The Big Suey: Dan Loves Fear (feat. Lucy Rohden)

Summary

Summary of "The Big Suey: Dan Loves Fear (feat. Lucy Rohden)"

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode Released April 8, 2025

In this lively episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan LeBatard and Stugotz engage in spirited discussions covering a wide range of topics, including sports analysis, pop culture commentary, and humorous banter. Featuring guest Lucy Rohden, the episode delves into intriguing conversations about celebrity transformations, college basketball's March Madness, and the quirks of everyday life, all infused with the show's signature wit and humor.

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1. Speculation on John Mulaney's Jaw Implants

Timestamp: [03:27] – [34:48]

The episode kicks off with host Billy Corben raising a provocative topic: comedian John Mulaney's alleged jaw implants. This sparks a heated yet humorous debate among the hosts.

• Billy Corben: "Did you know that John Mulaney... has now decided to really make his face marquee jaw implant." ([03:31])

• Dan LeBatard: "Learn your place. Mulaney, you're not a sex symbol." ([03:27])

As the conversation unfolds, the hosts humorously dissect the possibility of Mulaney undergoing cosmetic enhancements. Dan LeBatard challenges the notion, urging Mulaney to focus on his comedic talents rather than appearance.

• Billy Corben: "There's no disputing that. He looks more like a sex symbol in the jaw." ([06:09])

• Lucy Rodin: "I've looked at John Mulaney lately. I'm like, oh, this guy's had a glow up lately." ([10:15])

The debate touches on the responsibilities of public figures when speculating about others' personal choices, blending humor with a touch of seriousness.

2. Jay Leno's Tank Antics

Timestamp: [05:09] – [15:46]

Transitioning from celebrity talk, the hosts shift their focus to a humorous fictional scenario involving Jay Leno riding a tank through California streets.

• Billy Corben: "The last time we checked in with Jay Leno, he had fallen down a hill in a way that made him purple and swollen." ([05:09])

• Mike Ryan: "He was just looking for a parking spot in a very slow moving tank." ([05:13])

This segment showcases the hosts' ability to create entertaining and absurd narratives, highlighting their playful chemistry.

3. March Madness Championship Review

Timestamp: [16:53] – [42:12]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the recent March Madness championship game, focusing on the Florida Gators' performance and their journey through a tough conference.

• Billy Corben: "I was jaw droppingly alarmed by the first 15 three pointers in that game." ([16:53])

• Amin Elhassan: "Florida went through a gauntlet... they were the top team in one of the toughest conferences ever." ([25:48])

The discussion highlights Florida's dominance, their strategic gameplay, and the challenges they overcame to secure the championship. The hosts commend the team's resilience and tactical prowess, providing listeners with insightful sports commentary.

4. Travel Tales: Navigating Tampa

Timestamp: [35:46] – [37:28]

Lucy Rohden shares her amusing experiences navigating the city of Tampa, describing its perplexing layout.

• Amin Elhassan: "That city was designed by someone who was very drunk. Everything about it makes no sense." ([35:47])

• Billy Corben: "Put it on the poll, please. Was Tampa designed by someone who was drunk?" ([35:46])

This segment combines relatable travel frustrations with the hosts' humorous exaggerations, resonating with listeners who enjoy lighthearted anecdotes.

5. Bold Takes and Listener Engagement

Timestamp: [38:05] – [39:55]

The hosts encourage listener participation through polls and bold take segments, fostering an interactive atmosphere.

• Dan LeBatard: "My boldest take is that I think referees should only get to look at once when doing a challenge replay." ([38:30])

• Billy Corben: "Would any of you fear a jaw implant? Because just the sound of that seems horrifying to me." ([34:48])

These segments invite listeners to engage with the show’s content, offering a platform for sharing opinions and sparking further discussions.

6. Closing Remarks and Reflections

Timestamp: [40:41] – [43:25]

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the day's topics, reaffirming their views and acknowledging each other's contributions.

• Lucy Rodin: "For folks, It's Mike Ryan and you know that Miller Lite has basically been a partner of this show for almost 20 years." ([43:25])

The closing segments blend sponsor acknowledgments with final thoughts, maintaining the show's dynamic and engaging tone until the end.

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Notable Quotes with Attribution

• Dan LeBatard ([32:21]): "Time to throw away dollar journalist credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation."

• Billy Corben ([35:05]): "Does Dan love fear?"

• Amin Elhassan ([25:48]): "They were doing it closely. Duke was blowing everyone out."

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Conclusion

This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" masterfully balances humor with insightful commentary, offering listeners a comprehensive look into sports analysis, celebrity culture, and everyday life quirks. The engaging discussions, coupled with the hosts' dynamic interactions, make for an entertaining and thought-provoking listen, even for those who haven't tuned in.

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Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugatz]

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[Mike Ryan]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.

[Billy Corben]

Why are you listening to this show?

[Mike Ryan]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Billy Corben]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual Liar.

[Lucy Rodin]

This episode of the Dan Lobatar show with Stugatz is sponsored by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Billy Corben]

Mike Ryan, for a long time now, has been our expert on noticing when people who are in front of cameras are dyeing their hair or getting fake teeth or doing an assortment of things that are beauty related that he likes to point out. Not judgmentally, just passing along the information. Have you done anything with John Mulaney? Have you accused John Mulaney of any kind of artificial behavior? Because, Mike Ryan, I was told the other day and did not know this, had not suspected it, had not noticed it, that John Mulaney has had a jaw implant, that the Internet is clucking about the fact that John Mulaney, who was, I think, plenty boyishly handsome before, has now decided to really make his face marquee jaw implant. What's. What's that face? Billy, what are you doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

Learn your place. Mulaney, you're not a sex symbol. Like, enough.

[Billy Corben]

Are you sure he's not a sex symbol?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he's not supposed to be. I just. Stay in your lane.

[Mike Ryan]

He's forcing it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Go write your jokes. Be your funny guy. Have that be your appeal. This sex symbol bullshit that he's trying to pull. Get out of here, Mulaney, please.

[Lucy Rodin]

He is married to Olivia Munn.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well, he was married to someone else before.

[Lucy Rodin]

I think he's had good work done. He looks good.

[Billy Corben]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is John Mulaney a sex symbol? And also put on the poll. Did you know that John Mulaney had a jaw implant? Because I'd be scared to do a jaw implant. I would be scared of things going wrong with a jaw implant. I don't know the details of what kind of cement mix they put in your face in order to do that, but I don't think that's something I would want.

[Lucy Rodin]

There's some good work being done right now.

[Chris Cody]

What's the implant you'd be least worried about going into?

[Billy Corben]

Hair implant.

[David Sampson]

Tushy.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Lucy Rodin]

Oh, no, that's.

[Mike Ryan]

You would not be worried about.

[Chris Cody]

That's one way to say it.

[David Sampson]

Just open it, stick stuff in and close it. You can cover it up.

[Lucy Rodin]

It's been risky. Known to be risky.

[Billy Corben]

They do that out here all over South Florida in strange warehouses with, like, fix a flat and people.

[Lucy Rodin]

Who. Was someone we got on the show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Before, wasn't she the surgeon?

[Lucy Rodin]

No, she. Well, yeah, she did.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think Pebbles, the model, was the one that was injecting cement into people. Yes. If I remember correctly, Dr. Pebbles, the model.

[Lucy Rodin]

We should catch up with her.

[Billy Corben]

I don't think that's correct.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think we can.

[Billy Corben]

Please look it up. Please find. I don't think Pebbles the model was performing surgeries. I think that Pebbles the model.

[Mike Ryan]

I think she was.

[Billy Corben]

No, I think Pebbles d'Amodel had a terrible accident.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, good news. Conviction overturned in buttocks. Injection death. I'm going to read about this.

[Billy Corben]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, I have to paint. Never mind.

[David Sampson]

I'm saying that it's someone who's good at what they do. A backyard. Anything right is not good.

[Chris Cody]

Barbecues are good.

[David Sampson]

No. Unless you know how to barbecue.

[Mike Ryan]

Whose job? You could have anyone's jaw throughout the course of history.

[Billy Corben]

Bill Cowards.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep, that was my answer. You stole my answer.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, we're not going to beat that Christopher Reeve.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[David Sampson]

He had a good job.

[Mike Ryan]

Great job.

[Lucy Rodin]

It's a good job.

[Mike Ryan]

You're right.

[Billy Corben]

Don Shula had a good jaw. Does Jay Leno go from good jaw to too much jaw?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, too much jaw. Cartoonish.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[David Sampson]

How do you know that he got a new jaw? Do you see scars, eyes? There's a clear reference.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike said so.

[Billy Corben]

Look at the before. Look at the before and after photo. That's not a natural thing that happens there. Well, there are the.

[Lucy Rodin]

I get the IG targeted ads, the width of it, about the jaw strengtheners.

[Billy Corben]

There's no. There's no disputing that. He looks more like a sex symbol in the jaw.

[Chris Cody]

Like working out your jaw.

[Lucy Rodin]

You guys aren't on that algo?

[Chris Cody]

No. When do you turn 40?

[David Sampson]

I think that you should not accuse him of that.

[Billy Corben]

I believe it's known as fact. I don't believe it's something that is. That is just whispered and rumored.

[Lucy Rodin]

Do you think he got work done or you just got one of those, like those. Those balls that you put in your mouth?

[Dan LeBatard]

What?

[Lucy Rodin]

And you chew on them? Nah. Come on. Get your minds out of the gutter.

[Mike Ryan]

It looks like a little ball gag.

[Lucy Rodin]

No, not a ball gag. It does kind of look like one with a hole in the middle. You haven't had these IG ads. Oh, you're not fat. You just have a cortisol issue.

[Billy Corben]

Let me put up on the screen Jay Leno, where he was seen most recently. The last time we checked in with Jay Leno, he had fallen down a hill in a way that made him purple and swollen. Now let's check in on Jay Leno, who is just evidently riding through the streets of California in a Very slow moving tank. There were people videotaping him and he was apparently just looking for a parking spot in a very slow moving tank. It has to be a little bit jarring to be on a normal civilian street, see a tank coming towards you and then seeing only Jay Leno's head popping out of the tank because he's going 14 miles an hour on a street not meant for, you know, that isn't necessarily for tanks.

[David Sampson]

He was always famous for his car collections, and I think as he's gotten older, he wants to drive them. Like, why? Just look at them. Yeah, I love that he's driving that. It's hard to find parking that doesn't.

[Billy Corben]

Seem like it would be street legal. Put it on the poll at Le Batard.

[Chris Cody]

Show you give that thing a ticket.

[Billy Corben]

Is a tank street legal? How great would it be if he comes out from, like, the sushi place that he's in and shut up under the gun. It's just a parking ticket. That's when you stuck to the gun. Am I being irresponsible here and wondering whether. Wondering out loud and irresponsibly whether or not Mulaney has had a jaw implant, because it seems fairly obvious. I don't think this is a matter of opinion or conjecture. I think this is a. I think this is a fact. This is not his face filling out.

[Lucy Rodin]

It's not as obvious as the Matt Rife thing where he definitely had a jaw redone. I mean, the side by side. He could be doing jaw exercises. It is a thing.

[Billy Corben]

No, come on.

[David Sampson]

And he also could be playing with the photos. You know what you can do on your photos? You can make your jaw squat.

[Chris Cody]

That's a good exercise.

[Billy Corben]

He's on live television.

[Chris Cody]

Photos can be doctored that way.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'll back Dan up here.

[Dan LeBatard]

He has a show.

[Lucy Rodin]

I've looked at John Mulaney lately. I'm like, oh, this guy's had a glow up lately. He looks more and more handsome than he is.

[Chris Cody]

Dimples stay the same, though. I don't know if that would be good.

[Lucy Rodin]

His skin is super smooth. Like there's something going on there. But I don't think it's bad work, nor do I think it's too much.

[Chris Cody]

His chin in the before is not that small. So it's. It looks like he just maybe got punched in the face. Maybe swollen.

[Lucy Rodin]

Yeah, that's it. He got punched in the face.

[Billy Corben]

Guys, look up for me, please. The guy, the villain from Tango and Cash and his entire jaw.

[Mike Ryan]

What a jaw.

[Lucy Rodin]

Jack Palance.

[Billy Corben]

No Not Jack, the other one. No. Wait till they find the vil from Tango and Cash, who, spoiler alert, gets electrocuted when Sylvester Stallone runs away from him on a wet night through some electrical wire.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike, he's like. Jack Palance is, you know, first soldier. He's like, second in charge. His muscle.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, his muscle, yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

So Pebbles the model did not perform the surgeries. Pebbles the model was like a middle person who then connected some of these models to the person performing the surgery.

[Billy Corben]

A broker.

[Dan LeBatard]

A broker of sorts, yes. Pebbles, also, for those who are unaware, according to this article, was known as, quote, the girl who got booty. And she claimed that she's, quote, got more booty than Kardashian. And then that's how people would go and find Pebbles. And then Pebbles went and introduced people, and then that person injected silicone. And then in this case, there is respiratory failure as a result of what was injected. And Pebbles was viewed as like, an accomplice because this person gave Pebbles $200, which has been disputed.

[Lucy Rodin]

Hers.

[Billy Corben]

Wasn't the fix a flat situation?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, that was a different one.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then, if you remember, we had David Ovie of the Herald come on and tell us about certain. And we're going to get dicey here with language. Certain penal surgeries that were happening in warehouses as well, that had something to do, I believe, with toothpicks or something, and then that went awry as well. So I would just advise people. I'm not here to give medical advice, but I would go to a medical professional if you're seeking enhancements of some kind, and if it's in a warehouse or a van or, you know, wherever it may be, don't. Don't do that.

[Lucy Rodin]

And I have since seen more photos of John Mulaney beyond just side by side that we have here. And, yeah, there's something going on with that job that's not just, you know, working it out. That is some bone structure that has changed.

[Dan LeBatard]

The ears are still his, though, right? No ear job there.

[Lucy Rodin]

I don't think the ears. I mean, something might be going on with the hair, too.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, his hair's different.

[Mike Ryan]

His hair's different.

[Lucy Rodin]

I think he just, like, touched it up to give it more volume. Kind of like a CM Punk situation.

[Billy Corben]

Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show, does South Florida lead America in butt implants.

[Lucy Rodin]

And the guy you're talking about from Tango and Cash is Robert Zidor. And, yeah, yeah, that's a big jaw.

[Mike Ryan]

He plays the same role in every movie.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I don't think, I don't think he's had a lot of roles. I think that role, I don't believe that he has parlayed this into great acting fortune and fame.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys ever see someone on the way home from a butt implant? I've seen it at the gas station. So like they're always like in a van and they take out like the seats and they have to lay on their stomach. They can't sit down. So what you see is like you'll see like a van door is open and then you'll see someone that's just like laying somewhat elevated on their stomach, almost like a dangling spider because, yeah, their butt can't touch anything after the butt surgery. So they have to lay down flat. But there's not cars that you can lay down flat on your stomach. So you know, you have to resolve, as they say here. So you take out the seats in a minivan and you lay things out and the person's laying on their belly.

[Billy Corben]

Can you guys find for me please, a video that I saw the other day of physics that I did not know was possible? There's a cyclist that ends up catching a bunch of other pedaling cyclists because of the physics of if you lay flat on your stomach on a bicycle, you will move faster than people who are pedaling. If you're going downhill, like, you guys will find this, it'll be easy to find.

[Mike Ryan]

You'll also die.

[Billy Corben]

There is that risk. There is that risk. The speed the video I saw, the person sped past the motorcycle. That's the pace thing. Like sped right past everybody who was pedaling. And the, the, the vehicle that had a motor because of the aerodynamics of just going down a mountain the way Superman would on a bicycle.

[Lucy Rodin]

Closing this loop.

[Dan LeBatard]

Robert Zadar has parlayed his big ass.

[Lucy Rodin]

Jaw to 124 credits.

[Mike Ryan]

Apologize.

[Billy Corben]

Dano, give me what else he had after Tango and Cash and I will offer an apology.

[Mike Ryan]

He's been in 124 movies since.

[Billy Corben]

I don't think that's what he said. But if it's what he said, I will indeed apologize for my blasphemy. Looks fun and dangerous though. You would agree, right, that this looks. You would agree that this is terribly.

[Chris Cody]

Everyone else is like, oh, come on.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he's kicking ass.

[Billy Corben]

All those people are battling. And it is. What you say is, is correct. Stu got that is a good way to die. And he will also need a jaw implant if he lands the way that he might with if he hits Just even a rock or a pebble of.

[Chris Cody]

Some sort, he ain't worried about stopping.

[Billy Corben]

Nor will he be able to in any meaningful way.

[Chris Cody]

On your left, catching the lead scooter right now.

[Billy Corben]

How shitty do you feel if you're one of those cyclists working as hard as you were to pedal and this guy just speeds past you because he's figured out the physics of the motorcycle guy. Lucy Rodin is going to join us here in a moment to talk about college basketball and March Madness. That concludes last night. Billy, what information can we give the people about the thing that we did last night? For a couple of listeners, it was. It was fun to be able to watch an otherwise terrible game that wasn't very interesting until the last five minutes with some people who. Well, one person who won the March Madness tournament and someone else he brought along because he felt like he'd been wronged.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, we could tell him anything we want. We had our, you know, our prize, one of our two part prizes here will come down and, you know, join us in studio one day, kind of check things out, meet us in person. But last night we watched the championship game with Will. Mike joined. Jess joins Amin joined. Samson was there. Dan was there. We had a special guest who popped in at one point in time that David brought along, which is a treat for. For all of us.

[Billy Corben]

Dan Ugla made an appearance out of wow.

[Lucy Rodin]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Trying to cue our video department that has a photo of this.

[Chris Cody]

Is he smoking a heater?

[David Sampson]

No.

[Lucy Rodin]

Surprisingly, no. But boy, did we talk about Tarpon Bend, Automatic Slims and Tarpon Bend.

[Billy Corben]

He dominated those in the 2000s.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was a surprise. We weren't expecting Dan. He seemed very confused by the entire thing. He's like, what's going on here? Are we on somewhere? We're like, no, Dan, we're just kind of hanging out here watching the game.

[Lucy Rodin]

Look at those teeth.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yeah. Man, he was looking great. He was glowing.

[Billy Corben]

It had to be confusing to him being invited to watch college basketball with us and David Sampson.

[Chris Cody]

What's going on with Dan in this photo?

[David Sampson]

So he texted me after Dan's going on, and he said, what exactly was that? Because I had just texted and said, hey, can you hurry up and click this link and come on to reward one of our listeners who participated in this great tournament. And then when he gets off the call, he texts, he's like, tell me what that was again. Like, is that public? And I thought that was a legitimate question. Cause I forgot to say whether that was gonna be aired. And I Told him no. And here we are the next day. And now it's, well, not airing.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's just, you know.

[David Sampson]

Well, but you put his picture up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, sorry, Dan.

[David Sampson]

So now I'm gonna have to text him again and say your teeth were on the air.

[Billy Corben]

They're good teeth.

[Mike Ryan]

Great jaw.

[Dan LeBatard]

Great teeth.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, great teeth.

[Lucy Rodin]

Too good.

[David Sampson]

The best that a long term deal can buy.

[Billy Corben]

Too good. Yeah. He's right.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's that supposed to mean?

[Billy Corben]

He's right.

[David Sampson]

You gotta buy those teeth.

[Lucy Rodin]

Something's going on there.

[Chris Cody]

While we're talking tournament, I want to finally update the final update of our toasted bracket challenge. Tony won the DK Challenge. He barely beat out Jess. Tony had Florida winning. It's our toasted bracket challenge sponsored by Jimmy John's. They're finally here and they're hot. Try the new toasted sandwich at Jimmy John's. Order one today.

[Billy Corben]

What were your thoughts the room's thoughts on the game? Because I opened by saying that I wasn't going to do what I ended up doing, which is instead of celebrating a champion, I am. I was jaw droppingly alarmed by the first 15 three pointers in that game. It's not just that they were all missed, Stugatz. It's that it felt like all of them were going to hit the shot clock, right? Like it was just people shooting from a distance and not getting anywhere near the rim. But Florida is your champion today. And I don't know, right. They, they finished the season in their, in their conference tournament, which they won. They finished the season going 5 and 1 against Auburn, Alabama and Tennessee and then win the sixth straight that they have to win. And I think all of us watching were saying Florida and Duke look like the most talented teams out there. Look like they have the most pros.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, that's the matchup. Everyone wanted to see the final, right?

[Billy Corben]

And so. But hous. Houston gives you the thing though. Houston gives you the best thing in that tournament. There was nothing better, nothing than Duke losing that way. You will find nothing in that tournament that the casual sports fan and the die hard college basketball fan will enjoy more than Duke being denied its, its first possible championship in, in, in more than a decade with a team that we all know to have been better than any since. Maybe the one that had Zion Williamson and Corey McGetty on it or though, wait a minute. I'm. I'm. I' I'm. I'm.

[Mike Ryan]

I think McGetty was way before Zion Williamson.

[Billy Corben]

No, it was, it was Zion Williamson. It was reddish and it Was it was Cam Redding. Right.

[David Sampson]

Weren't even the top ranked team at the tournament.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

So I don't know what you mean.

[Lucy Rodin]

We'll say for, for a tournament that sometimes gives us random results and sometimes really random Final Fours. The last few years here, there's been very little doubt that the best team in the nation has won. Florida was the best team in the best conference all season long. You touted their postseason success within that conference. And then they go into a Final Four with all one seeds. This isn't the RAND Miami FAU Final Four. They go in there and they take care of business. And yeah, while the final was ugly again, they took out a number one seed leaving little doubt that in one of the toughest conferences arguably ever in the history of college basketball, they were the top, top team there in the cream of the crop.

[Mike Ryan]

Zion Williamson played in 2019. Corey McGetty played in 1998, I believe.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, that's a, that's a bad mistake by me and I think I named, I remember that Zion Williamson was the third biggest high school recruit on that team with Reddish and RJ Barrett. And I think I made him Reading and Reddish.

[Dan LeBatard]

But once a dookie, always a dookie, you know. So you weren't wrong.

[Billy Corben]

I was pretty wrong all around. All around pretty wrong.

[Lucy Rodin]

We lifted you up.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. We got a two point game in the national championship. I don't know what anyone's complaining about.

[Lucy Rodin]

If it's an ugly game, you at least want it to be a close, captivating game. And I heard, I don't know, I fell asleep, but I heard it was good.

[Mike Ryan]

If there's a team that would love to play a basketball game without an actual basketball, it's Houston serious.

[Billy Corben]

Put that on the poll at Levitar. Would Houston prefer to play basketball without using an actual basketball?

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Billy Corben]

Your history with him suggests three years of three years of heaters. But this Stu got my partner enlivened.

[Mike Ryan]

By a sports we're having sex, baby.

[Billy Corben]

And Joe Maurer. Yes. Like, this is the best version of him. What stugats.

[Chris Cody]

Now you are.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

The the feels good.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Billy Corben]

Lucy is with us now. Lucy, thank you for joining us. Your general thoughts, because I am the bad game police today and everyone's mad at me for being the bad game police. Should I care that it was a terrible game as long as it was a close game?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, I don't think you should care and I don't think it was terrible. I think that's just like how Houston plays basketball. They're a very like, make you lose your will to live type of team. So it was what Houston was. And so for Florida to be able to match their style of play to Houston's, which is like insane, I actually thought made it a pretty good game. And the fact that, like, we've kind of gone through this tournament, at least the earlier rounds with no upsets, a lot of blowouts, like, even if it's not the prettiest game in the world. And you're talking to an Iowa football fan here. So, like, I'm probably the worst person to ask this question to. It's like, yeah, we finally got a close game. So I don't know why you're complaining.

[Billy Corben]

Are you with Mike on the idea that there is no refuting that Florida was best all or most of the season?

[Amin Elhassan]

I agree with that, like, 98%. I do think you can make that argument for Duke as well. But I think what plays into that the most is the fact that they were in the sec, which got what, nine teams in the tournament? More than that, I don't know. The SEC was far away the best conference. Like, you can make the conversation that it was like the best conference ever in history this year with how good they were with Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama. Like, those are insanely good teams. So I'm fine with that. Because Florida went through a gauntlet. You win the SEC tournament, you then go and what, six straight in the NCAA tournament? Like, incredibly impressive from Florida.

[David Sampson]

What is it that would have brought you to 100% agreement? You said you 98% agree. I I've been thinking about this Nonstop. When you say that about someone, what was the piece of information that would have brought you to a hundo?

[Amin Elhassan]

What is your shirt?

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you wearing?

[Lucy Rodin]

My shirt?

[Mike Ryan]

It's a great question.

[Amin Elhassan]

What is that shirt? Where did you get that shirt from?

[David Sampson]

I got it from Robert Graham.

[Amin Elhassan]

Can you stand up? I'd like to see the rest of it.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a crazy shirt.

[David Sampson]

Dan.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's Dan flashes. It's like, I think you should leave.

[Lucy Rodin]

I think we can all agree that shirt is indeed grim.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, that's a crazy shirt. Okay, sorry. What was your question?

[David Sampson]

I just want to know what it is when people say, I 98% agree with you. Because I think then you talked and you were 100% in agreement, but you were scared to say it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, in 99 out of 100 times that game against Houston, Duke probably would have won. Like, things just went so batshit crazy at the end that it was one of those games where I had to rewind because I was so confused how any of that happened. And I think that you could make the argument with how Duke was playing in the tournament that they were the best team in the country with the fact that Florida had done like they. You know, obviously one got there, but they were doing it closely. Duke was blowing everyone out. So I'm curious how that game would have played out had it been Duke and not Houston, because I think Duke could have beat Florida and so. But that's just not how the tournament works. You know, you do what Duke did against Houston and you don't deserve to play in the national championship.

[Billy Corben]

Stugot thinks that Cooper Flag is overrated.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, he is. I mean, I don't think Cooper Flag is a nice player. Cooper Flag is a good college basketball player. But teams tanking their NBA season to get Cooper Flag because they think he's going to fix their NBA organization. Get out of here. That guy is not good enough. I am not impressed with Cooper Flag. Not from an NBA standpoint. From a college standpoint, he's fine. He's one of the best players in the country. NBA. For me, his game does not trade.

[Billy Corben]

He's the consensus number one pick.

[Lucy Rodin]

I don't care.

[Mike Ryan]

Number one pick have gone wrong before, Dan, and they'll go wrong again. I mean, I would say if you look over the course of time that more number one picks haven't worked out than have worked out. How about that?

[David Sampson]

Do you have him as Leitner? Just.

[Mike Ryan]

I have him, yeah. Slightly better than Leitner.

[Billy Corben]

He's going to be a really Good pro.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, Lucy, your thoughts here.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a crazy hot take. That's a hot, hot, hot take. Do you know what else is hot, hot, hot? Jimmy John's new toasted sandwich. Off roading is sponsored by Jimmy John John's. They're finally here and they're hot. Try new toasted sandwiches at Jimmy John's. Order one today.

[Billy Corben]

Answer his question, please.

[Amin Elhassan]

I did. I said it was hot, hot, hot, like Jimmy John's toasted sandwiches.

[Billy Corben]

But this is, this is crazy what he said.

[Lucy Rodin]

He trained with the USA select team as a 17 year old.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's insanely good. Like, your take is crazy. I think. Like, he's able to. Like, he's just so versatile. Like, he could play in the point. He's like one of the better defenders in college basketball. Like, he's just an insanely versatile player and has been electric the whole season. My brother had a similar take to you, which is that Cooper Flag is like as good as he is, but he has to make that last shot. Like, if you're that guy, you got to make that shot, which I kind of agree with. But, like, that's crazy. Like, he is. We've been hearing about him forever and I think he's lived up to every expectation.

[Billy Corben]

You know what's funny about that as analysis, though? And I'm always about process instead of result. So what's funny about that analysis? Yes, he's got to make that shot. However, the reason he's going to be a great pro is because he got that shot. Like, everyone knew that that shot was there and, and he had to be guarded. And the fact that he could get that good a shot in that situation.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Speaks to his skill set.

[Mike Ryan]

How about you beat Houston?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Mike Ryan]

How about you make it to the finals?

[Billy Corben]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

But how about you, the best player in the world, you got to that spot, hit the shot. It's your spot. That's your shot. That's what you wanted and you gagged.

[David Sampson]

You still have a 40% chance of failure and that's if you're the best field goal percentage there is. So you're playing the result. It's very.

[Billy Corben]

It's a great shot. He. But it's a terrible shot because he missed it.

[David Sampson]

No, that doesn't make it a terrible shot.

[Billy Corben]

But that's. But I would say that Stu Gotz, what he's doing there is, is exactly the analysis that Lucy's brother gave her, which is, which is smart kid. Like, but I do wonder If Stugat take is entirely different, if he simply makes that shot. I wonder if Stugat has the same take of he's overrated. If he simply makes.

[Mike Ryan]

What does he do against Florida though?

[Billy Corben]

So it's just game to game on.

[Mike Ryan]

Your analysis Always has been, always will be. Dan.

[David Sampson]

Okay, that's just a fan, that's not an analyst.

[Billy Corben]

Lucy, I will tell you, it was super weird to see UConn as an underdog be a surprise in women's basketball. It was strange to watch and then even stranger to feel the, the surprise of ah, yukon won by 30. That was something they were doing for two straight decades and they won by 30 in the championship game. And I'm surprised by that. Why am I surprised by that?

[Amin Elhassan]

UConn has not won a national championship since the Obama administration. Like it's been a long time. It doesn't feel as long just because we always associate UConn with success with national champions. They were favored to win the game against South Carolina. They were a 7 point favorite. Ish. According to our friends at DraftKings. What was shocking to me was just, just how they beat South Carolina, how dominant they were considering they weren't hitting threes in the first half. Like it was just like Don Staley said, like you got, we got punched in the mouth and that's exactly what happened. That was shocking to me because Don Staley doesn't lose like that. And the only other time that I've seen this South Carolina team lose like that was against UConn earlier in the season. Like, I just did not see that happening again. Especially after the way that South Carolina played Texas. They were very dominant against Texas. Texas. It was just like a UConn sort of team of destiny. Everything with AC floods injury and Paige Becker's and like wrapping up her college career like it was meant to happen like this. And the thing with UConn is I think they should go celebrate. And you know what I think they should do? I think they should go on a trip via Priceline. This is brought to you by Priceline. Are you dreaming about that trip? UConn Huskies. Book it and go to your happy price with Priceline.

[Billy Corben]

I feel like the way that you're doing this is a little bit too overt. I understand that you become a big star and all the sponsors want to be involved with every talking about sentence that you're involved in, but I do think you're being a little heavy handed with this. I want, I want to show you this and tell you, ask you what's responsible. And what's not responsible about me publicly accusing John Mulaney of getting a jaw implant? Here, he got one. Okay, so there it is. All right, but hold on a second. Do I need to have any sort of, like, qualifiers on this? Do I not have to have eyes?

[Dan LeBatard]

Time to throw away dollar journalist credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Mike Ryan]

You're good.

[Dan LeBatard]

David told us yesterday we could say whatever we want whenever we want, and there's no consequences. We don't have to just play that sounder.

[David Sampson]

Like, I'm against that sound. I find it irresponsible and a waste of Showtime. I am much more interested to hear Lucy's take and because I know so many people care about his jaw that we should keep talking about it. Lucy, is that a fake jaw? Does he look better?

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't particularly care about his job, but he's, like, very obviously had work done. Like, it's very clear that he's had work done, which is fine. Get work done if you want to get work done. I don't care. But when he was at that SNL50 reunion, he did, like, a red carpet interview, and I was like, oh, my. Whoa, That's a new jaw. Like, it's. He's gotten implants.

[Billy Corben]

Billy has said, hey, Mulaney, stay in your lane. We don't need you to try and be a sex symbol.

[Mike Ryan]

You're Mulaney.

[Billy Corben]

You don't get to be. You're a funny guy. You don't get to be a sex symbol.

[Dan LeBatard]

Your jokes.

[Billy Corben]

But I'm looking at that jaw implant and what I see with the dimples, with the hair, I see a sex symbol.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think he was, like, sort of a sex symbol before because he's funny, and women like funny men. Like, he was definitely a celebrity crush before. I don't think. I don't think he needed to get the jaw implants. Also, he's married to Olivia Munn. Like, you're good. Your life has worked out for you, John Mulaney. But I don't know if you guys want to go see John Mulaney. I don't know if he's touring. I don't know. What's up. You can use the Game Time app for shows as well. What time is it? It's Game Time. Download the Game Time app and redeem code lucy for $20 off your first purchase terms apply.

[Chris Cody]

This is unfair by us because the one that you're saying he had worked on is clearly, like, his Netflix show cover photo, where A lot of things could have been done to that photo. And the other one's, like, from a selfie phone, you know?

[Billy Corben]

Again, though, again, I will just state this. I know you guys. I get fooled by the Internet all the time. And I know that you're correct when you say anything can be photoshopped. He's live on Netflix every Wednesday. That is not altered. I'm watching a face. He is talking through what looks like a jaw implant.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think his head is wider. Like, I don't know if it was that he got his jaw implant. I think maybe he had, like, a cranial restructuring where he, like, maybe split it down the middle, insert a little bit, because his head entirely looks wider. That then makes his jaw wide. Do a side by side, Louis, so we can see. I think that his. His. That could explain his hair, too. Maybe they did something with his cranium. And then they put, like, a rug on top, cover it up. Long, straightened hair curled a little bit the front. Little Superman type of thing here.

[Chris Cody]

Everything's wider. Billy's so right on this. Look at his neck in that photo. It's a little wider.

[Billy Corben]

See, at Lebatard show, that's cause you put implants in. At Lebatard show. Would any of you fear a jaw implant? Because just the sound of that seems. Seems horrifying to me. Just not. Not having any other information.

[Mike Ryan]

You love fear, man.

[Billy Corben]

Put it on the poll as well. At Levittart show. Does Dan love fear?

[Lucy Rodin]

He's got a real boner for fear, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

If there was, like, a cosmetic surgery they removed fear, would you do it? If you had the option to remove fear or get fear implants, what do.

[Stugatz]

You do every day?

[Dan LeBatard]

Would you do fear implants or fear reduction?

[Lucy Rodin]

Need more fear. Fear.

[David Sampson]

He fears that without fear, he's no longer Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why?

[Billy Corben]

I just need it.

[David Sampson]

It's his fuel.

[Billy Corben]

Just need it. Need it.

[Mike Ryan]

Need to be scared.

[Chris Cody]

Fear or pain?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, one or the other.

[Lucy Rodin]

Or someone else's pain.

[Billy Corben]

Your travels, Lucy. Speaking of someone else's pain, you made your way over to Tampa. How was that experience?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, God.

[Amin Elhassan]

That city was designed by someone who was very drunk. Everything about it makes no sense. The roads don't make any sense. The buildings don't make any sense. Nothing makes sense. We were there for, what, four days? And we were lost for majority of that time. We would get in an elevator, and they wouldn't have all the floors. Okay, so we go up the stairs. Well, the stairs doesn't have all the floors, but the stairs has different floors. Okay, well, we were in the arena. We ended up like, walking through the kitchen just to get to the media space, but no one else was in the kitchen. And then we're driving on the roads and no road makes any sense. And they're all converging in weird different ways. And I just don't understand how Tampa was put together.

[Billy Corben]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebatard show. Was Tampa designed by someone who was drunk? At Lebatard show?

[David Sampson]

It was with Waze. Don't you never get lost? Does anyone get lost anymore?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, we were using Waze. That's how bad Tampa was. Waze was like, I don't know. Good luck.

[Billy Corben]

Well, this is.

[Amin Elhassan]

There's not a cup there.

[Billy Corben]

David Sampson has clearly never tried to drive in Hialeah. Like, our satellite systems and our technology have no explanation for how it is that roads change into different numbers in Hialeah ways. Cann not. There are certain places. I don't know if Tampa is one of them, but there are certain places that our technology is not going to help you with an electronic map. I don't know what other places are like that.

[David Sampson]

I drove in highly all the time looking for a ballpark. It's easy to find.

[Chris Cody]

A few days.

[David Sampson]

That's it, right? I was there. Windows up, though. But I was there.

[Chris Cody]

Come on.

[David Sampson]

No, I just wanted to make sure that I was taking in the environment, the neighborhood.

[Mike Ryan]

That's why the windows were.

[Billy Corben]

Why were the windows.

[Dan LeBatard]

What ballpark were you living?

[Billy Corben]

What do you say?

[David Sampson]

Very hot with the doors locked. It's very hot. Very hot.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ballparks in Little Havana.

[Billy Corben]

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[Chris Cody]

Doing this and I think the audience has brought it. This has been our, like, best execution of involving a sale thing with the audience being funny. I think this has been crazy.

[Lucy Rodin]

Are you framing it so we over deliver? Because we have over delivered every time. This is a great segment.

[Billy Corben]

I am challenging the audience and all of us to be better. That challenge has not been Miranda. Largely. Yes. Let's play. Let's play the boldest take.

[Lucy Rodin]

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[Dan LeBatard]

My boldest take is that I think referees should only get to look at.

[Lucy Rodin]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Decision, keep it moving. It's Ryan from Omaha.

[Billy Corben]

My take is that if your last name is Jones, your first name can be any city.

[Dan LeBatard]

And it sounds super cool. Miami Jones.

[Billy Corben]

Omaha Jones. Tokyo Jones. Hey, this is Danny from San Diego.

[Mike Ryan]

I got a limited fake.

[Billy Corben]

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[David Sampson]

I'll hang up and listen.

[Lucy Rodin]

Thanks.

[Billy Corben]

He's in the paint. In the paint. Do the act. Do the act. Do the act. Hello, this is Scott on the car phone. First time caller, longtime listener, and I was just curious. Is it possible that Cooper Flag's defense can be underrated? When all every single announcer ever talks about is how Cooper Flag's defense is underrated?

[Dan LeBatard]

Daniel. I think NBA head coaches should wear suits. Again, put some respect back on the profession. Thank you.

[Lucy Rodin]

Hey, guys, in regards to shampoo conditioners, two in one. If you got two in one, you don't have any.

[Billy Corben]

Man, that sucks.

[Lucy Rodin]

Like this.

[Mike Ryan]

He's right.

[Billy Corben]

Take it back. Take back what you guys said before that segment.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, the referee one look is a great idea. It is. I mean, you get one chance to take a look at the replay and that's it.

[David Sampson]

Who has a car phone?

[Billy Corben]

Who?

[David Sampson]

Anybody. They don't exist anymore.

[Billy Corben]

Well, if your phone is in your car, you've got a car phone.

[Mike Ryan]

Not everyone does.

[David Sampson]

It's just your cell phone.

[Billy Corben]

I know.

[Lucy Rodin]

I have a bold. Take that. If the Florida Gators, two previous national champions, weren't just so good, and even for the time, it was pretty wild that those guys decided, decided to run it back because guys were jumping to the league early back then. They're probably going to be remembered as the third best Florida Gators men's basketball team ever, despite having what could be the best resume.

[Billy Corben]

Because in that conference, yeah, they won.

[Lucy Rodin]

The toughest conference arguably in history. Defeated four AP top 11 teams in the tourney. Two number one seeds trailed by nine points or more in the second half of its last three games, still found ways to battle back. They were 5. 0 against AP top five teams and a 12. 0 run to end the season. Ten of those opponents in that 12, 0 run were ranked. They were also coincidentally, the first D1 program to have at least three national titles in football. And in men's basketball.

[Billy Corben]

Stugots came in here today saying that Jewish coaches are having a moment.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, they are.

[David Sampson]

Three out of four ain't bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Golden and Bruce Pearl. I wanted to do top five Jewish head coaches of all time. I'm not certain I can get a fifth Red Holtzman.

[Lucy Rodin]

So like. Well, I understand that's three though.

[Billy Corben]

You've got.

[Mike Ryan]

I got two to go.

[Lucy Rodin]

While I understand that the final left something to be desired, they couldn't beat More Number 1 seeds in the tournament than they did. And they were pinned as once the season got going as that team might be title good. And they just spent the entire season proving that assumption right.

[Mike Ryan]

You're saying of the three times they've won the national championship, this team will be celebrated the least?

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm saying because of their unique standing and their own program. Because of how famous that core was. Because of the success. Look, Corey Brewer, say what you will about him, he had a 50 point game in the NBA because of how famous. I guess we'll see what these guys become. But because of their standing within their own program, we're not doing the hot take thing that we probably should be doing, which is this could arguably be considered one of the greatest men's teams of all time.

[Billy Corben]

I think that we should be spending more time talking about how in the quiet and solemn Houston locker room, you heard sad, like sad, sad sound bytes that were interrupted by an intermittently flushing toilet in the background throughout all of the sadness.

[Stugatz]

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[Lucy Rodin]

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