The Big Suey: Father of the Year (feat. David Samson)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Father of the Year (feat. David Samson) The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: May 21, 2025

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Introduction of Guest and Unusual Name Discussions ([01:05] - [04:15])

The episode kicks off with the introduction of guest David Samson, setting the stage for a light-hearted yet insightful conversation. The hosts, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz (Jon Weiner), Mike Ryan, and David Samson, delve into the rarity of individuals named Rodney, particularly focusing on the intersection of race and ethnicity in naming conventions.

Notable Quote:

David Samson ([02:11]): "Did you know that Rod Carew was black?"

This question sparks a deeper exploration into the identities of various Rodneys and their backgrounds, highlighting the diversity often overlooked in sports personalities.

Race, Religion, and Sports Personalities ([04:15] - [07:19])

The discussion transitions into the complexities of racial and religious identities, particularly within the Jewish community. The conversation touches upon figures like Rodney Karu and the representation of black Jews in sports, challenging common perceptions and stereotypes.

Notable Quotes:

Dan LeBatard ([04:08]): "Rod Carew was black."

David Samson ([04:15]): "Everyone knows."

The hosts debate the recognition of racial identities in sports, using Bryce Harper and Ron Harper as focal points to discuss how names and appearances can lead to misconceptions.

Bryce Harper vs. Ron Harper: A Comparative Analysis ([07:19] - [10:16])

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to comparing baseball star Bryce Harper with Ron Harper, a name shared by two different athletes from distinct sports backgrounds. The hosts analyze Harper's achievements, batting statistics, and career trajectories, juxtaposing them against Ron Harper's basketball legacy.

Notable Quotes:

Mike Ryan ([07:07]): "If you really want to play this game, Ron Harper's son Dylan Harper is gonna be a top five pick in the NBA draft."

Jon Weiner ([05:17]): "There's no way that an actor named Michael B. Jordan."

The conversation highlights the confusion stemming from shared names and the importance of recognizing individual achievements beyond nomenclature.

WNBA Narratives and Business Implications ([10:16] - [13:12])

The hosts shift focus to the WNBA, discussing the controversial storyline involving players Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. They critique the league's strategy in leveraging player rivalries to boost viewership and revenue, questioning the long-term sustainability of such narratives.

Notable Quotes:

Mike Ryan ([10:17]): "This is the discourse that is going to be paying the bills."

Jon Weiner ([11:22]): "The people who pay the bills do not want this narrative."

The discussion underscores the tension between authentic sports storytelling and commercially driven content, emphasizing the need for a solid foundational growth in the league.

NFL's International Expansion and Super Bowl Considerations ([13:12] - [26:55])

A comprehensive debate ensues about the NFL's aspirations to expand internationally, including the ambitious idea of hosting Super Bowls outside the United States. The hosts analyze the logistical, financial, and cultural challenges associated with such expansions, referencing historical efforts like the Concorde’s impact on international travel.

Notable Quotes:

Jon Weiner ([23:50]): "Has there been real innovation in the aerospace industry in our lifetime?"

Mike Ryan ([25:12]): "You might have people blocking draft picks. The way that Eli did when he didn't want to go to San Diego."

The hosts conclude that while international expansion presents opportunities for growth, significant hurdles remain, particularly in travel logistics, taxation, and union negotiations.

Personal Anecdotes: Graduation Experiences ([26:55] - [34:44])

Transitioning from sports to personal life, the conversation turns to the often tedious aspects of attending multiple graduations. David Samson shares his overwhelming experiences of tracking numerous graduation events, leading to a humorous yet relatable discourse on balancing parental obligations with personal time.

Notable Quotes:

Jon Weiner ([28:10]): "Like, how hard could it be to have a Super Bowl in Madrid or in Rome."

David Samson ([29:48]): "I'm so proud of them, I grant you, but God damn it, that was so many graduations."

This segment highlights the universal struggle of managing time and emotional investment in significant life events.

Motorsports Highlights: Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson ([34:44] - [42:43])

The episode shifts to the world of motorsports, spotlighting Tony Stewart’s unique achievement of competing in both the Indianapolis 500 and NASCAR’s Coca-Cola 600 on the same day—a feat never before completed. The discussion also covers Kyle Larson’s attempts to replicate this challenge, emphasizing the demanding nature of motorsport careers.

Notable Quotes:

Mike Ryan ([35:35]): "He's the only person that ever did."

Jon Weiner ([36:40]): "If he does, it's the single greatest motorsports achievement we've ever seen."

The hosts express admiration for the athleticism and dedication required to master multiple racing disciplines simultaneously.

Movie Review: "Joy: The Birth of IVF" ([39:15] - [40:50])

David Samson offers a thoughtful review of the 2024 film "Joy: The Birth of IVF," highlighting its portrayal of the groundbreaking development of in vitro fertilization. The review praises the film’s educational value and emotional depth, recommending it to a broad audience.

Notable Quotes:

Jon Weiner ([39:15]): "It’s based on a true story, quite obviously, and I love when I get to watch movies and learn."

The segment underscores the importance of cinematic narratives in shedding light on significant scientific advancements and their societal impacts.

Listener Engagement and Boldest Takes ([40:59] - End)

In the latter part of the episode, the hosts engage with listener submissions, sharing bold takes and humorous comments. This interactive segment fosters a sense of community and showcases the hosts' ability to blend sports commentary with everyday relatable topics.

Notable Quotes:

Dan LeBatard ([42:43]): "Over."

Mike Ryan ([42:43]): "Over."

These brief exchanges illustrate the show's dynamic and entertaining interaction with its audience.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully navigates a variety of topics, from the nuances of sports personalities' identities to the intricacies of league expansions and personal anecdotes about life’s milestones. The inclusion of guest David Samson adds depth to discussions on race and religion, while the analysis of sports figures like Bryce and Ron Harper provides insightful comparisons. Additionally, the thoughtful critique of WNBA narratives and the ambitious exploration of NFL’s international aspirations highlight the show's commitment to addressing both current trends and long-term implications in the sports world. Interspersed with personal stories and listener interactions, the episode offers a comprehensive and engaging experience for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Overall Notable Quotes:

• David Samson ([02:11]): "Did you know that Rod Carew was black?"
• Mike Ryan ([10:17]): "This is the discourse that is going to be paying the bills."
• Dan LeBatard ([04:08]): "Rod Carew was black."
• Jon Weiner ([39:15]): "It’s based on a true story, quite obviously, and I love when I get to watch movies and learn."
• Mike Ryan ([35:35]): "He's the only person that ever did."

These quotes encapsulate the central themes of identity, narrative control, educational content, and remarkable achievements discussed throughout the episode.

Transcript

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[David Sampson]

Why are you listening to this show?

[Jon Weiner]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Dan LeBatard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[David Sampson]

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[David Sampson]

We welcome in David Sampson. Nothing personal is the name of the podcast. You catch it wherever you get podcasts. David, we were musing that the existence of the white Rodney is rather rare. I met one in the wild yesterday. But as we've been in the break we started picked you up at the airport, man. Not the wild. Well, I mean, it's a wild like. Like I just ran into a Rodney. I wasn't searching for one, but ST has provided me with two in the break. Which one's Stug?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, Rod Laver.

[David Sampson]

Rod Laver's a Rodney? Yeah. Who was the other one? Rod Ku. Oh, Rod K. Rodney Karu. Yes. David Sam Jewish.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

Well, and then.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then I found Rod Morgenstein. Here we are. Finally. A steamer stein.

[David Sampson]

David, do you have any other white Rodneys to add to the proceedings?

[Jon Weiner]

No, because I can't get past Tidwell.

[David Sampson]

Rod Tidwell.

[Jon Weiner]

That's it. Like you say, Rod that's the only place I go. I go right to Gooding Jr. I go right to Jerry Maguire. I couldn't think of Rod Laver. I couldn't think of Rodney Mott may be an NBA referee.

[David Sampson]

Yes, Rodney Mott is an NBA referee. Rodney Knott is also black, though. But Rock Crew is Rock Career is black?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

I thought you said Jewish.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no.

[Mike Ryan]

He converted to Judaism.

[David Sampson]

He's black and he's Jewish.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes, you can be black.

[David Sampson]

Did you make rock career white? I did.

[Jon Weiner]

Stugatz, I believe we have to stop for a minute because Amin just actually thought that there's only white Jews.

[David Sampson]

I didn't think that. But if you tell me there's a Jewish. Jesus was Jewish. Yes, Jesus was Jewish.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's going to picture David Eckstein if you say there's a Jewish, Jewish baseball.

[David Sampson]

Player or like Sandy Koufax or whatever. Like. Like think about people converting as much. Obviously, there are a lot of Ethiopian Jews. Right. Who are all black. So I know the existence of black Jews. They're also the people on 42nd street, the lost tribes of Israel. They're Israelites of some sort.

[Mike Ryan]

We used to do the show at the Miami Gardens.

[David Sampson]

They used to be there.

[Mike Ryan]

They were out there.

[David Sampson]

Oh, man, I love the hype man guy. He's got the easiest job because the one guy will say the Bible says. He said, and the Bible be saved. I'm like, that's your whole job? Just to repeat what he said?

[Mike Ryan]

Honestly, I honestly had no idea about them until, like, I was driving into work one day. I'm like, what's going on here with all these costumes?

[David Sampson]

Oh, man, that's. It's like they're dressed like. It's like the Crusade.

[Dan LeBatard]

Interesting note on Karoo. There's no evidence that he ever actually formally converted to Judaism himself, but he wore a high necklace while he was playing, and all of his daughters ultimately were bat mitzvahed.

[Jon Weiner]

But definitely black.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a fact.

[Jon Weiner]

Definitely.

[David Sampson]

Okay, how about that? Put that in the suis. Put that in the poll. Did you know that Rod Carew was black?

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone knows.

[Mike Ryan]

Everybody knows that.

[Jon Weiner]

100 0.

[David Sampson]

This is. I'm tell. I'm going tell you what it's like. It's exactly like when they told me when Bryce Harper was either a rookie or second year, he was in the Home Run Derby. And they said Bryce Harper's dad is pitching to him. His dad, Ron Harper. And I was like, huh? I didn't know Bryce Harper was black.

[Mike Ryan]

Ronald Harper.

[David Sampson]

No, they said Ron Harper So that. So I'm like, oh. And so for a couple years, I was like, yeah, man. Like, I didn't know because I didn't.

[Mike Ryan]

Know what price Harper looked like with jeans.

[David Sampson]

So then, so then they were like, no, price, Harper's not black. I'm like, well, his dad's Ron Harper. Right? And it's a. No. His dad is named Ron Harper. But it's not that Ron Harper. I'm like, you don't get to call yourself Ron Harper.

[Dan LeBatard]

Then were you listening to the Home Run Derby, like on the radio or something?

[David Sampson]

I was on SportsCenter in the background. I was doing SportsCenter that day. I wasn't paying attention. You know, I don't watch this shit.

[Mike Ryan]

You sure weren't.

[David Sampson]

But the point, the idea that, like, someone can walk around. First of all, we need to know what Bryce Harper's dad's name is. We don't. We really don't. Did his dad play anything? No. Okay. Don't need to know his name. Second of all, if his name is Ron Harper, guess what? It's no longer Ron Harper. It's Ronald Harper.

[Jon Weiner]

Wow. So there can't be an actor named Michael B. Jordan.

[David Sampson]

Michael B. Jordan. Not Michael Jordan. You can be Ronald B. Harper. Ron B. Harper.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[David Sampson]

But you can't be Ron Harper. That's fair. That's. That's Ron Harper or something. Ron F. Harper. Please say the F. No one who.

[Jon Weiner]

Is a fan of Bryce Harper is aware of. Couldn't pick Ron Harper out of a crowded room.

[Mike Ryan]

He looks like him though, right? This is that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Which Ron Harper?

[David Sampson]

Yeah, which Ron Harper.

[Jon Weiner]

The basketball player.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, he's tall.

[David Sampson]

No, everyone knows a very tall point.

[Mike Ryan]

Guard for his day.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, we know Ron Harper because. But if you talk to baseball fans who are watching Bryce Harper, my guess is they're not solely focused on Ron Harper. You're forgetting, when was the last time Ron Harper got into uniform? I may be having some timing issues, but I'm thinking, you know, 2002.

[David Sampson]

When last time Ron Harper was a name?

[Jon Weiner]

No, when did he last play?

[Dan LeBatard]

2001. He was an assistant coach for the Pistons. 2005 to 2007.

[Jon Weiner]

He's 61. I mean. Nope, no one knows who that is.

[David Sampson]

Put on the poll. Do you know who Ron Harper is also?

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the poll. Can you follow more than one sport? Is this weird? Take Ron Harper won five NBA titles.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, yeah. How many has Bryce Harper won?

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a two time Mac Player of the year. I mean, come on.

[David Sampson]

How many? How many player of the year awards is Bryce Harper. Well, okay, that's one, two, one player.

[Jon Weiner]

Of the two to one, two to one.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, he also jumped straight from high school to the pros. He's an eight time all star.

[Mike Ryan]

His dad was actually a bit of a higher profile because of the prodigious nature. Right. Bryce Harper's, you know, career, let's be.

[David Sampson]

Honest, Ron didn't win a thing. I mean, Michael won him five champions. Hold on, hold on, hold on. First of all, he won five things. Three.

[Jon Weiner]

He didn't really.

[Mike Ryan]

And he didn't win them. He didn't win them all with Michael.

[David Sampson]

He had two with the Lakers.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bryce was a two time, by the way.

[Mike Ryan]

So two time player of the year technically.

[David Sampson]

And if you really want to play this game, Ron Harper's son Dylan Harper gonna be a top five pick in the NBA draft. I'm saying it right now, gonna be better than Bryce Harper. This Ron Harper son will be better than that. Ron Harper's son.

[Dan LeBatard]

How about that is a take.

[Jon Weiner]

That's ridiculous.

[David Sampson]

We're gonna put seed versus seed.

[Mike Ryan]

This is really actually fulfilling one of.

[Dan LeBatard]

The greatest players of his generation.

[David Sampson]

Okay, what do you think Dylan Harper is?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, wasn't Bryce Harper on the COVID of SI while he was in high school? Still, Bryce Harper's lived up to the expectations.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes, he's LeBron James basically. But here's something that Ron Harper did for Bryce Harper with the, the other Ron Harper got it. The one who's not the NBA player, had him go to a college which basically skirted the draft rules and made him eligible to be drafted and get a huge bonus from the Nationals. When they had back to back one ones, they had Straussberg who ended up being a World Series mvp and Bryce Harper. And it became, they, they closed some loops because of Ron Harper. So there was, if you go back and read about Bryce and many people don't focus on this, he was able to get himself out of school into a different type of school which enabled him to then be draft eligible.

[David Sampson]

You know who didn't have to do that? The other Ron Harper.

[Jon Weiner]

Crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because Bryce Harper as a kid, like when he was on the COVID of Sports Illustrated in 2009 as the Chosen One. Like LeBron, remember he was going to be a catcher.

[Jon Weiner]

Catcher.

[Dan LeBatard]

He was drafted as a catcher. If they would have like obviously the right decision to not let him be a catcher long term, he's going to have a much longer career because of it. He probably would have gotten banged up. But if he had had even A five year run as a catcher with the type of hitter he is, we would have been talking about him and his peak as like one of the greatest peaks in the history of baseball.

[Jon Weiner]

Respectfully, that's not interesting. That's. That's Joe Maurer.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, hold on a second. Bryce harbor, way better hitter than Joe Maurer.

[David Sampson]

No doubt.

[Dan LeBatard]

And Joe Maurer's all like all time great as a catcher. But. But Bryce Harper and the power, like the power speed combination.

[Jon Weiner]

I mean, David, you're forgetting how good Joe Maurer was for a big number of years. Now, I understand that there's a hot take if you. But you know Stu Gott's take that Joe Maurer is not hof worthy. But I said first ballot worthy. First ballot worthy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Jon Weiner]

He's really good.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't want to be the one to shit on Joe Maurer here. I think Joe Mawer is like an unbelievable hitter. I was the only one to defend Joe. Matt.

[David Sampson]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am volunteering.

[David Sampson]

Like the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bryce Harper would have been better. Is it crazy to say that Bryce Harper at the catcher position is the type of hitter here? I don't even know why we're in this conversation. This is my own fault. I mean, but like, everyone thought Buster Posey was going to be great and.

[Mike Ryan]

He kind of was pretty great.

[David Sampson]

Didn't Harper leave the Nationals and they.

[Jon Weiner]

Won the World Series the next year?

[Dan LeBatard]

Buster Posey ruined baseball, if I'm going.

[Mike Ryan]

To be perfectly honest, because of the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Buster Posey ruined baseball because he couldn't take a hit from Scott Cousins. And that's the fact.

[Mike Ryan]

I had a feeling you'd invoke Scott Cousins there. Fsu good at churning out catchers for.

[David Sampson]

So if we're keeping track of home. Ron Harper adds championships to his teams. Bryce Harper, not so much. It kind of negates it. He goes away, they start winning. That's not a good look.

[Mike Ryan]

I have a question.

[David Sampson]

Plus, minus.

[Mike Ryan]

I have a question that'll kind of switch gears a little bit. It's a. It was yesterday's topic du jour. But I'm curious to get your perspective because the WNBA is in a curious position when it comes to this Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark thing. Because it is good for business. It is getting. My dad was FaceTiming me yesterday and he was talking to me about the Angel Reese segment that Stu and Dan had. This is the storyline in the league and anyone that tries to convince themselves otherwise isn't necessarily in tune with what's going on.

[Jon Weiner]

Now.

[Mike Ryan]

It may be a discourse that they're not a fan of. It may be a discourse that they're openly against. And I understand, I understand that juju spoke to it yesterday, but this is the discourse that is going to be paying the bills. This is the discourse that is going to be getting eyes to that league whenever Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark play. So how does the league navigate this?

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, I do not believe this is the discourse that pays the bills. This is the heroin discourse. To me, it feel and I don't mean heroin with the females. I mean the drug. No e. This feels really good. I've heard right when you do it and then all of a sudden it's really bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Chasing the dragon.

[David Sampson]

Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

So this is a way to try to jump start something to achieve a value that you believe you deserve to have, will have, could have. And this is the shortcut to it. The problem is when you're building up franchise valuations or. Or building up sponsor relationships as you head into a collective bargaining negotiation where the players say they could walk out, they want to be treated like unrivaled treated them, and they view this as the cotton candy. Look at all the ratings. Look at what we're getting. Look at this rivalry. It's total poppycock. The people who pay the bills do not want this narrative. They do not want to pay for this narrative. They don't want any part of it. Why? Because Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, if you're going to do it, you do it on the court.

[David Sampson]

Doing the playoffs.

[Jon Weiner]

You are not in the position as a league right now to have this as your revenue driver.

[David Sampson]

Brown sugar. The. Yeah, like here's the thing. For years, I'm not saying it's good, but I'm just saying for years people have complained that the establishment doesn't pay attention to women's sports. And now it is. And it's doing it in a ham handed, contrived, lazy sort of way, which, by the way, is how we do every goddamn sport.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, this is my point. This is equality.

[David Sampson]

This is equality.

[Mike Ryan]

You have like the annoying topic. Welcome to Tim Tebow world. And should Dak Prescott get an extension? Like, this is you guys making it.

[David Sampson]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

This is everything. This is what you've always wanted.

[David Sampson]

This is what it is. Did you think it was a hollow cathedral where we were actually doing real analysis?

[Mike Ryan]

We're talk push pushes for like four weeks straight.

[David Sampson]

We just did 10 minutes on Bryce Harper versus Ron Harper in a way that's lazy without information. You have made it.

[Jon Weiner]

You're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

This is a Congratulations football. I mean, what's that? David?

[Jon Weiner]

They're. I'm sorry, they're not ready for this discourse. You're wanting to put the WNBA in this place where it would be part of the cathedral of topics that we would discuss in the media and the sort of insane way that we would look at things. That is a mature league that gets those discussions. And I want to point this out on the business side, there's a big difference when you talk about leagues that have established media rights deals that have established billion dollar valuations versus when you talk about startup leagues or fledgling leagues. In order for a fledgling league, which is what the WNBA is, please do not make a mistake. This league is supported by the NBA and the owners. These teams lose money. Their values have not gone up in any measurable way. Hard stop. The broadcast deals were handed to them and now the players believe that because of all of this attention that they're getting off the court. And the numbers that have been good on the court, I grant you, yes, they out drew the Yankees, Mets subway series game on espn. I get you, but you're missing foundation. And so the analogy I would give you is that when you build a building and you forget the rebar, you may get to take the elevator one time before it comes crumbling down. The better way to do it is you build with rebar and you build it appropriately and you build it over time and then it becomes strong and valuable. Then we get to do all the lazy takes and all the talks that we talk about off the court rivalries, etc. Etc. It's just not yet. David, I'm wondering your thoughts here about flag football being an Olympic sport. If you were an NFL owner, would you want one of your players playing in the Olympic playing flag football in the Olympics? No chance, right? This was an interesting vote here, Stuart. What I thought happened here is the NFL gets its cake and they get to eat it too. They get to announce a unanimous approval of for NFL players to play in the Olympics. They get to not go sideways against Washington, where the current president is very pro patriotism, who's not very pro Olympics, as though we're back in the Cold war. Hey, we're going to let our best players out here win as many gold medals as possible. It's in L. A, we're home, we've got to win. But what's happening on the side? Is that what the NFL owners are saying? We're giving this to the players. We're saying, good, you can play. For all of you who've spoken up and said, oh, we'd be interested. We want our chance at gold. But here's what we want in return. We want 18 weeks. We want an international game every single weekend. And when we start negotiating our next cba, this is the trade. You want us to give you permission and fully ensure the fact that. That you can play. It won't count against the cap. If you get hurt, fine. But guess what? We want something in return. That's how these negotiations work.

[Mike Ryan]

David, I'm curious if you know the answer to this. How much money is in the international games for the NFL? Because it's not a separate TV package. Maybe that's the end game spends, but is this just a ticket sales revenue type of play? I. Why is the league, according to you, going to be forcing this issue? We want an international game. Is that just. It serves a greater good if we spread the game around. Around that will ultimately help the bottom dollar. Or is there a legit current business to this model?

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah. What do you do when you rule everything that you see? What do you think you do?

[Mike Ryan]

Try to see more.

[Jon Weiner]

You try to see more. You go up a little higher to see if you can see more. That's what the NFL is doing. That's what MLB and the NBA are all trying to find ways to get out of the American market to get. Whether it's promotion money, which you get, because they're promoters who actually pay to host games. And then you get extra merch, extra tickets. There are extra TV deals that are done internationally and with streamers. You only get different markets. You don't get the world. You have to pay for different parts of the world. But the NFL, they want to conquer new frontiers. It's the oldest form of capitalism in the world. The more you have, the more you want. And the more you get, the more you strive to get more. And that's what the NFL is doing. And they've been pretty overt about this. God bless.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I just assume that it's actually a presently. Presently a booming business for them because we're not early into this European expansion project for the NFL. It's going on what, 15? We're close to 20 years on them dabbling in trying to increase that market. They keep doing it. They keep increasing the numbers. So I imagine there's a lot of money in these international games presently. It's not just serving the greater good.

[Jon Weiner]

There is not. There's actually not. MLB does not make a ton of money on international games. Neither does the NBA. You're paying the players more the expenses are more. But what it is it, you always want the illusion. If you're starting a business and you've got one store or one point of sale, but then you can say that, oh, we opened a second store or a third store, you're not telling people what your revenue is per store when you're first starting your business. You're just giving the illusion that there's growth, that it's, it's cool, it's exciting, it's, it's an upward trajectory. The NFL has been doing this for a super long time and they're going to keep going, but you're seeing incremental changes. I, I can't remember the year. You guys will know there used to be one international game.

[David Sampson]

Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

And now it feels like what, what do they announce this year? 6 or 7. Including Ireland and Germany.

[David Sampson]

Madrid.

[Jon Weiner]

Believe me, in the next three years it will be more than double digit international games. More and more countries hosting. Because it's the old story. You always want more than you have, even if it's only a small increment.

[Dan LeBatard]

Folks, listen up. The time has come to get some new golf clubs. And that means one thing. Heading over to my local PXG store for a fitting. They make the best golf clubs, period. Roy, I know you need new clubs, right? You're in that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I need new clubs, man. My clubs are way too short. I need to get longer clubs. I need new.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

Oh, absolutely. I need to work on my short game. So these clubs are definitely, I think.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, well, you know, I got the long drives though.

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jon Weiner]

This guy comes in as the next Wayne Gretzky. His nicknames include the chosen1 and McJesus. Okay. He's a great player. He scores a lot of goals. He scores a ton of assists. But it hasn't translated to making Edmonton a powerhouse in the league.

[Mike Ryan]

In the final Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's your nickname for him?

[Jon Weiner]

Look overrated.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Jon Weiner]

David, when, if ever, do you think the NFL takes the next huge step, which is a team based internationally or a Super bowl that isn't in the United States? I think as soon as they bring back supersonic jets and there is some talk once the Concorde crashed, that was the end.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

Do you know what the. Have you ever heard of the Concorde?

[David Sampson]

Are they bringing the Concord back?

[Mike Ryan]

There have been people, there's been rumors, oh, we're back.

[Jon Weiner]

This is. This is a big deal. There has not been. This is a crazy thing to think about for those of us who are old. And so, Greg, I'll address this to you.

[David Sampson]

Thank you.

[Jon Weiner]

Has there been real innovation in the aerospace industry in our lifetime?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, it still takes removing outer space tourism.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, but that doesn't help me get to a game faster.

[Mike Ryan]

No. In fact, many would argue we've taken a step back lately.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes, yes, we certainly could argue that. Especially if you ever use ewr. I would say that if the ability to travel overseas to London, if you can lower that time from New York and get it down to three to a three and a half hour flight and you make it so you can go play more than one game there, the way the Vikings are this year, the way the Jaguars have done in the past, you make it so it's easier for teams to play multiple games. You will see international games, you may see an international division, and then you will see an international Super Bowl. Greg, you and I will still have a microphone in front of us. God willing, there will be an international Super Bowl.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[David Sampson]

I feel like it shouldn't be that hard, should it, to have an international Super Bowl.

[Mike Ryan]

I think the bigger issue is probably taxes and working that out with the players union. You oversaw a team in a different country and that was just Canada. And it was certainly complicated. I mean, whole different tax structure over in Europe. A lot of players wouldn't be excited to go there. You might have people blocking draft picks. The way that Eli did when he didn't want to go to San Diego. Right.

[Jon Weiner]

David, let me give you a shout out to Revenue Quebec. It is the biggest. It makes the IRS look fantastic. It is such a pain in the neck for players who are dealing with Canada taxes. You get credits for US taxes, but you have to fight for. If they're dollar for dollar. It's a whole Mella. When you play 81 of your games in Canada, which is half of your salary gets taxed at in Canada. It's a complete pain in the neck to cross the border back and forth all these times. So you're right. It is a, a, it is a definite lift. And if you are playing in London and you have small kids, it's a big union issue because you can't just go back and forth as you easily. Which brings us back to the supersonic jet because you can have your family live in New York and play for Houston and the union doesn't say a word about it. And if the flying time becomes somewhat similar to get to a different place, you're just going east instead of west. I think that that can happen.

[David Sampson]

But David, a Super bowl though, again, I go back like you guys are talking in terms of a team being based overseas. Yes, that can be complicated to have a Super Bowl.

[Mike Ryan]

Why is that such a big deal? What like what Minnesota gets a Super Bowl.

[David Sampson]

I'm like, like, how hard could it be to have a Super bowl in, in Madrid or in Rome or.

[Mike Ryan]

That would seem to be the way to actually usher in a new era of European expansion for the NFL is start with the super bowl and then announce all these other things.

[Dan LeBatard]

But you started on our time.

[David Sampson]

Or do we start it on Madrid's.

[Jon Weiner]

Time because there's six hours ahead.

[Mike Ryan]

No, the NFL is always, the NFL is always considered Europe when it comes to the super bowl starts. It's always. It's not a prime time start. They try to increase the audience. It's usually like a 6:15ish sort that does consider international markets.

[Jon Weiner]

Well, that's pretty late though. Six if it. When the super bowl that starts it. I think kickoff is normally 629 eastern. Yeah, that's, that's 11:30 if you're, if.

[Mike Ryan]

You'Re a rights holder, you kind of want the prime time.

[David Sampson]

It's Sunday. Do a 1pm kickoff.

[Jon Weiner]

Like what's the big change?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, like a 330 is fine. One o' clock's fine because it's 8:30 in, in the UK. I mean we're getting down in the Weeds here.

[Jon Weiner]

So let's. Let's take it back a little macro. The way owners vote on Super Bowls is where they want to be. Because unlike the other sports, every owner goes to the Super Bowl. No owners go to the World Series. I mean, I would bet you a dollar they don't go that two owners at most go to the NBA Finals, maybe zero. But in the super bowl, they all go. And they want to go where it's nice. It's why Miami is always a great choice. Vegas, obviously, L.A. obviously, Minnesota was less than ideal. But when you have to get a Super bowl in order to get a publicly funded stadium and the trade that's made, owners are willing to give in on that because they want the new facilities going to Europe, not the end of the world. But it's not a great time of year in early February in any of these big European cities. London's weather in February.

[David Sampson]

Terrible.

[Jon Weiner]

Terrible.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, David, you've been having a busy couple of days here with graduations, right? Kids are graduating. It's the cycle of life, guys, right? The baby bird comes out of the shell and grows up. And then one day it's got to leave the nest and fly and so have. You're tough to sit through, though. I mean, they are. Dude. I'm brutal. Incredibly long. Incredibly long. And I've never. Well, I guess I've been to like my kids middle school graduation. That doesn't count. But I've walked for my graduate and undergraduate degrees and it was a big waste of time. I didn't do it because I wanted to do it. I did it because my family was there. I was like, they want to see this, so let me just go ahead and do it.

[Jon Weiner]

So again, I'm not saying that I'm a candidate for father of the year by any stretch. What I am saying is that I have a note on my phone where I keep track of a lot of stuff. I would like to read to you the following. 06, 09, 09, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 17, 20, 20, 21, 21, 25, 25, 25. I've kept track of graduations since 2006 in my phone, of obligations that I would have to go to. And I just finished. I swear to you, yesterday was the final final when my daughter became a doctor. And I'm so proud of them, I grant you, but God damn it, that was so many graduations. I lost my mind, Stu. It was hours. I don't care that I have to watch 80 other people get hooded and then watch 200 people get their name called. I'm there for my two seconds. Give me a slot and I will show up for the slot. It's like the best recitals for a 4 year old. I don't want to sit there 8 hours to watch my daughter do 3 minutes of a dance.

[David Sampson]

I'm. I'm kind of with you on this, David. Totally with him on, dude. It's like, it's. That's a lot of. By the way, graduations are boring.

[Jon Weiner]

Very boring.

[David Sampson]

And you get someone so boring, someone has to come give a speech. And they're. And they do the whole like, you're gonna go out into the world and you're gonna change the world. I'm like, shut up, shut up. We all want to get out of here.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, it was great the first time when you're, you know, a child graduates kindergarten. Yeah.

[David Sampson]

You didn't even short one kindergarten.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, it was not short.

[Jon Weiner]

Really?

[David Sampson]

How big was your kindergarten class?

[Mike Ryan]

It wasn't that big, but they were celebrating multiple classes. It was like two. Two hours.

[David Sampson]

But also. But I'm just saying as a, as a participant, forget about being a parent as a kid. I'm just sitting there waiting for them to call my name, twiddling my. Oh, that's just me. Go up there, you take your picture and that's it, right? And so now when you extrapolate it from kindergarten and then middle school graduation, high school graduation, then you get to college graduation, right? It's like, okay, we've done this before. But the college one, not only is it the biggest one with the most people, but it's got these speeches. And the speeches are sanctimonious as hell. Like, who the hell are you to tell me I'm gonna go out in the world and make a change that I wanna see and all that stuff. Shut up. Get to the point. Make it fast. We want to get out of here. I want to eat with my family. I want to hug my mom. I want to take pictures. I don't want to sit here listening to you wax poetic about where the world is and how it needs me.

[Mike Ryan]

Mr. Gags, who's the person that gives the speech during these graduation classes?

[David Sampson]

Starts with a V. I have no idea.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, you trying to.

[David Sampson]

The valid Victorian, the valedictorian. There it is.

[Mike Ryan]

Gotta remember your own bits, Victor.

[Jon Weiner]

Something.

[Mike Ryan]

But also you gotta know your teammates. A 17 year old called callback. Really? Oh, no. He remembers. No, heads up. He absolutely remembers.

[Jon Weiner]

Mike.

[David Sampson]

What, David? What was the most memorable thing of yesterday's graduation? For you.

[Jon Weiner]

I mean, it's cool to hear your child named as a doctor. I get it. Like, that's interesting. So I'm in. And it was cool to watch my son graduate. The coolest part was that I got to run into the owner of the Cardinals who I hadn't seen in seven.

[David Sampson]

Or the baseball.

[Jon Weiner]

No, sorry. Funny. St. Louis Cardinals in baseball.

[David Sampson]

Got it.

[Jon Weiner]

That's funny. And so there's a bunch of interesting kids who graduated with my son. And so that was interesting to see sort of what people are doing and what the world is, how these people are communicating at age 22. That I don't communicate at age 57. It makes you feel old. My biggest emotion that I had, watching my youngest child graduate college. I had pride for him. I'm proud of him. I really am. Though I would have hoped he wouldn't have dropped out or not graduated once he got into college. But that said, proud of him. He wrote a great thesis. He's working starting next month in the real world. Fine.

[David Sampson]

Wait a sec. Great thesis.

[Jon Weiner]

It was like. It was like from War Games about global thermonuclear war. The best game is not to play.

[David Sampson]

Shall we play a game?

[Dan LeBatard]

David, I do not owe you an apology over the Bryce Harper stuff. He has a 143 OPS plus over his career to Joe Maurer is 124. He also has 200 more home runs in one less season. Also an extra MVP. But what I do potentially owe you an apology for is a few weeks ago on this program, Dan said that I said your basketball analysis was off. What that conversation led to, Dan was wrong. Dan threw me under the bus. But what that conversation led to was me saying there's no way that the Minnesota Timberwolves made the Julius Randle Karl Anthony Towns trade for basketball reasons. You were insistent that they did. And Julius Randle has been really, really, really good. So, David, I would like hand up. I would like to formally apologize for the criticism of your analysis. And I'd like to apologize to Julius Randall, who's been fantastic and do I think him being great is good for the ultimate winning of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Fantastic for the expectations. Fantastic for the expectations. Do I think that him being their leading scorer is any good for the Timberwolves? Absolutely not. I think that's a bad thing. But, David, I can see what you were saying and I owe you an apology.

[Jon Weiner]

Apology. Except to Jeremy. But I would like to just tell you that I have no recollection what you're talking about. I Do appreciate.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

I figured you would, of all people.

[Jon Weiner]

No, I don't keep track that way, actually. I don't do receipts. I'm not the victory lap guy because my legs would get tired. It just. It doesn't matter. Too many victories. Everyone is entitled to be wrong. He's just keeping track of graduation days.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now he'll show us that $2 billion receipt.

[Mike Ryan]

There is a sports storyline going on this week that I'm shocked at how little discussion there has been because I know it's a niche sport, but when Lance Armstrong is doing his thing, mainstream media talks about it. The biggest day in motorsports is happening on Sunday. You have Monaco, the Grand prix, the Indianapolis 500, which used to be a way bigger deal, but 300,000 people are going to be in attendance in Indianapolis. And then NASCAR debuts on Amazon prime later that evening with a race in Charlotte. There is one man in the history of this planet that has pulled off running all 1100 miles in the Indianapolis 500 and the Coca Cola 600 in Charlotte. Two different cities, two different races, two different circuits, one driver. It's Tony Stewart. He's the only person that ever did.

[David Sampson]

I thought you're gonna say Ricky Bobby.

[Mike Ryan]

Only person that ever did it for IndyCar. And then NASCAR on the same damn day that completed all the. All the miles. Two others have tried, two others failed.

[David Sampson]

How'd he do?

[Mike Ryan]

Kyle Larson was the most recent to try. He tried last year. Both races were impacted by rain. Kyle Larson led one of the final laps before ultimately having to go into gas because he made a rookie mistake there, and then flew to Charlotte on the same day. Was never actually able to get in the car because rain impacted it. Kyle Larson is once again trying for the double. Two races, one day, 1100 miles. This is a massive story. Prime has a documentary series behind it. They are launching their coverage of NASCAR with Larson going for the back end of that double. Why? I know there are competing interests because NASCAR doesn't seem fully on board with this, because it looks like Kyle Larson is prioritizing a different circuit. But this is great for the sport. It's great for all motorsports. And I don't understand why NASCAR and IndyCar aren't getting together and really teaming up and pushing this news out there, because few people even know that this is happening.

[David Sampson]

Mike, real quick question. You said Tony Stewart's the only one to do it.

[Mike Ryan]

Played every single mile.

[David Sampson]

How did he do it? How did he do.

[Mike Ryan]

He did top six in Indianapolis and top three in Charlotte.

[David Sampson]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. He didn't win no one's. It goes without saying, no one's ever pulled off the amazing feat of winning both races, but that the specter of that does loom over this weekend. Kyle Larson is one of the most talented drivers. If he pulls that off in one day, if he wins both races, I don't think he's fast enough in Indy, but if he does, it's the single greatest motorsports achievement we've ever seen. And people should know that there is a chance of this happening over the weekend.

[Dan LeBatard]

From the movie the Sixth Day with Arnold Schwarzenegger, we have white Rodney Roland.

[Jon Weiner]

Do they wear diapers, Mike?

[Mike Ryan]

They just go in their tracksuits. We've asked every time, like, in early in the show's history, anytime we had an NASCAR driver, it was Dan's like, go to question.

[Jon Weiner]

And the answer is they just go in there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, they just go. But they're also. They get so dehydrated during that race.

[David Sampson]

They're not peeing that much. They're not.

[Jon Weiner]

If you're not peeing, you're not drinking enough.

[Mike Ryan]

They also have lines of water. Like, they get hydrated. But, you know, it's. It's something that does happen occasionally. They pee in there. That's your response to Kyle Larson Trying.

[Jon Weiner]

For this one, Mike, is that analytics had told me that under 0.01% of our audience at Nothing Personal once. That is one of the topics. And so that's why I don't cover it. I want to cover F1. I thought that the hook of Drive to Survive and people getting excited about that and McLaren, how great they've been. The fact of the matter is that, you know, the kinks. Ray Davies, baby. Give the people what they want. I can't find my particular show that's on your show.

[David Sampson]

Mike asked you a question.

[Mike Ryan]

I get it. I get it.

[Jon Weiner]

And the only one who said who thinks that way.

[Mike Ryan]

I understand why this show doesn't, like, talk about nascar. Seriously, I have to put on a gimmick helmet anytime that I do.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, you haven't done that.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, I understand why that does. But this is a transcendent sports story. This is someone looking to do something that only one other person has achieved. Someone actually trying to win both races who actually has a legitimate chance. Kyle Larson wins all the time in nascar, and he led one of the final laps last year in Indy. If there's a driver to pull it off in the modern age, it's Kyle Larson. I feel like this is a story that if the average sports fan knew what was going on on a Sunday. One day a year they can get behind the biggest day in motorsports. It's a Sunday afternoon before Memorial Day. It's Americana. I feel like people need to know about this story and it's not even being covered or addressed by the mainstream. And it's Indianapolis, it's the Indy 500. It's a big deal.

[Jon Weiner]

I'll take an alert. If I get an alert, like with three laps to go out of the 1100 saying, hey, Kyle Larson's about to do this, I would tune in.

[David Sampson]

David, what are you reviewing for us today?

[Jon Weiner]

I'm reviewing a movie that not a lot of people have seen, and I'm hoping that somebody on this show has. It came out in 2024, not widely recognized with one of my favorite actors, Bill Nighy and James Norton and Thomasine Mackenzie. It's called Joy the birth of IVF. I didn't know the backstory of IVF. I didn't Know that it was developed in the 70s and that the precursor was known as test tube. Test tube babies.

[David Sampson]

You don't remember that?

[Jon Weiner]

I didn't know that test tube babies became ivf. I didn't realize all of the religious implications. I didn't realize I just lived in my own world. I didn't realize all of the issues that existed when it was developed in London by scientists over the objections of everybody. I didn't realize that there was the first baby who was born from IDF and what it's led to. With 12 million children able to get life and parents who suffer from infertility issues able to have the joys of going to a graduation every year. I was not aware of that. And this movie captures it. It's based on a true story, quite obviously, and I love when I get to watch movies and learn and I love to be entertained. It went quickly. I didn't check my phone. I didn't Google during the movie to learn about the stuff I googled after to sort of follow up. Fact, verse, fiction, the usual. If you can find it, you can go to Netflix. It's called Joy, the Birth of ivf. And I suggest you for every anybody and everybody, whether you have children or not.

[David Sampson]

Thank you, David. Appreciate your time. Nothing personal with David Sampson. Catch it every day wherever you get podcasts. Real quick, let's go to the boldest take of the week.

[Mike Ryan]

The Boost Mobile boldest take from the weekend on a Wednesday is presented by Boost mobile, the newest 5G network in the country. You can call 3 or 5, 4, 86 got 300, 548-64689. Edric from Texas. Tim Allen is the best TV show actor of a generation. Three different decades, three different shows. He's hilarious as hell. Golden Oreos are better than regular Oreos. What's up fellas? This is Tony Klonicle of Mobile. Just made a mess of pancakes for the kids and I'm just now realizing butter is infinitely more important than syrup for pancakes. I'll hang up and listen. Hey, it's Frank on a satellite phone. I got a limited fake Lou Dobbs as a pop artist. Waddle a he Waddle a H. Waddle a who waddle.

[David Sampson]

Hey guys, Rachel on the mobile 2016.

[Jon Weiner]

First time, long time. My hot take from the weekend letting.

[David Sampson]

Kravitz does not own a shirt with.

[Mike Ryan]

More than four buttons.

[Jon Weiner]

I'll hang up and listen.

[Mike Ryan]

My favorite big man. Hey guys. Hi from Ohio. Hey. My friends and I are big fans of the show. Been listening forever, but we need your help. We have a bet amongst ourselves and we need to answer so we can decide who is right. It's regarding Dan's hat size. The over under is nine and a half.

[Dan LeBatard]

Over.

[Mike Ryan]

Howdy listeners, it's Mike. This is one of the best times of the year. You're caught up in the emotion of the playoffs. Big time. Crucial games, going to games, hanging with your boys, hanging with your ladies, hanging with your family and having a good old fashioned time. Well, I can speak from experience. I've been doing all those things. But I've been doing so with a Miller Lite by my side. Because having good times is great. Making those good times a Miller time makes it an unbelievable time. A time of your life. With Miller Lite, a brand and a beverage that has been around for 50 glorious years. That's hard to do. Remain popular and delivering on great flavor for 50 years. Brewed with simple ingredients, none of the fluff, just real flavor. Malted barley gives it that rich balance, balanced toffee note taste and the iconic golden color that just hits right every time. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.