The Big Suey: Domonique's Racist Cat

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Episode Summary: "The Big Suey: Domonique's Racist Cat"

Release Date: April 1, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Guests: Mike Ryan, Dominique Foxworth, Billy Corben, Chris Cote

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1. Accountability in Sports Management (01:14 - 02:55)

The episode opens with a heated discussion about accountability within NFL team management, specifically focusing on Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the Cleveland Browns, and his handling of the Deshaun Watson situation.

Mike Ryan addresses the backlash Haslam received, stating:

"Jimmy Haslam took responsibility and said the buck stops with them essentially for the trade and signing of Deshaun Watson. That hasn't worked out."
(01:34)

Stugotz echoes the sentiment, emphasizing Haslam's accountability:

"We're going to get him back."
(01:33)

However, Dan LeBatard critiques Haslam's apology, arguing that the issue wasn't Watson's performance but his character:

"I was hopeful he'd be bad because I didn't like him as a person. You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for."
(02:28)

The conversation highlights the complexities of owning a sports team and the repercussions of high-profile signings.

2. Draft Prospects: Cam Ward vs. Shador Sanders (02:55 - 15:44)

The hosts shift focus to quarterback prospects, primarily discussing Cam Ward and Shador Sanders, analyzing their potential impact in the NFL.

Dan LeBatard raises concerns about the hype surrounding Cam Ward:

"Cam Ward is the other way to fix it... If you go through his best games, he'll do things in the best games that'll positively make you mad."
(05:55)

Mike Ryan shares his apprehensions about Ward's rapid rise and high expectations:

"He's being compared to Patrick Mahomes... It's about how fast it's gone in the names that they're comparing them to."
(04:22 - 04:40)

Dominique Foxworth provides insights into Shador Sanders' background and potential:

"Shador Sanders is in the phylum... putting him up there... it's a lot of factors around how he ended up at the FCS level."
(05:14 - 08:20)

Stugotz defends the prospects, highlighting their trajectories and potential:

"Cam Ward has bounced around, but... he's the linchpin to turn it around."
(06:48)

The discussion underscores the uncertainty and high stakes involved in drafting quarterbacks, weighing talent against performance consistency.

3. Personal Athletic Anecdotes and Injuries (15:03 - 33:00)

The conversation takes a personal turn as the hosts and guests share their own athletic experiences, injuries, and challenges.

Stugotz humorously recounts his mishap during his son's triple jump practice:

"I'm pretty sure I ruptured a disc in my back trying to triple jump yesterday at my son's practice."
(21:54 - 22:31)

Mike Ryan relates his concerns about aging athletes and the risks of continuing sports activities:

"We're at the age where the Achilles popping age... I had two friends pop them in the last year."
(23:27 - 24:03)

Chris Cote and Billy Corben join in the laughter, sharing their own athletic shortcomings and humorous race stories.

4. The Mystery of Lamar, the "Racist Cat" (33:32 - 42:05)

The highlight of the episode revolves around Mike Ryan's story about his cat, Lamar, leading to humorous and speculative discussions about the cat's behavior.

Mike Ryan narrates the incident:

"We went to Aspen, and while we were away, one of my wife's friends from college stayed at our house. They called saying they hadn't seen Lamar all day for four days. We were nervous but realized Lamar was hiding due to the new occupants."
(33:51 - 35:50)

The hosts humorously debate Lamar's intentions and the cat's possible distrust of new people:

• Stugotz suggests Lamar was wary of "colonizing" white people:

  "Are you guys colonizing?"
  (35:50)

• Billy Corben and Chris Cote chime in with light-hearted theories about cat behavior and ownership, debating whether Lamar truly has racist tendencies or is simply a typical cat reacting to unfamiliar people.

Stugotz further explores the idea of Lamar's behavior reflecting distrust:

"I would have locked your cat into a room the entire time you were gone... He's not gonna be in your house for four days, scared for my life."
(37:15 - 37:38)

The segment serves as a comedic exploration of pet behaviors and the anthropomorphism of animals, tying back to the episode's title.

5. NFL Rule Changes and Polling (39:07 - 42:05)

Shifting back to sports, Dan LeBatard and Stugotz discuss recent NFL rule changes regarding kickoffs, referencing insights from Adam Schefter.

Dan LeBatard summarizes the changes:

"NFL's kickoff proposal was separated into two votes today. One that passed, one that was tabled."
(39:18)

Stugotz critiques the practicality of these changes, humorously suggesting alternatives like "no Newey" for punt calls.

"We call it no Newey where I grew up, man."
(42:02)

Mike Ryan and other hosts engage in playful banter about the feasibility and implications of the proposed rules, blending genuine sports analysis with their signature humor.

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Conclusion

The episode intertwines serious discussions about sports management and draft prospects with personal anecdotes and light-hearted humor about everyday life, exemplified by the tale of Lamar the cat. Through engaging dialogues and candid exchanges, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their guests offer a blend of insightful sports commentary and relatable personal stories, maintaining the show's hallmark of originality and entertainment.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Ryan (01:32): "Jimmy Hasm came out, and it's a rare thing for the owners."
• Dan LeBatard (02:28): "You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for."
• Stugotz (06:48): "Cam Ward is a flawed prospect... but I feel like the Browns fans do deserve someone like Cam Ward."
• Stugotz (37:15): "I would have locked your cat into a room the entire time you were gone."

This episode effectively balances in-depth sports analysis with entertaining personal narratives, providing listeners with both informative content and relatable humor.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Cuervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly.

[Mike Ryan]

Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Stugotz]

I've done it.

[Mike Ryan]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Billy Corben]

This episode of the Dan LeBatard show with Stugots is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Mike Ryan]

Accountability plays. I want to leave that here. You guys can keep that. Andrew Berry has taken a lot of heat recently because of the decision for Deshaun Watson. And I have to give some credit to Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the team that Mike formerly loved, the Cleveland Browns.

[Stugotz]

We're going to get them back.

[Mike Ryan]

You're going to get them back.

[Stugotz]

We're going to get him back.

[Mike Ryan]

Jimmy Hasm came out, and it's a rare thing for the owners. And it's funny to juxtapose what Jimmy Hasm did with what Woody Johnson said at the same time. But Jimmy Hasm took responsibility and said the buck stops with them essentially for the trade and signing of Deshaun Watson. That hasn't worked out. The Woody Johnson quote was about the surveys that were done for the nflpa, and Woody Johnson's organization got an F from the players. He essentially said what that tells me is a little bit fishy. I don't remember the exact terminology, but he said that it was kind of like, totally bogus. Yeah, he said it's totally bogus rather than doing what's apparently. Although there's some reason to argue that Jimmy Haslam is not a standup guy. In this situation, he stood up and said, that's on me. But he didn't.

[Stugotz]

He.

[Mike Ryan]

He didn't let his wife off the hook. So that's on me, indeed.

[Dan LeBatard]

I guess it's one thing to say that he took accountability, which he did, but he took accountability for Deshaun Watson not being good. That's essentially what he's apologizing for to me. When I quit the Browns, I didn't give a shit if he was gonna be good or bad. I was hopeful he'd be bad because I didn't like him as a person. You acquired a garbage human being. That's what I want an apology for, not because it didn't work out for you.

[Mike Ryan]

So if they get Cam Ward, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

That'S how you erase it. That's how you get me back. There's only one way. Well, there's two ways. You can try to find a way to get Baker Mayfield back. That'd be great. I love Baker. Root for the Bucks. I'm a big Baker guy. We all know wrong decision was made there, but Cam Ward is the other way to fix it. Cam Ward, because of the Miami ties. I love Cam Ward, and, yeah, that'd be a great elixir for what's ailing me right now. And I'm likely to support wherever Cam Ward goes to because I'm that big of a fan of his, and I'm going to be rooting for him regardless of even if he's a Baltimore Raven or Pittsburgh Steeler. I throw my support behind Cam Ward. So I know that the Browns fans have been through a lot, and I think Browns fans, even though some of them supported Deshaun Watson, do deserve someone like Cam Ward. And I lived it. I've seen Cam Ward turn a program's fortunes around. I think he's an incredible player. I think Tennessee's kind of figuring that out, though.

[Mike Ryan]

Cam Ward's. I feel like the perception around Cam Ward is going through a bit of the normal quarterback trajectory where last year no one knew him, and this year they're like, oh, he's pretty good. He's probably going to be one of the higher picks. And now it's going through the roof. I'm seeing him compared to the likes at the top of the league or his skill level and talent, and I get why people are excited by it, but, I mean, I'm getting a little, little, little nervous the way they raising.

[Stugotz]

The ceiling on my mind because everyone loves them. It makes me nervous.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not even that. It's about how fast it's gone in the names that they're comparing them to and the expectations that they're creating for him in the situation that he's going into. Because they started putting him with people like Mahomes saying talent wise, he has that type of arm talent, I don't think he was projecting him to be Mahomes, but they're putting him in that category.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, it was Daniel Jeremiah who did. Who did comps for him. And he said that Cam Ward is in the phylum. He's like, obviously not as good of a prospect of the Brett Favre, Caleb Williams, Patrick Mahomes style of player and just putting those names out there. And then you look at Chidor Sanders and he's like Andy Dalton first off.

[Stugotz]

That's a. Not going to tolerate any Andy Dalton slander while I'm on this damn show. Should have been a first round pick, number one.

[Mike Ryan]

Who slandered him?

[Stugotz]

I just, I don't know because it was the tone and then it went down in the tone of his voice.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Patrick Mahomes.

[Billy Corben]

I feel like even you would. Those comparisons are different.

[Stugotz]

They are different comparisons.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're insulted by the Shador.

[Stugotz]

I would rather him just give the information and say, hey, he compared him to these guys and he compared Shador to this guy and just walk away from it. It was like there was a comedic timing. It was well delivered.

[Billy Corben]

It was well delivered.

[Mike Ryan]

I was going to. I was going to ask Charlie.

[Stugotz]

It was unnecessary.

[Mike Ryan]

I was going to ask Charlie to redeliver it. Redeliver it. Can you redeliver it in a way that's not offensive to Hawk or Andy Dalton?

[Stugotz]

I would just like to get my information, please. I would not like monotone Andy Dalton.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Who should have been a first round pick is why Shador Sanders is 18th on Daniel Jeremiah's board.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, yeah, that's moving him up. We're good.

[Stugotz]

I like him.

[Mike Ryan]

I like him.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Cam Ward I'll probably surprise you with Take. Kim Ward is a flawed prospect. He's not. He's not perfect. If you go through his best games, he'll do things in the best games that'll positively make you mad. He's a type of guy that a GM will fall in love with, but also the type of guy that might get a GM fired. And I think, look, Cam Ward had a special season last year and yeah, I think he's going to be a great pro. But also, if this edition of Cam Ward was in last year's draft, he's probably maybe the Fourth quarterback taken off the board. You can even argue fifth, considering how Bo Nix finished last season. I think it says more about the current state of the draft class that Cam Ward is being talked about. And because he's going to be number one or talked about as a number one pick, then of course, the comparisons of Patrick Mahomes are going there. But if he's talked about his fifth quarterback off the board, you're not hearing those comps.

[Stugotz]

I feel really good about Cam Ward, man. I feel good more than anything. I mean, yes, he looks good on tape. He has the arm, Arm strength. He. He throws at the certain arm angles like Daniel Jeremiah said. And I love Daniel Jeremiah's. Like, I really trust his opinion on the quarterback. Guys. What I love most about Ward is like the opposite of what you expect for guys that have been in and out of the portal. Right. Because in this new day and age where you're going to have a quarterback that's played for two, three, four programs, you're going to have a lot of questions about a. Their personality, why they're doing that, what's important to them, and them not being able to be stable in any one place. Cam Ward has also bounced around, but if you watched him, he jumped up at every level. And it felt more like in an effort to prove who he was to everybody else and himself. And when you look at the success he's had at every single stop, I mean, you can't help but be impressed. This is a guy who will go into a program and has such a confidence in himself that he is the linchpin to turn it around.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And don't you think the fact that this is a guy who he started at Incarnate Word, his upside is the fact that he hasn't been coached in a major program like Shador Sanders was being coached by elite position coaches since he was a kid. This was part of Deion's plan to have his NFL quarterback. Cam Ward is sort of backed into this where his talent and his elastic arm are so exceptional that, like, yeah, his feet, they're really sloppy. I mean, I remember the first time I talked to Dominique about this. He's like, he does not look like an NFL quarterback in the pocket. And like, the upside of that is he hasn't been coached like an NFL quarterback for his entire career. He ran the wing T in high school.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He had under a thousand passing yards as a senior in high school. He then set the NCAA passing record.

[Mike Ryan]

It's unbelievable. So, like so many quarterback draft, there we go. Through different things. And as we talk about the evolution of the league, we go through different things that we value when we're. When we're drafting. At one point, the thing that was most valuable or considered most value for a quarterback was his level of whiteness. No longer a deciding factor, or. It doesn't seem like a deciding factor. Then we went into, like, accuracy was a thing at one point where you look for that more than anything else. Pocket presence. And now it seems like potential. Like, potential is the word that gets you excited. And Cam Ward might be the best prospect for that because of what Charlie mentioned. Like, he played in the wing T, then he went incarnate.

[Billy Corben]

Word.

[Mike Ryan]

And then he goes to Washington State, and he gets better and better. And so you can see that he's already on a ridiculous trajectory. And coaches see that, get excited. They got so excited last year with Eddie Richardson, and he wasn't showing that trajectory. He just looked freaky out there. They're like, hey, we go figure it out. And with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and guys like that, everyone thinks they. They're not going to have Trey Lance. They think they're going to get Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.

[Stugotz]

And you know what? I also think Shador fits in that bucket as well. Now, obviously, there's conversation around Shador, and they're like, oh, he's arrogant. He's. Yes, he is a confident dude. Like, he's the son of Deion Sanders. You know what I mean? I'm short. My dad is short. That's what. That's how it works. You kind of get what you're given. But at the same time, he also went and performed at hbcu. And I remember when he went to Colorado, people weren't like, oh, he's going to go here and crush. He's going to go in here and be one of the best quarterbacks in the nation. And he also did that as well. And so there's obviously a lot more factors around Chador and how he ended up at the FCS level. But I will say I feel this, like, very similar to him, the Cam Ward, that there's a trajectory there where they're all still climbing. I don't think it's been a plateau.

[Mike Ryan]

Is there any bias that you need to declare when talking about because you got a lot of friends.

[Stugotz]

What is that supposed to mean?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just saying that you watch it. A different player that I watch it, if that's your assessment of Shador Sanders. So I'm trying to figure out you and Dion Homies or what is.

[Stugotz]

What is. What the hell is this supposed to be?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm saying that you established yesterday this.

[Stugotz]

Was your strategy on game too.

[Mike Ryan]

No, you established.

[Stugotz]

Start a riff with your teammate. This is what. This is what you wanted to do.

[Mike Ryan]

Take it back. I take it back.

[Stugotz]

Take it back. Take it back.

[Mike Ryan]

Take.

[Stugotz]

You wanted to go Kobe Shaq today. That's what you woke up this morning and said.

[Mike Ryan]

Hear me say, I take it back. I take it back.

[Stugotz]

I don't think you can do that.

[Mike Ryan]

You can take it back. You can take.

[Stugotz]

We're on a public forum. They're all looking at us like, oh, no.

[Mike Ryan]

I. I just.

[Stugotz]

Is he going to flip the table? I might.

[Mike Ryan]

I just. This a heavy table. You flip the table? Yeah, flip this table.

[Chris Cote]

The top's not attached though, so you got to be careful with that table. Like, if you lean on it too much, it'll flip over.

[Stugotz]

He was here more. He would know that. Be careful if he was in the gym when I was in the gy every day early putting up shots.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is funny though, the discussion around Cam Ward because it would relatively be. Look, we're not talking about Shador as much because he's consensus second quarterback being taken off. And I reached out to someone in NFL scouting and I asked him, like, how do you think the draft would go if this year's game Ward was plopped in last year? He said, caleb still goes number one even though he was betrayed by coaching staff. The upside is still there. Then you go Daniels. And this, this particular person said, Kayeward's three. And I found that surprising ahead of the likes of Drake May and Bo Nix. I understand over Bo Nix, but Drake May, I feel like in terms of measurables, in terms of like what an NFL front office feels safer with because Cam Ward is risky because of the footwork, because of his ability to kind of freestyle a little bit and hold the ball a little bit longer to make things happen. I think Drake May would be a safer pick, but this guy had Cam Ward in round three.

[Mike Ryan]

So where'd you get that information from?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not gonna reveal my sources.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I mean, just general.

[Stugotz]

What is this guy doing, Mike? What is he doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but this is a high ranking scout in the NFL.

[Chris Cote]

Look at me, Louie.

[Mike Ryan]

That's all I was doing.

[Stugotz]

I tried to set up a Louie.

[Mike Ryan]

Just try to set up a Louie. Just try to set up a Louie.

[Stugotz]

I like a Louie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. All right. I like him.

[Mike Ryan]

The Cam Ward projection is one thing. The Shador Sanders thing is Like, I understand the reason why anyone would draft Shador Sanders. So going back and looking at Shador Sanders film from this year, one thing that I realized is it was a lot more short passes than I remembered. It's a lot more like, in my mind, and I think that this could happen is like, I remember Shador throwing big passes in that game against Kansas. And then I went back and watched it on a. On a flight a couple months ago or a couple weeks ago and was like, ooh, doing a lot of screening over there. You're getting that thing out your hands awfully fast, big dog. And then I'm looking forward to make these big, thrilling down the field passes that I imagined, and they just weren't on the tape that I watched nearly as much. And that's that. That's the thing I think that scares people is they don't want to be in a situation that so many quarterbacks or so many teams find themselves in. Is as much as we want to focus on how important it is to build the team, we want to look at the Eagles. It's like everybody can do that. You don't have to have a perfect quarterback. One thing that makes it easier for you, that cleans up a bunch of mistakes. You got holes on defense. You know, it's pretty nice to have a quarterback and two awesome receivers, and then you can be competitive in every. Every game.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I don't. I don't think you're wrong. And I think I've watched maybe again, admittedly, maybe three, like, all 20 twos of. Of Shador, but when I watch him. And the same with Ken Moore. Cause like Mike said, there's things that pop up that you don't love, like that he's not developed on. There will still be development for both of these guys. And, like, I also have to consider, like, where they've been. I do. Not that it's been a bad thing that he's played for his father, but it's a different situation. Like, you're not out there on the island. I have a son as well, and I know, yo, sometimes I got to just drop him off and let them get out there and just figure it out. Otherwise there will be always a crutch there. And I feel like in some of Shador's development, you see that in this film, which I do feel like in the right situation and with the right coaches, he will develop his way out of because of the ability he has. It's like when I'm scouting high school receivers and I see A guy from South Florida. And then I see a guy from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I see them in their camp tape, and I see one kid who's catching the ball at camp in Fort Wayne, Indiana. He's just running back to the huddle instead of running up field, which is like, hey, you got to do this. But then I see a guy in South Florida do it. Knowing the culture down here, knowing the football culture, knowing, like, what you're exposed to at such an early age, then I'm more like, oh, that's a decision for you not to do that, versus this guy doesn't have the information. And when I look at Shador's, like, downside, I feel like the situation he's in in some ways has capped, like, the best version that we could probably expect when we put on the game field.

[Mike Ryan]

I feel you. He. The. The tools, though, that he has or doesn't have, I think is what scares people off. There was a. There was a time when we would be scared away from the toolsy quarterback. That seems to be in vogue now. Everyone wants the toolsy quarterback because they all believe that they can turn Josh Allen or turn him into Lamar Jackson, which obviously you're probably not going to. But it's worth the risk to take because if you have a quarterback like that, as we saw particularly in Buffalo, they changed that roster around him many different ways. You know where they find themselves every year in contention. So that's what it comes out to. And I guess there. There is really no debate between Shador and Cam. We're creating that. There's nobody. There's no draft analyst out there who's like, hey, one or two. Shador, Cam.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's interesting is we did this exercise with Cam. Where would this year's Cam be drafted in? Last class. It's real scary for Shador. If you take this year, Shador, and you drop them in last year's class. That's not. That's a guy that's being talked about going third overall. That's probably not a first round talent with last year's class. Weather is starting to warm up. Regular season starting to wind down. Games of consequence in sports starting to ramp up. I know what you're gonna need by your side. It's by my side already. Miller Lite. Yeah, that's right. I'm making my springtime. I'm Miller time. I'm making my sports time. Miller time. Going to a car race Miller time. Gonna see some tennis Miller time. Gonna chill in the backyard with some friends and make some memories. Miller Time I love Miller Lite because it's got taste that I know I can depend on. No games, no gimmicks. It's that simple, folks. It's just a great beer. For people who like beer, Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than the other Lite beers. It's got simple ingredients and at just 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces, Miller Time is always a good time. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, WI 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Hey audience, you know it's that time of year where everyone is debating who the number one pick is going to be. Well, let me tell you something that is undebatable. Who the world's number one vodka is. That is Smirnoff. And as fun as it is to debate whether or not the team with the number one pick goes pass rusher, wide receiver, quarterback, one thing that we all know is we're going with Smirnoff as our number one vodka pick. Isn't that right, Dano?

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard Smart stugats.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

You mentioned your son is a really good athlete and I ran into you at the Junior Olympics because your son's an awesome athlete. He gets that from you.

[Stugotz]

I'd love to take all the credit. My wife was a really good long jumper. Like a better long jumper than I.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you run track?

[Stugotz]

I was on the team. I'm like, Mike, I was there.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like the accountability.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not soul and valor. I was around. I wasn't helping.

[Stugotz]

I was a. I was like a high jumper, something like five, two, you know, wasn't getting a lot of points there. I did triple jump. I did long jump. And I would have these spurts of athleticism where they would, you know.

[Mike Ryan]

Was your school, like, a particularly great sports school?

[Stugotz]

Like, I'm shocked.

[Dan LeBatard]

Billy was a collegiate track star.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I want. I want. It sounds like he was on the track.

[Chris Cote]

It sounds like he played.

[Stugotz]

I was on the track.

[Chris Cote]

Many events on the track.

[Stugotz]

I did a lot. Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

I was there doing every event.

[Stugotz]

I. I'm. But like.

[Mike Ryan]

So you were good. You're just being humble.

[Stugotz]

I'm not being humble. It's that the expectation is. If you didn't know anything about me, what would you say you'd be like? Oh, you were the 100 meter dash guy. I say you were crushing it. No, I was on the 4x1 team.

[Billy Corben]

You underachieved in track?

[Stugotz]

I didn't figure it out till I got to college.

[Mike Ryan]

So were you an anchor? Were you an anchor on the 4x1?

[Stugotz]

I was the third leg.

[Mike Ryan]

Whoa.

[Stugotz]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, it was.

[Mike Ryan]

I am stunned.

[Stugotz]

It was bad. It was bad. I mean, I ran the hundred twice in high school. My best. I ran it as a freshman and I ran a 13 6, which is not great. That's an average player. I like your. Now you're a better teammate. You're a better teammate than you were earlier. I appreciate that, but in my senior year, I ran 11. Three. Three.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

Was my. You know. But that's not like. My son is in seventh grade, and he runs a 12. 5 in the hundred, so.

[Mike Ryan]

So what about your jumps? You were. You're a great jumper, right?

[Stugotz]

I was. I was solid. I jumped 20ft once. Your son had practiced yet, has he. What?

[Mike Ryan]

Has he had practice yet for this year?

[Stugotz]

Like today?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. I mean, like. No, it was a weird day today.

[Billy Corben]

Weird way of asking.

[Stugotz]

It was a weird way. Okay. Yeah, no, he's had. He's had practice.

[Mike Ryan]

So the reason why it's a weird way of asking. The reason why it's a weird way of asking is because for the last two minutes, just talking about track and talk about sons. Well, hold on, Hawk, earlier in the.

[Billy Corben]

Day, your son had breakfast.

[Mike Ryan]

Hawk had a great time at his son's practice yesterday.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had. We had practice yesterday. Okay. You were trying to team me up. I didn't want to talk about it. It's not a good thing. So now I don't feel like you're a good teammate anymore. All right? So I'm pretty sure I ruptured a disc in my back trying to triple jump yesterday at my son's practice. And that's what we're trying. That's the story we're trying to get to, because I didn't even get through the triple jump. And for those that don't know, triple jump is three jumps. You could probably figure that out. The first one is kind of a skip, and then you jump to the next. So you jump, land on the same foot, jump to the next foot, and then into the pit. So I jumped. I just didn't warm up. I was like, yo, I did this in high school. I was trying to give an example. I jumped and I was, like, too far, like, from the board that I jumped from. And I'm like, let me just shut this down right now. Let me just.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You were too athletic.

[Chris Cote]

It was too big.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is that what you were trying to allude to?

[Stugotz]

It felt that way.

[Chris Cote]

He was the best seventh grader out there.

[Stugotz]

That's the look at me, Louie situation. Those seventh graders will get me, Louie.

[Dan LeBatard]

When Miami lost to byu, we were too fast.

[Stugotz]

I was like, yo, this is the board y'all jump from. So anyway, I tried to shut it down in abort mission, and that's where it all went downhill, because that's a lot harder than it looks. The landing is always the hard part. And I just came down really hard. So much that it shot a pain up my back and my head kind of just wanted to rattle things and I immediately got a headache. And now I'm pretty sure I need to go to a chiropractor.

[Mike Ryan]

I recognize that urgent as a former athlete myself, whenever I'm around somebody doing sports stuff, something in me is like, hey, just go ahead, give it a shot. Just go a little, little something. Give him a little run, a little crossover. But it's dangerous because, dude, I had so many friends. This is. We're at the age where the Achilles. Popping age.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Like early 40s. We this when they start popping. I had two friends pop them in the last year. See Achilles just out here popping. I went skiing and that's all I was concerned about. Well, my son's 12 year old who really likes to ski. And 12 year old boys, rich, they make terrible decisions. And so I was really concerned about him and my friend's son, who's 6, who's also a boy who makes terrible decisions. They just try to skate around into ridiculous things or ski around and up mountains and stuff. So I was worried about that.

[Stugotz]

And also tearing your Achilles.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, popping something. I mean, everything gets brittle at this age. I was sore as shit. But you know what? I ain't popped nothing. So it was a win.

[Stugotz]

Well, I don't ever like, and we talked about this. It's. I know, I hear these stories, right? Everyone knows when you get a certain age, don't do certain things, you will get hurt. Like, you gotta just pass on it. But the urge.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it's in there. Never mind.

[Stugotz]

It's in there. And also it's like the fear is the thing is never as pronounced as the stories that people tell. Like, I knew I shouldn't have did it. So yesterday I was like, there was like a little piece that was like, don't jump. But it didn't quite feel as dangerous as it does in the moment. The way my back is.

[Chris Cote]

Were you trying to show off for the seventh graders? Like, why couldn't you just go like 70% speed?

[Stugotz]

Well, it was like there's like a line, right? Because it's like, oh, let me, let me dial it back. And then I don't make the pit. Well. Yeah. And that's like the. So my going hard was not in an effort to show off. It was like you got to hit a bare minimum to not look like you're old.

[Chris Cote]

I get it. Because like what you were telling us is like a seventh grader could beat you as a Freshman in a race.

[Stugotz]

You get it?

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't say no.

[Chris Cote]

So, like, now you don't want to kind have the seventh grader be like.

[Stugotz]

I'm probably closer to what I was as a freshman in high school than I was as a senior. Yeah, in the moment.

[Mike Ryan]

Billy, I've seen you race before where you got it in you, too, where you walk around. You say that, but somebody call you out, they look at you funny. You like, hey, let me just line it up. Y'all must have forgot.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, you know what I don't do? Like. Cause you're talking about being older. Trampoline parks. Not a thought in my mind.

[Stugotz]

Those feel safe. Those aren't safe.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Stugotz]

Whoa.

[Chris Cote]

They're safe for, like, age appropriate attendees. Like, I've gone, like, two or three times, and I've left pretty unscathed. And I feel like I've had to retire from those. Like, I don't even want to go back. When my kids are of the age of going to them. I know I'm gonna go down that path. I'm like, I could backflip. And then that's when I end up, you know, not walking anymore.

[Stugotz]

What events did you do in college, Billy?

[Chris Cote]

I just did pole vault.

[Stugotz]

That's pretty sick.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, but I'm slow is the thing. Like, that's the problem. You have to be faster for pole vault.

[Mike Ryan]

Aren't you the fastest person on the show? Right?

[Chris Cote]

Well, no, Chris, that's. There's a misconception there. Chris beat me in the last race.

[Billy Corben]

Now, that was a long time ago.

[Chris Cote]

Now, that was a long time ago, so I'm not gonna be talked into racing down the street. But here's the thing.

[Billy Corben]

I'm going out on top.

[Chris Cote]

So Chris made me on the last race, but, like, if we look at the tape, the finish line changed, and I'm a notoriously bad starter also, like, I can catch up to people, but I get. I have a bad first step. I don't have a good jump off.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not encouraging anybody to race. As I talk about how we're all at the age of popping Achilles.

[Stugotz]

Swear to God, I'll do it.

[Mike Ryan]

I know.

[Stugotz]

I swear. I could so easily be talking to something athletic.

[Mike Ryan]

I got. I know that feeling.

[Billy Corben]

Dominique, we could get you two races.

[Mike Ryan]

We could get you to race.

[Chris Cote]

Well, you could definitely beat Dominique. We know that.

[Stugotz]

I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

We can beat Dominique.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We have to look at combine numbers. Are we going to have to look at combine numbers?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, we don't need to race. We did A combine. We did combine numbers. You're not talking me into popping nothing out here today. I jogged yesterday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sounds like a scared.

[Billy Corben]

Look at me trying to catch Billy here.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I did watch Dominique and Billy just.

[Stugotz]

Giving the jog as I ubered Bolt.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's all right, Dominic. You know you're scared to race Hawkins. It's all good.

[Stugotz]

If you get me too much to train. Yeah, I feel like I can pop a really good 100 meter baseball.

[Mike Ryan]

If you give me two months, I probably will still sit here and be scared to race Hawk. Cause I'm not scared of losing the Hawk unless y'all putting some money on the line. I'm scared of what's going to happen to my bones, joints, and liggies. I ain't here to pop no liggies.

[Chris Cote]

When did this happen to you? Because I thought I heard stories of you racing people in alleys in Washington, at the office.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that happened. That's. I got to fight. I got to fight the urge. It's still. So we're not at my son's flag football game. My son had a good game, and I told my parents about it on the way home, and I've been sending my parents, like, clips of him, and my parents, like, I think he's better than you. If y'all don't get the F out of here. I would have gave that kid. And that's the feeling that comes into me when I'm around people doing athletic things or people talking about sports things. It's like, man, why don't y'all stop with this foolishness?

[Stugotz]

Like, I don't. Let me show you what's up. Have you forgotten what I was in my prime?

[Mike Ryan]

And that's what.

[Stugotz]

Also, my son ain't compared to me.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, one review, but I ride on that fool.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Dominique did lose a three cone drill to former Levitard show producer old Monty Charlie.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a ball facelight in a hallway.

[Dominique Foxworth]

In an ABC hallway, there were cones put out.

[Stugotz]

He looks like he's telling me there were cones.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. Ball, face, line.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I have a photo.

[Mike Ryan]

Bald face, lie.

[Stugotz]

Photo of a race is crazy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It is a video. And then there is a freeze frame of. Of the crossing of the finish line.

[Stugotz]

Were you guys going at the same time?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. I thought it was like you went, then he went. You both timed it?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, it's not this.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Charlie, Charlie. Different.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It was a fast Charlie.

[Stugotz]

Fast Charlie.

[Chris Cote]

Wait, you have the video of this? So theoretically we could watch the video?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I mean, we can make our own determination of who won. But you're saying you won't. You will no longer engage. Absolutely athletic.

[Mike Ryan]

It was that. That was the same year where I had a producer at what was then called the Undefeated Now Andscape who said that he could score a point on me, Tony, in one on one basketball. No, it wasn't Tony. It was Monas. And no, it wasn't Monas.

[Chris Cote]

This is important though.

[Mike Ryan]

You should.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Really pop down in who it was.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Undefeated producer Tony.

[Billy Corben]

That was our Tony.

[Mike Ryan]

It wasn't your Tony. It was another guy.

[Chris Cote]

Just score one one point against you. That doesn't seem that hard.

[Stugotz]

How it starts. See, this is how it starts.

[Mike Ryan]

This is that type of disrespect is.

[Chris Cote]

That one point is.

[Mike Ryan]

Well.

[Stugotz]

Well, tell him.

[Chris Cote]

Well, by accident it could happen.

[Stugotz]

I could just throw it over my head.

[Chris Cote]

Not me. I wouldn't.

[Mike Ryan]

The thing.

[Billy Corben]

I could score a point.

[Mike Ryan]

He was. He was taller than me too. And he was like, I mean, I'll score one. And I was like, no, you won't. Like I'll score 11 before you score one. And I was trying to explain to him the difference. Like, you're not faster than me, you're not stronger than me, you're not quicker than me, you will not get a good shot. And like, I'm not a great basketball player. But you're not going to get a good shot. You're going to have to hit a bad shot before I hit 11 shots. And that's. Yeah, I beat him 11 to 0.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that sounds about.

[Mike Ryan]

And he was like, I play basketball every day. And I was like, I don't. But what you have to understand is just.

[Stugotz]

I'm a lunatic. Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

What does not Tony look like, just out of curiosity?

[Stugotz]

Like regular Tony?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, Tony wouldn't get a bucket on me either.

[Chris Cote]

Don't say that. When he's around, he'll show you his game tape over and over again.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I might have a list for later in the week when Tony's here of the top five players that I think Tony thinks he's better than basketball. Could beat in one on one. But he wants to be Tony a good basketball player. He thinks so.

[Chris Cote]

If you ask him.

[Stugotz]

Did he try out for fiu?

[Billy Corben]

That was football. He tried to be a quarterback, but they didn't let him use the football.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

So it was like he tried shadow passes.

[Stugotz]

Who tries to walk on as a quarterback who's not a quarterback? That's crazy. He probably could have did some H.

[Chris Cote]

Back Though he's got never ending comp confidence.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

He is the mvp.

[Stugotz]

The number one thing you need as an athlete.

[Chris Cote]

The well talent too.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a good basketball player.

[Billy Corben]

He's got a good shot.

[Stugotz]

Does he?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

He's a good basketball in his face.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean he's not. He's not a pro by any.

[Chris Cote]

He plays against 65 year old Ron McGill. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Does he win?

[Billy Corben]

I mean I saw he shared on Instagram like an MVP of like the Tuesday night.

[Mike Ryan]

Tuesday night.

[Billy Corben]

I'm not.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony's got a shot.

[Chris Cote]

They don't just hand those out.

[Billy Corben]

I'm giving the context.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony's the best basketball player here by far. Wide margin. Yeah, I know that. That, I know that. That's not a great brag.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Not the professional athletes.

[Stugotz]

I just want to get him out there and see what he's made of. I don't. I'm not saying I'm better than him or I could beat him.

[Billy Corben]

Could he beat Steve Williams?

[Stugotz]

Want to get him out there? Could he whoop Steve Williams ass? Is the question that, that Nick is really wondering with all of this.

[Mike Ryan]

That's all I want to know. Can you fight Steve? Can you fight? I mean I heard the accent. I was like he probably played rugby. I bet he's a tough guy. See if I can get him into some tough guy talk. Eh, probably not.

[Stugotz]

We gotta get Tony out here to defend himself.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I, I think Tony can't.

[Stugotz]

Uh. Oh, oh.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the picture. Here we go. Let's go to it. This.

[Stugotz]

Who is falling?

[Mike Ryan]

That's me falling.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh no.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Zoom in on the foot though. Here.

[Stugotz]

You just saved your Achilles by releasing that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you wearing like early 2000c maddens?

[Stugotz]

No, I think they were those horse huffs or whatever. Why are they that shape?

[Dan LeBatard]

What is that?

[Mike Ryan]

That is octagon.

[Chris Cote]

Is that at the end of the race? Why are you falling back backwards?

[Mike Ryan]

We did a three cone drill and I was ahead by so much I decided to backpedal. And the one thing that I'm not capable of doing at this age is backpedal.

[Stugotz]

One thing you were paid millions of dollars to do.

[Mike Ryan]

That was years ago too. That's like seven years ago. Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, Hawk points it out accurately. You'd think that'd be muscle memory for.

[Stugotz]

I think of all the parts of the race to be like I'm gonna go into the thing that someone literally made me a millionaire to be really good at. And that's where it all fell apart.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep. The back pedal.

[Stugotz]

That's crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

The overconfident backpedal cost me the win. I still think I won. Charlie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Those clogs. What was that? What kind of shoe?

[Stugotz]

What year was it? And we could figure it out. Is it like those Steve Madden bowling shoes that were popular?

[Mike Ryan]

Like, I'll tell you what it was. It's when Nike and Cole Hahn merged. And so I had.

[Stugotz]

You had the access to all the.

[Mike Ryan]

Spending of the Nike. I had a lot of Nike bucks from being a N. Nike athlete. And I was like, all right. Yeah. So that's. That's what it was. They were leftover Cole Han Nikes. And it was like, hey. And that was before we all.

[Stugotz]

Athletic dress shoes, man. I love it.

[Mike Ryan]

It was before we just all wore tennis shoes at all times now. It was like, those were the most comfortable type of work shoes you could wear back in whenever that was.

[Stugotz]

That completely makes sense.

[Mike Ryan]

I. I told you guys that we're gonna get to my racist cat, so I didn't know. I'm gonna take it back. He's not racist. His name's Lamar. He's not racist.

[Stugotz]

Sounds like you're.

[Mike Ryan]

He just has a healthy trepidation of white folk. Okay, so we went to Aspen, and while we were away, one of my wife's friends from college asked to stay at our house while they did some work at her house. So we were like, sure, fine. Go ahead. You can stay there. She's white. Her husband's white. Their kid's white.

[Stugotz]

Mm.

[Mike Ryan]

They get there, and they love cats, and the cat's there, and they called and was like, we haven't seen the cat all day. They called the next day. We haven't seen the cat all day. Four days, they say, we haven't seen the cat. So we're all kind of nervous, like, oh, they must have let him out by mistake while they were coming in.

[Chris Cote]

How big's your house?

[Mike Ryan]

It's a house.

[Stugotz]

Come on, man.

[Billy Corben]

You see, these cats can hide, man.

[Chris Cote]

You know how much Cohen's cost plus Nike? I mean, are you crazy?

[Stugotz]

Go look up the cost of Cohen in 2011. It's called that will tell you how big his house is.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's called Foxworth Man Manor.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not called that at all. It's. You know how sneaky cats are. They can.

[Billy Corben]

What's the name of the cat, Just for context.

[Mike Ryan]

Lamar.

[Stugotz]

Lamar.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, that's right. You said that.

[Mike Ryan]

Steve Mar.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, I'm gonna leave.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry about that, Steve Martin. No, no, no, no. You good, you good. Everybody makes mistakes.

[Stugotz]

We've all made Mistakes. Dan would have sent you away, but.

[Mike Ryan]

We'Re not gonna do that. Yeah, no, no. We're inclusive around here.

[Stugotz]

True team leaders here. You're gonna be better at the end of this show for that.

[Mike Ryan]

So we're all worried. And my wife and I are like, man, what are we gonna do? The kids are gonna be so upset. The cat's lost, probably dead somewhere. We get home flying. It's like, he just don't stink yet. Like, I don't know. Or he ran out into the woods. So we get home at, like, midnight from flying, and we walk in the house, and the first thing my son does is call for Lamar. Lamar. He doesn't know. We didn't tell him. He just, like, excited to get back to see his pet.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And so my wife and I look at each other like, oh, cringing. Like, oh, we going. We just going to try to go to bed tonight and. And talk about it in the morning. He's Lamar. The cat's in the house for four days. They're in the house, and he's hiding. And that's the only conclusion we came to. He didn't trust him. He was like, I don't know what y'all doing here.

[Stugotz]

I don't.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you guys colonizing?

[Stugotz]

Has he ever seen white people?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I mean, spent his whole life in your house?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, He's. We got him from white people.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

After that, that might. Those might have been the last.

[Stugotz]

Do we know how those white people treated him?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, we don't know. That might be it.

[Stugotz]

Does he think it was those same white people?

[Mike Ryan]

They're coming to take me back.

[Stugotz]

No, I like it.

[Mike Ryan]

Take me back.

[Billy Corben]

This sounds like just cat behavior. Like, cats are weird, man.

[Stugotz]

This is first cat ever. I can almost guarantee you he's never had a cat before. This.

[Billy Corben]

Cats are weird, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, first cat, just what they do.

[Billy Corben]

They know the voices of the people they care about, and if it's not one of those voices, they're good.

[Chris Cote]

So the cat eat, like, just sneak out and eat. Like, when they weren't paying attention.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what happened is.

[Billy Corben]

And the food was disappearing, but they were still worried about the cat.

[Mike Ryan]

But no.

[Billy Corben]

Who's eating this food?

[Mike Ryan]

No, the husband. So it was. We put out enough food, so it was too much for them to, like, tell the difference. But the husband said that he would hear stuff, and he just felt like he was there, but he just chalked it up to, like, maybe creaking in the house late at night. And the cat was just hiding. Came out, got his food, would do his business at night while they were sleeping, and they'd go back to whatever corner in the house he was hiding in.

[Stugotz]

You know what I think it is?

[Mike Ryan]

What is it?

[Stugotz]

Cause this is what I would do if I had to stay over your house. Cause something was going on in my house, and your cat was there. I admittedly am not a cat person. Yeah, I would have locked your cat into a room the entire time you were gone.

[Mike Ryan]

But you wouldn't have also told me he was missing.

[Stugotz]

I would have. Just in case. You know, maybe you have security. Something that would have seen some portion or something would have happened or went wrong in that time. I'd have been like, oh, he was in that closet the whole time. We must have shown. So then right before you come back, you let it out, and then it's voila, racist cat. When actuality not cat people.

[Mike Ryan]

We locked the cat away.

[Stugotz]

I locked your cat away. Cause I'm not gonna be in your house for four days, scared for my life, because I don't know if your cat's gonna claw my eyeballs out. I would enjoy this mansion by myself.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not a cat person either. I've become a cat person. But the kids wanted a pet, and my wife is allergic. So we consider getting a hypoallergenic dog. But like kids at this age, it's enough work. You know what I'm not doing? Adding another heartbeat. Another heartbeat to the house that I have to be responsible to. Responsible for. So you get a cat. Cats take care of their own business. You don't have to deal with too many cats.

[Billy Corben]

When you say you've become a cat person, you just pet it on the head now a little bit.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I don't even do that.

[Chris Cote]

He just owns a cat.

[Stugotz]

I've not tortured the cat, which makes him a cat person.

[Mike Ryan]

I cleaned the litter box. He likes me the most, I guess probably because I'm the only one that pet cleans the litter box and feeds him and do those sorts of things, give him medicine when he's. I do those things.

[Stugotz]

That's probably what he likes more than anything.

[Mike Ryan]

He follows me around. The funny thing is he doesn't like to be pet. So, like, he follows me around and sits wherever I'm sitting. And if I ever try to reach over to me, like, that's why y'all cool, bro.

[Stugotz]

I mean, would you like if the.

[Chris Cote]

Cat just starts petting you? Leave, like, touching me for.

[Billy Corben]

I don't like it when cats purr.

[Stugotz]

What are You a cat person? You have cats?

[Mike Ryan]

I have.

[Billy Corben]

My parents have a cat.

[Stugotz]

Anybody else here have cats?

[Billy Corben]

I don't like it when it purrs. Like, what's he really thinking? I don't think he's happy.

[Stugotz]

What's this really about?

[Billy Corben]

He wants me to think he's happy. He's not happy.

[Stugotz]

I'm not a cat person. I've never had. I'm not. I shouldn't say. I'm not a cat person. I've never had a cat. I don't have dogs either.

[Mike Ryan]

You're not a pet person?

[Stugotz]

I'm not a pet person.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you.

[Stugotz]

You gotta realize dogs in my community.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

It was a scary thing, man. Cause it wasn't like.

[Dan LeBatard]

Breaking NFL news from the Breakers.

[Stugotz]

Thank you for getting.

[Dan LeBatard]

Adam Schefter has sent out. NFL's kickoff proposal was separated into two votes today. One that passed, one that was tabled. Number one, the football now moves to the 35 after a touchback that passed. Number two, no vote at this time on the onside kick modification. It will pick back up at the May meeting.

[Stugotz]

So why ever return a kick?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, the justification for moving it back is they're trying to get. Or moving it up. Are they trying to get kickoffs out of the game altogether?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't understand. Like, I feel like the XFL kickoff, it worked in terms of having some returns back for touchdown. We saw a spike in that. We saw that start with week one. The. Where people get confused with is with the onside kick because. Okay, well, I hate having to announce it. Well, everybody's down there. You can't onside kick at 35 yards like the onside.

[Mike Ryan]

I think at some point they'll move the onside kick to the flag football version of onside kick, which is they. You get a 4th and 20.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I love that. Another rule from the XFL.

[Stugotz]

Why can't we go punt no Newey on him? You guys aren't hip to punt. No Newey.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't even know what that means.

[Mike Ryan]

I have no idea.

[Chris Cote]

I do.

[Stugotz]

Let him know, though. Come on, man. This is. Thanks, Billy. I'll. I'll keep him up. This is recess football. Like, when you're playing recess, there's no kicking, so you throw it.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, throw offs.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Like punt. No. You gotta yell punt. No Newey. Because like I said, this is the last time. No Newey. There's no. We're not doing it over again. It's one and done, baby. We're getting.

[Billy Corben]

Might have just been like a house rule. For you guys.

[Stugotz]

I've seen it in movies, man.

[Billy Corben]

No, you haven't.

[Stugotz]

I mean, granted, I produced the movie, and it was. It was a story of my life, specifically. That was good. It was a lie, but we can go with that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Punt. No, New is not a thing that I ever participate in.

[Stugotz]

Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, we do throw offs. So what type of, like, losers were you playing? No Newey.

[Stugotz]

Yes, literally, I guess my throw.

[Mike Ryan]

Who was calling for Newey's? Like, when we would do throw offs, you threw it off. There was never a reason. You call a penalty illegal throw.

[Billy Corben]

I never heard someone say Newey that.

[Mike Ryan]

I had to be like, no, look at me, Newey.

[Stugotz]

There's no way you were playing recess football without knowing to put. No.

[Billy Corben]

Played some 500.

[Stugotz]

What's that?

[Billy Corben]

Where you, like, throw it up? It's like 100, and then you gotta get to 500, I think, to become the thrower.

[Chris Cote]

No, that's a different game.

[Stugotz]

I've never heard of that.

[Mike Ryan]

Nah, the kids call it. Or at least jackpot is what I'm being told.

[Billy Corben]

My game is.

[Mike Ryan]

My son's kids, my son's friends call it Moss, where they just all stand in a circle and you throw the. Or.

[Billy Corben]

That is a good name.

[Stugotz]

Head Top.

[Mike Ryan]

And you throw it up over there, and they're like, you want to play Moss? Like, no, I don't play Moss with you people who are a foot shorter than me. What are we doing here?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, they call it Head Top.

[Billy Corben]

I thought it's got a different name.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We call it no Newey.

[Stugotz]

We call it no Newey where I grew up, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I'm gonna introduce no Newey.

[Stugotz]

Hey, I think we're doing good, this show.

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