The Big Suey: Doug Unfunnie (feat. Jason Benetti)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Doug Unfunnie (feat. Jason Benetti)
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: May 22, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, accompanied by co-hosts Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, Billy Gil, Amin Elhassan, and special guest Jason Benetti, delve into the tumultuous world of sports analytics, memorable playoff moments, and the evolving landscape of sports broadcasting. The conversation is lively, filled with humor, insightful debates, and a touch of nostalgia.

The Greatest Playoff Choke and Sports Analytics

Dan Le Batard kicks off the discussion by highlighting what he considers the most significant playoff choke in recent history: the Indiana Pacers overturning a seemingly doomed game with an astonishing 23-point comeback in the final 3 minutes and 14 seconds of regulation time.

• Dan Le Batard [02:20]: "The Pacers had a 99% probability of losing versus New York in game one, a 95.9% probability of losing versus Cleveland in game two, and a 97.9% probability of losing in game five versus Milwaukee."

This revelation sparks a heated debate among the hosts about the reliability and impact of ESPN's win probabilities. Le Batard challenges the analytics, questioning whether these numbers are accurate or if they undermine the unpredictable nature of sports.

• Dan Le Batard [03:27]: "You don't care. You don't want a lot of numbers though."

Mike Ryan supports Le Batard's skepticism, pointing out that similar statistical outliers are exceedingly rare, emphasizing the unpredictability that makes sports exciting.

• Mike Ryan [07:18]: "I gave Tyrese Halliburton the nickname 'the Last Hope.' The point guard position, as we grew up knowing it, is all but dead."

The conversation shifts to player performance under pressure, specifically focusing on Tyrese Halliburton's clutch play and comparing him to legends like Steph Curry and Damian Lillard. The hosts analyze Halliburton's mindset and skill set that allow him to excel in high-stakes moments.

• Mike Ryan [05:38]: "He plays the game like the point guard position was originally thought of, which is someone who sets the table for everyone else."

Jason Benetti brings in his perspective as a play-by-play announcer, discussing the challenges and nuances of sports broadcasting amidst the rising influence of analytics.

The Impact of Numbers on Sports Enjoyment

The hosts grapple with the tension between advanced statistics and the pure enjoyment of sports. Dan Le Batard expresses concern that the obsession with numbers might be detracting from the visceral experience of watching games.

• Dan Le Batard [27:35]: "Or do you enjoy the numbers so much that it can't do it for you? I'm not just talking about this sport. I'm talking about just the hedge funding in general of numbers all over sports so that, you know, it just kind of ruined."

Stugotz adds that while numbers can enhance understanding, they sometimes take away the unpredictability and excitement that make sports compelling.

• Stugotz [28:58]: "I think it's once you size up a game so well, you just kind of know how it plays. And at that point, you then have your house rules of Monopoly where if you land on free parking, get the money or like, you have to go around once before you can buy properties."

Memorable Playoff Moments and Player Performances

The discussion moves to specific memorable moments from recent playoff games. Billy Gil reminisces about comeback victories and remarkable player performances that defy statistical expectations.

• Billy Gil [14:35]: "You have two teams that are really good at coming back and displayed that this postseason. You also have two teams that are not that good. From what we've seen out of championship level teams that make it to the NBA Finals is a very new NBA."

Amin Elhassan highlights the rarity and significance of these moments, underscoring how they captivate fans and add to the lore of the sport.

Broadcasting and Personal Anecdotes

Jason Benetti shares behind-the-scenes insights into sports broadcasting, including interactions with statistics bureaus and the challenges of conveying complex data in an engaging manner. The hosts humorously critique his on-air persona and impressions, adding a lighthearted dynamic to the conversation.

• Dan Le Batard [21:28]: "Jason Benetti is our favorite play-by-play announcer now in any sport. He's climbing up the rankings way too quickly. More than witty, Uncomfortably. Yeah, more than witty."

The segment is peppered with playful jabs and exaggerated impersonations, showcasing the camaraderie and playful banter among the hosts.

The Evolution of Sports Rules and Gameplay

Stugotz and Dan Le Batard discuss the evolving nature of sports rules in response to analytics, suggesting that leagues may need to continually adapt to maintain excitement and unpredictability.

• Stugotz [27:35]: "I think we probably need to say these leagues have to push to make the rules different so we can see a different game and watch 30 teams scramble to get their numbers in order."

Fantasy and Nostalgia in Sports

The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as the hosts reminisce about past moments, favorite broadcasters, and the enduring legacy of legendary sports figures. Stugotz fondly recalls his childhood impressions of sports announcers and the influence they had on his passion for sports.

• Stugotz [33:21]: "I was driving around San Diego as a kid, and I don't know why I remember this, but he had Oakland Athletics pitcher Barry Zito as a guest. And he just kept talking about how Barry Zito was a musician."

Humor and Lighthearted Moments

Throughout the episode, humor intersperses serious analysis. The hosts engage in playful skits, impersonations, and humorous critiques of each other’s antics, such as Billy Gil’s mock penalties for on-air antics and Stugotz’s attempts at impressions.

• Billy Gil [30:04]: "It's like he doesn't understand how to do self-deprecation. He thinks too highly of himself to do it."

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the balance between embracing advanced analytics and preserving the spontaneous joy of sports. They emphasize the importance of adaptability in sports broadcasting and the need to keep the game enjoyable for fans amidst the influx of data-driven insights.

• Dan Le Batard [31:00]: "What you have to do is the game. I mean, that's what's coming probably in all sports because we have so much information now and teams are able to go ahead and try to like, quote, unquote, optimize."

Key Takeaways

• Sports Analytics vs. Enjoyment: The hosts debate the impact of advanced statistics on the enjoyment of sports, weighing the benefits of deeper insights against the potential loss of unpredictability.

• Clutch Performances: Tyrese Halliburton's impressive playoff performance is highlighted as a modern example of a player excelling under pressure, drawing comparisons to NBA legends.

• Broadcasting Insights: Jason Benetti provides an insider’s look into sports broadcasting, emphasizing the challenges of integrating analytics into engaging commentary.

• Evolution of Sports Rules: The necessity for sports leagues to adapt rules in response to analytics to maintain fan interest and game unpredictability is discussed.

• Nostalgia and Humorous Banter: The episode is rich with nostalgic references and playful interactions among hosts, adding depth and entertainment to the analytical discussions.

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive exploration of the intersection between sports analytics and the intrinsic joy of watching sports, all delivered with the show's signature humor and insightful commentary. Whether you're a seasoned sports enthusiast or a casual fan, this episode provides valuable perspectives on how data and human elements coexist in the ever-evolving world of sports.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to.

[Stugotz]

The other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Chris Cody]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan LeBatard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Chris Cody]

I've done it.

[Mike Ryan]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Amin Elhassan]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just realized something in the frenzy of what was the first hour of our show and what was fueled by, I'm gonna say, 20 years of new York hatred. I haven't seen this group of people quite this jolly in quite a while because some of these stats are so stupid. Stu guys. The Pacers had 23 points in the final 3 minutes and 14 seconds of regulation Jolly.

[Chris Cody]

Fans of teams no longer playing.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's correct. That's correct. You really shouldn't be smug today.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, like, I feel good. I'm still alive.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know you say you feel good, but we haven't gotten a real emotion out of you in an hour. You've been. All of a sudden you care about the Edmonton Oilers.

[Billy Gil]

It was a game. It was a great game. Overshadowed for obvious reasons, that I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Want to be prisoner of the moment with the jolly, but I want to ask you if we're talking about biggest choke ever and we're talking about The Pacers had 23 points in the final 3 minutes and 14 seconds of regulations. That's the most in the final 3 minutes and 14 cents of regulation of a playoff game in the play by play era. So Carson Breber said ESPN's win probabilities here and I mean, I want you to find out whether you've got it wrong or you're coming after all of ESPN analytics incorrectly. Because some people are now calling the Pacers the greatest comeback playoff team of all time. Because of what I'm about to read to you. They had a 99% probability, 99.7% probability of losing versus New York in game one, a 95.9 probability of losing versus Cleveland in game two, and a 97.9% probability of losing in game five versus Milwaukee. So you're talking about a team for our times, right? I mean, like this shit is so stupid.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's all made up. Yeah, 99.8%. Now this, now it's 99.3.

[Billy Gil]

It's just how we schwab in the back saying, that looks like a 90.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are we doing with that?

[Jeremy Tache]

But a similar thing to what you're saying is since 1997, 98 teams are four and 1649 went down by seven plus points with less than a minute to go in the fourth quarter and overtime in the playoffs.

[Billy Gil]

Too many numbers.

[Jeremy Tache]

The pace. Hold on. The Pacers this playoffs account for three of those four wins.

[Dan LeBatard]

So this is where me and Jeremy ruin everything with our numbers because the group wants to just be jolly and hate and point out, hey, Brunson also had an airball at the end. Do you remember that?

[Stugotz]

Tired leg.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on, let me ask this question.

[Chris Cody]

He was resting on the bench.

[Mike Ryan]

ESPN analytics get me this number. Is that the most number of airballs you've ever seen in a playoff game? Everybody was shooting airballs.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, Indiana was.

[Mike Ryan]

The Pacers were shooting air balls. The Knicks were shooting air balls. Chalamet threw an airball when he tried to tee up Halliburton there. Tee him up, tee him up, tee him up.

[Billy Gil]

Air ball might be a record for a fourth quarter air balls.

[Mike Ryan]

There's so many airballs.

[Chris Cody]

Everyone but Neesmith.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, that dude was right on target.

[Chris Cody]

Nothing but net.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, can you take me through when we're talking about how people rise to big moments and if indeed Halliburton has more than a mindset, has a skill set that will kill you late Give me the person that you would say would have the basketball instincts for all of the following to happen. When you talk about what a point guard needs to be. Gets the ball at 7.2 seconds left, has to go. The length of the court has been in this situation. The matchup is Mitchell Robinson, you heard him wired up saying that guy crazy to go up against. Who has the mindset in those moments where you don't panic and you got to do something surgically concise to want to go floater. Have floater lined up bridges hits the ball. So that's short circuiting whatever you're thinking and you immediately think, I'm going backwards now see if I could kill him with a three get. Take me through the non thinking that has to happen in that moment because you're surrounded by people who are fearing you. You're a killer and you're not scared of what this moment brings.

[Mike Ryan]

So let me start by saying I think it was last year, may have been two years ago. I gave Tyrese Halliburton the nickname the Last Hope. Because the point guard position, as we grew up knowing it is all but dead. It's an ancient religion that nobody practices anymore. And here comes Tyrese Haliburn and he's a pure point guard, ladies and gentlemen. Don't get it twisted by the heroics and the big shots. He plays the game like the point guard position was originally thought of, which is someone who sets the table for everyone else. He did it last night. He's been doing all year and like it's really cool to see that get championed, you know, after we've coming off an era where that position has been mostly a score. Now to talk about that particular situation in play, there's a couple of guys I would think of. Steph Curry would be number one on that list. Who would do something like that, retreat back to three point line like that? It would be Steph Curry for sure. I think Damian Lillard probably would have pulled from deep, you know, not that he can't get to the rim, but in that situation he's got the confidence and the skill set to say I'm going to just take it from right here. I think de' Aaron Fox might have tried. I don't know if he would have been successful. John Morant probably would not have retreated because he's not as strong a three point shooter. So it's not, it's not as rare. Dan. I thought it was more interesting that the Pacers their after timeout play was. Even though we're advancing the ball into the front court. We're running almost like an Arena Football League kind of style set where everyone's in the back court and now we're running up and obviously they've got five guys out there who could shoot the three, including Miles Turner. So that adds a complication. I think it's like a combination of Rick Carlisle great play calling and Tyrese Halliburton great recognition of what's happening on the floor.

[Chris Cody]

Can we ease up on Halliburton? Because he doesn't have that opportunity unless Neesmith carries them back into the game. It wasn't Halliburton that got him back into the game. It was an ancillary player who got them back into the game. Like, can we ease up on. And by the way, he didn't step back far enough. It would have been the most embarrassing moment in NBA history had they lost that game.

[Billy Gil]

Shit. Take.

[Mike Ryan]

I love Stu Gotz because we are one segment removed from him saying he's better than Damian Lillard everywhere.

[Billy Gil]

What are you doing? Can ease up on Burton of all the days. No, we cannot play on both sides.

[Dan LeBatard]

The. How's this for numbers? Because I know that people don't.

[Amin Elhassan]

Numbers.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like numbers. How about this one though? How about just this one?

[Billy Gil]

All the numbers seem to be 99.8.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. The odds of winning all three of those games that I gave you those win Probabilities on are 1 in 387,147. You don't care. You don't want a lot of numbers though.

[Billy Gil]

It's so many numbers.

[Jason Benetti]

Jeremy said like 15,000 numbers.

[Billy Gil]

Gillion.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think it's more than like 1 and 2. 290, 000.

[Billy Gil]

Thank you, Howie Schwab.

[Mike Ryan]

I like Mike's theory that all of these dumps for me. It's been analytics.

[Billy Gil]

It's just a guy named Elias sitting in the back. Yeah.

[Jason Benetti]

Hispanic guy.

[Billy Gil]

Dan Elias eating Doritos.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's my dad.

[Billy Gil]

That's how I read it. Everybody thought it was this big, like, firm. No, it's just a dude named Elias.

[Mike Ryan]

Ah. Feels about 95.

[Billy Gil]

I remember when the Brewers a comeback. Let's put that up there.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'd like to continue the beef between Amin and Elias. The Elias Sports Bureau. I remember I used to use them in about 1997. They were so progressive. You'd pick up a phone and you'd call somebody and they would have the original computer there and call you back.

[Chris Cody]

What do you mean you would call?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. You'd call them.

[Mike Ryan]

They'd have to call you back.

[Billy Gil]

We did that, like, when we were on espn. Dan would ask one of those crazy questions that it was impossible to find an answer to. And I would just dial up a landline. Hello, Elias.

[Jason Benetti]

So somebody would be there on the other side and be like, hey, I need to know when Halliburton shoots for three, but with three seconds left, what's his percentage if he does this? X, Y, and Z, and then go, all right, I'll call you back.

[Billy Gil]

And then it would take 48 minutes for them to get back to you. And then I just learned code on, like, basketball reference. I was good.

[Mike Ryan]

That's. That's the most important part, Tony, is that they would call you back, but always after you needed it. Like, I need.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm live on the air. I'm on deadline.

[Mike Ryan]

They would always call you back afterwards. Like, Never mind.

[Billy Gil]

Next. I have that answer for you. Thanks.

[Chris Cody]

I got it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like Tony's way better, though, that you're calling and somebody's like, at a. At a. Oh, yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Elia shuffles over.

[Jason Benetti]

We need Halliburton's three pointers.

[Amin Elhassan]

What?

[Billy Gil]

And he goes. He's thinking.

[Jason Benetti]

Noises in the background.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah. The. The thing about this, though, that I ask you stugats, because I see that now, Chris Cody, a descendant of his father.

[Stugotz]

Mm.

[Dan LeBatard]

You, Tony, you're doing this thing now where you're saying, I don't want numbers. I don't. Don't ruin the game with math. And everyone's doing it, and it is a ruiner. Like, sports are better enjoyed the way that you're doing it. Jolly and ignorant.

[Jason Benetti]

Ignorant.

[Amin Elhassan]

I just don't like last night. What had happened is rare. That's good, right?

[Chris Cody]

That's it. It's enough like that. I've never seen it before.

[Stugotz]

Right?

[Amin Elhassan]

Just like 1 in 782,000 chances of that happening. It's just like. Just like.

[Billy Gil]

I get it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shocking.

[Chris Cody]

It doesn't happen often.

[Stugotz]

We got it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, you guys said biggest choke ever.

[Amin Elhassan]

So if it's the third biggest joke.

[Billy Gil]

Ever, statistically, no one likes you at a party, man. Get out.

[Mike Ryan]

I like this character.

[Billy Gil]

You're not getting invited back to the party, pal. You brought chips. Leave.

[Jason Benetti]

You brought Jeremy in that vest.

[Amin Elhassan]

Funny.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, I was talking to the smart guy.

[Amin Elhassan]

Mike walked in today and earnestly said to Jeremy, are you doing a grit of death punishment? Like, what's going on here?

[Dan LeBatard]

Because he went vest in what? As summer approaches.

[Mike Ryan]

Balls upside down.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

What a vessel for a white tea.

[Billy Gil]

What's up? 1997 Gap commercial.

[Jeremy Tache]

Hey, man, in the late 90s. You're back.

[Mike Ryan]

Jump for driving.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think you guys have it right. I think the better way to experience all of that is just let the hate fill your heart and just be happy about it. And don't tell me how rare it is precisely to the decimal point. Just let me. Got it. Let me just shake my hips and laugh at New York.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is there a better hate watch? Like what?

[Jeremy Tache]

There will never be a better hypothetical.

[Amin Elhassan]

Hate watch for us down here.

[Billy Gil]

Numbers get in the way. Like if I told you the Panthers, the way that they ice game seven last year against the Oilers, it actually wasn't that long, historically speaking. It was like the 27th longest way to freeze a puck. No, that took forever.

[Mike Ryan]

They were there.

[Billy Gil]

They were in that corner for 17 minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

Nikola, does anyone feel more relieved today than Karl Anthony Towns? Because he missed a free throw too, but no one's talking about it. They just talking about og. I don't know.

[Billy Gil]

You got him feeling relieved this morning. I don't think anybody wearing that detail.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is like, wow, what a good morning.

[Billy Gil]

Easy day for me.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think he looked at his stats.

[Jason Benetti]

And he was like, did a good.

[Mike Ryan]

Job a little bit. He's like. Because people gonna look back and say, well, he had 35 or whatever it was, or 35 and 10.

[Billy Gil]

I think the person that's most relieved is honestly Halliburton.

[Chris Cody]

Probably. Yeah. Because that would have been embarrassing.

[Billy Gil]

They were down four in overtime and it looked like he was going to be a punchline for all time.

[Mike Ryan]

What about John Halliburton? Because he was dancing and doing a choke sign in the club watching hockey. What if they had lost? That's what he's doing the choke sign for. Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

For the Oilers.

[Mike Ryan]

What if they had lost that game?

[Billy Gil]

That would become a meme forever. Like when someone thinks they have a in the bag, they would just put Halliburton doing that. It wouldn't be the Knicks choking. It would be him, literally.

[Amin Elhassan]

The funny thing is they have ESPN on behind him. That's what channel the hockey game was on last night. I think he is talking about them.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, I mean, do you think the series is over? Like, did the Pacers win the series last night? Because I think the Knicks are going to come back and win this series and one.

[Mike Ryan]

No. I don't know. Yeah, it's like we always say no.

[Chris Cody]

But a lot of people are assuming Pacers. Hey, like, you can't lose that game at home. It's game one. You have home court that the Pacers won the series last night.

[Mike Ryan]

I think before the game last night, it was already a coin toss for me. I think these are two good teams that have guys that are transcendent and have type of defensive players that you need in order to win these type of series. They lost game one, the Knicks did. I don't think that ends their season. They can come back and all they got to do is win one in Indiana. It's the same thing I told Dan when the Thunder lost game one of the Nuggets. And Dan was like, oh, my God. And I said, dan, all they got to do is win one in Denver. And that's it. We're back to square one.

[Billy Gil]

Hopes for this series were sky high entering it because it had all the makings. You have two teams. Remember how the Pacers choked away last year's Eastern Conference finals? They were losing games. The way that the Knicks lost last night, it was insane. The way that Rick Carlisle found found ways to lose against Boston last year, you have two teams are really good at coming back and displayed that this postseason. You also have two teams. To be quite frank, they're not that good. From what we've seen out of championship level teams that make it to the NBA Finals is a very new NBA. So both these teams got to kind of learn how to win on the fly. So I think it's going to be a long series. It's probably going to get crazier.

[Jason Benetti]

If you take the name off the Indiana Pacers and you look at the stats that they've done since January. Like you said, Dan, that's a team that you could say that team wins the title very easily.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think anybody's beating okc, but I would like to see it. I'd also like to point out that some people are saying that Jeremy looks like an inner city substitute teacher who's in over his head.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah, it's accurate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Man.

[Jeremy Tache]

When I left the house this morning, I really thought I looked great. I really did. I felt really confident.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is from Ramona Shelburn. After saying multiple times that, oh, man.

[Amin Elhassan]

I thought she was going to roast.

[Stugotz]

Jeremy.

[Chris Cody]

Like a personal tax.

[Billy Gil]

Looks like he's on the back nine.

[Mike Ryan]

The biggest disappointment of my life. I was so excited.

[Jeremy Tache]

Look, guys, I'm invested in my fashion.

[Chris Cody]

She texted you information.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, after saying multiple times she's talking to Rick Carlisle. And Rick Carlisle has been very careful to say of the Knicks fan base that Halliburton's choke gesture wasn't a big deal because he Says he doesn't want to rile up the Knicks fan base. And so now he's shrugging and saying, tyrese has earned the right to do whatever he wants. That starch stiff, Rick Carlisle saying that?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he did. He did. I watched his press conference. Every time they asked somebody like, look, guys, I'm not even going into the historical element of that. Like, this fan base is pretty engaged as it is, and we have nothing but the utmost respect, and da, da, da. And then later on, someone asked him, like, how did you feel about Tyrese doing the choke symbol? And he was like, oh, Tyrese had earned the right to do whoever he wants.

[Billy Gil]

And he was like, oh, it was.

[Mike Ryan]

A little contradictory there.

[Billy Gil]

If he wins the title, we gotta have a conversation about old Rick Carlisle.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, he's back. He was. Remember when they won? Everyone's like, this guy's the best coach in the league. And then over time, he's like, this guy's an idiot. And now he's back to, oh, my God, he might be the best coach in the league.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whose voice was that?

[Mike Ryan]

That's the guy that doesn't believe in Rick Carlisle.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me talk more to him.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, hey, let's go.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dad, why don't you believe in him?

[Mike Ryan]

He's got all those years when you remember he got into it with Ray John Rondo. What was that about? And then, like, him and Luca, they didn't really get along and all that, but now it's, like, it's cool again.

[Billy Gil]

Don't forget how the Mavs made it to the finals.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Who's that guy?

[Billy Gil]

That's also that same guy.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

We'Re at the bar together. We're in a group chat together. You talk about other things, too, not just Rick Hawa.

[Billy Gil]

Did you see that?

[Mike Ryan]

Korean warship.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

What was that about?

[Dan LeBatard]

What's going on?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, my God. Aren't you guys worried?

[Dan LeBatard]

Just fell.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's a Wi Fi 5G.

[Amin Elhassan]

Folks, listen up. The time has come to get some new golf clubs, and that means one thing. Heading over to my local PXG store for a fitting. They make the best golf clubs, period. Roy, I know. You need new clubs, right? You're in that.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, I need new clubs, man. My clubs are way too short. I need to get longer clubs. I need new.

[Amin Elhassan]

The Grips.

[Billy Gil]

Grips.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm telling you, Roy, you go over to pxg, within an hour, you will be out the door with their good staff. They're going to get you fitted. You're going to take multiple shots they're going to get you set up with their woods, with your irons. They're going to get you the right grips, the perfect length clubs. I'm telling you, nothing fixes your golf game like getting fitted.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, absolutely. I need to work on my short game. So these clubs are definitely.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think you got to work on the whole game, not just the short.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, well, you know, I got a long drive, so.

[Amin Elhassan]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Stugotz]

Really?

[Billy Gil]

It's like. Yeah, they got it engraved right there. It says, chris Whittingham sucks ass.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jason Benetti is our favorite play by play announcer now in any sport. He's climbing up the rankings way too quickly. More than witty, Uncomfortably. Yeah, more than witty. He's. He's more. He's more charming, more likable, less stubborn than witty. Witty. Coming on here, having an all time look. Let me just rewind for a second. As if it weren't bad enough that he said that Giannis Antetokounmpo was the league's best number two. We didn't even talk about the fact that that made Chris Middleton the number one.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just like we, we left that part totally out. And then he doubles down on the take. Benett, he knows how to be likable. This is one of his chief traits. And one of the reasons that he's so likable around here is the impressions. I mean, your impressions pale compared to this man's impressions.

[Mike Ryan]

I disagree.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

And I also think Ricardo's a bum cosine.

[Chris Cody]

Try that impression. Benetti.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, yes. Can you do. Hey, Benetti, can you do Pacers fan who's always got something bad to say about Rick Carlisle as an impersonation, but you don't have that one in your holster? Benetti.

[Stugotz]

No, I can do it as a Chicago person who doesn't like Rick Carlisle, but the Indiana accent is lost on me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, it was lost on a Mean too. I don't think that there was.

[Mike Ryan]

I never said I was from Indiana. I just said I don't like Rick Harlem.

[Chris Cody]

Just a guy.

[Billy Gil]

Still don't like him either.

[Mike Ryan]

But if he wins again as well, he might be the best coach ever.

[Billy Gil]

You know, in addition to.

[Chris Cody]

I'll take his Chicago style. I mean, I will be Eddie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. But I don't think he's got a whole lot of opinions on Rick Carlisle. But perhaps you're a sports lover. Perhaps. Why don't you give us some not. Prisoner of the moment takes in the first hour and twenty minutes of today because we are fueled by New York hate. Stugats has said that Tyrese Halliburton is better than Damian Lillard.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

We have identified last night's choke as the greatest choke in the history of all chokes is all. And. And I think we've also said that tops The Reggie Miller 8 points in 9 seconds choke. Because I was arguing. I still don't know if last night's choke is the biggest in the history between these two teams. So even though you're a baseball announcer, do you have any opinions on any of these things?

[Stugotz]

I think that Carlisle guy, he's got to play Halliburton more. Why? Why doesn't he play Halliburton? That guy? Easy. He got all those defense contracts. What's he doing? I don't understand. You gotta like if you're in New York. I. I hate the Knicks. Okay. I hate the Knicks because Anthony Mason and all those guys. But you gotta play Alberton more.

[Billy Gil]

Did you see that? North Korean worship Fall into the ocean.

[Mike Ryan]

You gotta use the voice. Hold on. What are you doing? Better Korea worship? What's up with that?

[Stugotz]

It's embarrassing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you fall out of character? Did you deliver news as yourself instead of.

[Billy Gil]

I'm still workshopping it.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't get this guy. Sometimes he acts like this in a group.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugatz. You were talking the other day about missing when an NBA coach looked like an NBA coach in the days of Cotton Fitzsimmons. You'll be happy to know that Bruce Bochy is still a manager.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

In the big leagues you'll be. Do you want to guess who the manager of the Twins is? It's a name that will delight you.

[Stugotz]

Ooh, the Twins.

[Mike Ryan]

The Twinkies.

[Stugotz]

It's still Garden hire Ron.

[Chris Cody]

Garden hire.

[Billy Gil]

It's always been gardy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Go ahead. You can help them here if you'd like. Look at how disgusting Benetti is. Disgusted with them right there. There's very little baseball knowledge in this room, and it's offensive, but when you say the name, it will delight stugats, I assure you. Benetti.

[Stugotz]

It's the Wound socket Rocket himself, Rocco Baldelli.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

I had no idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Twins are good. The Tigers are good. Benetti, your Tigers are good.

[Stugotz]

The Tigers are really good. They're really fun. And honestly, they just went to St. Louis and had all the business in the world to lose two of three or three of three. They had a bullpen game yesterday. They got blown out in game one of the series, and they won the last two games of the series. They. They're like a. They really are like a TED Talk waiting to happen because they use the whole roster more than most teams in Major League Baseball. They use the bench basically every day. Like, get your red pen out. There was a game last week against the Red Sox that the two guys that were in the game winning run didn't even start, and it was extra innings. It is honestly really, really fun to watch. And by the way, the Bruce Bochy comment, if you listen, I just had a. I just had a Rangers game recently. Listen to Bruce Bochy and the actor Sam elliott. They are 100% voice sound alikes.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is great. You're not kidding. Yeah, Bochy's got this low rumble that. What is it? It just gives off Southland. Something deep. Deep in Texas. I don't know what it is, but it's a. It's a. From another time.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, no, he's. I. I listen to that Wichita Lineman song and I. Yeah, there's a lot in there that makes sense to me, but I. I work with my hands more than that sort of thing.

[Mike Ryan]

How does he feel about Ricardo, you think for us.

[Stugotz]

Is that Scooby Doo, man?

[Billy Gil]

I don't know. I'm still trying to find the place.

[Dan LeBatard]

Working on it.

[Mike Ryan]

It's.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's. Look, Amin tried attack me here. Amin was trying to do comedy the other day for Andrew Santino, and now the two of you are trying to do impersonations.

[Mike Ryan]

I wasn't trying to do comedy for Andersono. I was doing a paid read that I had to do.

[Stugotz]

Oh.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you didn't. They didn't know it was sponsored when it said weekend observations are brought to you by. You thought that was just part of the bit paid.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why are you lashing out at the paid read for.

[Mike Ryan]

Because you called it comedy for Andrew Santino, and that's not what it was.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, what happened was you. You were doing.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know what you're talking about Dan lebuzzard.

[Chris Cody]

Odd arguments.

[Mike Ryan]

You and Rick Carlisle both don't know what you're talking about. What did Benatty talk about it?

[Billy Gil]

Let's not forget he lost the NBA Cup.

[Dan LeBatard]

He did okay, Benetti, before you came on with us, we were talking. They were making fun of me and Jeremy correctly, because we were just talking a lot about numbers. And I know baseball is inundated with the advanced metrics. I know you've had to evolve as a broadcaster and get better at doing all the measurements. But I can also feel like it's kind of ruining the sport even as you get more information about the sport. Is it not? Or do you enjoy the numbers so much that it can't do it for you? I'm not just talking about this sport. I'm talking about just the hedge funding in general of numbers all over sports so that, you know, it just kind of ruined. It ruins fun.

[Stugotz]

So I agree that, like, you play Monopoly enough times and everybody knows all the strategy, and I think that's where baseball actually, it's. It's shocking to say that baseball has been on the front end of something, but they have been with the rule changes because I think you see a lot more stolen bases now in baseball because of those rules. But I think what it is more than just, like, fun being gone because of the numbers. I think it's once you size up a game so well, you just kind of know how it plays. And at that point you then have your house rules of Monopoly where if you land on free parking, get the money or like, you have to go around once before you can buy properties. Like, you just have to change the rules. And I think, like, that's what's coming probably in all sports because we have so much information now and teams are able to go ahead and try to like, quote, unquote, optimize, right? Like, then you have to change the rules. You have to do something that makes it different and then make them spend years re optimizing. I think it's. Rather than say, I want it back to what it used to be, I think we probably need to say these leagues have to push to make the rules different so we can see a different game and watch 30 teams scramble to get their numbers in order.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike, what are you and Tony making fun of me about?

[Billy Gil]

Well, because you've been on a number kick lately, and I think yesterday you invoked when talking about. Well, two days ago, when talking about baseball, hedge fund analytics. And we just kind of took it like what are you talking about?

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you. Are you guys not aware that hedge funds and private equity are. Are bleeding America dry?

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, yeah, but I don't know what they have to do with analytics in baseball. Like, again, that was also out of left field.

[Dan LeBatard]

You get so bleeding America.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's just keep it a sports. Come on, man.

[Jeremy Tache]

Look, guys, Dan's just looking for the best of the best.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, shut up. Best, best, best, best, best.

[Jeremy Tache]

My bad, my bad. You guys have me.

[Billy Gil]

Blood.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's. How bad was that?

[Mike Ryan]

Doug, unfunny.

[Dan LeBatard]

Get out of here. My dog.

[Chris Cody]

That's your teammate.

[Billy Gil]

Wait.

[Stugotz]

We inject people.

[Amin Elhassan]

Major penalty.

[Billy Gil]

Five minutes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Grooming, comedy.

[Chris Cody]

We give the penalties. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Doug unfun. I love that we inject people from the television program.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, that. That was so impossibly lame what he just did there.

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't like it either.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's like he doesn't understand how to do self deprecation. He thinks too highly of himself to do it.

[Jason Benetti]

Well, he's wearing a vest, Dan.

[Stugotz]

So is it insincere, you think, or like he just doesn't know? It's like an instruction manual in a different language.

[Billy Gil]

Yes, but Neddy hates Jeremy Dash. He's met him for, like three minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

Spot on.

[Dan LeBatard]

But the reason I brought up the question is something that you're delighting in, right? Which is the evolution of the game that makes it so that it's not much Mike Mordecai on your bench anymore.

[Mike Ryan]

It's. You've got.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Tigers have 25 players. They're going to rest them. The 162 game schedule is insane. And they figured out how to exploit market inefficiencies. But you're saying that. That this is fun for you, and I'm saying it's probably less fun when a line drive over second base is caught by the second baseman because he's got a card in his pocket that tells him exactly where to play.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, the fun for me is being with a team. I love what's on the screen right now is that there was a. There was a game show on Nickelodeon called where the kids would have to go up to the screen with little, like, sticky notes, and they'd be like, find the frying pan. And they'd have to put the picture of the frying pan up on the thing, the cartoon thing that looks like what we're playing right now.

[Chris Cody]

He didn't answer Dan's question.

[Stugotz]

I actually, by the way, I'm having trouble hearing you. Honestly. Truly. Like, my. My audio is a Little low. So if I've missed something, that's why. But what I would say is, there it is. Finders keepers. Yes. Let's go. How did you find that that quickly? I guess because you kept it. I don't know. But the idea being you have like super guys on the bench who can do specific things. Like there's a right handed bat on the Tigers bench who just mashes left handed pitching. That's what he's there for. You pull the trigger on him in the sixth inning. And by the way, I don't know that people do this enough in Major League Baseball, but when you have a guy on the bench that you know can hit a certain reliever that you think might be able to is likely to come in the game, you can choose that guy to face that pitcher. So there actually is something to pinch hitting. Everybody's like, well, you're right out the lineup. In baseball, you never really know exactly what's going to happen. And whether you get that at bat or not, that's up to the baseball gods. Not when you pinch it. When you pinch it, you're like, that's the guy. This is what's going to happen. I don't know why I turned into Robbie Hummel there for a second. That's what they do. He goes over his right should. I don't know what's going on here, but I do that sometimes. So I apologize.

[Dan LeBatard]

What else do you have for us? Do you have any impersonations that you've been working on? Do you want us to take some guesses? Do you have anything that you've added to your repertoire? This is putting a lot of pressure on you, but you do seem to enjoy this playground more than most.

[Stugotz]

I love that it's a playground. It is officially a playground because of that cartoon mural you got going on there. I used to do a Jim Rome impression from back in the day. I don't know if I could do it anymore.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do it.

[Stugotz]

Do we like Jim Roman?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, my God.

[Amin Elhassan]

Do we like Jim?

[Chris Cody]

We like this thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is very exciting. When's the last time you broke out your Jim Rome?

[Stugotz]

A couple years ago on a White Sox team charter. The hook of it, I was driving around San Diego as a kid, and I don't know why I remember this, but he had Oakland Athletics pitcher Barry Zito as a guest. And he just kept talking about how Barry Zito was a musician. So the hook for me has always been a player and an instrument. So he'd be like, this is the premier radio Network. Barry Zito's here with his guitar, Mike Lieberthal and his flute at 4:45. Terrible take. Actually re rack it. You can re rack it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who did you grow up listening to? Like who. Who did. Jim Rome. Was his effect something that. That hypnotized young Benetti?

[Stugotz]

I was. We were on vacation in San Diego and there's this guy who's just talking about a bunch of major league players in their band, evidently. And it just. It was sort of mesmerizing to me. So, you know, it was just always. It was always that hook. But like, I grew up listening to Hawk Harrelson. We know Hawk Harrelson, right. I followed him as the White Sox play by play announcer. And one of my favorite Hawkisms. I used to like, run around 4th grade doing hawk Harrelson impressions. But I used to always like how dejected he got when he would be like, stay fair. It won't. It was like the elation. There's like this super elation. And then my goldfish died. Like, stick bear. It won't. Right size, wrong shape.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you have a favorite radio broadcast.

[Stugotz]

In Major league Baseball?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, like a team.

[Stugotz]

So I love Pat Hughes from the Cubs and his always partner named Ron.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Stugotz]

He had Ron Santo forever. And then they just to make it easy for Pat, I feel like they went and got Ron Coomer, but Pat, because, you know, like, we don't know everybody.

[Chris Cody]

Are you saying more qualified people did not get the job job because their name wasn't Ron?

[Stugotz]

There's a decent chance of that if we're being honest. Like, you know, people came walking in the room and Pat was like, well, my first question, is your name Ron Ronnie? And they're like, no, I'm Frank. And he's like, well, I'll be calling you Ron. The Cubs are wearing the white trousers.

[Mike Ryan]

Jason, can you do an impression of the Chicago Pope for us, please?

[Stugotz]

I seriously could not hear that. My audio has been low. Can you just yell that like, anybody wants to stand for me, please?

[Mike Ryan]

Can you do an impression of the Chicago Pope, please?

[Stugotz]

You know, I was doing the pontiff things and I was listening to the White Sox couple years ago, and I was like, yeah, this guy, he laughs a little too much, honestly. The new Pope, by the way, lived at one point like four blocks away from where I grew up. So the text thread of my high school friends devolved from like, he ate pizza at Aurelio's to isn't it funny that the new Pope has an opinion about your work?

[Mike Ryan]

That is A good point, man. That's crazy. Like the leader of the Catholic faith, man. Over a billion people across the world listen to a massive. Who's like, yeah, I don't know what this Benetti guy is doing calling this game, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wait a minute. So do you think the Pope was a Jim Rome fan? Ooh, of course.

[Stugotz]

White smoke, 445 possible black smoke later on. Jim Lampley is here Friday. Welcome to the jungle. This is the premier radio network.

[Billy Gil]

Lampley, one of the go tos.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you heard Frank Caliendo's Jim Rome? We will see if we can get some of that for Benett. I think that Caliendo's got the best Jim Rome that I've ever heard.

[Stugotz]

I don't think that Caliendo has the best everything. He. Like, I, I don't ever want to do any impression that Frank Caliendo does because it's like doing hockey the day after Doc Emmerich. Like, you, you, you can't. Like, that's why I pick all the esoteric ones. Like, I don't know that Caliendo does the Sports center guy, but when you're, you know, like, if he does, then I'm going to have to retire. The Sports center, brought to you by Applebee's.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on, hold on. Let me rebut. Sportscenter. Brought to you by Coors Light.

[Amin Elhassan]

Can't follow Benetti.

[Stugotz]

That's Harvey Fierstein.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

And also a less superior beer.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Yeah. Why'd you do that?

[Mike Ryan]

Same company.

[Chris Cody]

You can keep that one.

[Mike Ryan]

Same company.

[Billy Gil]

I know we're safe.

[Jeremy Tache]

Are you guys really making fun of me or is that Simply Invest?

[Billy Gil]

When you see a girl you like, does. Do you hear.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah, in fact, I do. My wife.

[Mike Ryan]

My wife.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jason, through the, through the season, the best moment you've seen so far.

[Stugotz]

The best moment is Javi Baez last Tuesday. Walk off home run like that dude was down for the count in so many ways and then ended up becoming a hero again. He's hit the ball really well. That specific to the Tigers. The best moment of the season might actually have been the other day in that Mets Red Sox game, though, when Walker Bueller and Mike Estabrook, pitcher and umpire, started to do one of those, like, saloon doors swaying in the breeze, Wild west standoffs walking toward each other from the mound and the plate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Baseball announcers like to flower up some westerns there when it was just like, it's not, it's not quite all of that. Benetti.

[Jason Benetti]

Me and Mike are arguing back here. Cuz we were in Mexico with Cuervo doing our thing over there. And there was a bathroom in the hotel that had saloon doors. And me and Mike came away with two different opinions on saloon doors.

[Billy Gil]

They're useless. They're terrible. Who installs saloon doors? What do you. You don't get privacy. They don't swing the way that they do in the movies. They always ricochet. Right.

[Jason Benetti]

He wasn't doing it right.

[Billy Gil]

You know, it's not even. You don't get the cool effect or anything like that. It's not the way that it works in real life. Life, it just sucks.

[Mike Ryan]

You got to step through, and then they swing behind you, and then you survey behind you.

[Billy Gil]

What if someone's walking behind you?

[Jason Benetti]

You got a beeline.

[Chris Cody]

You don't worry about it. You step through the flurry. That's what you do.

[Billy Gil]

Most impractical door.

[Jason Benetti]

It's great.

[Chris Cody]

I love it.

[Jason Benetti]

Ripped it open.

[Billy Gil]

Then a car hit somebody on the hate. Saloon doors also.

[Mike Ryan]

They're not there for privacy. They're there to look cool. Dude, do you want to look cool? Do you want to be private?

[Billy Gil]

I guess they do sort of look cool. And then you have to actually use one.

[Mike Ryan]

Walk through and. And then you walk and you survey the whole.

[Billy Gil]

You don't just walk through.

[Chris Cody]

They never work that way.

[Billy Gil]

They never work that way.

[Mike Ryan]

Walk with purpose.

[Jeremy Tache]

Sounds like the wild wild vest in here.

[Billy Gil]

God damn him.

[Stugotz]

It feels a little bit. It feels a little bit like saloon doors are the biggest villain on this show for weeks.

[Billy Gil]

No, it's Jeremy Tache.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the pole, please. At Le Batar show. He can't leave fast enough. I don't. I don't even have. Have enough buttons for what it is that he's doing.

[Jason Benetti]

Just click one of them, Dan, for God's sake.

[Chris Cody]

See?

[Billy Gil]

Minor penalty.

[Amin Elhassan]

Two minutes high sticking.

[Billy Gil]

Mind the gap.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jason.

[Stugotz]

We need to have an ejection animation. We need to have somebody just that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah, just. How about just a vaudevillian cane of some sort. Something. Because we can't get anything modern around here. So why don't we go. 1950s. He should be yanked out of here with a giant tank by the vest. You just put it in, you insert it in the vest and yank him right out of here. Jason, nice seeing you. Always nice seeing you. Thank you for making the time, sir.

[Stugotz]

Thank you, guys. I hope this marital dispute works itself out.

[Billy Gil]

Howdy, listeners, it's Mike. This is one of the best times of the year. You're caught up in the emotion of the playoffs, big time. Crucial games, going to games, hanging out, hanging with your boys, hanging with your ladies, hanging with your family and having a good old fashioned time. Well, I can speak from experience. I've been doing all those things, but I've been doing so with a Miller Lite by my side. Because having good times is great. Making those good times a Miller time makes it an unbelievable time. A time of your life with Miller Lite, a brand and a beverage that has been around for 50 glorious years. That's hard to do. Remain popular and deliver. Delivering on grape flavor for 50 years. Brewed with simple ingredients, none of the fluff, just real flavor. Malted barley gives it that rich, balanced toffee note taste and the iconic golden color that just hits right every time. Miller Lite Great Taste 96 calories Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.