The Big Suey: Go Bananas

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Go Bananas

Episode Details:

• Title: The Big Suey: Go Bananas
• Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
• Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Billy Corben, Chris Cote
• Release Date: July 9, 2025
• Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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1. NFL Salary Cap Challenges and Micro Betting Scandals

Timeframe: 02:09 – 07:38

The episode kicks off with a deep dive into the complexities of the NFL's salary cap, highlighted by a recent scandal involving micro bets. Mike Ryan explains the concept of micro betting, clarifying that it involves small, real-time wagers on specific in-game events (e.g., the outcome of the next pitch). He cites the case of Luis Ortiz, a Nationals pitcher on the Cleveland Guardians’ roster, who was placed on indefinite leave after suspicious betting patterns were detected. Specifically, bets were made on whether Ortiz's first pitch would be a ball or a hit by pitch, with outcomes that raised red flags across three different states.

Notable Quote:

Mike Ryan [02:21]: "That's exactly the reason that you keep prop bets because that's how that gets caught. That is remarkably dumb because no one else is betting that."

Stugotz and Chris Cote further discuss the implications of such betting behaviors, emphasizing the ease with which authorities can trace and investigate these suspicious activities. They highlight the broader issue of integrity in sports betting and the potential for collusion among bettors.

2. DeMora Smith’s Controversial Book and NFL Union Dynamics

Timeframe: 06:18 – 08:37

The conversation shifts to DeMora Smith, the head of the NFL Players' Union, who has recently authored a book critiquing key figures in the NFL, including Commissioner Roger Goodell and quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Billy Corben opines that Smith's remarks appear unprofessional and suggest underlying tensions within the union. The hosts speculate on the potential motives behind Smith's outspoken criticism, with some suggesting it targets "low-hanging fruit" to gain publicity.

Notable Quote:

Mike Ryan [07:54]: "He calls Roger Goodell a 'cold, dark void.' He calls Jerry Jones cheap."

Stugotz defends the credibility of Smith by mentioning his past association with anonymous NFL players, countering skepticism about the validity of Smith's claims. The discussion underscores the strained relationships and power dynamics between the players' union and the NFL's management.

3. Historical Financial Decisions in the NFL: The Don Shula Case

Timeframe: 09:02 – 11:25

The hosts reminisce about Don Shula, former Miami Dolphins coach, focusing on his significant yet misguided financial decision in 1976 when he sold his ownership stake back to team owner Joe Robbie. Chris Cote underscores the magnitude of this decision, estimating that if Shula had retained even a 10% stake, it would be worth approximately $800 million today. Stugotz criticizes this move as "gross mismanagement," highlighting its long-term detrimental effects on the Shula family's legacy within the NFL.

Notable Quote:

Chris Cote [10:00]: "This is gonna ruin the Shulas forever."

4. The Evolution of NFL Contracts: From Peyton Manning to Brock Purdy

Timeframe: 12:07 – 15:55

Mike Ryan elaborates on the transformation of NFL contracts, using Peyton Manning’s initial contract as a baseline—highlighting that Manning’s deal had zero guaranteed money, contrasting sharply with contemporary contracts like Brock Purdy’s, where 70% of his earnings are guaranteed. He argues that this shift has led to increased salary cap pressures, making it difficult for teams to manage their finances effectively.

Notable Quote:

Mike Ryan [14:35]: "The cap has gone up 346%, but the quarterback market has gone up 408%, so that the quarterback is now chewing up, eating up more and more of your salary cap."

Stugotz adds that this escalation in quarterback salaries has forced teams like the New Orleans Saints into precarious financial positions, exacerbated by unexpected events like the pandemic, which disrupted usual salary cap growth patterns.

5. Music Industry Reflections: Pearl Jam and Ozzy Osbourne

Timeframe: 20:56 – 29:46

The panel transitions to music, discussing the retirement of Pearl Jam’s drummer, Matt Cameron. Billy Corben expresses sadness over Cameron’s departure, noting the band's uncertain future without him. Concurrently, the hosts review Ozzy Osbourne’s recent performance alongside Black Sabbath, remarking on his enduring legacy despite health challenges.

Notable Quote:

Billy Corben [21:02]: "I was very sad. I was very bummed about that man."

Stugotz praises the emotional depth of Ozzy’s performance, particularly the rendition of "Mama, I'm Coming Home," which elicited a strong emotional response from both the audience and the band members.

Notable Quote:

Stugotz [28:00]: "He sounds pretty good for someone that was stationary. And it was a beautiful moment."

6. Rock Music's Place in Modern Culture

Timeframe: 27:26 – 35:51

Stugotz and the panel discuss the current state of rock music, debating whether the genre still holds significant cultural influence. Stugotz points out emerging bands like Turnstile and Idols and Fontaine's DC, suggesting that rock music may be poised for a resurgence as new bands gain popularity. The conversation touches on nostalgia and the cyclical nature of music trends, with a consensus that rock, while not always in the mainstream spotlight, continues to evolve and impact listeners.

Notable Quote:

Stugotz [26:46]: "I do think that rock music is eventually going to have something to say and kids are going to gravitate to it because that's just the cycle of pop culture."

7. Netflix's Role in Music Documentation and Media Production

Timeframe: 32:43 – 38:43

The discussion shifts to Netflix’s documentary content, specifically a Led Zeppelin documentary, and its impact on the legacy of classic rock bands. Mike Ryan shares his admiration for the Kennedy Center’s tribute performances, contrasting them with Netflix’s offerings. The panel critiques Netflix’s approach to high-budget productions that may not resonate as effectively as more artistically driven projects.

Notable Quote:

Mike Ryan [33:04]: "How you see Led Zeppelin listening to their own music performed by a chorus and the lead singer for Hart. And you can see that their breath is taken away by seeing their own song performed by others in a way that overwhelms them."

8. Sports Highlights: Baseball's Exciting Plays

Timeframe: 38:43 – 44:50

The hosts segue into baseball, highlighting spectacular plays that have recently captured their attention. Mike Ryan describes Jackson Merrill’s impressive catch that prevented a home run, illustrating how such moments are becoming increasingly common and adding excitement to the game.

Notable Quote:

Mike Ryan [39:12]: "Jackson Merrill reached over the center field fence and took a home run and then jogged into the dugout without any reaction whatsoever."

Billy Corben and Chris Cote discuss the rarity and thrill of inside-the-park home runs, recounting specific instances that left the audience in awe. The conversation delves into the unpredictability and sheer athleticism required for such plays, emphasizing their role in enhancing the spectator experience.

Notable Quote:

Chris Cote [41:32]: "Run inside the park, walk off home run first walk off home run inside the park, Walk off home run by a catcher since 19 something."

9. Cultural Expressions: The Phrase "Go Bananas"

Timeframe: 44:16 – 45:18

In a lighter segment, the hosts explore the origins and usage of the phrase "go bananas," debating its cultural significance and the reasons behind its popularity compared to other expressions like "go coconuts" or "go ape."

Notable Quote:

Tony [44:16]: "The origins are debated. The phrase is likely linked to a behavior of primates when they encounter bananas, which could be quite energetic and frenzied."

Stugotz humorously references interactions at Zoo Miami, illustrating how animals, particularly primates, react energetically to familiar stimuli, paralleling the human use of the phrase.

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Conclusion

In "The Big Suey: Go Bananas," The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers an engaging blend of sports analysis, pop culture commentary, and lighthearted banter. From dissecting the intricacies of the NFL's salary cap and gambling scandals to reflecting on the enduring legacies of rock icons like Ozzy Osbourne and Pearl Jam, the hosts provide insightful perspectives interwoven with humor and personal anecdotes. The episode also touches on contemporary media trends and exhilarating sports moments, ensuring a rich and comprehensive listening experience for fans and newcomers alike.

Key Takeaways:

• The evolving dynamics of NFL contracts and the challenges posed by escalating quarterback salaries.
• Concerns over integrity in sports betting, particularly with the rise of micro bets.
• The impact of leadership figures like DeMora Smith on NFL player relations and management.
• Reflections on the state of rock music and its potential for resurgence through new and classic acts.
• The role of media platforms like Netflix in shaping public perception of legendary music groups.
• Appreciation for spectacular athletic feats in baseball that enhance the game's excitement.

Notable Moments:

• Discussion on Luis Ortiz's micro betting scandal ([02:21]).
• Insights into DeMora Smith’s controversial book and its implications ([07:05]).
• Emotional recount of Ozzy Osbourne’s performance with Black Sabbath ([28:00]).
• Analysis of Jackson Merrill’s game-saving baseball play ([39:12]).

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This summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions and notable quotes to provide a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened.

Transcript

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Corben]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Corben]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Do you guys know the term micro bet? Do you guys know? Are you familiar with what a micro bet?

[Billy Corben]

Is it like a prop?

[Mike Ryan]

Is it? Is a prop like a dollar bet?

[Chris Cote]

$2?00?

[Mike Ryan]

Nope. That is a good guess. But it is. It is the reason that Luis Ortiz, nationals pitcher was is on indefinite guardians leave. Guardian. Excuse me. He's with Cleveland. Yes, my bad. He is on leave because he got caught or allegedly has been removed because when they studied some micro bets being made, they saw in three different. Allegedly people had bet that his first pitch of an inning would be either a ball or a hit by pitch. And it happened twice. And there were bets coming from different states and the pitches were well outside of the strike zone and were balls and they were winning bets. And a lot of people are pointing to that as an alarm and saying that's one of the reasons that you should eliminate prop bets. And I'm saying that's exactly the reason that you keep prop bets because that's how that gets caught. That is remarkably dumb because no one else is betting that. So there are no one, there's no one else in the world that's taking those bets except the people who are making the bets because they know something in three different states. That's how and why that gets flagged.

[Billy Corben]

Like which is more unusual, that right there that you just described or you know, the people betting John Tay Porter under two and a half rebounds. You know it's both so stupid that you would think you wouldn't get caught there.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm still unclear what exactly a micro bet is.

[Stugotz]

Small real time wagers.

[Dan LeBatard]

So like in the game, like what happens next?

[Stugotz]

A lot easier to do in football because the pace of the game allows for this. Like if for bigger games like the super bowl, what will the result of the next play be? You can get that on a lot of major sportsbooks.

[Mike Ryan]

I'd say though that once you're in the position of needing the action that desperately, I would call for help on where it is that some of your gambling problems are. If you need action so desperately that you're on a guardians game betting whether the first pitch is going to be a ball or, or a strike, that's living.

[Stugotz]

That is living. That sounds like a perfect Wednesday afternoon. So I'm glad we covered the full spectrum here. Do so responsibly or seek help wherever you land in there. Just do it the right way, responsibly. And don't do it with some inside information because you're gonna get pinched.

[Mike Ryan]

These days that is how people get caught on their stupidity. When the bets are that stupid that no one else is making them except the people in three states who know something.

[Dan LeBatard]

But it could just be a junk. Like it could just be someone who loves action. Like if I'm obscurely bet this thing, someone's going to look at it and be like that must be that pitcher.

[Billy Corben]

Because who else would bet that?

[Chris Cote]

I'll tell you who else would.

[Stugotz]

I would yeah, but they seize on suspicious betting patterns. Things like that can stick out, especially if it doesn't necessarily reflect previous action. Like, why are you only locked in on this pitcher for this game? Also, outsized bets. They do all sorts of investigations, trace it back on social media to see if an influencers put this bet out there. And it's actually really easy for them to determine. They have a lot of data.

[Chris Cote]

Also, the pitch or one of the pitches in question was like 15ft outside, bounced and hit three behind Tone Blake.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it happens.

[Chris Cote]

Not even close to being a strike.

[Billy Corben]

Let's leave no room for error here.

[Chris Cote]

I don't want to accidentally throw a strike here.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, what you don't want is someone swinging and fouling it off.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't want to get Angel Hernandez where he calls a ball a strike.

[Chris Cote]

And you're like, no, I missed that call.

[Stugotz]

It's probably why they got him out of the game. Handling integrity.

[Billy Corben]

I like the idea that he throws the ball in the dirt and if the umpire calls it a strike, does he argue? Watch.

[Mike Ryan]

Screams and yells. DeMora Smith is writing a book and I'm wondering. Or it's coming out in August. He's written the book and he's gone after Roger Goodell in it. He goes after Aaron Rodgers in it. What were your thoughts, Zasla, when you heard that the head of the NFL players union was writing a book in which he goes after an assortment of people?

[Billy Corben]

My thought was this tracks like, this is. This is. I feel like this is what we heard about De Mori Smith when he was running the union, that he was not liked and that there was something off about him. And now you have a union former union chief who's writing a book that comes off, at least from the quotes that we're seeing in the book. Comes off super low rent. It does, I think so, yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Because.

[Billy Corben]

Well, because, I mean, he's. It seems like. It seems unprofessional, you know, the things that he's saying there. And why would you. And he's attacking both sides, you know, so I guess, I guess you're being fair in that sense that he's attacking both sides. But man, it seems like low hanging fruit going Goodell, let's make sure we say something bad about him. Everybody knows about him. Jerry Jones, let's say, let's make sure you know something bad about him. And this way you get the quotes out there and it sounds salacious and people are into it. I just remember hearing from anonymous players that Dimores Smith.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Something off there.

[Mike Ryan]

I have talked. What are you laughing about?

[Chris Cote]

Anonymous players just reach out. Zaz, this Marie Smith. I got to tell you something.

[Billy Corben]

You don't believe that anonymous players reach out to me.

[Chris Cote]

I just don't understand. Why not have NFL players reaching out to you to take shots at the union head?

[Stugotz]

Something wrong there, Billy? He used to host a show with an anonymous football player.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me get the quotes. He calls Roger Goodell a quote, cold, dark void. He calls Jerry Jones cheap.

[Dan LeBatard]

Quote.

[Mike Ryan]

If Jerry Jones saw a dollar bill on the ground, I truly believe he'd stop and pick it up.

[Stugotz]

Wouldn't you?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. I don't think that that's an indictment, Jones. I asked Wayne Huizenga, the former owner of the Marlins and Dolphins, that question one time. What is the lowest amount of money that you would stop and pick over a pickup on the floor? He's like a penny.

[Chris Cote]

Wow. I miss those days.

[Stugotz]

Phew.

[Billy Corben]

Well, damaure Smith thinks that's lame.

[Stugotz]

Just want to be abundantly clear to this beloved football player that I love with all my heart, that I want no smoke with. I was not calling you anonymous. I was just trying to protect your privacy. Rom dog.

[Billy Corben]

I love Romberg. So he's the man.

[Stugotz]

I'm not. I'm not taking a shot.

[Mike Ryan]

You did take a shot.

[Stugotz]

No, I don't know. Don't you do that? No, I wasn't. I was making a joke. Contextual. I'm covered. You stop stirring up shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think that was the shot right there.

[Mike Ryan]

Just did.

[Chris Cote]

Whoa.

[Stugotz]

We had to save your life from Joaquin Gonzalez one time. And Romberg probably right.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Stugotz]

Stop stirring up shit.

[Billy Corben]

Really?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, really.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike Ryan took the opportunity when you mentioned that you talked to anonymous players to both make fun of you like Billy did.

[Chris Cote]

Why did Mike do that?

[Mike Ryan]

I was jumping down, man.

[Chris Cote]

Mike just came over calling out Zaz, saying that no NFL players talked.

[Billy Corben]

It was wild.

[Stugotz]

Dan, you're going down the wrong road here, pal.

[Mike Ryan]

You made a joke that he hosted a show, a very popular morning show for many years, with an anonymous NFL player.

[Stugotz]

No, because I wasn't gonna rat him out. Billy was poking holes as to whether or not Zaz would have in his network former NFL players. And I don't want to dox Brett Romberg, but thank you, Dan, for totally having the joke over here.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, okay. So you're saying that he was anonymous, as in that's the person who has given me the info, as opposed to him being, like, a nobody?

[Stugotz]

Precisely. How am I the only one following this it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Chris Cote]

He would have said that about Leroy Horde.

[Stugotz]

I would have.

[Chris Cote]

But he does a show with Tobin.

[Stugotz]

Oh, I love Leroy Hor.

[Chris Cote]

Who also did a show with Zach but didn't play in the NFL.

[Stugotz]

Not insulting these players, by the way.

[Chris Cote]

Just a quick aside here as we're talking about the Dolphins. So I, I guess I don't follow this account, but it's a for you. DolphinsTalk.com this day in Dolphins history, July 9, 1976. Don Shula signs a five year extension with the Miami Dolphins and sells back his ownership stake in the team to Joe Robbie. Huge mistake. Imagine having 10% of the dolphins in 1976. You've had it since 1970, and you sell it back for pennies. Mike Shula's got to be like, come on. I mean, right now he'd have $800 million if he just held onto that 10% stake. That's crazy, right? Horrible financial decision.

[Stugotz]

Now he's just holding on to stakes of stakes.

[Chris Cote]

This is gonna, this is gonna ruin the Shula's forever.

[Mike Ryan]

I just want to understand a little bit better because your segue was. Since we were talking about the Dolphins.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

When were we talking about the Dolphins?

[Chris Cote]

We were talking about the Dolphins. We're talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, go ahead, give me.

[Chris Cote]

You said Wayne Huizenga, Dolphins owner.

[Stugotz]

It was.

[Chris Cote]

And Marlins owner Wayne Isinga, contextually, former Dolphins owner Joe Robbie and Dolphins coach and hall of Famer Don Shula.

[Billy Corben]

I would say, though, that meant we were talking about picking up money, not talking about the Dolphins.

[Chris Cote]

Speaking of money, Don Shula could have had $800 million right now, the Shula estate, had he been smarter with his financial properties.

[Stugotz]

Wednesdays move fast.

[Mike Ryan]

Speaking of money, and because you guys are often interested in the salary cap, I am curious whether you're interested about the information that I'm about to give you on the salary cap. You saw that story recently about from Pablo Torre finds out about how immediately after Deshaun Watson's guaranteed money contract, two days later, the. The owners got together and are like, we have to be able to fix this. We have to try and collude here and make sure that we stop all this guaranteed money. Do you want to know how much in Peyton Manning's initial contract, how much guaranteed money there was like when he.

[Billy Corben]

Came out of the. In the draft?

[Mike Ryan]

His initial contract? Yes.

[Billy Corben]

Couple million, maybe zero dollars.

[Mike Ryan]

Zero guaranteed dollars. Brock Purdy now has. 70% of his money is guaranteed. Even though you can't totally be sure how good Brock Purdy is. You can't totally be sure. There's a lot of argument about that. 70% of his money is guaranteed. Peyton Manning's was zero. But if you're following, for example, the New Orleans Saints, this was interesting to find out the other day because the Saints have the worst salary cap situation in the league. There were several coaches who didn't want to even interview for the Saints job because everyone knows that Mickey Loomis put them in a terrible position. And this is why Mickey Loomis and how whit Mickey Loomis put him in a terrible position. They had to keep giving Drew Brees money. And the way that they got around the salary cap is by knowing that every year the salary cap goes up and then they just sort of squeeze in every year. Some things that were questionable had a lot of debt in them, were risky. The pandemic comes and then all of a sudden, for the first time, the salary cap goes down. The salary cap doesn't increase at the same rate of speed. But the part that I thought you guys might find interesting about that as a strategy to always just assume that salary cap is going up and take your chances on future mortgages. One of the things that is interesting about what it is that happened there is that the pandemic made it so that the Saints had no idea whatsoever that there was the possibility that the salary cap wouldn't end up going up like it does every year. But as much as the salary cap has gone up every year, and I believe it's. Let me see if I can find the numbers.

[Stugotz]

I don't want to get these wrong. Let me give you some helpful information here. Yeah, he had zero dollars in guaranteed money. However, he made more in base salary than Cam Ward is making this year. The contract that he got was viewed to be so outrageous that it was hugely influential in what we have now, which is a rookie wage scale. So in base salary, way back then, more than 25 years ago, Peyton Manning was making as a number one pick more than this year's number one pick. Now you have signing bonuses that help mitigate that. And the guaranteed money is different than what Peyton Manning got, obviously, which was $0. But remember, Peyton Manning started this crazy run where people entered the league and they essentially, as quarterbacks, had the biggest contracts in the league. And that was unsustainable.

[Mike Ryan]

What's also unsustainable is what I'm about to say to you, though, which is since Peyton Manning, the cap has gone 300 up 346%. But the quarterback market has gone up 408%, so that the quarterback is now chewing up, eating up more and more of your salary cap, no matter how much it goes up. And then you get into a situation like the Saints were in where they have to keep paying their quarterback, Drew Brees, because he's their legend. And now they're. Now they've got a team that coaches.

[Stugotz]

Don'T want to coach, but they. They botched it. You get the replacement in waiting, and the league basically mandates you can take as many chances as you want on quarterbacks. Hell, look what Cleveland did this year in Taken to. They take Shador and Dylan Gabriel. If they're not happy with their number one overall draft pick, they can divest easily. And it's not an albatross on their cap number the way that it was. What happened in New Orleans is gross mismanagement. A lot of greed from their quarterback. Remember, they had a bunch of guys coming up at the same time. Jimmy Graham, they. He wanted his. He wasn't gonna do the Tom Brady thing, which is like, let me work within the margins with you guys, see what kind of deferred money I can get. See what kind of signing bonuses I could get. Drew Brees was about that money.

[Tony]

The other thing, too is Derek Carr's retirement also put them in further cap hell because they restructured the contract went from 20 million to 69 million in 2026.

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[Stugotz]

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[Billy Corben]

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[Mike Ryan]

How you love that cat. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple A Stugats. These are smiles till LeBron's a clutch again. Clutch again. Clutch again.

[Billy Corben]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

Speaking of money, the Thunder have now guaranteed Chet Holmgren 200. So the champions have now spent $535 million on two guys, Chet Holmgren and Sga Zaslow, for those of you who might not know, is a giant Pearl Jam fan.

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

How did you react to the news that Pearl Jam's drummer is retiring?

[Billy Corben]

Oh, Dan, I was very sad. I was very bummed about that man. All of a sudden, Pearl J, out of nowhere, seemingly. They just wrapped up the tour. I saw him a bunch of times on this tour. I don't know if you remember that. And the drummer, Matt Cameron, he was with him for 27 years and he steps down. I don't know what it means for the future, but they need a new drummer now. You can't have a band without a drummer. So I was upset about it. But here's the thing, all right? Here's what I'm dealing with now. I'm very upset about something that's going on at home. As a result, in the Zazlow mansion. As a result of Pearl Jams drummer Matt Cameron leaving the band. My wife is celebrating this. She. I mean, that's garbage, right? My wife is celebrating divorce. She's happy that he left the band because she thinks it means that the band overall is closer to retiring as a whole and no longer touring. Because she hates when I go on tour with the band. She hates when I go. And I guess what guys spend money.

[Chris Cote]

That's money for her.

[Billy Corben]

On.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, she.

[Stugotz]

Wives.

[Billy Corben]

Wives, Dan. Everyone loves money, and wives love money.

[Mike Ryan]

And wives, they're. They're part of everyone.

[Billy Corben]

So my wife, she's like. She's. She's chastising me around the house. You're done. No more Pearl Jam. You know? And I'm like, man, I really don't like you right now.

[Chris Cote]

He's heckling. You love longer. Pearl Jam or your wife.

[Billy Corben]

Pearl Jam.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. So if I were her, I would be very careful.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, I didn't say that I love Pearl Jam more, but my love affair with Pearl Jam is, like, twice as long as with her.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

So thank you. I'm glad you agree on that, the both of you. I wanted to discuss, though, with you guys not. Not how Zaz's wife feels about.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, it's a problem.

[Mike Ryan]

But I was a little startled a couple of weeks ago, okay. Because the entirety of the room was making fun of me about sounding old in a number of different ways, talking about the death of rock and roll, but more specifically, being confused by how a rock band like Pearl Jam or Aerosmith. Aerosmith was the one that I was thinking of how that would even break today. How would that happen today? Is it even possible as my old rock stars all look like, you know, your friend Joey's old aunt. You've got Steven Tyler looking like, you know, your friend's old aunt Bonnie. You have.

[Stugotz]

I believe all these photos are altered that we're showing on the screen.

[Mike Ryan]

I believe. I don't believe that Steven Tyler photo is altered.

[Stugotz]

I believe, yes, it is. Yeah, they all are. This is off the Internet.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, well, but I'm. I'm telling you that Steven Tyler find me better photos than those of my old rock stars. Ozzy Osbo. Marilyn Manson.

[Billy Corben]

Marilyn Manson pictures.

[Mike Ryan]

Jon Bon Jovi. Jon Bon Jovi.

[Stugotz]

That one's real.

[Billy Corben]

That's how he looks. That's how he looks.

[Mike Ryan]

That's how Steven Tyler looks as well.

[Dan LeBatard]

But that's how Steven Tyler.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he has wrinkles.

[Chris Cote]

The other one looked like Julia Roberts.

[Mike Ryan]

I think that that photo is real.

[Stugotz]

It really does.

[Mike Ryan]

I think that that. That is. I believe that that is a real photo of the lead singer, Marching Mom.

[Stugotz]

It would be the lone real photo in a set of four that are doctored.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike, I'm telling you to go look. Go search the entirety of the Internet for Steven Tyler photos, and you will find Steven Tyler crushed it with Ozzy Osbourne this weekend. And what I wanted to talk about was Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne closing down Ozzy's career and what felt like celebrating the end of his life. Because Ozzy Osbourne has been in poor health for a long time. One of the most amazing things of my lifetime is to watch Ozzy Osbourne go from person who America figured was Satanic and a Satan worshipper to somebody who had such a bad drug problem that other drug addicts in music were startled when he topped them by snorting a line of ants that was on the floor on its way to a popsicle stick. That guy becomes a sitcom dad somehow on reality television.

[Billy Corben]

They were the first reality TV family, I think. Right.

[Mike Ryan]

Seeing Ozzy Osbourne as a sitcom dad was confusing to me, given that my childhood was filled with warnings from priests about how he was a Satanist. But so Mike Ryan says to me when I'm like, how does a rock band, how can an old timey rock band even break today to become popular? And Mike Ryan's condescending response to me was, the arena across the street is going to be filled with a satanic band this weekend that is performing. And I'm going, it happens all the time.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Ghost rock music is still chugging along. Ghost had a chart topping album very recently. Rock music has kind of operated in the same space for the past 25 years. Really. Ever since grunge had its moment in time, it hasn't dominated the music sphere back. You could make an argument rock was at the forefront of what was happening in music. Hasn't necessarily been the case. It's been more indie rock has its moment in the early 2000s. Radiohead popped in the late 90s, kind of taking it from Grunch a little bit. But there's still very good rock music being made, very interesting music being made. There's a band called Turnstile that's blowing up this summer. Bands like Idols and Fontaine's DC that are that their arrows are pointing up. I do think that rock music is eventually going to have something to say and kids are going to gravitate to it because that's just the cycle of pop culture.

[Mike Ryan]

Were you moved by Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath this weekend?

[Stugotz]

I was super moved. And by the way, to that point, rock music was huge in the 60s. Had very similar lulls in its popularity in the 70s and 80s. Comes back in the 90s. So for this specific genre of music, at least in this country, it's not uncommon for it to kind of go away and not be at the forefront of everybody's mind musically. And then all of a sudden blow up and have its moment. Is this the moment? I don't know. Maybe not. We'll see. There needs to be an American band that does what Kind of Turnstile does on a much larger scale. But watching the Ozzy Osbourne clips, because when they announced this show, I'm like, okay, one last cash grab, as this dude who can barely walk is gonna fight through these things.

[Billy Corben]

Well, he couldn't walk. I mean, they brought him out there on a throne. He sat on the throne the whole time.

[Stugotz]

Sat on the throne the entire time. And I had no idea that the. The programming around this, they had a rotating stage, so bands would set up behind the bands that are going on.

[Billy Corben]

Great. When festivals have the rotating stage, I love that.

[Stugotz]

So you don't miss a moment of the action. They just rotate the stage and boom, there's Metallica ready to go. There were so many great bands that were of Black Sabbath's time. Well, not necessarily Black Sabbath, but Ozzy solo time of the 90s. And contemporary acts over there was really a dream card.

[Billy Corben]

And it was quick. It's like each band, even like Metallica, they only had like 15 minutes. It was just a giant show of.

[Mike Ryan]

Respect for what Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath meant as edgy. Edgy people who really shook the core of America. Because, among others, the church was really mad about the existence of Ozzy Osborne. For those of you who don't know any of Ozzy Osbourne's controversies, you can find some of them for me. But one of them was that he was on stage early in life and just bit the head off of a bat.

[Stugotz]

Bit the head off a bat. That adds to the legend. And obviously kids would gravitate towards that because it was scary. The Church would warn, your parents would warn. And people are naturally rebellious and sometimes they'll gravitate to conservatives. I forgot about back then, satanic, you know, rock music. But what was really cool were the super groups that they formed, Stephen Tyler, who, keep in mind, Aerosmith retired, they broke up, they're done touring because Steven Tyler could not do it day in and day out. But, man, I guess he rested his voice for this one show. He knocked everybody's socks off. It was an unbelievable performance. And I guess the real cool moment of the night was Ozzy sounded pretty good for someone that was stationary. And it was beautiful moments. Ozzy and Black Sabbath, they do have some pretty songs that have deep, impactful lyrics. And to hear the audience sing it back to him and you could see it wash across his frozen face. That, wow. Like, they. They love me. It was a wonderful moment where people get to.

[Billy Corben]

He got emotional when he was singing Mama, I'm Coming Home.

[Stugotz]

That was. That was a goosebump inducing moment. I have goosebumps right now. Yeah, because you basically realize, wait, is this a funeral?

[Billy Corben]

Kind of felt like it. Mike's right. It was, it was really great. Black Sabbath and then Ozzy playing together again. But, man, best part of the night, Steven Tyler stole the show. Like that was that. You want to talk about goosebumps? That was incredible because I remember Aerosmith was on tour last year with Black Crows. I was gonna go to that show. That's an amazing show. And they had to cancel because Steven Tyler just can't do it anymore. He had throat surgery. He can't sing anymore. It's over. He's 77 years old. And then all of a sudden we got Steven Tyler up there doing Whole Lot of Love by Led Zeppelin and just killing it. He stole the show.

[Tony]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Billy Corben]

Dan Levitard the hoy is Captain Slappy.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats is this chum bucket.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, I want to bring up a couple of things here off of what it is you guys are saying. I don't know if any of you have seen these documentaries. There's a Led Zeppelin documentary on Netflix. I haven't seen a whole lot of Led Zeppelin documentaries or information ever, so that must be some exclusive access. Hulu has one on Kiss that's going to be less exclusive because Kiss is the most commercial band of all time.

[Billy Corben]

I don't get Kiss.

[Mike Ryan]

Paul, Ace Freely, Paul Stanley. Let me think for a second here. The lead singer of Kiss is Paul Stanley and his voice is shot too.

[Stugotz]

You have Paul and you have Gene. Occasionally that comes in. Yeah, they were all. I mean, they're older.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know if that documentary is any good. But I have told you guys before, and I will tell you again that some of the best music and television that I have ever seen is the Kennedy Center. When they are honoring Led Zeppelin and they're doing so with the lead singer of Hart and an orchestra. I urge you to check it out and you see what you guys are talking about where Ozzy Osbourne is moved. You see Led Zeppelin listening to their own music performed by a chorus and the lead singer for Hart. And you can see that their breath is taken away by seeing their own song performed by others in a way that overwhelms them. And I say again, not only was it some of the best music I have ever heard, it's some of the best television I've ever seen. The way that they used the crowd and showed you Led Zeppelin's band members just awed by seeing their own music performed that way.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones, the remaining members, along with Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin, they've wanted to. There have been times in the past they've wanted to get back together and tour. And the prevailing thought is Robert Plant always says no because he just can't hit the notes anymore. Like, he can't sing the songs anymore.

[Stugotz]

Doesn't necessarily. I guess they have a high standard. Look, if you try to watch GnR right now, it's a little painful.

[Billy Corben]

Axl looked great, but he's lost so much weight.

[Stugotz]

But he sounds like dog crap.

[Mike Ryan]

And. And when they returned, Axl was also injured. So he was doing the show from a throne. And when your lead singer, who used to have enormous energy has to sit down, there's a palpable sadness no matter how good the performance is. Watching your old rock star, who is a symbol for youth, have to sit on the stage because he can't stand up. That's always sad, even if the music's good.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. But I understand why Steven Tyler decided to step away. Probably watching these videos of Axl and Vince Neil. Like, I have this higher pitched voice. When that goes, it sounds much worse than the more baritone dudes. And I don't want to go out like that. Some people are fine doing the cash grabs. I actually saw Robert Plant not too long ago. I saw him like maybe seven years ago. I didn't think he sounded bad. Now he doesn't sound like Zeppelin. Robert Plant, because very few can. But I think with the nostalgia and especially that band where the instrumentation is such a huge part of it, being able to watch Jimmy Page live would be as impressive, if not more so than hearing Robert Plant. I. I would love to see one last go. As someone that never really had the opportunity to see them.

[Billy Corben]

They're greatest band ever. Like, I would. I would travel anywhere to go see them if they were to play again.

[Stugotz]

Daft Punk for me.

[Mike Ryan]

Because we were talking about the Netflix promotion of Led Zeppelin, which I, again, I'm not familiar with Led Zeppelin ever giving access to any of this stuff. I don't know how good or not this documentary is or how much they traded in exchange for. For that access. But when I asked you guys to give me Netflix, best blockbuster movie ever, because they have things like red notice cost $200 million. The Gray man cost $250 million. And Netflix feels to me like it is trying to find the most mass audience with its Giant movies. And it's missing by a note each time because it doesn't seem any of their giant movies are hitting. When I say Red Notice and the Gray Men had those kinds of budgets. That's bigger than Dune, that's bigger than Oppenheimer, that's bigger than Barbie. Does Netflix have a giant movie that they have made that is considered the best of their original programming? Because again, they are trying. I've told you guys before that Netflix, as much as they're in the entertainment business, they're in the information. They're information business. Don't look up as well.

[Stugotz]

No, I'm not telling you to not research it. I'm telling you that was a movie with Leo DiCaprio.

[Mike Ryan]

What? Yes. With Adam McKay. Don't look up was a big success.

[Stugotz]

For them is that it did have a limited theatrical run before it went on Netflix. But that is a Netflix movie. I would say Carry on with Taron Edgerton was a nice little 90s action throwback. And don't forget Extraction. I like that movie Extraction, which spawned a sequel. Extraction, of course, Title character. Well, main character Tyler Rake kills somebody with a rake.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you guys surprised when I'm telling you their big movies have bigger budgets than Oppenheimer and Barbie and Dune.

[Stugotz]

I'm not so surprised by that because their business strategy is different. They. They don't necessarily care so much about what they spend on those things because they have a subscription model. So they're trying to get people to subscribe to their. And hopefully they stash their credit card and forget that it's there. So I don't know, they could probably justify it. They keep doing it. Although there are reports that Apple has tightened up its budget because Apple throws so much money at its original content and it's not getting the same amount of eyes. According to this list, Red Notice is actually. Which was a critical bomb. Red notices what is touted by Netflix as their most popular original film, followed by Carry on, followed by Don't Look Up.

[Billy Corben]

What about Bird Box?

[Stugotz]

Bird Box is top five.

[Mike Ryan]

Fifth.

[Chris Cote]

The Adam Project is four.

[Billy Corben]

I love that movie.

[Stugotz]

I was with Ryan Reynolds.

[Billy Corben]

I love that movie. Adam.

[Stugotz]

I'm actually surprised because Extraction got critical acclaim and it was a really good action movie. It doesn't seem to be on this top 10 list.

[Mike Ryan]

I've told you guys recently that I am watching baseball a lot more and that I am seeing just about every night in baseball somebody jump over the center field fence to make a catch. It happened last night. Again. Jackson Merrill did it for the Padres.

[Stugotz]

You know, you saw that. I'm like, huh, I guess I must be watching the same SportsCenter top plays. And then since then, two weeks have gone by and all I see is I'm walking past TVs in airports and whatnot, is some spectacular catch being made in the outfield.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, let me explain to you what Jackson Merrill did last night. He clearly robbed a home run in a game that kept Arizona shut out for the game. They did not score a run. This would have won the game. This, because the Padres only scored one run in the game. But this is how much this is happening in this sport. Jackson Merrill reached over the center field fence and took a home run and then jogged into the dugout without any reaction whatsoever. The pitcher, you know, raised his hands and was very happy because he hadn't lost the game. But Jackson Merrill had no reaction whatsoever to doing something that is now just a fly out in baseball because so many people are doing it. And to me, I've always thought that outside of hitting a home run on the last pitch of a game, that's got to be the best feeling that there is of any kind in baseball. I guess I, you know, finishing a perfect game or a, or no hitter, but an individual moment of feeling there can't be a lot better in sports than the ballpark. And the hitter don't know you have the ball, you know, before everyone else knows that your athleticism has just prevented what could have been and what would have been a home run.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I like when the guy, when the outfielder has the fake out where like he attempt, you don't know if he caught it and he just kind.

[Chris Cote]

Of jogs away from the wall.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're not sure yet.

[Billy Corben]

Takes a few steps and then he pulls the ball. I got this.

[Chris Cote]

I see you're jumping over the fence and robbing a home run and I have another play that I think is just as exciting, but you're raising more.

[Mike Ryan]

Exciting from last night.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you calling raise.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, he's gonna try and raise me. I don't think he's got me though. I, I think I got the nuts. He thinks he's got the nuts.

[Chris Cote]

I just said. I see.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. I would also like to show up thing because I've got a nominee to go for it.

[Chris Cote]

Well, there was, there was a play yesterday where there's an inside the park walk off home run, which is quite exciting and it was a rare one where normally like, you know, an inside the park home run is sometimes bases are cleared, someone falls over whatever San Francisco has that weird wall that's like at an angle and it has the brick, so sometimes it'll hit it and it's like a hard ricochet. So ricochets all off of that. Now, the Giants at the time were down two runs. Zaz there were two runners on base. I know when this happened.

[Billy Corben]

So if they both score, it's tied.

[Stugotz]

Can you imagine?

[Chris Cote]

If they both score, it's tied. Now if the batter scores, they win. They win. And guess what happens?

[Billy Corben]

What happened?

[Chris Cote]

Batter scored, they won. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Three.

[Chris Cote]

One.

[Mike Ryan]

Three.

[Chris Cote]

Run inside the park, walk off home run first walk off home run inside the park, Walk off home run by a catcher since 19 something.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't even close. Like you'd think inside the Parker Martin.

[Billy Corben]

Had to be close at the plate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not even close.

[Chris Cote]

Not even close.

[Stugotz]

All right, I see. And I'm gonna go with a play at the plate to end a game. League of their own style, or Pudge style, I would say strong. If you drop somebody in that didn't watch any sports in America. And they saw the end of that Giants playoff game where Pudge just gets up and starts holding the ball.

[Billy Corben]

That was the first time ever a series ended play at the plate.

[Stugotz]

He was like, so full of testosterone. I don't know what was going on. There must have been really, really freaking.

[Chris Cote]

Just testosterone.

[Stugotz]

But just like to the crowd, like, how can you not get juiced for that?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. What a series end. Oh, God. I mean, Dottie, I remember where I was when that happened. Dan, do you remember where you was when that happened?

[Mike Ryan]

Where I was?

[Billy Corben]

Where you was.

[Mike Ryan]

What were you saying, Chris?

[Dan LeBatard]

Dottie Henson dropped that ball on purpose.

[Stugotz]

She was.

[Dan LeBatard]

She felt bad for her sister Kit. Like that was. I wasn't moved by that.

[Chris Cote]

I thought she did that on purpose.

[Mike Ryan]

Patrick Bailey is the catcher for the Giant. I'm stunned that there has been another game in major league history that has ended with a catcher hitting a walk off inside the park home run. I'm surprised that that has happened more than once in the history of baseball. But to Billy's point, that that feels better than robbing a home run. Patrick Bailey himself said, and this was a funny quote, when they asked him how he was feeling, he was like, I'm tired. I wish it had gone over the fence. So it doesn't seem. It doesn't seem like that would feel quite as good if you're panicked and running around the bases in a total. In total fear because you're a catcher who doesn't expect to win the game with an Inside the park. Home run.

[Billy Corben]

He's definitely such a huge liar because if you're watching the replay, like when he's rounding third, the crowd is going bananas. It's so much better than if it were an actual over the fence home run.

[Chris Cote]

Well, the thing with that one too, like, that you see on the video is when he hits it off the bat, every. Everybody thinks it's a home run as it is. So, like you're standing up and like.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And then it hits the wall, you're like, huh?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Because you see that it just skips by the outfielders. And then there's the chase and he's running around and he has to get home. And again, they were down two runs at the time, Zaz. So fall. If both runners on score, tie game. If all three score, game over. Just as good as hitting it over the fence. But more prolonged excitement.

[Mike Ryan]

Tony, would you do me the favor of explaining to me and looking it up for me why a crowd would go bananas? Why bananas is the of choice there ongoing bananas to make it something that identifies as crazy, because I'm not familiar in any way with why it is that bananas is the go to phrase there.

[Chris Cote]

You can't go apples.

[Mike Ryan]

I would think that you could go apples, though, if the phrase forever had been apples. Because then we'd be saying you can't just go bananas.

[Stugotz]

We've talked about this and suggested going coconuts is good would be good.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, bananas doesn't make any sense, though. I don't know why it isn't me. How does it make sense to you?

[Billy Corben]

Because that's the way it's said.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, because shit is bananas.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it because the banana is curved? I don't like what. It's not straight. Like what?

[Tony]

The origins are debated. The phrase is likely linked to a behavior of primates when they encounter bananas, which could be quite energetic and frenzied.

[Billy Corben]

There you go.

[Tony]

Okay, we go bananas.

[Stugotz]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh. This is why people also say, oh, that person's going ape.

[Mike Ryan]

Because. Okay, so I did not. I was not familiar with the fact that apes went a special kind of crazy. Crazier than other animals. When, you know, oh, yeah, with food.

[Dan LeBatard]

At Zoo Miami, when Ron Miguel walks up, they go ape shit.

[Stugotz]

They get excited.

[Dan LeBatard]

They know him.

[Stugotz]

What's up with their asses? It's so gross. Their asses are gross.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I see a dermatologist.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was just about to say no small talk first.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the poll at Levitard show when you're being checked. When Your privates are being checked by the doctor. Do you want any small talk before. Before. Beforehand. The small talk makes it more awkward. You. You just. Hey, Doc, in and out. Well, not too well.

[Dan LeBatard]

Honestly, better than small talk.

[Stugotz]

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