The Big Suey: Nick Wright's Highly Rate and Very Successful Television Show

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Episode: The Big Suey: Nick Wright's Highly Rated and Very Successful Television Show

Date: September 17, 2025
Guests: Nick Wright (FS1’s First Things First, What’s Wright? podcast)
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the Kansas City Chiefs’ offensive narrative post-Tyreek Hill, the never-ending debate over Patrick Mahomes’ greatness and adaptability, the shifting standards in football analysis, and a healthy dose of the usual Le Batard Show meta-commentary and playful banter. Nick Wright appears as a primary guest, defending Mahomes’ legacy and progression, sparring with Dan and Mike Ryan over media narratives, statistical markers, and even podcasting etiquette. The episode also touches on Travis Kelce’s slow start, quarterback rankings, and the evolving culture of sports debate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Chiefs, Mahomes, and Revising Narratives

[02:00–14:50]

• Mike Ryan’s Objections to Yesterday’s Show:
  • Discontent with analysis of Patrick Mahomes as a "dink and dunk" quarterback.
  • Pushback on the idea that the Chiefs' offense is in decline post-Tyreek Hill.

"If there is one person in the NFL that I am sure of that wants to go deep ball hunting, it’s Patrick Mahomes. And I think he will do that until we put dirt on his grave." – Mike Ryan [02:35]

• Nick Wright’s Counter-Argument:
  • Emphasizes that after Tyreek Hill's departure, Mahomes won both MVP and Super Bowl MVP; offense posted best stats with lesser receivers.

“Patrick Mahomes, his first year after Tyreek Hill... League MVP, Super Bowl MVP, most points in the league... I am not gonna sit here on his 30th birthday, no less, and allow you to try to pedal this false narrative..."
– Nick Wright [04:07]

• Dan Le Batard's Perspective:
  • Acknowledges Mahomes’ adaptability but maintains that the offense looks different and less explosive.
  • Emphasizes not wanting sports analysis to devolve into fact-denial and revisionist history like political discourse.

“I am not going to allow what happened to political discourse to happen to sports discourse...”
– Dan Le Batard [03:39]

• Consensus and Tension:
  • Both agree Chiefs' offense isn’t humming the way it did previously, but disagree about what that means for Mahomes’ standing and narrative.
  • Nick Wright pushes back hard against "revisionist history" about Mahomes’ performance and the Chiefs’ legacy.

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Quarterback Rankings, Motivation & Media Games

[13:14–16:22]

• Mahomes vs. Lamar Jackson:
  • Nick confronts Dan for ranking Lamar ahead of Mahomes on his “highly rated, very successful television show.”
  • Dan frames this as a motivational gift to Mahomes for his 30th birthday.

“I decided, what better present to give Patrick than... looking up at Lamar Jackson on Mahomes Mountain?”
– Dan Le Batard [13:40]

• Media Persona and Bias:
  • Nick claims to be a “truth-teller,” deflecting accusations of bias.
  • Humor around gift-wrapped “motivation” and the performativity of sports debate shows is played up.

“Do you put motivation in a box and wrap it? Like, how do you present someone motivation?”
– Billy [14:59]

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Chiefs Offense: The X's and O's, Travis Kelce, and The Run Game

[21:08–24:43]

• Travis Kelce’s Early Struggles:
  • Discussion whether Kelce is "skating" by amid criticism levied at Mahomes.
  • Acknowledgement that tight ends aging past 35 rarely put up big numbers; Kelce’s continued output compared to Gronkowski's earlier retirement.

“To expect Travis Kelsey... at 36... to have a thousand yard season would be to expect something that 36-year-old tight ends simply can’t do.”
– Nick Wright [23:04]

• What the Chiefs Offense Lacks:
  • Not pining for Tyreek Hill’s return, but wishing for a stable running game.
  • Concerns over Isiah Pacheco’s health and effectiveness post-injury.

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Tua Tagovailoa’s Press Conferences

[24:51–25:36]

• Dan on Tua’s Demeanor with the Media:
  • Disapproval of Tua’s excessive deference and humility about opponents, especially Josh Allen.
  • Commentary on the importance of quarterback public statements and confidence.

“He can't... be like, ‘Obviously he runs it and throws it better than— I'm half the quarterback he is. I'm not anything close’... That's a bad one. Bad, bad, bad.”
– Dan Le Batard [24:51]

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Podcast & Sports Media Industry In-jokes

[16:22–22:31, 27:20–28:29]

• Podcast/Platform Entitlement:
  • Riffing on Pablo Torre's insistence that guests appear on his podcast, joking that it’s “entitlement.”
  • Playful rivalry between Nick Wright and Pablo Torre over the value of investigative reporting vs. “farted out Mahomes takes.”

“Counterpoint. I'm providing content that is helping provide hundreds of thousands if not millions of sports fans a fun respite in this interminable hellscape...”
– Nick Wright [27:37, quoting his own text exchange]

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Audience Interaction & Listener Takes

[34:30–40:13]

• Boldest Take Hotline Segments:
  • Wild and humorous voicemails, e.g. “Indiana Jones for Daniel Jones” as a nickname, and oddball rants about gas stations, injuries, and ranch dressing.
  • Meta-commentary on creativity and participation in the show's community.

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Yards Per Attempt, Playoff Wins & The “Stats Debate”

[03:35, 40:00–41:39]

• Arguments Over Statistical Markers:
  • Disagreement on what stats matter — yards per attempt vs. playoff wins.
  • Mike Ryan offers: “A playoff win is not a stat. Not for just the quarterback.”
  • Nick: “Yards per attempt is a step [stat], a playoff win isn’t.”
  • Consensus emerges that playoff wins matter more for quarterbacks in the postseason.

"It should be a quarterback stat in the playoffs. I'm with you on regular season."
– Dan Le Batard [41:00]

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Brian Daboll, Daniel Jones, and NFL Coach/Quarterback Value

[39:16–41:48]

• What’s more important: A coach or a quarterback? Joke/sarcastic debates about Nick Sirianni vs. Andy Reid.
• Questions of whether Brian Daboll could be fired even if Daniel Jones excels, and the cyclical nature of NFL narratives.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Revisionist History in Sports:
  "What happened to political discourse is we stopped arguing about what we should do about things and we started arguing about what actually happened in the past. And it ruined everything."
  – Dan Le Batard [05:22]

• On Mahomes Post-Tyreek:
  "Right now they're stuck in the mud a bit after the disastrous season of last year where all they did was reach their third straight Super Bowl, becoming the third team ever to do that."
  – Nick Wright [04:51]

• On Tua’s Pressers:
  "He can't... be like, ‘Obviously…I'm half the quarterback he is.’...That's a bad press conference. Bad, bad, bad."
  – Dan Le Batard [24:51]

• Nick Wright v. Pablo Torre:
  "...while he is getting applause from the absolute most boring people in the world about a story that even the most die hard NBA fans can only pretend to kind of care about. Bonus counterpoint. My farted out Mahomes takes will result in the exact same number of real sanctions as his seven months of Kawhi reporting."
  – Nick Wright, quoting his text exchange [27:37]

• On Sports Fan Participation:
  "Every time I play some of the calls, I'm reminded of how good our competitive creative community used to be..."
  – Dan Le Batard [34:30]

• Meta-Narrative on Sports Debate:
  “You guys, when you’re doing analysis of people, there is no insight in ‘they won. Therefore, he’s the best.’”
  – Nick Wright [43:12]

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Additional Segments & Lighter Moments

• Banter over present-day Razor Ramon hair and jewelry looks ([15:02])
• Complaints about confusing months with their number assignments ([30:12])
• Playful jabs over football’s “winning formula” and the conventional wisdom that “rings” are all that matter.
• Le Batard's imagined gift of "motivation" to Mahomes for his 30th ([13:40])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:00–06:22] – Chiefs’ offensive evolution, Mahomes narrative
• [13:14–14:50] – QB rankings, Mahomes vs. Lamar
• [21:08–24:43] – Travis Kelce’s season, Chiefs’ needs
• [24:51–25:36] – Tua’s press conference critique
• [27:20–28:29] – Nick Wright vs. Pablo Torre rivalry
• [34:30–37:03] – Listener “Boldest Takes” segment
• [40:00–41:39] – Playoff wins vs. stats argument
• [43:12] – Discussion on the overemphasis of “wins” as football analysis

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Conclusion

The episode is quintessential Le Batard Show — irreverent, argumentative, and meta as ever. Nick Wright continues to be an energetic defender of Mahomes and sports narrative nuance, while Dan and Mike push back in classic contrarian style. The conversation travels from serious football analysis to poking fun at sports media conventions and the egos of on-air personalities. A must-listen for those who appreciate heated but thoughtful football debates laced with humor, industry insight, and community engagement.

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[Nick Wright]

Mike Ryan wasn't here yesterday. We'll get to Nick Wright in a second. He's the host of what's Right with Nick Wright and FS1's First Things First. He is the hottest thing in sports gas bagging these days. Mike, did you object to anything that I did or the show did yesterday when you were off? Because I suspect that you probably didn't like anything I had to say about the Chiefs.

[Mike Ryan]

Three things I took issue with Tom Brady Conversation. I think there's more meat on that bone. We can revisit that later. The phrase Rex Grossman dragged the Bears to the super bowl was uttered yesterday. And Dan went unchecked when it was quite literally the other one.

[Billy]

Totally fair. Totally fair.

[Mike Ryan]

And Dan's obsession with calling Patrick Mahomes a dink and dunk quarterback, even invoking, even invoking Baker Mayfield. When you look at yards per 10, Patrick Mahomes has a better yards per attempt than. Than Baker Mayfield. If there is one person in the NFL that I am sure of that wants to go deep ball hunting, it's Patrick Mahomes. And I think he will do that until we put dirt on his grave. He doesn't have two important receivers. That loss is entirely on Travis Kelce. And another thing, stop looking at yards per attempt. Especially two weeks into the season. You know who is last place by a wide margin in the league in yards per attempt at 4.7? Cam Ward. What do you know about Cam Ward that suggests he is all of a sudden Alex Smith.

[Nick Wright]

I'm looking at since Tyreek Hill left, Patrick Mahomes I think is 39 and 12 and average yard per attempt. The only one lower in the entire league over that stretch is Daniel Jones.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on, can I. Am I invited in?

[Mike Ryan]

And Daniel Jones, by the way, first in yards per attempt right now in the league.

[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome there. This is. I am not going to allow what has happened to political discourse, happened to sports discourse.

[Nick Wright]

Where you were. You're surrounded. Where you were.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, hey, my turn. Where we pretend things that we watched happen, didn't happen. Dan, what happened the first year after Tyreek Hill left? Do you know? Or you're too soaked in tequila? Patrick Mahomes 1. League MVP, Super Bowl MVP. The Chief scored the most points in the league. The Chiefs had the most yards in the league. And if you look up on Football Reference. Hey, what's the single season where a quarterback accounted for the most total yards? It's Patrick Mahomes, his first year after Tyree Kill. So I am not gonna sit here on his 30th birthday, no less, and allow you to try to try to pedal this false narrat that since Tyreek left, the Chiefs offense hasn't been the same the first year after Tyreek with juju Smith Schuster, who wasn't good enough to be on the Patriots, and Marquez Valdez Scantling, who's got cut from multiple teams. And M. Hardman, that team scored more points than anybody. Right now they're stuck in the mud a bit after the disastrous season of last year where all they did was reach the third, their third straight super bowl, becoming the third team ever to do that. But we're not going to recreate history. Hi, thanks for having me on. And thanks to Hampton Farms for sending me all these sweet nuts.

[Billy]

What happened to political discourse?

[Dan Le Batard]

I appreciate that. What did you say?

[Nick Wright]

He said, what happened to political discourse?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what happened to political discourse is we stopped arguing about what we should do about things and we started arguing about what actually happened in the past. And it ruined everything. Like we used to be agreeing that what had occurred, what the facts on the ground were, and then we disagreed about solutions or about root causes. But now every political discussion, you can't even get to the topic because we spend time arguing. It would be as if every Jordan LeBron debate, somebody came out and they were like, well, how could Jordan be better? He only won four championships. And then someone's like no, he won six. They're like, actually you're wrong. Four fake news. And then we're just arguing about what happened. Like that. So sports luckily has avoided that. But if we're. But I, I saw this slippery slope, Dan. You're trying to walk down with this. You know Patrick Mahomes post Tyreek Hill. How good is he? Patrick moans post Tyree Kill one an mv. Well, I already explained it.

[Nick Wright]

I'm gonna give the same stat I gave yesterday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sweet Christ.

[Nick Wright]

Since 2023 games with 320 plus passing yards. Patrick Mahomes has three. Jake Browning has three.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that. And listen, that's. That takes me aback a bit because I know and I'm sure you're, you know, the shipping container does as well that when we fell in love with sports and when we got into sports media, there were, you know, some hallowed statistical markers. Be it Hank Aaron's home run record before Bonds broke it. Be it batting 400 and 320 yard passing games is just always been how I've weighed quarterbacks.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, let me.

[Dan Le Batard]

And it's not at all, it's not at all an arbitrary marking. Your exact narrative.

[Nick Wright]

Fine. Let me do it another way then. The first two weeks of the season. Because you're, you're talking about what Mahomes was after Hill left. And you're right that one season. But that Chiefs offense that was always going to score 30 is dead and two, 2018 to 2022. His passing stat, Nick. In the first two weeks of the season. 35 touchdowns.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh yeah.

[Nick Wright]

Zero interceptions. Hold on a second.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's been different the last two years.

[Nick Wright]

Nine touchdowns, six interceptions. He's become a dink and dunk quarterback. There are reasons for that. I don't think it's his fault. I think it's a lot of offensive pieces he's missing. But you can't deny that that's not the same offense. You can't deny that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't deny that at all. I never denied that. I what Patrick Mahomes, what you're saying he's become is what he's always been, which is I will be the perfect quarterback for the exact team I have. And when I walk into the league and we have the league's worst defense and we we have the fastest and best receiver in the league, I will fire it downfield. And last year, when or two years ago when we have maybe the league's best defense, all I need to do is not screw it up. And last year when they had an okay but not great defense and they had the most injured receiving core and running back room and left tackle spot in football, I will, I will do whatever it takes to make sure we are within reaching distance in in the fourth quarter when then I will go Superman mode. He is a chameleon to winning. Now two weeks into the year, the Chiefs have not been good enough. The offense hasn't been good enough. Pat hasn't been good enough. The fact that he is right now he's on pace for a thousand yards rushing, which is horrifying. He is having to activate the Patrick Mahomes hero mode scramble mode that he keeps saves for the playoffs early. I'm not sitting here arguing that the Chiefs through two weeks look like a juggernaut. Far from it. But. And I'm not sitting here arguing that there are not fair concerns two weeks in for the Chiefs. And if someone wants to argue the concerns are deeper than get Rice and Xavier Worthy back, that's totally fair. What I will not abide is the revisionist history on who Patrick is and who he isn't. And that's not just because I was an invited guest of his at his new steakhouse in Kansas City Friday night. 1587 Prime. Everyone should check it out. It's really outstanding.

[Nick Wright]

You don't have to abide those things. You can simply could see that the Chiefs over the last four years have gone from being an elite offensive team to an elite defensive team and that it's just not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. Last year they were not an elite defense. Last year, call Mina Kimes and have her tell you about DVOA or EPA or any of those fancy stats that you can't sort on ESPN and you'll see they were roughly the 10th best defense. And last year, how did they go 172 in games Patrick played, if we throw out the meaningless Week 18 game, it was because he made every play when it mattered late. And I know in the. The new age sports math is clutch. Doesn't exist. Actually, when you think about it, Lamar's career and Patrick's career are very similar. But at in our bones we know that's not true. And so it, it's just not accurate that last year they were carried by the defense, not when he was the best fourth quarter, the best third down and the best fourth, fourth down quarterback in the league. This year the defense has been far better than the offense. Now it. Two games is two games and there are things that go into it. But there, there's no defending what they've been this season. There's what. What is so irritating and what is so frustrating is we have done this now for four years where there is the. And I. And I'll try to be quick because I know we don't have, you know, as much time as we normally do. They get. They get blasted in the super bowl by the Bucks, and we do the whole narrative of, oh, are the Chiefs in trouble? They. Nobody remembers this but me. They start the next year, they 3 and 4, including a 273 loss to Ryan Tannehill, and the Chiefs are dead. And they end up in overtime of the AFC championship game. But they lose it and they trade Tyreek Hill. And the narrative is, okay, now we're gonna see, you know, what Patrick Mahomes really made of. He has the year that I said where he wins league mvp, they win the super bowl, and everyone says, all right, we're done doubting Patrick Mahomes this year for real. But then the next year, they lose the opener to Detroit. They have all the drops, they have to go on the road in the playoffs. And people going into that postseason are like, you know what? The Cleveland Browns with that defense might be scarier than the Chiefs. The Miami Dolphins might be able to go into Arrowhead and win. They've never won a road playoff game. And then he beats Lamar, he beats Josh, he beats the Niners. And everyone swears, all right, this time for real, we're serious, we're done. And then last year, they have the best record in football every single day of the season. And the narrative is, yeah, but they don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And this is the Bills year. And then once again, they play the AFC Championship game. He outplays Josh. He beats Josh. Josh has the ball in his Hands with a chance to go win the game, get 17 yards, and everyone swears. We're done doubting him. He's proven it. And that lasted three games of football. And now we're back here. It's just, it's. I expected. Honestly, the gist of this is, I'm disappointed in you, Dan.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, but it's not the same offense. And I'm disappointed in you too, because you did your quarterback tears on your podcast yesterday. And what you haven't admitted to everybody, you finally admitted it once on your podcast yesterday. You had Mahomes after Lamar Jackson on your quarterback tears. Even Patrick Mahomes, most fervent biased supporter, downgraded Patrick Mahomes. You did. You put Lamar ahead of him. Don't tell me you didn't. Did you or did you? Yes or no?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Yes or no on my podcast? No, I did not. On my highly rated, very successful television show, yes, I did. And that's where we do. Not our quarterback tears, but Mahomes Mountain trademark here. And here is the thing. I have to be fair, I have to be honest. And I also, and what I took issue with was you calling me biased. I'm not biased on anything. I'm a truth teller and I'll take the slings and arrows for it. What is also true is, as I mentioned here at the beginning of our interview, what is today? Patrick Mahomes 30th birthday. What do you get the man who has everything? My answer was motivation. And I decided what better present to give Patrick than when they play the Giants this week and then who comes to town 10 days from now? Oh, is that Lamar Jackson? Is that the guy that all of a sudden I'm looking up at on Mahomes Mountain? Is that potentially possibly the thing the Chiefs need to snap out of their funk? Maybe. Also, Lamar has been great and nobody's ever doubted that. Lamar is an all time great regular season quarterback. Nobody's ever doubted that. And he's earned it.

[Billy]

That's a great gift.

[Nick Wright]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard. Show greater truth teller, Nick Wright or Pablo Torre.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because sweet Christ, do you put motivation.

[Billy]

In a box and rap it? Like, how do you present someone motivation?

[Mike Ryan]

Why does your hair look like Raz Ramones? Oh, thanks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hi, Mike. I missed you, buddy.

[Billy]

Present day Razor Ramone.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, is that See Nash or Hall? I don't remember. Did he pat?

[Mike Ryan]

He did pass. That's why Billy did that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Legend.

[Mike Ryan]

Billy's me.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am going for that. Look, by the way, the jewelry The. The hair.

[Nick Wright]

Good look.

[Dan Le Batard]

He needs a toothpick. Can I? Yeah, for sure. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah. Dan or Mike, by the way. Team Baker. Let's go, buddy. He's streaking towards the one seed, as predicted by me. The super bowl, as predicted by me. And maybe an mvp.

[Nick Wright]

He was the best third down quarterback last year. Not Patrick. He was the best third down quarterback. Tampa was.

[Mike Ryan]

Nick Wright is always right about quarterbacks. He's always maintained his support for Baker Mayfield and he does deserve to be in the MVP conversation. Continue. Nick. Can you believe that, Dan, as Patrick Mahomes, of all people, be the quarterback that's looking for the four yard drag route as if he's not the guy that is always going to be looking for the deep.

[Nick Wright]

He's not looking for it. He's just throwing that one. That's what he's throwing the last two years.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he made it to a Super Bowl.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's doing what he needs to do. Oh, wow. What a look. I like that. It's awesome. If I took my shirt off, it probably looked the same. That's a good one. I was about to tell you guys something. Pablo.

[Nick Wright]

Pablo. Pablo.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it definitely was not about motivation boxes. I'm gonna say I don't want to do the Pablo thing. It's just I. Him. Him tweeting to Mark Cuban. Oh, you have time to tweet, but not have time to come on my podcast. This is. That is fruit of the same poisonous tree. As to why I'm banned from his podcast, Pablo. And Pablo's doing great work here, but Pablo somehow got in his head that the everyone has some type of odd obligation to his podcast, like Mark Cuban. You want to opine on this and you won't do it on my podcast where I make money, where my main story, like, how dare you like the. The. It's just that list. A meaner person would call it entitlement. I wouldn't do that. It's just odd to me. Like, I don't. I. I would never imagine if I texted Levitt you, Dan, after hearing your chief's nonsense yesterday, and I was like, how dare you talk about that? Not with me, not on my platform where I can monetize it. So that part, to me is interesting. But he's. Listen, he's doing a good job. This episode is supported by FX's the Lowdown, starring Ethan Hawke. Allow us to introduce you to Lee Raybon, a quirky journalist slash rare bookstore owner, unofficial truth seeker who's always on the tail of his latest conspiracy. This time, his most recent expose puts him head to head with a powerful.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Nick Wright]

The work that Pablo Torre is doing is extraordinary, but the funny part of that particular exchange that did have some entitlement in it is that Mark Cuban is an answering questions from Channing Fry Kendrick Perkins about something that he doesn't have actual knowledge on except other Instead of talking to the person who actually can rebut some of the things that he's saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, yeah, I understand that, but I also, this. He. It's not a congressional subpoena. It. It's, it's, it's a podcast in lower Manhattan. Like I, the. I don't. You don't. Cuban can do whatever the hell he wants. Like, it's free form conversation. Can I, I don't know how much time we have. Can I say something about Tua? Have you guys talked about this?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I got one more before you get into two more.

[Nick Wright]

We have a total of four minutes left with you here. So Mike's got a question. No, we'll do, we'll do Mike's question. And then Tua, real quick, is Travis.

[Mike Ryan]

Kelsey, is he kind of skating on this? Because like Patrick Mahomes probably beats the reigning super bowl champions without his two leading wide receivers. If Travis Kelsey just holds on to a touchdown pass and ended up turning into an interception, all right, he, he hurts Xavier worthy. Week one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Travis had a rough start to the year. Listen, I now I am of the belief that Travis maybe was covering for Xavier because he said he ran the wrong route. Travis said Travis ran the wrong route, that he needed more depth. I think it's on the board that that could have been Xavier's screw up and he's covering for him, but I don't know. But that happens week one. The only thing that happens week one is when they're trying to come back late. He and Patrick have a bit of a miscommunication down by the goal line. And then obviously in week two. I agree with you, Mike. I think they win that game if he holds on to the ball. It's been a rough start to the year. I am going to give the greatest tight end in the history of the league some grace and I think he will recover from it. But yeah, I mean, it's been. And Travis, be the first to tell you, it hasn't been a great start to the year for Travis Kelce. Despite the fact that he seems, you know, kind of more agile and slimmer than last season.

[Nick Wright]

He's also old. And there's a lot on that body.

[Billy]

Wedding planning. Stressful as hell, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, how about when you say old? This is like one of my favorite facts. He and Gronk are the same age.

[Nick Wright]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like six months of each other. Yeah, that's true.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gronk retired for the first time six years ago.

[Nick Wright]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gronk retired six years ago and then retired again for good three years ago. And. And Travis is still out here, you know, churning out thousand yard or near thousand yard seasons I would say though that can't say he's not good.

[Nick Wright]

Let's we'll get to two in a second. But to expect Travis Kelsey at what is it, 36, 35, 36. He you're to expect a thousand yard season from him at 36 would be to expect something from a 36 year old tight end that 36 year old tight ends historically simply can't do. He's done it. But not at 36.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's correct. And I mean last year he had I think you know almost 900. The year before he had 980. This year he's actually on pace you know yardage wise for a thousand. But agree listen he has broken all those types of tight end records. I think Tony Gonzalez is the only old tight end to have you know, really prolific seasons like that. But right now they need him and they're going to need him until they get their guys back and they're going to need to. When when your guys season fully goes to hell. You think we can trade for a Chan? I'd like that. I'd like him more than Hill.

[Nick Wright]

You don't want Hill back?

[Dan Le Batard]

I honest to God I only because I don't want to further your narrative. I would otherwise but I so you.

[Nick Wright]

Don'T want 30 point games anymore because you're not. You don't want the 30 point offense anymore. That's always going over 30 points. That's not for you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You'd rather win in four in four years with Tyreek Hill on this team the Chiefs won one super bowl, went to two in three years without them. They've went to three Super Bowls and won two. They've been just fine. And what they need right now is a running game. To be totally honest but I know that's not all sexy for you.

[Mike Ryan]

You do have h hand. It's Prashard Smith.

[Billy]

Jalen Wright's available.

[Nick Wright]

You guys don't like Pacheco. We're done with Pacheco.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just a checko broke his leg and hat sadly hasn't been the same since then. Can I say my one to a take?

[Nick Wright]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

He can't. He's got to stop doing press conferences so bad. He's so bad at them consistently and he can't be like listen, you can't say about the quarterback you're about to play. Obviously he runs it and throws it better than I'm half the quarterback he is. I'm not, I'm not anything close. That guy man, how much fun would it be to have a quarterback that good, bro? You make almost as much money as him. You're in the same division. You can't say, you then have to at least add in be like, but he can't do what I can do. But the problem is the answer. That's nothing. There's nothing to it can do that Josh can't do. So that's a bad press conference. This is a bad one. Bad, bad, bad.

[Nick Wright]

Host of what's Right with Nick Wright and FS1's First Things First. You can watch him, as I said, First Things first, weekdays at 3pm Eastern on FS1. But I would recommend more strongly than the podcast he does with his son. Just because I love your. Your father son dynamic and I love that you're showing that side of yourself to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I appreciate that this is. Listen, I learned from the best as far as doing, you know, bring your family into your sports media orbit. So I appreciate that. I would apologize for my tone at the beginning of this and for implying that you drank too much tequila and yelling at you, but not an insult. This is dumb. You said we were done with this and I don't have the full screen up, but did you guys have this picture as like a lower bottom corner thumbnail the whole time?

[Nick Wright]

Nick, we're out of time. I'm sorry. We're out of time. We'll see you. We'll see you. We'll see you soon.

[Mike Ryan]

It seems as though the the Kansas City chief's legacy is on the line headed into Sunday Night Football against the the New York Giants, where you have a dink and dun quarterback such as Patrick Mahomes going up against a yards per attempt juggernaut in Russell Wilson just two weeks into the season. Great stat. Great stat. And let me tell you about a great place to get tickets to watch this game between the new version of Alex Smith and the new version of Dan Marino. You go to game time. You download that app, you create an account, and you use a promo code, Dan, when you're looking for tickets. All right? What you see is what you pay. You get $20 off when you use that promo code, Dan. On your first purchase. You get zone deals, you get panoramic seat views. Trust me, I use game time all the time. It is the absolute best terms apply. Swipe, tap, ticket, go.

[Nick Wright]

I'm going to betray Nick Wright right now because of how we began that interview and read a text exchange that Nick Wright and I had. I texted him simply last week the word Pablo with an exclamation point. And this was the day that he had the second Kawhi Leonard story, which I'm not going to assume is the last of the Kawhi Leonard stories. And Nick's response to that was what about him? And I'm like well he's unspooling seven month investigations while you fart clicks. And his response was counterpoint. I'm providing content that is helping provide hundreds of thousands if not millions of sports fans a fun respite in this interminable hellscape we currently live in. While he is getting applause from the absolute most boring people in the world about a story that even the most die hard NBA fans can only pretend to kind of care about. Bonus counterpoint. My farted out Mahomes takes will result in the exact same number of real sanctions as his seven months of Kawhi reporting.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zero. That party's probably right about but it.

[Nick Wright]

Is good journalism and I applaud him for it. He better get his tux ready for the 2026 Peabody's it's a real feud.

[Dan Le Batard]

My favorite part was only the most boring people care about this.

[Nick Wright]

Their feud is real. It is majestic, magisterial Ray Hudson might say, which allows me to play a Ray Hudson clip today like I will every day until the World Cup.

[Mike Ryan]

Wonderful predator inside the box.

[Nick Wright]

He did it again. And it's Vieto.

[Dan Le Batard]

Messi's magic that is bringing the curtain up. And it's Via that's bringing the curtain down. Real Madrid's defense stretched out like spandex.

[Mike Ryan]

On Miami beach and Cassias is left naked again. It's the visionary genius of Lionel Messi.

[Nick Wright]

And the precise weight of the pass.

[Mike Ryan]

That opens the white shirts up like a fresh fish.

[Nick Wright]

Do you guys know that hockey the Panthers are playing an exhibition game in four days.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan Yeah, I was sitting at the table before our pre production meeting this morning. I'm on ESPN.com I want to check out what's going on in our world. And it says right there under my favorites that the Florida Panthers have a game, a preseason game against the Predators on the date 9 21. And so I thought about it for a second. Hold on. Today I believe is 9:17. And I did some quick math and it appears to me the Panthers have a preseason game in four days. We are so back. Oh my God. That made me. Damn he's so happy. Four days.

[Nick Wright]

Did you think that you had your months wrong and that it was nine and nine was next month?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well I get confused sometimes. Is nine September is nine.

[Billy]

August.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't tell me. You always know immediately the number of the month. What's the month you get most confused with the number?

[Nick Wright]

Probably around August. September. I think that's.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, augh. Also, April's a little bit confusing to me, too.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm a little worried. I put the date down and I was like, okay, 9 to 17. I don't know what's happening.

[Nick Wright]

Why is April hard for you? I would have thought seven. I would have thought July. I would have thought something in the middle. June, July.

[Dan Le Batard]

We all have our shortcomings.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, December. Billy is the hard one for you.

[Billy]

We never got to his steakhouse. He got invited to Patrick Mahomes Steakhouse.

[Dan Le Batard]

I saw he posted pictures. 1587.

[Billy]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy]

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[Nick Wright]

Don LeBatard Mike Ryan's in there and he's the one with a baby. He's the one who's got to like, worry about what the future is. And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings because Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on putting up a billboard in Edmonton.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats. I care more about Matthew Tkachuk than I do my daughter.

[Billy]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

Foreign.

[Nick Wright]

The telephone number if you want to make the boldest take better than the boldest takes have been is 305486 Gotts 305-486-4689 every time I play some of the calls, I'm reminded of how good our competitive creative community used to be competing for with each other to have the best and the funniest of the takes. The boldest take has not quite lived up to what used to be our golden heyday. It's inconsistent, but very often it's strong. Chris how do you feel about this particular batch of boldest takes?

[Dan Le Batard]

Listeners? That's Dan's take. The shipping container appreciates the creativity you guys have shown recently in the Boldest Take hotline presented by Boost Mobile, the newest 5G network in the country. Hello, it's me, Mario. Mario.

[Mike Ryan]

Cristyball.

[Dan Le Batard]

The U is back. No, it's only been two games but Indiana Jones for Daniel Jones is the second most perfect sports nickname behind AK47. When they went from showing Marcus Freeman to showing Mike Elko in the pre game interviews, it was the biggest coaching looks discrepancy of all time. Why do gas stations still have a credit card price and for 10 cents less you can pay cash? What are we, a bunch of Dan Levitar dropping a hundy down at the counter to save 10 cents a gallon? I was just wondering if anybody else has ever had any back problems after taking a huge dump. It's not a debate. The best celebration is the big balls dance. Good ranch sauce needs to be drizzly, not thick and globby. Is most game broadcasting people just saying what you already thought just a second ago? My boldest take is that you should not be able in the NFL to put junior on your jersey unless your father played in the NFL. Stop acting like sideline reporters are real journalists. They are reporters who have literally been sidelined. You have a collect call from. Yeah, that one. Danny Woodhead here on the Patriots. But other than that, are the 49ers the greatest weight football team to ever play? Running back, quarterback, wide receiver, tight end and pass rusher. All white. To accept charges, please say yes or say no.

[Mike Ryan]

Is that guy in jail? Good take by him though.

[Nick Wright]

305486 Gotts could it have been a payphone? 305-486-4689 that's incredible.

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't notice that. Since the great Monday Night Football race war of two years ago between the Niners and Ravens, the Niners have only gotten more white.

[Nick Wright]

Billy has a football take that I haven't heard anyone else have. And he wants injuries more acknowledged during football instead of everything that's done during football to make sure that we skip right past the injuries.

[Billy]

Well, not sort of. I know I was complaining that, you know, plays result in injuries and if there's a flag, then the play doesn't count, but the injury still does count. And I don't think that that's right. You can't just, you know, pretend that a play didn't happen, but then all of a sudden someone's out six to eight months because they broke a collarbone or something. So I feel like if an injury happens, play stands. Stupid, huh? Is that.

[Dan Le Batard]

You heard me.

[Billy]

You sick? A little Sniffle. Was that. No, that was a real word. Say with your chest.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that was a real word that came out.

[Billy]

What did you say?

[Dan Le Batard]

How about you admit that you heard it?

[Billy]

I didn't hear anything. For a little boy over there making some noises. I mean, I try to cough and say things. Say it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I said something. You're playing dumb as if you didn't hear it.

[Billy]

What did you say?

[Dan Le Batard]

I listen. Five. I repeat myself.

[Billy]

Four.

[Dan Le Batard]

Three. Three.

[Billy]

One, two, one. Timeout. You're in time.

[Dan Le Batard]

That works with my daughter every time.

[Billy]

You're in timeout.

[Nick Wright]

Does it work?

[Dan Le Batard]

The countdown? Yeah.

[Nick Wright]

She's never tested you to get to the end of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just go up to your room and clean. Go.

[Billy]

Start slowing down the numbers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Clean up your room. Dad, you're still here. Graceland. Five, four. And she starts moving. Yeah.

[Billy]

One and a half.

[Dan Le Batard]

One.

[Nick Wright]

I'll repeat it for him, even though he will not do it now.

[Billy]

The time is passed down.

[Nick Wright]

He thought it was stupid what you suggested, which is a place you'd stand. I want to explore your idea, though. A broken collar if you break your collarbone to make a catch that you can't have. Offensive holding. I don't know how serious the injury has to be, but I do think there's a place where we have to allow for the play to stand because you can't cancel it based on some sort of stupidity that happened 45 yards away.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you see Jaden Reed's IG live after he came out of the surgery? He was like, we're winning the Super Bowl.

[Nick Wright]

Indiana Jones is a great name for Daniel Jones and his reinvention.

[Mike Ryan]

It's so early in the season. It's not going to last. This is looking good, boys, but this could possibly. Right. He just became like Steve Young all of a sudden.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is it possible? Daniel Jones continues to play really well and we're in week like six, seven, eight. He's really good. Maybe he's even MVP candidate. Tony. And as a result, Brian Dabel gets fired.

[Nick Wright]

I think Dabel will be fired for whatever's happening in New York now.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I like this. The Giants end up having a decent season, but they're just like, no.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because of that.

[Mike Ryan]

People did more with Daniel Jones and McDaniel did with two of them.

[Billy]

Look at what he's doing with Russell Wilson.

[Mike Ryan]

Yards per attempt. Monster.

[Nick Wright]

I don't believe that Day Ball did more than Daniel. With Daniel Jones, even though he won a playoff game.

[Mike Ryan]

That right there. He did more.

[Nick Wright]

No, but you got. That's not a stat right there.

[Mike Ryan]

A playoff win is not a stat.

[Nick Wright]

Not for just the quarterback.

[Mike Ryan]

Yards per attempt is a step of playoff wins isn't.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, playoff, yes. Yards per attempt from the person using the arm for yards per attempt. That's an isolated measurement. Playoff wins is not an isolated measurement.

[Billy]

Here's a stat. In that game, the Giants had a higher point differential than their opponent.

[Nick Wright]

It's a good stat. You've brought me around now. I agree. I now lay my sword down at your feet and say, yes, Day ball did more with Daniel Jones because he won a playoff game with Daniel Jones.

[Billy]

Dolphins haven't done that in 25 years.

[Mike Ryan]

So, like, we're laughing at this place. This Dolphin fan poo pooing.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Brian Daboll winning a playoff game wins.

[Nick Wright]

Is not a quarterback, but it's a coach station.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not a quarterback stat, but it's a coach stat. Brian Daboll 1.

[Mike Ryan]

Hang on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike McDaniel, 0.

[Mike Ryan]

It becomes a playoff stat. It becomes a quarterback stat when the quarterback also plays well in that playoff victory, which Daniel Jones did. So you can say, like Daniel Jones played really, really well as an underdog in the playoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

It should be a quarterback stat in the playoffs. I'm with you on regular season. In the playoffs, quarterback stat wins different from the regular season because it means.

[Mike Ryan]

More, you know, second to last in yards per attempt right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who?

[Mike Ryan]

Joe Burrow. What about Joe Burrow tells you he's Alex Smith.

[Billy]

Well, that's not gonna go up anytime.

[Mike Ryan]

Soon, except for his inability to stay healthy.

[Nick Wright]

So, Jay, all of you rather have Jalen Hurts than Patrick Mahomes because he won the last playoff?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm a Jalen Hurts kind of guy, though. Jalen Hurts seems to be pretty good. I'd rather have Patrick Mahomes though, because I again, to my last breath on this earth, I will know that Patrick Mahomes will looks to show off that deep arm talent that is unparalleled perhaps in the history of the game.

[Nick Wright]

First, Tony, why are you shaking your head no?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because I agree with you. But it's a bad. It's a bad position for him to be in that everybody's like, yeah, he wants to throw the ball deep. Yeah, he does. But he doesn't.

[Billy]

It was also the wrong question because if we were just saying that it's a coach's stat, the question would be, do you want Nick Sirianni over Andy Reid?

[Mike Ryan]

But Andy Reid has more Super Bowls and he's lovable.

[Nick Wright]

I do enjoy though away. I do enjoy, well, his.

[Billy]

I mean, what's his relationship with the devil.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's like a coach I would look at and say that's one guy I know. Doesn't have a dark side.

[Nick Wright]

Well, his family life is.

[Dan Le Batard]

We don't have to go there. No, we're doing.

[Billy]

No, no, no. We're just talking about the day or something.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go on.

[Mike Ryan]

He's jolly. Don't. Who are you telling? To go on?

[Dan Le Batard]

To be determined.

[Nick Wright]

What do you mean to be.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't want Dan to go down this road.

[Nick Wright]

What do you mean?

[Mike Ryan]

You might be new around these parts.

[Dan Le Batard]

We don't want Dan to be fun, man. We were having fun.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah. I just. Anytime I think of Andy Reid, I think about hamburgers.

[Billy]

Cheeseburgers. How about no Delicious.

[Dan Le Batard]

The guy going down the stairs.

[Mike Ryan]

How about this Tom Brady thing? He looked funny in those headphones.

[Nick Wright]

Is how much he enjoys Cheez Whiz. There we go. And says that he enjoys Cheez Whiz. You guys are doing the best. And it's. I think it really is my favorite of the football analysis, which is guy who wins all the time. He's the best. Or guy guy.

[Mike Ryan]

How do you do it? Yeah, whoever loses, tell me how I'm the best. Tell me how I'm stupid for doing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good formula.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Tom Brady won a lot. He seems pretty good.

[Nick Wright]

There are a lot of ways to measure individual performance rings. And you guys, when you're doing analysis of people, there is no insight in they won. Therefore, he's the best.

[Mike Ryan]

But Patrick Mahomes is the best and has been the best ever since, like, Tom Brady went away. And he also does the conventional winning. And we were doing this last year when they had a point differential that like the New York Giants. And what happened? Patrick Mahomes found a way, like, he makes the plays. He made the plays against Philadelphia. You can put that loss on literally anyone else on that roster. Not Patrick Mahomes.

[Nick Wright]

Well, what are you doing there? Because the other guys won. Like, what are you doing there? If. If wins are the quarterback stat, what are you doing where Patrick Mahomes loses.

[Mike Ryan]

And he's not responsible for merely saying, like, you're taking the strange position that the problem is Patrick Mahomes when it's very clear.

[Nick Wright]

I'm not. I'm not taking the position. The problem is Patrick Mahomes. I'm saying that team's no longer what it was on offense.

[Mike Ryan]

And I'm saying you did that last year, and they made it to a Super Bowl. And I know that that quarterback can fix it if he has his full complement of the offense.

[Dan Le Batard]

Still not the same. They can make it to the super bowl, but the offense isn't the same.

[Mike Ryan]

Let him get his receivers back, okay?

[Nick Wright]

We've been waiting for two years for that to happen, and they've been literally.

[Mike Ryan]

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