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Dan Le Batard
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Dave Dameshek
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Dave Dameshek
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Dave Dameshek
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Dan Le Batard
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Dave Dameshek
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cody
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Dave Dameshek
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Amin Elhassan
You bet.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I am.
Dave Dameshek
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Mike Ryan
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Dave Dameshek
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Amin Elhassan
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Tony Reali
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Mike Ryan
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Amin Elhassan
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Mike Ryan
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Dave Dameshek
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Mike Ryan
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Dave Dameshek
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to.
Amin Elhassan
The other Dan LeBatard podcast?
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry.
Mike Ryan
I'm not going to apologize for that.
Dave Dameshek
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries or if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys, I've done it. And now here's the Marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
Amin Elhassan
This episode of the Dan Lipatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the Crown is yours.
Dave Dameshek
Dave Dameshek will join us here in moments. Football America is a very good podcast. Quirky, fun, smart. Football America, Mondays and Fridays. But I want to play the sound again. Tony and Mike are on this week.
Dan Le Batard
Is that what you're doing?
Mike Ryan
This episode is especially smart today.
Dan Le Batard
Very intelligent episode.
Dave Dameshek
Okay, so you. You guys are being used by Dan Shek in today's episode of Football America.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, dude. Mid season awards where it's finally time where we can have a reasonable Baker Mayfield MVP discussion.
Dave Dameshek
Before we get to the Hampton Farms winner for nuttiest fan of the week. Can you guys just play again? The sound of Nick Saban. Happy birthday. Because all of this is great, but especially great in the middle of it is the way that Ms. Terry really demands. Hey, you're going to sit up for a second in the middle of our football life and you're going to accept your family's love. You're going to do it very quickly and I'm going to get you to do it with two syllables. I'm going to. I'm just going to. I'm just going to hit you right in the heart with. Sit up. And you're going to spring from that coffin of yours that you've been sitting in all weekend. You're going to spring from it. You're going to enjoy your birthday to you.
Mike Ryan
Happy birthday to you.
Dan Le Batard
Sit up.
Tony Reali
Happy birthday dear Amy Dada.
Mike Ryan
Happy birthday to you. Think about a good wish.
Dave Dameshek
Good one.
Mike Ryan
Make it good.
Dan Le Batard
Make it good.
Mike Ryan
Greece, Italy. Cruise family. Good. More, more, more, more.
Dan Le Batard
Got a good idea of what that wish was.
Amin Elhassan
Her timing was impeccable. Like, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Sit up.
Mike Ryan
Sit up.
Jeremy
Waited for the pause.
Amin Elhassan
Waited for the it directly on target number two. The reason why she has to bark that is because as they're singing and rounding the corner around him, he hasn't moved. He's like, you could hear the exhale come out of him. Like, Jesus, guys.
Dave Dameshek
But it is a little strange, right, to see eternal leader of men, general of toughness, not only being told in a way that is a samurai sword across the face. Sit up. But also referred to as Dada. Like the whole thing.
Roy
They were a little confused on what to call him.
Mike Ryan
There was like a, a lot of like, dad bug, Nick, coach.
Dave Dameshek
I did not hear a coach in there. I did not. There was no coach in there. Damage. As you join us now, do you have any thoughts on our Nick Saban happy birthday video? Do you have any observations?
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Compare and contrast that to. Who's more disinterested? Nick Saban at his birthday celebration. Who's more disinterested in the events in that room? Saban there or Donald Trump looking at the guy laying on the floor.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, my God.
Roy
By the way, in this first scene.
Dave Dameshek
Is that Greg Cody does look like you guys. You guys do understand that at that age, the birthday is not happy for him. He doesn't want to be doing any of that. He wants to be watching the last five minutes of Mahomes against Josh Allen is Tommy Tighe.
Mike Ryan
Fellas, I. I have. I have a lot of different things that I'd like to address with you. The garlic Ro incident, I don't know.
Dave Dameshek
I was told that at Flanagan's a week ago, it was alarming how many garlic rolls you ate and your entire face smelled like bad breath.
Mike Ryan
That's complete nonsense. That's abject. Who and applesauce that I had one garlic roll on my way out the door because I was encouraged to have one. I think it was Chris Cody who was really.
Dave Dameshek
He said you were crushing them. He said you were crushing the garlic rolls. He said you were eating them. They were like a factory line of garlic rolls.
Mike Ryan
Okay, number two issue to address is. So, Dan LeBatard, I hope you had a good time in Los Angeles. You know, maybe we could have crushed some garlic rolls together while you were out here. Maybe on your next visit.
Dave Dameshek
I didn't even know you were in Los Angeles. I didn't know where he was. I didn't know where he faced. I didn't assume it was Los Angeles.
Dan Le Batard
Hanging out with Ham in Pittsburgh.
Mike Ryan
Your diminishment of Angelino sports fans is semi fair. But I disagree that they don't know about baseball. You know about baseball? Yes, Los Angeles Dodgers fans do. I'm fascinated by the idea because I was talking with. With some of the gang down there last week when I was out. People want to. They have to rationalize reasons to hate idyllic places to live like Los Angeles and Miami. And so they conjure these reasons. I could never live there because of hurricanes or earthquakes or whatever else, or because of the governor and all of that kind of stu. Which is the better sports town and which one is more hated and which one's titles does the rest of the sports nation care they'll care less about? I find that subject fascinating. I always say NFL fans in SEC country, it just means less. It's clear that what really matters in your neck of the woods is how the college teams do what happens on Saturday trumps what happens on Sundays, right?
Dave Dameshek
Dave, I'm not kidding you when I tell you that I heard three times while I was there of the 18 inning game it described as overtime. You're not going to tell me that those people knew what they were talking about like three different times I heard what an amazing game last night. It went into overtime.
Amin Elhassan
Very important question, Dan. Were they talking about The Dodgers game or the Doyers game? Because someone who talked about the Doyers game would not say that.
Dave Dameshek
That is correct. The Doyers game would not say overtime.
Mike Ryan
I'm not going to dig my heels in on that. I do want to say to Jeremy and beyond, because we were talking about the series, obviously, as it was. As it was going on a week ago and then I got back to Los Angeles and watched Saturday night. And I guess it speaks to the largesse of pro football in our society at this point that somehow we got to Monday and the Andy Pa has catch was. Was an afterthought that was. I think it will loom 20 years, 50 years from now as one of the iconic plays in sports in this millennium. Do you agree? Am I getting hyperbolic? Am I prisoner of the moment?
Dave Dameshek
Yes, I think it will be for regionally people will remember it. I don't think it's nationally something that people are going to remember.
Mike Ryan
Any baseball fan naturally is going to remember that catch.
Roy
A guy who went one for 976 makes one catch. And it's going to be remembered for a millennium.
Dan Le Batard
That's why.
Mike Ryan
No, I mean, row. There are so many events within. I mean, just start the clock at nine in the ninth inning from that point forward. The whole series ranks in my lifetime is probably one of the three best World Series we've seen. But just from the ninth inning of game seven on and the number of events that happened in it. But you know, as opposed to, you know, Rojas hits the improbable home run. But you put that, you stack that up with, you know, spring up in safe at the place Maseraski.
Dave Dameshek
No, you. You can say there were more moments in just extra innings of that series than most World Series have.
Mike Ryan
But you know, Amin at least will relate to this. I was thinking about it in these terms. You know, home runs are great, but they're garden variety classic moments that live for eternity. But they all stack up against each other and which one was the best. And. And all of that, I think sort of like. Is chili a soup? No, it's something better. It's its own thing. And sort of like Godfather. Every. Every death, every shooting death, every killing in the Godfather stands out because it's got some little weird little quirk. There's a beat that is a little. There's a half a beat of oddity when Luca Braszi puts his hand on the. On the counter at the bar. There's a weird pregnant pause before kill him. And so it goes. I Think that's the PA has thing. It's sort of like the Tyree catch or the Immaculate Reception or things like that that are just. They are by themselves. Andy PA has in the. You understand in the bottom of the ninth with the whole thing on the line crashed into Kike Hernandez. Once again reminder Kike the accent over the E. The most important accent mark going right now. But he just. This guy was going to basket catch it. I don't know if he was going to catch it. I don't think he wasn't going to catch it. He wasn't. And Andy PA has trucks the guy. And you know when you run into another human being at full speed generally speaking it throws off what your assumptions are physically about where things are gonna come to where they're gonna. That he catches that ball and sends it to extries.
Dave Dameshek
It's just.
Mike Ryan
It's just one of the iconic moments I've seen and nobody is talking about it. It's weird.
Amin Elhassan
You know what it is Dave? It's the gun in the bathroom taped to the back of the tank. Which by the way Francis Ford Coppola didn't tell Pacino where it was.
Mike Ryan
So that's why we look for it.
Amin Elhassan
He has that. He's actually looking for it for real because he has. He knows there. He just doesn't know where. And he's doing that and he finally finds it. And Coppola did that on purpose because he wanted an authentic Michael Corleone to be searching for that gun.
Mike Ryan
I love. The best thing in that scene is. Is the. I'm in one of the all time scenes in movie history. Of course but is watch it again as I'm sure we all have watched it 394 times at least. The when when Pacino comes out and he sits down and they're. And they start talking Italian again. They start. They start speaking to each other again and then the voice goes down. A Coppola lowers the Italian voice and the train in the background. The volume on that goes up and up and up and it starts to stir in his brain and that's what drives him to get up and shoot the guy. He's just the best. But yes, that's. That's another quirk. Okay, subject number.
Dave Dameshek
No, hold on a second before you get to subject number two. Yammering Dave Damachek here.
Dan Le Batard
Where was that a flag is when.
Mike Ryan
You handed the mic.
Dave Dameshek
He insists on reviewing movies from the 1970s every time he's too busy eating garlic rolls.
Amin Elhassan
Vampires.
Dave Dameshek
Can we get to for a Second, because you may have heard Amin had an off mic laugh. And I'm used to all manner of narcissism around here. I know what it is Amin was laughing at. A picture was put up of all of us at that Flanagan's. And you will see that in the right hand side, Amin is doing Cash Patel and he's laug at his Cash Patel in the middle of a photograph of all of us. The only thing he's laughing at is looking at his own face.
Amin Elhassan
To be fair, I started laughing at Chris.
Roy
The hand placement's weird.
Amin Elhassan
Chris looks like he's about to eat 70 nuggets in that picture right there. But then I saw myself next to Chris and I said it worked.
Dave Dameshek
Now look, let's go to the other photo. No, you. I. When this photo was put up, you were only looking at you and you were only laughing at you. When the previous photo was put up. Put up that photo. Chris Cody, who says he's never high at work. When the previous show. When the. When the previous photo was put up of Chris Cody. Amin's reaction to that was to say to me and to anybody listening, Holy Chris Cody so high in that photo.
Jeremy
Nah, I'm just having a good time.
Dave Dameshek
Pennsylvania Jones, subject number two, damage. Go ahead. I'm surprised you got that close to his garlic breath.
Mike Ryan
This is an outrageous attack on me, not why I wok up early on a Friday was to be assaulted verbally and otherwise. Now, was Jeremy the one in the. In the suspender? Yeah, that was me.
Amin Elhassan
I might.
Mike Ryan
I might go suspenders the rest of my life.
Amin Elhassan
I don't know.
Dave Dameshek
Maybe it's.
Mike Ryan
Maybe it's time to end the belt.
Dave Dameshek
Jeremy's fashion just inspired you to your life.
Mike Ryan
I'm a fan forward guy. I'm kind of of the age. There are certain fashion choices one makes as you transcend the wrong side of your fashion forward.
Dave Dameshek
When only one word will do. Your four words. When one word will do.
Mike Ryan
I don't even know what that means, but I'm gonna move on to this.
Dave Dameshek
Hold on. Jeremy's got something he wants to say here. Hold on.
Mike Ryan
No, Chris has something.
Jeremy
Chris, Jeremy looks super stoned in these photos.
Amin Elhassan
I won't let this slide.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, get out of here.
Chris Cody
Let's go to the flexion.
Mike Ryan
Not high on life, baby.
Dave Dameshek
You were saying, Dave?
Mike Ryan
Well, the other big observation from that party and from my experience in Miami was that juju is officially too jacked to portray Colin Kaepernick, which I did not anticipate when I got out here, but to the color gold, which is one of the colors that the 49ers wear. I am fascinated by the subject of what is. What counts as being gold. Yellow. Now, I know 10 Daytoni doesn't like it when I go Pittsburgh, but, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers colors are properly black and gold. Wiz Khalifa may have said black and yellow, but properly it is black and gold. That color is considered gold. Alongside the New Orleans Saints and the rambling wreck of Georgia Tech. Hell of an engineer.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Hey, I mean, do you remember. You're probably a little too young, but Dan does remember that was one of the great college basketball teams, Bobby Kremens and all of that in the middle.
Amin Elhassan
I went to school there because of that.
Dave Dameshek
That's the reason he went.
Mike Ryan
Is that right?
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, I went there because it was a. Because I'm like, oh, there's a lot of basketball there. And I thought there were no winters in Atlanta. That's the other reason.
Mike Ryan
Isn't it sad that team didn't. I felt like that team deserved something better for the talent.
Dave Dameshek
Did it have two Mark Price, two pros or three pros on that team?
Dan Le Batard
Was Geiger on that team?
Amin Elhassan
I don't.
Mike Ryan
Tom Hammond made it. Right?
Amin Elhassan
Hammond made it. Kenny.
Mike Ryan
Mark Price.
Amin Elhassan
John Salley was earlier. Mark Price was earlier.
Mike Ryan
No, Those guys are 85, 86. Before Kenny Anderson, Right? Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
I thought you.
Dave Dameshek
Anderson is the reason he went to school there.
Amin Elhassan
Letting him Lethal Weapon 3, right? It was. It was Kenny Anderson, Dennis Scott and Forest.
Dave Dameshek
Right.
Mike Ryan
See, I am older than you and I just proved it. Yeah. John, Sally and. And Bruce Dalrymple and. And Dwayne Farrell and those.
Dave Dameshek
Okay, I'm not doing this with you every time you.
Mike Ryan
Come on.
Dave Dameshek
Damoshek. Nostalgia through the 70s.
Roy
Where was that when you handed him the mic?
Dave Dameshek
Let me.
Dan Le Batard
Let me ask about Matt Geiger's house. Didn't you once.
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Dave Dameshek
Don LeBatard Football Football Football.
Chris Cody
Football Football Football St.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the St.
Dave Dameshek
The Pat. The Pittsburgh Steelers. I know they are proudly black and gold but that color is yellow. That color is yellow. I know they Identify as black and gold, but that color is yellow. So you said you're fascinated by the differences between gold and yellow. What are the differences between gold and yellow?
Mike Ryan
I'm not here to articulate the distinction. I'm fascinated by the fact that we called those two things, which are clearly not not the same thing. We call them the same thing, which is gold.
Dave Dameshek
The terrible towel is clearly yellow.
Mike Ryan
Again, this feels like an attack on the roots.
Dave Dameshek
25 garlic rolls. I saw you.
Amin Elhassan
Why is he dressed like a ghostbuster?
Mike Ryan
Who's dressed like a Ghostbuster? Like a Ghostbuster. This is a Ghostbusters outfit.
Dave Dameshek
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Like I'm wearing black and I, I literally put this shirt on and I forgot that I did. I literally put this shot shirt on for you guys because you were talking about the color gold and I think that it's beige is close enough. They are the past Georgia Tech gold.
Dave Dameshek
That's brown.
Mike Ryan
It's brown.
Dan Le Batard
It's also the same shirt that you wore during our taping of Football America.
Mike Ryan
I was trying for continuity. And by the way, I have to say, spoiler alert. We did already have our conversation and I think it was a grand one. I enjoyed it immensely. We did the mid season awards for, for this NFL season. We discussed things like what guys keep. Every week you got Mike being responsible for this, perpetuating who's an mvp. Three weeks in, two weeks in, seven weeks in. Okay, now we've transcended the midway point in the season. We can start having this conversation. But which guys keep getting mentioned as MVP candidates even though they have zero chance of ever win the mvp? Dan, any thoughts on that?
Dave Dameshek
I hate this. Every year I hate that we switch from week to week. Who's the MVP candidate? I don't like it as the, as an entertainment option generally.
Amin Elhassan
Dave, this is why I invented the MVP conversation bar. Because there are people who are in that conversation, but they have no chance of actually winning it. See, to gain entrance into the MVP conversation bar, you have to have someone say he should be in the MVP conversation. Are you going to vote MVP for him? Well, no. Well, now he's standing in the side. Now the guy in the middle of the bar holding court, drinking hand. Everyone just enwrapped with every word he says. That guy, that's the guy who has an actual chance of winning mvp.
Dave Dameshek
I don't mean to undo or undercut what it is you guys are doing. I'm sure you will make it entertaining. But just as a tether, whenever I look up at television and invariably they have to make two hours of sports television, but they only have 30 minutes of sports news. They end up up in one of these graphics that says who's on the hot seat. More pressure on somebody. Should somebody be in the MVP conversation when it's all just who are the nine best players in the league?
Mike Ryan
How do you react, Coach, to. A lot of people out there are saying like, are you one of those people saying it? Because you're awfully passive in the way you're setting this question up. You, you don't think that though, right? Reporter asking the coach that question.
Dave Dameshek
You see how you look like a Ghostbuster in this photo, right? It's the same. You do. It's the same shirt. It looks like the same shir. The same collar. It looks like the same look from Bill Murray and Ghostbuster.
Mike Ryan
Keep it up. Keep it up. I'm going to lose the shirt and then you're all going to be sorry for that. Then I'm going to. Then it's not going to be just Mac Jones with.
Dave Dameshek
Don't threaten us with a good.
Mike Ryan
With the weird nipples. Hey. Yeah. I mean, I love it. And as we discuss on football America, my favorite is this, is this thing the cheat that the voters have provided themselves the fallback of like mvp?
Chris Cody
No, no.
Mike Ryan
Offensive player of the year. Come on. Like, please, please keep them, keep them straight here. Like what. Can you articulate the difference? It's kind of like Steelers gold versus Georgia Tech gold. What. Can you, can you tell me the difference there?
Dave Dameshek
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Offensive player of the year and the other one's the mvp. What. How are you distinguishing between the two?
Dave Dameshek
Sam Darnold is different this year than last year.
Amin Elhassan
Right?
Dave Dameshek
The Sam Darnold who lost the last two games of the season and spent a bunch of. And winning one score games. This is not the same offense, not the same team, not the same quarterback.
Dan Le Batard
Correct.
Mike Ryan
I agree. And then you have to wonder, you know, koc, they, they offered Sam Darnold in Minnesota, but they didn't offer him the, the full amount as it were, the way Seattle did. And so he left and they turned the page to JJ McCarthy as you would have expected them to given the way Darnold finished the season. He was out there to be had by everybody. I wonder if. I know we talk about it a lot, but koc, in a world of. Of alleged QB whispers, there are in fact maybe three or five of them. And I think KOC is, is the genuine article with that. I mean, did he, did he sprinkle fairy dust On Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones, all things kind of run back through Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Andy Reid and now Koc. It seems good quarterbacks who pass through those guys end up better for the experience. And even though they, Darnold and Jones are away from him, they did spend time with him last year. And look at them thriving.
Dave Dameshek
Do you believe in Seattle and Denver? Are those teams that you're saying to yourself, I do not see them knocked out in the playoffs easily. It would be a surprise or not a surprise if Sam Darnold and Bo Nix are knocked out early.
Mike Ryan
Seattle much more so than than Denver. Obviously that offense ain't great. But I also buy that Sean Payton, who probably has lost a little of the luster of being one of those QB whisperers. I do think that the way they're constructed, dominant defensively, can bang you running, running the ball. And is Bo Nix going to be a liability in January? I guess that's the question at this point. Otherwise, yeah, I buy that team. I think it's a big one. Talk about MVPs. Guys who will get floated as MVPs who have no chance of winning it. Bo Nix, I mean if that team wins the wins the AFC west, that alone makes the case. Damage.
Dave Dameshek
Take that. Damage.
Mike Ryan
I think it's an absurd thing to say. I'm talking about results. Dave, I like you.
Dan Le Batard
Don't use yourself.
Dave Dameshek
Do this.
Mike Ryan
Dave, Mike did this to himself earlier.
Roy
Don't do this.
Dave Dameshek
Take those words out of your mouth.
Mike Ryan
I am not. I am saying what the narrative will be if they win the division. Things get fuzzy. The individual is. Many are saying now, Dan, a lot of people are talking about Bo Nix is an mvp.
Dave Dameshek
Nobody's talking about that.
Mike Ryan
No, I know, but. But you know who they're not talking about also more legitimately in the same division is. Is what if the Chargers actually win the division? Doesn't Justin Herbert kind of have to be a top two or three candidate? Well, James, I don't hear him.
Dave Dameshek
One of the things happening with Herbert that is really interesting to me is because he is not one substantively in the playoffs. Because some people want to question what looks like the prototype ability of a quarterback. People are not taking into account how hard it is to do what he has done given how often he's getting hit. He is getting hit more than any quarterback in the league. He gets hit all the time. The pressure is ridiculous and he'll probably get knocked out at some point of a game or of the playoffs. But that guy is Playing extraordinarily well. When the moment that Alt goes out on that team, all of a sudden there are seven defenders on him. Every time Alt goes out out. And he's always going out.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And you think about why Jim Harbaugh succeeds. Everywhere he's gone. He immediately his. On the first day in the office, he gets to work on the offensive line and becoming physical. And so obviously they leaned into that spot in the draft and otherwise. And now both of their dominant, potentially dominant tackles, or at least high pedigree guys are out now. And here come the Pittsburgh Steelers, who looked like junk defensively, inexplicably, almost, for a giant swath of the first half of the season, is everything right now because they turned the Colts over six times to the Steelers, zero turnovers. This is a fascinating matchup on Sunday Night Football. If he, if Herbert, I mean, that'll be another chip, obviously. But this, this is a huge spot. And I agree with you completely, Dan. It's. I would take the Chargers blindly except for the fact, man, they don't have their tackles. And here comes TJ Watt, who's maybe I talk about diminished maybe a little bit, but Alex Highsmith and the rest of that pass rush. It's going to be interesting to see how this breaks for both those teams and what it means going forward for these two teams. But the game of the day on Sunday, in terms of like, if you're somebody who likes to. To slow down on the freeway and look at car wrecks, is there anything funnier going right now than the Cleveland Browns going in to play the New York Jets? And I dare say this may be the saddest note of the entire football season. The Jets. There's a pro football team hosting the Cleveland Browns, and that home team is an underdog to the Browns. Can you imagine? Can you imagine the disgrace. Fold it up, Woody. Fold it up.
Dave Dameshek
It's over. Put it on the poll, please. At Le Batard show is Brown's jets the saddest note of this season. Long musical. Did you guys cover on Football America any or all of the transactions? Because I think that the one that people are talking about most is the Colts saying, okay, we're going to line up to try and compete with the Chiefs in the afc. We're going to get somebody who can cover. And the thing you just don't see very much anymore. Two first rounders and a surprise in the middle of the season. Nobody had the jets trading Sauce Gardener. Sauce Gardener's numbers have gone down for a couple of seasons. But I thought that's because their pass rush has gone down. That that's the reason that that has happened. I think one of the reasons certain is so good is because that Denver pass rush is amazing with four. What. What did you have to say about the trades and which one did you find most interesting?
Mike Ryan
Well, I think you just hit it with Sas Gardner is. Is. Is the one and obviously it means a great deal to the Colts. It also is interesting more vainly and more. More having to do with a conversation I had one week ago today with. With Pablo Tori and we talked about the news breakers. Fascinating. How. How did the news breakers we. How did the SAS Gardner trade happen without any of the news breakers? The insiders who have their ear to the ground and they have their 17 phones so they can't enjoy dinner and they can't have a normal life. None of them saw the sauce Gardner trade happening. Oh, stunner. Stunner. Eh. But yeah, I think that. What are you, you know, what do you.
Dave Dameshek
What are you inferring there? Yes, the inside.
Mike Ryan
Those people are not journey know. I mean it's, it's the pap of. I hate the grift of that these people have some information that, that they don't actually have. What evidence is there if you're an insider, if you're, if you're somebody who is talking to both sides, shouldn't you periodically be able to in advance of the actual news event, tell us? I'm hearing that this is.
Dave Dameshek
What are you alleging?
Mike Ryan
What are you alleged that those people are not. Not practicing actual journalism. Pablo Torre is practicing investigative journalism. Yeah, I'm a goon. I'm not doing either. I'm cracking wise. I'm not. But. But so I'm not taking slaps at anybody. And because I'm doing better journalism, I'm not doing any journalism whatsoever. I'm talking Huey and applesauce now again.
Dave Dameshek
With the Huey and Applesauce reference.
Mike Ryan
Twice or three times.
Dave Dameshek
But why applesauce? Why can't. Why is it. Why isn't it's sufficient with just who. Why are you adding a side of applesauce to that?
Mike Ryan
Dan, when you have 10 minutes and you want to have a good laugh, open up the thesaurus and look up the word nonsense. A good. A good thought, real good thick thesaurus. The source it is. The synonyms for nonsense are the best in the world. And who in Applesauce are two of my favorites. And it's a tough list to choose from. I think that it's weird and I've been asking. I was on with Zaz on his show earlier this week and I talked to 10 Day Tony and to Mike about this as well as AFC east observers and people who obsess over it. I feel sad for Dolphins fans legitimately that you guys saw Tom Brady leave. So now here's your opportunity. By the way, he tried to buy the Dolphins and failed and install himself as quarterback. We've talked about that. And then in the interim you think you got the guy guy. Not you, the guys in fact in McDaniel and Tua. Oh wow. It's a whole new era for us here in the AFC east. And then that flames out. And on the other side, the Patriots have solved the quarterback position once again. So I feel sad for you there. The two have nots in the division, the Dolphins and the Jets.
Dave Dameshek
Who.
Mike Ryan
What? Which is more appealing to you? Which seat would you rather sit in? That is a fan because the jets just gave away two guys, guys who by position are essential in pro football in the 21st century. Obviously interior pass rusher and shut down corner or would be shut down corner. And now they just. So they get two first round picks basically to replace those guys. They just at a cheaper rate is basically the, the bid that they're making here. Or the Dolphins who are kind of just still what they were before the trade deadline minus one guy who was a, who was a nice player for he injury prone though he was.
Dave Dameshek
Was.
Mike Ryan
Which is the better spot to be in?
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Dave Dameshek
Don Lerd While there's nothing official and conversations are still ongoing, was that a fake chef dirt?
Mike Ryan
Because it was pretty good. It was excellent. I feel like there's legs.
Dave Dameshek
Yeah, Tried at the beginning. And then I lost confidence in it.
Mike Ryan
Good. It was good.
Chris Cody
You got this.
Dave Dameshek
Nothing official. Conversations are still ongoing. St. It is trending towards Nick Sirianni remaining the head coach of the Eagles.
Chris Cody
Eagles.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Amin Elhassan
Dave, I have an update for you. I went to the thickest, heaviest thesaurus I could find, thesaurus.com and I put in nonsense. And under, they've got three categories. Strongest matches, strong matches, and weak matches. Under strong matches, I did. I found Huy. I did not find applesauce anywhere.
Dave Dameshek
I got to be honest. I'm a little surprised that he will never in his life go again with another segment that has a player named Sauce traded in it and he went who? He and Applesauce twice without doing anything with Sauce.
Amin Elhassan
I didn't play. Didn't play on words at all.
Dave Dameshek
Didn't do anything. He'll never have that opportunity again.
Mike Ryan
Well, you just cleaned it up for me. We'll fix this in post, right? Somebody. Somebody can edit this all together so it sounds like I got it.
Dave Dameshek
This is live.
Amin Elhassan
Clap trap is one of the ones on the list that I kind of. I like that one. Clap trap.
Mike Ryan
Try to work that twaddle. I are two of them. Yeah, try. Oh, yeah. That's a good one, too.
Dave Dameshek
Have you guys ever heard the expression hui and applesauce? That's not.
Mike Ryan
No, I googled it. And the first thing that comes up is, yeah, there's a tweet of his from 2016 saying Huey and applesauce. There's fandom.com like Greg Cody in that way is regularly used by Dave Damascher.
Dan Le Batard
Like dancing swords a little bit.
Dave Dameshek
Get him out of here. It's football America. It's Monday and Friday. Thank you, Dave. Good talking to you. We are done with you now. Enough of that.
Amin Elhassan
Go bust some ghosts.
Dave Dameshek
Rambling rack football America. I don't know the difference between gold and yellow. I don't know why the Steelers are. The Steelers are. Look, I'm looking at the uniform.
Amin Elhassan
It's yellow.
Dave Dameshek
That's yellow. That's not. That's not gold. I don't. Gold. I think of gold as being a harder kind of yellow. Yellow is brighter than gold.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Dave Dameshek
I don't know what distinctions you guys are making between yellow and gold, but yellow is brighter than gold.
Dan Le Batard
Let him gaslight you into this. Wiz Khalifa had it right. It's yellow.
Amin Elhassan
Black and gold wouldn't have been a good song. Black and gold. Black and gold.
Mike Ryan
No Pittsburgh Pirates.
Amin Elhassan
Also black and Yellow. Pittsburgh Penguins black and white.
Dan Le Batard
We've covered this extensively. The entire city has the same color.
Chris Cody
The Penguins started as blue, but they switched to black and yellow.
Dave Dameshek
Really?
Chris Cody
Yes. Yes.
Roy
Come on, play with us here.
Dave Dameshek
Roy, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Did you know that the Pittsburgh Penguins started with blue instead of black and yellow and put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Could you articulate to your friends the difference between gold and yellow? Who is our Hampton Farms nuttiest fan winner? After doing the nominees, I don't know who the nominees were. You're having a lot of trouble with that costume. You're sweat. How swampy is it in that costume? Chris Cody.
Jeremy
Call me Dave Dampa. She check.
Mike Ryan
Oh, Dan.
Jeremy
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Dave Dameshek
It's been unpleasant as a costume, correct?
Jeremy
I'm telling you, way worse than the wings.
Amin Elhassan
Really?
Mike Ryan
The Nuggets.
Jeremy
Not worse.
Dan Le Batard
Is it tougher than my cowboy costume? Because that was too. I don't want to do that again.
Jeremy
This stinks.
Dave Dameshek
Let me. Let me ask you guys a question from all of last. Last weekend's football. There was one story that caught my eye more than any of the others, and it was the story that Brian Schottenheimer, the coach of the Cowboys. I'm guessing you guys didn't see this, but this seems like it would be a pretty major inconvenience. Brian Schottenheimer, the night before the game against the Cardinals that they lost, was thinking about leaving his house entirely and staying somewhere else because an owl had gotten into his house and he couldn't get rid of the owl, didn't know how to get rid of the owl and was confused as to what do I do now. There is an owl in my house. And so I'm asking all of you, in practical terms, a put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Have you ever had an owl in your house and be outside of calling pet control. What would you guys do if the owl, a notoriously dumb bird, even though it has the reputation for being wise, a big bird, a bird of prey that might do something to your pets. I don't know whether an owl would like to have a small dog or a small cat that it would like to get into a fight with. What would any of you do if there were an owl in your house? How the hell do you get an owl out of your house.
Mike Ryan
Sorry, who are we talking about?
Chris Cody
About Brian Scheimer.
Dave Dameshek
Who?
Amin Elhassan
Who?
Dave Dameshek
Don't. Don't who?
Chris Cody
I should just cut my knees off, man.
Dave Dameshek
You should get out, Roy. For not. For asking. For answering that question. Roy, you need to get out and take Jeremy with you, okay?
Chris Cody
Come on, Jeremy.
Dave Dameshek
A who joke off of A.
Dan Le Batard
By the way, good luck with Chris.
Chris Cody
Doing this job right now.
Dave Dameshek
Hey, what are you doing?
Amin Elhassan
You're sabotaging the show.
Dan Le Batard
I don't have a. I don't have an owl in my house, but I have an owl outside my house that lives in my fishtail palms. And it was a terrifying experience when I discovered this because it was dusk and I was just chilling on my phone outside watching my dog and this pterodactyl flies into my fishtail palms. I, like, drop my phone. I hit the ground. I didn't know what was going on. And then, like, I was looking for it. And a couple days later, it was just camouflaged in my fishtail palms, staring right at me. I'm afraid of birds because I was attacked when I was younger by a bird. I didn't call animal control. I don't exactly know what to do. Then I had another raptor, another bird of prey, chasing a smaller bird directly into my fishtail palms as well. Crash, thundering it's like when they lowered that calf into the raptor pit in Jurassic Park. I don't like this one bit, Dan.
Amin Elhassan
So to be clear, the bird wasn't terrified of your terrifying dog.
Dan Le Batard
My terrifying dog is a whippin and, you know, mid size.
Amin Elhassan
I'm just saying it looks terrifying.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know if I. The bird was bigger. I know you think my dog is ugly.
Amin Elhassan
I think it's frightening. It looks like an alien. If I were a bird. What the hell is that?
Dave Dameshek
Well, I'd like Mike to explain again what he did when first seeing this bird, because it sound like it's. It sounded like you dropped your phone and then combat rolled. It's like you hit the ground.
Mike Ryan
You got low, you gotta get low.
Jeremy
Do we have security footage of this?
Dan Le Batard
When someone buzzes the tower, Dan, you go low. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Who was it?
Roy
Was it doggy that said stay low?
Dan Le Batard
You gotta stay low? Oh, that's exactly what I was doing. I don't know if another one's coming.
Mike Ryan
Who is he telling the state?
Dan Le Batard
I don't know what's happening right now.
Amin Elhassan
Tom Brady's dad, originally.
Chris Cody
I'll get it.
Amin Elhassan
But he. But he did it. He did it again this week. We played the sound of him talking about. You saw this. He talked about the Dodgers play by play guy. And he was really upset that he hosted the championship parade. And so he told him, hey, because you're the national voice, you do the Fox games. Whatever, whatever. You got to stay low. They should have. The Dodgers should have told him stay low for the. Until the heat goes over or whatever.
Dave Dameshek
We are going to sit here and stare at Chris Cody until he figures out how to find the sound of Mad Dog telling Tom Brady's dad to stop doing interviews and to just stay low as a personality. We're going to just keep watching a table. Terrified Chris Cody damp. Dave Damper Jack, try to figure out how to work the console to explain.
Amin Elhassan
The people who are listening aren't watching. Chris is moving his head rapidly up and down. The reason why is because he can only see through the mouth hole. So he has to look down to the keyboard and then look up.
Dave Dameshek
But also the way that he's moving suggests even though he can't see his face and complete and total panic now he's got to find. Use his paw in order to hit the right button. He's got to take off his paw and hit the right button. Come on, you can do it, Chris. I feel. I. I feel the segment's ending and you're almost there. Give us the sound we need of Mad Dog criticizing Tom Brady's dad in.
Dan Le Batard
A way that under a costume.
Dave Dameshek
We'll just wait for you.
Tony Reali
Shut the hell up. Shut up. Keep your mouth shut. Your son got nailed. Keep your freaking mouth shut. Frame gate. My. Keep your. Shut up. Stay low. Shut the hell up. Frame gate.
Mike Ryan
You mean.
Tony Reali
Are you kidding me? Come on. A guy cheated, folks. Let's be honest. Frag. I listen to Tom Brady's old man now, who, you know, has lived in the bubble, you know, and has lived under the scenario where his kids been a phenomenal player all this time, and now he's trying to make excuse. Now he's trying to disparage the guy who spent 246 pages right about it. Shut up. Put that guy on. See if he's got the guts to talk to. Somebody's gonna ask him a tough question. Go ahead. Better yet, put his shirt on. Let's see what he has to say. Put this shirt on. Don't hide. USA Today. Come on. Come on, talk shows. Come on now. Come on, right now. Say that to me. Say that to anybody. Say it to somebody.
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Date: November 7, 2025
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the full assortment of co-hosts deliver their signature blend of irreverent sports talk, pop culture riffs, and playful in-fighting. This “Big Suey” installment leans heavily into sports debates—MVP discourse, sports town rivalries, and NFL narratives—while unspooling into digressive fun about garlic rolls, mysterious birds, fashion choices, and the eternal debate over the difference between yellow and gold. Regular guest Dave Dameshek (aka "Pennsylvania Jones") is prominently featured for his wit and sideshows.
Timestamps: 02:28–09:31; 20:25–27:52
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Playfully combative, heavily layered with in-jokes, self-referential banter, deep dives into esoteric sports lore, and a refusal to take sports or themselves too seriously. Lots of running gags and sharp-witted improvisation, underlining why this show remains a cult favorite among sports fans who want more than just the headlines.
This episode delivers all the hallmarks of a classic Le Batard Big Suey: passionate and silly debates on sports minutiae, sports culture collisions (yellow vs. gold), bemused analysis of both sports news and their own group dynamic, and a willingness to follow weird threads—whether about garlic roll consumption, avian home invasions, or the hidden brilliance of “Hooey & Applesauce.” Come for the midseason MVP takes, stay for the wild tales, inside jokes, and moments that are equal parts sports roundtable and absurdist comedy.