The Big Suey: From 3 p.m. (feat. Chris Wittyngham)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

"The Big Suey: From 3 p.m." (feat. Chris Wittyngham)

Date: September 18, 2025
Recorded live from the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Big Suey" blends signature Le Batard show antics with deep dives into sports, media criticism, pet peeves, and South Florida culture. Dan, Stugotz, and the crew, including Chris Wittyngham, focus on late-night television intrigue, pay homage to legendary local broadcaster Ray Hudson, dissect Miami sports narratives, and banter irreverently about everything from pet peeves to soccer prodigies. Listeners get a raw, energetic, and often comedic look at how sports and culture intersect—always with heat ("from 3 p.m.").

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Late-Night TV Drama: Jimmy Kimmel’s Predicament and Media Censorship

[02:03–05:07]

• Jimmy Kimmel’s Fallout: The episode addresses rumors about Kimmel's job status at ABC after his emotional on-air comments following the murder of Charlie Kirk.

• Corporate and Political Pressure: Dan elaborates on the complex dynamics between network interests and regulatory threats—

  “If Jimmy Kimmel were to embarrass Disney Iger by doing that … he will not be a good employee. He will not be behaving like a good employee for ABC.” (Dan, 02:32)

• FCC as a Weapon: Dan notes growing government overreach into media:

  “When the FCC is weaponized … you creep toward state media ... [It’s] optical illusions in your face to pretend like you’re getting truth and freedom, when actually we all know that’s a spectacular amount of bull.” (Dan, 03:52)

• Personal Perspective: Dan relates these anxieties to his Cuban household’s experience with propaganda.

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2. Celebrating Ray Hudson – South Florida’s Iconic Broadcaster

[06:17–11:39]

• Ray Hudson’s Retirement: Chris Wittyngham reflects on sharing the booth with Hudson and honors his legacy.

• Hudson’s Unique Style: The crew plays a montage and some of Ray’s legendary "goal calls."

  “For me, it was sort of the honor of a lifetime ... The first time he did the thing … sitting next to me … was incredible.” (Chris Wittyngham, 10:16)

• Top Ray-isms: Wittyngham tries to compile his favorite Hudson calls:

  • “You can put a tarantula down his pants and he’d still be cool.” (16:14)
  • “Like a vampire attacking a plate of liver.” (16:46)
  • “Off like a teenager on a hot date.” (16:49)
  • “Stretched like spandex on Fort Lauderdale beach at the Elbow Room.” (17:09)

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3. Chris Wittyngham: Career Moves, Voice Fears, and Broadcasting Real Talk

[15:40–16:49, 34:01–36:56]

• Workload Worries: Wittyngham reveals his anxieties about overusing his voice during a packed week of Champions League coverage.

  “Honestly ... I'm a bit of a hypochondriac when it comes to my voice ... Five games in six days ... If someone wanted to come up to me and chop my arm off, I would prefer that to getting a common cold.” (Chris Wittyngham, 35:18 & 36:10)

• Show Banter: Dan and the crew ridicule Wittyngham’s dramatic proclamation:

  “That is not reasonable, Witty. You take that back.” (Dan, 36:15)

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4. Miami Sports Takes: Dolphins, Hurricanes, and Hot Seats

[19:01–33:14]

• Miami Dolphins Fatalism: Wittyngham expresses deep pessimism over the Dolphins' Fortunes:

  “The Dolphins are 12 and a half point underdogs and that’s underselling it, in my view ... I’m waiting for ACL injuries to happen. I’m waiting for things that calamitously destroy the Miami Dolphins season.” (Wittyngham, 19:16)

• Tua's Limitations: The panel discusses QB Tua Tagovailoa’s inability to improvise, with input from several voices:

  “It’s fairly obvious that unless the scenario is perfect, he can’t make the special plays.” (Stugotz, 20:32)

  “Yeah, he’s not—he’s one step off schedule.” (Wittyngham & crew, 21:04)

• Coach Mario Cristobal Debate: Pressure on Miami Hurricanes’ head coach Mario Cristobal is dissected:

  “I just don’t think he’s a very good coach ... I think for the University of Miami, for the fans, this is about as well as it could have gone, especially relative to what it’s been for 20 years.” (Wittyngham, 28:34)

  • What Makes a Good Coach?: Dan poses the big question:

    “If I say to you you’re about to hire a college coach, what skill do you want … above all others?” (Dan, 31:29)

  • Recruiting vs. Scheming: The consensus leans toward recruiting and adaptability as most critical.

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5. South Florida Broadcasters – Best of All-Time

[15:40–17:36]

• The List Debate: Dan prompts a ranking of South Florida’s greatest broadcasters, but Wittyngham parries, returning to Hudson’s best lines.
• Meta-Banter: The segment is meta and self-aware, with Dan playfully jabbing at Wittyngham’s lack of preparation and shifting format on the fly.

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6. Soccer, Youth Stars, and Lamine Yamal

[40:21–41:35]

• Barcelona’s Teenage Sensation: Mike Ryan asks if prodigy Lamine Yamal could possibly have a normal career trajectory; Wittyngham responds with concern about idolizing Neymar:

  “That is not someone that you want to be patterning your professional behavior after, because this is not a consummate professional.” (Wittyngham, 40:34)

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7. Classic Show Antics & Running Gags

Throughout

• Tree Planting Updates: Hilarious asides about Billy trying and failing to plant a tree, complete with HOA worries and “undisclosed location” running joke.
• Pet Peeves & Meta Commentary: Banter about who gets to talk, whose takes are credible, and internal show dynamics.
• Gearhead NASCAR Segment: Quick update on playoff standings and key drivers by Mike Ryan. (43:02–43:48)
• Colin Cowherd Plagiarism Accusation: The show calls out Cowherd for recycling takes about Jim Harbaugh, with Zaslow claiming first rights. (44:06–45:08)

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Notable Quotes

• On Kimmel/Media:

  “You creep toward state media ... optical illusions in your face to pretend like you’re getting truth and freedom, when actually we all know that’s a spectacular amount of bull.”
  — Dan Le Batard, [03:52]

• On Ray Hudson:

  “He’s still throwing 101 on the black ... never got jaded ... caring every bit about the game and honoring the game all the way until the very end.”
  — Chris Wittyngham, [10:16]

• On Wittyngham’s Voice Paranoia:

  “If someone wanted to come up to me and chop my arm off, I would prefer that to getting a common cold.”
  — Chris Wittyngham, [36:10]

• On Tua’s Playmaking Limitations:

  “Unless the scenario is perfect, he can’t make the special plays… I’ve never seen him improvise … that’s not something [he does].”
  — Group consensus, [20:32–21:02]

• On Mario Cristobal’s Tenure:

  “I just don’t think he’s a very good coach… I would rather all of that effort be backed into someone I believe to be a good coach, rather than an elite recruiter …”
  — Chris Wittyngham, [28:34]

• On Soccer Prodigy Idols:

  “He came out and said that his idol at Barcelona was not Messi, it was Neymar. And I thought, oh, no…”
  — Chris Wittyngham, [40:34]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jimmy Kimmel & the FCC: 02:03–05:17
• Ray Hudson Tribute: 06:17–11:39
• Wittyngham’s “Voice” Paranoia: 34:01–36:56
• Miami Dolphins & Tua: 19:01–23:33
• Mario Cristobal/Hurricanes Deep Dive: 28:22–33:14
• Best South Florida Broadcasters: 15:40–17:36
• Youth Soccer Talk (Lamine Yamal): 40:21–41:35
• Gearhead NASCAR Segment: 43:02–43:48
• Cowherd “Take Theft” Rant: 44:06–45:08

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, and quick-witted.
• Candid hot takes and playful self-awareness.
• Local pride and inside jokes, especially around Miami culture and show personalities.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect showcase of the Dan Le Batard Show’s blend of sharp sports analysis, deep knowledge of Miami culture, absurd humor, and meta-media critique. If you’re diving in for the first time, expect a bit of chaos—but that’s part of the fun.

Transcript

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We should point out that Jimmy Kimmel has not been fired. Jimmy Kimmel has been a very good employee for abc. Does a lot of other things other than just his show. And when Mike Ryan suggested there that the Internet is saying it would be great if Kimmel appeared on Colbert. Yeah. And Kimmel would immediately not have a job again if he did that. I would imagine. I would imagine. I would imagine that if given the.

[E]

Circumstances because like he showed up on the Colbert show, like supporting Stephen Colbert when that all came down.

[C]

Yes. But in this particular instance, because ABC is trying to protect affiliates, protect money, protect against the complaints that are coming from local shows that tend to control what happens in late night If Jimmy Kimmel were to embarrass Disney Iger by doing that on something other than his platform, when he might still be welcome back to his platform, he will be exacerbated things for them. He will not be a good employee. He will not be behaving like a good employee for abc.

[E]

I guess it depends on what he does. He can come out as a sight gag, which often they do when things are hot around these talk show hosts and they often don't even say things, they're just there for support. I do want to turn people's attention to a statement that Jimmy Kimmel did make in the wake of Charlie Kirk. I know a lot of people are projecting what they think he said there. He certainly referenced it and then played a clip of the President. But this was Jimmy Kimmel's strongest statement and initial statement after the the murder of Charlie Kirk. Instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just one day agree that it is horrible and monstrous to shoot another human? On behalf of my family, we send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocents who fall victim to senseless gun violence.

[C]

Another thing that was weird about this is that he said it Monday. This is Monday. And then it. He's. He's. It's last night that he's taken off of the air. So whatever they were dealing with behind the scenes was something that is hard for any kind of leadership to deal with. And then when the FCC is weaponized and the chair of the FCC is saying, we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way, you find yourself in a space where we're already seeing with ice something that feels like state militia, feels like state police. And now you creep toward state media. And when I was saying to you before what was in my household growing up, grandparents, uncles, parents, this is what they talked about when they talked about the idea of propaganda as media and where it is that the government starts throwing optical illusions in your face to pretend like you're getting truth and freedom, when actually we all know that that's a spectacular amount of bull. Chris Whittingham is going to join us here in a little bit and we're going to celebrate Ray Hudson with him. And he's had some bad takes. He's anti Panthers and then they win the championships. He's anti Mario Cristobal. He was out on Mario Cristobal after two games.

[D]

I don't understand, like, he, he has an opinion on something and then he can't, like, admit that he was wrong.

[C]

Weird for him, weird for media in general. Weird for all of us. I would say. I would say media members in general are stubborn about admitting when they're wrong.

[E]

Greg Cody's of us, some of us pride themselves on being able to admit when they're wrong. It's quite liberating.

[D]

I mean, I don't know if you remember I dubbed Paul Morris the murderer of fun. I've never had more fun than these last two years of Paul. Maurice is my favorite team's head coach. I love him. Now I was dead wrong. Why can't we admit that our opinion was wrong?

[E]

I am curious to hear Witty's thoughts on Mario Crisbaugh and the Miami Hurricanes because his whole thing when Mario first took over was this caveman offense. It isn't fun. And then in year three, Mario Cristobal provided Hurricanes fans with only the greatest offense in the history of the program. And it seems as though the offense is pretty fun to watch right now. So I'm very curious to see where he stands.

[C]

We've got a lot to get to with Witty. The Champions League is back on Paramount. Plus he's calling the game today at 3pm so he's very busy. But we have some imaging here to celebrate the Ray Hudson gold calls and I want to get from Witty top five South Florida broadcasters of all time because I'm maintaining there has been no broadcaster that has read resonated more ever from South Florida around South Florida than Ray Hudson. But let's get the imaging for that please.

[A]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. When of the day Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.

[C]

Call the dead.

[A]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray. Ray. Ray. Ray. Ray. Ray. Ray Hudson. Red Ray Hudson.

[C]

This is what Dan wanted. This is what Dan wanted.

[A]

He wanted want it wanted. Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.

[B]

Ray Hudson.

[A]

The day.

[C]

This is one day maybe the government should control the media. Can we play the Ray Hudson call of the day in honor of Ray Hudson? We're going to do this every day until the World cup there by reinders.

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[D]

Look at where this beautiful goal is.

[A]

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[D]

And they absolutely embroider the passing going forward. It's Gatling gun and then it's Liao's magic again.

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Makes all the right decisions. Always smiling and Real Madrid now crying. It's a fabulous ball by Reynas, but the setup all the way down, the.

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[C]

You have called games with Ray Hudson, plural. They have been the awe of your lifetime, by your own description. Tell us what it is that you felt when he said he was stepping away.

[A]

Yeah, I actually knew probably that it was coming. We had talked about it a fair bit throughout last season. It actually allowed me to cherish it probably even more, especially as we went into that semifinal between Barcelona and Inter, because I felt honestly that this was probably it for him. And that was like a real honor for me as a broadcaster. Be like, all right, I'm with this guy. He's still throwing 101 on the black. He's still absolutely brilliant in terms of what he does from a broadcasting standpoint, the energy that he brings. And also, he never got jaded. He cared every bit about the game and honoring the game all the way until the very end. So I kind of knew that it was it. And I was kind of hoping all summer, from May when the Champions League ended until now, that he would change his mind and want to go again. But I think he kind of knew that. That it was going to be the end. And we had kind of said it after that crazy semifinal. And yeah, I mean, for me, I got to do it for a year and a half regularly on the Champions League, and we worked here and there at Inter Miami and on being sports. But as you said, for me, it was sort of the honor of a lifetime. I remember the first time I worked with him, it was a World cup qualifier. I think it was Brazil against Paraguay. And it was. I was starstruck for half of the game and it was. It was crazy to kind of call a game that way. But the first time he did the thing, it was like, wow, he did the thing and he was sitting next to me, all doing it was. Was incredible. Second place working with me.

[E]

Top five.

[A]

I would say. So, yeah, I would say, I mean, with the show in general, probably second. But I think you specifically, I would say it's definitely somewhere, maybe top 10.

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[A]

Don LeBatard.

[E]

Witty. We have a photo right here. If you can see in this photo with my daughter, there I am pointing exactly to the point on the Stanley cup where it says, you suck ass Stugats right there.

[A]

Juliette.

[E]

It's like, yeah, they got an engraved right there. It says, chris Whittingham sucks ass.

[A]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[C]

Let's do a top five list here with Witty. Top five broadcasters that South Florida could lay claim to as the best broadcasters in South Florida history. Do you have any, Oli, or do you just want to go top five?

[A]

Well, I was kind of hoping, honestly, if we were doing top five lists, that would be my top five favorite Ray Hudson lines. But I think, honestly, if we're going Oli, No.

[C]

Okay, let's. Let's do it.

[A]

Let's do Brendan Tobin.

[C]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it your way. Let's do it your way. Go ahead. And top five, Ray Hudson lines. If you prefer to do it that way.

[A]

All right, I'm gonna try and do this off the top of my head, so I'm gonna start first with number five. You can put a tarantula down his pants and he'd still be cool.

[C]

Messi's about to sign an extension with Inter Miami, right? Is that. That's been reported and. Yeah, confirmed.

[E]

Confirmed.

[A]

I don't know about confirmed. I mean, I think the club will confirm it eventually.

[E]

Yeah. Taylor Twillman joined our show. That's where all the momentum is. It'd be hard to envision any scenario outside of Leo Messi helping open that new stadium for Inter Miami.

[C]

Number four.

[A]

Like a vampire attacking a plate of liver. Number three, off like a teenager on a hot date. Number two, stretched like spandex on Fort Lauderdale beach at the Elbow Room.

[C]

What are we, number two or number one?

[A]

I Was number one. I'm running out. I'm trying to think of one now.

[C]

You said, see, that's the perils of you. You didn't want to do the top five. That I wanted to do.

[A]

You wanted to do. I wasn't prepped on that. I probably would have thrown in, like Hank Goldberg and might have regretted it. I would have. I haven't thought about your list either.

[C]

All right, well, good prep. I'm appreciating that you, a preparation freak, has arrived. Didn't have any prep for what I asked you about. Asked for something else and then didn't have that either.

[A]

Let's close. I got to four. Four was pretty good. Let's top four list.

[C]

Let's check in with Billy and see how he's doing out there as we don't want to waste any more to be produced of Witty's. Of Witty's. Billy, where are you on the tree planting? Is it harder than you thought it was? Danny, excellent work holding that microphone. Give us a report, Billy, from the tree planting.

[B]

I'm digging the second hole because I dug the first hole, and they said they're not ready for the hole to be dug, so they've rose came and filled it in. So I have to re dig that hole so that we can plant the tree. And pardon me if I'm a bit irked, but I have. While I'm digging, I've noticed I have some branches here that are ripe for pruning, but I can't quite find my pruning shears. So, you know, we're getting there. We're almost there. Hey, Witty, how are you?

[A]

Hey, Billy.

[B]

I'm planting a tree in an undisclosed location, in case you're wondering.

[A]

Billy, did you approve this with your hoa?

[C]

It's an undisclosed location.

[B]

Well, it's an undisclosed location, so as long as no one tells them where I am, we're good. Also, I mean, this Witty coming on here, I knew he was gonna retire. How about you tell people, Bud, Aren't you a journalist? Aren't you a professional snitch, as Zaza likes to call you guys?

[A]

Professional snitch? No, I wouldn't call myself a journalist, though, really. I'm more of a broadcaster type.

[C]

What are your thoughts on tua? Witty, I want to get to your flammably bad opinions that you refuse to retract. But the game tonight and TUA in general, your thoughts are what, there?

[A]

Well, I mean, the game tonight, is there any. I mean, the dolphins are 12 and a half point underdogs and that's underselling it, in my view. Is there any chance they don't get absolutely destroyed tonight? I feel like I have walked myself into the trap of trying to get excited, of trying to talk myself into, oh, maybe this is the time that the primetime game isn't an unmitigated disaster. And yet it happens every single time. I'm waiting for ACL injuries to happen. I'm waiting for Achilles injuries to happen. I'm waiting for things that calamitously destroy the Miami Dolphins season, because that's what happens every single time they play in a primetime night game. And for me, the thing about Tua is, I mean, beyond the fact that it seems as though the league has figured him out, the thing that's so immensely frustrating is you watch that Monday Night Football game, you watch Baker Mayfield somehow escape on 4th and 10, run for 17 yards, get a first down, and somehow that is not available to the Miami Dolphins. It appears to be available to all of the other 31 teams in the National Football League. It is not available to Tua Tango Vailoa to be able to do that. And I think now in modern times, it's so difficult to be able to generate offense, to be able to generate anything without having that threat. And I think that more than anything is limiting too, at this time.

[D]

It's fairly obvious at this point that unless the scenario is perfect, he can't make the special plays. He doesn't make special plays off script. Making things happen when, unless the play is set up to go exactly the way it was designed to, it does.

[E]

Not make great points as I've. I've never seen him make chicken salad. I've never seen him improvise. And what a play by to it. That's not something.

[A]

That's the opposite. When he's out of the pocket, you go, oh, no.

[E]

That is an amazing point. Yeah, he's not.

[A]

He's one step off schedule.

[E]

Yeah, he's step off schedule.

[A]

He doesn't.

[D]

Doesn't make things happen.

[A]

And you know what's interesting, Zaslo? For me, the thing that is underrated in all of it, we talk a lot about obviously the. The brain injuries, but I think the hip injury is kind of underrated in all of this. I think physically I saw the. The other day, this thing on Twitter. I understand why Dolphins fans still believe because it was a three minute montage of things that he did at Bama and there is a lot of mobility in there. There's a lot of movement there's a lot of things that are off schedule. All the things we're talking about he did in college. But I think physically, yes, we talk about the brain thing all the time. I think the hip injury has turned him into a completely different player that does not allow him to move in the same way or do the same things. You look at his athleticism, it is incredibly below par, it would appear, relative to the rest of the other quarterbacks in the NFL. And I don't think that was always the case. I think the injuries, even beyond what happened with him, his head hitting the ground multiple times have affected him irreparably.

[C]

The lexicon of football is just so great because I look at fancy lad and I see a woke liberal who just said the brain thing.

[E]

Chris Whittingham is a fancy lad.

[C]

The brain. The brain thing.

[A]

That old chestnut.

[C]

Oh, my God. 94% of the money at DraftKings is coming in on the bills. 94%. That's crazy.

[A]

That's too low.

[C]

That's a cr. That's a crazy number.

[D]

The number's too low. The number is too low. 12's too low.

[C]

12 and a half is too low a number.

[D]

Yeah, clearly.

[E]

I mean, for a desperate team that's supposed to be fighting for its head coach on a short week. I mean, I don't. I mean, that's a lot of points in the NFL, Mike.

[A]

I know. I. Mike, I know how you bet you're looking at dolphins plus 12 and a half. You see kind of the. You love a Zag bet, and you love looking at what everyone else is doing and going, well, the NFL. This is the spot. This is the spot where you should take the Dolphins. I just, with all of the experience I have as a fan, cannot bring myself to do it.

[E]

Yeah, you're right, Woody. I'm doing no action on this one.

[D]

Sometimes everyone's right.

[E]

Yeah, it happens. And I don't know if this team is just fully cooked. It's too early in the season to see what this line is. I'm staying away, though. I'm not getting in front of a 94%.

[D]

Staying away from free money is what you're doing.

[C]

Well, but football can. Football. And I know you say sometimes everyone's right, and they did end up being right the previous spread, like this, Ravens over Browns. But the beginning of that game was about what those things look like early, where you're like, oh, of course football's gonna keep it close. It's just this defense against that offense is the biggest mismatch in the entire league. It's the biggest mismatch. I cannot, I cannot present another mismatch to you anywhere. That's as bad as this defense against this offense.

[D]

The Dolphins defense hasn't been able to stop anyone this year. You've seen Daniel Jones and Drake may put up numbers without any kind of real weapons around them, put up numbers at will these first two games. And now on a short week on the road, Mike McDaniel, who, whose strength is his offense and it seems like the rest of the league has been able to, you know, scheme and catch up to his offense. Mike McDaniel is going to now figure out on a short week how to stop the league mvp.

[C]

Okay, Billy, you seem to have had a lot of thoughts to some of the things that Whittingham was saying. I don't know what to do with your facial gestures from over here. What were your thoughts?

[B]

What if they win? Just toss out all of that stuff that you guys were saying and the logic and all that. What if, follow me down this path, the Dolphins win today.

[C]

That's not possible.

[A]

What?

[C]

That's not possible. It's not possible.

[E]

I will say though, historically, Billy, Mike McDaniel's Miami Dolphins have played the Buffalo Bills tight and they always think about this.

[C]

They always lose to Josh Allen though. Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead.

[B]

No, sometimes Josh Allen runs out of time. He loses track. Just consider this for a moment. What if they win?

[C]

Okay, thank you. I will said it twice. Yeah, I will take that under advisement and I will just say of all the crazy shit happening in America, that would be the craziest.

[A]

Yeah. Take everything off the headlines stuff. Yeah.

[B]

That's just facts and logic and which team is better than the other. But think about this for a moment. What if they win?

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[E]

Stugats.

[C]

Yeah, I love you, but that's on you.

[A]

I don't know you that well.

[C]

Yeah, they said that you both suck ass and were bitten in the ass. So those are both things that you you are accused of during this you're.

[A]

In my ass situation. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[C]

Witty. Are you going to retract any of your bad opinions? Your Mario crystal ball opinion? You were out after two games. Are you willing to pull that one back or are you going to entrench yourself and be stubborn?

[A]

You know me, I'm inclined to entrench myself and be stubborn. But I do think that in the overall, Mario Cristobal has delivered on the best possible version of what he can deliver. Which is if he gets the incredible resource that he's been backed with now with his own salary, salary of a coaching staff and the amount of money that you have to shell out to get a high level group of players. Now he has been backed in that way. And by the way, that is a skill because I don't Think that every coach can walk into every university or every group of boosters and go here, I need this amount of money. And you'll get it. I imagine previous coaches at the University of Miami have thought, well, I could do with a bit more money. And you don't have the juice in order to pull off. Cristobal has the juice to be able to pull it off. So that is a huge part of the game. I think he is obviously an unbelievable recruiter, has done it at every stop and has done it again. Here he is assembled a very good team. That being said, the one worry that I've always had from him is I just don't think he's a very good coach. A game day coach that can actually consistently deliver results. You look at last season, last season you have the number one overall picket quarterback, you have an incredible offense and they lost his 13 and 12 and a half point under or favorites against Georgia Tech and Syracuse. And so I am still that big skeptical of what he can do in big games or even honestly not in big games. Can you go through an ACC schedule unscathed? That might not necessarily be what you need to do now because of how forgiving the playoff format is, but I'm still skeptical that he can consistently deliver results game after game after game. And I just don't think this is a personal thing, but I would rather all of that effort be backed into someone I believe to be a good coach rather than an elite recruiter who for me is an average to good coach. And so that's my own personal preference. But I think for the University of Miami, for the fans, this is about as well as it could have gone, especially relative to what it's been for 20 years. Dan, I'm sure you have the context to remember even from a physical standpoint of what it used to look like in the early 2000s, in the 90s and in the 80s as well. You have the context of this is what it's supposed to look like when a team is great. And I think even for example, I have some friends that are like USF fans are going, God, this team's frustrating to play against. They're so big, they're so strong. And I think the University of Miami has not been that for 22, 23 years. And so the idea that now they are there, that's an incredible thing to aspire to. It's just me personally, I would have preferred it on a different kind of coach, but I'm more than happy to acknowledge that he is doing a Very good job.

[C]

Let me ask the group this question though. What do you want most from your college coach? Because in this particular case, he seems to have fixed the defense, at least in part because he fired the coordinator and replaced him with someone who has them playing, playing more disciplined, which is.

[A]

The same thing you did for the offense because the offense was dreadful in year one and year two. Found a different guy and they're way better now.

[C]

But, but if you, if I say to you you're about to hire a college coach, what skill do you want that college coach to have above all others? Is it he can make quarterbacks play well, he can do what is being done at say Georgia Tech or he gets the best players. He just gets the best players.

[E]

Gets the best players. I know you pose this to the group so I'll let them chime in, but gets the best players is quick to fix issues which I think as witty highlighted. People were complaining about the offense. He brings in Shannon Dawson, best offense in the history of the program. People were complaining about the defense. Get six new players for that secondary changes the defensive coordinator. I think Mario Crispal has been very good about fixing the problems that message boards complain about. And, and it's funny that you mentioned like people that are smart about quarterback play because of what we project onto offensive lines. Mario Cristobal is not allowed to be a genius about offensive line play. He's. He's forever a caveman. He and Alex Mirabal can't be geniuses. You have to be Lincoln Riley to be a genius.

[A]

Even though everything geniuses look a certain way.

[E]

The straw that serves a drink even for quarterbacks is an offensive line. He has shown you through four years here and what he did at Oregon is if you get the trenches right, it opens everything else up and you can go from a fifth round draft pick to number one overall.

[C]

No, you're right about that. In the history of this market, like Tony Sparano is the only guy who rose from offensive line gooey.

[A]

And think of how we thought of him. Yeah, God rest his soul, but I mean we did not think of him as this offensive genius. We thought of him as the guy who enjoyed kicking field goal. I don't think you can do, you.

[C]

Can do what you just did there where posthumously 10 years later, you, you kill Tony Sparano again and then say God rest his sou.

[A]

I mean, I didn't kill him.

[E]

Billy should bury a football in that.

[A]

Spare hole that he's doing yard work now. Just like doing upkeep now. Guys, look, I I prefer to have.

[E]

The schematic coach advantage because when my.

[A]

School won a national championship, that was how it happened. It wasn't about having the highest recruited players. Hold on a second.

[D]

It was out scheming your opponent over that. All right? Your school winning a national championship in 2017. I mean, have, have some shame.

[E]

They won a national championship.

[A]

The only undefeated champion in the country.

[D]

Shame.

[A]

Look, sorry. Just because Santa Fe didn't win a national championship doesn't mean you have to be salty.

[D]

You know what, it may be insulting to someone who went to Santa Fe like that. I, I, I though I, I might have gone to Santa Fe just for this week.

[A]

That's right.

[E]

You want those tickets?

[D]

You, you definitely went to San Mike's bringing me in. The 72 Club. They have all you can drink.

[C]

Whittingham, are you worried that you're wasting your voice? You've got Champions league today, Paramount + 3pm Eastern. And I have found you to be a bit of a hypochondriac when it comes to your voice.

[A]

Yeah, honestly. Well, I've had a busy week. I had two games on Saturday, I had a game on Tuesday night at a game last night and this is my fifth game now in six days. So I am worried. I have been on a three or four throat coat tee a day regimen for the last week. I'm making sure that it's still working. But no, I'm not, I'm not worried that this interview is going to be the thing that sends me over the line. I'm worried that it was about the 17 goals that I've called in the last five days. That's really going to harm me. But, but I think I'm gonna make it over the line. I think I'm gonna make it. I've got a really busy run of games. But yeah, Champions League today, Manchester City and Napoli from 3pm and yeah, I'm really excited for it. I've actually got a cool one next week too. Next Wednesday I'm on the Inter Miami game. First time I've done inter Miami at 3:00pm, not from 3:00pm, from 3:00pm coverage.

[E]

From 3:00pm First Messi game at 3:00pm that's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

For Apple TV, Chris Whittingham is a fancy lady.

[C]

I mean, come on, from 3pm like, what are you doing?

[A]

We're supposed to be here at. From 9:40.

[C]

What are you doing? What are you doing?

[A]

Someone sent me the Zoom link from 9:43, so. Same Zoom link for seven years. No, it's from 3:00pm to 5:00'. Clock.

[E]

That's when you say from on the weekend.

[A]

On the weekend, at halftime. Hate this guy.

[C]

Where does losing your voice rank in terms of your worst nightmares?

[A]

Oh, it's horrible. It's horrible. I had a game last year in Syria where I had to power. It was about 15 minutes in where my voice kind of settled in and I was able to get through it. But yeah, I was definitely for Fowler the other night on Monday Night Football. That is definitely the thing that I wake up in a cold sweat thinking about having to grind through three hours and especially because everyone's gonna be going, oh, this guy sounds terrible. How bad? What happened? Is he okay? Is he dying? And that. That for me is the absolute worst thing that can happen. It's why, like, like, honestly, if someone wanted to come up to me right now and chop my arm off, I would prefer that to getting a common cold. Being run over by a bus is worse for me.

[D]

Billy's holding a machete.

[A]

Yeah, Billy's ready. Careful with that thing. Jesus.

[C]

That is not reasonable. Witty. You take that back. Witty. That's an asinine thing to say.

[A]

If someone came up to me right now and chopped my arm off, I could still call man city Napoli at 3pm of Paramount. Probably not. I would be fine. I don't. You don't think so?

[E]

No.

[D]

You have dirt on it.

[E]

You have the end of the. From 3:00pm From. From the end of the segment to take this take back.

[A]

No, no, I'm sticking with it. I've. I'm stubborn about my takes and I'm saying I'm good with my arm being, though. I'm telling you, though, when I watch a broadcast and I can tell that the guy is sick, I don't look negatively at that. I'm like, this guy's. This guy came to work today. This guy's fighting through.

[E]

Oh, I do.

[A]

Like, I heard Fowler the other night and I was like, he's a little sick. I like to call it out, too, to everyone.

[E]

You know what I say under my breath since 2020? You know what? You want to take a guess what I say since 2020 when an announcer sounds like that? You don't want to know.

[C]

I do want to know. You said you asked me if I wanted to know. I do want to know. And then you tell me you don't want to know.

[E]

I know it's not a thing anymore, but I say Covid. I'm like, he has Covid.

[C]

Whittingham. You don't want to take that back. You'd rather have your arm. You're the only human being on earth who would say I'd rather have my arm chopped off than get a cold.

[A]

That's correct. That's correct. My arms. What do I. What do I need my arms for? I feel like Mike. I need to. I need the pipes to be working. That's the most important thing.

[E]

There is no way you stop the bleeding and do all that is necessary after your arm gets chopped off to be ready for Champions League. And by the way, everyone would understand if you missed that, how many pain.

[A]

Meds you would need after that. But I. But I could still grind it out. You get, you get, you get the Vicodin, the Percocet, whatever you need. And I can still grind out broadcast.

[E]

I won't accuse you of having Covid if that happens.

[A]

Right, because my arm will have been chopped off. But I'm telling you, it's the worst thing that can happen. And especially honestly, the worst part is not actually doing the work with your voice. It's the 48 hours before when you know, oh, shit, this I'm about. I need to get the tea going. I need Nyquil going. I need DayQuil going. I need cough drops and enough tea to provide water for a small village. That. That's what you need. So that. That, for me is honestly, the worst part is knowing that and. And also not talking to anyone. You don't talk to anyone for the 48 hours before because it's all about preserving the voice for the two or the three hours.

[D]

Is it worse than abandoning the Panthers and then they win two Stanley Cups?

[A]

No, no, it's definitely not worse than that. Honestly, I don't really miss hockey very much. Oh, stop it.

[B]

Stop lying.

[A]

It's out of my life and now I have time to do other things.

[D]

Yeah, let's take things that bring tremendous joy out of our life. I'm better off.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I get. I get my time back. The gift of time. Zazzle. It is. It is a. We have a finite amount of time on this earth, and the less of it spending watching Paul Maurice, the less.

[D]

Of it spending being happy.

[A]

No, watching Paul Maurice's teams play hockey. I mean, that. That's the. That. I mean, what a waste of time it is to watch his teams, in the way that they play hockey, go game after game after game, never completing three consecutive passes together, dumping the puck in, going and chasing the ball by the ball, the puck by the boards and trying to send it into the high slot for a High chance and no thanks. No thanks. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's so bad to watch. The show was so much better when he was the woke liberal broadcaster on it.

[C]

And one of two Stanley Cups.

[A]

God damn it.

[C]

Yeah, Roy's furious.

[A]

It's so boring. It's terrible.

[C]

I believe you're put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Juju, should your hockey opinion be disqualified if you refer to the puck as ball?

[A]

My every. My description, honestly, I'm surprised when I did 90 seconds on Tua that I wasn't like, talking about his passes as through balls or something like that. Every single sport that I talk about now is through the context and lexicon of soccer.

[C]

Mike Ryan wants to talk soccer with you, and I want to talk pet peeves because I miss your pet peeves on the show. So which would you prefer? We only have time for one question. Would you prefer a soccer question from Mike Ryan or would you prefer a pet peeve question from me?

[A]

Oh, but that's like pitting the two of you against each other. I'll try and give quick answers on both. Let's start with soccer.

[E]

There's no way Lamine Yamal, the teenage genius of Barcelona, comes out any kind of normal, right?

[A]

Well, the thing is, he was on his way. He was on his way to kind of being normal. He was performing well. But then, honestly, you know what scared me the most? When he came out and said that his idol at Barcelona was not Messi, it was Neymar. And I thought, oh, no, that is not someone that you want to be patterning your professional behavior after, because this is not a consummate professional. And then there was a story with him losing his passport. And then for some, and this is for me, one of the vagaries of language barriers. His injury that he is currently out with, I think it's a groin injury, but it got reported as an injury in the pubic area, which makes it sound like a completely different thing. And so, yeah, I'm a bit worried. I still think he's amazing. I still think he's gonna have a great career. But I'm a little bit more worried than I was at the beginning.

[C]

Mike, he's a professional liar. Didn't answer it quickly. Don't have time for pet peeves. See you later, Whittingham. Yeah, I mean, you just, you. You just can't help but yammer.

[A]

Too wordy. That was like a 37 second answer. I thought that was appropriate.

[E]

Tell us our audiences, Chris Whittingham Fancy lad.

[C]

We're out of time. It's nice seeing you again. Check him out. Champions League back on Paramount plus 3pm from 3pm today. He's an asshole from 3pm and at all times.

[A]

Get out of here.

[C]

See you later, Whittingham.

[A]

Two Stanley cups.

[C]

We'll talk to you soon, I hope.

[A]

Kate, Thierry, Jamie and Micah with the show at halftime. If you want to watch, Pablo Torre.

[C]

Is going to join us here in a few minutes. Billy is wearing a cowboy hat. We're going to check in with him. We're going to get to hear from our resident gearhead in a second as well. Billy the hockey show. Billy, where are you with things right now? Who the hell?

[A]

Thank you, Rose.

[C]

What is Rose doing? What? What?

[A]

That. That was Rose promoting the hockey show every Friday.

[C]

But where did she come from? I don't see Rose.

[D]

I an undisclosed location.

[C]

Okay, Billy, what kind of updates do you have from the undisclosed location?

[B]

Hey, Dan, we are. We're ready for roots in the ground as they say over here. So moving pretty quick.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Quick on this planet.

[C]

All right, good. I wait to do this with Cooper Manning hat. No, it's smaller than the Cooper Manning hat, but he is doing this in style. And we will plant a tree with Pablo Torre in a moment. But we got to do gearhead here. Mike Ryan, go find the gearhead. Oh, wow. You had it right in your hand. All right, that's good. You're always ready. I got a heads up. You're always ready. You're always ready for gearhead. Give us a gear head update.

[E]

We chopped off four from the NASCAR cup series playoffs. Now we are in the final 12 out is Shane van Ginsbergen, the dynamo when it comes to the road courses so people don't have to worry about a perceived one trick pony winning the biggest trophy in the sport. NASCAR makes its playoff return to New Hampshire. First race of its kind since 2017. There can be a random track so expect big time playoff implications. Christopher Bell won at Bristol Motor Speedway. That happened Saturday night. It seems as though this is going to be a highly contested cup series. Joey Logano on that cut line has to make something happen if he wants to get a fourth championship and defend his crown.

[C]

Is there a read that you have to do to support your gearhead segment?

[E]

Gearhead is presented by NASCAR for all the latest insights and storylines. To find out when and where to watch, visit NASCAR.com thank you for that, Dan.

[C]

Oh, Chris, Cody, do me the favor please. Zaslow wants to publicly accuse Colin Cowherd of something. Let's play the sound of Colin Cowherd and what he had to say.

[A]

Hall of fame. But I was thinking this morning that if you combined it like basketball and and it was just there was a football hall of fame, you could count college and pro. I would make an argument today the greatest coach in the history of football is not Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi. It's Jim Harbaugh, the greatest coach ever. I've heard that recently.

[D]

I'll be damned. I said that on Monday. And that thought came from this brain and this heart. And then the next day, the very next day, Colin Coward says the same thing. Now, maybe I'm a little bit at fault here for not saying something and then following with copyright. Maybe that's a little bit on me. But I did not expect the very next. Can you least wait a week? The very next day we're saying the exact same thing that I did about Harbaugh. He flew by you too.

[A]

You said all time great. He's like the greatest coach.

[D]

I don't like it.

[C]

He said all time great. Zaslo did. And Colin Cowherd did go just right past Belichick. But I thought he was going to say Pete Carroll.

[A]

Yeah, he's won in both places.

[D]

Believe me, if I would have said Pete Carroll, he just said Pete Carroll.

[E]

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