The Big Suey: Lollipops In The Oven (feat. Dianna, Joey, and Mikey Russini)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: "Lollipops In The Oven" (feat. Dianna, Joey, and Mikey Russini)

Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and company blend their irreverent sports and pop-culture commentary with a heavy dose of family chaos and parenting stories, headlined by NFL insider Dianna Russini (plus, her sons Joey and Mikey's on-air mayhem). The group swings from Miami sports updates (Panthers, Heat) to NFL analysis with Dianna, to wild debates over parent hacks (like hiding lollipops in ovens), all while showcasing their trademark humor and chemistry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

South Florida Sports Update

• Panthers & Heat Recap
  • Noted a record 16 Panthers players scored at least one point in a quick comeback win—five goals in 11 minutes.

    "That's five goals in 11 minutes." —Stugotz [03:44]

  • Rebounding Issues for the Heat:
    • Without Bam Adebayo, the Heat plummet from best to second-worst in defensive rebounding percentage.

      "With Bam, they're the best; without him, they're the second worst." —Stugotz [03:25]

    • Bam’s skillset is described as “unusual” and not really teachable, drawing comparisons to Andre Drummond and Mitchell Robinson.
  • Barkov Injury Discussion and Returning Timeline
    • Mario Cristobal cited for hopeful return, but skepticism about timelines ("athletes always think they'll beat medical estimates").

      "There’s never been an athlete born who didn’t think he was going to be back from injury quicker than maybe his team doctors did." —Jeremy Fowler [05:05]

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Parenting Fiascos: Lollipops in the Oven

• Dianna Russini's Household Chaos:

  • Shares a viral audio clip of morning mayhem, with kids yelling about dinosaurs and lollipops, and one (Joey) wrestling with the oven (where lollipops are hidden).

    [Clip plays, kids yelling: "Joey, off the oven. What do you want? ... Lollipop. No lollipops."] [07:00]

  • Why Lollipops in the Oven?
    • Dianna explains the witching hour (“4 to 7, 7:30...they just turn into monsters”) and her tactic of hiding treats in the oven because "otherwise they find ways to get to the candy."

      "We don't use that oven...there are lollipops in that oven. That's why he was asking for it." —Dianna Russini [08:24]

    • She concedes it's risky if someone turns on the oven, referencing a family mishap where storing birdseed in a grill led to a fire.

      "My dad ... puts the birdseed in the grill ... My husband came home, turned it on ... the grill was destroyed." —Dianna Russini [11:18]

  • Debate: Who’s at fault, the birdseed-hiding dad or the grill-user dad?
    • Arguments over the logic (or lack thereof) of hiding things in ovens and grills.
    • Dianna: "Who puts birdseed in a grill?" [12:24]

• Poll Questions for Listeners

  • "Do you know anyone who puts lollipops in the oven?"
  • "Have you ever used your oven for storage?"
    —Stugotz [13:38]

• Jeremy's Fun Animal Fact

  • “Deer know how to open a gas grill..." —Jeremy Fowler [14:00]
  • Gets brief derision and laughter from the crew.

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NFL Talk with Dianna Rossini

• Eagles and NFC Hierarchy

  • Dianna touts the Eagles, saying they could return to the Super Bowl even with offensive issues, due to an elite defense.

    "They could win the Super Bowl despite the offense not being that good, if the defense is able to play like they did against the Lions." —Dianna Russini [18:04]

  • A.J. Brown is NOT the only frustrated Eagle with the offense.

• The Buffalo Bills' Roller Coaster

  • Hard to explain the team's week-to-week swings.

    "We’re back to the same point we’re at every year ... Josh Allen is doing incredible things." —Dianna Russini [19:48]

  • This NFL season is unusually open: 10–12 teams could make a Super Bowl argument.

    "I think the New England Patriots are a better team than the Buffalo Bills right now." —Dianna Russini [21:19]

• Belichick's Coaching Future

  "The Giants have so much respect for Bill Belichick, but they have never considered him in the past and they're not going to ... I don't know of an NFL team that has Bill Belichick on their list." —Dianna Russini [22:15]

• Surprise Playoff Teams

  • Dianna singles out the Houston Texans as a legitimate playoff dark horse, citing their improving offense and stout defense.

    "It’s the Texans ... they’re finding themselves at the right time." —Dianna Russini [23:16]

  • Trend of defenses carrying lesser offenses (e.g., Broncos, Eagles, Steelers).

• Rookie QBs and Patience Debate

  • Discussion on whether Shadour Sanders should be starting for the Browns; Dianna says patience is warranted.

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Rapid-Fire Sports and Randomness

• Jalen Hurts and ‘Quarterbacks Get the Credit’
  • Stugotz lists big names Hurts has beaten.

    "Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott ... Patrick Mahomes twice. That’s crazy." —Stugotz [30:56]

  • Dianna: "This is why you can’t count them [the Eagles] out." [31:09]
• Chiefs Outlook
  • Dianna: "I actually think this Chiefs team is slightly better than last year." [32:19]
• Justin Herbert and Justin Fields Takes
  • Dianna defends Herbert, blaming O-line injuries, and says Fields is unlikely to be an NFL starter again.

    "His offensive line is essentially Joey and Mikey right now." —Dianna Russini [33:08] "You very rarely get this many chances ... I don't think Justin Fields will be in New York." [33:35]

• Death of the U.S. Penny?!
  • The team riffs on the end of penny production.
  • Dianna: "So now ... the value of the penny is worth a lot more." [34:34]
  • Jeremy: "It costs 3.7 cents to make a penny." [34:49]
• Sam Darnold's Perpetual Pumpkin Status

  "[With Darnold] it’s not the throws he makes, it’s the ones he doesn’t in these situations ... I think he’s just got to keep proving himself." —Dianna Russini [35:02]

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Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot Banter

• Greg Cody Explains The Paper Voting Process
  • "You have to return that envelope in the mail by a certain date. I look forward to it every year." —Greg Cody [37:09]
• Newcomers Debated: Anyone Worthy?
  • Names like Cole Hamels and Matt Kemp come up ("should be in"), but most are seen as just “happy to be nominated.”
• Ryan Braun’s Infamous Lie
  • Group recounts Braun’s steroid denial—one of the boldest lies in sports.

    "He made me believe him ... nobody would lie that way." —Dan Le Batard [45:45]

  • Calls back other big sports lies, e.g. Rafael Palmeiro, Lance Armstrong ("Lance Armstrong would like a word." —Greg Cody [42:42])
• Recommendation
  • Film: Screwball, Billy Corben’s documentary on South Florida’s steroid scandal.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parenting & Lollipop Hiding:

  "Every parent is sweating right now. Every parent has been there." —Dianna Russini [08:48]

• On Family Problem-Solving:

  "Who puts birdseed in a grill?" —Dianna Russini [12:24]

• On Defense's NFL Importance:

  "If your defense can help carry you, you can win some of these games." —Dianna Russini [23:58]

• On Football Narratives:

  "This is why the Eagles narrative is ... peculiar. They keep winning, they keep beating good teams." —Dianna Russini [31:09]

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:44 | Panthers' 5-goal rally, Heat rebounding woes | | 07:00 | Dianna Rossini's viral audio clip: chaos with Joey & Mikey | | 08:24 | Dianna explains hiding lollipops in the oven | | 11:18 | Birdseed-in-the-grill household fire story | | 18:04 | Eagles’ playoff odds & defensive prowess discussion | | 19:48 | Bills inconsistency and Josh Allen analysis | | 22:15 | Belichick and the Giants job rumors debunked | | 23:16 | Texans as dark-horse playoff team | | 30:56 | Jalen Hurts, list of star QBs he’s beaten | | 33:08 | Justin Herbert’s struggles linked to O-line issues | | 33:35 | Justin Fields’ NFL starting future in doubt | | 34:34 | Death of the U.S. penny, economic jokes | | 35:02 | Sam Darnold’s repeated letdowns discussed | | 37:09 | Greg Cody on the Hall of Fame ballot process | | 45:45 | Dan's reflection on Ryan Braun's landmark lie |

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Episode Vibe & Tone

• The episode is a vibrant, offbeat mix of deep NFL takes, Miami sports analysis, and hilarious, relatable family chaos.
• The hosts and guests riff with playful sarcasm and good-natured ribbing, especially when it comes to parenting and sports media cliches.
• The recurring theme: chaos is "normal" in both sports and family life.

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Summary for New Listeners

You’ll get:

• A deep dive into the sports stories that matter (to the Dan Le Batard universe), NFL and Miami sports included.
• Laugh-out-loud parenting stories (including “oven as lollipop safehouse” wisdom).
• Spirited, unsparing critiques of NFL quarterbacks, coaches, and Hall of Fame balloting.
• Witty banter, playful polls, and a readiness to turn everyday mishaps into sports metaphors.
• Insights from Dianna Rossini that balance humor and reporting savvy.

Skip the ads—catch the chaos, confessions, and candid sports talk.

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Transcript

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[Stugats]

I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Levatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Jeremy Fowler]

This just in. Hurricanes football coach Mario Cristobal is now reporting that Alexander Barkov may be back as early as as late February. That's big, big news.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, from a reputable source it is.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Wow. Got a lot on his plate trying to get in the college football play up, but yet he's talking to Barkey. Good for him. Go, Mario. You go, boy.

[Stugats]

Diana Rossini is going to join us here in moment. Just a couple of cleanups here from what we were talking about involving the Panthers and the heat. So 16 players, a record for the Panthers had at least one point in the win last night. They scored five goals in an 11 minute span going down to nothing at the end of the first period to the beginning of the second period. So that's five goals in 11 minutes. And also that Khalil Ware experience last night I don't think is recreatable because they've lost the offensive rebound battle in eight straight games and with BAM in the lineup, they're the best defensive rebounding percentage in the league. Without Bam in the lineup, they are the second worst in the league. I don't think that's a matter of effort. And will, I think that BAM has a skill set that is unusual. I don't think that that is taught. I believe you can either offensive rebound the way Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond do or you can't. And I do believe there is a lot of effort involved with that, but I don't think that Ware's problem, there is an effort problem and I'm not sure how much of that is learned.

[Greg Cody]

So typically we think of offensive rebounding as one sort of skill, which is a hunter skill. You go out there, you run, you're getting through those lanes. Defensive rebounding is more positional based, it's more iq, it's more also communal. So I'm boxing out sometimes not so I can get the rebound, but so my teammate can get the rebound. So if you are a guy, typically you'll find guys who are good offensive rebounders and poor defensive rebounders are the ones who are really athletic, long arms and like hunting the ball, but aren't so good at the positional stuff.

[Stugats]

You want to hear spo detail what Sasha Barkov told him in the training camp video confirmation? Yes, sure. All right, Greg, give it a look. Come on. You know, I see those kind of.

[Don LeBatard]

Possibilities with Bam, but everybody else, it's.

[Stugats]

Inspiring to see that and it is heartbreaking, you know, to see him in crutches. But then you talk to them and you say, oh, no worries, I'll be back in five or six months. And you know, I love that spirit.

[Don LeBatard]

I'm sure their medical staff will be seven to nine.

[Stugats]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I love that guy. I Love everything he's about.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That backs up what I know it does.

[Mike Ryan]

In that clip, you hear them say the team said seven to nine. They never said out for the year like you said.

[Jeremy Fowler]

They said. Okay, first of all, there's never been an athlete born who didn't think he was going to be back from injury quicker than maybe his team doctors did. I don't know about that. I think that's common. I think that's the fighter spirit. That's what you want from your athlete. But SPO at the end of that, also said, well, I don't know what his medical team might think about that. In other words, yeah, he could be just being optimistic. Just to be optimistic.

[Greg Cody]

Of course, the doctors would like a word is basically what SPO is saying, what Greg is saying, what I'm backing up. Because 7 to 9, by the way, that lands you in April, right? October, November, December, January, February, March, April. That's seven months, right?

[Stugats]

So when the playoffs start.

[Greg Cody]

So if he's back, it's gonna be.

[Stugats]

Awesome when he comes back in February.

[Greg Cody]

Well, you know what? According to Mario Cristobal. But if he does come back prior to seven months, understand maybe you guys ask some questions as opposed to, oh.

[Stugats]

This is so amazing.

[Mike Ryan]

In Greg's defense, Greg never said what SPO said that Barkov said. Greg said that the Panthers said that it was going to be seven to nine months. So it doesn't matter what SPO said that Barkov said. It's what Greg said.

[Jeremy Fowler]

We got a major penalty on Jeremy.

[Stugats]

Five minutes for being Jeremy. You're having a rough day.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Well put.

[Stugats]

Jeremy Senior, NFL insider for the Athletic and the host of the Scoop City podcast. He's working so hard day and night. Like, literally day and night. He's on the Heat broadcast talking to Ron Rothstein. He comes in here in the morning. It's unfair what we do to him, but he can't stop being Jeremy. Diana Rossini, as I mentioned, insider for the Athletic and host of the Scoop City Podcast. Always lovely to see her her kids less so. So explain to me what it is that's happening here, Diana, where we are in the process of getting you a Santa that you can use in a threatening manner on your kids. What's happening here with your kids that you put on Twitter? Let's see this sound of kids wailing Please.

[Diana Rossini]

Joey, off the oven. What do you want? What are you looking for? I don't know where your allosaurus is. What are you looking for? Lollipop. No lollipops.

[Stugats]

This is chaos.

[Mike Ryan]

That was great.

[Stugats]

It's just monsters. You could not write it up better than that. That was just art. Let me just see all of that again, because I don't. What is the Asaurus? I want two kids there. By the way. There are two kids. One of them's playing with the oven, which is not something you ever want.

[Greg Cody]

I think one of them was asking for Jose Suarez.

[Diana Rossini]

Joey, off the oven. What do you want? What are you looking for? I don't know where your allosaurus is. What are you looking for? No lollip.

[Mike Ryan]

And the kids are in pajamas, so it's clearly either breakfast time or dinner time. Not a time for lollipops.

[Stugats]

Before we get into the meat of this, though, just please, one more time at the beginning. I just want you guys to see this. What devil monster does this with the oven? The oven has to be secured from the inside because look at. Look at Joey just pulling like a total maniac demon on the oven for no good reason, because he just wants to break the oven. Like, what is it? What's in the oven?

[Diana Rossini]

Joey, off the oven. What do you want? What are you looking for? There's gonna be allosaurus. I don't know where your Allosaurus is. What are you looking for? Lollipops. No lollipops.

[Greg Cody]

Everyone knows the lollipops are in the oven.

[Stugats]

Dan, what's happening there? Diana, please explain.

[Diana Rossini]

Every parent is sweating right now. Every parent has been there. So that day I was on the show with you guys, and, you know, I was trying to explain to you the witching hour and the gu show that had kids, all, like, everyone had the same look, which is like, if you're a parent, you know what witching hour is. And it's between the hours of usually 4 and 7, 7:30, and they just turn into these monsters. Like, just the fact that. Just look at. Mikey's asking for a colosaurus and an allosaurus, which I don't even know what the. What they. What they are. He can name all the dinosaurs. And then Joey's like, well, I don't really know what I want, but I'm going to. I'm just going to go for it. I want lollipop. You know, there is something there that I feel like I have to defend, Jo. So you're right. Like, he was pulling on the oven there. And if you notice, the oven is locked, right? Like, as you. As you noticed, I. We don't use that oven. So there are lollipops in that oven. That's why he was asking for it because he knows they're in there, but it's tinted so he can't see. But he's seen me put the snacks in there to just hide from them. So, look, every parent's been through it. I am certainly one of a million gazillion people. But, like, that was my way. I tweeted it just at you so you could see. Like, this is what I'm talking about. You can't explain it. They're just out of their minds. And I gotta tell you, I had so many people reaching out after that video of just like, dude, I know. It's okay.

[Commercial Voice]

Wait a minute. Diana, you're using your oven as storage?

[Stugats]

Yeah. Isn't that where everyone keeps the kid treats?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I am. Because we have two. We have one on the top and one on the bottom. And the one on the top. We use the one on the bottom. We never do. So we just use it as. As like a little candy stash spot. So they can't get to it because otherwise they find ways to get to the candy.

[Stugats]

Why wouldn't you stash it in the one in the top and use the one in the bottom?

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, that does make sense. Now, look, we've had this problem before where. Because the thing you should be asking is, what if somebody turns that oven on? Like, we got a problem. So my dad likes to take care of the birds in our backyard for us because we don't to anything. And he's like, you guys have this beautiful birdhouse. Like, I'll come over during the week and feed the birds. Like, he's retired. He's got nothing to do, obviously, so he thought it would be smart to take the. This. By the way, this was a gigantic issue in our family, and I want your thoughts on what you think. He took the bird seed, the bag of birdseed, that big plastic bag you get at Home Depot, feeds the birds, then takes it and puts it in the grill because he didn't want the deer or other animals to eat it. My husband comes home from work, always does the same thing, Runs outside, turns the grill on to warm it up to get dinner ready, and runs back in the house.

[Stugats]

So you got fried bird seed as what?

[Diana Rossini]

No, no, no.

[Greg Cody]

Popcorn. Right.

[Diana Rossini]

A beautiful grill that was destroyed because it caught fire and it burned through everything. And we. It was a whole thing. So my parent. My father's perspective was not like the normal person, which is Kevin. I'm sorry. Like, that was a dumb move. Who puts bird seed in a grill? He was like, what idiot doesn't open the grill to check before you turn it on? So we have had this like six month debate in our family of who was in the right here. And I would love your thoughts. Do you think Kevin was in the wrong for just running out there and turning the girl on and not looking? Because why would there be birdseed in there?

[Greg Cody]

Diana, do we have the same dad? That's my takeaway. Because that's exactly the type of thing my dad would do.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, like, the thing is, he made Kevin feel terrible about it. Like, and Kevin questioned himself. He's like, is it actually unsafe that I didn't open it? I'm like, you probably should check, but it's just you using the grill every night. Like, I get why you didn't look. Because again, who puts birdseed in a grill?

[Commercial Voice]

Diana, do you have a garage?

[Diana Rossini]

I do.

[Commercial Voice]

So why is the bird seat not in the garage?

[Diana Rossini]

Great question. Say that to Ricky Rossini.

[Greg Cody]

Don't say that to my dad.

[Diana Rossini]

Does things all the time that make no sense. And then he's just like, well, that's your fault. Yeah, he needs a job.

[Stugats]

I don't think, though. I think that that was actually smart of your father. But he needs to tell somebody that he did that. Like, he doesn't. There's another step there. You do want to keep it away from the deer. You don't want birdseed just around. So now you've got an animal problem.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, well, the deer and my sons out there anyways. Maybe that bird. Seeds for the boys, actually. But. But if you think about it, now that you know, you're refreshing my memory of the issue that we had with this. It is stupid for me to keep the lollipop bag in the bottom oven because we just experienced what it's like to do that.

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show, do you know anyone who puts the lollipops in the oven and also put on the poll. Have you ever used your oven for storage?

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yeah. The other thing I would mention, just parenth. Deer know how to open a gas grill. Like, deer will smell what's in there and then use their long snout to open the lid like that. I've seen it happen.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Jeremy Fowler]

Oh, yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

When did you. Craig, stop.

[Jeremy Fowler]

No, deer, they, you know, they, they. They're not ambidextrous or anything, but a deer. Picture the long deer. It gets under the thing.

[Stugats]

This is bib. The hood of them growl is kind of heavy.

[Diana Rossini]

Let's hear them.

[Stugats]

They're lying. Let's Hear them out.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, dear.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Thank you. Thank you. That was excellent. Oh, that was perfect. The timing, folks.

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[Stugats]

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[Jeremy Fowler]

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[Don LeBatard]

I said all we've said all.

[Commercial Voice]

He said all that everyone has heard.

[Stugats]

First time I heard any of this. Greg, everything you're saying, it's all been said.

[Jeremy Fowler]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Jeremy Fowler]

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[Stugats]

Me maximum. This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats. Give me a bigger story this weekend, Diana, than the Chiefs. Loser.

[Diana Rossini]

The Philadelphia Eagles beating the Detroit Lions despite the fact that they seem to just produce during dysfunction. Like, there's so many stories about what's going on there and they don't care. Their defense stepped up and I would argue that what they're doing right now, they could win the super bowl despite the fact that the offense is still not even that good if the defense is able to play the way they did against the Lions, who I think we can all agree, a very good NFC team. I think we're going to see the Eagles in the super bowl again.

[Stugats]

Oh, but not without lane Johnson. They're 12 and 23. When he doesn't start and you told us last week he's the most important.

[Diana Rossini]

Player they'll get to the. He'll probably miss the regular season, but he'll. They'll get to the playoffs. If you look at around all the NFC teams, Philly, to me is the least one I'm concerned about, about where they play. Like, they, they travel well. They're fine, you know, whereas obviously the Lions, Jared Goff needs to play indoors, right? He's better indoors because what we saw on Sunday night just, I think we saw a lot of weaknesses there. So they're going to try to get, you know, the first seed there. But I think for Philly, they'll be all right. But you're right, like, yeah, they need Lane Johnson. They need a healthy offensive line. They need a better run game. That entire offense needs to improve, you know, and I reported recently that there's definitely players on the offensive side of the ball that are really frustrated with the way this offense looks. And this is not just A.J.

[Mike Ryan]

Brown.

[Diana Rossini]

Right. A.J. brown's been the most vocal, but I think this entire team wants to see this offense be a little bit more dynamic than it's been.

[Stugats]

Can you explain to us the Bills of the last month, like, how. How and why does all of that happen? And if the Bills don't win that conference this year, when are they going to win that conference?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I don't know. But if they're able to do what they just did, they're going to be okay. Which, obviously, what do we always say about Buffalo? It's on the shoulders of Josh Allen, and I think we've all kind of been annoyed by it or at least run out of patience with it, because it can't always be on his shoulders because, look, they're not in the Super Bowl. But we're back to the same point we're at every year with. With the Bills, which is, Josh Allen is doing incredible things. He's making it work. The defense is playing fine, and he still doesn't have a lot of health. I mean, the fact that they were able to beat the Bucks, to me, tells me that they're way more dangerous than I think that we were expecting them to be this season, because I thought this was gonna be a down year for the Bills.

[Stugats]

But how do you explain the specifics of what I just asked you, which is, they go. They beat the Chiefs.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Then they lose to the Dolphins. Can't get much of anything going offensively. And then they go back home and they beat Tampa. And they beat Tampa in a way that they're. You know, the quarterback has a performance that you've never seen before from a quarterback. And is that just home and road? Like, what is that like?

[Diana Rossini]

It's just home and road. We know that they're great at home like that, that's for sure. I can tell you from talking to people in that building that morning, they were nervous about that game. Buffalo. Right. Because I think they think of themselves the way you just described, which is pretty up and down. Right. They haven't been able to just grab hold of this thing and stand out consistently this season. But I think we're seeing.

[Mike Ryan]

Think.

[Diana Rossini]

I kind of think that this has been the theme of this year. Right. Where usually this time this year, what are we saying to each other? All right, Patrick's gonna probably be in the super bowl again. Jalen probably, you know, we'll throw one or two that could possibly be in there. And Josh Allen's usually in there, too. With the Bills this year, we could argue any 12 teams, 10 teams could be in there, right? The Colts are making case. The Rams are making a case. The Seahawks still are going to be very good despite the fact that they lost to the Rams. There's still a lot of unknown of who's truly incredible. The New England Patriots. Could they be the ones playing in the super bowl, like, right now? I think the New England Patriots are a better team than the Buffalo Bills. We'll see if that changes because they've got some losses on defense right now in New England, but I just don't think it's as clear as it usually is this time of year.

[Stugats]

Diana, did Belichick have any shot at that Giants job?

[Diana Rossini]

No. It's so interesting because I was talking to people in New York on Friday and I was going to report on Saturday that, you know, the Giants have so much respect for the New York. The Giants have so much respect for Bill Belichick, but they really have never considered him in the past and they're not going to consider him in the future. That is just not something that they want to do moving forward. And then Bill out of nowhere puts out that statement like, like, yeah, I have no interest in the Giants. I don't know who was saying it at that point. Like, he, I don't know if that was Jordan reading social or what. But yeah, the Giants have. Have no interest in Bill Belichick. And I don't. Guys, I don't know of an NFL team that has Bill Belichick on their list as a potential candidate for an NFL job.

[Jeremy Fowler]

When you look at the surprise teams in the league like the Panthers and the Jaguars, what's the borderline playoff team that. That you're sold on that you think might actually be in the playoffs and win a playoff game?

[Diana Rossini]

Game, yeah. That can actually not turn into a pumpkin.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yes.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm going to eat this one. It's the Texans, right. I. I think they're finding themselves at the right time. It seemed like there was way too much change initially, Right. You had a new play call or you had new players on the offensive line. All the excuses in the world. And I hate to say it, but they needed a little time to figure out what they want to be, and they're figuring that out now. That being said, it is interesting right now that this is Davis Mills, right. The backup quarterback, who's helping this offense look better. Who's helping them look good. So I am. I mean, look, they're going to see when C.J.

[Stugats]

Their defense is great. Their defense is great.

[Diana Rossini]

Isn't that the theme of this season right now, right. Look at Denver. Denver's not winning that game if their defense isn't what it is against the Kansas City Chiefs. The Philadelphia Eagles aren't beating the Lions without their defense. Defense. So if you, if you can rely on that, the Steelers have been, have been victims to that. If your defense can help carry you, you can win some of these games. This is what Minnesota was hoping for as well. Right. Like they thought. All right, we got this young quarterback who needs a little time, but we'll keep it simple. We've got a great defense. We'll get by five games in, and it's not five games in with JJ and it's not good.

[Greg Cody]

Diana?

[Diana Rossini]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

On August 27th, I outlined the chador plan. I said, look, here's what's going to happen. Flacco is going to start. He's going to be terrible. He's going to get out of there. Then they're going to give to Dylan Gabriel. He's going to stink. And then Shedeur is going to get it because people are going to be clamoring for him to save the day. Now, here's what happened in the first half of that game. They were actually chanting, we want Shador because Dill Gabriel was playing so poorly. But then he got concussed and actually Shadour gets in the game. I felt it was premature. Had Dylan Gabriel not got concussed, how much longer do you think it would have taken for the Browns to turn to Shadur Sanders?

[Diana Rossini]

Long? All season. I don't know if they were trying to get him in there. You know, we've talked about this on the show a lot, about how they feel about his ability to play the position. They've been preaching patience. He needs more time. He needs to learn how to play quarterback in the NFL. He's not there yet. And you're certainly not getting the reps that you should be getting in order for that to happen. Right. Because that, that's the only way you can get better. Now, I don't know if Shador is doing what I've seen a lot of backup quarterbacks do, which is so practice ends, you take the script and you run through it again with another backup quarterback or a wide, you know, somebody to help you out, but that's still not the same. And I think Kevin Stefanski proved his point. Right. Did anyone watch that? And go, They've been holding him back. No, you watch it. And you went, okay, there's some talent there for sure. But he, he's going to need more coaching. He's going to need more reps in order for him to go out there and start. And that's. And that's okay. So I don't think the Browns plan here is to stick with Shador Sanders for the rest of the year.

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[Stugats]

Don LeBatard, are you on the fan right now?

[Diana Rossini]

Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever gonna go back to espn? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on tv, all those years and now you write. Who reads that?

[Stugats]

Stugats.

[Diana Rossini]

Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic. What you on YouTube.

[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. Roy, get ready to speed her up. But one of the more impressive talking.

[Diana Rossini]

So fast today, it's not because of you.

[Stugats]

It's not because I think you're doing well. It's not, it's not. It's not a criticism of you. We're just going to speed you up at the end of the segment like we do to get a maximized information during your limited time with us here.

[Diana Rossini]

Here.

[Stugats]

But one of the most impressive quarterbacking things I've seen when we always give the quarterback credit for winning is Tom Brady on the road going in the playoffs on the Tampa Bay Bucks, through Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. But I'm going to give you a partial list on what it is. Jalen Hurts or who it is Jalen Hurts has beaten the last two years. You ready for this? Because we always give the quarterbacks credit for winning.

[Don LeBatard]

Correct.

[Stugats]

It's Joe Burrow. It's Lamar Jackson. It's Dak Prescott. It's Baker Mayfield. It's Jared Goff. It's Jaden Daniels twice. It's Jordan Love three times. It's Matthew Stafford three times. It's Patrick Mahomes twice. That's crazy. Diana.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. This is why you can't count them out. This is why the Gila narrative is, is, is a little peculiar and also difficult to argue because they're winning, they're beating good teams. But you have so many star players. You know what the Philadelphia Eagles are. They're the example of during free agency or even the draft when we always say they've got too many stars, how are they going to, how are they going to share the ball? This is what happens, right? Not everybody's happy, but you are happy when you're, you know, spraying champagne all over each other in the locker room in San Francisco.

[Mike Ryan]

Diana, will the Dolphins have the same.

[Stugats]

Amount of wins as the Chiefs after this week?

[Diana Rossini]

No, it's not even possible.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, they're on a buy after next week. Damn it.

[Diana Rossini]

No, but if you guys remember last week I said that the Dolphins have a chance to win the Super Bowl. What if I turn out to be right? What if they make a deep playoff? You're not what happened?

[Stugats]

You're not right. You're not going to be right.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Could be.

[Greg Cody]

Have some help.

[Diana Rossini]

You are negative.

[Jeremy Fowler]

He really his.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm a believer.

[Mike Ryan]

Will Daniel Jones out duel Patrick Mahomes and the Colts beat the Chiefs?

[Diana Rossini]

No, I, I don't think so. I think at the end of the day, guys, this may be. You may not agree. I actually think this Chiefs team right now is slightly better than the Chiefs team we saw last year and they played in the playoffs. Like they've got a good run game, they've got good receivers. They just don't have have luck on their side right now. Right. If you saw last year they were winning those one score games. They're over five and one score games this year. So I just think they need things to just fall their way a little bit. So in relation to the Colts, I think, I think Patrick Mahomes, an angry Patrick Mahomes who says after the game it's all his fault. That's not going to happen again.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Is it time to call out Justin Herbert as looking like a career underachiever?

[Diana Rossini]

No, no, no, no. No, no, no.

[Jeremy Fowler]

What's he won? What's he won?

[Diana Rossini]

His offensive line is essentially Joey and Mikey right now. He doesn't, he's, he's not being protected, you know, and, and look, look what was, what this team was when everyone was healthy. We were talking about Justin Herbert finally living up to the hype. So. No, I, I don't think he's going to be a bus. I think, if anything, they're going to continue to be really good as they, as they keep growing and building that program.

[Greg Cody]

Diana, has Justin Fields worn out his NFL welcome?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. And you say wore out your welcome, Really? I think what you're asking is, is Justin Fields ever going to be a starter in the league again? No, I, I, I. You very rarely get this many chances. Right. This is his third stop. We saw him in Pittsburgh a little bit. Look, he's a, he's a good person. He's a great teammate from everything I know. Unfortunately, we saw what the New York jets did, and then they decided Tyrod Taylor is going to take over moving forward. Forward. This is a team that's got a gazillion picks over the next two years. They're going to be in the quarterback market. And unfortunately, Woody Johnson just spent a lot of money on both Aaron Rodgers and another 40 million on Justin Fields, who probably won't be in New York.

[Mike Ryan]

Jet. How do you feel about the death of the U.S. penny?

[Diana Rossini]

What happened to it?

[Stugats]

They're not making it anymore.

[Diana Rossini]

They're just tired.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Like Penny's dead.

[Diana Rossini]

Like, they're just like, we don't care about you anymore.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yep. Costs too much to produce. Pennies still in rotation will be fair trade. You can still use the pennies you have, but they're no longer making new pennies. Big, big story.

[Commercial Voice]

Wow.

[Diana Rossini]

So we're gonna have to just recycle the same one. So now actually, I'd argue the value of the penny is worth a lot more because now if I see one.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm gonna make sure that, that I keep them.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Right.

[Don LeBatard]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

I don't really like that excuse. They're just. It's too expensive to make. There's a little irony in there now.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yeah. Supposedly it caused like 3.7 cents to make a penny.

[Diana Rossini]

So find four pennies and you'll be good.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Stugats]

Very good. Donald. What, Diana, what did Sam Donald's performance mean on Sunday?

[Diana Rossini]

That I think we still are questioning whether or not he can handle the pressure. Right. They won 14 games with him last year and he turned into a pumpkin in the end there. I think this was a good test for him and we were all hoping that, that maybe, maybe, just maybe, it's not necessarily about the, it's not the throws that Sam Darnold makes, it's the ones he doesn't in these situations. I think that makes you wonder and I think that's what we saw against the Rams. And they, that defense figured him out. They knew how to put him in these positions. So I think he's just got to keep proving that he can get out of that hump.

[Greg Cody]

Diana, how many years away are we from an NFL game in Jerusalem?

[Diana Rossini]

20.

[Mike Ryan]

Diana, how much would you guess the average human's skin weighs?

[Diana Rossini]

8 pounds?

[Mike Ryan]

Double that.

[Stugats]

She's the NFL insider for the Athletics. He's the host of the Scoop City podcast. Diana, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it as always. We will talk to you next week.

[Diana Rossini]

So if I want to lose weight, just skin myself pretty much.

[Stugats]

That is correct. If you want to, if you want to lose 18 to 20 pounds, that is correct.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Who needs ozempic?

[Stugats]

You can also just remove your small intestine. I have in front of me a list that annually Greg Cody gets very excited and honored that he gets sent to his house by old fashioned mail so that he can mail in a ballot old fashioned style. It's not even something you do on the Internet, right? I think the hall of Fame, you probably can do it on the Internet. But I'm guessing that you as a 71 year old man still lick a stamp and send in your Baseball hall of Fame ballot.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yeah, it's not from the hall of Fame. It's from the Baseball Writers association of America which does the voting. And it is literally a self addressed stamped envelope that you get in the mail.

[Stugats]

Oh, so you don't have to lick a stamp. It is licked for you by Jeff Idleson, the president of the Baseball hall of Fame. He licks it and he sends it to you. So he's making it as easy as possible.

[Diana Rossini]

Right.

[Jeremy Fowler]

I'm not sure who saliva is on the stamp, but I can say that you literally are not allowed to do this by email. You have to return that envelope in the mail by a certain date. And I look forward to it every year. I do great research and I come.

[Stugats]

Up with a boffo when he says great research. He asks his sons, Michael and Chris who he should vote for this year's nominees. It is a week later list of candidates. I only see one. These are the newcomers, by the way.

[Mike Ryan]

There are other people on the ballot.

[Stugats]

These are the newcomers, right? These are the newcomers. Ryan Braun, Edwin Incarnacion. He has trouble with that name at a minor league game. See if you can find Greg Cody. Having trouble with that name at a minor league game. Why'd you skip Shinsu Shu Geo Gonzalez? I didn't. I've got 10 other names to get to here. I haven't skipped it. I haven't skipped it. It's still. You went right, boy. Skipped it. I'm getting to it. I've got got 12 names in two names. I shot 12 comers here. And you what? You attacked me after I said list in front of me. I've got a different list in front of me. You got the special list. I've got a special Dan Leardard list sent to me. My Jeff Idolon with Jamar Chase's saliva. Show us the list.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Asian Bias.

[Stugats]

Alex Gordon. Cole Hamills. Matt Cap, Howie Kendrick, Nick Marques, Daniel Murphy, R. Rick Purcell, Hunter Pence and I don't think I mentioned you're really out of order. Gio Gonzalez. There was no order. It's just 12 newcomers. It's alphabetical order. You guys are doing it alphabetically. I'm not doing it alphabetically.

[Mike Ryan]

There are two names on here I.

[Stugats]

Think should be in. I don't believe I saw two names on here that I would put one.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That has a slim chance.

[Stugats]

Go on.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Cole Hamill.

[Stugats]

That's the one I got. Yeah, I think I, I, I, I'm.

[Mike Ryan]

Going to say Matt Kemp, but I know he didn't have the, like he should be hall of Famer.

[Stugats]

You look at him in his peak. No, Fl.

[Mike Ryan]

That's just a guy that you looked.

[Stugats]

At him at his peak.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, this guy should be a Hall of Famer. I know he's not.

[Stugats]

I'm just saying that guy. What a career let down that was at the end.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Well, the other thing is, and I've tried to explain this in the past with me, there's a difference between being a Hall of Famer and being a first ballot hall of Famer.

[Stugats]

I don't want to do this again with you. I'm not interested in.

[Greg Cody]

This is a fun game.

[Stugats]

No, it's a, it's a boring or first. I'd like some new opinions, not some recycled, refreshed opinions.

[Jeremy Fowler]

They're vital. Every year they renew themselves.

[Stugats]

Who did you vote for?

[Jeremy Fowler]

I haven't voted yet. I haven't got my.

[Stugats]

You said, you said you do meticulous research. Have you started doing it yet?

[Jeremy Fowler]

No, I literally just got Those names yesterday.

[Mike Ryan]

Who's the person on here that's just excited to be on this list? Rick Presello, Right?

[Stugats]

I mean, that's a. What is he doing on this?

[Mike Ryan]

Howie Kendrick.

[Stugats]

Come on. Nick Marquez. Daniel Murphy. Yeah. Howie Kendrick. Howie Kendrick.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Ridiculous.

[Greg Cody]

Ryan Braun's going into the UPS hall of Fame. He framed the FedEx delivery guy, right? So UPS is like, Ryan Braun. He's good in my book.

[Stugats]

Was it the FedEx guy that he complained about? I thought he complained about the urine guy. The guy who came to his house and took the urine sample is the one that he contaminated.

[Greg Cody]

I thought it was the FedEx delivery guy who took the sample and was supposed to deliver it. He said, oh, he's the guy who probably messed it up.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm on it.

[Stugats]

Okay, Jeremy, you will get us the factual. What a Whopper. Remember? Yeah, that is one of the great Whopper press conferences of all time.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, look, I was doing Mad Dog Radio at the time, and I was like, this guy. You know what? Everyone's upset. Let me applaud him, man. This is one hell of a ballsy liar, man. This guy went to great lengths and extremes to say, look, I didn't do it.

[Mike Ryan]

ESPN November 27, 2013 From Milwaukee brewers outfielder Ryan Braun said Wednesday that he's, quote, made amends with the collector he accused of mishandling his urine sample, which produced a positive drug test as part of Major League Baseball's Biogenesis, this doping scandal. So it is indeed the urine collector.

[Stugats]

That was one of the amazing press conferences of my lifetime in sports, because I will tell you that his conviction was such. And he leaned into it so much that he made me believe him. He's won Palmeiros, too, right? I mean, Palmeiro shaking his finger at Congress was certainly strong. But the Ryan Braun press conference, See if you guys can find a condensed version of that so that I can show the people what a giant lie this was. And I will again recommend the movie Screwball, the documentary that Billy Corbin made. I don't know if you guys have yet seen. I have not yet watched it because I was told on HBO Max that Alex Rodriguez had an editorial hand in Alex versus a Rod, the quote, unquote documentary that is on HBO Max. The real true story of what an incredible clown show the biggest baseball steroid era was that came through South Florida with Ryan Braun through tanning salons and just strip mall clinics is so laughable. It's so funny. The amount of incompetence that went into Manny Ramirez and a Rod And Ryan Braun just going to the local strip mall. And there's so many of these in South Florida, so many of these anti aging clinics. The amount of incompetence would make you aghast to know that this was not some systemic multimillion dollar science experiment with people who were doing very smart things. It was just a unfathomable clown show. So I urge you to find screwball wherever it is that you get your documentaries by Billy Corbin.

[Greg Cody]

Now, Dan, respect to your nominations of Ryan Braun and Rafael Palmeiro, but Lance Armstrong would like a word. He destroyed people's careers to make that lie live on forever.

[Stugats]

I'm not with you with the Lance Armstrong stuff. What? Yeah, you know what? He raised an incredible amount of money for cancer research.

[Greg Cody]

He destroyed people's careers, but he's trying to save lives. No, he wasn't. First of all, Livestrong was not about curing cancer. It was just about making cancer patients more comfortable.

[Stugats]

Pretty good thing.

[Greg Cody]

Good thing. Thing good thing. Also he was a piece of not only cheating, but destroying people.

[Stugats]

All right, hold on. Exhibiting the behavior. Sorry, sorry. In fact. No, wait a minute. Your apology's not good enough. We're gonna have to know. What you just did there is not acceptable. So I'm gonna have to minor penalty. Two minutes for a contribution.

[Jeremy Fowler]

How about allegedly a piece of.

[Stugats]

I. I just think the Lance Armstrong thing is complicated.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think it's very cut and dry.

[Stugats]

Well, but what he was saying is just the adamants and the defiance of the lie. How bold faced the lie was. And it's a good call by him when he says Lance Armstrong would like a word. Because Lance Armstrong was absolutely defiant in a way that made a lot of people believe him and feel all the more betrayed because they believe the strength with which he argued his position. And he did ruin people, which he did for several years. Like he was adamant in a way that. That's a good call by a mean. That was stronger than the one press conference that Ryan Braun gave on a field. I think he was on a field in Milwaukee. And. And we're gonna get that sound for you.

[Mike Ryan]

But he also did behind the scenes apparently. And I forgot this part called Dino Lorenzi Jr. Who was the man who handled the urine sample. An anti Semitic Cubs fan.

[Stugats]

It was pretty good.

[Mike Ryan]

Using them of both being an anti Semite.

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And a Cubs fan.

[Don LeBatard]

Which would make him hate Ryan Braun more.

[Mike Ryan]

I actually think the Cubs fan cause Ryan Braun half Jewish, full brewer.

[Stugats]

Well, we gave him half Jewer, full brewer. No, he Brewer, Hebrew, Hammer. Yeah, we called him the Hebrewer. And I thought that that was one of the great nicknames of all time for Ryan Braun. Anti Semitic, Cubs fan. Yeah, Louis. Poor Lewis, because our computers just went down there. While Roy was trying to find the Encarnacion sound of Greg Cody at a min league game, the computer went down and so poor Lewis is going through what I believe was like a 14 minute Ryan Braun press conference and trying to edit it down into two quick minutes. But I do. I could not look after covering sports for as long as I have. I would say that generally I'm skeptical. I can be cynical. I'm not always naive, though I can be. Ryan Braun changed my opinion because my reaction to his press conference is nobody would lie that way. Nobody would lie that strongly if they had him. And they had it.

[Don LeBatard]

Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.

[Don LeBatard]

What are you doing here?

[Stugats]

Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Don LeBatard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Stugats]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Don LeBatard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.

[Don LeBatard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all.

[Commercial Voice]

Cuervo.

[Don LeBatard]

Cuervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Proximo, Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.