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Greg
I'm sorry.
Chris
I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Jeremy
I've done it.
Chris
And now here's the Marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual Liar.
Dan Le Batard
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Chris
I love the visual image of Greg Cody in a home he's lived for 30 years trying not to be lonely amid a family that's just eating up the red zone in the 4 o' clock hour. Even if they're bad games, just cause here come the Cowboys. Oh, oh, is George Pickens. Oh, he's their number one now. It's not CD Lamb anymore. And oh, we're going to get to watch CD Lamb get mad at Dak Prescott.
Billy
Get mad for dropping the ball. Cause the ball was in your hands and all of a sudden you drop. You went like this and made an O and the ball went right through like a tire on a swing.
Dan Le Batard
Please CD Lamb.
Chris
George Pickens has taken over that team. He seemed like he'd be useful in Pittsburgh. It seems. Seems like he's pretty good at wide receiver. But I the show's moving a little bit fast for me and the weekend is as well. Like Tom Brady said. What?
Dan Le Batard
Who?
Mike
The wild headline.
Billy
If you were locked in on that Cowboys and Eagles game like I was bad luck.
Dan Le Batard
But you have to ask yourself, why can they say it?
Chris
The Colts and Chiefs game is Mahomes rescuing his season. It is getting us ready to gallop through December and the holidays on. Oh, that team still needs to be feared. You had them this close to dead. Daniel Jones. All you got to do is not be Daniel Jones in a fourth quarter in overtime where the Chiefs are going for 300 yards and the Colts best offense in the league. You're getting 18 on the road in the cold. 18 yards, not 18 points. Daniel Jones. That's why they don't trust you. That's why in any game game going for in the future, if the Chiefs are in it against the Colts, the Chiefs will be the betting favorite by three and a half or more. Because everyone kind of knows, oh, if it's going to be just bootlegs and tight ends and we're hiding Daniel Jones and we're not going to throw the ball down the field and they didn't try that at all. The Chiefs are going to gobble you up on offense in December when it gets a little colder and we have to play outdoors. But they won't if they have to go through the Colts.
Dan Le Batard
Have you seen this? The Colts and the Chiefs played a football game. Now the Colts record might be better perceived by many to be better, but then the two teams played and then the Chiefs won. That makes the Chiefs better. You understand what I'm saying?
Greg
Head to head, man.
Dan Le Batard
What's happening in college Football should scare you. It should scare your family and your kids.
Chris
Are you wearing eyeliner?
Dan Le Batard
It's not important. What's important is what happens on the field is supposed to matter. Invoking acronyms like sos, SRS S, A, G, F, O, H, L, D, E, I. That's what I like to say. Get away from the group of five. What happens on the field matters. What is happening in college football? Hate to say it is woke. That's right. And it's gay.
Chris
Oh, you didn't just do that.
Dan Le Batard
Analytics want gay everything. I'm sorry. That's.
Chris
You didn't just do that.
Dan Le Batard
That's what they're doing.
Chris
You didn't escalate that quickly to the.
Dan Le Batard
We're not. We're not. Transitive property used to matter if Miami beat Notre Dame. That's a trans issue that people should be paying attention to and not ignoring.
Chris
Really? With George Harrison narrat you really? That's how you're gonna do this?
Dan Le Batard
I ran this by Jeremy because he is woke. The Alphabet mafia.
Chris
This guy gets it, dude. I like this guy.
Dan Le Batard
Seriously, though, we can't allow this to happen. Two teams played.
Chris
Please stop, Mike. Please stop. In fact, ask yourself, I can't do this for a while.
Dan Le Batard
Ask yourself, if two teams played and one team won and they have the same record, does that not make the difference?
Chris
The Colts played the Chiefs yesterday.
Dan Le Batard
At least in this country.
Chris
The Chiefs, Greg. The Chiefs announced. Like it was funny to watch it come down to this kind of cold map. If the Chiefs win this game, they're going to make the playoffs by probabilities. And if they lose this game and they're down 20 to 9 in fourth quarter, it looks like they're kind of done. You might want to bury this team right now. Like, you might want to finish them right now. Because we see how hurt the Patriots are, how injured the Patriots are. The wheels are going to fall off of that thing before it gets to the finish line.
Greg
Yeah.
Chris
So. So now what are you going to do if Mahomes is coming for you? As. As Romo is galloping through November with. Here comes playoff moms. Here comes. He's warning you. He was warning you on those fourth quarter drives. And then the Chiefs and the Colts. Colts best offense in the league. Zaslow. The Chiefs go for 300 yards in the fourth quarter and beyond in overtime. And the Colts, It's P. Pun. Punt, punt.
George
There's still multiple teams between Kansas City and the playoff spots. Like they're only a game back. Yes. But there's two Other teams, they would have to jump before they even get to the final playoffs.
Chris
The point is he saved their season. The point is the playoffs started yesterday for the Chiefs.
George
Well, well, so what does that mean? Like they have to win the rest of their games?
Billy
They got to win more games than they lose as especially in the afc.
George
No, they'll have to be a lot better than winning more games. You guys.
Chris
You guys made. This is what happened. You guys made the game at Denver. Must win. And then it wasn't must. You made the Colts. Must win. Must win. And now they're back in the game. Like we understand. We understand it's a flawed team. They can't run the ball. Like you're going to need that in December. You can't keep asking Mahomes to do everything nice like that's the first one score game they've won this season.
George
I'm just saying they probably have to go five and one the rest of the way to make the playoffs. And if they do that, it's playing every game on the road.
Chris
That's not the point. Look, that's nice. We can talk about all that and we'll spend the weeks in the holidays discussing that probabilities, whatnot. Mahomes saved their season. The Chiefs have been at nine straight of these AFC champions. The AFC conference championship games. It's not. It's nine straight.
Dan Le Batard
But have you seen this? The EPA tells you Indianapolis is better, but your eyes told you different. That game happened. It should matter to you and your family because this is woke and gay.
Chris
You did this already.
Billy
Did you get that? Dan?
Chris
I'm not gonna be able to allow him to keep doing this. You're gonna have to go. You're gonna have to go again. Mike. I'm sorry. I don't even know what to you up here except. Well, let me see here.
Dan Le Batard
They're penalizing minor penalty.
Chris
Too many accidental racism.
Billy
Talk about the left.
Dan Le Batard
You're. You're carrying out this woke agenda. You can't get more woke than saying one team is better when they lost a head to head matchup. This should scare you.
Chris
You have to leave. Scare everybody. You have to leave. You and your eyeliner. You have to go. You're going to have to go. You have to get out of here.
Billy
She's not wearing eyeliner.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not. I have some Egyptian roots.
Chris
Get out of here. You have the football yesterday. Okay. The. It was funny to see the Browns have their first 50 yard pass in 15 games.
Billy
Isaiah Bond. Dan.
Chris
That's who it was.
Billy
Running sidelines 16.
Chris
The Raiders exist just for everyone else to get better. Chip Kelly is fired in the middle of the night. Highest paid offensive coordinator because the Raiders are truly terrible. So terrible that Shedor Sanders, who can't play quarterback, just won a road game by double digits because the Raiders stink.
George
Raiders have such good offense players. Chip Kelly couldn't do anything with these.
Chris
Chip sucks. Okay, sucks. No, but fired. Also Chip Kelly fired highest highest paid offensive coordinator in the league. Put that over there. Also put over there. Just Jameis Winston football. All of it. Right. Catching a pass stiff.
George
That was awesome.
Chris
And no. And 3rd and 17. Like breaking a tackle on a sack. And, and it was just all Jameson. Then at the end. Of course they're going to lose because we all knew they were. Come on, we're so close. We had them. Everyone knew that. That's, that was. Tell me that we didn't know.
Billy
Trick or treat, Dan.
Chris
You knew it. No, but more to the point though, you're like doing the math. In the fourth quarter of oh, 13, really, you're going to, you're going to let the Lions beat you with seven. You're going to let the kick a field goal here. Okay, look, look, a couple of things yesterday. Weird. You tell me if it's not weird. Have you guys gotten used to this yet? The Cowboys Eagles game is 21, 21. There's three and a half minutes left. It's fourth and goal and the Cowboys aren't kicking the field goal. They're going for seven with three and a half minutes left in the game. When the Eagles haven't done anything offensively in the last three quarters. Like are you guys yet used to this? The new normal in football where they're treating no seven's worth more than three, four points. Seven. And I'm going to keep going for seven. Even if the math doesn't make sense to you because three and a half minutes left in a game. Schottenheimer's kid, it's like old school. Schottenheimer's kid is saying no, we go for it on 4th and short at the goal line because touchdowns are worth more than field goals. And when you're, and you're, when you're this close, that's what we do in this sport now.
Billy
It didn't only happen in the Cowboys and Eagles games. If you go to the one o' clock slate, the Patriots and the Bengals game, they, the Pats had two, basically they had eight downs at like the two yard line. Ran a bunch of stuff into the offensive line. They got a penalty, got a new first down, and then went fourth and down. Went out on downs over there, too. So it was like they just went for it. No kicking field goals, just try to get a touchdown.
Chris
To me, though, the story of the day is Colts, Chiefs. Can you wrestle it away from them? And to me, the stat pull away from that game for me and the. We were. We are understanding that the Chiefs dominated that game, right? And then took over the story of that game at the end. But Daniel Jones, not able to throw the ball more than 20 yards all game. When that offense had been in the red zone 26 times this season and scored 22 touchdowns. You were here to prove to me that you're what the Chiefs offense used to be. Roll through half a season being the best thing in the league. Nobody can touch you 30, but it's going to be required of you, Jones. Can you do it with. With bootlegs and scheming? Can you do it with tight ends? Or can you do it down the field outdoors later in the season when we trust you won't become Daniel Jones again. Right. Like that's the story being told yesterday is that King Kong is on the cusp of. You can push all of this off the mountain if none of you want to see it in the playoffs as the Patriots physically fall apart. Nobody wants to see this thing. Nobody wants to see Patrick Mahomes alive and swinging in the playoffs.
Greg
I think the story of the season so far in the NFL, and it's been an intriguing season, is that Patrick Mahomes and that KC defense make the Chiefs as good as just about any team in the league other than the LA Rams. For me, the Rams are the most all round.
Chris
Yeah, but that's not what the Bills have to win in this conference. The Rams are somewhere else. Look, we are in agreement that whatever comes. I think we're in agreement on this, right? Whatever comes out of the AFC is going to be flawed. Like.
Greg
Yes.
Chris
What. Whatever the thing is. And if you're going to make all of them flawed, the Chiefs are going to be the most. The most feared, flawed thing.
Greg
Yes.
Chris
But no, the Rams. No, the Rams are a buzzsaw. And the Seahawks are great, too. And the Eagles can beat anybody. Except that weird short circuiting that just happened to them yesterday. Because football's funny.
George
And Detroit right now is not even a playoff team in the nfc.
Chris
Well, and Detroit showed you nothing, beating the Giants and Jameis that way. Because of the silliness of that game, the Giants also did. So you guys Saw the. Malik Neighbors is questioning the Giants. Look at this man in your football Sunday. While Cody's trying to get Messi off the ground, the headlines are rolling in Malik Neighbors questioning that the Giants are losing on purpose. That is fundamentally useless. The worst thing that a player who is not playing can do to your team on a day off, say the games are rigged. Like, this is not helpful in any way.
George
How does he think that that's okay to put that out there?
Chris
This thing is great. What. What am I missing that Malik Neighbors would think so little of his organization that he would say, I think we're rigging games on purpose to lose them. By way of analysis of how the Giants lost? Because this is how it is with Jameis. He'll make you crazy.
George
Like, who was the first person to call Malik Neighbors and tell him to take it down? Was the PR guy. Was it his agent? Did he just say, oh, wow, that was unbelievably stupid. I'll just take it down myself?
Billy
No, it wasn't a self thing. It was a call.
Chris
But what is that? How is the judgment that bad? So bad?
Billy
Also, was he not around last year when they were losing on purpose too? Like, he.
Dan Le Batard
You didn't see that.
Chris
Okay, but you.
Greg
He's right. Malik Neighbors was right in one thing. He wrote there. It was the. It was the line, you don't kick a field goal with five question marks. You kick a field goal there. Mike McDaniels was wrong last week and they're wrong this week for not doing that.
Chris
Guys, can you. Can you come?
George
He wasn't wrong last week, though.
Chris
Can we. He wasn't wrong last week. Not by percentages.
Greg
I don't care about percentages.
Chris
Greg.
Greg
I don't care about percentages.
Chris
Craig.
Greg
I want logic.
Dan Le Batard
Have you seen this? Are you aware Greg's the only one making sense?
Greg
Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
You're all citing charts, numbers, and graphs. What he's talking about is what he's seeing on the field that should matter. And if it doesn't matter, we've lost all hope.
Mike
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Greg
Don lebatar, a woman who was out swimming with her friends, is believed to have been swallowed whole by a 13 foot shark without any of her friends noticing.
Dan Le Batard
Hmm.
Greg
That's the weirdest part about that story. You're swimming with friends, you're having a good time and Then all of a sudden, people are looking around going, where's Shelly? Like nobody screamed.
George
Every friend group has a Shelly, though.
Chris
That if they go missing because a.
George
Shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice. Classic Shelly.
Chris
Exactly right.
Dan Le Batard
Ye two guts.
Greg
She went quietly, apparently. If I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're going to know it.
Chris
This is the Dan Levatar show with the st. I know math is bad for an audio Monday, but, Greg, the decision that McDaniel made in Madrid gave them a 3.5% better chance of win probability. That makes it the correct mathematical decision. If you're always playing probabilities as the.
Greg
Odds, use your gut, okay? And you got a gut. Use your gut, okay? Don't be a slave to numbers. When you're tied going into the last two minutes of the game, you kick a field goal and then you trust your defense.
Dan Le Batard
I'm hearing this. Are you hearing this? Are you seeing this? Numbers are bad. Numbers get in the way. Numbers are woke and gay.
Chris
Greg, the thing that you're doing that is the wrong thing to do here is I want, if someone is winning on my behalf in any industry, for that person to have the best probabilities of winning in wherever the margins are for winning. So if they're gonna reject the math of. I had a 3.5% better chance than this, but I went with my gut. I accept the explanation, but I want the person who will choose the best mathematical path because it's the most prudent route.
Greg
But if you're going by mathematics and analytics and all that stuff, you don't even need a person. You need AI to coach you. And I don't mean Allen Iverson. Anyone can look at a computer and look at those algorithms and what have you and say what you said. It's not the truth.
Chris
Okay?
Dan Le Batard
Your eyes are open.
Greg
You gotta use the human touch.
Dan Le Batard
Greg is making all the sense.
Greg
The field test.
Dan Le Batard
You want to invoke numbers in computers, they're coming for your job. That should scare you and your family. What matters is what happened on the field. Quality losses. That's a joke. How about quality wins in head to head matchups? It's woke and it's bad and gay.
Chris
Okay, again with this? Okay, you're gonna do that again then. All right, so minor penalty, two min.
Dan Le Batard
Tremendous seeing this. They're trying to silence me. And it starts with me. Then the Miami Hurricanes, and then you and your family.
Chris
Minor penalty, 2 minutes. Dumpster juice take.
Dan Le Batard
And gay.
Chris
Minor penalty, two minutes, murdering the show.
Dan Le Batard
With her bare hands.
Chris
And a dismemberment kit in cold blood. I'm trying to talk math here with my stubborn friend and I just want to invoke Zaslow and Tony on this because I think your son is also math averse. We're in a new normal now, right? Where the thing he's complaining. He's like two weeks behind on. McDaniel did the wrong thing. No, he didn't. All these coaches are going to kind of on fourth and goal. If they're inside the five, they're going to go for seven and not three anymore. Because they've realized like they did in basketball, we're like, oh, three points are worth more than two. Or like they did in baseball, home runs are better than not. Home run.
Mike
You're going to keep shaking your head at that.
Chris
They've all figured out seven is worth more than three. I'm going to go for seven. If I'm inside the five, I don't care what the game situation is.
George
It's not even as much about that. Although, yes, of course, you're right. It's that these kickers kick and make field goals from everywhere yesterday.
Chris
59, 59, 61. As if it's normal. Three of them, like, it's just. We're going to. Here we go. 59, 59, 61.
Mike
Easy.
Billy
And it cleared the goalpost by like six yards.
Chris
Outdoors, outdoor outdoors with wind at 59, 59, 61. And you're like, what the hell?
George
Three point lead. Giving the ball up with two minutes left is nothing.
Mike
Then doing the kickoff, if they get it like the 35, they have to go like 20 yards.
Greg
You're giving the ball up with less than two minutes left and the other team has zero timeouts.
Chris
Just under two minutes. Look, Greg, I just love that we're already here for the boldness of Schottenheimer, okay? Whose dad never would have done it this way. His dad was always losing in the playoffs with 14 and two teams because he would have never done it the way that his kid is doing it. The Cowboys are not as good as the Eagles. They traded Michael Parsons because they are not as good as the Eagles. They know they're not as good as the Eagles, but they're there late in the game. They're capable of winning. And George Pickens is going off at the end of the game. It's 21, 21. They've got the ball inside of four minutes. It's fourth and goal, and they failed to make it. But no one questions that they would go for it. Anymore. I don't feel like in today's NFL we're not playing the way you did four weeks ago. Even where they're all going to get more aggressive at this and all of the offenses are going to be efficient enough. When it's like, wait a minute, so we've got to get 10 yards on four downs and we haven't been using this fourth one like 10 yard when we can get two and three here. We've not been using this fourth one all season because we're afraid of doing it at our 40 yard line. Even in college sports, you're seeing like crazy. Everyone's going forward inside. FAU did inside their own 20, inside their own 30.
George
FA, you went for fourth and one in the third quarter from their 10.
Greg
Good.
George
They scored a touchdown on the play.
Greg
Good.
Billy
Exactly right. And it actually goes back.
Dan Le Batard
What?
Billy
That's actually impressive.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't see that.
Billy
But it goes back to the Colts and Chiefs games. There was a, there was a play late, I want to say in the third quarter or maybe early fourth quarter, Colts had a third and one and they throw a 35 yard pass to Alec Pierce somewhere down there. Fourth and one at like they're 39 or 40. And then they punt the ball. It's like it's fourth and one. You got Daniel Jones, you got Jonathan Taylor, the best running back in the sport. You can't get one yard.
Chris
But guys, what happened yesterday, like, to me, this, this part, if you were going to do just drama and stories, this part, the Colts went in with the best offense in the league. You told us you're what the Lions have been the last few years. You get the ball down the field, you make it look easy. You can churn out drive scoring drives, scoring drives. 26 times in the red zone, 22 touchdowns, even when it gets tight. 22 touchdowns in the red zone. Are you that team? Oh, no, not in Kansas City. Not on the road, not when it counts. In the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter, you can put the champion, you can put him out. You could put your foot on the neck of the champion. We won 29 in your place. We did it your way and we beat you your way at defense. And the chief. Fourth quarter on, go for 300 yards and you go for 18. Like in terms of what it takes to win a football season, honestly, it reminds me of like John Morant and what's going on with Klay Thompson, where Klay Thompson looks down from championship heaven and says, do you know what it takes to like, win this like how much you have to respect the weekly nature of things. The Colts had a chance to announce themselves to America yesterday. They had a chance in the fourth quarter and they let playoff mahomes be playoff mahomes before the playoffs have started. Because the playoffs have started for the Chiefs. Like the. The playoffs are here. This is. They live for this time of year. They're here to see if the Colts have the stomach for this. Man, you think Chris Jones is going to be chasing everyone around on the goal line when Mariota is flopping around during the regular season? No. He's built for December and January. He knows what it takes to win championships. He'll try then and occasionally in the fourth quarter when you really need him and he needs direct Daniel Jones and.
Billy
He throws the center 16 yards the other way and just goes and gets you. But the thing is their identity is running the football. Jonathan Taylor had 16 carries for 56 yards.
Mike
Right.
Billy
Like the identity for the Colts is, yes, we're the team that's going to score 22 times with 26 times in the red zone. But you can't have your best player with 58 yards.
Chris
But here, this, this ignores something. Okay. And I've told you before to listen to Mina Kimes and the data dump she's doing before games on Friday but before the Bills and the Chiefs played, she said this is what's going to happen here. The Chiefs are very bad at stopping the run up the middle and the Bills are very good at running between the tackles up the middle. That's how that game's going to go. The Bills will hold the ball all game and then the game went exactly that way. The fact that the best offense in the league with the mvp Jonathan Taylor, scored I don't know how many touchdowns the week before and every week in December. Saquon Barkley time when we need a running game and we need. It can't be it's 18 yards in the fourth quarter. Like not when you're getting the 200 and whatever that you did against who was that that he it to two.
Billy
Weeks before the Rams? I think he had like 250 something yards.
Dan Le Batard
Was it the Rams?
Chris
Jonathan Taylor is obviously great at football. The running back is disposable. We all know how the quarterback, how important he is.
George
You think it's the game against the Falcons in Berlin?
Chris
Yes. At deciding time yesterday, Daniel Jones had a chance to finish the Chiefs to finish them and he gave you 18 yards of total offense. Best offense in the league. That's not Me telling a story. Those are the facts. Everyone saw that on television. Chiefs aren't usually in that one o' clock game. That's where the Colts have lived for a long time. The Chiefs. The Chiefs are slumming by coming and saving their season on one o' clock football for you.
Billy
But it's one, it's complimentary football. The Colts like to play, right. Their, their running game opens up the passing game with those bootlegs with those play actions for Daniel Jones. And when you're not afraid of the run because you're stopping everything stonewalling the line of scrimmage. Yeah, Ashton Dulin is going break a 48 yard run. But like you have Michael Pitman running out of nowhere. You have Alec Pierce. You have a guy named Ogle Tree who catches the touchdown like they're built to run the ball and then play off of that.
Chris
They just could. Where was Mo Ali Cox when he him.
Jeremy
You know what?
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Billy
One for nine.
Greg
There's too many suspicious good teams in this league right now.
Chris
Zazlo, what just happened?
George
I, I, I thought George was about to say something. I got confused. Like did George blurt something out? And then I thought George was about to say.
Chris
Hold on a second.
Jeremy
That's weird.
Chris
I, I'm sorry. No, just shut up, Zaz. Okay, you got Zaz, you got.
Mike
Minor.
Chris
Pelly 2 minutes for not listening to the show. I don't care what you got going on with George. When the ball gets rotated to you, you're not allowed for it to hit you in the face. Cuz you're like, I don't know. I was talking to George. Did he say something to me like get out. Get out.
Dan Le Batard
If you guys want to hear about.
Chris
Some football, we got Liverpool losing to Notam Forest 3 nothing this weekend.
Mike
Soccer. I get it.
Chris
Chris, Cody, please tell me what just happened. You just saw. You and I were looking. You and I were looking at Sass.
Billy
I threw the ball to him, Dan. I was like, what happened?
Dan Le Batard
He's open.
Chris
He's like a frozen computer. It looked like he wanted to talk. All of us saw it. Me, Tony and Chris turned to Zaslo and instead he's doing a private show with that asshole George over there. Okay, this, this guy in the corner over here that has been distracting me all show. And Greg Cody went on a Ringo Starr side tangent because he got confused by this person in the corner.
Greg
Ringo, all you need is love.
Chris
That's right, Craig, that's the same joke you made last time.
Greg
All you need is love, man.
Chris
That's when that's all you got. So that is your limited fake Beatles. That is your limited fake Ringo star, not George Harrison, right?
Greg
That's right. So that good.
Billy
What are you laughing about, buddy?
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Chris
Don Levitard. Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.
Greg
I'm sorry.
Mike
I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too?
Greg
It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100 on me.
Dan Le Batard
All right, Stugach.
Greg
But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't have.
Chris
Well, now he said it, didn't.
Jeremy
He didn't say it again.
Greg
Craig, my apologies since Greg.
Chris
Why? Greg? Yeah, Greg. Greg.
George
He apologized.
Chris
Greg.
Mike
Sincerely.
Chris
This is the D? Ler show with the st. The day of football yesterday. Okay. The, the week before. Okay. Scott Hansen starts at one o' clock with. He's like. And last week in the one o' clock window, seven games, the team trailing in the fourth quarter, five of them on the last play. And here we go. Here's seven more hours of. Are you ready to get crazy?
Billy
And you want me to go to the Barbie room and watch Messi and Los Suarez or whoever that is? Come on.
Chris
And all the games, and all the games are close, even the meaningless ones, but in the one o' clock window, I believe the Chiefs took the storyline of the day because I believe this biggest story in this sport. And I'm kind of stunned. I'm saying this, having seen 20 years of Brady is. Is the NFL this champion is so large now that the biggest story every week is did they win or did they lose? Like it's. You're going to tell me the regular season doesn't matter everywhere, but no, I'll know. You know what I'll know. It doesn't matter when you've eliminated them. And I know that they will not be the ones playing in the final game. And you've offered me like that. We've actually buzz sawed through Mahomes because this shit's hard when I go back to. I want to play some of this sound from Klay Thompson because I thought it was so interesting to hear him talk, talk like your grandpa about today's kids because he actually knows what it takes and how hard it is to be a champion. So hard that Memphis got there for like three months, chirped an awful lot, and then cratered as a franchise, crushing their youngest player. And so Klay Thompson doesn't respect John Moran, doesn't respect whatever his generation is, doesn't respect that John Morant would throw away publicly. Like, it's unbelievable to see Klay Thompson behaving like your grandpa at the end of the Mavericks bench when he's not very good anymore. And he just doesn't respect John Morant in a way that said so publicly after the game. So let's hear the sound here from Klay Thompson, and maybe we'll get an explanation from Zaslan what the hell he was doing with George.
Mike
And if you didn't see, it was because at the end of the game, Clay took a final shot, the Mavericks lose. And Ja, who wasn't playing in the game, is just. Just kind of giving him the business with jaw.
Chris
He's a funny guy.
Dan Le Batard
He has a lot to say all the time, especially for a guy who rarely takes accountability. But you know what? That's for another day. What a job saying that on this occasion.
Chris
Nothing of intelligent, just running his mouth. And it's funny to run your mouth when you're on the bench. It's kind of the story of career.
Dan Le Batard
So far, just leaving us wanting more.
Chris
You know, we all want to see him out there and do his best, but letting a lot of other stuff.
Dan Le Batard
Get in the way of that.
Chris
We need that in the NBA. We need our best players to be out there.
Dan Le Batard
And when you're a star, it comes with a great responsibility, and I hate.
Chris
To see that go to waste. You can, any number of times, wherever there is beef. And look, Shannon Sharp was trying to fight Memphis. Memphis was it for a minute. And John Morant got carried away with whatever that was for a while. You rarely hear a champion of this man's credentials so clearly articulate. I don't respect you. And that's that. Those are the words that cut the most. Like, oh, yeah, you got gifts. I've seen a thousand guys who have gifts. Do you know what it takes to beat all of them for 10 years? Because we got to go get Kevin Durant and because Draymond's punching our teammates because he's a crazy person. Like, do you know what it takes?
George
Yeah, I think it was a pretty brutal takedown by Clayton Thompson there, like. Cause he said. He said it really succinctly, matter of fact.
Billy
Yep.
George
And while also getting the point across in a very strong way. And then, you know, capping it off with, you know, he doesn't take any accountability. He never does. Not a surprise. Look, I don't. I don't think there's a bigger loser move, and I think most NBA players would probably agree with it, than talking trash when you're in street clothes on the bench. And then add to it. You're talking trash when you're in street clothes on the bench in the midst of. Of, you know, your worst career season when you actually are playing.
Chris
Oh, and not just your worst career season when you're playing right now. John Morant, I dare say, is the poster child for this person. Doesn't care enough about all of his blessings. Like in sports right now among superstars. Look, this person, this was face of the league 18 months ago. This is. You were telling me Anthony Edwards and him were going to be the face of the league because. Because what grace to have a small guy who's sinewy, be more athletic than everybody. And then fame comes to him and all the nonsense comes to him. And now Klay Thompson, champion, pedigree champion, looks down on you. Remembers when you challenge them, a fly around an elephant's tail for five months. That's the most relevant you've been when you sniffed where they were with greatness for Clay to say, don't respect you. Don't respect you. Since back then, you guys don't understand what it takes. You've been chirping for years and look, you've fallen on the neck. The only thing that stopped John Morant is whatever is the pressure of being John Morant amid. Amid being a child, amid the responsibilities of that franchise.
George
He never plays. He's in the middle of a career war season, and his team sucks. And talking trash off the bench when you're in street clothes, you a champion is sucker behavior.
Mike
Wow.
Billy
Suck a move, sucker.
Jeremy
John Morant.
Dan Le Batard
Sucker the day.
Chris
Suck a move. We can't suck of. We can't do this. I don't. I'm not comfortable with how we do this.
Dan Le Batard
Have you seen seen this?
Chris
We've got to be making excuses again.
Dan Le Batard
For the young man.
Billy
He's so bronze.
Dan Le Batard
I understand that Memphis has blue leadership, but someone needs to go into that town and clean it up. This shouldn't be a role model. This is a villain. And we should talk about it that way.
Mike
Should he take the crown as the ultimate sucker until we find someone else to replace him? Wow. He's the show.
Billy
Suck of the year.
George
Wow. Well, no not the year, because it could change, but I think Chris is on to something.
Chris
I'm not comfortable with you, what you guys are doing, and I don't. I think we're getting too far.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not comfortable with what you're doing.
Chris
I agree.
Dan Le Batard
You're making this man a child. He's a grown man, 26, in charge of his own decisions. At 26. I was married with seven children.
Chris
Yeah. I don't. Man. I don't mind infantilizing John Moran, given what his behaviors have been. They've been public, immature.
Mike
Let's infantilize them.
Chris
I don't think. I don't think I'm the only one doing that. I think.
Dan Le Batard
How young are you making them? Is it 15 or is it 18? Is there a difference?
Chris
It's not grown up.
Dan Le Batard
How big of a difference?
Chris
There's a big difference between 15 and 18.
Dan Le Batard
Depends on which state you are. You could say that. But is it really?
Chris
How much makeup are you wearing? How much you are. You're.
Greg
What do you mean?
Billy
He's got a good tan, dude.
Chris
Look, this is all I'm saying to you, okay? When we talk about the AFC and whatever the weaknesses of the AFC is, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are doing this to the Patriots, the way they're broken and saying, yeah, Hunter Henry, seven catches for 110. You think that's how you're going to beat us in the playoffs? Let's go, Pop Douglas. Let's play that game wherever it is you want to play it.
Billy
If you're going, there's Mac Hollins.
Chris
Man. That's where we are with this sport right now, right? It's. Everyone's playing exciting, interesting, close games and everyone's just looking at the Chiefs and Eagles from every angle.
Greg
I think part of the issue is that a lot of the teams with good records are obviously not good teams. Nobody's really scared of New England.
Chris
The Bear. The Bears. I think the Bears are a good team. I don't think. I don't know. Sneaky. They're sneaky good.
Greg
Really?
George
I think so.
Chris
I think they're sneaky good.
Billy
I don't think they're going to do anything. I think they're sneaky good for right now, for. For first year of Ben Johnson. If I told you the Bears were going to be 8 and 3 and the Lions were going to be what, 7 and 4, I'd be like, okay, sneaky.
Chris
We can't really do any more the. That we can't really do. Who have they beaten? In that league.
Dan Le Batard
Why not?
Chris
Or fourth?
Dan Le Batard
That's an important question.
Chris
Schedules.
Dan Le Batard
If you beat the team team and they beat another team, you're better than that team they beat. That's the trans issue we're talking about here. Transit of property. It matters. And it should matter because what happens between the lines is important. The more you dilute it, the more you invoke acronyms. The more you invoke math, the further it is you get away from your traditional American values. This is wrong. And it should scare you and your family.
Greg
The Chicago Bears.
Chris
Hold on, hold on.
Greg
Okay.
Chris
Is there not? I thought there was another note after. This should scare you and your family. No.
Dan Le Batard
And it's gay.
Chris
Yeah. Okay.
Billy
Walked into that one. Dan. You knew that was coming.
Dan Le Batard
The one that I was analytics one. Everything gay.
Chris
Okay.
Billy
Okay.
Mike
I will say not a lot of good wins on this Bears.
Greg
Can I just say one thing about the Bears. The Bears are the biggest fraud in the NFL right now.
Chris
Oh, no.
Greg
Their. Their defense is bottom third in the league. Their point differential is minus three. They're the only great record team with a minus point differential. Not a good team. It's an embarrassment that Green Bay in Detroit is trailing the Chicago Bears.
Dan Le Batard
He's so close to saying it's right there in front of his nose. You know he wants to say it.
Chris
Craig.
Dan Le Batard
It's woke Greg. And Greg, you say not a good team.
Chris
More than embarrassment. Greg, what do you mean not a good team? The Bears are 8 and 3. What's the point of playing 11 games? You got to beat the teams that you're playing in front of.
Greg
You got to get it head to head. They are eight and three, I'll give them that. But we're still a bad team.
Dan Le Batard
The quarterback of the Bears paints his nails.
Chris
You can't say not a good team.
Greg
Do you know how much the Bears would be underdogs to the Kansas City Chiefs if they met next week?
Chris
Okay, that. This is not so.
Greg
This is probably close to double figures.
Chris
No way.
Greg
Seven and a half.
Billy
That's a four and a half points.
Mike
Maybe three and a half.
Dan Le Batard
Problem with numbers. Who would be favored?
Chris
Greg. Good.
Greg
Look at all the good teams. Tampa Bay. Not that good.
Dan Le Batard
Quality.
Greg
San Francisco. Not that we don't know about.
Billy
San Francisco.
Greg
Philadelphia? Not that good.
George
Not that good.
Chris
Greg, 28 of like 34 games.
Greg
Chargers? Not that good.
Chris
This is Colts.
Greg
Not that good. Jaguars? Not that good. Steelers? Not that good. Bills? Not that good.
Chris
George, what are you encouraging over there? What are you telling us to. Greg's right. I just wanted to see Greg keep.
Dan Le Batard
Going on which teams were good and.
Chris
Which teams were bad.
Greg
Thank you.
Chris
Greg. I know you went over the Chicago.
Dan Le Batard
Bears, but were you going to get.
Chris
To the Minnesota Twinks anytime soon?
Greg
Well, nobody thinks they're good. I mean, come on.
George
You can understand how I got confused.
Chris
With George earlier, right?
Greg
George Arizon, One of the underrated Beatles.
Chris
Do you want any of Jeremy's thoughts on. On the Heat?
Greg
I would like his thoughts on the breakup of the Beatles. Because George, George, you were at odds with Paul McCartney back then, weren't you?
Dan Le Batard
You. Yeah, I mean, it was a rough time, you know, some.
Chris
Some odd times with Lennon and McCartney and Star. And then there was the whole thing with me and Clapton and his wife. You know, it's. It's been an up and down life. But, you know, we. We figure it out.
Dan Le Batard
Are you seeing this? He's not George Harrison. But he's telling you he is. He's identifying as George Harrison even though he wasn't born. That should scare you and your family.
Chris
I'm not. Again with this.
Dan Le Batard
It's woke.
Chris
Come on. And how much.
Dan Le Batard
George.
Chris
George. How much makeup? That's right.
Dan Le Batard
This guy gets it.
Chris
How much makeup are you wearing? What is happening right now?
Billy
Why did he keep saying this? Why does he keep asking?
Dan Le Batard
He keeps accusing me of wearing that.
Billy
Look at me.
Chris
Well, not wearing any makeup.
Mike
The side by side of Tony and Mike.
Chris
Tony, you are. You are normally browner than Mike. He's making you look not if not albino ish. Like you are certainly not getting enough blood to your face. Like Mike is looking a good deal more tan Hispanic than you are.
Dan Le Batard
Are you seeing this?
Chris
Brownish.
Dan Le Batard
It's a glow. When you've been exposed to the truth. Because what matters on a football field matters eternally. You're looking at polls. The pollsters are a problem too. They're fake polls. The coaches poll. There isn't a single coach that would be okay with a team they beat ranked ahead of them if they had the same record. Call it what it is. It's.
Chris
What is it?
Dan Le Batard
It's a problem. It should scare you. It's gonna be the end of you and your children.
Chris
Chris, can we do funniest thing from the sports weekend, please? I need to lighten this up. I can't give him enough penalties. Minor penalty, two minutes delay a show. I just need to get you out so that I can do the show and you can stop doing this. You're on a platform to nowhere.
Dan Le Batard
Are you seeing this? They're trying to Muslim. Okay, I'M speaking truth. He doesn't like it, so shut me up.
Chris
Okay, that's wrong.
Dan Le Batard
It's woke and gay.
Chris
Yes, in that. So Jamis was delightful yesterday. That was funny and fun to watch. The open field stiff arm catching of a pass as Detroit's trying to hang on to the fringes of the playoffs. Like, Detroit's trying to hold on. Like, look, we've got only so much of this man Campbell left. All right?
Billy
Have you seen Gibbs?
Chris
Have you seen what we looked like on the road? And so they go in there and they're like biting kneecaps. It's like Jameis is like, whoa, double reverse. My hurt receiver gonna be criticizing our play calling. Throw the ball back to me. Stiff arm, open field. Jameis was this close to knocking the Lions to ending the Lions window. It was only going to be descent from Dan Campbell from here. Because you can only eat so many kneecaps.
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Chris
Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
Dan Le Batard
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Chris
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris
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Chris
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Date: November 24, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, with Chris, Billy, Greg, Mike, Jeremy, George, and others
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
In this lively episode of "The Big Suey," the Dan Le Batard crew dive into the chaos of the NFL season, the transformation of football strategy, and broader pop culture themes—with characteristic irreverence and sharp wit. They grapple with debates over analytics vs. “gut” decisions in coaching, the meaning of head-to-head games, the shifting value of traditional football wisdom, and the notion of “wokeness” in sports logic. The show bounces between NFL storylines, college football controversies, NBA drama, and a running meta-joke about “woke and gay” analytics—lampooning the way language and culture intersect with sports arguments.
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|------------| | NFL, Chiefs vs Colts/Analytics Debate | 04:20–08:42| | Fourth Down Aggression, Modern Football Logic | 10:49–14:44| | Math vs. Gut Feeling Debate | 18:59–20:25| | More on Transitive Property, College Football | 39:35–41:12| | NBA Sidebar: Klay Thompson, Ja Morant | 33:25–39:33| | Bears/Frauds in the NFL | 41:12–43:21| | Ringo/George Harrison Impersonations & Jokes | 28:15–29:36, 43:08–43:36| | Makeup & “Woke” Satire Recurring | Various (esp. 04:42, 19:00, 20:02, 41:12, 43:47)|
The episode is fast, funny, knowingly absurd, and peppered with inside jokes, mock arguments over real issues, and sharp cultural satire. Dan leads the bit about “woke and gay” analytics with bombastic deadpan irony, while Chris, Greg, and the rest bounce between genuine debate and elaborate clowning. The dynamic is purposely chaotic, and listeners unfamiliar with the show will nevertheless get a strong sense of both the NFL and NBA landscape—and the ways sports talk intersects with wider social commentary.
This episode captures the Le Batard Show’s blend of irreverent humor, insightful sports analysis, and rapid-fire banter. The main topics revolve around the evolving logic in professional football (and resistance to it), the pressing narratives in the NFL season, the vulnerabilities of analytics vs. "the gut," and how sports debates reflect broader cultural anxieties. It also veers into the NBA and pop-culture, always with a comic, self-aware edge. The repeated “woke and gay” satire is a pointed mockery of reactionary sports talk, highlighting the show’s willingness to parody both sides of any argument and play with culture-war tropes for laughs.
Chris: “They’ve all figured out seven is worth more than three. I’m going to go for seven. If I’m inside the five, I don’t care what the game situation is.” (21:31)
Dan: “If you’re going by mathematics and analytics and all that stuff, you don’t even need a person. You need AI to coach you. And I don’t mean Allen Iverson.” (19:40)
Greg Cody: “The Bears are the biggest fraud in the NFL right now… Not a good team.” (41:21)
Dan (satire): “Numbers are woke and gay.” (19:00, various)