The Big Suey: Mike Throws a Knife at Pat Riley (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Mike Throws a Knife at Pat Riley (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude)

Date: September 25, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This jam-packed "Big Suey" episode delivers classic Le Batard crew energy: part sports deep-dive, part offbeat banter, part pop culture, and all-around lively chaos. Special guest Roz Gold-Onwude joins to dissect WNBA coaching drama, social media stardom, and Coachella lineups. Meanwhile, the usual suspects spiral into knife-throwing debates, mock demonstrations, and escalating in-studio antics—culminating in (fake) peril for a cardboard Pat Riley. The crew also unleashes hot takes on Bill Belichick’s personal life, viral TikTok memes, and the unique ways they greet people from afar.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Great Knife-Throwing Debate

Timestamps: [02:02–05:05]; [22:23–24:44]

• The crew fixates on the proper technique for throwing a knife: blade or handle first?
  • Billy Gil (03:22): “You want to be throwing this from the handle. So if you have an actual throwing knife, you want to be throwing from the handle. It's balanced in weight. So for every step you take away, that’s about one rotation."
  • Mike Ryan pushes back (04:02): “He said throwing knife. I don’t care about throwing—no. If you’re talking about a kitchen knife or hunting knife... you lower your hand on the handle.”
  • Roz (02:28): "It comes from the stomach. It's a gut thing."
  • Multiple crew members attempt demo throws—first with plastic knives, then scissors, in increasingly absurd and chaotic fashion.
  • Dan Le Batard (27:00): "Dan, you are crazy. This is a liability."
  • Stugotz (27:05), after a hit gone awry: “...I’m worried that they definitely hit him in the dick. There are so many knives being thrown.”

Notable Moment

• Mike allegedly throws a knife at “Pat Riley” (a stand-in; no real danger), which incites collective panic and laughter.

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2. WNBA Coaching Carousel – The Sandy Brondello Firing

Timestamps: [05:08–09:55]

• Roz Gold-Onwude reflects on the abrupt firing of Liberty head coach Sandy Brondello just months after bringing NYC its first WNBA championship.
• Roz (06:05): “She also had a lot of adversity... injuries to Liberty starters... surprising… but this happens all the time in sports. You might think, ‘good coach,’ but maybe they're thinking this isn't the coach that takes us to the next level.”
• Stugotz notes American sports context (07:38): Rare to see champs dismissed so quickly, unlike international soccer.
• Crew rattles off historic quick firings (Larry Brown, Budenholzer) but agree Brondello’s leash was especially short.
• Roz: “It really puts a lot of pressure on them too, to get this right. That New York Liberty job is a cushy job.”

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3. WNBA Physicality & Officiating

Timestamps: [09:55–10:56]

• Roz (09:55): “It is more physical than usual in the WNBA this season... critique of reffing... so many skirmishes... Speaking of physical, it’s the Phoenix Mercury who bring the pain in these playoffs... bully ball.”

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4. Why Isn't Asia Wilson the Biggest Star?

Timestamps: [10:56–16:25]

• Asia Wilson, a four-time MVP, isn’t the W's most-followed or pop-culturally transcendent star.
• Roz (11:28): “Asia’s on the way to a resume that will put her as the greatest of all time... being the best is not correlating with being the most recognized yet.”
• Social media following stats: Angel Reese leads with 5.1M, then Caitlin Clark, Paige Bueckers—Wilson is fifth.
• Roz expands (15:36): Women’s popularity is shaped by more than greatness: “...who’s the coolest, who’s the funniest, who’s the most intriguing... That’s why the WNBA is so important—just the diversity of women that can shine.”

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5. Angel Reese Drama in Chicago

Timestamps: [19:39–22:16]

• Chris Cote (19:39): “What do we make of what's going on with Angel Reese in Chicago right now?... She comes out, she says a lot of things… after just two seasons, if an NBA player did this, we'd be giving it a side eye.”
• Suspended for half a game for “conduct detrimental.” Roz and Dan discuss the oddity of WNBA fines ($200 for Caitlin Clark), the league’s personality-based drama, and how stories and relationships (Bam Adebayo presenting Asia Wilson’s MVP award) add to the league’s charm.

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6. Coachella Lineup Reactions

Timestamps: [24:24–26:13]

• Mike Ryan (24:36): "Coachella lineup is very confusing... Strokes, Nine Inch Nails... but the headliners are Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, and Carol G. It doesn't make any sense."
• Dan and the crew reminisce about festival-going, appreciating the genre collisions, and Roz recalls big Stanford crew weekends at Coachella.

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7. Bill Belichick’s Relationship and Media Backlash

Timestamps: [32:05–36:41]

• Chris Cote (32:17): “Is there a bigger hypocrite in sports than Bill Belichick?”
• Crew debates how the legendary coach, once obsessed with limiting distractions, is now seen “kissing his much-younger girlfriend on the sideline” while his team struggles.
• Chris (34:58): “They got their butts kicked and he’s on the cover of Us Weekly. Belichick again.”
• Mike Ryan (35:40): “You think the odd thing about Bill Belichick right now is that he's on the cover of Us Weekly and not that he’s there with someone that he met when they were probably a teenager?”

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8. The Viral “Six Seven” Meme

Timestamps: [38:34–39:56]

• The show puzzles over the “Six, Seven” phrase their kids keep saying.
• Billy explains: Origin is a Lamelo Ball clip (“I don’t know, 6’7”), got sampled in a song, became memeified on TikTok. Now it’s just a catchall number joke—“doesn’t necessarily mean anything.”
• Quick riff on how the Ball family became cultural icons for young people.

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9. Daily Ray Hudson Dance & Call of the Day

Timestamps: [40:13–42:42]

• The crew erupts into rhythmic chanting of “Ray Hudson” in honor of the legendary South Florida broadcaster.
• Hudson’s signature call is shared and celebrated:
  • Ray Hudson (42:51): “This is a match just aerial goal of the highest order... finished with the coolness of a greyhound’s nose.”

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10. How Do You Greet People from Afar?

Timestamps: [43:02–45:17]

• The crew confesses self-consciousness about greetings—do you head nod? Two-finger wave? Peace sign? The “shaka”?
• Billy (44:49) claims pointing gets the best reciprocation, tested across Miami’s metro rail system.
• Mike Ryan (44:31): "You will not throw that by the blade."
• The bit devolves, as always, back into challenging Billy to prove his knife-throwing honesty.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Roz Gold-Onwude (06:05):
  “First and foremost, respect to Sandy Brondello. Gratitude. Thank you, Flowers. She also had a lot of adversity that was outside of her control this season... I think it's surprising. But this happens all the time in sports.”

• Dan Le Batard (13:31):
  “Asia has transcended culture in a way I don’t think any player in the WNBA has—even Caitlin Clark.”

• Stugotz (27:05):
  “...I’m worried that they definitely hit him in the dick. There are so many knives being thrown. I think it was a bit pathetic right there.”

• Mike Ryan (35:40):
  “You think the odd thing about Bill Belichick right now is that he's on the cover of Us Weekly and not that he’s there with someone that he met when they were probably a teenager?”

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Segment Timestamps

• Knife-throwing debacle: 02:02–05:05; returns 22:23–24:44
• Roz Gold-Onwude & Liberty coach firing: 05:08–09:55
• WNBA offseason, physicality, personalities: 09:55–16:25
• Angel Reese in Chicago: 19:39–22:16
• Coachella lineup: 24:24–26:13
• Belichick, media, and Us Weekly: 32:05–36:41
• Six Seven meme: 38:34–39:56
• Ray Hudson Dance: 40:13–42:42
• Long-distance greeting rituals: 43:02–45:17

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Tone & Language

• Signature irreverence and self-deprecation
• Segues veer from sports wisdom to sheer, joyful chaos
• Roz Gold-Onwude brings measured, informed analysis with warmth and humor
• Healthy balance of running bits and honest insight

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Summary

This episode showcases everything “The Big Suey” delivers at its best: expert sports discussion (especially on the state of the WNBA and its stars), unfiltered opinions, and the sort of spontaneous group-chaos (plastic) knife-throwing that’s made the show an institution. Whether you came for Roz Gold-Onwude’s basketball brain or to find out who’s getting called a habitual liar for knife-throwing methods, it’s a uniquely satisfying ride. If you missed the live show: Asia Wilson still runs the W, the only answer to knife physics is “check YouTube,” and never let this crew anywhere near sharp objects—or Pat Riley.

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cote]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Stugotz]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

[Dan Le Batard]

I've done it.

[Chris Cote]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Stugotz]

We will get to Roz Gold on Woo Day in a second. She's the host of GoodFollow. You should follow, listen and subscribe to GoodFollow on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Did you guys get an answer? I think Tony's right. I don't like saying it. I'm sorry to be saying it, but I do think you throw a hunting knife by the blade. Roz, do you have any opinions on this? Do you know how you throw a hunting kn if you Wanted to make sure to embed it in the wall across from you. How would you throw a hunting knife?

[Dan Le Batard]

It comes from the stomach. It's a gut thing.

[Stugotz]

I need you to elaborate, and I need you to.

[Billy Gil]

What do you mean by that?

[Stugotz]

You're going with a stabbing. You're doing a stabbing.

[Billy Gil]

She's doing it straight from the stomach.

[Stugotz]

I want to embed it in a wall across from me. How do I throw it? How do I hold it?

[Mike Ryan]

What's the point for the gambit technique.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's like breathing. You know, you gotta breathe out of the stomach, and it's like most athletic motions come out of the knees, and then, like.

[Billy Gil]

Walking us through the whole. It's like breathing, Dan. It's like breathing.

[Stugotz]

It's not coming from the core.

[Billy Gil]

You gotta breathe.

[Stugotz]

Don't throw a hundred.

[Billy Gil]

The process starts there.

[Dan Le Batard]

From the. From the core. And. And the knees. Don't forget to keep your knees bent.

[Stugotz]

This is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Many a strength and conditioning coach would tell you that.

[Billy Gil]

Solid base.

[Stugotz]

Check with YouTube, Jeremy, and get back to me.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, I have. I'm a master now. I've watched two YouTube videos, and I know exactly how this is done. So Louis confirmed that Tony's right. So according to two masters of the Internet on YouTube, you want to be throwing this from the handle. So if you have an actual throwing knife, you want to be throwing from the handle. It's balanced in weight. So for every step you take away, that's about one. One rotation toward where you want to be. So you get four rotations if you're four steps away from your target. What you want to make sure of, Tony. What you want to make sure of is release it. When you release it, you want to be just in front of your face, but you don't want to flick your wrist because that could throw everything off. So you just want to release it from right here. You just want to release it, like, right there. I'm going to. Right there. Jeremy. Flick of the wrist.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Billy Gil]

Flick of the Charlie.

[Mike Ryan]

That's wrong.

[Billy Gil]

That's wrong. I'm going to tell you where Jeremy's wrong already. He said throwing knife. I don't care about throwing. No. So you have totally different things. So if you're talking about a hunt, say you have a kitchen knife or a hunting knife where it's not. Did you watch.

[Mike Ryan]

Any typo knife?

[Billy Gil]

What you want to make sure that you do is you lower your hand on that handle.

[Dan Le Batard]

I. I actually also needed further clarity on what kind of knife it was. Me, too. Yeah, that was an Issue.

[Billy Gil]

No butter knife.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wasn't clear.

[Stugotz]

I don't know the difference between a hunting knife and a throwing knife. What? Is it a magician that pops like a magician?

[Billy Gil]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Is the one that you kind of.

[Billy Gil]

No. Any knife becomes a throwing knife once you've thrown it.

[Mike Ryan]

That is an excellent point.

[Billy Gil]

That's a good point.

[Mike Ryan]

I send a message when I'm throwing a knife. It's the Rambo knife. It's too long.

[Billy Gil]

What about throwing stars? That's only blade. So you don't really have an option.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, that. There's only one technique there. Well, two. Overhand, and then.

[Stugotz]

So when. When did we. So they're ninja. Are they called ninja stars?

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Billy Gil]

Dan, apologize.

[Stugotz]

I didn't say they were Chinese stars. I said they were ninja stars.

[Billy Gil]

He's right. You're right about that. You're right.

[Mike Ryan]

They're Guardian stars.

[Chris Cote]

What?

[Stugotz]

Roz, I don't understand. What happened to your beloved Liberty? They sent you a ring and then immediately started losing in the playoffs and firing coaches.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my gosh. That's right. Guys, I got a ring. Remember we had all the ring talk. Oh, I should show you it. I have it with me.

[Stugotz]

But anyway, let's see it. Where is it?

[Chris Cote]

Welcome to cl.

[Stugotz]

Go ahead and get it. We'll wait for you. We. We've got.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just kidding. I don't have it. I. I think I left it in someone. You know, I should. I have great gratitude to Sandy Brandello. You know, she was part of bringing that championship to New York. You know, I was so fortunate to get that ring partly in huge part for her efforts. Did you guys think it was a short leash? Like, after just winning the championship?

[Stugotz]

Well, was there any indication that this was going to happen? I felt like there was legitimate.

[Chris Cote]

Remember at the press conference a few days ago, sitting next to the former coach, Brianna Stewart was asked by a reporter, do you think your coach should keep her job?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. And Stewie kind of was like, what the f. And look, first and foremost, respect to Sandy Brandello. Gratitude. Thank you, Flowers. She also had a lot of adversity that was outside of her control this season. There were so many injuries to Liberty starters throughout the season. They barely had practice. They barely had continuity. So I think, like, it was surprising. And I do think, though, that if you were looking for reasons why the Liberty might have done this, given the amount of talent that they still had throughout the season, there were just a lot of. A number of games where they had head scratching losses, where a lot of games where they had urgency issues. Effort issues. They talked about it, the coach talked about it, the players talked about it. And you saw it happening over and over. They got beat down a couple of times at Barclays. There were significant wins they couldn't come up with. And I think, you know, maybe an executive staff is looking at that and thinking, is the team prepared? And they're, you know, are they squeezing out as much as they can of the potential of this team, given the talent that they have? And you look at some other teams, they've had injuries, too. They've had lesser rosters and perhaps have had slightly. I'm not even going to say. I'm not even going. I think it's fair to say have had more inspiring seasons than the Liberty did. And maybe just. They're saying first round exit is not the standard. You know, I just. I think it's surprising. But this happens all the time in sports. You might think, good coach, but maybe they're thinking this isn't the coach that takes us to the next level.

[Stugotz]

Oh, but I'm not sure it happens all the time. Jeremy, can you please look up for me coaches that have been fired so soon after winning a championship? I'm sure there's a list of them, but usually you get more grace if you've won one championship that you're not fired the next postseason. That's not. That's not a normal thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

So I guess. I guess to clarify that, it would be that in the NBA, we've seen a number of coaches who could be a season removed if that from coach of the year. And, you know, they've been let go or they haven't been renewed. But I do think winning the championship the season before in the history of the franchise, in the history of the wnba, it was the first ever championship. You know, it's a 28 years to get there. The Liberty had gotten close, but did not get over the hump. And to get that, you know, and then. And two years in a row she made the finals, missed the championship the first year, second year comes back, wins it. This year falls short in the first round. But, you know, one could say there was a lot of adversity. So it was surprising New York, but what it says is like New York is upping the ante, you know, that they. It really puts a lot of pressure on them too, to get this right. But I think that New York Liberty job is a cushy job. They could pick. It could be anybody who comes in there. I should men's coach, women's coach.

[Stugotz]

I should make the correction. It's not something I see happen often in America. It is something that happens internationally in soccer quite a bit. But Jeremy will find for us the, the, you know, the short leashes that we've ever seen from champions in sport.

[Billy Gil]

A couple of examples, Larry Brown with the Detroit Pistons. They were already fed up with Larry Brown before.

[Chris Cote]

He was only coaching for two years.

[Billy Gil]

They went to the championship and then he ended up with the Knicks. Soon after you got Mike Budenholzer who only got two more seasons with the Bucks after winning a championship. Obviously Mike Malone who we mentioned and then in colle football Gene Chisik won a national championship at Auburn. And then after two more seasons, at the end of the second season they lose 49 nothing to Alabama in a bowl game and he's gone.

[Stugotz]

So you guys though the examples you gave me were two seasons. There's not a lot of talking about months here. You're talking about that she wins the championship and months later is fired. It didn't even last a full year after that because they were knocked out in the first round. That is a bit crazy. Becky Hammond says the physicality in the playoffs is out of control. Do you agree with that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I said let him play, you know, like let's get it. But it is more physical than usual in the, than in the WNBA this season. We're hearing that more and more from the players and the coaches and I think overall there's been critique of reffing like consistency in the WNBA this season and also refs keeping control of games. There's been so many skirmishes. Remember that Indiana Fever Connecticut sun game where the girls, you know, Sophie Cunningham was dragging J.C. sheldon down the court like wrapping more consistent reffing could have, you know, nip that in the bud earlier. So I just think we're hearing a lot about physicality but more what I'm hearing about is consistency overall. Speaking of physical, it's the Phoenix Mercury who bring the pain in these, in these playoffs and like that's what they did against the link, the links to come back down 20 and get the win and split the series 11 against the top team in the league here by playing like Bully ball, being physical and tough.

[Stugotz]

Do I have it wrong when I say that Asia Wilson is obviously without question four time mvp, the best player in the league and you can make an argument best player in league history when you got four MVPs given the quality of play right now, Do I have it wrong when I say though there are a lot of People who transcend the sport and get into pop culture more than her. That, that her excellence does not merit the stardom she has not gotten the she deserves, given how much better she is than everyone else.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I'll start with the first part of that. I think that's a really good question. The first part is Asia's on the way to a resume that will put her as the greatest of all time. If you just talk about being decorated, you know, this is a four time mvp. I think like three time defensive player of the year. She's multiple time WNBA champion, She's a college champion, she's Olympic gold medalist. You know, she's an all star all these times. Like she's won every award you can really get. And there's also the eye test. She's wildly dominant. You know how you just watch some guys and you're like, nobody can stop this person. Like Asia's impact on both ends, her, her motor, her, the way she moves, her skill on top of her athleticism and speed, there's not much like that elsewhere in the wnba. Like, there's no woman moving like that. So is right now you can argue that she's the best player of this generation for sure right now, given her resume. Does her notoriety match that? I think Asia's a star. Like she's got all the things right now. You know, she's, she's got her family, she's got her man, bam. Out of bio. She's got her signature sneaker, she's got a statue, she's got her candle, she's got a book. You know, she's out there. I think I am the target audience. So I'm in an echo chamber. I feel like I hear about Asia, but I do think like transcending. She's not as. When you look at the list of biggest social media followings, Asia is not in the top five. I don't believe I know she's in the top ten. But oftentimes you'll see like the biggest stars in the world often have the biggest followings. Right now that's being reserved for Angel. Reese by far has the biggest social media following of WNBA players. After that it's Caitlin Clark, then it's Paige Becker. So it's this new generation of girls. I think Sabrinaski was right there. Skylar Diggins, they're, they're around like 1 million something. And your pages and your Caitlyn's are around like closer to 3 million or 2.5 or 3. And angels up around 5 million. So no Being the. Being the best is not correlating with being the most recognized yet. And, you know, I think there could be more commotion for Asia Wilson. I really do. I think she's. And I think she's. I think she's a star personality on top of being a star.

[Stugotz]

No, I think you're right. I just am not sure that she goes tough. That if I said to people outside of the wnba, give me the top five stars in the NBA. Five names. Give me five that you love. I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

They'd say Asia. They'd say Asia. People know Asia. Am I wrong about that? Guys, do you feel like you would be able to say Asia Wilson's name?

[Stugotz]

I do, but I'm not sure that we've been following her from college the way. I mean, the fact that you're saying Angel Reese when Angel. The reason for Angel Reese's fame, even though she's great, is not team success, and it's not necessarily individual success. It almost. It has almost nothing to do with marriage polarizing.

[Chris Cote]

That's why. Mm.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's. That's part Angel.

[Chris Cote]

Angel.

[Dan Le Batard]

Angel has transcended culture in a way that I don't think any player in the WNBA has, even Caitlin Clark. But I actually just pulled it up. Boardroom posts a lot of cool lists, and they have one of the most followed WNBA players. And it's Angel Reese at 5.1. Caitlin Clark, 3.6 million. Paige Becker's 2.9, Sabrinascue 1.5, Cameron Brink. Cameron Brink, 1.4. Then it's Asia Wilson. So she's tied for five at 1.4. Sophie Cunningham. The best thing that ever happened to her was going to the Indiana Fever. She skyrocketed to 1.3 million. Haley Van List. So this is clearly, you know, not about being the best in the world. Haley Van Lif is a rookie who struggled for minutes this year with Chicago 1.3 million. Kelsey Plum, 1.2, and then Skyler Diggins and Jewel Lloyd tied for around 1 million. So that's the top 10 list according to boardroom and popularity of WNBA players. But I also think this is part of being a woman. Like, I also think there are so many things that make women dynamic and, like, can make you interesting or command attention or, you know, make you compelling. You know, being a mother being. Look at the stud buds. It's. It's certainly not always about who's the hottest. It's also sometimes about who's the coolest, who's the funniest, who's the most intriguing and like stud buds are skyrocketing in attention. The two girls with the pink hair, they're doing Vogue and I think that's very important because we don't often see two black masculine stud lesbians being centered in pop culture. So that's why the WNBA is so like important. Just the diversity of women that can shine.

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[Billy Gil]

For five minutes I was watching everyone just like, nope, not letting you in. Not letting you in. So when I got up there I had to say something and I said it. Cheaters never prosper. St My buddy was saying, not today. Yeah, but you're not today. I think that was what he was adding. Yeah, that was so bad. I'm telling you, the response I got from this guy, what I said was amazing. Cheaters never prosper. This guy yelled as angry as he could. I ain't cheating. This is the D?

[Chris Cote]

Ler show with the St. Roz what do we make of what's going on with Angel Reese in Chicago right now? She gets suspended with a few games remaining in the season. She doesn't play the final few games after that. I I understand she was dealing with an injury too, and the team was, you know, one of the worst teams in the league. But she comes out, she says a lot of things in that article. A lot of things. Which, by the way, she's probably right about. But she's only been in the league for two years. The team's been terrible both those years. If an NBA player after two seasons on two terrible teams is talking about possibly having to do what's best for them in their future and maybe asking out at some point, like we'd kind of be greeting that with a side.

[Stugotz]

Suspended for conduct detrimental for things she said about her team for a half.

[Dan Le Batard]

Game at that Dan, in your experience as a half game expansion, interesting or unique or weird?

[Stugotz]

I don't understand some of the punishments. I don't understand a $200 fine for Caitlin Clark and I don't understand a half game suspension.

[Mike Ryan]

Did she target someone in college football?

[Dan Le Batard]

Mari Porter situation, the wnba? Sometimes the WNBA is so funny. And Caitlin Clark, you know what? She is so funny to me, not to everybody. She's one of those people that I think like if you are supporting her team, you might find her funny. If you're on the other team, you might find her annoying, but. But, like, you know, her doing, you know, make after the league, find her for $200 for, you know, row on the bench. And for her to post that publicly and almost, like, scoff, like, $200. Like, baby, I'm not. I'm a multimillionaire. I have a $30 million Nike deal. I have to laugh because I'm like, caitlin knows who she is. You know, Like, Caitlyn ain't afraid of this. Like, Caitlyn knows her power. She knows her stick. She's, you know, I like personalities. I tend to. I like that. I like everything that angel is. I love that angel is just fabulous handling her business on and off the court. A mogul. I love that Caitlyn's, you know, kind of funny, kind of jerky, kind of will stick it to, like, I'm here for it, you know? But that's why I like the wnba, because there's so many cool stories and personalities, you know, Think about, like, even. Even the love stories. Like, only in the WNBA does your partner get to bring out your MVP award. Like, how cute was that for Asia when Bam did that, you know?

[Stugotz]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

You didn't even think it was cute.

[Stugotz]

I did. I was. I, I, I said yep a couple of times. You didn't hear me because you were too busy talking about how cute it was.

[Billy Gil]

Well, yep was just, you know. Yep. Come on, just be excited. He was excited. We just found out you throw a knife by the blade.

[Stugotz]

Yep. That was my, that's my enthusiasm. I'm a famously repressed person. Like that. That was, that was, that was a volcano of emotion from me.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's see your form, Billy.

[Billy Gil]

I love how we found one Internet video where a guy's holding the blade and we're, like, up. It solved it. Well, no, that's Cincinnati Lou. That's a fan of the show, who's out here sending us a video proof in real time. Here's how you do it. You hold it by the blade. You throw it. You know what? I'm convinced I was wrong. I thought I was an expert after two, just because he did it. That's big, right?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

That's big of you to prove that you're wrong.

[Mike Ryan]

Tony. Go for it.

[Billy Gil]

So you get, you get it here, right? Obviously, you have it here. What you got to do is you grab it up. Where's here?

[Dan Le Batard]

Whoa.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

Dan, you know what's the biggest reason that you. You throw the blade by the blade and not the handle.

[Stugotz]

Aerodynamics I thought it was the weight of the handle allows it to spin in a way because the blade weighs less than the handle.

[Chris Cote]

Aerodynamics.

[Stugotz]

I thought it was physics.

[Billy Gil]

None of that knife was stuck so far, though.

[Chris Cote]

Like.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, there wasn't a lot of good.

[Billy Gil]

This is a plastic knife, so it's tough to, like. Do we have any cream cheese? When you have. Here, you get it ready, Right? If you're. If you're really in a pinch, you can kind of do one of these where you're sideways. Oh, my God. Pinch. Am I in?

[Stugotz]

All right, this is.

[Billy Gil]

Why am I in a pinch? One more, one more. Here. Wait, you're throwing too long. Go ahead. Stop throwing this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is that a pen or a plastic knife?

[Stugotz]

It's a plastic.

[Chris Cote]

That's not a knife. That's a knife.

[Billy Gil]

In case you're in a pinch. In case you're in a pinch, you got to do it quick.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait. That's a scissor.

[Billy Gil]

All right, Mike, this is getting too ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a second.

[Billy Gil]

How do you get that?

[Mike Ryan]

I do like the French method, which is more like a.

[Chris Cote]

Like you're fencing.

[Mike Ryan]

If you've ever seen Rob Roy.

[Billy Gil]

My name is Anil Montoya. She was. She wasn't French.

[Chris Cote]

Who speaks?

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys look very experienced with these nines.

[Mike Ryan]

Many people tell me this.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think she's being sincere.

[Stugotz]

She is the host of Goodfollow. You can follow, listen, and subscribe to Goodfollow on Instagram. No, don't do it to Pat and YouTube.

[Billy Gil]

Chris, get out of the way.

[Chris Cote]

Do not throw that knife at Pat Riley.

[Stugotz]

Sharp knife at Pat Riley. Do not do that.

[Billy Gil]

Don't do it.

[Stugotz]

That's just.

[Billy Gil]

Do not do this.

[Stugotz]

Do not do that. Roz is a big music fan. Mike is our resident music person around here. What do we feel, Mike, about the Coachella lineup? How are you feeling about that?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, Dan, the Coachella lineup is very confusing to me because, like, if you look like the small font acts really good, you got the Strokes, a Nine Inch Nails, project, Disclosure, Clips. Turns out Interpol, Iggy Pop, David Byrne, Devo Foster, the People, Young Thug. That's an amazing lineup. That's like, pound for pound, one of the greatest. But then the headliners are Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, and Carol G. It doesn't make any sense.

[Stugotz]

Roz, any thoughts here?

[Dan Le Batard]

I like the Justin Bieber. I thought he had an unexpectedly strong album release, big hit song. I'm rooting for him. He's got a baby. I think he's got a Baby on the way.

[Billy Gil]

Like I'm in on Biebs.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Justin Bieber headliner. I'm in on beans.

[Mike Ryan]

I did like, Bieber's last album. Weird. It's weird with like all the other acts that I listed. I mean, this is like a turn of the century alt rock paradise.

[Dan Le Batard]

Giveon Cascade, Woo. Major laser.

[Mike Ryan]

They're absolute legends in the EDM stuff. Absolute legends. Armin Van Buren.

[Dan Le Batard]

Absolutely. The Sunday tent's gonna be crazy. And I mean, I haven't been able to go as much lately, but for a while there, I went like seven years straight to Coachella with my friends. We used to, like, get a big old house. It was like all the kids out of Stanford we'd go drive from. We drive over or. Yeah, we drive over. And when we were coming from la, we would drive over and get a house and just explore new music artists.

[Billy Gil]

Hang by the pool, throw some knives.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do it over the next day. Throw some knives. It's a great knife throwing day. You know, I love it. But I do think this Coachella lineup is a good bounce back. Oh, the xx. I just saw that disclosure. Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Martin.

[Stugotz]

Also, Roz, good seeing you. Thank you for being with us. We will talk to you soon. I was very disappointed by your lie about the ring. I don't know if you've worn it out yet. I don't know where it is. I don't know where you're displaying it. I was hoping that you would show Zaz what a real ring looks like.

[Chris Cote]

You got a picture?

[Dan Le Batard]

I have picture evidence on Instagram, guys. I just. I had to secure it in my safe in my home. It's quite beautiful.

[Stugotz]

Was a toddler just killed? I saw the reactions in that room. Of a knife.

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's stuck in Chris's leg now.

[Stugotz]

Okay. Something bad just happened. I threw a knife at Pat Riley.

[Mike Ryan]

Why didn't you guys let me do this? I've never done this.

[Billy Gil]

It didn't stick though. Dan. You know why?

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, you are crazy. This is a liability.

[Billy Gil]

You can't morph by the handle.

[Chris Cote]

Right in the groin. Right in the groin.

[Stugotz]

Ras, good seeing you. Thank you you for being with us. Things have gotten a bit out of control here. I'm worried that there definitely hit him in the dick. There are so many knives being thrown. I think it was a bit pathetic right there.

[Billy Gil]

Look at that.

[Stugotz]

To be throwing plastic knives. But I also have great remorse about allowing actual knives to be thrown in the establishment.

[Billy Gil]

I'm more of a Pat Riley.

[Stugotz]

Wait, hold on, wait, hold on.

[Billy Gil]

We're getting out of the way.

[Stugotz]

We're doing something. Billy, we can't. Now you're just throwing scissors.

[Chris Cote]

That one's going to stick you.

[Billy Gil]

You. But give it some.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, all right.

[Billy Gil]

I told him to give us some.

[Stugotz]

Do this to Pat Riley. Oh, my.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you.

[Billy Gil]

Throw it by the blade.

[Mike Ryan]

Throw it by the blade. Dan, please stop. I don't want to do this twice. Look, there's two marks. I don't know why I keep getting them there.

[Billy Gil]

This is dangerous.

[Stugotz]

You can stop doing that at any point. Yes, someone should stop this. Let's. You mentioned that. Let's stop it right now. I don't want to do this anymore. I want to get to Ray Hudson. I'd like some people to produce our show. Please get toward the microphones. Get toward the places where you can help me do a show. Stop being children.

[Billy Gil]

It's the problem. Cause it's Pat Riley. Because we can make a Richard Gere.

[Stugotz]

Please allow me to.

[Billy Gil]

No, that's actually a lot better. Thank you.

[Stugotz]

That hosts the show. That isn't monkeys throwing feces the entire time. Thank you. You guys are so busy with your self consumption that you didn't even hear Zaslow's Crocodile Dundee impersonation.

[Mike Ryan]

I was pissed because I was gonna. Not a one of mine.

[Stugotz]

Not a one of you heard it was good, right?

[Mike Ryan]

I was pissed off because I. Everyone, classic knives. I was going, that's not a knife. That's a knife.

[Chris Cote]

That's not this knife.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Chris Cote]

Don LeBatard if Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

[Stugotz]

Oh, come on.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I would be aggressive description.

[Stugotz]

I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying what?

[Mike Ryan]

That's me. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln and you know what I do Amin stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

[Stugotz]

Lincoln, who you outed the other day.

[Mike Ryan]

Don'T make this a rejoin.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugotz]

Do me the favorite of getting for me the photo of Bill Belichick on the COVID of Us Weekly. I'd like for the people.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Onion.

[Stugotz]

I would like for people to see who is the real Jordan Hudson is on the COVID here with Bill Belichick.

[Chris Cote]

And get the hell out of here. Dan. Look at the Dan. They lost by three touchdowns this week to a Group of 5 team by three touchdowns.

[Stugotz]

Touchdowns in a field goal they lost by.

[Chris Cote]

And he's on the COVID of Us Weekly. Is there a bigger hypocrite in sports than Bill Belichick?

[Billy Gil]

Well, I mean those photos are from the NFL honors.

[Chris Cote]

Who cares?

[Billy Gil]

Do you think that he's talking to the publisher about when to put out the article? I'm sure whenever they talk to Jordan. It was months ago.

[Chris Cote]

Who cares? You're telling me if Bill Belichick said to us Us Weekly or Bill Belichick felt like I don't want to be on the COVID of Us Weekly. We just lost by 24 points to a UCF team. I probably shouldn't be on Us Weekly this week. You don't think that that cover is getting pulled? That they're not doing it this week?

[Stugotz]

They did not participate with the article and they did not do a photo shoot. And you're calling him the biggest hypocrite in sport?

[Chris Cote]

Because, Dan, it's not just in a vacuum.

[Mike Ryan]

It.

[Chris Cote]

We're not just talking about this. Dan. When have you ever seen a player and or a coach while their team is warming up for a game, their girlfriend and or wife is chatting with them on the sideline? Forget that. They gave a kiss too. I know they didn't make out. That was AI. Everybody calm down. But have you ever seen a player or a coach with his wife on the sideline chatting it up while the team is training?

[Billy Gil]

I've seen like videos like Nick Saban's daughter was always on social media. I don't think it's that crazy. For what it's worth, I don't know that we really ever would know just because we're not focused the interaction where they're kissing.

[Chris Cote]

This is a guy who spent his entire tenure with the Patriots not allowing anyone to do anything in the public. Not football related. No distractions. Everybody needs to be a bore. And now which by the way, we've seen when he doesn't have Brady kind of a lousy coach and now he's with you. He's at UNC and he's this big public figure. It's non stop distractions and on top of it his team sucks. His team's two and two. They get smoked by non power four teams.

[Billy Gil]

They are a power four team. I just want to make it abundantly clear you referred to them.

[Chris Cote]

Yes, you're right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Billy Gil]

That's a. That's a Big 12.

[Chris Cote]

I'm sorry. They only have wins again. You're right. I'm sorry. They only have wins against group of five teams. You're right. I'm sorry.

[Billy Gil]

Apologies.

[Chris Cote]

They still got their shit kicked in by ucf. That's the point.

[Billy Gil]

When she shows him this. What like came out today? Do you think she calls it Us Weekly because it just sounds more sophisticated.

[Chris Cote]

They got their butts kicked and he's on the COVID of Us Weekly. Belichick again.

[Stugotz]

They didn't participate in the article. They didn't take the photos matter. He. But he doesn't. I don't think they consulted with him on what they were doing or why they were doing it. And they didn't. They didn't consult with him. Do you mind if we. If we run this as the COVID of the magazine after you've lost at. At UCF 34 to 9.

[Chris Cote]

The biggest hypocrite in all of sports. It really is.

[Billy Gil]

Is next week. Mike McDaniel. Like it is odd. Just a weird thing for a football.

[Stugotz]

Coach to be on the COVID Again. Not his choice. He's not the editor of the Master.

[Billy Gil]

Just put anyone on the COVID Just to be clear.

[Mike Ryan]

You think the odd thing about Bill Belichick right now is that he's on the COVID of Us Weekly and not that he's there with someone that he met when they were probably a teenager.

[Chris Cote]

He's 50 years older than her. Can we be honest for a second too? The whole thing is ridiculous.

[Stugotz]

I think most people would agree with that. But the argument talk about that. I would.

[Billy Gil]

Didn't he say she teaches him things? Does that seem real?

[Stugotz]

I would say the only part of that that seems real is that I can imagine that Bill Belichick hasn't cared about any relationship outside of football that doesn't have anything to do with football in about 50 years. So he might be a bit of a toddler relationship wise.

[Billy Gil]

Who's the last person that taught a 70 year old anything? 70 year olds don't want to learn anything.

[Stugotz]

You just taught Pat Riley something with that knife throwing at his throat.

[Billy Gil]

I didn't throw anything. At Pat Riley.

[Chris Cote]

Just to be clear, Greg Cody drank.

[Billy Gil]

Gatorade for the first time. We taught him Gatorade. Good.

[Stugotz]

Good example.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you, Dan. Can I throw this knife down?

[Stugotz]

I'd like you guys to stop throwing knives for the moment. Not a sentence. I thought I would.

[Billy Gil]

For the moment seems like an unnecessary stand.

[Chris Cote]

This Belichick. You know what? I'm going. I'm in Chapel Hill next weekend.

[Billy Gil]

Chapel.

[Stugotz]

Bill, what are you going to do?

[Chris Cote]

We're.

[Billy Gil]

We.

[Chris Cote]

We thought. We thought UNC Clemson was going to be a good game. All right, so I'm in Chapel Hill next weekend with ESPN Radio. I hate this Belichick so much. I might actually buy a ticket to the game so I could sit in the stands and just boo all game long. Sitting in the press box of the credential. It might not be good enough for me. I might buy a ticket. They'll probably be super cheap. Team sucks. I might buy a ticket, sit in the stands, and amidst the sea of UNC students. I don't care, because I'm not scared. You can't be scared. Everybody knows that. I. I might send the student section and I'm just gonna boo Belichick all game long.

[Stugotz]

No one here believes you. We think it's.

[Chris Cote]

I might do it.

[Stugotz]

We think it's an idle threat. We think that might is doing a lot of lifting there because we don't believe you. No one here believes you. Everyone's looking at you with skepticism.

[Chris Cote]

We'll see.

[Stugotz]

Billy most of all, Billy believes that you're full of shit. The phrase you just used a second ago, getting your shit kicked in. Can someone explain to me that phrase? Because is this so what's happening there? You've got the shit outside your body, and then someone's kicking you in the ass so much that it goes back in your body?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I think the poop go so far up the ass at it. It kicks the. That is presently residing on the precipice of the hole in.

[Billy Gil]

I just thought it was like your face with everything that's on the outside's in now. Like all that shit in $83 right.

[Chris Cote]

Now at game time.

[Billy Gil]

If you want to go to that game.

[Chris Cote]

No, I want to sit in the student section.

[Billy Gil]

What you're going to do, like a 22 Jump street that you're pretending that you're like a student? How do you do, fellow kids?

[Chris Cote]

No, I don't have to be a student to sit in the student section. Hello. Here's my ticket. This is where I'm sitting.

[Mike Ryan]

You have that backwards hat on so.

[Billy Gil]

You'Ll fit right in. I'm a student.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I'm here. I'm here to cheer for Belichick and then swerve yo. When the game starts, they see what I'm really about. And I'm about booing and heckle in the whole game.

[Billy Gil]

Six, seven, swerve, yo. Are you wearing a North Carolina shirt?

[Chris Cote]

No, of course not.

[Billy Gil]

Wear North Carolina shirt.

[Chris Cote]

Rip it off. Swerve yo.

[Billy Gil]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

That's what the swerve is.

[Stugotz]

Chris, what is this six, seven thing that's become so popular now as I get left behind by young people? What? What is this six, seven thing?

[Billy Gil]

I wish I could tell you. I know my daughter's been saying it. I think it means mid. But the kid, you'd have zaz. Do you know, it's probably saying my.

[Chris Cote]

Younger son is non stop with it. Also, he thinks it's the funniest thing. I have no idea what it is.

[Stugotz]

Anyone, can anyone help us?

[Billy Gil]

It's a meme. Six, seven. And you kind of go yes or no, right? But what it is, is basically where it stems from is is lamelo ball. At one point was asked about his height and he's like, I don't know, like six, seven. And then it got sampled in a song and that went viral on TikTok. And now all the kids say it all the time. But it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Like when I was a counselor at the camp that I work at, basically every single time they heard the number six or the number seven, it was just that everybody would just go, six, seven. And that's pretty much it. And you just kind of do the masomenos right here.

[Stugotz]

Masomenos. That's what we're saying with six, seven. And it's because the balls are still popular with young people. The balls introduced an era of sports coverage that was different than most I'd experienced where young people in high school were watching one of the balls play in Lithuania, because the balls, you know, after the Kardashians, the balls were like the sports equivalent to kids.

[Mike Ryan]

It is kind of crazy that Lamelo Ball is 6 foot 7. He's basically Zion size.

[Stugotz]

He's the only reason to watch that basketball team for the last 20 years or maybe longer. Maybe.

[Chris Cote]

I don't even think he's a reason to watch.

[Stugotz]

Maybe the. Well, okay.

[Billy Gil]

Put some respect on a mecha oak force. Nicholas Con canipple.

[Mike Ryan]

Anybody?

[Stugotz]

Let's do the daily Ray Hudson dance, please.

[Billy Gil]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.

[Stugotz]

Ray Hudson.

[Billy Gil]

Car. Ray Hudson.

[Chris Cote]

Ray Hudson.

[Billy Gil]

Ray Hudson. Carl. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.

[Mike Ryan]

Ray Hudson. Carl.

[Billy Gil]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Call of the day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.

[Stugotz]

This is what Dan wanted. This is what Dan wanted.

[Billy Gil]

Want it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Want it, want it.

[Billy Gil]

Get.

[Stugotz]

Best broadcaster in the history of South Florida. Give me a call of his. We're going to do this every day until the World Cup.

[Billy Gil]

It's a double for the Argentine.

[Chris Cote]

This is a match just aerial goal of the highest order. This is a fabulous ball played across with pinpoint accuracy. And it is finished with the coolness.

[Stugotz]

Of a greyhound's nose. Zaslow, how do you greet people from afar? I'm always a little bit self conscious about this close up. I'll give the head nod, but from afar. How do you do it?

[Chris Cote]

Wouldn't you do a head nod from afar? You that close?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, well, just close enough to see me, but a head nod that I'm talking about further away that a head nod. There's a range, range of distance that. That requires some other kind of greeting. I'll throw two fingers up is what I'll do from a distance.

[Mike Ryan]

Peace sign. I'm an ally.

[Stugotz]

I'll just wave two fingers. Though it's not the peace sign by itself. It's too. It's.

[Billy Gil]

It's telling me, get out of the way.

[Stugotz]

Windshield wiper. Two fingers.

[Billy Gil]

I've been doing a very similar thing. Two fingers. But instead of the peace sign, I'm going this. And I don't like it. I do like the.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's this?

[Billy Gil]

Oh, boy. It's a Shaka.

[Mike Ryan]

They take lasers.

[Billy Gil]

It's the thumb and pinky like surfer shocker bra.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a shock abroad.

[Billy Gil]

And it's just like if I'm far away, if I see somebody like. And then I'm always like, what am I doing?

[Mike Ryan]

Put the index finger up your Jay Glazer.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, that is true. I would lose that about you.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, the index finger does help a lot. That's. I love you inside now.

[Mike Ryan]

He does that. He loves. He's all love.

[Billy Gil]

So what I've been doing and I've been. It's 100% satisfaction rate. And I started doing it, I was like, you know what? Because. Because everybody smiles at me when I do it. That's how I know nobody, nobody looks at me. And like, it's like he just lies about things. Okay, give me the knife.

[Mike Ryan]

Give me the knife.

[Stugotz]

I don't think his confidence. I don't think you want me to.

[Billy Gil]

Throw it by the blade.

[Stugotz]

I don't think his confidence is aerodynamic.

[Billy Gil]

You will not throw that by the blade.

[Chris Cote]

You're lying about that.

[Billy Gil]

So what I do is, and this works on the train, obviously I take the train every day and the the conductor of the Metro rail sits at the front of the train, right? So what I do is this. And it's obviously a little bit ways away, maybe 10, 15ft away, but it's worked as far as 30ft. I go like this and I walk.

[Mike Ryan]

By, point at him.

[Billy Gil]

Just a point.

[Mike Ryan]

Like you, you.

[Billy Gil]

I don't say anything else and they point back at me. That's how I know the satisfaction is 100% because they point back. It doesn't matter what he thinks.

[Chris Cote]

Dan.

[Billy Gil]

Who gives a what Billy thinks?

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