Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: HE HAS TWO!
Podcast Information:
- Title: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
- Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
- Episode: The Big Suey: HE HAS TWO!
- Release Date: November 20, 2024
- Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
1. Introduction
In this episode titled "The Big Suey: HE HAS TWO!", Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, along with contributors Mike Ryan, Billy Gill, and Amin Elhassan, delve deep into the tumultuous season of the New York Jets. The discussion is anchored around the team's underperformance, ownership issues, and quarterback controversies.
2. New York Jets' Season Under Scrutiny
A. Underperformance and Coaching Changes
The hosts express disappointment over the Jets' performance, highlighting the team's inability to meet expectations despite high hopes at the season's outset.
- Dan Le Batard (02:46): "We have failed again as a show, as we often do not to bring you immediately or more immediately."
The abrupt firing of both the coach and general manager is criticized, with speculation about owner Woody Johnson's interfering nature exacerbating the team's struggles.
- Dan Le Batard (03:04): "Woody Johnson is the rare person who has both first and last name. That would be a reference to penis."
B. Aaron Rodgers' Decline and Possible Replacement
Aaron Rodgers' declining performance is a focal point, with the hosts questioning his future with the Jets. The discussion touches upon whether Woody Johnson’s intervention after week four—potentially benching Rodgers for Tyrod Taylor—was a misstep.
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Mike Ryan (04:08): "It's the first time I've been okay with anything Woody Johnson has ever done."
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Dan Le Batard (04:42): "You're only okay, though, because everything that's happened since has been an unmitigated disaster that can only put at the feet of Aaron Rodgers."
The consensus leans towards Rodgers' tenure being untenable, given the subsequent collapse in team performance.
- Amin Elhassan (05:56): "Regardless of what could have happened, the tenure here in New York is over."
C. Ownership Interference
Woody Johnson’s hands-on approach is heavily criticized as a destabilizing force within the organization, leading to inconsistent decision-making and eroding trust among players and staff.
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Dan Le Batard (07:18): "I don't know what's wrong with Robert."
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Stugotz (07:08): "How did Wood become Woody? I don't know how Wood became a middle name."
3. Broader NFL and Ownership Dynamics
A. Comparison with Other Franchises
The hosts draw parallels between the Jets and other NFL teams like the Dallas Cowboys and Cleveland Browns, emphasizing how wealthy owners often mismanage teams despite having substantial resources.
- Dan Le Batard (08:22): "Many of these people who are wildly wealthy that you credit with being brilliant because they're wildly wealthy, are fools about how to run things."
B. Coaching Careers and Market Appeal
Discussion about the attractiveness of coaching positions in large markets is explored, with skepticism about whether the Jets genuinely offer a coveted job despite their current struggles.
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Mike Ryan (10:30): "Only because this is the most talented the jets have ever been."
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Dan Le Batard (11:17): "You can't be in it. If you need to get a good quarterback to make your team good, it means you're not actually close."
4. Thanksgiving and Holiday Football Conversations
The hosts shift to lighter topics surrounding Thanksgiving football traditions, including discussions about prime-time game slots and personal anecdotes about watching games during family gatherings.
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Dan Le Batard (15:00): "What happened? They stopped that too."
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Stugotz (21:00): "Amin, what is your thanks date? You are not really a giant football guy, right?"
Humor and relatable experiences about balancing holiday festivities with football viewership are shared, adding levity to the episode.
5. Fun Segment: Athletes' Names That Connote Penis
A comedic segment ensues where the hosts and contributors compile lists of athlete names that unintentionally have connotations related to male anatomy. This part is laden with jokes and playful banter.
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Dan Le Batard (22:50): "Jake Michaels. He's a pro."
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Billy Gill (24:05): "Number five, Dick Butkus."
The segment showcases the hosts’ chemistry and ability to infuse humor into their discussions, providing a break from the heavy analysis of the Jets’ season.
6. Conclusion
The episode wraps up with continued discussions about the Jets' slim playoff chances and the unrealistic expectations placed on the franchise due to its market size and ownership style. The hosts reiterate their skepticism about the team's management and future prospects.
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Billy Gill (35:36): "We are."
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Dan Le Batard (36:02): "Thank you, Jeremy, for catching that."
The conversation emphasizes the bleak outlook for the Jets unless significant changes are made in leadership and strategy.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
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Dan Le Batard (02:46): "We have failed again as a show, as we often do not to bring you immediately or more immediately."
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Mike Ryan (04:08): "It's the first time I've been okay with anything Woody Johnson has ever done."
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Dan Le Batard (07:18): "I don't know what's wrong with Robert."
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Stugotz (21:00): "Amin, what is your thanks date? You are not really a giant football guy, right?"
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Billy Gill (24:05): "Number five, Dick Butkus."
Closing Remarks: This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers an insightful and critical examination of the New York Jets' ongoing struggles, highlighting issues of ownership interference, quarterback performance, and organizational instability. Coupled with humor and engaging banter, the hosts provide a comprehensive overview of the team's challenges while maintaining an entertaining and relatable dialogue for listeners.
