The Big Suey: EGAD! (feat. Dave Dameshek)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – The Big Suey: EGAD! (feat. Dave Dameshek)

Date: September 26, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

In this episode of “The Big Suey,” Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the team are joined by analyst Dave Dameshek. Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel, the crew dives deep into sports (especially the NFL), media controversies, and pop culture—themes delivered with their trademark blend of humor and insight. The episode ranges from NFL quarterback debates and coaching critiques to musings on language, broadcast drama, and broader cultural shifts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Controlling the Uncontrollable

• [02:01] Dan discusses the challenge of wrangling his father, Papi, behind the scenes. This leads to a humorous sidetrack about an odd, breakfast-breath mention of "Belichick with an 18-year-old girl," showcasing the show’s loose, offbeat style.

2. “Why Isn’t There Tickling in MMA?”

• [02:36] Banter about Pablo Torre’s investigative talents segues into the quirky question of why tickling isn’t a fighting technique in MMA.
  • “You would disarm your opponent… It could happen.” – [03:05], Dan
  • The crew jokes about the potential openings for unorthodox fighting moves.

3. NFL Quarterbacks: Injury-Prone Narratives

• [04:06] Dameshek introduces the concept of "paradox of injury prone"—noting how certain players (e.g., Frank Gore, Fred Taylor) overcame early labels to have long, successful careers. He offers hope for Tua and compares to other athletes like Eric Lindros and Mario Lemieux.
  • “Tua is the face, sadly, of injury prone.” – Dave Dameshek [05:41]

4. Changing Opinions: Sam Darnold and QB Development

• [06:26–13:32] The team debates Sam Darnold’s recent performance and whether some quarterbacks blossom late. Dameshek weighs if the 2018 QB draft class (Darnold, Mayfield, Jackson, Allen) might now stack up with legendary classes like 1983 and 2004.
  • “Every QB is different, and they do not hit the ground running necessarily.” – Dave Dameshek [09:17]
  • “It’s hard sometimes to change opinions once you’ve established them.” – Dan [10:22]
  • They discuss how analytics may skew perceptions and how playoff moments—or their absence—define legacies.

5. The Ceiling of Kyler Murray

• [17:12] Tony and Dameshek analyze Kyler Murray’s limitations (“he is what he is”) and his tendency to rely on athleticism over pocket play. Questions arise over his growth, film study habits, and whether his exciting flashes can ever translate into true top-tier status.
  • “He’s a running quarterback that’s going to try to get his stuff, but I don’t think there’s any ceiling.” – Tony [17:32]
  • “It’s a bad look when he’s announcing 'I don’t really like to study film.'” – Dameshek [18:25]
  • They debate if Murray just lacks weapons and highlight his struggles against the NFC West [19:06–21:21].

6. NFL Rule Changes and Kicking Drama

• [21:39–25:26] Dameshek rails against the drama-deflating effects of modern NFL kicking and overtime rules, calling them a “plague” that robs the game of suspense.
  • “Every kicker makes a 55-yard field goal… and now the game’s over and it all stinks.” – Dave Dameshek [22:46]
  • Criticism of recent kickoff rule changes: “No one is enjoying this. Just do away with it… Start them at the 25.” – Dameshek [24:59]

7. Media Power Struggles: Jimmy Kimmel and Tom Brady

• [25:26–29:01] Dameshek, as a former Kimmel writer, analyzes the recent controversy around Jimmy Kimmel’s show being preempted and draws a parallel to Tom Brady’s elite status in the NFL.
  • “It is the elites against all the rest of us. …the powerful speaking up… is what will change society.” – Dave Dameshek [26:58]
  • Dameshek likens Brady’s ability to skirt controversy to being “above the law,” connecting it to broader issues of power and privilege in society.

8. The “Plague of Scandals” & Tom Brady’s NFL Legacy

• [32:44–34:44] Dameshek lists all the controversies attached to Tom Brady’s career—tuck rule, Deflategate, Jimmy Garoppolo, tampering, and more—before calling his Super Bowl with Tampa Bay “the weirdest, worst, most unsatisfying victory for a city.”
  • “A plague of scandals, Dan. A plague of scandals.” – Dameshek [33:06]

9. Pop Culture, Language, and EGAD!

• [25:26, 41:16] Lingering on words like “Fe” and “Egad” for comic effect, the crew investigates their definitions and cultural uses.
  • “Egad. Of course. Also an exclamation expressing surprise, anger, or affirmation.” – Dave Dameshek [41:16]
  • Jokes fly about who actually uses "egad" outside of comic strips and octogenarians.

10. Miami History & Freedom Tower

• [37:24–40:52] The meeting closes on a personal note: Tony is taking Dan’s father to the Freedom Tower, retracing his arrival in America decades earlier. It's a rare, reflective moment in the midst of the hijinks.

11. College Football Gambling

• [42:37–44:08] Mike Ryan expresses nerves over FSU’s line against Virginia, raising concerns about FSU’s real strength and the unpredictability of games in Charlottesville. Dan, with customary humility, offers his (often “epically terrible”) betting tips, suggesting parlaying Ole Miss and Virginia money lines.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Keeping Opinions About QBs:
  “It’s hard sometimes to change opinions once you’ve established them. …I’m making it very hard for Sam Darnold to change my mind and I don’t know why I’m doing that. It feels unfair.”
  — Dan [10:22]

• On the NFL’s “Injury Prone” Narrative:
  “Tua is the face, sadly, of injury prone.”
  — Dave Dameshek [05:41]

• QB Legacies in the Modern Era:
  “Those few moments that a guy gets in January are the defining aspects of the guy’s career.”
  — Dave Dameshek [12:49]

• NFL Kicking & Rules:
  “Every kicker makes a 55-yard field goal… and now the game’s over and it all stinks.”
  — Dameshek [22:46]

• On Kyler Murray’s Development:
  “He has spots which look incredible, but the issue is that he doesn’t sustain that for the entire season.”
  — Tony [21:16]

• Tom Brady’s Career & Reputation:
  “A plague of scandals, Dan. A plague of scandals.”
  — Dave Dameshek [33:06]

• On Elites and Societal Change:
  “It is the elites against all the rest of us. …the powerful speaking up… is what will change society.”
  — Dameshek [26:58]

• Fun with Words:
  “Egad… Is that what Kathy would say in the comics?”
  — Dameshek [41:50]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:01] – Papi & Belichick joke
• [03:05] – “Why isn’t there tickling in MMA?” discussion
• [04:06] – Paradox of injury-prone athletes
• [06:26] – Seattle, Sam Darnold, and big-play offense
• [09:17] – Evaluation of the 2018 NFL quarterback class
• [10:22] – Changing opinions on QBs
• [17:12] – Kyler Murray’s limitations and prospects
• [21:39] – Critique of NFL overtime and kicking rules
• [25:26] – Jimmy Kimmel and Tom Brady as symbols of elite privilege
• [32:44] – Recap of Tom Brady’s controversies
• [37:24] – Dan’s personal story: visiting the Freedom Tower
• [42:37] – FSU vs. Virginia preview and college football betting advice

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Final Thoughts

This episode highlights the show’s ability to balance offbeat sports talk with broader pop culture and society commentary. Both Le Batard and Dameshek challenge the status quo—whether it’s how we judge quarterbacks, critique league rules, or react to media power—and temper it with tongue-in-cheek tales and authentic reflection.

Listeners who missed the show will come away with a strong sense of its lively debates, running jokes, nostalgic references, and the ability to pivot from the ridiculous to the meaningful—often within a single minute.

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[C]

Why are you listening to this show?

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[A]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[E]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[C]

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[C]

Roy just asked me where's Bobby? Because we've seen him rummaging around in the kitchen and I just said to him, I cannot and have never been able to control that old man. He's on his own time. He does whatever it is that he wants. I asked him to come in here. All I heard him say, he didn't even say good morning to me. Do you know what he says to me with breakfast breath? He just says, belichick with an 18 year old girl. That's all he said.

[A]

What?

[G]

That would be news.

[H]

Another girlfriend?

[C]

Well, my father did a little exaggeration when it wasn't Necessary.

[A]

Is Pablo out of the Belichick business?

[C]

It's funny that you mentioned Pablo before we get to Dave Damaschek, because I do not doubt him and I believe that Pablo Torre will indeed be able to keep doing the things like he did with Kawhi Leonard. However, it might be hard given that his last episode is a great question, Tony. Maybe you can answer it, but it's not quite the Kawhi Leonard news. It's just why isn't there tickling in mma?

[A]

Hmm.

[I]

Interesting.

[C]

It's a great question.

[H]

Yeah, there's all the open availabilities for it, right? You got your fingers out of the gloves, you got feet out there, you got armpits, you got coquita. Like it could happen.

[C]

You would disarm your opponent if he is indeed.

[A]

What are these?

[H]

What are they?

[G]

Oh, is it all legal? Ooh, can you do the claw like Carrie Von Erich?

[C]

Yeah, put it on the poll at LeBatard show. I don't know why my father just simply refused to come in here and is now having coffee in the other room with Frankie. I don't know. He just does whatever he wants to. I've never been able to control him. Dave Damaschek, I will tell you again that that Football America show that is on Mondays and Fridays is very good. And we will get his expertise on what it is that we were just talking about here. Marvin Harrison can explain to me why it is that he's not any good because it's. It's confusing to me and they kind of need him to be a number one receiver so that everything that Kyler Murray does doesn't die on the vine.

[A]

Sucks. Well, I'm. I'm assuming that it was the. The model that was David Boston about 25 years ago. Arizona Cardinals receiver who decided to get jacked up like he was in the WWE. And so Marv Harrison Jr. Followed that model. And here are. Now, I have a number of notes for you on what you guys have been talking about so far. By the way, I can Devil's damage a couple of points that you guys have made there so far. I think the great paradox of injury prone. You guys should know this in the Sunshine State, although you're dealing with it now with tua, it must be a Florida based thing because the two biggest names associated with football that I can think of that are considered injury prone guys, or at least were, were Frank Gore of the U, who then had, ironically, about as long a career as anybody ever had. And the other guy who belongs in the hall of Fame, even though the buzz about him was, boy, if he could just stay on the field. Fred Taylor, both of those guys were durable bangers deep into their careers, despite the fact that they were both considered to be injury prone at the front end of their career. So maybe there's some optimism for Tua.

[C]

Do you dispute the point that I was making that you would have trouble finding someone else anywhere in sports more associated. I'm worried he's going to get hurt.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, I think, you know, my hockey brain goes to. To Eric Lindros, who kind of had that and prior to him, Mario Lemieux. But yeah, I think you're. You're spot on. In the year of our Lord 2025, Tua is the face, sadly, of injury prone.

[G]

There was a player in the NBA that people were worried about right now. That player is Kawhi Leonard. And I mean, he's fulfilling that prophecy. But it was like 11 years ago or probably a little bit longer where we were all super worried about Steph Curry's career and those ankles. And we were questioning, who do you build around, Monta Ellis or Steph Curry? Because Steph Curry's ankles are so bad.

[A]

I like my fashion friend Mike there dressed like the Craig Elo era Cleveland Cavalier. Remember when they wore those?

[G]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm glad you mentioned the fit. I am suffering right now. It's a tough punishment. This does not. The CK jeans are little snow.

[C]

Don't show us that part of yourself.

[G]

I have been doing some work on these trims.

[C]

I don't want to see that. Please don't show us that. No, stop doing that. Can you walk us through what it is that you saw last night and what it is that you're seeing from Sam Darnold? When I say the most explosive offense by completion, percentage of passes thrown that go for big plays is somehow a month into the season, Seattle and Sam Darnold.

[A]

It's. It's a good question. Daniel. Are we going with Daniel now? We're going full names.

[C]

I went with Danny through college. My byline in college with Danny, Danny Levitzer that. He's the only one who calls me Danny because that was my byline in college.

[A]

Why'd you change it?

[C]

To be more mature. Because, Billy.

[A]

Oh, God. I didn't change my name.

[C]

I know. You remained Billy. To be. To be not more mature.

[A]

Can I tell you something? I am William David Damasc and my parents saw fit to go with David. But I Contend that. See, Billy did it exactly right. He's Billy as a grown man now. And when you get into the teen years, you feel like, I want to be more mature. I don't want to be like a grown up. And so then you go Bill. And that's not now. Things are all out of whack. If you can make it as an adult. I wish I were Billy Danishek. I think I would be 10 times cooler if that were the case. You wouldn't think, well, okay, debatable. But I'll say this. If either is. Is it a coincidence that two of our five late night hosts still. I mean currently, I mean not last week, but right now, our late night hosts are named Jimmy. Now if they were Jim, if, if it were Jim Kimmel, he would not be a late night host right now. He. The fact that he is Jimmy is a defining sort of. It colors in who he is before you even see him. Right. Jimmy, you know, he's a grown man. He's fun. Yeah.

[G]

John Carson, totally different guy.

[A]

Look what happened to James Corden. He's out of here. Yeah, you see? You see? Proves the point, right?

[G]

Dan, I can help you a little bit in the Sam Darnold conversation.

[A]

Oh yeah, Sam.

[G]

Samuel Darnold.

[A]

Back to Samuel.

[C]

Dynamic's doing whatever he wants.

[F]

Yeah.

[G]

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[A]

Well, it's been seven years since the 2018 draft and, and Mike Ryan was actually on Football America last week and we had this discussion. Is the 2018 QB class because of the rise of Sam Darnold lately. And then a year or three ago when Baker Mayfield kind of turned his thing around, is the 2018 class that obviously also includes Lamar and Josh Allen. Is it now worthy of being on the winner stand up there with the 1983 QB class, Elway Marino, Jim Kelly, Ken O' Brien and the 2004 class, Big Ben, Phil Rivers, Eli Manning. I feels like it is. It points at the fact that just because in the 21st century that the way the draft works and contracts work and. And the term of those deals that you jam your quarterback in there, if you draft him in the first round, you're likely to be playing him in his rookie season. Patrick Mahomes being the looming exception. To that is is that every QB is different and they do not hit the ground running necessarily. Kyler Murray did, but you know, he kind of feels like he's hit a ceiling. Sam Darnold, kind of like Baker Mayfield, I guess, has found, has found success a little deeper into his career and it harkens back to maybe like a Jim Plunkett sort say, though you say.

[C]

Kind of like Baker Mayfield and I don't know what I'm doing here. I do know that it's probably not fair, but it is hard sometimes to change opinions once you've established them. Baker Mayfield has changed my mind, but I always liked Baker Mayfield more than I liked Sam Darnold. I didn't believe in Sam Darnold last year. I believe the Viking season would end the way that it did. And then Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts. He has not yet changed my mind. What am I doing there? Should I change my mind? Am I simply wrong in saying no? I know what Sam Darnold's ceiling is and I'm not going to trust it to win a playoff game. I'm not going to trust either one of those teams last night to be meaningfully good teams that are going to be competing for the super bowl no matter what their record is, even if one of them ends up being what last year's Vikings were. I'm having. I'm making it very hard for Sam Darnold to change my mind and I don't know why I'm doing that. It feels unfair.

[A]

I don't think it's unfair. I mean it's, it's seven years now and 21st century history indicates that if a guy is going to make a Super bowl run, he is more likely to do it in his first five or six years than he is on the other side of that. I do think that it is a real thing that for all the talk in the QB league about who is a QB whisperer, KOC is one of the genuine articles and there are very few of them. And perhaps he really did turn around Sam Darnold in a meaningful way that is carried over into this year. And by the way, that Seahawks team is for real. I think the skepticism about the Cardinals is a little more well placed at this point. But I have been about Mike McDonald since he got there and you know, now that they land the qb. Yeah, I don't think Sam Darnold is a top five quarterback, but I don't think he is a strike against your team in a big game until we prove It. We haven't really seen him outside of last year at 14 and three in the playoffs as he sort of was imploding there. We haven't really seen Sam Darnold in a big spot. But it is. It does point to, as far as I'm concerned, this. This rolling conversation and I heard you with Nick Wright last week. I don't understand. I think he and I park our cars in the same garage on this. This desire. The advanced analytics community has steered us weirdly into this place where the most. The most impactful moments. And there are not a lot of them in a. In a quarterback's career, but those small moments or. Or though. Or. Or those few moments that a guy gets in January are the defining aspects of the guy's career. So you're right, I guess that Sam Darnold hasn't shown us anything yet. So until he does in the big spot, which is in the playoffs, you know, your cynicism where he's concerned is. Is well placed. That's what it's all about. This. This advanced analytics. Too small a sample size to evaluate. You mean the entire point of every season? Who gets the Lombardi? We're going to diminish those moments in favor of what happens in October or in September against the Cardinals.

[G]

Fact.

[C]

Well, you say that you dismiss me with your fair. But we. I've seen Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer win titles and I've seen Dan Marino not.

[A]

And exceptions that prove the rule.

[C]

Okay, fair enough.

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[C]

Can you tell me, Tony and can you tell Damoshek why you're out on Kyler Murray? Because he just said we've seen his ceiling and a couple of weeks ago you said I'm Done watching this. I know what this is. It's not going to get any better. I think he's a wildly exciting quarterback, but I'm watching him in last night's game, like I said, and that that's as bad as he can look in the first half.

[H]

The issue is that with his athleticism, he thinks he can kind of get out of every situation and make a play happen. And to a point, like, yes, he can. Like, you sent me a video the other day of a Carolina game where he scrambled out through 19 guys, made a. Made a run, slid, gained 25 yards. The issue is, I think as a passer, he's kind of regressed a little bit. Dave, you can. You can back me up on this. Like, it feels like there's open throws that he can make that he chooses not to opt in for his athleticism to roll out and try to make something else big happen. He doesn't trust his throws to the middle of the field. I feel like a lot of the stuff he's doing is to the boundaries. If McBride is covered in the middle of the field, like, he kind of doesn't really know what to do. I've just been out on Kyler Murray as a prospect, where now I'm just like, he is what he is. He's a running quarterback that's going to try to get his stuff, but I don't think there's any ceiling like that. Like, this is the ceiling for Kyler Murray. He's an okay guy who's going to give you nine wins on a good. On a good year.

[A]

That sounds about right to me. I mean, he is. There has been little evidence that he can week to week. I mean, that's. That's the book on him, is that he's just good enough to get you. Exactly. Like Tony just said, the 9 and 9 and 8. Ish. Is he the man? I mean, it's. I mean, it's a bad look when he's announcing. I don't really like to study film. I mean, he's. He's the face of the team. So I think that's. That. That any sort of skepticism about this guy is. Is warranted when he is the one announcing that. Yeah, the homework part of it. I'm not into it. When obviously we all understand at this point that's what it's all about. For the most important position in sports.

[C]

Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show worst look for Kyler Murray. I don't really like to watch film or I'm taking a with a pit bull wearing a Michael Vick jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

In fairness to Kyler Murray, we don't. Maybe he's matured since then. That's a narrative that surrounded him a couple years ago, coming off of a outstanding rookie campaign. But I took Dominique Foxworth's advice and I watched a second. I know it's on site. I had a second screen experience with the All 22, and here's what I discovered. No one's getting open for Kyler Murray. No one. You want to talk about the middle of the field. There's only one guy there that gets consistently open for him and he force feeds him the ball. Those wide receivers get zero separation. If anything, I came away super encouraged with Kyler Murray's performance because he was trying to make it happen. He was forcing the ball into tight windows. His receivers were making plays down the stretch, but guys are not getting open for him. That is a very good defense that he went in, went up against. Now, I do think that he's not without criticism. In fact, at one point, the graphics team put up. Kyler Murray has the second worst winning percentage of a starting quarterback, minimum starts in that division in NFL history against the NFC west. And the worst one was Rick Meyer. Rick Meyer didn't play in that division. He was in the AFC West. Kyler Murray barely has a.200 win percentage. And when you think about the Arizona Cardinals, they've been feisty. They've had like one bad year, but they've been feisty. It's surprising that that division has its number, has his number the way that they do.

[H]

So you go to a quarterback coach, right?

[A]

With.

[H]

With Kliff Kingsbury, where he chose like, Rosen was out. Cliff Kingsbury got the job. He said, rosen, you're gone. I'm getting Kyler Murray. And he had time to work with him. Now we see what he did with Jaden Daniel. Jaden Daniels is basically a special player.

[A]

Agreed.

[H]

But that's what they thought Kyler Murray was going to be.

[A]

Right.

[H]

He's got his limitations. And if you look at the second half of his career, as far as second half of the year of his careers, like, he's a really bad quarterback.

[G]

I don't.

[H]

I don't know what happens. Midway through the season, he just completely falls apart. They had a year where they were 11, no best team in football, and then completely collapsed.

[G]

You may be right, but I think last night, Last night, the best player on the field, on the offensive side of the ball, was Kyler Murray.

[A]

I agree with you, he did great last season.

[H]

He has spots, which looks incredible, but the issue is that he doesn't sustain that for the entire season.

[C]

Seattle has beaten them now eight straight times. And like I said, he was sacked six times last night and had to get rid of the ball faster than he ever has to get rid of the ball because he was getting rid of the ball insanely fast. It was always under 2.5 seconds. What are your thoughts there, Damask?

[A]

Danny, I think that the, the thing that stands out to me about last night's game is the horrible ending of it. I mean Kyler, Murray, all the buzz about, about Marv and you know, quitting on plays and all of that and the drops and then he turns it on for the second half and especially that last drive and then the touchdown catch and Kyler as well and all of that and they tie the game improbably. And this is so exciting. And I think we're going to overtime. And I knew it. I knew that the Seahawks were about to get the ball and make one completion and have a field goal shot to win the game. And so they did this, this. I don't want to get into kicking again, Danny, but it is a plague now that the way this is operating that and it keeps happening. It's stealing the drama of the sport, which doesn't make any sense because you would think a last second score to win the game would super exciting. But I think we can agree it's undermining the actual drama of the sport with those terror. I mean the, the weird rules and. Wait, what's going on? What does that mean? That the ball hit there and all of that and, and then, but, but now it doesn't matter because he completed one pass because he started at the 40 yard line and now they get to try to kick a 55 yard field goal. And of course he's gonna make it because every kicker makes 55 yard field goal. And now the game's over and it all stinks.

[C]

Is Aaron Rodgers prioritizing, not getting hit?

[A]

Yes, clearly. Watch him. And I think it's going to get further exposed against the Vikings and Brian Flores this weekend.

[C]

Are the Niners done without Bosa?

[A]

Yes. He's their Jenga piece. And when you remove like a game of Jenga, the critical piece, the whole thing implodes. Their ceiling is lowered. There is no home game in Super Bowl 60 for the Niners.

[C]

Will Philadelphia and Tampa Bay settle the number one seed in the nfc?

[A]

It will. And Mike Ryan's going to be thrilled to hear this with his MVP front runner Baker Mayfield and company are going to win that game outright.

[C]

Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, you are you still of the opinion like you were last week that we're letting them off the hook for not winning during the Mahomes era?

[A]

Of course. What are we letting off? Is Dan Marino not culpable? He did because he didn't win the suit Super Bowl. Well, he was in the same division, same conference as John Elway and and Jim Kelly. I mean was Fran Tarkenton as he let off the hook because he was in the same era as Bradshaw and Staubach and Snake Stabler. This is nonsense. Lamar Jackson to Josh Allen. You are very rich guys for a reason. Prove it. In the big spots come January, is.

[G]

Ameca Buka already going to be the rookie of the year and already a top tier wide receiver in this league?

[A]

Well, clearly he is. But really consider the fact what if they get Evans and Godwin and a.

[C]

Booka Egad E. Gadd and Fair. He has hit.

[G]

What does that mean?

[H]

What language is that?

[G]

Dave, what are your. What are your thoughts on the kickoff rules? We've had a couple season sample now and it's actually kickers are now being more strategic with how they're doing this and it's leading to some wonky plays. Happen to your Steelers.

[A]

It stinks. I mean I. I get that it's for player safety and so obviously we don't want guys getting knocked out cold on the football field for our pleasure. But whatever they're doing now ain't working. It's it. There is I'm not interested investing my limited brain power and understanding what the rules are and what the repercussions are if you don't meet them. It all. It's all terrible. No one is enjoying this. Just do away with it if we have to. Start him at the 25 yard line.

[C]

Football America is a great show. It's on Monday and Friday as part of Meadowlark Media. Thank you for turning that down. As I turn to a serious societal point about Jimmy Kimmel because Damoshek used to be a writer for Kimmel. Jeremy, can you look up for me the formal definitions please of both FE and egad? I'd like to know the definitions for both of those words. Lovely words. I wasn't expecting to hear today. You were a writer for Kimmel. Your thoughts about everything that happened over the last couple of weeks.

[A]

I should explain that maybe the fact came out because I'm drunk on Tylenol right Now I'm not responsible for my own actions. I think that I, you know, I. It felt in the moment and we'll see if it is, if it sustains. But I really do and did feel like watching him that a fever kind of broke there. And I think it, it marries up. Up with the Tom Brady. Weirdly, the Tom Brady booth scandal as much as it's a scandal. Because the, the takeaway for me with Brady sitting there in the booth is and people say, like, he's allowed to do it and why. Here's the question with the Brady thing and I'll get back to the Kimmel thing and I'll try to connect my points.

[C]

You're doing whatever you want. I'm clear on you just doing whatever you want. I'm gonna. I'm eager to hear how it is you're going to make a free speech issue with Jimmy Kimmel about Tom Brady.

[A]

Because Tom Brady represents the grotesquely wealthy. And the thing. Well, he's allowed to do it. If there is no value in Tom Brady sitting in that booth, then why is he doing it? And the reason that he's allowed to do it and the people who goodell on down who forgive him are fellow elites. And it really is. And forgive the reach here, but he is part Nico Toscani, Steven Seagal above the law. And he's got some Humbert Humber to it. Not the darkest parts of Humbert Humbert in Lolita, but the fact that he is this charming, handsome guy is apparently the excuse. Why is Tom Brady. Everybody knows him. He's the face of the league. Come on. He's not doing anything wrong. Except. Except for the plague of scandals that has followed him for 25 years. Never mind all that because his fellow elites let him off the hook with this. And that is the problem right now. It is the elites against all the rest of us. It really is in our society. And I don't want to make too big a deal about the football hero, but then it connects to Kimmel. What is the difference there? It feels good for we, the proletariat to say we canceled our Disney plus subscriptions and that's what carried the day. But really, in my opinion, the fact is it was the, the powerful speaking up and using their voices to say this is wrong. That is what will change society. I really, I really do think that that's what it is going to take. And the reason I say the fever broke is because I do think some elites on either side really spoke up. But it was people using their juice to say, you know, whether it was Howard Stern or David Letterman or otherwise, those people speaking up. And that's what we need for our society to get onto a better track than it's on right now. And I really do think those two things sort of highlight the, I don't know, too big a reach there, Dan.

[C]

It was a substantive reach, but I'll allow it.

[A]

Okay, thank you. Thank you.

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[A]

Let's drive. Don Levatar the judge Coach Sweetie Stugats.

[E]

I should go say hello.

[A]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Well, here's a reach.

[F]

Let's say that Disney believes that nexstar and Sinclair was breach of contract because they preempted Kimmel. Let's say Disney punishes nexstar and Sinclair in those stations by not showing stuff like, I don't know, college football and Monday Night Football. Do you think that can actually happen?

[A]

I, you know, I think that it was, I thought it was great stuff last week as you guys jumped into it, that people don't fully grasp the juice. It's a little in the weeds, I guess, but the way those late night shows work especially and the juice that those, that those affiliate groups have, I think you're exactly right, Roy, that, that is the pushback. That's what I'm talking about is the powerful pushing back at these people that are trying to assert their power. And that would be the greatest and funniest thing in the world. In the meantime, I think the great ratings that Kimmel is getting really is a black eye for those affiliate groups. I mean, imagine if you're in one of, if you're in Seattle, for instance, and you're not getting the Kimmel show, Sinclair or nextar depriving you of it, of course you're going to pound the table for that. But in the meantime, ABC, Disney can really screw those people and say we're going to assert our, our, our juice and take away your football. Deal with that. That's, I mean, that seems to me the way out of the mess that we're in.

[C]

Put it on the poll, please. At lebatard show. Is it fair to say that Tom Brady has been followed by a plague of scandals, as Damoshek just said? I don't know whether that's fair to say.

[A]

Of course it is. It extends the duration of the dynasty at this point. What are we talking about? Of course, it's his entire career as.

[C]

A scandal, an occasional scandal. I don't think it's a plague of scandals.

[A]

But regardless, a plague of scandals, Dan. A plague of scandals. Starting off. When do we meet him? The tuck rule that just a That's just a football one. But of course, the deflated. I have to tell you about deflated footballs and. And videotapes of. Of their playoff foes and. And him getting Jimmy G banished across football America because he doesn't like him as his backup. I mean, what do we. The fact that this guy, again, Nico Toscani of. Of pigskin, is Tom Brady. This is a guy who didn't like that his head coach didn't like that he was steering his teammates into his own rehab facility instead of the team facility. Belichick doesn't like that. That Understandably. So Brady has to get away from Belichick. So he tries secretly to buy the Miami Dolphins and install himself like Warren Beatty in Heaven Can Wait as the starting quarterback. But that doesn't work out because people get wind of that. So he takes the backup, he takes the fall back in Florida and goes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and uses them. He's a mercenary. It is the word. It's the weirdest, worst, most unsatisfying super bowl victory for a city. I've got to think. I don't know how desperate were Tampa Bay football fans to get one. The exchange was a celebration to genuflect to Tom Brady one last time. They were an afterthought in the process. Where the Buccaneers, then he leaves. There, he buys the Raiders. Now he's doing what he's doing whatever he wants. Again. Why? Because he's above the law.

[C]

Dan, if you want more references to the 1976 movie Heaven Can Wait, watch Football America twice a week, Mondays and Fridays on YouTube. Football America show is where you go.

[G]

I can't believe this. Dave did such a great job highlighting the scandals, he forgot one. Remember the Dolphins flirtation and the tampering and he said that.

[C]

I think he said that.

[G]

I mean, like, while he was. He was leveraging that with the Raiders. I mean, real, real bad guy now, I think.

[A]

Oh, yeah, listen, it's not just deep dives into the distant past. We also deep dive into important football luminaries like. Like Tavin Bryant, who factors significantly into why Lamar Jackson is on the Baltimore Ravens right now. We cover that. Of course. Everybody down there in the Sunshine State or Sunshine State remembers the great Taven Bryan when he was toiling for the Florida gate.

[C]

Get out of here. Good talking to you, Dan Shek. We will talk to you next week, sir.

[G]

See you, Dave.

[A]

Can't wait.

[G]

Setting the ship, though. Just this last few weeks, we've had Fox go back on the rules and the league Go back on the rules because they realize, oh, he's in the box and he's listening to all these coaches talk, and he has insight. And also to really clean things up, starting a flag football league in Saudi Arabia. So maybe Dave is onto something.

[C]

Is he indeed being paid $75 million for that? I keep hearing people cite that number, and it doesn't sound like it can be real to me.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

Is he going to play or is he going to coach?

[G]

Or is it his league? Honestly, in retrospect, maybe we were a little hard on Phil Mickelson. I mean, everybody's doing it. You got Messi, you got Ronaldo. You got rumors of LeBron starting a basketball league with him. You got Chappelle.

[A]

Like, wait.

[G]

And let me tell you something, America. We don't exactly have the moral high ground on many countries here, all right?

[C]

But we laundered the blood money, and now it has been successfully laundered.

[G]

Yeah, but we got a superiority complex, pal. Like our human rights record is slowly dwindling.

[A]

Hey. Hey.

[G]

You want to go watch a big time football game?

[H]

Wow.

[G]

Do you want to watch a big time football game? That game last night is exactly why Jonathan Zaslow and I are so locked in on. That's exactly what you want. No team's appreciably better than the other one. Each possession a 25 yard pass. Feeling like it is a massive play.

[A]

That is great football.

[G]

I wish I was there in Arizona. Beautiful uniforms from the Cardinals, too, to watch that game. But I'm sure it was a hot ticket. And if something's a hot ticket, how do you even get in that building, Tony, you download the game time. That's what you do. That's what you do. Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with game time. Download the game time app, create an account and use code. Dan, get $20 off your first purchase. Term supply. Swipe, tap, ticket, Go.

[C]

Tony is about to leave with my father to go over to the Freedom Tower. Can you go get my father, though, and bring him in here personally? Just drag him in here so that we can do refrain del dia with him. We will get to the definitions of fet, the formal definitions of fetish and egadd in a second. But first we have to do as we will do daily until the World Cup. The Ray Hudson call of the day.

[A]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Where he hunts you. Ray Hudson of the day. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Call. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson call of the day. This is what Dan Wanted. This is what Dan wanted of the day. This is one day. This is one day. The coffee house tricks with the back heels. The back heel flick. And cool is Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock. Absolutely imperious. Rodolfo Pizarro and this Bizarro World.

[C]

Where'd my father go, Dan?

[G]

I went to go get him, and.

[H]

And I walked outside, and everybody's like, oh, you're looking for Poppy? And I was like, yeah. They're like, yeah, he left. And I was like, what do you. What do you mean he left? He's like, yeah. He said he'll wait for you at the Freedom Tower. I was like, dan wanted him, like, 45 minutes ago. And he's like, yeah, he just left.

[G]

Rodolfo Pizarro did make me laugh.

[C]

I did want to ask my father. I don't think he's been back to the Freedom Tower since he was processed in America at the Freedom Tower. I don't think he's been back since. But Tony's going to go over there with him.

[H]

I'm super excited about this, Dan. This is a really cool piece of, like, our history.

[C]

It's going to be a private tour. They haven't even opened it back up yet. It's not opening back up until next month. So I'm going to go over there with you after the show.

[H]

All right, I'll see you later.

[C]

Jeremy, can you give me these definitions, please? Because. Is a satisfying word to say. Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show is fair. A satisfying word to say to dismiss someone fair.

[A]

An exclamation is conveying disapproval, displeasure, or disgust used in a sentence. The greatest writer in the English language fe. Egad. Of course. Also an exclamation expressing surprise, anger, or affirmation.

[G]

Tony, make sure you scout out that plot of land next to the Freedom Tower.

[C]

That seems like a valuable plot of land.

[G]

It's just a parking lot just given to the state. For what? You'll find out.

[C]

E Gadd is something I have not heard anyone under 80 years old use.

[A]

Is that what Kathy would say in the comics?

[G]

Trip rip.

[C]

I think. I think that's the only place I've. I think that's the only place I've heard it said other than Damoshek.

[G]

The look of horror on Jeremy's face when he just found out what that plot of land is going to be used for.

[C]

Right. Right next to us. Yes, Right next.

[A]

You didn't know what that was here?

[G]

Oh, yeah, yeah. State is voting on it, and State is controlled by I'm moving to New York.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Next. That finished second next, right next to the Freedom Tower. Will it block. Do we know how high, how much of the airspace is going to be?

[A]

It'll the tallest, the biggest and the tallest, don't you worry, Dan.

[C]

Are they, Are they going to block our view? Is it literally going to block my view?

[G]

All of this will age extremely well in a couple of years. Don't worry about it.

[C]

It's a giant college football week and Mike Ryan has been delighting in the fact that the Virginia line keeps going down. FSU is now. Is it now FSU favored by six or six and a half?

[G]

Six and a half. This is a very spooky game for fsu. I think we're going to learn a lot. Now, FSU undoubtedly impressive against Alabama, but watching that back and there's a lot of social media lowlights out there. Was this more about fsu? Was this about Alabama being completely unprepared? There's some daming video out there of guys being totally out of position, loafing around on the field. And since then, Alabama, even though suspect teams, they seem to have righted the ship somewhat. So I'm really curious. On the road at Virginia, we saw a lot of Miami teams that we thought might be for real that got us excited at the start of the season go to Charlottesville and lose in a conference game. This Chandler Morris offense of Virginia's can move the ball. I'm curious to see what kind of defense we see from fsu. Casalanos has been on the record saying in practice I'm seeing the best defense I'll see all year. And so far he's been proven right. But they played one of the worst FCS teams ever, Kent State. One for the record books. This team, this Kent State team may be worse than last year's. So I'm very curious to see how this goes and I'm taking the who's with the points.

[C]

I'm going to do this. I don't normally do this.

[A]

The town on alert.

[C]

I am going to tell you that I would parlay money lines of Ole Miss and Virginia to win the games outright. I will also tell you I'm a truly, epically terrible gambler.

[G]

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[A]

You.

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