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Dan Le Batard
Now's a good time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo, what are you doing here?
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Stugats
Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
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Dan Le Batard
Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out especially for one of our great partners.
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Stugats
Sweet, delicious Cuervo.
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Dan Le Batard
Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.
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Stugats
Cuervo.
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Dan Le Batard
So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo. Cuervo the tequila that invented tequila. Proximo Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly Cuervo Thursday Night Football's on and it's only on Prime Video. Tonight, the Dallas Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions in a new rivalry with lots of heat. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's.
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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David Sampson
Chevrolet Together, let's drive.
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Stugats
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show?
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David Sampson
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?
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Stugats
I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
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Dan Le Batard
I've done it.
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Stugats
And now here's the Marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
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David Sampson
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
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Stugats
What is the latest on Jordan Hudson? And if you don't know that name, she is the young girlfriend of Bill Belichick. There is a sports book that is Taking bets on whether or not one of two things happens. First. First, she sues Pablo Torre, who they are calling Pablo Torres.
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Dan Le Batard
She wins the lawsuit against Pablo Torres.
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Stugats
Ruben Banes, or she gets pregnant.
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Dan Le Batard
Right now, the odds are minus 300 for that, plus 200 to be Pablo Torres.
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Stugats
Okay, so that is the predictions market that Trump kids are dominating. We will get to that and other things with David Sampson. We miss David Sampson around here. Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast if you want to see him covering terrain. As I've told you before, that not a lot of people in sports are able to cover.
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Dan Le Batard
But to answer your initial question about Jordan, she submitted a Freedom of Information act request against her school's top comms officer, I guess alluding to the fact that she may suspect he's behind the 60 minutes leak.
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Stugats
So you've got David Sampson smiling maniacally there. I haven't seen David Sampson do a lot of smiling lately. What can you tell us about in general, what you see happening all around Jordan Hudson?
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David Sampson
I want her to sue Pablo so badly. Not because I want you to be a part of it, because certainly Metal Arc would be named. You likely be personally named. Amin may be named. I may be named. I mean, Jeremy for sure should be named. It would be. So, yes, you. Jeremy, I don't want.
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Dan Le Batard
I don't want her fall guy.
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Stugats
I don't want her to sue us for sure. Jeremy, you want to be inevitable. You're being. You're rooting for her to sue us.
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Dan Le Batard
Yes.
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Stugats
Oh, for the love of God.
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Dan Le Batard
I'm not going to be deposed.
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David Sampson
You know about that discovery.
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Dan Le Batard
Dan.
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David Sampson
Dan, I promise you that if she files a lawsuit, I will make it my life's. Well, my second life's work to make sure that all attorneys fees are paid by Bill Belichick, number one. Number two, I will make sure that she is so thoroughly embarrassed by losing every single motion, every objection. It. Forget getting to a trial, which would be unbelievably great. It'll never happen that way. Defamatory. That's the best she's come up with. It's. It's got zero chance. It'll never make it past anything. As a matter of fact, I want to disbar the lawyer who would file the lawsuit on her behalf because it's so outrageous. But I just want her to keep trying because it just. It gives Pablo more. And Dan, you should love that. It's about Pablo and the show and his ability to find out more stuff. Can you imagine a lawsuit where you're taking the stand?
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Stugats
Yeah, I don't really want to pay attention. He's happy, yes, but he's not thinking about attorneys costs and he is saying, he is saying he'd get Belichick to pay for those costs. But I really don't want to be sued. I'm trying to avoid being sued. I'd like to.
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David Sampson
Have you ever been sued?
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Stugats
No. Not yet.
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David Sampson
Ever?
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Stugats
No.
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David Sampson
Wow. You haven't lived until you've been sued.
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Dan Le Batard
I got that at minus 250 in my own prediction market.
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Stugats
Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Have you lived? If you haven't been sued, yes or no, what is your take on everything happening around Giannis? As you are consistently pro management, I imagine you being just generally infuriated by any player trying to leave a contract.
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David Sampson
I, I resent the implication that I am always simply pro management. I'm simply pro fan. I want to, as a Milwaukee Bucks fan, as a lover of the city of Milwaukee, understand what, what it is more we need to do for the guy. We gave him the extension. He's paid over $50 million a year. He keeps us hanging like some lover at a middle school prom. Will you dance with me or not? Every year we have to worry about this. Now the Bucs start well, four and one. He's silent, everything's good. All of a sudden they're not winning games and now he wants out. Give me a small break, which is why I stated publicly, I'm nothing personal. Today I would trade him to the Clippers. That's the only place. Knicks, Heat. Forget it. I don't want to give him a chance to go to Joe's or go to Flash Dancers. No, I want him to have to live in the Intuit Dome with aspirations, co founders. That's it. I'm furious with Giannis.
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Stugats
Well, wait a minute. He would make the Clippers good if he went and played for the Clippers. You're not punishing him by sending him to Los Angeles. What is it that. Have you made many trades that are simply out of pettiness? You can't, you can't do. This guy's got too much value for you to just make a trade out of pettiness.
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David Sampson
You say value. In a salary cap league, you can't just trade a guy. You have to. There's money involved and you have to match salaries. And there's all sorts of rules where, where people cannot necessarily make straight basketball trades. And so, for example, with the Knicks, it was reported, in order for a trade to happen at all you have to trade og. You have to trade Bridges, among other people. Bridges can't get traded till the end of January, so Giannis would have to be injured until January 31st to then miraculously get better and then come back and play for the Knickerbockers. I just. To me, the Clippers are not going to make the playoffs. They're a losing organization. They've got a lot of systemic issues, as manifested by what they did to Chris Paul, that Giannis would not go ahead and make them a championship team. I'd send him there. David, you ever catch a player faking an injury? So, yes, but we've been a part of faking injuries, too. It's in baseball. It's called the Phantom Il. Funny enough, the Mets GM got in trouble for it, but every team uses it, so I don't know why. They made an example of that Mets guy and they got him in serious trouble. Whose name is escaping me, Jeremy, right now, but they, they, they. You got this. You got this. Jeremy Stearns. No, that's the current guy, the Mets GM who got suspended for the Phantom use Billy Epler. Thank you. It's very nice of you. Yeah, of course we use it and. But we choose injuries wisely. You can't choose a calf strain because you can look at the calf and see whether the Achilles sort of ran up it. The best injury that you can fake is one back soreness. No way to prove it. Oh, maybe like sciatica. That's my favorite. We always would have. Listen, you're not pitching well. We're going to put you on the illness and we're going to say, you've got arm soreness. Now, players and agents don't like when we would make up shoulder soreness because that could impact their free agency in later years, saying, oh, you had a sore shoulder, bad shoulder. So we would say arm soreness. Sometimes we would say, non pitching arm soreness. That's funny, right? What does that get sore from? And you're just doing it because you don't want the player in your rotation anymore because he just stinks and you hope that sending him to Florida will somehow make him better. But Giannis all of a sudden with a calf injury right after all this goes down. Give me a break.
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Stugats
Really? You want another break? You're. Are you accusing him of faking that?
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David Sampson
I'm accusing Giannis of simply manipulating Milwaukee and our emotions to the benefit of him when he doesn't need any more benefits.
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Stugats
Are you accusing him of faking it? If you're asking him to give you a break because he's left the game with a non contact injury. Are you accusing him of faking it?
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David Sampson
I didn't see a role, Dan. Did you? When the Achilles tears, you get a roll for a calf strain. Don't sit on the court, get yourself over to the bench and you're fine.
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Stugats
Answer the question.
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David Sampson
Yes. It's too coincidental. There's no way that Giannis. They're going through all this. Doc Rivers has to fly and jump through ridiculous oral hoops trying to explain what's happening, and then all of a sudden he's not playing. What is he, Jimmy Butler? Faking an injury, by the way, Dan, means Giannis doesn't have to talk post game, which means he doesn't get asked about the rumors.
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Dan Le Batard
Whoa.
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David Sampson
Tell me the next time Giannis talks to the media. When you're on the injured list and not playing, you are not responsible by rule to speak to the media, nor is the team responsible to give updates about that player to the media. You can completely ignore all inquiries.
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Dan Le Batard
Whoa.
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Stugats
Can you answer the question of whether or not you have ever traded someone with sheer pettiness?
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David Sampson
So sheer pettiness, is that like 100 to 0 petty?
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Stugats
Well, you're just. You're saying with Giannis, you would send him to the worst possible place, and you're saying that's the Clippers, because they don't have a future. And I would dispute that. But I understand why you're saying that. But you're saying, don't care about what is the best offer for Giannis, Send him to a place that punishes him and do something that's not necessarily better for your franchise, just makes you feel better because you're being petty. So how often have you done that in your career? Certainly you've never done it with someone of this value. You wouldn't do it with someone of this value. But have you done a trade where you're just being petty, where you want to punish someone for who they are, what they've done, and so you send them to a bad place?
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David Sampson
No, for those people, we just release them in terms of pettiness. The only pettiness I ever did is when I wouldn't approve any trades within the division, back when I thought that mattered. And it was such a stupid rule, it was so ridiculous that we would not even consider trades within the division because why would we help a team that we're competing with? But at the end of the day, that's totally asinine. You should Try to get back the most you can. And it's hard enough to win a trade even when you're. You have 29 other teams to work with. But when you shrink the sample a size of teams you're willing to deal with, it just seems foolish. But with players, when we were unhappy with the player, we would just release the player. And if we were trading the player, it was really prospects who I never heard of. So it wouldn't be me saying, hey, I don't want this player, I don't want him on that organization. I would say to the baseball people, you know, if that prospect you think is going to hit, you know, we'll take that one. That seems fine by me.
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Stugats
Is Kyle Tucker going to get $400 million?
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David Sampson
Whoa, boy, would that be asinine. I mean, just. Did you read where Kyle Tucker was touring the facilities in Dunedin? That was so great. There's been a spotting of Kyle Tucker in Toronto. Side note, the Blue Jays do have people talk about the Dodgers and the Yankees. Do you know the Blue Jays have the best facilities of any team in Major League Baseball, Dodgers included. From spring training to the home clubhouse to all of the extras that their players get, it makes like Mark Cuban's Mavericks clubhouse look like a dump at pro player. This is. The Blue Jays have great facilities, but Kyle Tucker will not sign with the Blue Jays nor will anyone because of Dunedin and how great it is to be at spring training for two months a year. That's just funny.
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Stugats
But you don't think he's going to get $400 million.
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David Sampson
So he is someone who helps your team but doesn't define your team. And I would like to reserve. Although baseball's gotten away from all of us. But $400 million better be someone who defines your team. And Kyle Tucker is a championship piece. He is not a championship maker. The irony is that the Blue Jays are looking for championship pieces because of the team they've put together. But putting 400 million to that, to me would be excessive. I mean, again, if it's 400 million over 20 years with no deferrals, I'm good. Jeremy, he's about a $25 million player for me.
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
Hey Amin here. And the NBA on Prime is back tomorrow with another great doubleheader.
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David Sampson
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Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
Don LeBatard the Hoy is Captain Slappy.
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Stugats
Stugats is this chum bucket.
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David Sampson
This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats.
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Foreign.
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Stugats
Can you look up for me how much money Tom Brady made in his career? And if Kyle Tucker is going to make more money than Tom Brady made in the entirety of his exceptionally long.
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David Sampson
Career, it's a terrible thing that you're doing because you could do that in any sport and you could take a current player who's mediocre, making a ton of money and they will have made more money than, you know, Don Mattingly or Andre Dawson.
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Stugats
But. But Tom Brady played recently and played for a long time and played at a time where salaries were plenty good.
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David Sampson
Not anywhere near the way they are now.
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Stugats
Well, no, but not anywhere near where they are now. But the point I'm making isn't about salaries or inflation. The point I'm making is how baseball doesn't have a salary cap and therefore the owners can't control themselves. And this is what ends up happening where you get the absurdity of I'm guessing Kyle Tucker has made more in his career than Tom Brady made.
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Dan Le Batard
Tom Brady made 332 million dol. But to David's defense here to his point, in the 20 years with the Patriots it was 235. In three years with the Bucks it was 97 million.
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David Sampson
So that shows the way that salary.
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Dan Le Batard
Escalated over the course of his career. He's making more money broadcasting than he.
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David Sampson
Did in his career.
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Stugats
But Kyle Tucker is about to make more than. He makes more than that. That's correct as well. And it's just, it's asinine. But it's because baseball doesn't have a salary cap. That's the note.
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David Sampson
It's not football has a salary cap. Why don't we examine football players who are making more on an average basis than Tom Brady?
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Stugats
There's no one making $400 million contracts in football other than the Mahomes types. And even, even he doesn't have it. Does he have a $400 million contract?
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David Sampson
It's pretty close over a career. So remember in football is very rare. Kyle Tucker, if he gets 400 he'll be looking at a 7 to 10 year deal let's say. And those type of long term deals in football are just harder to come by. Obviously Mahomes did, but there's not a huge number of players in baseball. The average contract length is greater ironically and it's all guaranteed. So it's totally ass backward. Football should have the longer deals because none of it is really guaranteed. Although now they try to guarantee more at signing than they ever had. But I would be in favor of longer term deals if none of it was guaranteed. But there are a bunch of football players who are mediocre who are making plenty of money more than they ever should have. But that's just a function of how high the cap is because of how high the revenue is.
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Stugats
I have a couple of baseball questions. What was that? Are you okay, Tony?
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David Sampson
Bless you.
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Stugats
Sorry, I have a couple of baseball questions that you might have some expertise for us on. I saw that Anthony Rendon, most recently when I checked, was in negotiations on a buyout with the Angels. He signed one of those absurd contracts. Seven years, $245 million. I was surprised that it was already over. And at the end of that contract. Can you take me through what the last year of a negotiation on something like that would be like? How do you get to the buyout stage of a guaranteed contract where everyone's unhappy?
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David Sampson
Well, let me just rewind a little bit. Anthony Rendon won the World Series in 2019 and he was a sought after free agent, the best position player free agent at the time. All 30 teams would have loved to have had Anthony Rendone and he just ended up being a dog. He ended up not performing, being injured and not liking baseball, not being a good teammate. Basically helping bring a franchise down where already the slope for the Anaheim Angels of LA was headed down. Now that he's in the last year of his deal. They talk about buyouts, but they're really lying to you. The union will not allow Anthony rendon to take $1 in diminished guarantee he is owed. Call it $39 million this year. Just make up a number. But I think I'm close. The union will not say, okay, negotiate a buyout where you get $20 million. No, that's not how it happens. The Angels could waive him and then still pay him the money every two weeks from April to September, but he wouldn't take up a roster spot and he's still getting his money. Or they could buy him out, which is code word for what happened. The NBA player, Chris Lillard. Lillard big thing where what they do is they spread it out and so it's a smaller hit this particular year, but he ends up getting more money over more years. That's what you can do in a buyout and that helps your tax payroll is that if. If you renegotiate and so Randon would get 42 million but paid out over five years, then the present value of that would be the effect would be a smaller tax hit for a team like the Angels. So that is a factor and that's what you're negotiating, but you're not negotiating a smaller amount of money ever.
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Stugats
Can you give me any insight into what is happening with the Padres and how often have you ever seen a manager of a team that is a playoff team just quit a couple of years in when he's Saying he's got to take care of just himself and wants to move on.
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David Sampson
Didn't he take another job, like almost immediately? Isn't he in player development now? I, I may be confused.
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Dan Le Batard
He's a. He's a coordinator of instruction for the Baltimore Orioles, but obviously that's a different.
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David Sampson
Type of workload than an everyday major league manager. Yeah, I assume that he couldn't stand the side of Preller anymore and that he had just had enough. And that's sort of a common thing in the game. If managers just had it with his gm. And the owner in the power struggle chooses the gm. We chose the GM almost always. Sometimes we chose the manager when there were power struggles. But you got to choose one. It is just not good. My first experience in baseball was with Felipe Alou and Jim Beatty and they couldn't stand. Ah, Felipe. They could. They. And it was just untenable. So we just fired Felipe. So that's what I assume happened with, with Mikey and, and A.J. i assume the Seidler family. But the team is being sold. It's a disaster up in San Diego. They've lowered their payroll significantly because they were irresponsible. Spending like drunken sailors, signing players, not winning, losing money, hand over fists. And finally MLB said, that's enough. You got to lower your payroll. And so they did. Then Peter Seiler croaks and now they lowered even more and now all of a sudden they're selling the team.
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Stugats
Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show. Did you think that drunken Sailors spent too much at Lebatard show?
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David Sampson
David, what do you believe happened with.
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Dan Le Batard
Chris Paul the other night?
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David Sampson
It's emotional. Emotional. I know. I get choked up when I think about what do you believe happened with Chris Paul the other night? And what do you make of the.
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Dan Le Batard
Way the Clippers handled it?
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David Sampson
So Dan and I. I don't know. Dan, if you listen to this morning, it's nothing personal, but you are 100% correct and it ain't a loogie. Something must have happened because to announce have this happen in the middle of the night is so irresponsible. And you said a crime. I thought about that. You know, if a player gets arrested, we're going to deal with that. And we probably wouldn't do the release until the next day. There's no reason to release in the middle of the night unless somebody's life is in danger. And even then you'd call the police. You call your resident security agents. You wouldn't have to waive a Player. And funny enough, the middle of the night, those hours, your roster, the way it works in sports is there's. Your roster's on a computer, on a league wide computer, and you remove a player from your roster, which enables you to add a player to your roster. That's not happening at 3am so there's hours for roster movement. That ain't it. So I have no idea why the Clippers would have done it unless something were so acute, like he tried to grab the controls of the plane and bring it down. I can't even imagine what it could have been for them to have done it that way. You say he deserved better. I say it doesn't even matter what type of player it is. I wouldn't even do it to one of our scrubs, who I hated out of spite because it causes me to have to talk more to the media, which I don't want to do. So that is why what the Clippers did is inexplicable to me.
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Stugats
Can we get a ruling here on what Jonathan Zaslow was saying here from an impartial source? Tell me what you hear here.
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David Sampson
Jimmy Butler in the Heat took the buck soul. What? What is that? What? What is. What is the. What is the hole of the Bucks? What does that mean?
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I don't get that. He took the bottle, Took the Bucks. Oh, he liked their ass. That's funny.
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Stugats
No, it's. It's.
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David Sampson
Come on, let's listen again.
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Dan Le Batard
Let him listen again.
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Stugats
Let's listen again.
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David Sampson
He took the butthole. He took the butt. Wait. Oh, sorry. You said butthole.
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I got it wrong. I'm not. You're nailing it.
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Stugats
No, you're getting it. You're getting everything right. But Jonathan Zaslow claims that he said very clearly. And claims that the sound here vindicates him, that he. Buck's soul.
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David Sampson
Jimmy Butler in the Heat took the buck soul. Well, you skipped. An S says no, no.
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Dan Le Batard
I think every time that it's played, I'm vindicated further. Now it took the.
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David Sampson
Well, now you're just being bitty. But that's funny. That's good. That's good for what you're doing in the show. So proud of you each day showing up and saying that, but it just makes you sound stupid. It took the buckle. Yeah, but maybe that's. That's good. Keep going.
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Dan Le Batard
Little pregnant pause.
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David Sampson
He took the. But you need two S's, buddy. Bucks. So he took the bottle.
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Stugats
You love the movies. And we're gonna review some movie with you here. But before we do that, I saw that. November's box office at the movies was a complete disaster. All 14 of the movies were box office flops. Sydney Sweeney has now had four straight flops. Nicolas Cage is in a movie where he plays Jesus Dad. It cost $10 million to make. It brought in $143,000.
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David Sampson
Stop. Stop. Jesus dad was God. Did I have that wrong?
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Stugats
Nicholas Cage.
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Dan Le Batard
That was Joseph.
- [26:30]
Stugats
It's. It's Nicholas.
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David Sampson
Sorry.
- [26:31]
Stugats
Nicholas Cage.
- [26:32]
Dan Le Batard
I know you're an Old Testament guy. That was.
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David Sampson
I'm with you, David.
- [26:38]
Stugats
But he, He. He took a movie part. Nicholas Cage will do just about anything. He's kind of like Kevin Hart that way. And Nicholas cage had a $10 million movie where he's playing Jesus's dad and it made $143,000 at the box.
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You think what of what is happening with the movie theaters? Because November was an all time bad month for the movie.
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David Sampson
Did he wear, like long gray hair?
- [27:08]
Stugats
Yeah.
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David Sampson
Yes. What does it mean? What's the plot of the movie?
- [27:11]
Stugats
It was a teenage Jesus. It was not baby Billy. It was. It was not baby Billy from Righteous Gemstones, but it was. He's the father of Jesus. We can leave it at that. It did not do well, but it was a historically bad month for movies.
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David Sampson
While you say that, though, I think Zootopia was like a Topic 4 opening weekend of all time.
- [27:31]
Dan Le Batard
I dragged my daughter to see that.
- [27:32]
David Sampson
I was going to do the same this weekend. Is that. Is it worth seeing Zootopia? Do you have to have seen the first one to see this?
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Dan Le Batard
I love the first.
- [27:40]
David Sampson
I would watch the first one. It's good. The first one's good. I'm going to see the second one.
- [27:43]
Dan Le Batard
I'm feeling great.
- [27:45]
David Sampson
Dan. I don't go to. I went to a theater to see.
- [27:49]
One battle after another. And I sat in a recliner for two hours and 40 minutes. And I wore sleeves in such a way where nothing ever touched anything. And so I didn't touch any part of the theater. I didn't leave my seat. I didn't eat any of the movie candy. I brought in my own candy. I brought in my own water. Wow. And I arranged the theater and the seat in that. I didn't see anybody on my horizon. So I wasn't doing what I normally do with my short body where I can't see and I have to look in between people's shoulders. And I. I didn't love the experience. And I know Tom Cruise is sad about that because he wants. And Martin Scorsese, etc. But no theaters. I would. I would go full gamestop Mikey on. On theater stock. I'm just not in. But that doesn't mean movies are failures anymore.
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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David Sampson
You're back.
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
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Don LeBatard Taytas Stugats Taytas this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
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I'm out on the reclining.
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Dan Le Batard
Movie seat.
- [32:25]
David Sampson
Yeah, like, just give me the old school seat. Give me the old school seat.
- [32:29]
Stugats
Why would you be out on the reclining?
- [32:30]
David Sampson
Because I fall asleep.
- [32:31]
Dan Le Batard
But you have the option of either one, you know.
- [32:34]
David Sampson
But I don't want the option because I'm gonna take it. I don't go full because I know I'm out. So what I try to do is like the halfway where the feet are up a little, but you're not really.
- [32:40]
Dan Le Batard
No, you need to be a little bit uncomfortable so you don't fall.
- [32:43]
David Sampson
Just not for me. Give me the old school seat. I think it's totally fine if you fall asleep during a movie. And that's why it's better to watch him at home. Because if you fall asleep, I don't know if you. This is happening to me more than it ever has where I find myself that I have to rewind and watch parts of A movie over again. And that is never. That is brand new to me, Dan. And so now I really can't go to a theater because I'd have to stand up. I had something happen to me this week where I made an issue in public that I probably shouldn't have done. I don't know if we have time to talk about it. I'm trying to change myself and become more tolerant, but I. I checked my daughter out of the emergency room without being discharged. I just walked out.
- [33:25]
Dan Le Batard
Out.
- [33:25]
David Sampson
I literally just walked out and I made a scene. And I'm thinking, I shouldn't have done that.
- [33:29]
Stugats
And that ties into what it is that we're talking about. How beyond your remorse with a theater.
- [33:35]
David Sampson
That if I miss something in a theater, I want to stand up and tell a projector person, hey, play that again. Well, I missed that part. I was watching Wicked and I wanted captions.
- [33:46]
They should have. Like, the 230 showing will have captions.
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Stugats
Well, let's. Let's examine this for a second, because he just brought up something that I had not considered, which is, as the move theater dies, and as many people are saying no, I prefer the convenience of just being able to watch something at home whenever it is that I want. I hadn't considered the fact that you can just fall asleep in a way you can't at a movie theater because you could just rewind it and start over. And the convenience of that. I was just thinking it's people who don't want to go out. You don't want to drag yourself to the theater. But I wonder how high on the list I would put for people in terms of what their comfort is on changed viewing habits, the fact that if they fall asleep during a mov movie, they could just go back and watch more of it because they're in the comfort of their home.
- [34:33]
David Sampson
It's a top five. The ability. The ability to fall asleep, the ability to take a call, the ability to stretch, the ability to eat your own food and whatever order and frequency you want. And then the fifth and most important is the ability to tell people to shut the hell up without worried about being shifted. That's the word. What's the word with the. The thing? Shift. Shiv. The ability to tell someone to shut up without being shiv'd. That's the top five reasons why you avoid a movie theater. That's the number one for me.
- [35:04]
Dan Le Batard
Why are you laughing at him? Seeing Wicked.
- [35:05]
David Sampson
What's that about funny?
- [35:07]
Dan Le Batard
Why so wicked?
- [35:10]
Stugats
How do you think Shiv dispelled if you thought it was shifted. You would do very poorly in prison.
- [35:16]
David Sampson
Not because of that has nothing to do with not knowing the word shiv, I'm afraid. I would assume it's the Hebrew act s. The shiv ed apostrophe d shiv.
- [35:29]
Dan Le Batard
That could be shived.
- [35:30]
Stugats
Is it? I think it's two V's. Is it two V's or one V is shiv to one V? Or take their word for put it on the poll at Le Batard show. Is Shiv1V.
- [35:38]
Dan Le Batard
It's not shaved right. It's two V's just like Buck's soul.
- [35:43]
David Sampson
Is two S's might be our worst poll of all time.
- [35:46]
Stugats
Thank you, Chris. I appreciate that. Go back to editing things with your mouth open. What is the movie you're reviewing? Put it on the poll at Levitar show. Do you respect someone less if they. If when they think they have to have their mouth more?
- [36:01]
Dan Le Batard
Real supportive group of guy. We were all so psyched when Zaz choked on the air. Emotional like. Yes. That's embarrassing. Isn't it great.
- [36:10]
Stugats
What is the movie you're reviewing for us this week, David?
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David Sampson
I feel badly because we're in a great space and we're having fun. But I watched the new documentary on Apple and it's called Come See Me in the Good Light. And it's about two people, two women who are married to each other and they are poets and they do the spoken word. And one of them got incurable cancer. And it was their journey and how they manifested their new journey through the spoken word and through poetry. Incredibly powerful to me. It is a candidate to be nominated for an Academy Award, though it made the short list. I don't know. It'll make the final top five for an actual nomination, which happens next month.
- [36:51]
Stugats
Month.
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David Sampson
But I may be just where my head is. It hit me the right way. Or maybe I was happy to cry about someone else instead of my situation. So all of those things could have been a factor. But it really is a good movie in that you have an opportunity to hear someone manifest their. Their lack of power, their lack of control, their. Their mortality. And they do it in a really articulate way in. In front of huge amounts of people because there's a whole group, and I never knew this existed. There's a whole group of people who go and listen to the spoken word in this way from people like this. And I just never knew that. And so it's called Come see me in the light or Come See me in the good light. And it's really worth your time.
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Stugats
So as you watch something like this, you had gone through a period where you were not watching movies. How long did period last? What was the streak that was broken because you were watching movies every day? And when and how did you go about resuming your somewhat more regular routine so quickly?
- [38:02]
David Sampson
I used to watch a movie every day for decades. And then as of September 12th, my daughter got sick. I stopped able to watch movies. I tried to come back with a comedy and see if that would work. It did not. I've watched one of the first movies I watched back was the Doctor with William Hurt, which is a movie that most of you have never heard of with Elizabeth Perkins. And then I. Now I can't make it through a movie anymore. I get too distracted, which is why I can't go to a theater. I made it through one battle after another by some miracle, but I didn't enjoy the experience. So what I'm doing is watching a lot of movies in. In parts. So like 20 minutes at a time, which isn't great at all, but it's the best I can do with my phone doing what it's doing or appointments that I have to go and deal with. But so the streak is dead. And it's not like the type where you start a brand new streak because I haven't started one yet. So I don't know that I ever will again. But I still. So I never get to say that I watch a movie every day. I used to say that every day on my show.
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Stugats
Dan, how long was that streak? How long was it?
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David Sampson
I started in college when I didn't drink in college. All I did was other stuff. Stuff. And I would watch a movie every day because I didn't like going to classes. And I had that streak going all the way from 1980. I was in Wisconsin, so 1987 until 2025, and it was straight of 38 years where I was able to watch a movie every day. And now it's. Yeah, that's a long streak.
- [39:40]
Stugats
Can you tell me how much respect you lose for Chris Cody when I tell you that he thought the Yankee clipper was a Fort Lauderdale hotel and not Joe DiMaggio?
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David Sampson
Well, I assume that's your show and why I love your show and why it's so successful. There's no way Chris Cody didn't know that Joe DiMaggio's nickname was the Yankee Clipper. Oh, no, I did not. This guy gets it. No, I just assume that he wants to play that role and he's good at it. And I love them. Of course, now I stayed in the Yankee Clipper when I came to Fort Lauderdale for spring break in college, and it was a floor absolute zoo. Just a zoo and. But of course, Cody knew who the great fourth floor.
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Stugats
He did not. Good seeing you, David. Always nice seeing you. Nothing Personal is the name of his podcast. It is excellent. I recommend it to anybody who's listening here. If you want to know more about sports business, if you want to know more about a lot of things that most sports media members cannot tackle, the way that he tackles them. Thank you, David. I appreciate it.
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David Sampson
Thank you, guys.
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Dan Le Batard
Chris Cody, idiot that brought up Zootopia.
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Stugats
Chris Cody.
- [40:47]
Dan Le Batard
It should be called 2Topia too.
- [40:49]
Stugats
We'll get to that later mention. Thank you. I appreciate you letting me talk. So Chris Cody said hello earlier and he brought it up. And I thought. I did think it was funny that he.
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Dan Le Batard
He.
- [41:00]
Stugats
He's wondering whether the college football committee does indeed get together. And every week they just don't know what to do. Like, they're really. They're really wrestling with how it is to make some of these decisions. Because I believe all of these old white men get together and I believe they're getting together and saying, what do we need to do to make this the best television for next week? I believe that's part of the conversation. I don't think it's the entirety of the conversation, but I think it's absolutely part of the conversation. How do we create arguments that will sustain us for the next six weeks? What says college football more than the faces on these people? Is that Ivan Meisel? It is Ivan Mizell.
- [41:51]
Dan Le Batard
Is he a writer? He just wrote a book on Notre Dame, too.
- [41:54]
Stugats
We got to get Ivan Meisel on the show and grill him because I want to find out what's actually going on in these meetings. Ivan Meisel has covered college football for a long time.
- [42:03]
Dan Le Batard
What's going on over here?
- [42:04]
Stugats
And I think he's disgusted by Mike Riley. I think he's disgusted by Jeff Long. I think he's tired of Chris Alton, Troy Dannon. I.
- [42:11]
Dan Le Batard
That all of us, a good man.
- [42:12]
Stugats
Are bothering him at this point because Chris Alt's good. He cares. He cares about college football. And I think he finds what is happening offensive. But do you think they get together and they're just genuinely, like, they're really about this?
- [42:26]
David Sampson
Like, do you think that they have the next week if this happens, this happens? Or do you think it is still a heated debate and they just can't decide? And that. Because I feel like that they have it all planned out and I'm annoyed that. That I don't like because I feel like they are going to do the thing. I mean, Hunter Yurichek did come out and say, you know, for several weeks he always mentions a scenario that didn't even bring up, didn't even mention, even talk about that.
- [42:52]
Dan Le Batard
Seems kind of wild.
- [42:53]
David Sampson
We're not even going to touch. He's lying there.
- [42:55]
Dan Le Batard
He's lying. That's all it is.
- [42:57]
David Sampson
Like it can't be what Dan is saying. Where. How do we make this the best television?
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Stugats
I think it's part of it. I'm saying I think it's part of it. I don't think it. I don't think it's irrelevant.
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David Sampson
Said out loud though. You think that's set out loud?
- [43:07]
Stugats
Yes, I do.
- [43:08]
David Sampson
Of like, how do we make people angry?
- [43:11]
Stugats
How do we create the most conversation? Yes. I don't believe it's something that's ignored. I don't believe they're going there in the spirit of purity and saying, let's not make a made for television.
- [43:20]
David Sampson
I have them as an actual jury that as soon as they agree. All right, that's it. Like, I don't know.
- [43:25]
Stugats
Mike thinks Notre Dame is proper bleeped already.
- [43:27]
Dan Le Batard
Yes. They're screwed. They're absolutely screwed. BYU is not going to play a football game and not move in either direction. They could win. That screws Notre Dame. They could lose. Then it puts Notre Dame and Miami right next to one another. And then we've gone from we don't know about tiers to the notion of pods to they're not in the same tier to they are in the same tier. No more buffer teams. You go toe to toe like they went on the field. I mean, forget Miami. Yes. To make the playoffs. That's a different discussion. The bet to make here is Notre Dame to miss the playoffs. I don't know, man.
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David Sampson
You're way more confident. Confident than I am.
- [44:03]
Dan Le Batard
You're counting on like if you're Notre Dame right now, you have a game between Texas Tech and byu, it's going to affect the rankings.
- [44:10]
David Sampson
What about the Boise game?
- [44:11]
Dan Le Batard
Byu? BYU is not going to stay still. Your one team buffer is not going to be there.
- [44:18]
David Sampson
No, no, but that's why I asked.
- [44:19]
Dan Le Batard
What about the boy? Boise is playing a Mountain west championship against bo. We'll see.
- [44:23]
David Sampson
I don't think. It doesn't matter.
- [44:25]
Dan Le Batard
I don't think it matters what you're hoping for. The only reason that matters is if James Madison loses. Like Boise is irrelevant unless James Madison loses and maybe Duke wins. It could affect it helps Notre Dame check the schedule. It could. But like these teams are so close in strength to schedule. Like to. To cite any metric I can, of course, they're so close in everything. Yet Notre Dame is still two spots ahead of Miami.
- [44:44]
David Sampson
That's what I'm saying.
- [44:45]
Dan Le Batard
They're one spot ahead of Miami right now. If you're Notre Dame, here's what you're rooting for. You're rooting for BYU to say idle somehow so you can keep having that. Which is not going to happen. It's never happened in the history of the cfp. Much like teams that have. That have the same exact record, two things have never happened. A team saying completely still after a conference championship game win or loss, and two teams that have the same exact record and the team that lost a game being ahead of the team that won the game. That's never happened either. So you're hoping that Alabama gets its doors blown off by a head coach that's one and eight all time against Alabama. I'm sorry, folks. Notre Dame is screwed.
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Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
What are you doing here?
- [45:33]
Stugats
Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
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Dan Le Batard
Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out. Especially for one of our great partners.
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Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
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David Sampson
Proximo.
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
Cuervo.