Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: The Big Suey: Ham-and-Egger (feat. Dave Dameshek)
Date: October 24, 2025
Guests: Dave Dameshek
Theme Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

Overview

This episode of "The Big Suey" delivers the show's trademark mash-up of irreverent sports analysis, pop-culture debates, and comedic banter. With Dave Dameshek as featured guest, the crew discusses the intersection of sports and politics in the Terry Rozier arrest, launches into a zany Quentin Tarantino character draft, debates sports "GOATs," and riffs on everything from NFL "what-ifs" to the sociology of breakfast meat. The conversation stays lively, silly, and often subversive, keeping the show’s offbeat tone throughout.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Terry Rozier's Arrest & Politics in Sports

[00:37—04:03]

• Main Takeaway: The crew expresses outrage over the performative nature of Terry Rozier’s public, shackled arrest and critiques the media and institutions for their role in politicizing such events, particularly when it serves to further stigmatize athletes of color.

  • Dan Le Batard: “You should believe less in these institutions than you ever have in your life. I'm talking about both the NBA and investigators and the government.” [01:47]
  • Mike Ryan: “He’s not a flight risk. These are just pageantries for the cameras … It's what kind of crime was committed and what is the reaction in terms of bringing so-called people to justice.” [02:02]
  • Dan Le Batard: "They are political machines... making it look like the brown people are most dangerous. And so it serves them to chain up Terry Rozier on a crime that doesn't deserve this kind of chaining." [02:44]
  • Reference to ice raids and the propensity for law enforcement theatrics for minor crimes, drawing heavy-handed parallels.

• Dave Dameshek's Contrarian Take:

  • "You tried your best, but you are not going to sway me on. That is a welcome sight, Terry Rozier being dragged away in cuffs. That's great. Sorry." [04:10]

2. Dave Dameshek’s New Podcast and Pittsburgh Sports Banter

[05:29—07:55]

• Football América: Dameshek introduces his new Metal Ark Media podcast, “Football América,” with playful confusion over pronunciation and a running joke about domain name ownership.
  • Dameshek: “Football América—pronounce it how you want. If you’re from Pittsburgh, you can say Football Amerika…” [06:01]
• Synergy & Guest Plugs: Episode teases crossover topics like “What if the Seahawks stayed in the AFC?” and upcoming guests (Aman Green).
• Classic Dameshek Anecdote: Tells a story about jokingly offering iconic ref Ed Hockuley a $1 bribe and nearly getting grilled by NFL security.
  • Dameshek: "I realize I have erred immediately. I've made a grave mistake." [08:24]
  • Dan: "Ed Hockey is a man of such integrity that the entire force of the NFL kept the mob away..." [09:57]

3. Movies & Pop-Culture: The Tarantino Character Draft

[14:30—18:52]

• Setup: Tony throws out a “Quentin Tarantino character draft” for a hypothetical road trip, seeking fun conversational fodder, not just football talk.
  • Mike Ryan: Picks Jules from "Pulp Fiction."
    • “I'm gonna go with my man Jules.” [15:45]
    • Debate: Is Jules a good road-trip buddy if he kills people for a living?
  • Dave Dameshek: Picks Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt, “Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood”)
    • “I'm going with Cliff Booth.” [17:03]
    • Elaborates on the theory that Cliff Booth and Aldo Raine could be the same person.
  • Dan: Suggests the bail bondsman from "Jackie Brown" — not popular, teased for loving quiet travel partners.
• Comic Take on Drafting:
  • Draft confusion, mock arguments over best picks, and snappy asides about character personalities.

4. NFL & QB Legacies: Rodgers, Favre, and the Packers

[19:49—21:54]

• Main Discussion: With Packers playing Steelers, the group debates Aaron Rodgers’ legacy.
  • Dan: “I called Aaron Rodgers one of the great underachievers of my lifetime. Because like Shaq, I just expected more winning … that's a four-time MVP! I want him to win all the time.” [19:56]
• Tony’s Analogy: Compares Green Bay’s attitude towards Rodgers to the “I don’t think about you at all” Mad Men meme, implying the organization has moved on emotionally.
• Dameshek: Recalls once believing Rodgers would be the GOAT but now calls his trophy count underwhelming compared to his talent. [21:51]

5. GOAT Debates Across Sports: Ohtani, Mahomes, LeBron, Gretzky vs Crosby

[24:53—29:47]

• Tony’s Premise: Are we currently watching the four all-time greatest athletes in the four major sports?
  • “Ohtani is the greatest baseball player in the history of people. Right? Mahomes probably…” [24:53]
• Basketball:
  • Dan: “Michael Jordan still… LeBron is 1A.”
  • Tony: “If Patrick Mahomes would have beaten the Eagles last six months ago, it would be settled.”
• Baseball:
  • Universal agreement—Ohtani is doing things never seen before.
• Hockey:
  • Tony: Launches into a legendary rant, claiming that Sidney Crosby would dominate 1980s hockey and Wayne Gretzky wouldn’t be as impressive in today’s league.
    • “Gretzky made his hay statistically from 1980 to 1985 when it was the breeziest time ever … you didn’t have to know how to skate to score 40 goals a year.” [27:34]
    • “Sidney Crosby would dominate…in a way that is hard for me to really fathom.” [29:26]
  • Massive pushback and comedic mockery ensues.
    • Dan: “What you’re saying is blasphemy of the highest order…You can’t come on airwaves and expect to be taken seriously with Wayne Gretzky would have been Adam Oates…” [27:51]

6. Ham-and-Egger, Food Insults, and the Sociology of Sides

[30:13—34:54]

• “Ham-and-Egger” Explored:
  • Ongoing inside joke with Tony, Dameshek, and the group having fun dissecting why ham, cheese, and corn are considered comedic insults ("cheesy, corny, hammy") despite being delicious.
    • Tony: “Why, if you want to insult someone’s sense of humor … these are each delicious.” [31:34]
    • Dan: “Tony has reacted as, ‘I like ham! I like eggs!’ This is delicious. Why are you insulting?” [31:50]
  • Extended bit proposing that classic "bad foods" of childhood (e.g., brussels sprouts, cauliflower) have now become trendy.
  • Stuffing as an underappreciated food—call for more year-round stuffing.
    • Tony: “Stuffing is divine. More stuffing, that’s my order of the day.” [33:43]
• Great Diner Orders:
  • Tony: Advocates for “hot turkey sandwich, gravy on the fries,” painting a mouthwatering image.

7. Dameshek's Pittsburgh Sports Deep Dives and Event Promo

[34:26—36:07]

• Comic Bit:
  • Anyone mentioning Pittsburgh sports around Dameshek is warned they'll be “cornered” by stories for hours.
    • Dan: “He will be there until Sunday hearing old Steeler stories if that’s what you want. Someone breathing hot Steeler breath at you.” [35:21]
• Upcoming Flanagan's Event:
  • Details about a block-party style event with Dameshek, and more Pittsburgh references.

8. Breakfast Meats & Miami’s Cuban Cuisine

[36:15—36:55]

• Ham as Breakfast Star:
  • Dameshek: “Ham might be the best breakfast meat … Get that ham out there, chip some off there, drop it in a pan. You can thank me when you get down from cloud nine.” [36:19]
• Croquetas & Cuban food: Recalls tasting Miami delicacies in the Le Batard studios.

9. Pittsburgh in Pop Culture: Hollywood Targets & Movie Tropes

[39:44—41:10]

• Dameshek notes how Pittsburgh sports teams are comedic punching bags or dramatic targets in movies from "Heaven Can Wait" to "Black Sunday" and "The Natural."
  • Tony: “Hollywood targets Pittsburgh and its teams over and over and over again.” [39:44]
  • Dan: Teases Dameshek will discuss 1970s movies endlessly if prompted.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Institutional Distrust:

  • "You should believe less in these institutions than you ever have in your life." — Dan Le Batard [01:47]

• Dameshek’s Contrarian Take on Arrest:

  • “You are not going to sway me … that is a welcome sight, Terry Rozier being dragged away in cuffs.” — Dave Dameshek [04:10]

• Nostalgic NFL Bribery Gone Wrong:

  • “I think it would be cute … I pull out a dollar bill … And I realize I have erred immediately. I’ve made a grave mistake.” — Dave Dameshek [08:24]

• Tarantino Draft Silliness:

  • “Jules kills people.” — Tony [16:21]
  • “Cliff Booth is a great time … He's a coxman to boot.” — Tony [17:20]
  • “Would no one want to be the detective or the bail bondsman in Jackie Brown?” — Dan Le Batard [18:06]

• GOAT Debate: Hockey Insults:

  • “You didn’t have to know how to skate to score 40 goals a year.” — Tony [27:34]
  • “What you’re saying is blasphemy of the highest order.” — Dan Le Batard [27:51]

• Food Insult Navel-Gazing:

  • “What's an insult about being cheesy? I like when my food's cheesy.” — Tony [31:34]
  • “Tony has reacted as, 'I like ham, I like eggs.' This is delicious.” — Dan Le Batard [31:50]

• Dameshek on Pittsburgh Sports Monologues:

  • “If you want to be cornered for 40 minutes by Dave Dameshek to only hear about Mike Tomczak … you will try to get away thinking it was small talk and he'll say, and another thing.” — Tony [34:26]

• Ham Evangelism:

  • “Ham might be the best breakfast meat.” — Dave Dameshek [36:19]

• Pittsburgh in Hollywood:

  • “Hollywood targets Pittsburgh and its teams over and over and over again.” — Tony [39:44]
  • “If you ask him about Heaven Can Wait at the block party, you’ll be there throughout the remainder of the football season with this guy blowing nacho breath in your face talking about a 1976 movie.” — Dan Le Batard [40:58]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Terry Rozier Arrest & Politics – 00:37–04:03
• Dameshek’s NFL Bribery Story – 07:55–10:16
• Football América/Podcast Plug – 05:29–07:55 | 13:23–14:18 | 39:20–39:29
• Tarantino Character Draft – 14:30–18:52
• Rodgers, Packers Legacy Talk – 19:49–21:54
• GOAT Debate (Ohtani, Mahomes, Gretzky, Crosby) – 24:53–29:47
• Ham-and-Egger / Food Sociology – 30:13–34:54
• Flanagan’s Pittsburgh Event Plug – 34:26–36:07
• Breakfast Meat/Buffet Debate – 36:15–36:55
• Pittsburgh in Pop Culture – 39:44–41:10

Tone & Language

• Characteristically quick, irreverent, playful, with debate-style jabs and plenty of off-the-cuff humor.
• Frequent use of sarcasm, self-deprecation, regionally flavored asides, and collective teasing.

For New Listeners

This episode is a great example of the Dan Le Batard Show’s unique blend of sports culture, comedic improv, weird hypotheticals, and authentically odd personalities. You’ll get fresh angles on current sports controversy (the Rozier arrest), a loving skewering of “greatest of all time” debates, deep dives into niche sports and movie trivia, and an extended love letter to both Pittsburgh and cured meats.

Listen if:
You enjoy an unconventional, freewheeling take on sports, aren’t afraid of side tangents, and want a podcast that’s as likely to debate breakfast foods as quarterback legacies.