a rat.

[Stugotz]

Understood.

[Dan LeBatard]

Imagine you open the window. There's a bird feeder there. It's clear, and you just see a rat right up against your window eating the bird food.

[Stugotz]

I'm just saying that I, if I were you, would take that rejection and that failure a little bit personally. If I were you.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I'm not saying it was over successful, I attracted not only birds, but other species of animals as well. Wanted to eat from my trough.

[Stugotz]

The failure is that you're feuding with your mind because your neighbor is better at attracting the birds now than you are, and you've got a pathetic bird feeder that you filled with the greatest of delights.

[Dan LeBatard]

And keep in mind, this is different bird food than I got the last time. My wife got this one. And I don't look. Here's the trick. You look to see what kind of birds are in your neighborhood, and then they sell specific food for those birds. It's a cheat code, really, but it's kind of like if Zaz is my neighbor and I know Zaz likes hamburgers and wants Zaz to come visit me. Yeah. Then I put hamburgers in my windows, so like a pie, you know? And then Zaz sniffs the hamburger and then comes floating over. You put exactly what they're. If it's cardinals that are there, you get the food that the cardinals like. If it's blue jays, you get the blue jays food. She got specific just for cardinals, which now the blue jays don't want to come and eat. It's crazy.

[Stugotz]

Okay, so perhaps it's not the greatest of delights because your wife has failed. What I'm saying as to why it is you should take this personally, is because those animals have to hunt in order to find food, you're putting out a smorgasbord you're putting out an amount of food for free that they can just have. And they're saying, nope, that's the house with rats. That's. That's the house.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't. My house doesn't have rats, to be clear.

[Stugotz]

But that.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's a rat. There's lush vegetation.

[Stugotz]

You think there was just one?

[Dan LeBatard]

They also don't normally pay for their food. Yeah, that would be funny if they did.

[Stugotz]

Well, they have to hunt for it. They have to find it. It's not out there for free. It's not.

[Chris Cody]

It's not a free.

[Stugotz]

It's.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, it's just. They have to find it.

[Stugotz]

Well, they have to work for it. They're not. It's. It's not every day you can show up and, And. And the wife has put out the wrong food.

[Dan LeBatard]

We don't know that for a fact. Just a working theory. You said it twice. You know what I saw this weekend?

[Stugotz]

It seems like you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I can say not you guys. I have to stand up and defend her honor. How dare you guys insinuate my wife does not hunt a shop for bird food.

[Greg Cody]

I'm sorry.

[Dan LeBatard]

You sons of bees.

[Stugotz]

You did that. You. You kept saying that. Otherwise I wouldn't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what I saw this weekend in the realm of animals and eating food? I saw a dolphin in. In right down here. We came over because my. My wife had family in town, so we're doing like touristy things. And we were here by the museums and we saw a dolphin just swimming in the bay. And I had never seen this or considered it. The dolphin was jumping out of the water with a giant fish in its mouth and then would let the fish go. And the fish wasn't dead. The fish was still living. Would swim away a little bit and then it catcher it again and jump back out with the fi. It was playing fetch with itself with a live fish. And then eventually it. See, eventually it. It sounds awesome, but I imagine it was very traumatic for that fish. Like, I. I don't know. It was the same fish. What are the chances? Well, it was the same size, roughly. Would. It would come up. It was going like in a line. It would do it. And there was people watching. And I was trying to figure out is this. Is this dolphin putting on a show for, like the spectators and what is the end game? Because the fish seemed too big for the dolphin to eat, which maybe what was happening is it was trying to eat and it was too big. Eventually it got away because the dolphin disappeared for a little bit. And then came back up without the fish. So I think that the fish got a fast one. But I had never thought about what dolphins eat in terms of hunting and if they, like, entertain themselves by catching. I'm going to ask Ron McGill the next time he's on about this. It was playing catch with itself with a live fish.

[Stugotz]

What would be your guesses here? Because that's a good guess. That the fish was too big. I do think that animals do play with their food sometimes. Again, why it's so insulting that you're putting it out for free for birds. And they don't want the free food that you're giving them to even play with. Like, they don't want it. They don't want to be near it. Because there was a rat there recently.

[Dan LeBatard]

We took the bird feeder down because of the rat. We had to figure out a solution. And then if I'm going to be honest, what happened is daddy accidentally broke the first bird feeder. So then we had to track down a new bird feeder. But I was trying to be, like, conscious of the cost of said bird feeder because the first one was, like, $5 at Target in, like, that section when you walk in. And then those things, you have basically have to get them when you see them. If not, they disappear forever. So then $5 bird feeders are out the window. And I don't want to pay $30 for a bird feeder. Did you check it? With my money, I'm not Aaron Ekblad.

[Stugotz]

Did you say that you. That you did other tourist things this weekend?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, we went on a boat. Just. It was a touristy weekend when people come take them on touristy things. So you want to see Miami, So you go Star island, by the way. By the way, it was crazy to me. So we're on a boat. I'm not gonna tell you which boat, because I don't want to dissuade people from going on the boats to take you around Star island and stuff like that. 90 minute. If you. If you can't buy it on Groupon, it's like half the price. So we go, we get that. We go and we try to negotiate with the guy. So we go on it. The guy's just following a script that he has memorized. He's doing it in English, and then right after in Spanish over and over again. And then we get to the area of Star island where you wonder, is this gonna be on the tour still? And in case you're wondering, yes, they still tell you where Diddy's house is. On the Star Island.

[Stugotz]

Oh, so they were still there.

[Dan LeBatard]

They tried. They tried his house and then he kept going. Like. All right, quick turn. We're going to keep going. But yeah, they showed us Diddy's house for some reason, which seemed like a crazy decision by me because they could have just said anything. Those houses, they could tell you anyone lives there, right? What do you know? Why would you. Why would you go out of your way and tell us that's where Diddy lives?

[Billy Corben]

Was there a for sale sign on his lawn?

[Dan LeBatard]

There was not.

[Billy Corben]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love when it's like, like the owner of like a random company.

[Chris Cody]

Minor penalty, two minutes for adding nothing.

[Dan LeBatard]

That right there is the owner of Kellogg's. Dude, no. The Viagra guy is living large. No pun intended. That guy?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

That house. Crazy.

[Stugotz]

So that. That one. That one is. Life is cruel when you read that Viagra medication is just a total accident. They were just fiddling around with heart medication and then they stumbled on Viagra.

[Dan LeBatard]

By fiddling around with something else.

[Billy Corben]

How's your uncle?

[Stugotz]

And gives you a hard on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why are you still here? That is what it does. Oh, yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Why am I still here? You're right.

[Stugotz]

Roy, you gotta let that sit. Roy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm sorry.

[Stugotz]

Roy, you gotta let that sit.

[Greg Cody]

I gave it a couple of seconds.

[Stugotz]

Roy, come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Major penalty. Five minutes. Grooming, comedy.

[Billy Corben]

Five minutes. You gotta let that sit, Roy.

[Stugotz]

You gotta let it sit. You gotta go.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

You can't leave fast enough. I wanted to stare at him for nine straight minutes in the silence. And that's when you ran into the breach. Your dad's lack of subtlety there was excruciating. The chair, excruciating. Billy's hiding behind his computer trying to hide from the shame of Greg Cody. Just blurting the phrase breaking news.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're getting to the Sounder. Per Shams Charania, the Clippers Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade that sends Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Los Angeles and Kevin Love. Kyle Anderson and a 2027 Clippers second round pick to the Jazz. So Norman Powell is added to the Miami Heat, I believe. An all star last year, I believe. Look that up.

[Stugotz]

Bradley Beal was. The reports today for the Miami Heat as they go into the buyout bin and the discount bin and the Norman Powell bin.

[Dan LeBatard]

So is Barry right? Jeremy just said twice off mic. That is a great pickup.

[Stugotz]

He's a good player. He's a really good player.

[Dan LeBatard]

For Kyle Anderson, a second round pick and Kevin Love, who didn't play.

[Stugotz]

It hurts. The Clippers as well. He was valuable for them.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not an all star last year. Borderline.

[Stugotz]

He's a good player. He's not an all star.

[Chris Cody]

Honestly, the part about that trade that I like also is it clears a roster spot. Like maybe this would be another guy they get to.

[Stugotz]

You're going to assume that they're going to be doing something, but when they're shopping in the Bradley Beal discount bin, and that's what you're hearing about today, trying to talk yourself into whatever it is you were trying to talk yourself into, Andrew Wiggins would be that it's not very exciting.

[Chris Cody]

Why does Bradley Beal want to play? Like, it's the same thing with Damian Lillard. I don't think these guys want to play here right now. They want to play here two years ago when the Heat were Eastern Conference champions and they had Jimmy Butler.

[Stugotz]

They can hang out with the Panthers. They can hang out with the Panthers by the beaches with no state income tax. And he can play. He could spend time playing. He's one of only two players with a no trade clause. So he'd have to want to be here. Like there's no circumstance under which he gets here in which.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he may get bought out, it seems.

[Stugotz]

Well, but I'm saying he wouldn't end up here unless he wanted to be here. That's the only circumstance under which it happened.

[Greg Cody]

Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course I do.

[Greg Cody]

I make it Miller time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course.

[Greg Cody]

That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down. And then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip brought does that first hit.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.

[Greg Cody]

I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller Light, just thinking about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

It'S making me happy.

[Greg Cody]

Dude, the sun is out. It's nice. You have your friends showing up. You got your family there. You just had your first sip of Miller Light. And you know what? You're happy, you're blissful, you're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Light four years and for good reason. It's brewed for taste only. 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer, and it's still my go to Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 million carbs per 12 ounces.