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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
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Jon Stugotz
Why are you listening to this show.
Dan LeBatard
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry.
Zach Zaslow
I'm not going to apologize for that.
Dan LeBatard
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Jon Stugotz
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Dan LeBatard
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the habitual Liar.
Roy Bellamy
This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
Jon Stugotz
It's not easy to talk, right, Roy?
Roy Bellamy
No, this chin. The chin portion is going above my chin right now.
Chris Cody
Scratch your chin.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Jon Stugotz
All right, so you guys need to understand something. The reason no one wants to wear the costumes is because the costumes are always harder to do. Your job. We always underestimate. This has been a. This is. I mean, this has been a corporate crisis around here. Nobody wants to wear the costumes for good reasons. It's a legitimate punishment. However, I would say to all people involved, that's the stake of punishments. Like, there have to be consequences. So just like with this Zaslo bet, which I am telling you, if we do not get thousands of people to watch this game with Zaslo, because the stakes are he either gets all or nothing on work for free, on his dreams, and it's just one bet for all the stakes. And even if he wants to weasel out of it, he can. The stakes have to be maximum, all or nothing. And it has to cost something, and we need to be able to make it like a real gamble. We're working for a gambling company.
Dan LeBatard
We're gambling again. Dan, I'd like to raise the stakes a little bit more. There's an app. It's called the Playback app, right? And the Playback app is. It allows you to watch live programming while you are also kind of on the screen as the talent. So what I am suggesting is that we put Zaslo on the playback app while he watches Hawks Heat so people can watch in real time as his hope soar and his hopes are dashed by the performance of the Miami Heat. What do you think, guys?
Zach Zaslow
I mean, if. If I choose the Heat game to put everything on the line, I haven't made a decision yet. I don't even know that we're doing that.
Dan LeBatard
Sounds like you don't want these tickets, buddy.
Jon Stugotz
No, I.
Zach Zaslow
Listen, I'm going to say this one time, and that's the only time I want to say it. Don't question how badly I want to go see Pearl Jam. And let's just leave it at that. So we have an understanding now we're good. I'm sorry that I.
Jon Stugotz
And the part. The part that I'm trying to. I really need help from the group so I can get out of this quicksand. Please help me do this. Okay, none of this works unless it's an all or nothing bet on Zaslow. Works for free. Or. Or he gets the night of his life. The nights of his life. Like, that's the stakes.
Amin Elhassan
Dan, I have written down here the two scenarios in which Heat win. Zaz gets Heat lose. Zaz gets.
Zach Zaslow
Oh, I like this.
Amin Elhassan
So heat win, Zaz gets both. Knights of the Pearl Jam tickets. Great seats, obviously, like you said.
Zach Zaslow
And gets paid for work.
Amin Elhassan
And gets paid for work. It's already written down.
Zach Zaslow
All right, all right.
Amin Elhassan
So let it be written, let it be done.
Zach Zaslow
Now we're cooking.
Dan LeBatard
Heat lose.
Zach Zaslow
Okay, I don't like that.
Amin Elhassan
Zaz. No Pearl Jam tickets either. Either show. And Indentured Servitude. Yeah, indentured servitude. I don't know.
Zach Zaslow
Hold on a second. So my favorite team, their season is over. I don't get to see Pearl Jam and Indentured servitude.
Amin Elhassan
Which your wife hates, by the way.
Zach Zaslow
My wife. I don't know if you know this about wives.
Amin Elhassan
Love, money.
Zach Zaslow
Love money.
Jon Stugotz
You know what I mean? Okay.
Amin Elhassan
Who I'm going to put unhappy wife here.
Jon Stugotz
Is that also okay? But I don't know if you know this about husbands. Yes. Love, money, money. Everybody loves money. Yes, that's true. What is that?
Zach Zaslow
Truth bomb.
Amin Elhassan
He's right about that.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Jon Stugotz
Everyone loves money. Put it on the poll at Lebitage Show. Does everyone love money? What do you mean? What is that? What are you guys doing?
Jeremy Tache
Thank you for standing up in the name of feminism.
Jon Stugotz
What are you doing? You're gonna do a second time the dumbass joke of wives love money?
Zach Zaslow
Hey, does everyone love money? But especially wives?
Jon Stugotz
Oh, no, now, wait a minute. You're going. You're soaring too close to the sun. No, that's not true.
Chris Cody
I'll fly with us.
Jon Stugotz
No, no. Absolutely not. Absolutely.
Amin Elhassan
I write kids hate you, too there. Or no.
Chris Cody
You want to call my wife? Ask her.
Jon Stugotz
Absolutely not. I won't allow you guys to do that. You're simply wrong. What idiots. I work with, like absolute bozos.
Chris Cody
I'll call my wife, like.
Zach Zaslow
Ask her right now.
Jon Stugotz
No, look, look, I mean, look, I run a business. I know how much you guys like money.
Zach Zaslow
But then there's the wives.
Jon Stugotz
No, no, no, No. I don't believe the wives. Nope. I don't believe the wives. No. Are as bad as the dudes. The stakes to this bet need to be. And for. I mean, there's no weasel way out. If we're going to ask thousands of people to watch Zaslow. The stakes have to be indentured servitude. Like, okay, you could keep putting the high end somehow past the Pearl Jam tickets. The place we started is the Pearl Jam tickets are the dream. He does not have them unless he bets the most amount that can be bet of all the things he cares about. And one of the risks is he works for free through the hockey playoffs. That has to be the stakes.
Dan LeBatard
And we know that that will have a poor household for him, Dan.
Jon Stugotz
Yeah. And that's the stakes.
Zach Zaslow
People were asking me. Yes. Hey, so you got the tickets? You're going to pros. No, I don't have anything.
Jon Stugotz
He doesn't have any.
Zach Zaslow
I don't have anything.
Dan LeBatard
And he got.
Jon Stugotz
He will not get them unless he works for free.
Dan LeBatard
You got a promise from David Sampson, though. And that no means.
Jon Stugotz
Oh, it means nothing. Oh, yeah, it means it means nothing. So that's the stakes. You figure out how to do it. I'll put you guys on it.
Chris Cody
I think I've heard steaks just one too many time in this segment.
Dan LeBatard
For the love of God, I love steaks. Medium rare. Ribeye.
Jon Stugotz
How does Zazlo know where the magic creative content is?
Zach Zaslow
I know.
Jon Stugotz
He just got here. He shouldn't know where that is.
Chris Cody
All right, Szaz, you open it up blindly, pick one and read the topic.
Jeremy Tache
Unlike our stakes, the producers.
Dan LeBatard
Well done, Hanger.
Chris Cody
That's a good one. That's a good one.
Jon Stugotz
Excellent, Roy.
Roy Bellamy
Thank you.
Zach Zaslow
Would you rather know every language in the world or be able to talk to animals?
Dan LeBatard
Wow, this is a no brainer.
Amin Elhassan
It's every language, right?
Dan LeBatard
Every language.
Amin Elhassan
What do I care about what a crocodile thinks?
Roy Bellamy
Forget those frogs.
Chris Cody
No, I'm talking to animals, dude.
Jon Stugotz
What?
Chris Cody
Imagine you're just walking through. You're like, look at that. What? Those birds are horny.
Zach Zaslow
Or.
Dan LeBatard
You don't have to talk. What?
Chris Cody
What are those birds talking about?
Dan LeBatard
Did you hear that?
Chris Cody
That's crazy.
Jon Stugotz
You guys did that very poorly. What? I would absolutely want to talk to animals.
Chris Cody
That's right.
Jon Stugotz
Are you guys out of your mind? To have an entire different interaction with a language of every spec. That is. That does have thoughts and feelings?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. I. I really want to know what the bees are saying. Honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, Honey, honey, honey. Oh, my God. The queen bees all on my ass. Honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey.
Chris Cody
Think about the Netflix show that you could pitch. I can talk to animals.
Dan LeBatard
Does anyone know, though? Or do they think you're just crazy?
Chris Cody
That's true.
Jon Stugotz
That's a better question.
Roy Bellamy
Dr. Do over here.
Jon Stugotz
Wait a minute. That's the best question right there. You get the power. Do you want the power? But no one's going to believe you. No one will ever.
Amin Elhassan
You can't tell anybody that you know.
Jon Stugotz
Not well. You can, but no one's going to believe you.
Zach Zaslow
You would never believe that person if they told you I could talk to animals. No way.
Dan LeBatard
Be like, no, really? Your dog has a thing in its paw? Like, yeah, okay. All right, buddy. Thanks a lot.
Jon Stugotz
Every single person is going to ignore that what you're saying is true.
Chris Cody
Trying to think of how you would prove it.
Jeremy Tache
The same way they did in Dr. Dolittle.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
No, they didn't. They just kept bringing him sick animals. Like, that's a terrible life communicating with you. I don't want to fix animals. I want to walk into any bar around the world. I mean, just like, oh, my man. I want to impress people.
Jon Stugotz
So, okay, I. I was. So you just wanted to go into Taiwan and be able to order a beer?
Dan LeBatard
Pretty much, yes. And then go to Spain, to Salamanca, and, like, have my camera out. And then people say, oh, look at this tourist. And I'm like, well, Theresa. And then I look. Oh, he speaks it, too.
Chris Cody
I just wish, though, like, you're on a boat. You're out on a boat. You see, like, a dolphin come by like that. Dolphins talking shit. The dolphins talking shit about our boat.
Dan LeBatard
You know what's more useful than that? Walking into, like, Athens, Greece. And then the cab drivers talking shit. And then you talk shit back like, hey, man, I understand exactly what you said. Don't pull that shit with me. And they're like, oh, my God, I didn't know you were Greek. And, like, that's right.
Jeremy Tache
But see, I already know that I don't like people. I'd love the experience of getting to know some animals and knowing what their personalities are. Like, I don't need to know more people.
Dan LeBatard
You're assuming the animals are going to like you.
Jeremy Tache
Jeremy, they might not like me, but I'd rather have this really cool, unique experience that no one else in the history of mankind has been able to experience. Am I so wrong to want to speak to animals? I'd also love to know what my pets think about me.
Dan LeBatard
All right, do you want to risk that? Where it's like, oh, my God, now I can understand you, Muffin. Aren't you. Aren't you happy that we could communicate? And Muffin says, yeah, you.
Chris Cody
I was going to say, Jeremy, you might not like it. What if your cat secretly hates you?
Jeremy Tache
I really thought that I. I wanted to know what you guys thought about me when I didn't work here. And then I started working here, and I learned what you thought about me. And you guys might be convincing me that I might want to speak different languages instead of speaking to animals.
Chris Cody
The more I think this out, I'm. We can't talk to animals. We can just understand them. So it's like, the ability to talk to animals would be awesome, but if I'm just able to understand, I can't communicate back.
Dan LeBatard
Chris, you're telling me you would love to communicate with animals. As you're walking down the street, a couple of squirrels are up there, and they're like, hey, look at this fat ass over here. Hey, you ginger fat.
Chris Cody
I know. I would be like, why would the squirrels be that mean?
Jon Stugotz
No, the thing that. The thing that I mean is doing that. It's funny. Is there. Is that if the animals. The exact same problems that we do, that you're just listening to a busy racist. No, just a busy intersection of bees yelling at each other angrily because whatever, there's not enough honey or they, like, they don't want to work this way.
Chris Cody
They even know the lingo to call me a ginger. Like, how are they up on all the phrases?
Dan LeBatard
I'm walking down the street, German shepherd says, I got my. On you, boy. Don't even try it. Don't even try it. What's he reaching for?
Jon Stugotz
I would like to hear how they feel about me, though. Wouldn't you. Wouldn't you like to hear if not a pet. Wouldn't you like to know if. What did that squirrel say? Like, because whatever.
Dan LeBatard
Dan, what about. Okay, imagine this. You can understand your dog and remember the night your dog got into all the chocolate and we were all worried and we had to take the dog to the vet? What if that was actually a cry for help from the dog? The dog? Like, I can't spend another day with this guy talking about the economies of people built on black bodies. I just. Where's the chocolate? Give me all the chocolate. And as it's laying there, and it's like. As it's laying there, it's like, finally sweet release. You burst in and like, oh, no, they're home early. They're home early because something happened at dinner and they had to come home early.
Jon Stugotz
Do you realize that that would have been my dog announcing to me that that was a suicide attempt?
Chris Cody
Because it's getting dark, Actually, maybe I don't want to talk to animals.
Jon Stugotz
The dark chalk or the chocolate he ate that night, if he didn't immediately get his stomach pumped, would have been the end of him.
Chris Cody
It would have been the vet's telling you.
Jon Stugotz
It would have been nice for him to have been able to tell me that. I think it would have been like.
Dan LeBatard
River Phoenix at the Viper Room. Too soon?
Chris Cody
Yes.
Jon Stugotz
No.
Dan LeBatard
By the way, have you guys seen this? It's a trend on TikTok, and it's like they do this AI aging of people from earlier.
Zach Zaslow
I don't like it.
Dan LeBatard
I love it, man. And they play Alphaville Forever Young. I love it. I can't get enough of it. My algorithm has learned it. It just keeps funneling all this shit to me. Hey, hey, remember the Breakfast Club look like looking at them now, like, oh, shit. Wow, Molly Ringwald. You really aged, right? Like, I love that shit. I can't get enough of it. I want, you know, I love it so much, I want someone to do a version of that, of us, like, oh, 2015, Chris. And then it's like it just kind of grows.
Chris Cody
I like what you did there. I just noticed your shirt, by the way. Sturdy Wings.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, it's a. It's a great charitable organization.
Chris Cody
Good reference.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Jeremy Tache
I think this is an unfortunate examination of the psyches of the people in this room. Because, Dan, you and I both wanted to know what animals think about us, while Amin and Tony were like, yeah, let me know every language so I can go to whatever bar I want and talk shit with people because they want to use it for the fun and glory. And we both want to use it to feel even more self conscious than we already do.
Zach Zaslow
I want to talk to the animals. I want to be able to communicate with the animals.
Chris Cody
Remember, you can't talk to them in this scenario. You can only understand.
Zach Zaslow
Yeah, I want to be able to understand the animals. I only speak English. I'm getting along just fine, you know?
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, but what if you could speak Spanish?
Zach Zaslow
It'd be cool, but you give me a choice here. I'd rather communicate with the animal.
Amin Elhassan
But you could speak every language ever. I just go and just hobnob and shake hands.
Chris Cody
But that's more attainable, though. Like, somebody could essentially study not every language, but you could study and learn A bunch of languages, whereas nobody can learn to talk.
Amin Elhassan
Are you going to get bored of talking to animals at some point and be like, oh, okay, this guy.
Chris Cody
I'm going to write books, I'm going to start podcasts. Like, you don't know the content opportunity. If I can understand animals, dude, he.
Dan LeBatard
Could walk into the. The. What are they called, the Panthers locker room and, like, communicate with all those Russian dudes and stuff, man, like, immediately. And not.
Chris Cody
Imagine going to the zoo and communicating with actual Panthers.
Dan LeBatard
You know, the credibility. The credibility that comes along with walking into a locker room, going to the foreign player and saying, I speak your language fluently. And he's like, dan, you talk about this all the time about the Spanish speaking baseball players. The reason they don't like anybody is because no one understands them. But then if you speak their language, they open up. You would be the greatest sports broadcaster of all time because you could do any interview with anybody. Shohei. Hey, guess what, Shohei, get that interpreter out of here. You're gonna have to answer some of these questions for real.
Chris Cody
I want to know what those animals really think of Ron McGill at the zoo. I want to. I want to sit down with that rhino.
Dan LeBatard
Money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money.
Chris Cody
He comes over here, he shows off, he throws you a snack. You hate this guy, don't you?
Jon Stugotz
But excuse me, the stakes that Ron McGill would put on. If you asked Ron McGill, what would he want more than anything that man could have. And I imagine that he's closer to fluency with animals than most. But if I gave him that ability, I would think he would want no other ability given to him while walking the planet beyond that one. The ability to know exact, to communicate correctly with animals with fluency. Would it not be his most valuable.
Dan LeBatard
Thing for Ron McGill, sure. That's his job. He works at a zoo. This is an incredibly important and, like, beneficial thing for any other human being. I guarantee you, two weeks in, you're like, okay, enough, I get it. You like acorns. You like acorns, okay?
Jon Stugotz
But that puts us at the top of the food chain. I would love to have a podcast with animals at the zoo bitching because people don't want to take care of the animal kingdom, but they can't hear.
Amin Elhassan
The podcast right, like you do the podcast.
Jon Stugotz
I'm assuming in this scenario, I'm legitimately the only that the scenario is different than the one I presented to you. It'll make you crazy if you're the only one who can talk to the Animals. But you can't tell anyone and nobody believes you. But you're the only one who could talk to the animals, and everyone believes you and you're the one. It is, as Chris says, a fountain of a content opportunity. Because not everybody like you guys is cave people at the top of the food chain who don't care about animals.
Dan LeBatard
Dan, we care about animals. You don't need a genie for this right now. Let's assume right now you have the superpower. You can communicate with animals. Go convince anybody out there. Go, go. Who's going to believe you?
Jon Stugotz
I promise you this is what your.
Dan LeBatard
Podcast is going to sound like. Respectfully. Oh, wow. So Nibbles really likes the Panthers. Tonight over the lightning, they said the ass is going to get tough. Oh, wow. Oh, Scrappy thinks that the Heat are really going to go on a run in the playoffs.
Zach Zaslow
How about this? How about this? If you communicate with horses or with greyhounds, you can win a lot of money. The track.
Jon Stugotz
Hold on.
Amin Elhassan
You bet the wrong one. The guy's like, I got a good feeling about this. And you're like, buddy, this guy sucks.
Dan LeBatard
You get the stugots of greyhounds like, it's a done deal. I got this, buddy. I got this.
Jon Stugotz
I was in eighth place.
Dan LeBatard
I'm doing laps.
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Zach Zaslow
Don Lebatard I saw a post on Twitter yesterday how the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Zach Zaslow
That they won the division. Guess what? It's been two years, and that's two years too long. Stugats could take that ass too.
Dan LeBatard
We're taking two asses.
Roy Bellamy
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Zach Zaslow
I'm just trying to win some bets.
Dan LeBatard
Speaking languages helps you win bets.
Jon Stugotz
So it all comes back to what happens in a bar and how much money can I have?
Dan LeBatard
Dan, think about this. You want to make money? You want to make money? Watch this. Watch this. I go on a trip with some friends, right? Let's go to Kazakhstan. And I walk up to them, and I say, 100 bucks. I can get this guy to hand me his hat. And then I tell the guy, hey, I'll give you 100 of euro currency, which is a lot smaller than $100. Just hand me your hat for a second. I'll hand it back to you. And he goes, oh, sure. He gives it to me, and it gives back.
Jon Stugotz
Boom.
Dan LeBatard
And now all of a sudden, my friends are like, oh, my God. How'd you do that? I was like, lucky guess, I guess. And I just do this over and over again. Then I get in with the millionaires, and then I make bigger bets, right? Much bigger bets. Like, hey, $100,000. I could get Alexander Ovechkin to hand me his skate right now, right? Just the one skate. And I can say, ovi, ovi, do me a band to make a dance. I love that song. He's like, oh, yeah, me too. Hey, hand me your skate, and I'll hand it right back to you. He's like, oh, cool, right? And he hands me a skate. I hand it back to him. Boom, $100,000. And then I get bigger bets. Now I'm with the billionaires row. And now we're betting, like, things like elections, right? I say, hey, I bet you I get Putin to dat me up. All right, okay. Hey, Putin, guess what? I'll deliver to you the entire American democratic system just dap me up and, like, cool. Boom. And now I'm running the world, Dan, just off of learning languages like that. Like that. Come on. Meanwhile, you want to go talk to our freaking ants and be like, oh, how'd you build that? Like, ant? I'm like, oh. Oh, wow. They said it was A lot of hard work, guys.
Zach Zaslow
If I can communicate with horses, you know how much money I can make on an exacta?
Jon Stugotz
See, this is ridiculous.
Dan LeBatard
You have the horses knowing like who's good and who's not.
Zach Zaslow
Yeah, that's right. They communicate with each other. And now I'm in the game.
Dan LeBatard
What if it's just a full of shit horse though?
Zach Zaslow
I'm gonna lear. I could communicate. I'm going to learn their ways.
Roy Bellamy
The horse lied to you.
Jon Stugotz
Isn't that what we're all doing already with sports and gambling?
Dan LeBatard
Yes. It's like imagine if like Dante Porter told you something like, oh yeah, like.
Amin Elhassan
The great under in this game.
Jon Stugotz
The ants would be so disappointed by every conversation we've ever had around here about how to. How we analyze games. In fact, every heat conversation. Hey, what are the humans doing? They're talking about the heat again.
Zach Zaslow
You have me befriending the Jontay Porter of horses.
Dan LeBatard
You don't know them apart. They all look like horses to you. But meanwhile they know. They know. It's like, oh man, this guy's hanging out with Johntey Porter over here. Meanwhile, the ants are like. He says he got to go back to work. Oh, wow, the ants are working. Thanks, Dan.
Jon Stugotz
I got to salute you. I mean, for trying both the ants and the bees there. You did good work. That's a tough. I mean, you think you had small brained animals. Not a lot to work with. I appreciate the effort there. They were good. Yeah, you did. I did not. Had. You had. I did not know you had the horse in your arsenal.
Chris Cody
I also have a cow.
Roy Bellamy
It's a good cow.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, we got a cow that comes up and say, hey, Tim, correction. I really need to get milk just by this one udder right here. Just. Yeah, just keep going. There's a little bit more milk in there. Come on. Don't stop. Oh, it's so much milk. It's so much milk, Tim. Thank you. Gross. Thank you. Hey, Calvin.
Jon Stugotz
Yeah?
Dan LeBatard
Kirschen's here. Go ahead. Come on, guys.
Jon Stugotz
You know, how is it that. How is it that that happened yesterday and we just skipped past it, that Tim Kirchen's not merely bad at technology, that Tim Kirkjian doesn't understand how to milk a cow in such a way that made it obvious that Tim Kirchhoin would unsuccessfully try to milk a male cow?
Dan LeBatard
It's incredible. It's unbelievable.
Jon Stugotz
Like a grown man. He's near 70 or after 70 years old. That's not a thing that a human being can't know.
Dan LeBatard
That's something that you learn well before you become a baseball expert, Right? Like, this may be, like, six, seven years old, you know, hey, they're boy cows and they're girl cows. The girl cows give us milk. The boy cows will try to convince you they give you milk. But, no, don't believe them. Don't listen to Tim.
Zach Zaslow
Do they try. Do the boy cows try and convince us? When we walk over there, they sidle.
Dan LeBatard
Up like, oh, got so much milk. Oh, so much milk in me. Just, hey, just. Just give it a squeeze.
Chris Cody
I mean, meet the parents taught us this. I mean, I have nipples. Greg, can you milk me?
Dan LeBatard
It's not my nipple, but go ahead.
Jon Stugotz
Roy, how are you holding up? You seem. Your is the stick. You seem uncomfortable.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, I think this jersey is a bit too small. It's smaller than the actual jersey I'm gonna wear during Learning to play in a month. So it's kind of tight on me right now.
Chris Cody
Why aren't you opening your mouth again?
Roy Bellamy
The chin is right here.
Zach Zaslow
Safety.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, safety.
Dan LeBatard
It looks like he's getting better as the show goes on. I'm gonna say that right now you look a lot more comfortable than you did when you first walked in.
Jon Stugotz
Roy, you correct me if I'm wrong, because that he walked in, he had a command of the room he does not presently have. There were people here, and they were acting like bees and horses. I need him to get control of the room. It is a really sweet idea to actually care, to wonder what the animals think of us. We don't care. We get the translations to Ron McGill and say, get out of here. We'll give you a bunch of money for your donation and get out of here. Here, you're loon. Don't care about the animals so much. We've got bigger problems. The humans are at risk.
Chris Cody
The downside is, like, learning stuff we don't want to know. Like, you know, where it's just like, oh, these. All these animals at the zoo, they're in, like, isolated, so they're all crazy people. Like, they're just, like, talking to the rocks. Like, hey, good to see you today, rock. It's just like, oh, that's sad. That elephant's talking to that rock over there.
Dan LeBatard
That.
Jon Stugotz
Wait. Wait till you start talking to people who tell you the plants are also. The plants have languages that we do not know.
Jeremy Tache
Aaron Rodgers.
Jon Stugotz
That's a whole podcast industry for itself. You can secretly talk to the plants as well.
Chris Cody
Now. That would be boring. That I'm out on. I Don't give a shit about what you know.
Dan LeBatard
Don't pee on me. Please don't be me.
Chris Cody
Again.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, God, here comes Greg Cody again. It's in my eyes.
Roy Bellamy
Oh, no, not the lawnmower.
Chris Cody
Oh, the lawnmower. That must be traumatic.
Jeremy Tache
Oh, God.
Dan LeBatard
Oh.
Jon Stugotz
Weed whacker.
Jeremy Tache
Or is it just a haircut?
Chris Cody
No, that's true.
Jon Stugotz
There's no way they trust us. No way.
Chris Cody
Maybe they do look at it as just a haircut.
Jon Stugotz
No. No.
Chris Cody
Finally, this guy is killing our friends.
Dan LeBatard
Or maybe they won part of the action. It's like, please, two gods, pick me, pick me, roll me, smoke me, cigars. Yes.
Jon Stugotz
Yes.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God. Nirvana.
Jon Stugotz
Don't chop down my brother. No, thank you. Roy, I really do feel bad for you today. That job cannot be done successfully under any circumstances. It cannot be done successfully under these. There are too many people yelling at you. Gas bag of the week is not available to a fingertip. Your gloves are way too big. But I will say, and I cannot dispute this, today is the. That when you walked into this room, into the room in management to run this show, you have never looked more physically imposing. You have never looked larger than the room around you. Everyone smaller than you. And that has since fallen apart.
Roy Bellamy
Yes, because I'm sitting now. I'm not standing.
Jon Stugotz
But we would all agree that Roy in a hockey uniform gave off the hockey playoffs are here and big, fast, strong people are about to be bigger, stronger, and faster because the most fun stuff is coming our way. And now Zaz is going to say the train is coming two different ways. And he's got a whole lot more belief in one of the teams than he does in the other.
Zach Zaslow
Well, I mean, he's got a whole.
Jon Stugotz
Lot of belief, a whole lot more belief of one in the teams than the other.
Zach Zaslow
You know what's going to happen, though, this Sunday?
Jon Stugotz
No, don't do this.
Zach Zaslow
You know, though, right? I mean, Panthers, lightning, game one.
Dan LeBatard
What's going to happen happen?
Zach Zaslow
It's been a full year.
Dan LeBatard
Lightning.
Jon Stugotz
Get that ass.
Zach Zaslow
Took.
Roy Bellamy
Yes, there's an ass.
Jon Stugotz
It's about to get took.
Chris Cody
So back.
Jon Stugotz
Okay.
Zach Zaslow
Oh, it's my drugs. I love these playoffs, the Stanley cup playoffs. It courses through my veins. The odd of the anxiety. They have the entire game shake. And then the end when the final buzzer goes the horn and. And the Panthers won the game. Oh, it's the greatest feeling. But those 60 Minutes, though, before. It's my drugs.
Jon Stugotz
Is there any particular reason. Have you guys noticed that this keeps happening? Is there any particular reason? Zaslo that when I put you to your allegiances, I know I can ask you the question right now. Who do you believe in more right now? And it would be the Panthers. By leaps and leaps and leaps and bounds.
Zach Zaslow
Yeah. Yeah. Because they're legitimately. I mean, it's also been proven they are legitimately a great team. Okay. I'm confident in the Heat. Tomorrow night, they're playing the stupid Hawks. All right, like, what are we talking about here? The Panthers. That's a great team that has a chance for a dynasty. I mean, they're trying to get to a third straight Stanley Cup Final, a second straight Stanley cup win. Yes, I am. I am supremely confident in my favorite little hockey team.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah. It didn't take that long for the Panthers to adjust to Paul Maurice's system. And that system is very much built for the playoffs. A lot of forechecking.
Zach Zaslow
It's hard to understand you with the chips.
Dan LeBatard
I know.
Roy Bellamy
I know. I can't. I can't. There it is again.
Chris Cody
Is Russ. The thing in hockey, like, Russ for Aaron Eckweg? I'm just saying, like, a lot of these guys been out for a while.
Zach Zaslow
You saw Chucky was doing the rounds yesterday. Media. He was on the shows yesterday.
Chris Cody
All the rounds.
Zach Zaslow
He's going to be back on Sunday. He'll be back.
Jon Stugotz
Roy, you are in a position right now where your hockey show is blossoming. You are a hockey expert. We have you in a position right now where it's not very easy to do your job as. I need you to promote the hockey show because the hockey show is going to soar over the next two months of Crazy, Crazy Insanity with Rose and Dwark. You need to be able to promote your show, but you're in a costume. And I need you right now to be great with Zaslow on hockey, but you want to be passionate, but you can't speak because you're wearing a chinstrap.
Roy Bellamy
No, it is very difficult as you. It's very difficult to speak normally as it is now with this mask on.
Jon Stugotz
A totally unfair position I have put him in.
Dan LeBatard
You sound like a ventriloquist. Like an amateur ventriloquist.
Chris Cody
Just a thought here. Maybe we take the mask off. Off.
Amin Elhassan
Or loosen the chin strap.
Zach Zaslow
No, I mean, the rules don't allow. You got to wear a helmet.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, I got. I got to wear a helmet.
Dan LeBatard
You know, I can't.
Roy Bellamy
I can't.
Jon Stugotz
There have to be consequences. I don't. I don't think you guys understand what punishments are. How is it possible that you Guys don't understand that there have to be con consequences on punishment.
Zach Zaslow
What did he do to have to wear the costume today?
Chris Cody
He don't want to know.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, you don't want to know. I got. I lost during football season. I got word this because of the greater. Death is one of the punishments for me.
Jon Stugotz
Do you know this? Look, I'm going to tell people. I don't think anybody knows what I'm about to say. Maybe Zaslow is one of. No, Joy Taylor would also know this.
Dan LeBatard
Okay.
Jon Stugotz
The grid of death was stolen. Yes. Los. So hold on a second. Hold on a second.
Jeremy Tache
Hold on a second.
Jon Stugotz
Hold on a second. Hold.
Zach Zaslow
Finally.
Jon Stugotz
Hold on. This is scandalous in 790 circles. This is it.
Zach Zaslow
This is something that me and Joy Taylor and Amber Wilson have spoken among us many a times. You this show. I wasn't gonna bring it up. You brought it up, though. So now we've opened Pandora's box. Everybody knows that you stole humiliation pool. I did humiliation pool. You put another name on it. Grid of death. You stole humiliation pool from my show. We had the wheel of humiliation. You have your grit of death. These are the same thing. You stole it.
Dan LeBatard
I believe it. I believe it was the 20th century poet, Shawn Carter, who said you made it a hotline. I made it a hot song. I think he thinks that it was a nice idea, but it was very primitive. We took it, we polished it up, we gave it bells and whistles. Finally we made it into a monster.
Zach Zaslow
Finally the truth comes out.
Jon Stugotz
So I'm glad I finally get to address this because he deserves this honor. He's a legend in the sports radio industry. And him, Amber and Joy did an amazing show for a long time here. This was a flat out thing that was stolen by none other than me personally. Personally just stolen.
Zach Zaslow
This is a hell of a mission.
Jon Stugotz
It wasn't anybody else. I did not ask them. They were doing something. They were spinning a wheel or doing something. I'm like, wow, that's a great idea.
Zach Zaslow
Those people are actually called the wheel of humiliation.
Jon Stugotz
Suffering the consequences of what they're doing. And I'm like, all right, let's grab that. Stolen.
Dan LeBatard
What were some of the humiliations they had on this?
Jon Stugotz
Better ones than we do. You guys won't do any of them. Thousands of times. People who were interested in entertaining the audience with actually having consequences. Their punishments were thousands of times better than yours.
Dan LeBatard
Zazzle, tell me some of your punishments that you guys had.
Zach Zaslow
I mean, one of them where we get shot up with the paint guns, you know Paintball. That was. That was tough. You know, that was tough. Another one, Joy Taylor. She had to wash our cars while, you know, dressed a specific way and.
Jon Stugotz
Oh, good times.
Dan LeBatard
Another one I'm glad we got.
Zach Zaslow
Long time ago. It's a long time ago.
Chris Cody
I mean, I think anyone. One would wear a bathing suit outside.
Jon Stugotz
Okay, that wasn't probably. What was.
Dan LeBatard
It was a tuxedo.
Zach Zaslow
Romberg. Brett Romberg had to dress up. He had to wear a dress and go shopping at Publix one time.
Jon Stugotz
Okay, somehow more so funny.
Dan LeBatard
Wow, Dan.
Jon Stugotz
You know what?
Chris Cody
Really good job, Dan.
Jon Stugotz
Wait, so we did polish it up.
Dan LeBatard
Bells and whistles.
Jon Stugotz
Okay, so the idea, as you mentioned earlier, and I. Oh, saved by retrospect. Oh, that was primitive. Okay, let's do that. Better than that.
Zach Zaslow
How about one time you had to give foot massages to everyone else on the show? That's humiliating.
Jon Stugotz
Okay, all of these charts. All of these things are. As I remember, they were more creative liabilities. As I. As I remember, they were. They were consequences that were worse than those we still haven't found. Consequences to what it is that we're doing here today. And while the magic creative content moved me off the subject matter, I would like to know in a break or somewhere else, I want to know how it is before the end of the show. Today, I get the payoff of Zaslow is playing for everything.
Zach Zaslow
Tonight we get our backs waxed one time.
Jon Stugotz
I don't care how we arrive at it. I will not leave today without knowing that Zaslo is. Let's make the stakes the next heat game. And the consequences are going to feel huge. It's not going to be about just money, but it's going to be a big money consequence. We all understand this.
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
Jon Stugotz
That what we're doing here, I think.
Dan LeBatard
We have the consequences. They're right here on the board.
Amin Elhassan
All or nothing. Dano.
Chris Cody
That's crazy.
Amin Elhassan
Pearl Jam tickets both nights, plus paid work if they win. If they lose. No Pearl Jam tickets. Indentured servitude, unhappy wife, kids hate.
Zach Zaslow
You had to eat a gas station hot dog one time.
Roy Bellamy
Oh, no.
Chris Cody
Delightful.
Dan LeBatard
Which gas station?
Chris Cody
Thanks for the invite.
Jon Stugotz
I think there are good gas station hot dogs. I think 7 11.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Jon Stugotz
I think you guys are now amateurs on what it is that convenience stores can make those quick trips.
Dan LeBatard
I had a whole meal out of quick trip.
Jon Stugotz
Wow.
Chris Cody
Well, two taquitos for $3 all day.
Dan LeBatard
That thirst buster, that was a punishment.
Roy Bellamy
I had to do to keep those.
Chris Cody
So there you go.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Jon Stugotz
Pablo had to eat pickled Pig's feet. That seems disgusting.
Chris Cody
Lucy had to dress up as Bobby Petrino.
Dan LeBatard
The worst ever is Mike when he had to eat the tripe. That one was the worst.
Roy Bellamy
Terrible.
Dan LeBatard
That was the absolute.
Chris Cody
Billy Onion wasn't great.
Zach Zaslow
One time I had to get smacked in the face with a fish.
Amin Elhassan
A real one.
Zach Zaslow
It was dead.
Dan LeBatard
What kind?
Chris Cody
Goldfish?
Dan LeBatard
Sardine?
Zach Zaslow
Trout?
Jon Stugotz
Well, I, I. So there. There have been a couple of times around here that I have been truly disgusted. The Billy Gill onion story is crazy to me. I still don't understand it. Billy Gill, it's having to eat on a whole onion was the bet. And he took a few bites, started throwing up. And then what happened?
Chris Cody
He ate it like an apple. We're gonna get the crunch. The famous crunch. It was just as bad as it sounds.
Dan LeBatard
Ended up hospitalized.
Jon Stugotz
Well, kidney stones, so. But those kings, they can't be combined, can they?
Chris Cody
I believe an onion will dehydrate you, and the dehydration will cause the kidney stone. Oh, that is. That's not us getting, like, a fake sounder. That is Billy biting into an onion.
Jon Stugotz
So. But that. So that is Billy actively poisoning himself on the air. If we had known that the onion was that dangerous.
Dan LeBatard
To be fair, I could bring my dad in to have this challenge, and he will clean it up, man.
Jon Stugotz
No way.
Dan LeBatard
And ask for more. My dad has a snack. We'll just get some raw onions. No, Just rolling. And start popping them.
Jon Stugotz
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I do not believe that there has been a character I don't believe there's been a character through human history, even in fiction, who has ever walked around eating an onion like an apple. That. That has. Tell me. That's existed. So you're telling me that two or three bites of onion are going to poison you or they're going to dehydrate you so much that you're going to.
Dan LeBatard
Be hospitalized like Billy, my father, As a snack we'll take. Now, he won't take it like an apple, but he'll chop it up, he'll squirt some lemon on it. He'll put some other spices and seasonings, and then he'll just start eating it, like, just go to town.
Jon Stugotz
Okay?
Dan LeBatard
And however many are on that plate, he's gonna eat them all.
Jon Stugotz
Okay, but. So, so, but that's still not the same as eating it as an apple, is it? Tony, are you with me on this? Like, eating an onion like an apple? I. I would assume that would make everyone listening to this wince.
Amin Elhassan
It's insane behavior, for sure. I think a weak man, that would happen to him. Like, Billy is not like stomachly very well.
Jon Stugotz
A weak man.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Billy grew up.
Amin Elhassan
Nobody gets dehydrated, goes to the hospital. That's crazy.
Dan LeBatard
Billy grew up with all the trappings of modern society, man. Air conditioning and running hot and cold water and cable tv, Internet, all this stuff. My father grew up in a village. What do you have in Africa, man? Like the dude. The dude, when he was like 18, went hitchhiking from Sudan to Europe with like $10.
Zach Zaslow
How far is that?
Dan LeBatard
That is a long ass way. The dude had to cross over and take boats and shit and then hitchhike. Didn't speak the language. He told me, like in Turkey, he would just go to the back of the restaurant and they would open up the like the bats of whatever they're cooking like this. And he's like this. Mm. Now, my father, he would have loved the ability to speak every single language because then he wouldn't have to do all that. That.
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Summary of "The Big Suey: Dan Reveals a Secret About the Grid of Death"
Released on April 17, 2025
Introduction In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosted by Dan Le Batard and Jon Stugotz from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the team delves into a mix of sports banter, high-stakes bets, and unexpected confrontations. The episode, titled "The Big Suey: Dan Reveals a Secret About the Grid of Death," centers around a controversial revelation that shakes up the dynamics among the hosts.
High-Stakes Bets and Punishments The episode kicks off with the hosts discussing a high-stakes bet involving Zach Zaslow. Jon Stugotz emphasizes the importance of making the stakes "all or nothing" to ensure commitment:
"If we're going to ask thousands of people to watch Zaslow, the stakes have to be indentured servitude... it's not going to be about just money, but it's going to be a big money consequence." (03:58)
Dan Le Batard introduces the idea of using the Playback app to monitor Zaslow's reactions during a Miami Heat vs. Hawks game, adding transparency to the bet:
"We can watch in real time as his hope soar and his hopes are dashed by the performance of the Miami Heat." (03:58)
Despite initial resistance from Zaslow, the hosts lay out comprehensive consequences based on the game's outcome, ranging from exclusive Pearl Jam tickets to forced work obligations.
The Grid of Death: A Controversial Revelation The episode takes a dramatic turn when Jon Stugotz accuses Dan Le Batard of stealing the "Grid of Death" concept from their previous show. This confrontation is sparked by memories of past segments like the "Wheel of Humiliation," which featured entertaining punishments for hosts:
"These are the same thing. You stole it." (35:38)
Zaslow backs Jon's claim, highlighting that their original "Wheel of Humiliation" included creative and engaging punishments such as paintball battles and public dress-up challenges, which they believe were superior to Dan's version.
Dan counters by acknowledging the inspiration but claims to have enhanced the concept:
"We took it, we polished it up, we gave it bells and whistles. Finally, we made it into a monster." (36:37)
The discussion reveals underlying tensions between the hosts regarding creative ownership and the originality of their show's segments.
"Would You Rather" Segment: Animals vs. Every Language Amidst the heated exchange, the hosts engage in a lighthearted "Would You Rather" game, pondering the benefits of speaking every language versus being able to communicate with animals. This segment serves as a brief respite from the conflict, showcasing the show's trademark blend of humor and speculative conversation.
"Would you rather know every language in the world or be able to talk to animals?" (09:07)
The debate highlights personal preferences and the imagined advantages of each ability, with hosts sharing playful scenarios about interactions with animals and multilingual opportunities.
Reflections and Additional Banter As the episode progresses, the hosts reminisce about past punishments and creative ideas, demonstrating camaraderie despite the earlier tension. They share anecdotes about enduring challenging tasks and emphasize the importance of engaging and entertaining content for their audience.
"One time you had to give foot massages to everyone else on the show. That's humiliating." (38:32)
The banter extends to humorous exchanges about animal behavior and the feasibility of communicating with different species, further illustrating the show's dynamic and entertaining atmosphere.
Conclusion: Moving Forward Amidst Tensions The episode concludes with a mix of resolved and unresolved tensions. While the hosts acknowledge the creative overlap of segments like the "Grid of Death," they also express a commitment to delivering engaging content. The confrontation serves as a catalyst for introspection about originality and collaboration within the radio show framework.
"We have the consequences. They're right here on the board." (39:35)
"I think it's insane behavior, for sure." (43:32)
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Final Thoughts This episode showcases the intricate interplay between cooperation and competition among the hosts, set against a backdrop of high-stakes betting and creative content development. The revelation about the "Grid of Death" not only adds drama but also invites listeners to consider the complexities of intellectual property within the entertainment industry. Despite the tensions, the hosts maintain their signature humor and camaraderie, ensuring that the show remains engaging and entertaining for their audience.