The Big Suey: Most Uncomfortable Moment

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: Most Uncomfortable Moment

Date: August 25, 2025

Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This episode centers around the 2025 SUI Awards, specifically highlighting the "Most Uncomfortable Moment" category. The crew — Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg Cody, Billy, Tony, and others — review their awkward, cringe-worthy, and hilarious moments from the past year, unpacking both the joy and deep discomfort these moments bring. The conversation is a mix of nomination clips, voting logistics, and live banter, all delivered in the show’s trademark irreverent and self-deprecating style. The latter half shifts to sports talk (notably an altercation involving college QB Avery Johnson’s family) and analysis of NFL preseason storylines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The SUI Awards: Most Uncomfortable Moment (06:23–23:50)

• The show kicks off the SUI Awards with the "Most Uncomfortable Moment" nominations, featuring an extensive highlight reel of awkward on-air moments from the year.
• Humorous meta-commentary occurs throughout as the crew debates which moments caused the most cringe, why awkwardness is so integral to their brand, and how these moments often go unexpectedly viral.

Notable Nominations Include:

• Jeremy Tache talks weird, gets roasted ([07:04])
  • Jeremy struggles through a question, is mercilessly interrupted, and the crew spirals into jokes about shutting him down.
  • "I've never seen that before, where some dude is talking, doing a thing, and everyone else just moves on…" — Tony ([07:50])
• Chris Cody insults Michael S. Schmidt ([08:02])
  • Chris underwhelms Schmidt by downplaying his stepson’s baseball achievements.
• David Sampson’s Paul Pierce tidbit ([08:57])
  • Sampson reveals, “Paul Pierce likes being called Daddy.” The table reacts with disbelief and jokes.
  • "What kind of contribution is that?... What are you snorting in the middle of the segment?" — Dan ([09:08–09:18])
• Dan disrespects Black History Month with PK Subban ([09:57])
  • Awkward interplay as Dan resists respecting a top five list “because of Black History Month.” The team quickly pushes back, creating a tense/funny exchange.
  • "I will not respect Black History Month… You didn’t even let me get it out…" — Dan ([10:10])
• Dan repeatedly calls Greg Cody "a senile old man" ([10:38])
  • Greg objects and riffs on potential “senile old man” merch.
  • "Next thing I know, old man, it’s going to be on a Levitar T-shirt." — Greg ([11:07])
• Mike Tyson’s existential answer to a kid reporter ([11:39])
  • Tyson: "I don’t believe in the word legacy… I’m a die, and it’s going to be over. Who cares about legacy after that?… We’re just dust. We’re absolutely nothing." ([11:51–12:05])
  • Greg: "Well, thank you so much for sharing that."
• Ronny Chieng doesn’t know Pablo Torre works with Dan ([12:22])
  • Confusion and mock outrage ensue.
• Dan ruins the end of a Larry Charles interview ([15:02])
  • Dan needlessly shares that he, too, has a brother named Dan, then instantly regrets tanking the interview’s conclusion.
  • "I feel like I just ruined everything we just did because of that, as my punctuation…" — Dan ([15:31])
• Dan tries to give away a coworker’s Christmas gift ([18:05])
  • Dan unknowingly offers Izzy’s gift to someone else, then wears the hat in guilt.
  • "Classic guilt hat. How’s that gonna stay on?" — Billy ([18:56])
• Stugotz calls Coach Mike Elko "ugly" ([19:08])
  • Crew debates college coaches’ looks, escalating the awkwardness.
  • "You're not going to win best looking coach." — Stugotz ([19:08])
• Dominique Foxworth begins Kenan Thompson interview with a spicy question ([19:44])
  • Dominique asks about Morgan Wallen and a racial slur, making for a bracing intro.
• Jarrett Payton tells Dan he didn’t recognize him ([21:04])
  • Jarrett recounts an uncomfortable real-life encounter: "He doesn't know who I am…" ([21:16])

Group Reactions

• The group debates which moments are truly the most uncomfortable, highlighting their capacity for both comedy and empathetic embarrassment.
• "That one was hard to relive." — Tony on the Schmidt baseballs incident ([23:57])
• "You can't just let the guy say his brother's name is Dan." — Michael ([24:08])
• Michael singles out "What's the worst part of the life?" as the most viral, if not the most cringe ([24:18]).

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2. Avery Johnson's Family Fight & The Lawlessness of College Football (27:08–33:54)

• Dan transitions to discuss a real-life incident: Avery Johnson’s father and brother getting into a fight in Ireland during a Kansas State football game.
• The show examines the layers of awkwardness, family dynamics, and how these sorts of “family economies” are becoming a symbol for the disarray in college sports (NIL, transfers, etc).
  • "As a symbol, the free for all that college sports has become… The father and a son fighting in the parking lot… Some of this family stuff is just going to leak into our lives here…" — Dan ([27:27])
• The team debates:
  • What age makes a father-son fight "normal" vs. disturbing?
  • How family business, money, and sports fame strain relationships.
  • Whether this type of family drama is emblematic of changes in college sports governance.
• "If it escalated to that with my father… we wouldn't just go back to normal." — Dan ([28:48])
• "He’s got to get a shot at his dad… Not have that be the lasting legacy, getting beat by his father." — Billy ([29:42])
• Tony and Dan go back and forth over whether this is part of broader college football chaos, or just a classic family blow-up with an "Ireland twist." ([31:11–31:50])
• Greg and others riff on the “fairness” of the fight, relative ages, and whether forgiveness or festering is inevitable in family spats ([32:24–33:37])

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3. NFL Preseason & Quarterback Analysis (36:37–43:19)

• Dan reads damning preseason stats for Shador Sanders (Cleveland) and wonders how quickly NFL prospects are judged.
  • "If you don’t have the athleticism of Lamar Jackson, doesn’t work…" — Dan ([38:16])
• Greg and Tony discuss how shifting expectations and offensive line differences can accelerate or delay a young quarterback’s development.
  • "The worst thing (for Sanders) would be to start him immediately and see him stink…" — Greg ([39:30])
• Conversation turns to the changing expectations of rookie QBs: once a longer learning process, now reduced to as little as eight games before fans and teams move on.
  • "The windows now are…eight games…" — Dan ([40:12])
• Tony offers perspective on how new hitting rules may influence young QBs' willingness to hold onto the ball.
  • "This is really the first generation…not really being punished physically for holding onto the ball too long." — Tony ([41:26])
• Ends with Dan and Billy discussing physical size and QB expectations (specifically Josh Allen and Joe Burrow).
  • "I thought he was going to be bigger… Honestly, a little pudgy." — Billy ([42:43–43:19])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan, on the SUI Awards:
  "Any time I hear us recording these around here, something funny reminds me that the last year was a lot better than I thought it was." ([06:01])

• Tony, on group mockery:
  "I've never seen that before… Some dude is talking, and everyone else just moves on with their lives." ([07:50])

• Mike Tyson’s existentialism:
  "We're nothing, we're just dust. We're absolutely nothing." ([12:05])

• Greg Cody, defending his legacy:
  "Next thing I know, old man, it’s going to be on a Levitar T-shirt." ([11:07])

• Dan, reflecting post-interview:
  "I feel like I just ruined everything… by not caring. You have to go. Brother's name is Dan. You have to go for it." ([15:31])

• Billy, on live awkwardness:
  "Classic guilt hat. How’s that gonna stay on?" ([18:56])

• Dan, on family fights and new college sports dynamics:
  "If it escalated to that with my father… we wouldn't just go back to normal… This has to be at least something close to normal for them." ([28:48])

• Tony, on rule changes for quarterbacks:
  "This is really the first generation that's gone through all levels of football not really being punished physically for holding onto the ball too long." ([41:26])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Award Introductions & Nomination Banter | 01:41–06:47 | | Most Uncomfortable Moment & Submissions | 06:47–23:50 | | Reflection on Cringe & Favorite Moments | 23:50–27:08 | | Avery Johnson Family Fight & CFB Chaos | 27:08–33:54 | | NFL / Shador Sanders Discussion | 36:37–43:19 |

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Tone & Style

The episode features the trademark rapid-fire, self-deprecating, and meta-comedic banter that defines the Dan Le Batard Show. The irreverence is balanced with moments of genuine reflection (e.g., family dynamics, Mike Tyson’s philosophy). There’s a comfort with discomfort, and the group intentionally wades into the awkward to find both catharsis and comic gold.

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Conclusion

This episode captures the essence of the show at its best: unpredictable, hilariously awkward, and fearlessly honest. The deep-dive into their “Most Uncomfortable Moments” becomes not just a celebration of cringe, but a window into the show’s culture — one where nothing is off-limits and awkwardness is worn as a badge of honor. Conversations about sports and media, like the Avery Johnson incident or NFL QB development, are approached with the same blend of humor and candor, making for a segment that flows smoothly between categories of discomfort, sports analysis, and comic relief.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Greg Cody]

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan LeBatard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

[Greg Cody]

I've done it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Greg Cody]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Dan LeBatard]

That was excellent.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

You are on fire today.

[Greg Cody]

I mean it, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris, what did you repeat to your father moments before we turned the microphones on? And he did that maximum professionally, right.

[Michael Grayson]

Above that line, he just read, it says billboard draftkings. And I thought maybe he was gonna read that part out as well.

[Dan LeBatard]

And so you told him not to read out loud the word billboard.

[Michael Grayson]

Little last minute coaching, which I probably shouldn't have done. Just let him cook.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you should have. Yeah, you should have let him. Because if he would have read billboard, it might have led to something funny.

[Greg Cody]

There. I might have read it had he not told me that.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think. I think you would have.

[Greg Cody]

I would have thought Billboard magazine was a sponsor of the show. That's all.

[Michael Grayson]

I want the inheritance.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's.

[Greg Cody]

Why.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is there still a Billboard magazine?

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah. I read it religiously. I follow the charts.

[Billy]

What are we looking at in terms of inheritance for Christopher?

[Greg Cody]

I don't think we want to go.

[Billy]

The good question. I want to.

[Michael Grayson]

And what's the split? Do we trust Michael yet? Because at one point, it's like you're just gonna get it all, and you can kind of divvy it up.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, wow. You're the responsible one.

[Michael Grayson]

I am the responsible one.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, boy. No, Christopher, it used to be the responsible. Michael's catching up, really. Michael's gaining ground on that.

[Billy]

Any thoughts on just skipping a generation, maybe leaving it to old Graceland trust or something?

[Michael Grayson]

It'll funnel down.

[Greg Cody]

That's being considered. It'll be a protected, heavily protected trust that Christopher can't get his hands on. But, you know, we haven't gone there yet. We're just thinking about it. It also depends on how nice my granddaughter treats me for the next few years.

[Michael Grayson]

It is a little awkward in that, because my mom honestly does sometimes, like, hey, you know, just will stuff. Just, you know, just in case type stuff. But, like, I've never met. Like, I don't really know as much as I feel like I should know. Like, I feel like if something were to happen to you guys, your.

[Greg Cody]

Your.

[Michael Grayson]

Your money guy could just, like, take me. Take me to the woodshed.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I know you're always asking for, like, an itemized.

[Michael Grayson]

I just want to go to this meeting with you so this guy knows I exist. Like, hey, if something happens to them.

[Greg Cody]

On the face, I'm your guy, and.

[Michael Grayson]

I know how much.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. All right.

[Michael Grayson]

No funny business.

[Greg Cody]

You okay? All right.

[Billy]

Are you all set up? Like, I mean, obviously, this is very morbid. We don't mean to go down, but, like, should an accident happen with both you and your wife, is that all set up? Or is Christopher gonna have to plan, like, the ceremonies and all of that?

[Greg Cody]

In other words, do we have a living will? What does that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you done anything?

[Billy]

Like, do you have plots? Do you have, like, arrangements? You have set sides? Like, does Chris then have to start driving up to, like, funeral homes? And, like, I'd like to find your best place. Squat for two, please.

[Greg Cody]

You know, my wife handles all that. Okay, great.

[Billy]

So no one knows it.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, let me be clear on something here, okay? He is exactly the person who threatens you all his life with not giving you his inheritance and then doesn't handle the paperwork before dying. So I don't believe he's done anything. I don't believe he knows anything. I believe his wife has to handle all this. He hasn't done any estate planning. So what's going to happen after he dies is your brother's going to have his middle name, and the rest of you are going to fight what's over. What's left?

[Billy]

I think what's going to happen is, like, they're going to pass, and then there's going to be, like, the meeting for the will, and no one's going to have remembered the guy's name because no one's met him. So he is going to get everything. He's going to be in an empty room like Christopher Michael Grayson. Where is everybody?

[Michael Grayson]

Anytime I ask about this, my dad kind of is like, what are you trying to. And I'm like, no, I just want to be informed.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're getting old, Greg. These are the conversations I've been having with my father recently. He does not like them either, but you do have to plan these things if you want to make sure your family isn't fighting over your things at the end.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, Yeah, I got to get. I got to talk to my wife about that.

[Michael Grayson]

Luckily for us, my mom started all that, so.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Billy]

But you don't know any of it.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, I have.

[Michael Grayson]

I know. I have a big binder.

[Billy]

Wait, you presently have a binder?

[Michael Grayson]

Yes. Like, can you bring it in tomorrow? Yeah, I'll bring it in.

[Billy]

Bring that in. Let's help you through this.

[Greg Cody]

We're not bringing in the binder right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's in there?

[Greg Cody]

It's a secret binder.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't know what's in the binder?

[Greg Cody]

Secret documents.

[Dan LeBatard]

We should have. We should have an oral contract.

[Michael Grayson]

One of those binders, like the string thing that you close it up with. Very important.

[Billy]

Sounds like you're getting a lot, man.

[Greg Cody]

The dossier.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris deserves to know. All right, I want to talk about Avery Johnson, and I want to talk about Shador Sanders. But first, we need to get to Uncomfortable Moments, because this is SUI Week, and Uncomfortable Moments is always a rich category. And any time I hear us recording these around here, something funny reminds me that the last year was a lot better than I thought it was. Something funny is about to appear here. We'll see who wins this category. What's the voting situation, Chris? What's the. Are we doing in terms of Crowning winners because we've been pretty loose over the years on this.

[Michael Grayson]

It's the 2025 SUI Awards presented by Miller Light. To cast your vote, you go to lebard af.com and vote there. All the cat categories will be there as we release the categories. The winners will be announced next Tuesday, September 7th. This is very exciting, coming out of the gates with a strong category Most Uncomfortable Moment from this year of shows.

[Greg Cody]

Welcome to the 2025 awards presented by Miller Light. I'm Greg Cody and let's dive right in with the SUI nominees for Most Uncomfortable Moment. Jeremy Tache talks weird and everyone jumps down his throat.

[Billy]

If you think that your family would.

[Michael Grayson]

Get a lot of joy from seeing.

[Billy]

You go to the hall of Fame.

[Michael Grayson]

And they're getting up there in age.

[Billy]

Why are you talking parents?

[Michael Grayson]

Well, cuz I'm asking a kind of dark question, right? Like you just sort of a board or something.

[Tony]

Let's take a dive early.

[Greg Cody]

Everybody just right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know what shut you up by doing.

[Greg Cody]

It's amazing. I'm sorry.

[Tony]

It was. I was struggling to follow what you were doing. I'm kind of happy. Everyone just started sentence.

[Michael Grayson]

It's what it sounded like to me. Pretty amazing.

[Greg Cody]

I know.

[Michael Grayson]

All right, enjoy the rest of the show.

[Dan LeBatard]

I feel bad. This is not.

[Tony]

I'm sorry. I think this is bullying.

[Dan LeBatard]

But this feels like, if we're going.

[Tony]

To be honest, never seen that before. Where some dude is talking, doing a thing, and everyone else just like, moves on with their lives and has their other goals.

[Greg Cody]

Should we miss it? Like, should he try it again?

[Tony]

Honestly, I don't remember what he said. It was so boring.

[Greg Cody]

Chris Cody insults Michael S. Schmidt of the New York Times.

[Dan LeBatard]

Show me the most meaningful of the Piazza balls.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, boy. No, they're not the Piazza balls.

[Michael Grayson]

These are.

[Greg Cody]

These are balls that my stepson hit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, okay, so I misunderstood.

[Michael Grayson]

Less interesting.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what? No, let's show me. Show me the best of your stepson's baseballs.

[Michael Grayson]

These are.

[Greg Cody]

This is. This is just. We. We do batting practice and I throw to him and we. We track the amount of balls that he hit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris, what are you judging his batting practice?

[Greg Cody]

Do it in a game.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you guys doing? Why can't he have this relationship with his son without you judging it?

[Greg Cody]

He can.

[Tony]

You're just clarifying.

[Dan LeBatard]

That was the point.

[Billy]

I'm sorry. Michael Schmidt.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Michael Jack.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

For your allergies.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. David Sampson knows too much about Paul.

[Michael Grayson]

Pierce and a little. A little nugget about Paul Pierce. He likes when you call him Daddy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, I didn't know that.

[Billy]

Well, maybe I'm not spending time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Maybe I'm not as good a friend of Paul Pierce as I was. What is this loon giggling about? What do you mean? He likes when you call him Daddy? What kind of contribution is that? You grinning, you grinning fool? Are you Paul Pierce? David. What's that? What are you. What are you snorting in the middle of the segment where you're. Where you're saying that about Paul Pierce? What's the matter with you?

[Tony]

Answer the man's question.

[Dan LeBatard]

Answer it.

[Michael Grayson]

Calling someone daddy and making sweet, passionate love are two totally different things.

[Greg Cody]

Yes or no?

[Michael Grayson]

No on that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the pole.

[Greg Cody]

You're hard.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the pole. Hard is. Is making sweet, passionate love and calling someone Daddy. Different.

[Greg Cody]

Dan Levitar disrespects Black History Month while talking to PK Suban.

[Michael Grayson]

Dan, it's his list, and it's Black History Month, so maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

Exactly.

[Greg Cody]

So.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what?

[Tony]

Stop talking shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you very much, Jessica.

[Greg Cody]

Anything goes right now, guys. True ally. Jessica, I appreciate you. Dan, you're out of line.

[Dan LeBatard]

I will not respect Black History Month. You guys clipp me saying you clipped that much. You guys didn't even let me get it out. That's a respectful top five, though. You got to respect that.

[Greg Cody]

Top five it is.

[Dan LeBatard]

I do, but I don't have to respect it because of Black History Month.

[Greg Cody]

Dan Levitard won't stop calling Greg Cody a senile old man.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't worry about him being exposed as a senile old man.

[Greg Cody]

If I can quit repeating senile.

[Billy]

Yeah. What is that?

[Greg Cody]

Why do you keep.

[Billy]

What's going on here?

[Commercial Voice]

That's.

[Greg Cody]

That's terrible.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

You shouldn't keep. Pick one of them.

[Tony]

You're right to take offense.

[Greg Cody]

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Tony]

It's unfair.

[Greg Cody]

I'm actually offended. That kid in a white hat who's done nothing in his life. I don't know what. I don't know what he did. What did he do before? Before spitting into one of the better voices.

[Billy]

Honestly.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, But I'm offended that he called me a senile old man. And I don't need you propping up that phrase, okay? Next thing I know, old man, it's going to be on a Levitar T shirt. That's the way it works.

[Tony]

I mean, that's a great idea, and you shouldn't have given us that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But he's a senile old man.

[Greg Cody]

Mike Tyson takes it to a dark place with a kid reporter. Well, in your return to the ring for this fight. You are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for the first time. What type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done?

[Mike Tyson]

Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I think that's another word for ego. That's just some word everybody grabbed on to. Now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm a die.

[Greg Cody]

And.

[Mike Tyson]

And it's going to be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego. So I'm a die. I want people to think that I'm this, I'm great. No, we're nothing. We're just debt. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing.

[Greg Cody]

Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is something that I have not heard before. Someone say that as an answer.

[Mike Tyson]

Can you really imagine somebody saying, I want my legacy to be this way? When I get debt, you think somebody really wants to think about you? I want people to think about me when I'm gone. Who the cares about me when I'm gone?

[Greg Cody]

Ronny Chang didn't realize Pablo Torre worked with Dan Lebatard on Pablo Torre finds out. What I want to keep prodding at though, is the. Is the genuine.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Is this a big thing in the.

[Greg Cody]

Sports journalism subculture at a company that Dan owns and operates that I work for? It's very much an inter. Office.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, you work at the same company?

[Billy]

I should.

[Greg Cody]

I should say that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Greg Cody]

I should have probably disclosed that legally.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What, Meadow Lock?

[Billy]

That's right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, so he works for Meadow Lock, Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, he founded it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, he founded this thing. Well, why the am I here then?

[Greg Cody]

I was gonna say you probably should. You probably should have.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, you should open with that. I thought this was like your own thing. No, I didn't know that. That's why you're so interested. I see. Yeah, I said no. I didn't know that it was the same company. But that goes to the show. That's how little like I hold grudges about this, you know, I mean, I.

[Greg Cody]

Don'T truly true what I was gonna say. Hey, Dan, can we get a new chair?

[Dominique Foxworth]

And this is. This is Dan paid for this? Get this on. Get this on camera. This is the level. This is where we're at ESPN to.

[Greg Cody]

This the jerk off between David Sampson and Darren Ravel.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is this a business off? Is it a respect off?

[Tony]

It's A jerk off.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Whoa.

[Michael Grayson]

There's a lot of things, and that's not one of them. You're both being jerks to each other.

[Greg Cody]

It's a jerk off. It. A jerk off. Yeah. That was not part of the contract with the airline. Greg Cody reading Fifty Shades of Gray. Darn tootin. Only me. You want it? You got it, baby. I growl, shipping out the prophylactic and unzipping my pantaloons. Making quick work of covering my doohickey, I stare down at the insatiable Ms. Steele. I sure hope you're ready, I warn her, grabbing hold of her wrists and keeping them at her sides. With one swift move, I'm inside her whatchama college. Ah, goodness me, Anna, you're so ready. I mean, unbelievable. Andrew Hawkins. Misspeaks Body was wondering. They was wondering. Hawk, when was your era? It was 2003. That's when I. That's when I came into myself. Hey, yo. That's crazy. That's.

[Billy]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

Greg Cody's voice does strange things to Billy. My wife says this sexy voice.

[Billy]

It really is. Yeah, I'm hard.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. Wow. So am I, actually. I don't know why Dan LeBatard ruins the end of the interview with Larry Charles on South Beach Sessions.

[Dan LeBatard]

June 17th is when it's available. Comedy Samurai. 40 Years of Blood, guts and laughter. Larry, a pleasure. It's been a pleasure to watch. My brother name is Dan, by the way. Okay, well, there you go. That doesn't mean anything to me, Larry. There's nothing to me. But I'm very happy to meet you. Likewise. And I feel like I just ruined everything we just did because of that, as my punctuation. By insulting you, by not caring. You have to go. Brother's name is Dan. You have to go for it.

[Greg Cody]

Well, you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because you're also right in a way. It doesn't matter, you know, I mean, I happened to. I wanted to share that with you, and so I shared. Well, you wanted to share it, and then I just rejected it. Totally Just ruined everything. In the end, it was intimate, it was vulnerable. It was a lovely conversation. And I'm like, I don't care about your brother. Cut it out. No, leave it in. I insist you leave it in. The more awkward, the better.

[Greg Cody]

Dan Patrick welcomes the Dan Lebatard show into the Peacock family. Well, if you think our show is bad, wait till you get a load of this show. It's the Dan LeBatard show with Stugon. And you can see it right after our show on Peacock. Boy, is it good. Early 20th. Hey, and apples.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan, you're not gonna come?

[Billy]

Well, her name was actually.

[Greg Cody]

Dan Levitard joins us now, I believe.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, put it on the poll at Levitard show. Are we still making.

[Greg Cody]

Dan. Dan.

[Tony]

Did we ever.

[Dan LeBatard]

And put that on. Did we ever. Did we. Well, we did make Merman. We made Ethel Merman.

[Tony]

But she wasn't even an Ethel.

[Greg Cody]

Dan.

[Tony]

She was.

[Greg Cody]

There was.

[Billy]

He was.

[Tony]

There was another one.

[Greg Cody]

Hey, Dan. Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, sir.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, it's Dan Patrick here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sorry we interrupted you. Professional as always, Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Once again, I let in with the tagline, I think for your show. If you think our show is bad, wait till you get a load of Dan Lebatard show with Stugotz. What do you think?

[Dan LeBatard]

What kind of intro is that? You're supposed to welcome me into the family.

[Greg Cody]

I did, until I couldn't get your attention. I was going to say nice things.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've got a bad executive producer.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, join the club. Oh. Dan Lebatard asks NASCAR driver Ryan Blaney, what is the worst part of the life?

[Dan LeBatard]

What is the worst part of the life?

[Greg Cody]

The worst part?

[Michael Grayson]

Wrecking.

[Billy]

That sucks.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a good answer.

[Greg Cody]

That sucks. Like, that's the worst thing ever. Poppy Levitar translates Spanish music lyrics I will let your hair lose Lo take off your shirt, though. Oh, you're also your panties.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not your panties. Just your pants. Not your panties.

[Greg Cody]

It's a two for one there, Daniel. Come on. Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

They were not your panties, dad. They were slacks. They were slacks. I'll take off your slack. I'll take off your slack.

[Greg Cody]

Dan Lebatard tries to give away a gift from a co worker because we.

[Dan LeBatard]

Get a lot of stuff sent to us, like Demar derozan socks. I get in today, and on my desk is the baseball cap I am presently wearing. And I did not recognize it. And so I walked out into the other room and I just asked, does anybody want this? And I'm standing right next to Izzy. And with a nice comedic pause, Izzy says, that was my Christmas gift to you.

[Michael Grayson]

The best part was you didn't just say, what is this? You said, who wants this?

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Michael Grayson]

It was not only were you curious about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, very.

[Michael Grayson]

I need to get this out of. Give this away.

[Greg Cody]

And now he's overcompensating by wearing the hat that he was trying to give away before the show.

[Billy]

I mean, classic guilt hat. How is that gonna stay on?

[Greg Cody]

Yep. And aware. For a month now. I mean.

[Billy]

Looks great on you.

[Tony]

Not so much.

[Greg Cody]

Stugots calls Texas A M head coach Mike Elko Ugly. You know, you might win the game, but you're not going to win. Best looking coach. Okay. Like you know that, right? What.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you talking about?

[Greg Cody]

What is.

[Billy]

What is that question?

[Dan LeBatard]

The guy across the side from you.

[Jarrett Payton]

I thought that competition was still wide open.

[Billy]

I happen to find coachelko to be very attractive.

[Dan LeBatard]

Very attractive man, too. But Marcus Freeman is the best looking person I've ever seen, Period.

[Jarrett Payton]

All right, now this is getting really uncomfortable.

[Billy]

Don't worry, Coach. Coach Freeman can blow an easy game. We've seen that over the years.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, gee. Dominique Foxworth starts the Kenan Thompson interview with a spicy question. Keenan Thompson is here to join us. Thank you, sir. What's good with y'? All? Good. Chilling, chilling, chilling. We're having a good time. I wanted to start with you with Morgan Wallen. I saw him walk off the set. Who did he call? The N word. And why didn't you punch him? What happens when Dan ain't on the show? This is just anything goes, man. So I'll be clear with you, Keaton. I had an interview earlier where I interviewed Steve Williams, Tigers former caddy. And I did an awful thing. I asked him poor questions, and then I moved my microphone while he was answering the question, and I hit this button while he was answering question. It was a complete mistake. So I'm reeling right now, Keenan. I'm reeling and I'm like, you know what? I got a big star coming up in Keaton Thompson. I'm about to have a hell of an interview. I'mma start it off with a spicy question. That's right. That's mad spicy, to answer your question.

[Jarrett Payton]

I don't know. You know, it's how he's feeling, I guess. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't even realize. I don't know if he realized what he was doing.

[Greg Cody]

Jarrett Payton tells the story of Dan LeBatard not recognizing him.

[Jarrett Payton]

And the next thing you know, I'm watching you walk towards me, and I'm going. Took me back to Coral Gables 305. I'm just like, holy cow, Stan Lebatard walking towards me. And he definitely.

[Greg Cody]

He know.

[Jarrett Payton]

He knows who I am. Like, he. He has to. He watched me grow up, you know, as a. As a kid. Breath smelling like Similac in Miami and Coral Gables. I'm like, he knows me. And when you walked up to be so gentle, you're like, sir, do you know where I can find a bathroom? And it was that moment where I was like, oh, man, Dan, he doesn't know who I am. He has no clue. He don't know me. Maybe, you know, maybe I've grown up a little bit. You maybe didn't have the fake diamond studs in my ear from when I was in Miami.

[Dan LeBatard]

Maybe.

[Jarrett Payton]

I don't know what it is, and I didn't know what to say to you, Dan, but I go, you know what, sir? Just to let you know, I don't work here. And you go, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. I said this is gonna make it even more awkward. I'm Jared Payton. You're like, oh, my gosh. Doing exactly what you're doing right now. It was like you saw a ghost when I told you.

[Dan LeBatard]

This racist.

[Greg Cody]

Millie Gill has a spicy question for Ohio State quarterback Kyle McCord on God Bless football. Billy, you're gonna love this, because it's my understanding that Kyle has a flavored potato chip. Is that. Is that accurate? Kyle, you have a flavor of potato chip, don't you? Yeah.

[Billy]

What's the flavor? What does Kyle taste like?

[Greg Cody]

Wow, Billy. Wow. Oh, man. It's a.

[Michael Grayson]

It's like a sharp cheddar honey barbecue.

[Billy]

Oh, that sounds good.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I know. It's legit. David Sampson's strange admission to start his interview. The great David Sampson's in the building. What up, David? How are you?

[Michael Grayson]

I wish I were in the building. Yeah, sadly, I'm just on a little square, but my voice is strong and my bottom is fresh.

[Greg Cody]

Nope.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. There we go.

[Greg Cody]

Love that.

[Dan LeBatard]

You got a problem, flea flicker. Every first down, that's how we start. Oh, I love you, man. It's a loaded category. How many categories do we have this year? I heard Greg Cody in here taping all of the voiceovers for this. He was exhausted but honored. Honored to be the longtime voice of the Suis. Who would you guys nominate there for your discomforts? Which one made you the most squeamish?

[Michael Grayson]

Billy brought it strong at the end there. I was pretty awkward with that writer about his stepson's batting practice balls.

[Tony]

I forgot all about that one. That one was hard to relive.

[Greg Cody]

That was good.

[Tony]

That one and Kenan Thompson were very difficult to.

[Dan LeBatard]

You were wincing, you were cringing. You were hiding from the microphone.

[Tony]

You were.

[Dan LeBatard]

You were retreating.

[Michael Grayson]

You can't just let the guy say his brother's name is Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, like you did well there.

[Tony]

That wasn't awkward. That was actually polished.

[Michael Grayson]

What's the worst part of the life is still like. That's the number one hit on the Billboard charts. It Might not win, but it's the most popular one, that's for sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really good.

[Tony]

Hey, Tony.

[Michael Grayson]

Hey, Mike.

[Tony]

Hey, man. Summer's almost ending, man. I don't like that.

[Greg Cody]

There's no way. There's no way.

[Tony]

I am excited about cooler temperatures, but down here in South Florida, that just means slightly less boiling. It's been a pretty incredible summer. We've had a parade down here. We've grown our family down here at Metal Arc Media. Lot of exciting things, a lot of memorable benchmarks. And along the way, at almost every step, I've been tailed by that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. Oh, that beautiful white can or the brown bottle. You can do it on draft.

[Michael Grayson]

Draft is crisp.

[Tony]

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[Greg Cody]

Don Leitard.

[Dan LeBatard]

Billy, Somebody has written in here. I need way more.

[Greg Cody]

I'm sorry.

[Michael Grayson]

I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too?

[Greg Cody]

It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. All right, St. But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't have.

[Billy]

Well, now he said it didn't.

[Greg Cody]

He didn't say it again. My apologies. Why?

[Dan LeBatard]

Greg? Yeah, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

He apologized Craig, sincerely, this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, We've got a number of different things that I have wanted to get to. I still haven't fully discussed this Avery Johnson story. The father and the other son have released a joint statement to on3.com we sincerely apologize for our actions following yesterday's football game in Ireland. Senseless bickering escalated into an unnecessary fight. Mark and Anthony wrote in the statement. We have resolved our differences and take full responsibility for our actions. We have apologized to our media and extended family and now extend our apologies to Kansas State University, its alumni and fans. I will say that as a symbol, the free for all that college sports has become the father and a son fighting in the parking lot as the college quarterback is playing inside or afterward, that the AA unis of it all, the high school meets college. And now there's a lot of money. So. So you're not only going to get it there, you're going to get Halliburton's dad involved in the games in the NBA finals. Some of this family stuff is just going to leak into our lives here because of some of the things that you invite near your huddle with the business of all this.

[Tony]

Ireland. Ireland. That seems like Ireland down to the. Oh, we're good. Wrapping your arms around one another after. After saying, we probably got too far out ahead of ourselves there. That was not a good look.

[Billy]

We're like two months away from. From Thanksgiving. Like, that's gonna be weird. Like, I, You. You just come. Like, we talked it out. We're good now. And you just forget that you're punching each other in a puddle in Ireland.

[Michael Grayson]

How old does a kid have to be a kid guy? I don't know. Is this like a grown adult son? Because that's the part. Like, is there a line here of, like, where's the line? How old does the kid have to be? How old is he for this not to be on the other side of the line?

[Dan LeBatard]

How old is he? And let's, if we can, for just a moment examine this because you guys say, what is Thanksgiving gonna be like? Like, my guess is that might be capable of happening during Thanksgiving or in a previous Thanksgiving, because I'm guessing we didn't catch him the first time it's happened. Like, do you guys think that that's their relationship or you. I understand saying it's Ireland, but once it escalates to that, trust me when I say that if it escalated to that with my. With my father in some form we wouldn't just go back to normal. Like this has to be at least something close to normal. It doesn't. It, it may be drinking involved but that's fuel.

[Michael Grayson]

That's not, that's, this is an older brother. That makes it a little better for me. No, it's still not good. I mean, come on, it's as opposed to being a 14 year old. Like, you know, this is, it's better. This is not good. I'm not saying it's good. I'm just saying better that he's an older brother than a younger brother would be a while. The younger brother, that's his borderline.

[Billy]

Honestly, he should have won the fight. Like looking at the two of them, I couldn't believe that pops was beating the crap out of him in that puddle. Like he should have been winning that fight. It was a bad look, I, I, they say that this is behind them. Probably an unpopular thing. Shouldn't be endorsing this or putting it out there. He's got to get a shot at his dad. Like he's got it. He's got to stand up for himself and, you know, not, not have that be the lasting legacy is him, you know, in a puddle getting beat by his father. He needs to like he needs to have a new fight video where he's beating his father.

[Dan LeBatard]

This becomes sadder the older you make the older brother. Well, but how old are the father and the so having this particular interaction because Mike, you think I'm making some sort of a leap in saying with everything that's changing in college sports that makes it so that Nick Saban can't exist today, somebody who's just lording over the program with all of the control and there are punitive measures that will not allow you to transfer you and your family to another million dollar economy. You don't think that if I put all of that, the business of that around John Morant or Halliburton or a college quarterback or if I'm inviting family economies to our star player now makes $3 million a year. You don't think that I'm bringing a level of professionalism that's going to get undercut by the young people and the economics that have no rules around college football right now that anyone can follow?

[Tony]

No Ireland. What does this have to do with the business of college football? A dad and an older brother can fight and it be a family squabble anywhere in heaven. Has nothing to do with nil or the business of college football. I would say it has more to do with Ireland.

[Dan LeBatard]

It can stand. It can stand alone as being Ireland. Or it could be a hell of an introduction to this series again, another season of just wonderful lawlessness in college football. As it could be.

[Tony]

It could be certainly an image that you attach to the lawlessness of college football. I think college football right now would try to argue that we actually have laws in place. I think that taking the opportunity to lump this in with nil and the business of college football.

[Dan LeBatard]

The reason I'm doing it is because college football started this weekend and I'm not talking about the game. And I don't think people are either. It's like, yeah, great, college football is here. Don't expect either of those teams to contend for anything meaningful. And also, here's the one story I'm taking from that game, the one that can take me through to another college football game when I can talk about all the shit that excites me. That's entertainment around college football that isn't actually college football.

[Tony]

When have you ever seen that? You're right to talk about it. When have we ever seen the star quarterback's dad fight with a brother in a puddle? I've never seen that before in my life.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love it as a symbol.

[Greg Cody]

College football for me hasn't started yet. There was a pretty good game last night or Saturday night. Nobody cares who won. College football starts next weekend with two mega games Saturday and a mega game Sunday night in Miami Gardens. As far as this fight goes, I think the age of the father and son is all that matters. Because if you have a 30 year old son fighting a 52 year old dad, nobody's worried about that.

[Michael Grayson]

52 and 25 is my greatest guess. I don't know for sure, Dan, it's.

[Billy]

Not on the Internet.

[Greg Cody]

But I'm just. If that's the case, I think it's a fair fight, so to speak. But no but so if me and.

[Michael Grayson]

You get into it, it's just that can happen.

[Greg Cody]

No, because I'm 70. If you fight me, nobody's on your side, right? You're picking on an old, elderly, abusive.

[Tony]

It's hard. There's no bios attached for the family involved. But we know that Avery Johnson. This is Avery Johnson's older brother. And AVERY Johnson is 2020.

[Michael Grayson]

I'm guessing 23. And the dad, early 50s.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, that's fair. That's a fair fight.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's fair.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's a fair fight. 53. You're not old yet, you know, you're still feeling it.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys have a different dad situation than I do. If you're thinking that any of that is okay, normal, something that is normal inside of a family, like that would happen once in my family and never again.

[Greg Cody]

You have to know who instigated it, right? You have to know the cause of this. Because if I get into a physical fight with my son and I think he started it or he's at fault, if I don't get an apology from him, then it may fester. Then it may still be going on at Thanksgiving.

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[Greg Cody]

Don LeBatard, he called me on my own podcast. He called me full of shit claiming that I'm faking interest in the solar eclipse. Well, you do do this.

[Michael Grayson]

You love to just get excited about everything.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, junior stug school you and explain to you he was going to take you to Augusta. I mean, when I was 17 years old, Alan Sherry and I used to haunt the Bueller Planetarium. This is the D? Ler show with the St Gods.

[Tony]

It may be irresponsible, but that's a hell of a time to ever have your first physical altercation with everyone from Kansas State around you.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to interview them. I don't want a joint statement. I want to ask about the family dynamics. I've got a lot of follow up questions here.

[Tony]

All right, let's work on that.

[Greg Cody]

All right.

[Tony]

I'm sure they're in the mood to talk.

[Billy]

What if you only get one? You need both.

[Tony]

Can we get Iowa State? Can we get Rocco Beck, the Iowa State quarterback, to fight his dad? Anthony Becht, former NFL player that'd be cool.

[Michael Grayson]

They are committed to ensuring this doesn't happen again.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. Commitment.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but I've got some follow up questions. We'll move on.

[Tony]

Huddle placement's unfortunate, you'd agree.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, yeah. Showy.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Cleveland Browns quarterback situation. It is laugh laughably funny that a couple of weeks ago they just sort of announced, yeah, Joe Flacco is our starter. That gives you no hope right off the start. He's going to have a couple of good games. He's going to have a couple games where he throws four interceptions. And that can't be your starting quarterback in today's league. That has to be somebody who comes off your bench for four or five games. Regardless, Warren Sharp has these stats. The final preseason stats for Shador Sanders. Three completions, 2.3 yards per attempt, a net of minus 27 yards on 11 drop backs and five sacks. And the context he adds here is that he has nine years of play by play preseason stats and Shador Sanders is the only quarterback to take five plus sacks on fewer than 15 drop backs in any preseason game. I've told you that I do very bad quarterback analysis. I get it wrong all the time because I find kind of puzzling how these people do the science of measuring whether these people have a future at the position that if developed over years, can make it so that they can play that game which is unbelievably fast and violent in the most decisive way. Having seen Shador Sanders and the way he plays quarterback rolling around out there, if you don't have the athleticism of Lamar Jackson doesn't work. It makes you take a ton of sacks in college and the whole game now is how fast do you make the decisions. When you mentioned TUA before, it's the fastest it's ever been done. Dan Marino was special because it was all quick release. People couldn't believe speed and accuracy on how fast it got out because if you can buy a second more of time, you can be Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, MVP of the league. But if you're not as athletic as them and you try to play the position that way you're going to look like old Teddy Bridgewater, where anytime you're outside of the pocket, nobody wants you outside of the pocket. You're not going to extend plays with his athleticism in the pros and Those numbers are damning. Like, I don't know what Cleveland could possibly see that would tell me that that is a professional quarterback, based on the sample size you just saw there, doesn't make the decisions quickly enough.

[Greg Cody]

I think it's very fair to say Shador Sanders needs to prove himself in this league. I don't think that's disrespect. And I also think the rest of the NFL right now is thinking to itself, you know what? Maybe we weren't that stupid to wait to wait and wait and wait and draft him in the third day of the draft. The fact that Joe Flacco was named the starter fairly quick. Quick simply indicates to me that Shador Sanders ain't ready. And we all see it and it's. It's without dispute. It doesn't mean he won't turn out to be a very good quarterback. But right now he needs time and they're not rushing him.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but when you.

[Greg Cody]

They're doing the smart thing, though, the worst thing they could do is Cleveland starts off 0 and 4 and Shador Sanders stinks and all of a sudden everybody dislikes him instead of waiting for him as the hero. That's about to happen.

[Mike Tyson]

Happen.

[Dan LeBatard]

Those numbers I just gave you, though, they're pretty damning on decision making, on the skill that you're being asked to have right now. That is the most important. We've seen a sea change at the position. People are expecting J.J. mcCarthy to be good. My entire life, the quarterback never comes in and is immediately good or he's one of the really special ones. He's Cam Newton throwing for 400 yards his first game out the quarterback in my lifetime now this is something new now because all of a sudden Herbert and Tua don't wait. It's not about Aaron Rodgers stays on the bench for a couple of years. It's Bryce Young. Get in there in eight games and we'll think you're close to done. If Andy Dalton doesn't get into a car accident, you might be on another team right now. Because the windows now to measure these people are what, eight games? Eight, like legitimately, because of what they've done with the economy of you can get out from under a bad contract now. You don't have to sit there with Ryan Lee for two or three years trying to figure it out. What do you do with Shador Sanders is there as your cor. But your team has no hope. None. He's not going to be any good. They're not going to be any good.

[Greg Cody]

If you're not patient with your rookie quarterback. You have a systemic problem, particularly a rookie quarterback drafted in the round he was drafted. You have to go in knowing this is not going to be magic right away. We're going to have to wait a little bit. The problem is he's gone to a bad team. If he's playing behind Philadelphia's offensive line, he's not sacked five times. He's playing behind a bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

He might be. He gets sacked a ton like that.

[Tony]

That's an excellent point. In Colorado, he never got blamed for it. They always put it on the offensive line and the dynamic there kind of protected him. But we know how he played in Colorado. He would hold onto the ball a really, really long time over there. Kevin Clark was on pardon My Take a few weeks ago and he kind of theorized how came Ward held onto the ball a little bit when he finally had a good offensive line. Was the opposite when he was at Wazoo. But you have quarterbacks that are entering the league now that aren't necessarily from the school of get it out as quickly as possible. Usually the sport beats it out of you, but in high school, the hitting rules have changed. This is really the first generation that has gone through all levels of football not really being punished physically for holding onto the ball too long. So you might see it more and it might take time to get it beat out of you.

[Dan LeBatard]

The thing that people do not realize whenever they stand next to Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or Ben Roethlisberg. Holy, that person's big, right? So now make it Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen where someone galloping around and he's more athletic than everyone else and he has the most valuable of gifts in the salary cap. It's the most valuable gift. Don't kind of need my running back. And also I can extend plays. Does not matter whether my offensive lineman actually does his job. Patrick Mahomes doesn't even have that as much anymore. He'll run for eight yards on third and seven. But what they've done to his body already grinds that out of you. You if you're not. I imagine Billy, you stood next to Josh Allen. Was the. Was the size of him not something that sort of left you in the shade?

[Billy]

I thought he was going to be bigger. I mean, I'm not saying that as like an insult. I was coming off as insulting. It's not meant that way. But we took a picture next to him. He's like 2 or 3 inches taller than me. I thought I was surprised. Like I've seen Joe Burrow in person. Joe Burrow looks like an Adonis.

[Dan LeBatard]

So he's not that big. And he's got a stupid face. Is your appraisal of the top of the AFC East?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Billy]

Didn't say the MVP of the league. I did not say those at certain points.

[Tony]

You said both those.

[Dan LeBatard]

You said both of those things, just.

[Tony]

Not together at the same time.

[Dan LeBatard]

You did say both of those things. Stupid face and not that big.

[Billy]

As surprised.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not impressive physically.

[Billy]

Should have been bigger. Honestly, a little pudgy.

[Tony]

Hey, Tony.

[Michael Grayson]

Hey, Mike.

[Tony]

Hey, man. Summer's almost ending, man. I don't like that.

[Greg Cody]

There's no way.

[Tony]

There's no way I am excited about cooler temperatures. But down here, here in South Florida, that just means slightly less boiling hot. It's been a pretty incredible summer. We've had a parade down here. We've grown our family down here at Meadowlark Media. A lot of exciting things, a lot of memorable benchmarks. And along the way, at almost every step, I've been tailed by that beautiful white can of Miller Light. Oh, that beautiful white or the brown bottle. You can do it on draft.

[Michael Grayson]

Draft is crisp.

[Tony]

There's been so many great special times. And each time I've decided to make those special times a Miller time. Whether it's a long weekend like one we got coming up, or a full on vacation, it is a perfect time to get the crew back together. This year marks 50 years of Miller time. 50 years of great taste, great friends and unforgettable memories. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.