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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Christopher
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to.
Dan Le Batard
The other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.
Christopher
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Dan Le Batard
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to.
Christopher
Nowhere, Fat Face and the habitual liar.
Dan Le Batard
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
Christopher
We are not great around here about consequences, about accountability. So people say things and then they just sort of turn to dust. But Greg Cody did say when the Seattle Mariners were up 2 0, that if they didn't make it to the World Series, he would walk to Seattle. And we are going to make him do that now because we don't want to kill him. We're not going to make him do it from here, but we are going to make him do it from the closest city to Seattle that has a mayor. That is how we have decided this. So it's a four hour walk and we're going to make him do this. And now I have nine olives in front of me and he said he could do the show with nine olives.
Greg Cody
Those are jumbos Though.
Christopher
What do you mean?
Dan Le Batard
Roy's were bigger, actually.
Christopher
What do you mean? They're jumbos. They're just olives.
Greg Cody
There's no pits, right?
Christopher
I don't know. You said you. Go ahead and. Let's see. Let's.
Dan Le Batard
We will get you, say, nine in one bite.
Christopher
Well, you're not supposed to bite.
Dan Le Batard
You're putting them all in.
Christopher
You're putting all nine of them in your mouth. Does it have a pit at the same time?
Greg Cody
That's good.
Christopher
All right, so go ahead and put all nine of them in your mouth. I will get your analysis and then.
Greg Cody
I can eat them right away.
Christopher
No, you have to put them first. You said you can have them easily in your mouth. You said we wouldn't even notice if they were in your mouth. That's what you said.
Dan Le Batard
So go ahead, please.
Stugotz
God, that would be great. Content.
Dan Le Batard
All right, that's. That's full. You can admit. You can take the L. You don't need to choke. Take the L. That's good. Your mouth is too full. You can't get all nine in. He's not even halfway there yet for the audio audience. He has about six in his mouth and he's clearly at capacity. Go ahead. He's much less than 6.
Greg Cody
Much bigger than I thought they'd be. Oh, they're different, the L's. I had mine that big. I mean, these are this big. These are like the size of eggs.
Christopher
You're not supposed to chew them. They're not the size of eggs. Unless you're talking about, like, tiny little goose eggs or snails.
Dan Le Batard
That has to be too much. Admit that's too much salt even for you. You know what they're the size of? Olives.
Greg Cody
No, these are big. I feel like I'm eating a University of Miami football uniform. They're good, though.
Dan Le Batard
I'm getting nauseous looking this.
Christopher
Put. Put all of them. Put all of the remainder. Put. Put. Put all of the remainder of the olives in your mouth. And then promote this week's Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody with the remainder of those trying to kill people. The 5 of those in your mouth. Okay, there's one that you couldn't get, but go ahead and give us. Tell us what's on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.
Greg Cody
It's epic. Younger son Michael joined us.
Dan Le Batard
Younger son Michael.
Greg Cody
Well, Halloween edition of Greg doesn't know movies. Plus, Christopher and I get into a huge rappy kacking argument over the Dolphins win yesterday. We almost come to blows on the air.
Dan Le Batard
My dad has the Crazy take of when the Dolphins win bad. I mean when they lose bad. When they win good.
Greg Cody
Look, I don't believe in tanking. This guy thinks tanking is easy. He would have wanted them to go to 1 and 16. Just eat the olives, you know, I can tell you what's going to happen. They are, they're going to finish like 7 and 9. They're going to have a nice second half to the season.
Dan Le Batard
They won't play the last game.
Greg Cody
They're going to get a, well, whatever. They're going to have a mid round draft pick. You know, people like Christopher, they see a victory not as a good thing, but as, oh, we just sank another five spots in the first round order. Who cares? Make a good pick at 16. There's a good player at 16. How about you identify him? Draft him.
Christopher
I will.
Greg Cody
Damn good.
Stugotz
So gross.
Christopher
I will get to the Brian Kelly story in a second. But I just wanted to tell you it's not just that Kirk Cousins is making $45 million a year. Also has a no trade clause.
Dan Le Batard
No trade clause on Kirk Cousins, which is more offensive. Cousins making that where Brian Kelly gets $58 million to go away.
Christopher
So what is the actual numbers at 53, 54 or 58? I've heard it argued about, but this is the second time this season I asked the question when James Franklin was fired. I said how many coaches can be fired in college football? And it will break into your Sunday afternoon professional NFL viewing the news. And Brian Kelly is another one. Now that when those people started meeting the important decision makers at LS, he's 34 and 14 at LSU. I don't know what LSU expected to be, but 34 and 14 is unacceptable to them because they've lost three of their last four games in the SEC. And the last one that you were at and Lucy was at was particularly embarrassing because now Mike Elko is better than you. Comes into your house with a 7 and O team and he's now 8. No, he empties your stadium at night when Death Valley is supposed to be scary at night. And it's empty late in that game because everyone has left.
Dan Le Batard
They were so overwhelmed the whole game. Like even at halftime when LSU was ahead 18 to 14, they 11 points came directly from mistakes from Texas A and M. Like A and M dominated the first half as well. The score wasn't indicative. Then the second half was super embarrassing. And like usual in this spot you get the Brian Kelly clips where it's everyone else's fault. He's yelling at everyone else. There's this one clip where after a big punt return by Texas A and M Brian Kelly, you can read his lips. He tells the, the, the, the special teams coach, this is going to cost you your effing job. Can you imagine your coach tells you that during the game, this is going to cost you your effing job. Like how does that help anyone in the middle of the game to threaten another coach with his job?
Christopher
So Brian Kelly gets let go and I think, think I'm still allowed to be surprised by that mid season, am I? Not even with a what I thought was a $53 million buyout. I don't know if it's 53 or 58 million. But now to make him go away when you stole him from Notre Dame like that was, that was a sound heard around sports. Notre Dame just got its coach stolen.
Dan Le Batard
It came out of nowhere.
Christopher
Right by an SEC team that is telling you it's announcing to the world we're serious about football. And, and four years later, because people.
Stugotz
Weren'T clear on that before.
Christopher
After four years and going 34 and 14, the standard at LSU is nope. We win championships with Ed Orgeron, we win champions championships with Les Miles. We are the school that started Nick Saban. 34 and 14 is not good enough.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah. All three of the previous coaches that you mentioned all won national championships and Brian Kelly can never beat the good team. So yeah, like 34 and 14. Okay, but that, that's not the standard of that school.
Stugotz
Yeah, I mean there is perspective. Like, wait, what are we doing to a coach that wins you 10 games basically every year? But this felt like a bad fit from the jump. This was odd. It was a strange hiring. He has that weird appearance at the basketball game where he talks about his family and it's just weird vibes the entire time. And angry. No accountability, always someone else's fault. Now that has always been Brian Kelly. But success usually follows him and this wasn't the level of success that they had there. And credit to LSU for realizing there is no evidence here that he is the guy to turn it around. And if you're one of these other schools that's kind of like, what do we do? A Wisconsin or an fsu? It's like, are we in, are we out? You guys are seeing you're like the seventh, eighth best jobs available Now, I.
Dan Le Batard
Do wonder for schools like that. You mentioned Wisconsin, you mentioned fsu with all these other schools with the job openings. Penn State, Florida, lsu.
Stugotz
Now crazy.
Dan Le Batard
I wonder though if those Schools like, yeah, we don't like our coach, but this is not the year to fire him because there are other jobs that are going to come before, like FSU may have to keep Norvell. Wisconsin may have to keep Luke Fickle, even if they don't want. Because, yeah, we're not going to be able to get anyone this year.
Christopher
Let's close the Brian Kelly file then at Notre Dame or, I'm sorry, at lsu, because all I remember is the funny things, the awkward things, the things that were a note off. So let's first play the sound that Mike Ryan just mentioned about him showing up in LSU all of a sudden with a Cajun accent.
Dan Le Batard
It's a great night to be a Tiger. I'm here with my family and we are so excited to be in the great state of Louisiana, but more importantly, to be with you great fans.
Greg Cody
What a fraud.
Dan Le Batard
My family.
Stugotz
So great not to be a Tiger.
Greg Cody
But the fact that he's a fraud doesn't dismiss the fact that the impatience in college football right now is absolutely ridiculous. The buyout total of coaches prematurely fired is over 200 million now. Over 200 million and rising. I think it's bad for the sport. I think it's ridiculous. Have a little patience. I mean, you got a. You got a guy who's got a career, great record. Give him a chance.
Stugotz
Did you hear Nick Saban and Kirk Herbstreak go on about this at College gameday?
Greg Cody
No, sir.
Stugotz
It was actually Saban did the predictable thing, but he did provide a little bit of color. They debated whether or not these boosters that give so much money to these programs should have so much influence on the direction of the programs. And maybe some of these guys are firing coaches a little too soon. Yes, they should. It's like an owner in the pros. This is a pro sport.
Dan Le Batard
Like the people who have the money.
Stugotz
That are helping you get the kids have influence. That's how it works. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
Dan Le Batard
Should the person who pays for everything have a say?
Christopher
Yeah.
Stugotz
I love how coaches and legacy media people in college football are like, wait a second, that's going too far.
Dan Le Batard
What?
Stugotz
Money has power. Let me clutch my pearls. What? Just take a look at the White House. Wait a second.
Greg Cody
What?
Christopher
Why is it bad for the sport, Greg?
Greg Cody
It's just there's an upheaval in the sport right now that just doesn't seem fair to me. I don't mind coaching changes in mid season, but does your coach deserve it?
Dan Le Batard
Well, which one of these firings. These high profile firings, do you think were unfair?
Greg Cody
I think Penn State fired Franklin prematurely.
Dan Le Batard
It's pretty, pretty long resume of not being able to win a big game.
Greg Cody
He was in the championship game last year.
Stugotz
Pretty soon, like, there were like four years of conversations. Is it time to get rid of James Franklin? Like, they showed astonishing patience.
Dan Le Batard
I was there for 10 years.
Christopher
What is when I say one of the most amazing stats in sports is that the Pittsburgh Steelers have only had three coaches. What is the average lifespan? I don't know the answer to the question I'm asking, but the average lifespan for an NFL coach. Because what this is is merely the professionalization of this sport. I don't think it's bad for this sport for it to go professional. I think college football was more interesting this weekend and many weekends than pro football is. College football has done nothing but grow. The things that happen around college football been very good for college football. Now it's not good for amateurism or the illusion of amateurism, but we've buried that day. It's professional sports now, and these coaches are being treated like NFL coaches, most of whom I would guess don't get four years. Now, in the pros, though, 34 and 14 doesn't get you fired.
Dan Le Batard
No. You're like the best. Oh, of course.
Greg Cody
Right.
Dan Le Batard
Between three and a half and four years appears to be the average NFL 69 games.
Greg Cody
And now, by the way, Mike Tomlin's under a little bit of pressure in Pittsburgh. So no, no coach is immune from this. But I think it's accelerated and exaggerated in college football. And I look at it from a personal standpoint, did James Franklin deserve to be fired? Now you can argue yes, yes. You might be in the majority, but I would argue no. I think when you did what he did last season, overall, a very good year, and you're a few games into the next season and you're already pulling the trigger on getting rid of this guy. I think that's premature.
Stugotz
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Greg Cody
Oh me.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stu guts. Well, I mean, what hurt James Franklin? You're right that he did win playoff games last year. Won two playoff games, matter of fact. But those two playoff games they won. What hurt him was it was SMU and it was Boise State. Like, if you're playing a, if you're. If at least one of those, once it gets a power forward, I understand SMU's power four. Okay, so you get what I'm saying. But if one of them were a higher profile team, maybe the conversation's a little bit different.
Greg Cody
Well, he's playing who he's scheduled to.
Christopher
Play, but it's not. I would do this math. Put this on the poll as well. Juju at lebatard show. Does it matter more that you lost to Northwestern than it does that you won two playoff games against SMU and Boise State?
Dan Le Batard
I think it does.
Christopher
Well, clearly it did to Penn State because what got him fired was the last loss. I mean, it was cumulative. But what's happened to both these coaches? Just so that you understand, I know James Franklin's record was. I'm losing it now. It was something like 34 and 8 or something. But it's the last three of four that get you gone. Like, it's not anything that happened before that. It's what made it the 14 at Brian Kelly's number because he lost three of the last four that he's lost. And they're like, okay, let's speed this up. But it's still shocking. Like, I'm, I'm not yet at a place where I'm so immune to the professionalization of college sports that I'M not shocked. That video, it feels like that was a couple of weeks ago. The video that we just showed of him. That doesn't feel like it was four years ago that he was being introduced at LSU.
Stugotz
James Franklin was 104 and 45 at Penn State, 34 and 8 over the.
Dan Le Batard
Previous three seasons before this year. Also, just while I have a second, I just want to say, like, I do support individual military persons.
Stugotz
He doesn't support the troops, Dan. No, I mean, I do.
Dan Le Batard
What I said is I do support. I support troops.
Stugotz
No, I do.
Dan Le Batard
Look, I'm not going to be deposed while we're cleaning house. Dad, how you doing after all that sodium?
Greg Cody
Well, speaking of the military, I can report right now that coffee does not go with olives. It's just a mix. It's combination that you don't want to be a part of. Trust me. I'm going to be running to the bathroom like Richmond took Virginia.
Stugotz
I like that.
Christopher
You guys just saw one of the greatest tricks in the Greg Cody playbook when he just wants to say what he wants to say and doesn't want to address anything that's been offered to him by the show. Speaking of the military, put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Speaking of the military, do olives go with coffee, yes or no? Let's play. Let's just clean out the Brian Kelly file here. Earlier this season, he got very mad with a reporter. And I want to just play the sound again. This was recently. And I want to play the sound of him banging on a table. And these are the only Brian Kelly memories I have. So play whichever one you want here. And we will play both of them and empty the Brian Kelly file.
Dan Le Batard
And we're sitting here again. We're sitting here again talking about the same things. Pounding the death.
Christopher
Play that one again. So I could just hear what sounds like cutlery flying off of the press conference table.
Dan Le Batard
And we're sitting here again. We're sitting here again talking about the same things.
Christopher
Now play him getting mad at a reporter. This was after a game they won. This was during happier times.
Stugotz
What are you seeing with your offense?
Dan Le Batard
Stop.
Christopher
Really?
Dan Le Batard
Is that the first question? We won the game 20 to 10. Try another question. What do you want me to tell you? I just laid it out for you. We played the game to win the game. We played the game to win the game.
Christopher
All right, how about third down then?
Stugotz
What is going on with third down?
Dan Le Batard
It's one game. Last game, we were great on third down.
Christopher
You're micro you're looking at this from the wrong perspective.
Dan Le Batard
LSU won the football game. Won the game. I don't know what you want from me. What do you want? You want us to win 70 to nothing against Florida to keep you happy?
Christopher
No, I think people want to know why you can't run the ball quite.
Dan Le Batard
We can run the ball. Did you see the last play of the game? That's all you need. You just need one. There's a ridiculous questions and I'm getting tired of it. That football team just work their tail off to get an SEC win and you want to know what's wrong?
Christopher
You know what? You're spoiled.
Dan Le Batard
You're spoiled. This team is 17 and one at night. 17 and one.
Christopher
Give them some respect.
Dan Le Batard
How about that? Give them some respect instead of micro analyzing every little thing. This is ridiculous. For a group of seasoned reporters, that kind of question is so out of line.
Greg Cody
Wow. I want to believe with all of my heart that that belittled reporter worked behind the scenes to get Brian Kelly fired. I believe it happened.
Dan Le Batard
I can relate to the saying micro and then that pause of like searching for the word you're actually looking for. Stop micro analyzing everything.
Christopher
He circled back around and made sure that he got that word on the back end. Also no longer 17 and one at night. They pride themselves, Zazlo can say, having.
Dan Le Batard
Been there, it was my first time there this weekend.
Christopher
Yeah, they pride themselves on being a very difficult place to play at night. I remember the first time I learned it. The University of Miami went there and they had a tiger in a cage outside of the Hurricane locker room. They put it there and the Hurricanes were sticking their hands in the cage. And then 1:44 to 3. That the nighttime LSU feeling is something they take pride in. He got fired because he lost that way at night.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Saturday night in Death Valley. Like that's their thing. And yeah, it was really loud. I was on the field, Greg. I had a field pass for the game and it was especially in the first half. They made cool plays. Interception, the end zone. They got a block punt for a safety. Place is very, very loud. But Texas A and M didn't care.
Greg Cody
Did you speak with Mike the Tiger or no?
Dan Le Batard
No, we actually went to go visit Mike the Tiger. Homeboy was hiding. Didn't want to come out. Didn't get to see him.
Greg Cody
Him and his team.
Dan Le Batard
Whatever, man. You see any cool celebrities on the sideline, Shaq? Yeah, I was standing right behind the bad job by you. Why would you stand right behind? Well, man, like I was off the side. But I'll tell you, man, there's, like, this whole crowd of people. We're standing on the sidelines watching the game. Shaq just sees over everyone.
Greg Cody
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Like, no one ever blocks his view.
Christopher
He sees.
Dan Le Batard
There's. There's a lot of people saying. Trying to see what's going on. And Shaq just. He just gets to stand there unobstructed.
Christopher
Do you realize, though, when you say you're standing behind Shaq, I could cover the entirety of the Earth and find maybe, like, Yao Ming in terms of humans throughout the entirety of Earth. That would be the worst. To stand behind, trying to see something. Shaq has to be at the very top of the list.
Dan Le Batard
But there were people in front of Shaq, too. But it doesn't matter. It's an unobstructed view. He just gets to stand there and never has to tell anyone in front of him to sit down.
Greg Cody
Could you hear what he was mumbling or.
Dan Le Batard
No, no, no. He was just. He was chilling watching the game.
Stugotz
What did he say?
Christopher
He tried to say Wembanyama, but his father wasn't listening. And then he started leaking confidence.
Greg Cody
Yeah, but Wembanyama is. Is a few inches taller, but he's not. Not as wide like a refrigerator like Shaq is.
Stugotz
It is a pretty special place that Brian Kelly occupies where, like, no one thinks he should have stayed, that you can't find an ally in the media.
Dan Le Batard
It feels also like everyone universally believes he's a massive jerk.
Stugotz
Yeah, everyone's pretty happy about this. Pretty pumped.
Dan Le Batard
You know, someone died in South Bend.
Greg Cody
He is a jerk. But will he get another job quick? Hell, yeah.
Stugotz
Do you think so somewhere? Notre Dame should take a look at him. If they lose Marcus Freeman, how great would that be?
Christopher
People don't like arrogance. Like, it's sports fans, especially, but they don't like unearned arrogance. Because Brian Kelly carries himself as if he's better than you and better than he actually is. And so to see it unmasked, people take a delight in it.
Dan Le Batard
You can be a dick when you're.
Stugotz
Winning national championships, right?
Dan Le Batard
Everybody's like, oh, okay, wow.
Stugotz
He's the genius leader. He's so tough. He's so this and that. But when you're 34 and 13, you get blown up by Mike Elko and Texas A and M. You're the dick now. Like, there's no. There's no genius behind it.
Greg Cody
Right? I mean, Bill Belichick was arrogant when he was winning, and New England loved it.
Christopher
Let's cover here. Some college football in a second. But before we do that, I just wanted to talk for a moment. In professional football, which obviously all of us know, super dangerous, super violent. Rare is the time though that you get what happened with Scatterboo yesterday where Romo yells, oh, no. Jackson Dart. Turns his back and won't look over there because the leg is so mangled, the ankle is so broken. And then the telecast says, we're not gonna show that again. And that's that telecast. Every other telecast that does show it does it with an assortment of warnings on the front end that tells you not to look. And there are two kinds of people on earth. The people who want to see that and the people who don't, which are you, because I am someone who doesn't. I have not yet seen the injury. Thank you for all the warnings.
Dan Le Batard
You haven't seen it, Dan.
Christopher
I don't wanna see it. I don't want to see that. I don't. I. It's a little too true for me on what it is that we're enjoying so much every weekend. I don't want to see it. I looked away. I still have not seen it.
Stugotz
He was being. He was asking to be helped up initially at first, which is just, this.
Dan Le Batard
Guy'S a psycho trying to get ready for next play.
Stugotz
It's insane. It's a testament to how much people like him and like his style of play.
Dan Le Batard
How about that?
Stugotz
I mean, you got a standing ovation from Eagle, right?
Dan Le Batard
You know, likeable you are of the Eagle fan is upset that you're leaving the game.
Stugotz
Every football fan was super bummed because that is potentially a life altering injury for a dude that was well on his way in that market to becoming a superstar. From his personality to his style of play, to the novelty of him being white at that position. The guy had everything in front of him and every kind of every football fan let out the same kind of damn man. I think with modern medicine, though, like, he's going to be back. He's going to be fine.
Dan Le Batard
Like, how many times have we seen.
Stugotz
Dan, I know you haven't seen the injury. Dak had that injury. Jordan Travis, like all these injuries. Jordan Travis is medically retired.
Dan Le Batard
Well, yes, okay, understood.
Stugotz
But Dylan Gabriel.
Dan Le Batard
And it's not about speed with Scatterboo. It's more about toughness. So he'll probably be okay.
Christopher
We can't say that. We can't know that. It is a badly fractured ankle. That in a sport where we all know how violent it is. Which are you the person who looks or the person who doesn't. I was grateful for all the warnings. I didn't want to see the slow motion replay. I didn't look too closely at what happened to Tyreek Hill either, because of how unpleasant that was.
Dan Le Batard
Not too closely, but you looked.
Christopher
Well, I couldn't avoid. No, no, I didn't look one eye.
Greg Cody
No.
Stugotz
Little De Niro look like Tua. Little De Niro.
Christopher
Good call by you. It looked in real time awful. And I didn't look at the slow motion stuff afterwards. Slow motion was worse on Tyreek Hill. But when Mike says, Philadelphia fans, not only did they boo Santa, famously when Michael Irvin was on the field and it looked like paralysis, those fans, not those fans, but Philly fans, were cheering. Philly. Philly can be an unusual amount of cruel. Scatter Boo was the kind of story that it seemed everybody in football was enjoying.
Stugotz
Yeah, they weren't cheering Irvin the way that they were cheering with Cam. Scatter Boo. It was different. They were happy. Michael Irvin got hurt. Everybody was really bummed. And I think everyone knows this guy was already being put on a launchpad to superstardom, and it sucks. He's a really fun player to watch.
Christopher
When it comes to that sport, though. And very quietly last week, at least around here, I don't know what kind of reverberations they were nationally, but in the game the Giants played last week, you saw they got fined $315,000. An assortment of people got fined because Jackson Dart went into the tent for the concussion protocol. And then Day Ball went right in behind him. So did Dart, and they went in. Well, Jackson Dart went in the tent because he was the one that was concussed.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, excuse me. Scatterboo also went in.
Stugotz
Yeah. Steve Martin followed them.
Christopher
It was weird that he got fined, too. Steve Martin also got fined. It was weird. He had the arrow through his head. He was looking in. But they got fined $315,000 because it looked like the optics of it, that they were pressuring the doctor, hey, get Jackson Dart back out here. And then Jackson Dart gets back out there. $315,000 is a good amount of money, people here, but any national reverberations on that? Does anyone care? Everyone kind of just sort of understands. Yes, of course they're going to try to get their quarterback back in the game, whether he's concussed or not.
Greg Cody
No, that was. That was different. That crossed the line. And that's why Day Ball himself was fined 200,000 of that amount. Head coaches Just don't do that. There's been. The NFL has really made a separation of church and state, so to speak, of football and medicine with that tent. And if you go in there for a concussion, it's supposed to be the doctors and the. The concussed player. It's not supposed to be any personnel from the team. And the next time that happens, the head coach will be fined more than day ball just was. Because that's what the NFL does. They have a system of. All right, you know, now that you're not supposed to do that, next one who does it gets fined $500,000.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, it definitely went in there like Scatterboo definitely went in there. So. Yo, dog, we need you. Let's go. Come on. Get your helmet. I mean, that's definitely what happened in.
Greg Cody
That spot for sure. But when the head coach does it, it's worse.
Christopher
Don LeBatard, surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing, that she married. She married Larry David.
Greg Cody
I do, yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion. And. And to my credit, my personality.
Christopher
In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit, it's amazing.
Greg Cody
My personality just amazing. Predates. Curb your enthusiasm.
Christopher
St. Oh, wow.
Greg Cody
I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself.
Christopher
You copy? All right, put it on the poll, please. Jude, you did. Greg Cody copyright being an long before Larry David.
Dan Le Batard
This is the D. Levatar show with the sts.
Christopher
The only other thing I took from that Giants Eagles game is again, the tush push was officiated poorly. They fumbled on it. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts fumbled and the Giants should have had the ball. And these guys can't officiate that play. They don't know how to. It's obvious there's no other play in football, not pass interference, not anything that is as hard to officiate as that play. Given how many times there are mistakes where the. Where we're all watching on television and we're seven or eight times we've already been. The Eagles have done something illegal on that play and they're getting away with it. And in this case, they got away with a fumble. He absolutely stretched the ball as if he was over the goal line and it was absolutely taken from him. And they blew it dead. And they blew forward progress dead. But his forward progress was falling. But on that play, the forward progress is not every day. They could do it from the one yard line and end up in your end zone because they just keep pushing.
Dan Le Batard
Everybody, that's, that's what I think maybe they're trying to like, I think that might be the correction where they're trying to blow that play dead. The forward progress dead as early as possible to take away some of that advantage that the Eagles have had. Because you're right, it can go on forever. That play not being called a fumble may end up hurting the Eagles long term. Like, they might look back at that play and be like, we got to get this out of here. It's too weird. Whereas if they call a fumble there bad for the Eagles in the moment, might be better long term for the Eagles and the rule.
Christopher
The only football game from yesterday that I actually want to talk about is that Bengals jets game. Even though it was an absurd game for a lot of different reasons. But before I do that, I want to ask you guys from the college football weekend, what did you guys think was the most relevant thing from the weekend given these choices? Okay. Mike Ryan appears to be right on. The SEC is a total fraud. Like Texas Alabama laboring against Mississippi State and South Carolina and both of them getting fortunate to win those games.
Stugotz
Congratulations, Vanderbilt, for limping through the line, winning by one score against a backup quarterback. You get to leapfrog a team that won by 35.
Dan Le Batard
Top 10.
Christopher
What is this? Vanderbilt ends up with a better team than I think they have ever had.
Stugotz
No, they're a good team, but ranked.
Dan Le Batard
Higher than Miami now. Yeah, but that should show you how bad the SEC is climbing. They're Vanderbilt.
Stugotz
They beat Mizzou with their backup quarterback.
Christopher
Let's.
Stugotz
Let's rank them ahead. I mean, Vanderbilt will lose to Texas because that's the sec, the ACC with a better publicist.
Christopher
And Mizzou is throwing a hail Mary that's being stopped at the one yard line. But you've got BYU is eight. No. Okay. Georgia Tech. This is the best Georgia Tech team that I have seen and I think they had a co. National champion. Did they not. Did Georgia Tech not win a co national championship? Do I have that wrong? I may have that wrong. But eight. No. And they're. They're five and oh. In the ACC for the first time. Haynes King is going to be at the Heisman ceremony and. And should be like he's, he's a great college quarterback. So Georgia tech is quietly 8. No. Indiana appears to be legitimately very good. Texas A and M appears to be legitimately very good at a time that very few teams are very good.
Stugotz
Dan 1990 under Bobby Ross. They finished 11 oh and 1 and split the national championship with Colorado.
Dan Le Batard
Bobby Ross, long time ago.
Christopher
Ole Miss beats Oklahoma.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that, that probably is the one that stands out the most to me is Ole Miss. I mean, they bounced back, obviously from a tough loss last weekend in Athens, and Oklahoma's clearly not as good as people thought they were going to be. Oklahoma's probably done now. Two losses, last three weeks. But I think Ole Miss a fun team. I think they're a fun story. I think Lane Kiffin's obviously a lot of fun. So Ole Miss winning that game on the road, I, that was probably the biggest.
Christopher
Are we not assuming, though, that. That. That Oklahoma is a fraud, at least in part because Maneer hurt his hand?
Stugotz
Mater. Yeah. He hasn't looked the same since he rushed back from that, that injury. Now, teams adjust. We've seen Miami kind of dip once people realize what they're, what they're doing. But this, I was so into this Ole Miss Oklahoma game because those teams are good football teams. Lane Kiffin kind of won this game with the presser at the start of the week, which is basically Venables is stealing signals. That's why their defense is so good. And Venables kind of took that one on the chin. It's like. Well, it's a testament to our preparation.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, didn't Robert Sala and Liam Cohen almost throw hands over that?
Stugotz
Yeah, but Lane Kiffin, he knew to get inside the, the heads of the opponent. And we had this tremendous moment after the game where he's talking to David Stone, who comes up to him after the game to try to congratulate him. And Lane Giffen is unlike any other coach in the sport right now.
Christopher
Coach Kiffin before.
Greg Cody
Oh, oh, are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma's players?
Christopher
This guy yelled at me like during.
Dan Le Batard
The game, like five times how great they were.
Christopher
And we can't score on them.
Dan Le Batard
Who else can get away with that?
Greg Cody
That's great.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, that, that seems to me like Lane Kippen, because there was a time where this definitely was not true. Lane Kiffin must be super likable to these players because I think 99% of coaches who are going to do that right there on live television to a player who just lost a big game. It's not going to end the way that interaction just ended.
Stugotz
I, There was a news tidbit that I, that I saw and I was kind of. I found it refreshing because Lane Kiffin, whose name is always in these job searching rumor mills, he addressed it with his team beforehand and he let all the Reporters know, like, we're going to talk about the Penn State thing, the Florida thing, head on. This is a newer locker room, and these guys haven't been through it before and use it as a testament to their program. And it was kind of cool to see him acknowledge it that way as opposed to some of these other coaches like Fran Brown or even Marcus Freeman, who does a really good job of saying the right things and his actions actually follow what he says, but they don't actually close the door on it. Lane Kiffin's not closing the door on any of these job rumors. He has a very good agent, and at the very least, he'll get a raise out of it, but he doesn't try to bullshit you with it or his players. And I really like that.
Christopher
It really is a perfect spot for Lane Kiffett because he can say what he wants, do what he wants, and exceed all expectations anytime he wins that game. It's a surprise because no one's actually expecting anything in the sec. It is a perfect job to. For Lane Kiffin to have. But I want to play all of that sound again because I feel like you guys missed something and this is largely a visual joke. But I want to show all of that again with Lane Kiffin and also remind you that he's allowing his social media staff to play around with this, too, because Ole Miss just sent out after that game. Sooner. Try later is what they did on.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, that's well done.
Christopher
Via. Via tweet. Oh, really? Okay, let's see here.
Stugotz
Sooner rather than later.
Greg Cody
Come on.
Stugotz
Are you running the account?
Christopher
I want to show you guys something funnier that I think that you missed here in this video. Go ahead and play that whole video again. I think we missed something. Coach Kippen before.
Greg Cody
Oh, are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma's players?
Christopher
This guy yelled at me, like, during.
Dan Le Batard
The game, like five times how great.
Christopher
They were and we can't score on them. I want you guys to look at why Oklahoma isn't what they used to be. It's right there in the middle.
Dan Le Batard
Who the hell is that guy?
Christopher
That guy right there is the reason that Oklahoma is no longer any good at football.
Dan Le Batard
It has to be a kicker.
Christopher
He is half.
Dan Le Batard
What's Ethan doing on their sideline?
Christopher
He is half the size of Lane Kiffin.
Dan Le Batard
That's Ray Finkel.
Christopher
How does that guy have better field access than says. How is that possible? That that guy. Look at the size of that person. That person is not the kicker. That person is the kicking tea with a Mustache. That person is tiny. That is not Oklahoma football.
Dan Le Batard
I'm gonna look up. What number does that look like? 42. 43. Who is that?
Christopher
You're gonna look that up?
Dan Le Batard
I'll look him up.
Stugotz
David Stone is huge.
Greg Cody
Let me see.
Christopher
Yeah, but Lane Kiffin is not. Lane Kiffin is not huge. And that is a tiny person. Our Hampton's Farms Hampton Farms nuttiest fan nominees. How many of those do we have this week? Christopher?
Dan Le Batard
Wow. It's the nuttiest fan. Brought to you by Hampton Farms. Get nutty with Hampton Farms, the official peanut of bowl season. Vote for your favorite nutty fan at Le Batard show on Instagram. Dan. We have two nominees this week. We have a naked duck in the Oregon student section. We had the duck taking his shirt off, which made him completely nude. Luckily, he's kind of covering himself up with his right hand. But I think.
Christopher
No, I think he does.
Stugotz
I feel like I should be looking away.
Christopher
I don't. It does. Why does that feel so revealing but it's not revealing? Because it seems like the duck does not have genitalia. It seems like there's.
Stugotz
You're looking, Dan. The way the ducks are set up, it's actually inside.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Christopher
Okay. So it's true to form, and he.
Dan Le Batard
Is competing with an Indiana fan, an old man who is taking your shirt off. Seems to be the trend of the season. People like to take their shirt off. And this Indiana fan decided he saw the crew doing it. He's like, I'm in. Let's do it. And he whipped off his shirt and it's an old man shirtless. What's better than that? It's harassment. He doesn't seem to be doing somebody's like, making him do it.
Stugotz
I love that energy. Chris, we've done this before, but show me your belly button.
Greg Cody
That's a pretty good build for an old man.
Dan Le Batard
That's a pretty good build.
Greg Cody
Yeah. That's not bad. Good for you, old man. I wish I had that look in the mirror, I'll tell you that.
Christopher
I feel like you do have that look in the mirror.
Dan Le Batard
All right, you asked for it. Take your shirt off. I feel.
Christopher
I feel like that's exactly your look in the mirror. I feel like he's got the same belly as you. A little bit swollen. Probably drinks a little too much beer. A bit of a beer belly.
Greg Cody
Oh, and I don't.
Stugotz
Looks great.
Christopher
I think you and him have similar builds.
Greg Cody
It's true. We're both pasty and old looking. That's true. Yeah. I'VE just got a little bit more gut. He's got the little flap over the belt there. I like that. Well done, sir. Well done.
Christopher
It. It feels like your entire body is wrapped too tightly in sausage casing. Yeah, not. Not unlike him.
Dan Le Batard
That's fair.
Stugotz
Well, in Greg's defense, the nine olives.
Dan Le Batard
Today don't really help. The sodium intake makes you kind of bloated.
Greg Cody
I tell you what, between that and the bacon I had earlier, I'm on sodium high. Right.
Stugotz
Coffee doesn't mix.
Dan Le Batard
It's tough for you.
Greg Cody
Plus, I got extra caffeine. I'm drinking extra caffeine coffee lately.
Stugotz
Quick addendum.
Greg Cody
Jacked up. What?
Stugotz
I didn't mean Dylan Gabriel meant Mackenzie.
Dan Le Batard
Milton, by the way.
Stugotz
Wrong Hawaiian quarterback.
Dan Le Batard
You drink four cups a day. Why would you up the caffeine?
Greg Cody
It says natural high. You know, I'm not a dope fiend. I need a natural high. Good.
Dan Le Batard
People were wondering if you may have been a dope fiend.
Stugotz
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Episode: The Big Suey: Is Greg a Dope Fiend?
Date: October 27, 2025
Recording Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode of The Big Suey dives into the wild world of college football coaching firings, the escalating impatience among fans and boosters, and the uniquely Le Batard-flavored sports bickering. From Greg Cody’s sodium-packed olive challenge to a dissection of the Brian Kelly firing and viral college football clips, Dan, Stugotz, and the crew offer signature banter, irreverence, and occasional absurdities—plus, Greg’s possible title as a “dope fiend.”
The group unpacks the sudden firing of LSU’s Brian Kelly and the massive buyout (~$53-58 million).
Dan and Christopher breakdown the cultural expectations at LSU: winning 10 games isn’t enough—they demand championships.
Stugotz highlights that although hiring Kelly was odd initially, he never seemed the right fit for LSU.
Notable Quotes:
The crew discusses how the high-pressure, impatient culture is fueled by wealthy boosters.
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 01:37–04:46| Greg Cody’s Olive Challenge | | 05:09–13:37| Brian Kelly at LSU & College Coaching Job Security | | 18:26–20:19| Brian Kelly Sound Clips (meltdowns, infamous quotes) | | 24:55–29:17| NFL Injuries: TV Coverage and Concussion Protocols | | 31:38–36:14| CFB Weekend Takeaways: SEC, ACC, Lane Kiffin Drama | | 38:13–40:12| Viral Fan Segments and Greg Cody’s Physique | | 40:32–40:37| "Is Greg a Dope Fiend?" (Greg on caffeine/sodium) |
This episode encapsulates why The Dan Le Batard Show is a pillar of sports comedy and commentary. From lampooning college football’s impatience with high-priced firings to celebrating the quirkiest moments of fan culture, the gang’s irreverent, incisive, and always entertaining. Greg Cody’s olive adventure, Lane Kiffin’s troll energy, and the Brian Kelly “family” accent all serve the show’s mission: to find the joy, weirdness, and debate in sports—especially when it’s a little too serious for its own good.