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Mike Ryan
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast.
Jon Weisman
I'm sorry.
Greg Cote
I'm not gonna apologize for that.
Mike Ryan
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to GR grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Roy
I've done it.
Greg Cote
And now here's the marching man to.
Mike Ryan
Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
Jon Weisman
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
Mike Ryan
So Tony got it right. The Thunder also have Utah's pick. So if the season ended today, the Thunder would have the 6th, 9th and 14th pick pick in the draft. Look at Zasla. You shouldn't be smiling like that.
Jon Weisman
That's crazy.
Mike Ryan
If you love basketball that way, that team is too good. And they've got what's going to go down as one of the worst trades we've ever seen. Because the Clippers, I can't explain to you how slow and old they looked last night to allow six blocks in the first quarter.
Greg Cote
They're terrible.
Mike Ryan
They're just really bad. And to reiterate both Mike's point and the point I was making about Mike's hand being up. Mario Cristobal's back. You have. Miami is the only team in the top 15 that isn't ranked ahead of the team it beat head to head. So Georgia's ranked ahead of Ole Miss and Texas Tech is ranked ahead of byu, and Oklahoma is ahead of Alabama, and Alabama is ahead of Vanderbilt. And the quote from Mario Cristobal, and tell me if you've heard this before. Quote, there's no one playing better football than Miami right now. We're playing better football than we were playing when we were number two in the country. See if you've heard that quote before.
Dan Le Batard
That's a coincidence.
Mike Ryan
Diana Rossini is with us now, senior NFL insider for the Athletic and the host of the Scoop City podcast. She's working on Christmas Day, which I just cannot imagine is going over very well in her family. She is. She's doing the Netflix game. How you. Are you being accused by the family of ruining Christmas, of working too much? What's happening here?
Diana Rossini
Is my family that predictable at this point? Yeah, of course they are. How could I possibly work on Christmas Day when I. When I'm a mom? I'm choosing myself. I'm selfish. I'm not concerned about the family or the joy of Mikey and Joey. So I talk to my parents pretty regularly. That hasn't happened. It's been a couple of days. Because I know that they're mad, and I just. I don't. I don't want to hear it. But I don't know. Greg, what do you think?
Greg Cote
Fumble.
Diana Rossini
What I do here?
Jon Weisman
I think you're doing all the right thing. You know, you're juggling. That's what you do, right? You juggle. You know, you're not forgetting.
Mike Ryan
Did you. Did you just get surprised by that question? Because you dropped something that you were juggling before she asked the question? You were surprised that it came to you. Is that what just happened?
Jon Weisman
I dropped my phone and, you know, the rest is history.
Mike Ryan
Okay, so. So you want to Think for a second because you didn't have time to think, you were thinking like you doing the right thing by betraying her family on Christmas to selfishly choose herself and Vikings lying.
Jon Weisman
She's juggling, she's multitasking. This is what strong modern women do, Dan. They multitask, they juggle, they do it all.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, but she's not, she's not multitasking on this day. She's choosing football over her family.
Jon Weisman
I don't see that.
Mike Ryan
Well, what do you mean? It's Christmas Day and she's going to be not with her family.
Jon Weisman
I, I, you know, I have not heard her say that. Did you miss Christmas?
Mike Ryan
Christmas is coming up.
Greg Cote
It hasn't happened yet.
Mike Ryan
Christmas is coming up. Thanksgiving was the one we just had.
Jon Weisman
I meant Thanksgiving.
Mike Ryan
Christmas is the one coming up.
Jon Weisman
She's already anticipating missing Christmas.
Roy
He's lost.
Diana Rossini
You know, Greg, Greg is, is actually spot on with making that mistake because it, it reminded me. So, yes, I was with my family on Thanksgiving. Of course, it was awesome and we had a great day. And when I saw the four year old for the first time in the morning and he was watching his cartoons, he said, happy Mother's Day. No, Mike, it's Thanksgiving. He said, happy Mother's Day. So my point is, every day is Mother's Day. But my point is they don't understand what holiday is when anyway.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Diana Rossini
So I think if they were older, I would probably have a hard time taking this opportunity that Netflix has given me to, to work on Christmas on a big game. But my thought is I can go do the game. I get to do something I've never done before and then I can just come home and Christmas can be on Friday, like the next day and they won't even know the difference because they don't understand calendars, they don't have cell phones to talk to their friends. Right, right. So.
Mike Ryan
Oh, but I think the other kids are going to say, well, Santa already.
Diana Rossini
So I thought about that. I've thought about that too. Because here's the other part that is probably important. And now you're definitely going to turn on me. I still. So we host Christmas, Kevin and I, we do it. And so we have about 25 to 30 people here.
Roy
Wow.
Diana Rossini
I still believe we should do it, even though I'm not here because everyone likes that tradition. My family thinks that that's outrageous that I would have him host without me here and put it all on him and he wants to do it. So, so that's the other factor in all this, that all these people could be at my house and I'm not here.
Mike Ryan
I have not talked to you as your mother in a while. Can you do an impersonation of what your mother is hitting you with here as. As if you don't already have enough guilt and shame about, you know, finally choosing yourself for once instead of those demon monsters.
Diana Rossini
So she, she's actually doing something she has never done before, which is why I know she's mad. She's not saying anything. The only thing she said was when Netflix offered me the job. And I wasn't sure what I wanted to do with this at the time, but there was like a 10 minute window where I wasn't sure because of the Christmas situation. And I called them and said, look, this is what I've got going on. And she said, wait, wait, wait. On Christmas? You're not gonna be there on Christmas. You go to work on TV on Christmas. I'm like, yeah, can't do that. You can't. You can't do that. You got kids now. You're turning very selfish. You're very. You're very worried about yourself. And that's the problem. You get to wind up alone. You're going to lose Kevin. Those boys are going to hate you. And like, she goes that far. Like, she does. She pushes it. And my father, who's, who's wonderful and says three words a year, just weighed in and was like, you're making the wrong decision.
Mike Ryan
Family support. Family support. Both of them think it's the wrong decision.
Diana Rossini
Exactly. And by the way, my husband sends me flower, like, hug, kiss, wakes up. Like, I'm so proud of you. Like, like everything you could ever hope for in a support system. Right? And this is the person I'm. He's not blood. My own blood does not care. They. They. First of all, do you think Camille and Rick Rossini are going to be able to even find Netflix like that? That's the other part of this, right? Like, they're going to be so. Like, even for this show, because my dad loves you guys. Like, just finding this has been such a big deal. Like, and I explained, I show them on the phone on the YouTube, you know, I do the whole thing, but I want it on my tv. You know, the whole. So none of this is really going to matter. And it always goes back to. As traditional as they are, is about the family. It's gonna just go back to how many people at the deli come up to them and say they saw me. If a lot of people say they saw me, they'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, she's doing so good. She's. We're so proud of her. But if no one's. If no one sees it, they won't care. Like that. That's why they had a hard time when I became a writer.
Mike Ryan
Everyone's gonna see it. Everyone's gonna see it. They're gonna turn Dan.
Greg Cote
You know why? You know why her husband is being so supportive about it, right? You know what? You know what husbands love Dan?
Roy
Dan?
Mike Ryan
They love money.
Greg Cote
Not as much as the wives.
Mike Ryan
They love it. Not as much as the wives. Money as much as the wives, but husbands just as much, every bit as much as the wives. I have.
Diana Rossini
Doesn't want to deal with me like I. Oh, it's that. But look, he gets it too. Like this. I'm so excited for this opportunity. As. As hard as it is, I haven't done a lot of big games on the sideline. You guys always see me on the field doing pregame and post game. I don't do a lot of sideline in game.
Greg Cote
So what game is it?
Mike Ryan
It's Vikings and Lions, Lions and Vikings. You know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry to do this to Zaz.
Chris Cody
Come on, Zaz. Out to lunch, huh?
Greg Cote
Early.
Chris Cody
Go hit the showers, buddy.
Greg Cote
Minor penalty.
Mike Ryan
Two minutes for not listening to the show.
Dan Le Batard
We'll lock in. Diana, this seems to be a weird season for head coaching candidates. Maybe it's because Ben Johnson was such a hot candidate, we talked about him for two years, that everybody knew who the bell of the ball was in college football. Lane dominated the story. But who's the hot coaching candidate that's going to be the bell of the ball this year with all the available jobs? There's some good jobs available.
Roy
I know.
Diana Rossini
Hi, Mike. Look, I think the Titans obviously have had the head start on this, and you always just have to piece together who knows who because it's a relationship business. And Mike Borgonzi, the general manager there, comes from Kansas City where he had a great relationship with Matt Nagy, you know, and you look at this Chiefs offense. Look, don't do that. The team is on life support.
Dan Le Batard
No, I can't do this for a.
Diana Rossini
Lot of reasons, but Matt Nagy, you know, wants another shot at this. He got some opportunity last go around with the Jets. He met with them before they settled on. On Aaron Glenn, obviously. But I think that's going to be a name. I think Robert Sala is actually going to make another comeback in all this with what look, whoever just, like, panted or exhaled or took a breath, like, I hear you. Because our memories are New York, right? It's that jets debacle, and we talked about it so many times in. But what he's doing with The San Francisco 49ers defense is pretty tremendous. And look, I give Kyle Shanahan tons of credit as well, but Salah's doing something with a lot of injuries and not a lot of guys, by the way, so I want. I know you can't, like, call into your show, but I was thinking of you guys yesterday. I was. I was doing another show, and I looked down at my phone and I see the. I see the Vikings tweet out that they've moved on from Adam Thielen. And all I kept thinking was, do you guys remember that day?
Mike Ryan
So important.
Diana Rossini
Yeah, it was. And I'm so embarrassed that I thought it was that important. And it was. It was a good moment of growth for me from then to now, especially seeing that tweet. I'm like, here I am being rude to my friends who are so kind to me, bring me on their show. I'm ignoring them because I'm trying to get a trade about a player that's not even on a team anymore.
Mike Ryan
So we.
Dan Le Batard
You mentioned two. Two guys that had opportunities before, and it didn't go well for them. But who's the hot, sexy name? It's usually you look. Usually look at the McVeigher Shanahan tree. So is Chris Shula going to be a headman?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I think. If I may. If I may, Diana, just to add to that, it's a terrible coach year and quarterback year, right? If you need a coach or a quarterback, you're stuck.
Diana Rossini
And look at the teams that are thriving. They nailed the coach, they got the quarterback, right? And that's always the name of the game. And any coach that wants to get or is trying to move up, they always just point to do. Do they have a quarterback? And that's why certain coaches are taking certain jobs. Going back to this pass offseason with Ben Johnson, right? With when he was looking around and he pretty much could get any job he wanted to get, he went to a place where he thought the quarterback was. Was the best for him. New England at the time obviously has the best quarterback in terms of what was available last year, but they obviously wanted Mike Vrabel there, so. So to answer Mike's question about Shula, yeah, I do think he's going to be another big name that's going to Make a run here and get some attention. But, but you're right, there isn't anyone at this moment that's like everyone's whispering about of like, wow, this guy's got coach material. Anthony Weaver is the name that comes up during a lot of the cycles because he's a good mix of culture builder and also he's a good defensive coordinator.
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Greg Cote
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Diana Rossini
Live show on the draft. Rick, Is it Channel 7 Stugats those girls on Eyewitness News. They look good. They're mothers. They look good, though. This is the Dan Levitar show with the stuff.
Dan Le Batard
Have you heard anything about Jeff Braum? Because my sources are telling me he's getting a lot of NFL interest.
Diana Rossini
No, my sources didn't share that with me. What are they telling you about him?
Dan Le Batard
Well, I know that the Giants were kicking the tires on he and Lane and he's a name that's been bannied about. He's got the college job that he would want. He's at his alma mater. I'm sure if Alabama came knocking, he'd listen. But the pros, I think are a better fit for him in terms of, you know, does he really want to recruit? He's got a, he's got a pro game mind and people would look to him to develop quarterbacks.
Diana Rossini
Here's the one thing I can tell about New York. They are definitely not tapping their toe in any college first time head coach stuff. They are on a mission to have someone come in here and build this thing from the jump. Like they're not in a space of being patient anymore. They want a leader. They want identity. They want to know who the New York Giants are again because I have no clue what they are.
Mike Ryan
Now let's play some sound here in a moment of Abdul Carter talking about being late again and sitting out the first quarter. And I want to also get to something from last night's game that I've never seen before and I don't think any of us have ever seen before in a professional game. But let's just get Abdul Carter again set out the first quarter, first round pick. I think he got his first sack last night. He has not been very good for them. And he was sort of a consensus beast that everyone wanted this person, but he can't show up to meetings on time. Here's his explanation. Explanation. After the game, the Hornets broke the Raptors nine game winning streak. Okay, that's still a means of observations. We'll go back to Abdul Carter here in a moment.
Greg Cote
Was just still going.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's still going from the weekend observations. That's not a reference that Diane is going to understand at all. So let's go back to Abdul Carter talking after the game.
Stugats
Second time in three weeks.
Dan Le Batard
Happens.
Mike Ryan
What happened? I ain't gonna get into detail. Like I said, shit happens.
Greg Cote
Why?
Dan Le Batard
Why Anthel?
Mike Ryan
Like for asking the same question I.
Greg Cote
Just answered, you can't, you can't be an irresponsible child when you're a professional and get mad that people are asking about it. For the second time in three weeks.
Mike Ryan
Grow up.
Jon Weisman
Yeah, I couldn't believe that the coach, the interim coach asked about that. He says coach's decision on why he set out at the beginning of the game.
Diana Rossini
Call him.
Jon Weisman
Call him on the carpet for it. Say what it is. Say he just missed. He was late for a meeting. Second time in three weeks.
Mike Ryan
What if it's worse than that?
Jon Weisman
Well, say the truth.
Mike Ryan
I think teams like to conceal that to protect their employees.
Greg Cote
But if he. But he's getting upset at reporters. Please, please.
Mike Ryan
Where are you on this, Diana?
Diana Rossini
Yeah, look, this is not new. This has been the problem with the Giants and I'd heard it even when Brian Dabel was here, of just. There was not a lot of accountability with the best players. And the good teams hold their best players accountable. Even I was at the Eagles game on Friday and I was in there losing locker room afterwards. And there's a certain way the leaders handle themselves even when things are not good, because they're not. They're not good at all in Philly, you know, And I just think Abdul Carter is just very immature right now and he hasn't had anyone else on defense. He's had no leadership around him to show him how to do it. Because that, that's a problem too, right? Like you have to be able to police your own locker room. Those are what the good teams do. That's what the Chiefs have always been so good at. They don't need Andy Reid in there saying, this is how you do it. They've got the dudes in there. The New York Times don't have anyone to tell Abdul Carter, hey, man, show up. Don't fall Asleep in the training room or whatever it is that he did the last time. So this. I mean, this isn't surprising. This is a team that's pretty dysfunctional at this moment.
Chris Cody
Diana, the AFC south is getting very, very interesting. We got the Texans in the mix. The Jags are looking good. The Colts with Daniel Jones is. Broken fibula. What's going on? The AFC South?
Greg Cote
Yeah.
Diana Rossini
How do you play with a fractured fibula? I'm still trying to. I'm actually working on that right now. Like, how severe is this? Like, I knew of a little boy once, you fell off one of those jumpy jumps, and he had a fracture fibula, and he was in a cast for, like, six months. Like, I get. He was a baby, but, like, I don't know. How is he out there? So, look, I. First of all, let's just. The Texans, this is a team that I was. I was just done with them, actually. I couldn't. They were bothering me so much because I. They have such a good defense, and it was so obvious that on offense, they couldn't figure it out. And anyone I talked to around the Texans kept saying, like, it just needs a little bit more time. There's so much change here. We got a new oc, we got new offensive lineman. And they're right, because now look at it, and it's all clicking. And I think they're just doing a really good job of taking care of the football, too. And all the teams that are doing well. All the teams are doing well have the most consistent thing going for them, and that's the run game. Anyone that's running the ball well right now is winning games, and they've got the momentum on their side because of it.
Mike Ryan
Put it on the poll. Did you know a little boy once who fell off of one of those jumpy jumps? I want to look at some still images here of something that shocked me and Danny DeVito last night. Danny DeVito was on the Manning cast and was just appalled that young Wei Koo, who. I'm telling you, when I. Him in Atlanta, I'm like, that's as trustworthy a kicker as there is in the league. When I saw him in Atlanta. But those. Those jobs seem to test, mentally test some people in ways that seem excruciating. When you're not a real football player, you're just the foot and you come out onto the field and none of the other guys actually respect you. Young Wei Koo, the hold was bad. The ball was placed poorly. His left foot ended up too close to the holder. And then he just stubbed his right toe and never got the kickoff.
Greg Cote
Like it was the equivalent of a golf, like duff chip, where your club hits like the ground. Like a foot behind the ball.
Mike Ryan
I just.
Dan Le Batard
Roy calls it a shot.
Mike Ryan
I don't. I don't even. I don't understand what happened there. So can you explain to me what the hell happened there? How does this happen to a professional kicker?
Diana Rossini
You did it. You said it all. All the things played into it. And the golf analogy is perfect. It's just essentially a whiff. By the way, I've done this in soccer before, and usually it's because your eyes are looking too in front of you. Like you're just. You're too focused on the wrong thing. And by the way, like, don't understate how much that hurts. Like what he did. Just think about your foot getting caught like that. Like the ligaments in there.
Mike Ryan
And that's what you think hurts about turf toe, Dan.
Chris Cody
Turf toe.
Mike Ryan
That's what you think hurts about football?
Greg Cote
We were all.
Dan Le Batard
No, no.
Diana Rossini
I think in that situation, look, we saw about five or six hits last night that you're like, my God, right in the cold and the type of hits they're taking. But that is still. That's painful. That is painful to kick the ground.
Mike Ryan
But it's not just about how cold the ground is. It's not just painful. It's totally incompetent. Like, it's his. His foot is stopped by the ground so thoroughly that it never gets near the football.
Diana Rossini
Yeah. Bridgeburn, New Jersey.
Greg Cote
You gotta cut him today. You gotta cut him.
Jon Weisman
I thought it fired him right then.
Mike Ryan
Put it on the poll. Should the Giants have come out on the field and fired Young way coo as soon as his toe got caught in the ground? The more impressive takeaway. I can't believe the patriots have won 10 straight. I can't believe they're the first team to 11 wins in the sport. And I also can't believe that Drake May is the best deep ball passer in the league. Like I said, I expected him to be good. I can't believe how good he is deep with those skill guys.
Diana Rossini
Yeah. I think a lot of people had that same opinion and thought. And I can just tell you from my own perspective of seeing him in the summer like he was. He was good. He wasn't great. Like, I never left practice going, wow, this team is going to win 11 games and be top of the AFC. Like, no way. If anything, I've always said the same thing. About the Patriots pretty consistently, and I am eating it badly now, which is they need a year. They need a year to figure out what they're doing. But they drafted well. They made some good signings in free agency. Josh McDaniels has been spectacular with Drake. They know what they are and they're bought in. Like all these little. I mean, they're kind of funny. No naps and, you know, one clap after the game for every person doing something, whatever it is that they're doing, they're. They're eating it up and they're all in on it. And the leadership there, to me has stood out because usually it's the quarterback that's the leader. I still think he's a work in progress. How could he not? He's 23 years old. But the other guys around him, even like someone like Stefan Diggs, who I've come on the show before and definitely have criticized him for the way he's handled things before in the past on other teams. He's been tremendous up there. Like, everyone tells me he's all in. Like, he's all about it.
Chris Cody
And he.
Diana Rossini
We know he's got a lot going on outside football, too.
Greg Cote
Diana, is Jerry Jones deserve some credit for the turnaround with the Cowboys right now?
Diana Rossini
Yes, he absolutely does. Because that was the same man who looked me right into my eyes outside that lobby of the hotel when I talked to you that guys that day after during the league meetings. And he kept saying, like, he was pushing back on me, like, you keep asking me about our defense. I keep telling you the same thing and you don't want to hear it. Which was, we just need to make a move during the trade deadline, which they did. And we just need to go back to fundamentals. When we fix that stuff and we focus on that, we're going to win. I was right.
Jon Weisman
Diana. This is a weird year for me. It seems like we're going to have a Super bowl without a Super team in it. A lot of good teams still waiting for a great team to emerge. Do you agree with that or do you see any great teams?
Diana Rossini
Absolutely. Every. This is. I don't remember the last time. This far into the season. I still go, are they good? Like, you know, when we did that as a joke a couple of weeks ago, like, I. I couldn't tell you who was good. And I still don't really know. Like, yes, you watched the Patriots last night and the way in which they're winning as well, they. That tells me, okay, they're good. Are they Super. No.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Diana Rossini
At some point here, I thought the Colts were a lot like the Eagles. They're nothing like the Eagles Now. I meant the Eagle. The good Eagles. The good version of them. I'm not seeing that. Right. If anything, I'm seeing them a little bit of a collapse here. All the good stuff that we talked about earlier in the year. The Rams, to me, are probably the best of everyone. I think they collectively have it all, top to bottom. But yeah, no, I'm with you, Greg. It is really hard to figure out. It feels like every week anyone can win.
Mike Ryan
You mentioned the Eagles here. So we've talked before about how important Lane Johnson is to them. They lose when Lane Johnson is out. They've scored two or fewer touchdowns in six of their 12 games this season. They have the highest three and out punt rate in the sport. They ranked 28th in offensive success. It's their worst ranking in two decade. And it's with 10 of 11 returning starters. They have the worst points per game of any team with a winning record, like everything. And now their offensive coordinator is getting his house egged.
Diana Rossini
Yeah. Well, first, let me just take you inside the locker room on Friday. So I see Cooper De Jean, right. Obviously in his second year. And the last time I saw Cooper in person was at the Super Bowl. And so I made that observation. I'm like, hey, last time I say it was the Super Bowl. And he looked at me like, yeah, it ain't the same anymore. It's like, yeah, you think? So much has changed for this team and they were able to hide so much of it last year, I think. I think they really peaked at the right time. And that was obviously in the playoffs and then getting into the super bowl and winning in the fashion that they did. So what's the problem now? Right? And. And I spent a lot of time talking to all of them, all Saquon, AJ Brown, all the guys in that locker room about, what is it like, I'm sick of trying to figure it out, what is it? And guys, I think it's a lot of things. I don't think it's just one thing. It's not Kevin Petullo. It's not Nick Sirianni. It's not an injured offensive lineman. It's not the fact that Saquon Barkley hasn't found his groove. It's not the fact that A.J. brown wants the ball of time. It's not the fact that Jalen hurts, just wants to take care of the football and won't be dynamic. It's the offense is boring and no one is really focused on doing what they need to do. Like that was my takeaway. And they're back in the building today and I can tell you from talking to a few people over the weekend about it since then in that building, like they're spending the next few days figuring this out.
Mike Ryan
Two questions. Two questions. Your husband, what kind of state is he in?
Diana Rossini
A wreck. He kind of ruined the weekend because he was grumpy the whole time and I had done locker room and he waited for me after the game. So I drove home with him and his dad and they put on WIP instead of listening to what I wanted to tell him on some of my conversations that were also off the record. So I had intel that no one else on the planet had and my father in law and my husband did not want to hear it. They wanted to hear wip.
Mike Ryan
That's offensive. It's insulting. But were you also booed when you were in Philadelphia? You personally?
Diana Rossini
Yes. Double booed.
Greg Cote
What?
Diana Rossini
Not single booed.
Mike Ryan
Double booed.
Diana Rossini
Like. Like this. Like straight in the face.
Mike Ryan
Two. Two thumbs down from two thumbs down.
Diana Rossini
But you know what? Ended up like I wasn't. Like my feelings weren't hurt because I made eye contact with every person that did it to me and I could tell they were just really sad. It wasn't me. It's the fact that their Eagles team on paper should be so good. And here's the other thing about this, and I know I'm saying this and people are going to tell me to shut up in Philly. How could they be so angry when they just want a Super Bowl? Like, I know the potential's there, but it's like the super bowl never happened. They're acting like the Browns, like as if they haven't seen it ever. Like you just had it.
Chris Cody
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Jon Weisman
To do this with us?
Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
I swear.
Greg Cote
Don LeBatard, are you on the fan right now?
Diana Rossini
Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever gonna go back to espn? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on tv, all those years and now you write. Who reads that?
Dan Le Batard
Stugats.
Diana Rossini
Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic. What you On YouTube, this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Mike Ryan
I think that I, I do believe that there is one thing worse than just being poor. It's being rich, then being poor. I believe that these fans are angry under all circumstances, but now you spoil them and entitle them and allow them to win whatever it was. 20 of 21 games. They're going to get unreasonable about it.
Diana Rossini
They're going to be unreasonable because. Because when you're also looking at the team, it's a lot of the same guys as you pointed out before, right? It's not like they had to go through a lot of transition and significant injuries outside Lane Johnson and a few other banged up guys, they're not really dealing with that much. And the dysfunction, they'll tell you, you know, guys in that building will be like, this is what Philly does. This is what we like. And I think that works to a point because at some point the dysfunction is just going to get them out of the playoffs. And that. That's going to be a disaster.
Mike Ryan
She's the senior NFL insider for the Athletic. She's the host of the Scoop City podcast. We will let her go on this note. Do you have any disciplinary measures that are working better on those demon children?
Diana Rossini
The good news is it's colder in New Jersey. So the time that they spend outside when they're not doing the things they should be doing, it's working better because they really don't want to sit outside. The elf is helping. We have the little elf on the shelf. Do you know what that is?
Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah, tell us. Tell us about it for those. I know. But Chris, Cody might need some help.
Diana Rossini
So, Chris, we have this dumb little elf guy. And most families do. And what you do is you hide them when the kids go to bed and you tell the children that that elf is going to communicate with Santa Claus house. And they, you know, he's the eyes and ears of Santa. So it's like having another parent in your house and you name them and he becomes part of your family. And like we, you know, ours is Chip Chippy or p. I don't know what his name is. It's one of those. And then you have to hide it and. But it becomes a problem too, in your marriage because who's responsible for hiding the stupid elf before you Go to bed. And you always forget. And then the kids notice Elfie didn't move. So, yeah, we don't like it. I don't know why I did it. But once you're in it, you can't. You can't quit, Diane.
Chris Cody
It's a means of control, right? Because the kids can't touch the elf either. Because all of a sudden, all the magic is lost if you touch the elf. I also have a chippy in my family. My niece and nephew have a chippy. So maybe it's from the same. The same part of the North Pole, but if you touch the chippy, all of a sudden, as his magic is gone, he goes back, he disappears. He tells Santa the kids were bad, they touched me. It's over.
Mike Ryan
Put it on the poll. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Is the elf on the shelf part of your family? You were saying, Diana?
Diana Rossini
Well, Mike, I have a question for you, Dan. I. I feel like I'm not maximizing the power of this elf in my house. Right. Like, everyone understands that. Like, he's the eyes and ears for Santa, and that scares little children. But I feel like we could do more with them. Like, I feel like I could get Elfie to get my children to behave better or do more chores.
Mike Ryan
I don't think you can do better than Chris Cody calling dressed as Santa. Facetiming him now that we're in December, him in character. You showing the kids on FaceTime? No, I' got Santa's number. Here he is. And you call Chris Cody. I don't. I think you will get a month of good behavior.
Greg Cote
She's going to tell me some things they're doing wrong, and then I'm going to send a video with.
Diana Rossini
Oh, yeah.
Greg Cote
Specific items that they need to address.
Diana Rossini
Yeah, but I'm embarrassed what I'm going to have to share with you because my children don't. It's hard.
Greg Cote
I've seen a lot. Diana.
Jon Weisman
Yeah, He's Santa.
Mike Ryan
Santa is allowed. Look. He knows when you've been naughty. He knows when you've been nice. When you're pooping, he takes your confessionals. You should absolutely use. Chris is saying Diana, thank you for the information. I can't believe your family of. Of cavemen wants to listen to WIP instead of Diana, who's been talking personally to the players. Off the record, like, this is offensive.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but I didn't know what Joe.
Chris Cody
And Bryn Mawr thinks.
Dan Le Batard
I know.
Mike Ryan
I got.
Diana Rossini
Yes. I don't even get upset anymore. When I first started dating Kevin. I got offended by it. Like, I was like, God, he's. Because all his brothers, like, they all think I'm dumb, and, you know, I just don't listen and. But now I just. Now I'm like, what? I'll just write about it, and you can read about it and be all upset, and.
Mike Ryan
You've lost Mike Ryan. Mike Ryan hasn't listened to a word you've said since. Two words that you said, Matt. Maggie. He hasn't listened to anything you've said since then. That's the exciting coaching pick, Lou Annorumo. It's a better.
Diana Rossini
Exactly. Like, what else?
Dan Le Batard
That last one. You're trying to trick me.
Mike Ryan
See you later, Diana. Good talking to you. Good seeing you. Thank you. As always. We have some sound.
Greg Cote
Real or fake coordinator?
Chris Cody
That guy was fake.
Mike Ryan
We've got a coach that you have heard of that is not fake. Who looks the most like Santa of any coach who's ever existed? Andy Reid. What is the context for the sound that we're about to play? Andy Reid. Not the most electric of personalities. What I remember Andy Reid saying was a cheese whiz joke that made me. Made me like him because he talked about cheez whiz in his mustache. But he's not an electric personality.
Roy
He's.
Greg Cote
He's being asked here about just their playoff chances and if they're gonna, you know, fight the fight, the good fight to end the season. And here's his answer. He has some odd phrasing in here.
Stugats
If you're coming to me on this, Matt, I'm telling you, we're gonna go after you every game. You know, that's how we roll. We're gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play, every game.
Greg Cote
We're gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every play.
Roy
So he thinks.
Dan Le Batard
Yo.
Greg Cote
He thinks the way to play football is to stick your hand in the other player's mouth.
Stugats
You know, that's how we roll. We're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play.
Dan Le Batard
All right?
Roy
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
Andy heard this at practice, and I don't think he understood.
Greg Cote
Well, neither does Zaz.
Mike Ryan
Clearly, there's going to be.
Dan Le Batard
It's not a mandible claw situation, all right?
Mike Ryan
Going to be a tickling of the tonsils when the Chiefs play.
Greg Cote
You're so innocent.
Chris Cody
Oh, you got it now, buddy.
Stugats
We're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every play, every game.
Greg Cote
I got it now, Dan.
Jon Weisman
I got it. Yeah, Nasty.
Greg Cote
You got it, too.
Jon Weisman
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Travis Kelsey. Said something at practice.
Jon Weisman
I like that.
Dan Le Batard
And he's so, like, good hearted that.
Mike Ryan
He didn't understand you guys immediately went to work writing things down as soon as I said Andy Reid looked like Santa. So what have you. What are you guys putting together?
Dan Le Batard
Putting together top 5 of coaches that look more like Santa.
Diana Rossini
All right.
Stugats
We're gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play, every game.
Dan Le Batard
Say what you mean, Andy. How great would that have been? We're gonna try to ram our cock down your throat every time we're playing.
Stugats
We're gonna try to tickle your tonsils on.
Dan Le Batard
Imagine how shocking that would be.
Mike Ryan
Well, the way he says it, I gotta tell you, it adds to it because he.
Greg Cote
Gravelly.
Mike Ryan
He sounds so special. Dirty like he sounds.
Stugats
Try to tickle your tonsils.
Mike Ryan
It's. Yeah, it's.
Greg Cote
Do you think I'm picturing just like his PR person sitting next to him.
Jon Weisman
And he walks up there.
Dan Le Batard
What'd you say?
Diana Rossini
All right.
Greg Cote
We're like, hey, good, good press conference. And they're like, I love Andy.
Dan Le Batard
Andy Reid should just go blue. Like, just start working on it.
Jon Weisman
That would be great.
Mike Ryan
He.
Stugats
We're going to try to.
Dan Le Batard
When Pat drops back, he's looking to skull you. Just straight up.
Mike Ryan
He. He makes him. He amuses himself in the middle of this.
Stugats
You try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play, every game.
Greg Cote
He's like, we're six at six.
Mike Ryan
I'm just gonna say what I want, but listen. Now your music himself. When he realizes what it is, you.
Greg Cote
Think he sees the reaction for the room.
Chris Cody
Maybe.
Stugats
We're gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play, every game.
Jon Weisman
Well, every play, every game.
Dan Le Batard
Give me some throat coat.
Greg Cote
That's how you tire them out, Greg.
Jon Weisman
I guess so.
Stugats
Try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play.
Mike Ryan
I've never heard an NFL coach sound dirtier.
Stugats
Well, we're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play.
Mike Ryan
It's not the words. It's not the words. It's. He's amused by himself and he sounds lecherous.
Jon Weisman
Yeah. Rasp.
Stugats
We're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every. Every play, every game.
Mike Ryan
I also want to hear from Liam Cohen. I have not heard from him since he did Duvall, but I. I wanted to talk about it in the context of Duvall. Kevin Patullo, the Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator, getting his house egged. Like, we've reached a state where that's not okay.
Diana Rossini
Right?
Greg Cote
But their offense isn't good.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, so. So no, we have just Philly.
Chris Cody
Like, we could chalk it up like egg house dash Philly. Like, that's just what it is.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, but you. Come on, man. His family lives there. I'd be worried. I'd be concerned about my family if the neighbors knew where I lived and were so angry that we're 28th in offense that they're. That they're damaging my house with eggs. I thought eg too expensive nowadays for people to just be throwing.
Chris Cody
They're back down.
Mike Ryan
They're back down.
Jon Weisman
They're good now.
Mike Ryan
Okay there. Can we hear from Liam Cohen though, the Jacksonville coach? And I would have thought that he would have inspired more indifference, but no. Evidently, Liam Cohen is surrounded by death threats all the time.
Greg Cote
One of the Titans players, I guess, after the game said Logan Cook threatened to kill him in one of those altercations there. And that's kind of blowing up a little bit. I was just wondering your thought about whether that might have been across the line or anything or if that's something, you know, that this happens during games. I've probably heard that said like, I mean, hundred times, you know, from players and games, so whatever. Indifferent death threats.
Mike Ryan
I'm going to kill you. I'm going to. He's heard 100 times. I'm going to kill you.
Greg Cote
I like the line of questioning, though. Like, do you think that that crosses the line? I love how he's a little afraid of Lee Income. Let's. I want to listen to the question again. He's like laughing through it. A question about murder. One of the Titans players, I guess after the game said Logan Cook threatened to kill him in one of those altercations there. And that's kind of blowing up a little bit. I was just wondering your thought about whether that might have been across the line or anything, or if that's something, you know, that just happens during games. He's just like, does that happen?
Mike Ryan
That's Jacksonville's punter.
Greg Cote
Yeah.
Chris Cody
Logan Cook is their punter, by the way, who threatened to kill somebody somewhere.
Mike Ryan
Didn't Robert Sala have to apologize a thousand different ways for threatening to kill a coach in the post?
Greg Cote
Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen. Wait, so maybe he does hear it.
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
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Mike Ryan
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Mike Ryan
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Date: December 2, 2025
Live from: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode is a rollicking, fast-moving blend of NFL insights, sports banter, and the holiday chaos of balancing work and family during the season, centered on guest Dianna Russini (senior NFL insider for The Athletic, host of Scoop City). The crew dives into Russini’s upcoming assignment covering an NFL game on Christmas Day, contemplates the quirks and dysfunctions of various NFL teams (especially the Giants and Eagles), explores head coaching rumors, and riffs on both sports and family life with their signature irreverence.
[03:24 – 07:09]
“Wait, wait, wait. On Christmas? You’re not gonna be there on Christmas... You got kids now. You’re turning very selfish... You’re going to lose Kevin. Those boys are going to hate you.”
— Diana Russini impersonating her mother (07:26)
“I can go do the game... and then I can just come home and Christmas can be on Friday... they won’t even know the difference because they don’t understand calendars.”
— Diana Russini (06:00)
[10:38 – 13:13]
“If you need a coach or a quarterback, you’re stuck.”
— Mike Ryan (13:02)
[19:19 – 21:12]
“Shit happens.”
— Abdul Carter, via Mike Ryan (19:29)
“There was not a lot of accountability with the best players. And the good teams hold their best players accountable... Abdul Carter is just very immature right now and he hasn’t had anyone else on defense... to show him how to do it.”
— Diana Russini (20:08)
[21:12 – 22:28]
“All the teams that are doing well have the most consistent thing going for them, and that’s the run game.”
— Diana Russini (22:16)
[23:22 – 24:43]
“...don’t understate how much that hurts. Just think about your foot getting caught like that. Like the ligaments in there.”
— Diana Russini (24:05)
[25:10 – 26:30]
“He was good. He wasn’t great... I never left practice going, wow, this team is going to win 11 games and be top of the AFC. Like, no way.”
— Diana Russini (25:10)
[27:15 – 30:52]
“They were just really sad. It wasn’t me. It’s the fact that their Eagles team on paper should be so good.”
— Diana Russini (30:52)
[35:49 – 37:54]
“Once you’re in it, you can't quit, Diana.”
— Diana Russini (36:50)
[39:55 – 40:51]
“We’re gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every play, every game.”
— Andy Reid (39:55)
"How great would that have been? 'We're gonna try to ram our cock down your throat every time we’re playing.'"
— Dan Le Batard (41:14)
[43:13 – 44:33]
“I’ve probably heard that said like, I mean, a hundred times... from players in games, so whatever. Indifferent death threats.”
— Liam Cohen (Jags coach, via show) (44:19)
“You’re going to lose Kevin. Those boys are going to hate you.”
— Diana Russini, channeling her mother (07:26)
"As hard as it is, I haven’t done a lot of big games on the sideline... I get to do something I’ve never done before."
— Diana Russini (10:07)
“Who’s responsible for hiding the stupid elf before you go to bed? And you always forget... The kids notice Elfie didn’t move.”
— Diana Russini (36:50)
“We’re gonna try to tickle your tonsils on every play, every game.”
— Andy Reid (39:55)
The episode is loaded with banter, gentle mockery, and signature self-deprecation, blending personal anecdotes (especially Dianna’s holiday/work chaos) with pointed sports talk and irreverent humor. The crew’s rapport with Russini is playful and supportive yet unfiltered, especially when exploring her “work-life balance” saga.
Listeners who missed the episode will come away understanding both the current NFL coaching storylines and the chaos of trying to celebrate Christmas as a working sports insider—with a strong dose of Le Batard-style hijinks throughout.