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Dan LeBatard
Welcome to the Big sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show.
Stugotz
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Dan LeBatard
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.
Stugotz
And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual liar.
Greg Cody
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Dan LeBatard
What do you imagine would be the ingredients in Infantino? What do you imagine?
David Sampson
Any gotta be a noodle or a pasta of some sort, I would think.
Dan LeBatard
I can't believe we forgot pho yesterday.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, rotini.
Greg Cody
I think there's a bean in there for sure.
Dan LeBatard
Pho is absolutely a meal, right? Pho. It can't even be disputed.
Dominique Foxworth
Like deconstructed soup, too. They give you all the pieces and then you pour the broth on top. I popped the first time I saw that.
David Sampson
Love it.
Dominique Foxworth
Get the pho out of here.
Dan LeBatard
I have a question for the group before we bring in David Sampson. None of you were as surprised as I was earlier this season when John Morant made a buzzer beater over Khalil Ware, an amazing athlet, and called him a pigeon. Called him a pigeon. And it's not something I'd ever heard someone else referred to another athlete at. After beating them. This controversy with the Panthers cane and calling the Panthers turtles. What are. I don't know what the insult is. I don't. I've not heard what it means to be a pigeon. I didn't understand that as an insult, and I don't understand turtle as an insult. And it seems like a hockey phrase that I'm being introduced to. And while I don't want to be the show that is during the game four of the Stanley Cup Final, pronouncing the names or learning how to pronounce the names of some of the players. Is it Marchand or is it Marchand? I don't know what the ruling is here.
Dominique Foxworth
So turtle, I can Google it to see what it means for hockey, but I think what he's talking about is these are all tough guys, but then when it comes time to think, down they go in their shell. And I know exactly who he's talking about. He's talking about Matthew Tkachuk, Evander Cain and Matthew Tkachuk have had a Tom and Jerry routine for the last few years. Evander Cain, once famously embroiled in a gambling scandal and all that, declared for bankruptcy. And there is a very funny video of when Matthew Tkachuk was in Calgary. Remember Flames Oilers massive rivalry going to Evander Cain. While Evander Cain is being put in the penalty box, Matthew Tkachuk chirping at him, you need some money? You need me to loan you some money? So Evander Cain's been trying to kill Matthew Tkachuk for several years. And if you remember, because of this horrible divorce public that Evander Cain's been going through, his ex wife would openly flirt on social media with Matthew Tkachuk and put out pro Matthew Tkachuk propaganda just to get under Matthew Evander Cain's skin. So when he's calling someone a turtle, the reputation of Matthew Tkachuk is he only fights the guys that are weaker than him. He'll agitate, and whenever someone comes to fight him, he'll retreat.
Mike Ryan
And Dan Pigeon, obviously you're not a real Hooper. Real Hoopers, no pigeon. You could throw the wing at them. They're just out of the way. They're flimsy, they're weak. Right. That's where a pigeon comes in. If I'm, if I'm backing down Mike in the post, that's easy work. That's pigeon stuff.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, I'm sorry. Real Hooper. My bad for not just letting you know.
Mike Ryan
Okay, but the turtle on the eve of the NBA finals. You got the NBA finals game tonight, by the way. Cheap seats, eight o' clock.
Chris Cody
I am have adopted the Panthers, but for some reason, I don't know why, I kind of like Evander Kane. Root for him. He's my second favorite player this year.
Greg Cody
Oh, don't know what you're doing.
David Sampson
Dirty, dirty player.
Dan LeBatard
Super dirty.
Dominique Foxworth
How's Matthew Kachak?
David Sampson
Man?
Greg Cody
Unless he's just a hockey player. He's like every team needs a guy.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, I like him.
Dan LeBatard
I like him. He's just a thug.
Greg Cody
He's like 20% above.
Chris Cody
Who said what. He's my second favorite player. Seth Jones, number one.
David Sampson
By the way, the slang pigeon goes back predates basketball. I dare say declare number three. A pigeon is somebody who's a sucker. You know, somebody who's naive.
Mike Ryan
Sucker. Sucker.
Greg Cody
Hardy. Are.
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Yes. Careful. Got to go.
Mike Ryan
Either soccer. Exactly.
Dan LeBatard
David Sampson. Give me the age of the person that if I were telling you they uttered in your face. Pshaw. They said pshaw to you. What is the age of that person. And please find me the history of that word. I want. I don't want to get too far away from how Cody dates the show. Get me the back in my day music so he can tell us all about his pasha. But what's the answer to my question, Sampson?
Stugotz
I would say 65 and older, and I would say that it means sort of shucks, like offshore. Aw, shucks.
David Sampson
Yeah.
Stugotz
I think those are close to synonyms.
David Sampson
That's true. It's. It can be an apostrophe, too. I think it can be p apostrophe, S, h a w. But the. I would say a synonym for pasha would be harrumph.
Dan LeBatard
No, Harrumph is younger than pasha.
David Sampson
No, I don't think so.
Dan LeBatard
No. A harrumph is absolutely by 20 years younger than a.
Greg Cody
You've got a 30 year old. I don't.
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
David Sampson
Nobody says harrum.
Dan LeBatard
No, I'm not. It's not a 30 year old. No. Harrumph is 70 years old. Pasha is 90 years old.
Mike Ryan
It's actually older than that. Dan. This might be the oldest word that Greg Cody has ever uttered in his life. And it's been used peshaw. Been used since the early 1600s.
Dominique Foxworth
Wow.
David Sampson
Wow.
Mike Ryan
I think I had a stroke there.
Dan LeBatard
And what is it. What does it mean?
Mike Ryan
Means contempt. Some sort of contempt.
David Sampson
Yeah. Good sensory 1600s.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you, Greg, for being the rock solid icon that you are.
David Sampson
You're welcome.
Dan LeBatard
David Sampson, nothing personal, handles a number of different subjects extraordinarily well now two hours a day on the draftkings network. And he is here to soil all panthers fun by telling you that, yes, the panthers are right on the precipice of becoming the Miami heat in this town. However, that is small business compared to being the Miami heat in this town. And so the Stanley cup champions defending two times with two more victories. David, how much money do they make and why does it pale in comparison to basketball? Because this kind of excellence has not been in this town over three straight years very much with any of our teams ever.
Stugotz
So if we're going to judge franchises according to their value and what they could sell for, I would say that the NBA continues to be a much healthier league in terms of what franchises are worth. And so a dynasty in the NBA is going to be way more accretive than a dynasty in the NHL on court or on ice. What I'm arguing is that if the Panthers win the Stanley cup, they are the heat on the court and on the ice. Two titles. Stanley cup in three years. But when you measure it off the court in terms of sponsorship dollar allocation in south Florida, when LeBron was doing his Dynasty with the Heat, more money was heading that way. And I don't mean carnival money, more non carnival money was heading toward the Heat than is heading toward the Panthers. More buyers, more ability for Arison to monetize that franchise in a way that the Vinnie Viola, a great owner, one of the best owners, probably the second best owner in South Florida sports history behind Mickey Arison. I would say that he just will not be able to get the appreciation. And I mean that both literally and figuratively, as the Heat got during the LeBron dynasty.
Dan LeBatard
Guys, I wanted to go and explore something here with David Sampson and the rest of you. David is not afraid to be vulnerable on his own show and give up some intimacies that are super weird, unusual, and he leaves them out there for our judgment. Your night terrors. You told me the other day that you had a terrible dream. Do you wish to share that dream with the audience.
Stugotz
Dan? So Dan and I tend to speak during strange hours when people are awake who shouldn't be awake. And I told him something in confidence that I had had a terrible, terrible I. I suffer from terrible night terrors, which is when you have nightmares and you, you basically are screaming in your sleep. And if you happen to be lucky enough to sleep with somebody, you get awoken by someone who is scared and wondering what will happen when they wake you, but you're making noises. And I. My night terrors, Dan, is I am panting and I am. It's the same one. It's a recurring night terror that I have way too often.
Dan LeBatard
What is too often? What is too often?
Stugotz
There is not a week that goes by that I do not wake up screaming.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, so you also are an insomniac. So when you reach deep sleep, there is terror there.
Stugotz
So it's why I hate sleeping, and it's why I've learned not to sleep. I view my bed. Some people love their bed. And the irony is, my algorithm on social media is all these smart beds and comfortable beds and great sheets that come with giggles. And my view of my bed is it's the devil. I don't view it as welcoming or opening like an angel. I view it as fire and brimstone. So I don't like getting into my bed. I I actually hate my bed. And when I fall asleep, what happens, Dan, is it's the same one. I'm being chased, and I'm being chased to be Captured. And what happens is there are people on the sidelines watching like it's a game, except it's not a game. I'm actually being chased. That will result in my death or my capture. And what happened the other night, Dan, is normally it is faceless, the people who are watching on the sidelines. But this time it was you and Stu Gotts who were on the sideline and it was all of Meadowlark media. But they were all blurred. Like it was some sort of HBO situation when I was a kid where it was scrambled and you had to look for an elbow and hope that it wasn't an elbow. That's what the face of metal arc media looked like. It was just people blurred. Except you and Stu were clear, like high definition. And what you were doing was you were cheering for this happening. And I was screaming and out of breath. And the next thing I knew, which is how they end, is I get woken up when I'm sleeping with somebody and it's very. It's disconcerting. So I texted you about it and it was. Thank you for bringing that up, Dan. I don't enjoy night terrors. If anyone has any suggestions.
Dan LeBatard
Horrifying. It's horrifying.
Stugotz
It's horrifying. And I. And I can. I'm not a scared person in general. I can't tell you how scary it is. It makes me feel like I'm Tom Cruise in Edge of Tomorrow where you're just reliving the same thing over and over, but it comes in different shapes and sizes in terms of where I'm being taken to, how I'm being kidnapped away or killed. And it causes me out loud, apparently, where I'm screaming and panting in a way that is off putting, unfortunately. If you can ever find someone to share that with.
David Sampson
David, have you ever explored the psychology of that particular nightmare? Because it seems like if you're a psychologist, that they would hear that and they would go, well, that that signifies this or something of that nature.
Dan LeBatard
It seems a pretty obvious one, by the way. Like that dream would. It would not take somebody who's in like interning to be a psychologist. Would. Would really. It's. That is not a profound dream. That is.
David Sampson
What does that mean, though?
Dan LeBatard
What it means is that he is surrounded at all times by mistrust that for his impending demise like that all his life he gets woken up. That everyone who surrounds him, he distrusts that those people are secretly rooting for him to die.
Chris Cody
Can I put in my application to be one of the people on the sideline. I'm trying to watch.
Dan LeBatard
This sounds hilarious.
Chris Cody
I want to Dominique Stu and Dan and get my giggles in.
Mike Ryan
I do want to push back a little bit on something David said which is he's not a scared person. Brought to you by the guy that wears anti pickpocket pants and zippers with shorts on them.
Dan LeBatard
He's got a panic room.
Mike Ryan
Also won't let me get his candy inside of his bag with my bare hand. Again, not scared of anything.
Stugotz
But let, let me, let me explain, Tony, because that's a great point that you would think would be inconsistent. Lacking trust does not equal fear. And so I don't want germs in my candy bag. I don't want to share. I don't want to use public restrooms. That's germ related. And pickpockets. Do you know what a pain in the ass it is to have to get a new license, new credit card? I don't want to do any of that. It's a waste of time. So I'm not scared of having my pocket picked. I am really deliberate about not wanting to have to do what comes next.
Chris Cody
Isn't this also brought to you by the man that when he stays at hotels sometimes it late at night goes down to the lobby so he could be around people. It's okay to be a fearful person. You're scared, it's okay.
Stugotz
So that's just. I don't like being alone. Absolutely. So I have, I guess a fear of being alone is not that I'm going to get hurt, it's the fear of what happens if I need to be woken up and I'm screaming or what happens if I stroke out and I have and I need help. Maybe that is fear, guys. Maybe I'm wrong. What do you do a scared little.
Greg Cody
Boy when you're at 2am you're like I'm lonely. When you go downstairs, what does that conversation look like with that front desk worker?
Stugotz
It's a doorman. And last night, last night at it was. It was closer to 3am because everything's an hour earlier now because the show pre production on Nothing personal is 6:25am Eastern because the show starts at 7. Last night we were talking about the Yankees and whether or not Aaron Judge will get help from Giancarlo Stanton and when that help will come because Stanton had a rehab outing in Double A last night. So we talked Yankees. And it's funny, in the city in the middle of the night there is not a lot going on except people who you really don't want to hang out with. But my doorman's awesome.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, I have a thousand questions. All right, Tony, my first question is, why were you laughing there?
Mike Ryan
Why was that the whole thing or.
Dan LeBatard
Just you were laughing throughout production?
Mike Ryan
Production meeting is at 6:25 on the dot. And Coca's never late. Is he a punctual guy? David?
Stugotz
1,000%. We're never late. We are on the zoom, getting ready for the show at 6:25am every day.
Dan LeBatard
Tony, why are you laughing at this? That he would be a punctual person who fears for his life? Why is the thing that you noticed in all of the details that he just gave us, wow, David's punctual. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Because he's afraid Coca's punctual.
Dan LeBatard
No, everyone here is punctual. Not everybody here, no, no, obviously not here. No one here is accountable for anything. But of all the stories he just told, how is the thing that you're laughing at that he's punctual?
Mike Ryan
It's just. It's a microcosm of who David is. Right? It's the zippers. It's the pants.
Dominique Foxworth
Zippers on shorts.
Dan LeBatard
Well, put that. Yes, you mentioned that. In fact, you know what?
Greg Cody
Minor penalty, two minutes stumbling.
Dan LeBatard
They are not zippers with shorts on them. Get out. You've got to leave the room. Tony. Yes, Tony, you said zippers with shorts.
Stugotz
Me?
Dan LeBatard
Yes, you. Get out.
Mike Ryan
He has zippers on shorts and I'm the one that's getting kicked out.
Dan LeBatard
You said zippers on shorts.
Dominique Foxworth
Gestapo soup.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's what you said.
Dominique Foxworth
This has stayed in that seat.
Dan LeBatard
That's right.
Dominique Foxworth
How about you fight the power?
Greg Cody
We're gonna get back to that.
Dan LeBatard
Or we will get back to that in a second. Put on the poll, please. At Levitard show, do you hate your bed? Put on the poll as well. Can you be a fearless person if you're afraid of people's hands in your candy bag? I think, David, that you've just had an enormous blind spot revealed, which is that you like to think of yourself as a fearless person. And you are fearless in many ways, in many areas. But there are many areas where you are not fearless. Where you are like what you have just described as a night terror is. And I wouldn't blame you. You would be afraid to fall asleep.
Stugotz
I'm governed by caution. But I'm also. It happens so often that I'm just. I've learned that why would I want to go to sleep if I'm able to function and do shows or Run a baseball team or run a marathon. If I'm able to do that without sleeping, then why would I put myself in a position where I'm risking the possibility, if not probability, of being chased down or kidnapped or killed? Why would I want to enter into that? I don't have, like, sex dreams. I don't have dreams where I'm floating above and everyone's loving me and I'm loving on them, like we're doing ecstasy. I don't have those dreams. So if I know that I'm having the bad ones, why would I do that to myself?
David Sampson
But here's what I can't understand. Why are you living with this recurring nightmare that causes you such pain? Why don't you seek counseling or something of that nature to try to solve the issue? I'm not even kidding here. I'm not kidding here.
Stugotz
No, I appreciate it. Greg and I have. And obviously there's been a lot of hours of therapy. But the problem is the night terrors are so far down the list, we never get to them.
David Sampson
Wow.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God. All right, so we will save those. I put off on a file to the. To the left. Because we've got a lot of things to talk about. Another day when we go through some of David Sampson's other deep issues. Yes, I'm sorry. That file cabinet to the left.
Greg Cody
You're putting it to your.
Dan LeBatard
Yes, I know.
Greg Cody
So it's art.
Dominique Foxworth
Okay, Chris is locked in again.
Dan LeBatard
Chris just put in a file camera.
Dominique Foxworth
At least I was starting to say that until his most recent contribution, Don LeBatard, is there.
Dan LeBatard
Back in my day.
David Sampson
There is, actually.
Dominique Foxworth
Were you not going to tell anyone? Wait a minute, you guys. Guys, it's a Tuesday. Stugats.
Dan LeBatard
Here's your guy, Greg Cody with Back in My Day.
David Sampson
Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery.
Dominique Foxworth
We're waiting for this one.
Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Chris, this is what I want. I want an actual file cabinet. What is that?
Greg Cody
We have breaking news. I have audio of how Brad, Mark, that guy. I don't want to give it away. I don't. If I say it, I'm going to. I now know how he says it, Chris. I now know how he says it. So if I say it, I'm going.
Dan LeBatard
To give away how he says the setup to this. David, what do you think Chris was just trying to explain there as the executive producer setting up this story?
Stugotz
I think that he was trying to tell me that he listened to nothing personal or how I dealt with it. Is I said both Marshand and Marshand during the course of a segment because I don't know which it is. So you just do both.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, so now we have breaking news. Right now you're telling me that Brad Marchand. I would call him Marchand. It seems like it would have an undercurrent of French to it. I think it would be proper to be Marchand. And I think it's been culturally appropriated that Americans have ended up making it a harder Marchand. So we're about to learn whether I'm erroneous in my reckless speculation. I say Marshawn.
Greg Cody
This was many years ago. He was asked, how do you pronounce your name?
Dan LeBatard
Brad Marchand.
Dominique Foxworth
You're right. Dan was right. But also, it's not just Americans, like Chicklets. Guys can't pronounce this guy's name with a lick. It's become Marshan. And I'm like, do I have this wrong guy? I assumed it was Marshawn, but all these hockey guys are saying Marshan.
Greg Cody
Give me that one more time, though, because it's. Is it Marshawn or Marchand?
David Sampson
He puts the emphasis on the. On the mall. Yeah.
Greg Cody
Let's listen again.
Dan LeBatard
Brad Marchand.
Dominique Foxworth
Marshmarshand.
Stugotz
Marshand.
Dan LeBatard
So everyone's saying it wrong.
Dominique Foxworth
That can't be right.
Greg Cody
Yes, he's wrong.
Dan LeBatard
He's the only one saying it right.
Dominique Foxworth
Hopefully he's not here long enough that you can actually get used to. House.
Dan LeBatard
All right, Mike, you are looking at two games away from an all time bad take.
Dominique Foxworth
What? That I don't like him? No, it's just a personal preference.
Dan LeBatard
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Greg Cody
I told you this. He's kind of back. He's backtracked on the bad player.
Dominique Foxworth
What? That he's a rotational winger?
Greg Cody
You said he was bad when he first.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, he was. He was bad. And then he got put on the third line, and the third line does what the third line does.
Dan LeBatard
Wait a minute.
Dominique Foxworth
It was incredible. That. An amazing goal that he didn't hit in. And also that open net with Stuart Skinner 15ft away from the crease. Wow. The ability.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, David Sampson, you have seen what stubborn looks like. Mike Ryan is unwilling to concede anything, even though he's looking to be all time wrong on Bradley.
Dominique Foxworth
He's a good player for them.
Stugotz
He's the MVP of the Stanley Cup. If it ends today.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, kiss my ass.
Greg Cody
I think Bennett's leader. I think Bennett's like.
Dominique Foxworth
Bennett's got the most goals in Cotton Smythe. And also, we do this Thing where Sergey the Con Smythe. He's been the most consistent player throughout the playoffs. Get out of here. With Brad Marchand, I'll pronounce it the way I want to winning Sean Smythe. Arshon, stop that. Don't. Don't let. Also, did Roy reveal that he's a member of the Pro Writers association first year for his tweets?
Greg Cody
No.
Dominique Foxworth
Where can I find his column?
Greg Cody
No votes. That's why he doesn't show. That's why Dwark has the vote for Conn Smythe.
Dominique Foxworth
Wait, how is it. But he's a part of a writer's association. Am I? Did anybody say, where do you write? Where can I find your stuff?
Mike Ryan
I thought that. I didn't say it.
Dominique Foxworth
Where does he write?
Stugotz
Let's do it.
Dominique Foxworth
Sam Reinhart. Two, one.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you. We were too busy thinking about soup to address that question. Maybe you can bring Roy in. I think it bears answering, Mike. I'm gonna have to do something, though, about when the sports argument has escalated to the highest of alerts, which is when somebody in the argument is saying, oh, kiss my ass. Yeah, I believe we've. No, no. Don't say, yeah. No.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, kiss my ass. With Brad Marche and being Con Smythe out of here, I'll say it how I want to say it.
Dan LeBatard
To end an argument just by putting the line and kiss my ass. And then no one can go over it.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, get out of here. Speaking of the most valuable player on the line.
Dan LeBatard
Kiss it. Listen to me, Lucarina.
Dominique Foxworth
Orion is Simpson. Kiss it.
Dan LeBatard
I will not abide Kiss my ass as a crossed line around here.
Dominique Foxworth
Be happy for your team. I'm happy for my team. It's a. It's a damn shame. I'm the only loyal one here. I can have a personal problem with the guy.
Dan LeBatard
Sampson, you're a lawyer who can talk your way out of any situation. Mike wants to do it. I'm not going to let him. He's two games away from an all time bad take. No matter how much he wants to talk out of the stink under it.
Stugotz
The worst part about this, Dan, is what Mike is actually doing is rooting for the Panthers to win. And for Marchand to be terrible. That would be his ideal situation.
Dominique Foxworth
Talking about I love my team. Yeah, you're. You're on a Panthers line. Go ahead and do your best. I can have a personal problem with you.
Chris Cody
I gotta say. Like, I feel like we're being a little unfair to Mike. Like, who amongst us has never been on a team or worked at a place where you wanted things to work out. There was one person in that place that you. I don't want things to work out for him. Like, I get. I get where Mike is coming from.
Dominique Foxworth
David should know he's a World Series champion. Was happy for the guys on the field. Him. Whatever. Happy. Happy that the team won. Jeffrey Lauria could do without that on his resume. It kind of chaps my ass that Jeffrey Lauria gets to be a champion forevermore. So now it's a terrible owner.
Chris Cody
Dad's got to kiss a chapped ass.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, my ass is chapped because of Jeffrey Lauria. I'm not happy for him. Happy my guys won, though. Miguel Cabrera. Mikey Lowell. Thank you.
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the pole. Is the best ass to be kissed chapter at Lebaton show.
Greg Cody
That's a poll.
Dan LeBatard
David. David.
Stugotz
Terrible poll.
Dan LeBatard
No, it's a great one. Thank you.
Dominique Foxworth
Kiss my chapped ass, David.
Dan LeBatard
I can't believe that you have escalated this conversation to that just to deflect from how wrong you're going to be. We'll get back to it.
Dominique Foxworth
Well, how am I wrong? My whole thing is I posited he's a bad person. Do you have evidence?
Dan LeBatard
You said he was a bad player.
Stugotz
I said he was a bad player.
Greg Cody
Coach and player says he's one of the best guys they've ever been around.
Dominique Foxworth
I don't care.
Dan LeBatard
Look, look.
Dominique Foxworth
There's plenty of people. There's a lot of people that are like, hey, this President, he's my guy.
Dan LeBatard
Look, Paul, Maurice with wonderful human being. That's where I draw the line. Kiss my ass style on Maurice. You're a liar. Like, that's what say it about everybody. No. No. Well, that's fine. He's wrong. Wrong and a liar.
Dominique Foxworth
Literally said it about no Sheck. And that guy is anybody.
Greg Cody
He really liked our sick people.
Dan LeBatard
Palmer is on the fumes of his own supply. He's filled with love. He's very happy. Everyone's now the best.
Greg Cody
They're really good.
Dominique Foxworth
No, the really, though, is a good Palmarese O. I was wrong about him being a rotational winger. Clearly. He's. He's been really good these playoffs. He's been a good player for the Florida Panthers. I'll. I'll happily.
Greg Cody
No one likes to admit when they're wrong.
Dominique Foxworth
No one likes admitting that they're wrong more than I am. But my main point of contention is he's a piece of garbage. And you cannot. You can pull all the data points you want, pal, to try to convince me I'm wrong. About that, but I am not wrong. Brad Marchand, garbage person.
Greg Cody
Brad Marchand.
Dan LeBatard
Brad Marchand. Okay. All right. So there we are. There we are. Garbage person. This. That's too straight. Strong, I think. And not strong enough.
Dominique Foxworth
Let's have some coffee. I'll tell you what I really think about the guy.
Dan LeBatard
Let's have some coffee.
Dominique Foxworth
We'll say it over some coffee. My feelings about Brad Marshawn don't need to be public consumption.
Greg Cody
You ever got coffee with Mike?
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah.
Greg Cody
He opens up.
Dominique Foxworth
I open up.
Dan LeBatard
Wait a minute. He just sent me over his shoulder past the file cabinet I had put to my left. He sent me over his shoulder to go have coffee with him to get his honest thoughts.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, yeah.
Dan LeBatard
I'm sure he just said he was a garbage person.
Mike Ryan
No, I'm sure those are the public thoughts, Dan.
Dominique Foxworth
No, I'm sure there are people that are like, Nevin Shapiro. I'll listen to his podcast. Good Guy. Not for me. I don't like him. Prove to me that I'm wrong about this. A personal opinion. You can. He's a rat.
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Garbage person, I believe. Okay. You called Julius Randall that. And then.
Dominique Foxworth
And I was right.
Dan LeBatard
And a couple of weeks ago. A couple. A couple of weeks ago, we put him in the hall of fame.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah. And you guys should borrow from me.
Dan LeBatard
Admit when you're wrong that one's the most wrong. That's. Yes. That was an insane thing.
Dominique Foxworth
Please cut that for the suis. There was a lone dissenting voice that aged very well.
Dan LeBatard
I. Okay. We don't need to go from what we were just talking about to celebrating you being right.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, please. It's one of my favorite scandal. The only. Look, first place, admitting I'm wrong because I'm a king that way. Second place, reveling when I'm right is chicken soup.
Dan LeBatard
The king of the chicken soups, David Sampson.
Stugotz
No, matzo ball soup is.
Greg Cody
Thank you, David.
Chris Cody
Where is my soup?
Greg Cody
We finally have the proper representation on this show.
Chris Cody
I know.
Stugotz
If you haven't had matzo ball soup. Anyone there? There's only one thing I heard you say that is so wrong that it hurts me. Gazpacho is 100% a soup. It's not even an argument. There's no one who would say it's not a soup but you, because you have some weird view of temperature as being correlated to the definition of soup, which is absolutely not.
Chris Cody
Never feel more righter than when David Sampson disagrees.
Dan LeBatard
That's correct.
Chris Cody
I love it if I know that David Sampson disagrees with me. Oh, I feel so much better about my position. Also, I'm sorry to alienate the audio only audience, but we just not going to say anything about this cashmere fatigue sports coat that he's rocking.
Dan LeBatard
Well, what do you think of his wardrobe in general? He's got a lot of jackets. Each of them makes a statement.
Chris Cody
I think he, he, he dresses like a lie. Like if you would put a lie in clothes, that's what I would imagine a dress is like. What?
Stugotz
Dominique, Stop. Stop and get the picture of Cameron Diaz off the screen.
Dominique Foxworth
You've been doing something new with your hair and the dark contrast behind you isn't really doing it. I was getting coffee, talking shit about Brad Marchand the other day and I looked at the DraftKings network. You're on now for two hours. I'm like, what is he doing? Did someone do this to him?
Dan LeBatard
He's had a glow up his introduction. I don't know. David, you can tell me how much it was focus group. You can tell me how many dissenting opinions you had. Your house of your new presentation, which has new music and a lot of flair, a lot of David Sampson flair that some people might find objectionable.
Stugotz
Well, listen, I'm all into the hate watching and the love watching, but I think if you go to the weekly meeting, you may find out that nothing personal is doing quite well. And thank you for that, Dan. Thanks for the opportunity. And what you'll notice is this is days one through six of a new haircut is when the hair looks like this and then it starts getting combed to the side starting day seven. And that goes day seven to approximately day 20 to 25.
Mike Ryan
6:25 in the morning. Don't be late.
Dan LeBatard
He's very precise. His life seems like a real horror. And it sounds to me also that Mike Ryan was rooting in that crowd of people while you were winning the Marlins championship as one of your night terrors, he was rooting against you. But for everyone else, this is why your dreams are horrors.
Dominique Foxworth
That was a pretty good example of what I'm going for here with Brad Marchand. I don't like the guy. Love the team, love the laundry. Seemingly the only person in this studio that cares about the sweater. I put the shield above all, folks.
Chris Cody
You too, folks.
Greg Cody
Marshawn. The way you can remember it, Mike is garbage. Marshawn.
Dominique Foxworth
Not for long. How about that?
Dan LeBatard
I.
Chris Cody
The whole fighting and hockey thing had me thinking last night of how it's such a thing that we accept in this particular sport. And I was wondering if we could come up with other things in other sports that would be weird in any other sports. Because Dan often likes to say what if in a basketball game? Like obviously we flip out because it's not something that's acceptable culturally in that sport and also race. But there are other sports. So I was thinking the first thing that came to mind for me was baseball managers wearing full uniforms. If we showed up to a football game and Mike Tomlin got on shoulder pads, helmets and full suit.
Dan LeBatard
Not Tomlin, it's Andy Reid. It's like you got Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin can play the part.
Greg Cody
Is that the most ridiculous? A hockey coach in full uniform.
Stugotz
Dominique, let me explain. Baseball managers are the only managers or coaches who actually go between the lines. So managers go to the pitcher's mound to make pitching changes. So you can't walk onto a field of play not wearing a uniform. That's why managers wear uniforms.
Greg Cody
What about trainers?
Stugotz
I love where your head's at. But no, trainers are only on the field in case of like emergency. It's like why doctors do not wear uniforms either. But a manager is part manager and coaches are part of your roster and they access the field.
Greg Cody
But that explanation doesn't make it less ridiculous. Like they don't. That's just a rule. They don't have to be in uniform to do that.
Mike Ryan
I've seen SPO at half court call a timeout. He's been on the field before.
Greg Cody
I like the idea of Stan Van Gundy in like a full basketball uniform. He's wearing the undershirt though, right?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, we've gotten away from David Sampson's jacket. But also Greg Cody had a killer in there that no one noticed because a stray came across the sky and it was a beautiful shot out of the black and white. 1919's of what about Connie Mack got shouted by Greg's right.
David Sampson
By the way, baseball managers didn't used to wear uniforms. I mean they wore. Not only didn't they wear uniforms, they dressed up like they were going to church on Sunday. Some of them wore straw hats and boaters and they really did it up. Why not that again, what rules? I mean there probably is a rule, but what rule should be in place that says a manager has to be in uniform to walk to the hallowed pitchers mound to make a change. Why?
Stugotz
One of the great arguments that we have had is whether or not managers can wear some non uniform stuff in the dugout and they actually get fined when they don't dress properly and they look like schleppers. By wearing the cutoffs like Belichick and what he does with the cutoff sweatshirts that is not allowed to be worn by managers. And they get spoken to by the league when they do it and get fined.
David Sampson
Yeah, because the NFL isn't a big success. I mean, nobody watches the NFL. So Belichick wearing a hoodie, that's going to kill the whole sport. What is the logical reason that says a manager has to be in uniform to walk to the mound?
Stugotz
I just think it looks bad. Let me just say what I used to love the way Tom Landry looked or Dan Reeves and I used to love when NBA coaches. Pat Riley to me was what changed the NBA in terms of style and coaches. Can you imagine for one second Pat Riley wearing a quarter zip on the sidelines? It's just patently offensive and ridiculous. And there's now 15 assistant coaches and they all look the same. And it makes me crazy. I think that they could dress up and look nicer and they should. And they get clothing allowances as part of contracts and sponsors, et cetera. But again, Pat Riley in a quarter zip? I don't think so.
Dan LeBatard
All right, David, I. I need to ask the executive producer something. That music is usually reserved for Greg Cody. It shouldn't be up while he's talking, although he was also giving antiquated opinions. We have matzo ball soup that has arrived for Dominique Foxworth. It is here. We will have a payoff at the end of this segment about whether or not it's delicious. How does it look to you?
Greg Cody
Be honest.
Chris Cody
It looks great.
David Sampson
Don't let it get cold.
Greg Cody
We're going to have minutes. That's not fair.
Dan LeBatard
Don't let it get cold.
David Sampson
It'll stop being a soup if it gets cold.
Dan LeBatard
Go ahead and have it. But I've got a problem because there are two topics I want to get to with David Sampson and. And Chris Cody. I'm going to allow you the executive producer privilege because you're on a hot streak today of making the judgment. Rick Pitino and Jay Wright have said no to the Knicks job. Mike Malone isn't a candidate according to the New York Post. So now you've got no Jason Kidd. You're being denied the ability to get a coach that's going to have more sizzle on it than Tibbs. Somebody like Rick Pitino says he's not interested. Jay Wright, he's not interested. So now you're stuck with what? What Chris Quinn, Taylor Jenkins, like what's going to happen with the Knicks or I'm not sure.
Dominique Foxworth
Or Boys on Fire today.
David Sampson
Very good answer. Accurate.
Dan LeBatard
Would you go to their funeral with David Sampson?
Greg Cody
I think you know how I'm going to play this game.
Stugotz
Dano.
Greg Cody
Would you attend their funeral with David Sampson?
Dan LeBatard
Seems like I don't know how you're going to play this game.
Mike Ryan
You just remembered F me.
Dominique Foxworth
Love a good off mic.
Chris Cody
What was that setup?
Stugotz
Me.
Greg Cody
Chris, who's gonna be the next coach of the Knicks?
Chris Cody
All right, I'm sorry.
Dan LeBatard
One topic or the other with David Sampson? I know he wants to talk about the Knicks coach, but I guess you're choosing. Would you attend their funeral? So let's play.
Dominique Foxworth
Would you attend their funeral? Carlos Alvarez.
Greg Cody
The balls are the best part.
Stugotz
Carlos Alvarez is the former mayor of Miami Dade county who got recalled after the stadium was approved and he became a bodybuilder. If you Google a picture of Carlos Alvarez today, you will not believe what he looks like. And there is. I have not spoken to him since I left.
Dominique Foxworth
You have not spoken to him since he gave you everything that you needed.
Stugotz
Exactly. So, no, I would not attend his funeral.
Dominique Foxworth
Dominic is avoiding cold for what he did for you.
David Sampson
Dan.
Greg Cody
I'm seeing the same thing you're seeing. He's avoiding the balls.
Dan LeBatard
Dominique is avoiding the matzo balls, which is the good part. That's the best part of the soup.
Mike Ryan
How's the soup?
Dan LeBatard
I mean, you're not gonna.
Greg Cody
I mean, you just call him a meme.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. What?
Dominique Foxworth
He's an.
Greg Cody
I mean.
Mike Ryan
Exactly. Thank you.
Chris Cody
The soup.
Dominique Foxworth
He's also in our Panther chat.
Chris Cody
The soup itself, that was for sure in a meme.
Mike Ryan
It was not in the meme.
Stugotz
Stumbling.
Dominique Foxworth
You want to admit when you're wrong, it's okay with me.
Greg Cody
Why would you throw everything?
Dan LeBatard
How's the soup?
Dominique Foxworth
I mean, this is a safe for admitting when you made a mistake.
Mike Ryan
That's crazy.
Chris Cody
I tried to have you back, Dog.
Stugotz
Would you offer someone a keta from a Jewish deli?
Dan LeBatard
Croqueta.
Dominique Foxworth
Croeta.
Dan LeBatard
No, that's not how you call it.
Dominique Foxworth
A.
Dan LeBatard
That is not how you said croqueta, and I called it the Gestapo earlier.
Stugotz
You can't give a matzo ball soup from anything but a Jewish deli and ask him to judge.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Where did we get.
Dan LeBatard
Where did you just say CRO?
Stugotz
I thought it was crohetta. Croaky. Croedetta. Oh, croquetta.
Dominique Foxworth
Coretta. And I could see inflating.
Greg Cody
That's probably what happened.
Dominique Foxworth
If you know who Carlos Alvarez is and what he went through to get David his stadium, it Is an amazing revelation that David's like, I'm not going to his funeral.
Dan LeBatard
Let's thank you for that photo. Thank you guys for giving us some visual aids to what it is that we're talking. He's going to leave a good course, David.
Greg Cody
It's from roasters and toasters. So they did get it from the right place.
Stugotz
Okay. Are they floaters or are they sinkers?
Dan LeBatard
I mean, it's just a giant, shallow bowl.
Greg Cody
Hard to tell.
Dan LeBatard
Giant bowls.
David Sampson
Too big. The bowls.
Dominique Foxworth
Bob Dupuis.
Stugotz
It's Bob Dupe.
Dominique Foxworth
No, no. So this is intelligence again. Yeah, no, it's. It's D U P U Y. I don't care. I don't care what you thought it was. I thought it goes by dupe, but that is not the pronunciation of. That is Dupuy.
Greg Cody
Get me that audio.
Stugotz
I will be going to Bob Dupe's funeral no matter where it is, and I expect that it will not be close to where I am, though there is a chance it's in Florida somewhere, though I'm not there at that moment. But I will work it into trying to come to the Miami studio. But yes, Bob Dupe, 100%. I will be at your funeral.
Dan LeBatard
Why are you talking directly to him?
Stugotz
Because he likes your show.
Dominique Foxworth
Bob Dupuis, Manny Diaz senior, to pay Manny Diaz senior toupe.
Stugotz
That depends when he dies. So we have a relationship. Well, that's very important. If he dies during one of our times that we're not getting along, then I won't go. But if he dies during a time when we're Smelkis, then I would go. So again, that will be very time dependent whether I go to Manny's funeral.
Dan LeBatard
What a smelka is it?
Stugotz
What is Schmelkus Loving together. All good.
Dan LeBatard
One more thing here before we let David Sampson go and we can all critique this together and we can all watch the verdict or get the verdict from Dominique on the matzo ball soup, even though he didn't eat the matzo, which is cheating, and he's afraid of being called anti Semitic.
Greg Cody
Delicious. I also have matzo ball. I also have the replay of what Tony said if we want to relate it, which was.
Mike Ryan
I mean.
Dan LeBatard
All right, so wait a minute. So you and Tony were laughing in the back room there, and I wanted that show. I wanted the show that. That Dominique and Tony were laughing about there. What was so funny?
Mike Ryan
A couple of things, Dan. We had the jump shot, and Dominique was like, how do you remain a means friend with that jump shot? You know, Long story, viral decontextualization and whatnot. But we were also commenting on the texture of said matzo ball. And me. And me and Dominique were looking at.
Chris Cody
Him being like, careful, and we were saying that it looks delicious. Some great texture, and it probably is incredibly yummy.
Mike Ryan
Probably the textures.
Dan LeBatard
You're just not going to eat it. So then.
Chris Cody
Absolutely going to eat it is a.
Greg Cody
Mushy texture, but it can't be the.
Dan LeBatard
Best soup if you're not willing to eat all of it. Anyway, here it is, the new opening to David Sampson's new show. You guys tell me what you think. David Sampson, you tell me how this has gone over with everyone. Nothing Personal. Every day, two hours long. This is how it's introduced to you every day. David works very hard on this. This is a stylistic choice, like his jacket. David is purposeful about the details. Here's the opening to David Sampson's show.
Stugotz
No.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, this kind of feels like your funeral.
Greg Cody
Gotta have Bob O'Reilly. The Dominique hug has to be in here. Come on.
Stugotz
Nah.
Dominique Foxworth
Give it to me royalty free. The who? I love this.
Stugotz
Ooh.
Dominique Foxworth
Come on.
Dan LeBatard
What is that?
Greg Cody
Give me the hug. No hug. No hug.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah. For the audio audience, it felt like David Sampson had died and we were putting together a tribute, basically.
Greg Cody
I don't think that's going.
Dan LeBatard
I don't think that's the Open to a show.
Dominique Foxworth
Teenage ways.
Mike Ryan
Talk about a UFC fight.
Dominique Foxworth
This is absolutely royalty free.
Greg Cody
Ah, look at these photos.
Dominique Foxworth
Look at this.
David Sampson
Look at this.
Greg Cody
Lie, lie, lie.
Dominique Foxworth
Look at all those shirts from Cam.
Dan LeBatard
Good.
Dominique Foxworth
Modern family.
Dan LeBatard
Wow.
Greg Cody
Look at that.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God.
Dominique Foxworth
I dig it.
Stugotz
Dan, you missed something very important. The 30 second countdown is required at YouTube, where we're live at 7am that is not the show open. That's the countdown. Instead of just having a countdown from 30, which with nothing to look at, there's something to look at. And that's where that comes from. The opening comes when the 30 second clock goes to zero. That second, 20 seconds. That's the actual opening to Nothing personal.
David Sampson
So.
Mike Ryan
So you're putting videos together and you're like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take a video of me putting something on a table 11 times at the city winery. That's what I'm going to use.
Dan LeBatard
Let's hear Tony call. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Chris Cody
I know what they're gonna want to see. They want to see me get a haircut.
Dominique Foxworth
Hey, tell a team of video producers. Humanize me.
Chris Cody
Hey, check out my shirt collection. Look at all my shirts and jackets.
Stugotz
Anything else?
Dan LeBatard
Let's hear Tony calling Dominique Amin.
Mike Ryan
How's the soup of me?
Dan LeBatard
You're not gonna.
David Sampson
Oh, yeah.
Dan LeBatard
That's crazy.
David Sampson
Yeah, guilty.
Mike Ryan
How's the soup of me?
Dan LeBatard
You're not gonna.
Mike Ryan
I mean, I. Speak quickly, I mean.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: The Big Suey: Night Terrors (feat. David Sampson)
Release Date: June 11, 2025
In this engaging episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan LeBatard and Stugotz delve into a mix of heated sports debates, personal anecdotes, and light-hearted segments. Featuring a guest appearance by David Sampson, the conversation spans from controversial remarks in the hockey world to the deeply personal topic of night terrors. Additionally, the show includes humorous interactions, debates over player reputations, and a fun segment on matzo ball soup.
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about recent events in the hockey world, specifically focusing on John Morant’s controversial buzzer-beater over Khalil Ware, where Morant referred to Ware as a "pigeon." This term sparked confusion and backlash among the hosts and listeners.
Notable Quote:
Dan LeBatard [01:08]: "I have a question for the group before we bring in David Sampson. None of you were as surprised as I was earlier this season when John Morant made a buzzer beater over Khalil Ware, an amazing athlete, and called him a pigeon."
Stugotz and the team dissect the meaning behind these insults, comparing them to similar terms like "turtle." Dominique Foxworth attempts to clarify, linking "turtle" to players like Matthew Tkachuk and Evander Kane, suggesting it implies toughness that crumbles under pressure.
Notable Quote:
Dominique Foxworth [03:13]: "So turtle, I can Google it to see what it means for hockey, but I think what he's talking about is these are all tough guys, but then when it comes time to think, down they go in their shell."
The conversation expands into a broader critique of player behaviors and reputations, with specific attention to Brad Marchand. Dominique vehemently labels Marchand as a "garbage person," igniting a spirited debate among the hosts.
Notable Quote:
Dominique Foxworth [24:04]: "My main point of contention is he's a piece of garbage. And you cannot... you can pull all the data points you want, pal, to try to convince me I'm wrong about that, but I am not wrong. Brad Marchand, garbage person."
Transitioning from sports controversies, the show takes a more personal turn as Stugotz opens up about his struggle with night terrors. He describes the terrifying experience of recurring nightmares where he is chased and threatened with death or capture, even seeing familiar faces like the hosts in these dreams.
Notable Quote:
Stugotz [08:00]: "When I fall asleep, what happens, Dan, is it's the same one. I'm being chased, and I'm being chased to be Captured. And what happens is there are people on the sidelines watching like it's a game, except it's not a game. I'm actually being chased. That will result in my death or my capture."
The hosts express empathy and curiosity, with David Sampson questioning why Stugotz hasn't sought more focused psychological help despite undergoing therapy. The discussion highlights the stigma and challenges surrounding mental health, especially for public figures.
Notable Quote:
David Sampson [11:13]: "But here's what I can't understand. Why are you living with this recurring nightmare that causes you such pain? Why don't you seek counseling or something of that nature to try to solve the issue?"
Stugotz explains that while he has received therapy, night terrors remain a low-priority issue despite their impact on his quality of life and work.
Returning to sports, the hosts continue their passionate debate over Brad Marchand's character and performance. Dominique stands firm in his negative opinion, while others challenge his stance, citing Marchand's contributions and popularity within the sport.
Notable Quote:
Greg Cody [25:00]: "Brad Marchand. Okay. All right. So there we are. There we are. Garbage person."
The debate intensifies as Dominique defends his viewpoint, refusing to be swayed by statistics or testimonials from other players and coaches who regard Marchand positively. The exchange underscores the subjective nature of sports fandom and player evaluations.
Notable Quote:
Dominique Foxworth [24:43]: "But my main point of contention is he's a piece of garbage. And you cannot... you can pull all the data points you want, pal, to try to convince me I'm wrong about that, but I am not wrong. Brad Marchand, garbage person."
Amidst intense discussions, the show intersperses lighter segments to balance the tone. The "Back in My Day" segment features nostalgia-inducing conversations about past sports eras and memorable moments.
The hosts then introduce a fun segment centered around matzo ball soup. They inspect and humorously critique the appearance and texture of the soup, playfully debating its merits without actually tasting it.
Notable Quote:
Stugotz [26:37]: "Anything else?"
Dan LeBatard [26:03]: "How's the soup?"
The segment culminates with the hosts humorously evaluating David Sampson's show's new opening sequence, comparing it to a funeral tribute due to its somber tone.
Notable Quote:
Dominique Foxworth [40:30]: "For the audio audience, it felt like David Sampson had died and we were putting together a tribute, basically."
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in playful teasing and inside jokes, enhancing the camaraderie and entertainment value of the show. From poking fun at Stugotz's punctuality and wardrobe to ribbing each other over pronunciation mishaps and personal quirks, the banter adds a relatable and humorous layer to the discussions.
Notable Quote:
Greg Cody [15:22]: "You said zippers on shorts."
Dan LeBatard [15:24]: "Get out. You've got to leave the room."
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully weaves together intense sports debates with personal revelations and humorous segments. The discussion ranges from dissecting controversial remarks in hockey to exploring the deeply personal issue of night terrors, all while maintaining a dynamic and engaging atmosphere. Notably, the hosts’ ability to balance serious conversations with light-hearted banter ensures a well-rounded and captivating listening experience for both regular fans and new audiences.
Key Takeaways:
Sports Controversy: The use of derogatory terms like "pigeon" and "turtle" in sports slurs sparks significant debate and confusion, highlighting the complexities of athlete interactions and reputations.
Mental Health Awareness: Stugotz’s openness about his night terrors brings attention to the importance of mental health support, even for those who appear strong and fearless.
Subjective Fandom: The passionate debate over Brad Marchand exemplifies how personal biases and experiences shape sports fandom and player evaluations.
Balanced Content: The inclusion of humorous and lighter segments ensures the show remains entertaining and relatable, catering to a diverse audience.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Dan LeBatard [01:08]: "I have a question for the group before we bring in David Sampson. None of you were as surprised as I was earlier this season when John Morant made a buzzer beater over Khalil Ware, an amazing athlete, and called him a pigeon."
Dominique Foxworth [03:13]: "So turtle, I can Google it to see what it means for hockey, but I think what he's talking about is these are all tough guys, but then when it comes time to think, down they go in their shell."
Stugotz [08:00]: "When I fall asleep, what happens, Dan, is it's the same one. I'm being chased, and I'm being chased to be Captured. And what happens is there are people on the sidelines watching like it's a game, except it's not a game. I'm actually being chased. That will result in my death or my capture."
Dominique Foxworth [24:04]: "My main point of contention is he's a piece of garbage. And you cannot... you can pull all the data points you want, pal, to try to convince me I'm wrong about that, but I am not wrong. Brad Marchand, garbage person."
David Sampson [11:13]: "But here's what I can't understand. Why are you living with this recurring nightmare that causes you such pain? Why don't you seek counseling or something of that nature to try to solve the issue?"
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing a clear and engaging overview for listeners seeking to understand the key discussions and dynamics at play.