The Big Suey: Now Wait Just One Second with LaTroy Hawkins

Summary

Summary of "The Big Suey: Now Wait Just One Second with LaTroy Hawkins"

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz aired its episode titled "The Big Suey: Now Wait Just One Second with LaTroy Hawkins" on July 8, 2025. Hosted by Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and featuring regular contributor David Sampson, the episode delved into a variety of sports-related topics, interspersed with lighthearted banter and interactive segments. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key discussions, insights, and notable moments from the episode.

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Opening Banter and Tequila Advertising (00:01 - 01:04)

The episode commenced with Dan Le Batard humorously referencing the history of tequila, specifically Cuervo, lightening the mood before transitioning into promotional content.

Notable Quote:

• Dan LeBatard (00:01): "Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila."

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Interactive Segment: Real or Fake Podcasts (09:44 - 28:05)

One of the episode's highlights was the interactive game "Real or Fake Podcasts," where David Sampson was challenged to discern authentic baseball podcasts from fictional ones proposed by the hosts.

Key Points:

• Three Up, Three Down with Hunter Green: Identified as fake due to the unlikely nature of Hunter Green hosting a podcast.
• Heckles D's with Adam Jones: Initially claimed as real by Sampson, later revealed to be fictional, referencing past critiques by Stugotz.
• The Compound with Ian Happ: Debated as possibly real, but ultimately considered fake.
• Now Wait Just One Second with LA Troy Hawkins: Misled Sampson into guessing it as fake based on naming conventions.
• The Thing is with Nyjer Morgan: Sampson initially believed it to be real but it was clarified as fictional.
• Batter's Eye with Brian Roberts: Concluded to be fake, emphasizing the implausibility of Brian Roberts hosting such a podcast.

Notable Quote:

• Dan LeBatard (11:59): "Now wait just one second with LA Troy Hawkins."

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Discussion on the Miami Marlins' Road Winning Streak (14:06 - 17:36)

The conversation shifted to baseball, focusing on the Miami Marlins' impressive 10-game road winning streak. The hosts debated the implications of such performance for a young team.

Key Points:

• Youth vs. Experience: Stugotz posited that a young team's consistent performance suggests potential for growth, whereas Sampson argued it might be a temporary hot streak susceptible to regression.
• Team Potential: Discussion on whether the current performance indicates a genuinely strong team capable of contending in the latter half of the season.
• Owner's Strategy: Speculation on the Marlins' ownership contemplating adding veteran players to complement the young talent without disrupting the team's chemistry.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (15:09): "You can get better over the second half of the season that you've got such a young team."
• David Sampson (16:10): "Yeah, that's total recency bias, Dan..."

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Conflict and Controversy: Perry Hill's Reputation (30:33 - 42:23)

A significant portion of the episode involved a heated debate between David Sampson and Stugotz regarding Perry Hill, a respected infield coach in baseball circles. Sampson openly criticized Hill's professional conduct, while Stugotz defended his reputation.

Key Points:

• Sampson's Accusations: Claiming Perry Hill manipulated game statistics to favor his players, thereby compromising the integrity of the game.
• Stugotz's Defense: Argues that Perry Hill is renowned for his friendly demeanor and positive relationships within the media, questioning Sampson's negative portrayal.
• Impact on Relationships: The conflict highlighted personal tensions between the hosts, leading to intense exchanges and strained interactions during the show.

Notable Quotes:

• David Sampson (34:58): "Why would I go to the funeral of someone who made my life miserable day in and day out..."
• Stugotz (36:26): "This is how you know they're fake, though..."

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Movie Review: The Train Wrecked Episodes (33:27 - 40:32)

In the "Review the Movie" segment, David Sampson shared his thoughts on "The Mayor of Mayhem," comparing it to a "Saturday Night Live" skit featuring Chris Farley. The film's portrayal of Mayor Rob Ford's tumultuous tenure in Toronto was critiqued for its exaggerated depiction of personal struggles and public scandals.

Key Points:

• Character Analysis: Sampson found the mayor's denial and subsequent admission of wrongdoing to be both entertaining and reflective of real-life controversies.
• Cultural Impact: The film was noted for its satirical take on political figures struggling with personal demons, resonating with audiences familiar with similar real-world events.

Notable Quotes:

• David Sampson (36:36): "I kept thinking I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit with Chris Farley."

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Promotions and Advertisements (Throughout the Transcript)

The episode included multiple promotional segments for sponsors like Cuervo, State Farm, and DraftKings. These were characterized by their entertaining delivery but are not the focus of this summary.

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Closing Segment and Final Thoughts (41:11 - 42:23)

The episode concluded with a final exchange between the hosts, returning to lighter topics and reiterating the show's branding. The tension from the earlier controversy softened as the conversation wrapped up.

Notable Quote:

• Dan LeBatard (42:05): "Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly."

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Conclusion

"The Big Suey: Now Wait Just One Second with LaTroy Hawkins" showcased the dynamic interplay between Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and David Sampson. From engaging games and in-depth sports analysis to unexpected conflicts, the episode provided listeners with a comprehensive blend of entertainment and insightful commentary. Despite the contentious moments, the hosts maintained their signature humor and candidness, ensuring a memorable episode for their audience.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila.

[David Sampson]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you doing here?

[Stugatz]

Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Stugatz]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugatz]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo.

[Stugatz]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly.

[Stugatz]

Cuervo.

[David Sampson]

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[Greg Cody]

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[David Sampson]

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[Greg Cody]

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[David Sampson]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[David Sampson]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[David Sampson]

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[Stugatz]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to.

[David Sampson]

The other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry.

[Stugatz]

I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Dan LeBatard]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Stugatz]

David Sampson is going to join us in moments. I do want to start a segment. Something fishy. Okay. Because Greg Cody is alleging something fishy here in the Samuel family podcast. He is There. That's. That's got to be out there already, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Hosted by Marty Fish.

[Stugatz]

There was a podcast. Stugatz was trying to sling some Andy Roddick Marty Fish podcast idea together. I think he was calling it Dick Fish or something. Somebody's got to ask him. He had an idea. Why are you making that face, Zaslow?

[David Sampson]

It's a funny name for podcasts.

[Stugatz]

It's probably taken.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love how Sugatz fleshes out ideas. Hey, Travis Kelce should have a podcast. Yeah, that's your idea, man.

[Stugatz]

Yeah. Well, David Sampson has stolen something made popular Stugatz. He played the game recently with Stan Van Gundy. Stan Van in or Stan Van Out? That makes no sense.

[David Sampson]

Who did I steal that from?

[Stugatz]

Well, I don't know, but that's a game that sort of is played by Billy and Stugots, except they're more clever with the word play that Stan Van in and Stan Van out, which doesn't make any sense.

[David Sampson]

Stu has just claimed that he cornered the market on those type of hacky titles for games. Well, he also claimed that he came up with the designated batter rule. So you know, it is what it is. Stan was a great guest. I appreciated the, the metal arc help and having him join and we do a guest every Tuesday and Thursday. We just had Bobby Valentine on today which was fun to talk to him. And Stan, we just were talking about issues actually of today's NBA and what his views were and whether he was in or out. I like the movie in and out so I don't think Stu came up with that great flick.

[Stugatz]

What are your thoughts on what it is that we were just discussing here with Pat Riley? And I don't. I'm not necessarily interested in what you think of the Norman Powell trade, but do you guys know that old Sampson ran into Pat Riley here in Italy? He was that. Did, did Sampson, did he put that out in public or was that a private thing?

[David Sampson]

I, I put that out. I, I posted a picture. I believe I either sent it to you or posted it. I'm trying to remember which. But we ran into each other at a Springsteen concert in Milan and we were in a pre concert area called the E Street Lounge and there he was and there I was and we locked eyes from across the room. Easy for him to me to lock eyes with him because he was the tallest person in the room and I wasn't. And, and there was some context issues other than the fact we've seen each other at Springsteen concerts for years and years and years and we immediately got to talking about what it is for runs to come to an end and how you deal with that because query. Were we at the last Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band concert and what does that mean to us and what is it to run a team where you know that your run is over? How do you try to hang on. And this was pre Powell. I was. He did not mention the Powell trade to me at all. But we certainly did talk about what it is to really have good self awareness about your team.

[Stugatz]

What did he say? And you're making it sound like you two were talking as peers. It like you, Bruce and him.

[David Sampson]

No, no, Springsteen was not there.

[Stugatz]

No, I know but the way that you're framing it. It sounds like the conversation you're immediately going to. You buried a, a time in your career and reinvented yourself in a new medium. And it sounds like you were putting yourself in the company of Pat Riley and Bruce Springsteen.

[David Sampson]

So. So Dan, I can only tell you that, that Pat Riley and I have known each other for a very long time and have spoken about running teams because we both ran teams. And so I don't, I don't, I can't be a peer of a Hall of Famer. He's the greatest to ever do it, both in my mind as a coach and as an executive. So we're in the same industry I would say. But I would not call him my peer, but I'm thankful to call him a good acquaintance. I wouldn't call him a friend because I don't throw that word around as much as some other people I know. But, but a good acquaintance. But we did get into a deep conversation while waiting for the Springsteen concert.

[Stugatz]

To start and Chris Cody was interested in what he had to say. He wants you to spill secrets on how Pat Riley told you and as if it were breaking news that an 80 year old man might be contemplating.

[David Sampson]

Whatever is the well, so, so I like how you try to put death as part of, you know, cast over every one of your interviews as it relates to people who are octogenarians. But Pat Riley was not thinking about death by any stretch. We were thinking about life and we were about to watch a 75 year old rock for three hours and we were in awe of that. And the conversation was based on not the end of his life or my mortality or my hypochondria. It was actually based on when you are putting a team together, whether it's Meadowlark, whether it's on air, whether it's an on court team. How do you know when you've gone too far? How do you know when you don't have the right pieces around you and when are you able to admit it? And we were talking about free agency and the trade deadline and all of these things. So peer, I think is not relevant to the conversation. What's relevant is Pat Riley acknowledging with me that that that is the hardest thing to do. No matter who you are, hall of Famer or schlepper, the hardest thing to do is to have enough self awareness to recognize your failings. All right, you gave it to us at the end a little there. I want to know what he said.

[Stugatz]

Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out on Juan Stto should be.

[David Sampson]

An All Star in Stan Van In. He. He's. He can't be the player of the month for the one of the three months that happened before the All Star Game. The best player and not be an All Star. But he will be an All Star. There's so many replacements that will be coming. I promise you. Juan Soto will be in Atlanta.

[Stugatz]

Are you stand Van in or Stan Van out on Mike Brown as the new coach of the Knicks?

[David Sampson]

Couldn't be more Stan Van out that as a Knick fan. I am despondent beyond repair because there's no way that Mike Brown's name is going down in history with Red Holzman. Mike Brown with his championship pedigree. Give me a small break. This has Dolan written all over it. We knew on nothing personal was an official wait to see that Dolan would hire someone with experience because that's what he would rely on as some way to keep sort of the vision alive that he knows what he's doing. I don't think Mike Brown is the answer. I think Tibbs was the answer. And the fact that they got rid of him just shows that Dolan is being impetuous with which I'm very familiar with. And it doesn't lead to championships.

[Stugatz]

Wait a minute. Impetuous sounds like it's combining impetuous and incestuous.

[David Sampson]

So I love where your head is, the word salad of that. Impetuous is a compound word that is meant to indicate that is someone who is both incestuous and impetuous.

[Stugatz]

I don't believe that's true in any way. I believe that you're faking your way through that. I believe that that was a bullshit word of yours. Impetuous is not a word. And you just went and told us and this was funny. Did you guys hear this or did hear it? He gave us an official wait to see. There was an official wait to see that David Sampson declared it is one of the worst catchphrases I've ever heard.

[David Sampson]

Wait. Thank you, Dan.

[Stugatz]

Wait. No, but it is. And look, you can't imagine. You cannot imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, doing a movie and the poster is wait to see. Yeah, like, I understand what you're. What you're doing there. You're being fair. You're being reasonable. What is an official wait to see? For those who are not familiar with the nothing personal parlance and what it means to be an official wait to see.

[David Sampson]

It means that we're actually accountable for what we do on the show, and you can go to David Sampson, podcast.com and we have a document. It's a tracking document with every one of our picks where we. You'll see whether I got the pick right or wrong. Because we pick a game every day, every movie I've reviewed, and every wait to see, which is when we tell you something's going to happen. And if it does, okay. If it doesn't, okay. But we'll revisit it to say we were right or we were wrong. Not a lot of accountability in the fake podcast world.

[Stugatz]

Okay? So we thank you for bringing that up. We have got a new game for you that we're. We're tearing through the charts. We're flying off the charts with this new game that we're playing. These are baseball podcasts or not? Are they real or fake? Are you ready to do this? Does this have the same music or different music? Roy, hit it.

[Dan LeBatard]

So 80s David, we will ask you if these podcasts are real or fake. The first one up is three up, three down with Hunter Green.

[Stugatz]

Why'd you take Hunter Green?

[Dan LeBatard]

He's not a talker like three up, three down.

[Stugatz]

I know, but why do you.

[Dan LeBatard]

With Hunter Green?

[Stugatz]

He would have no reason to be doing a podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is fake.

[David Sampson]

I answered it before you finished the question. Jeopardy style. I hit the buzzer.

[Stugatz]

I know.

[David Sampson]

Fake.

[Stugatz]

He's showing his lack of knowledge on Hunter Green and he just wanted to say the name Hunter Green.

[Dan LeBatard]

Next one up, Heckles D's with Adam Jones. Fake.

[David Sampson]

Fake.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is a real podcast.

[David Sampson]

Heckles D. Let me call Stu and see if it's on the charts.

[Stugatz]

No, wait a minute. You got it wrong. Don't. Don't. He's telling you it's real.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is a real podcast. Heckle D's.

[Stugatz]

You're not.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, that was a throwback reference to Stu criticizing, nothing personal for not being on the charts. Thank you, Dan.

[Stugatz]

What happened? You and Stuart beefing you.

[David Sampson]

You were actually the center of it. You were there. You were a part of it when you were there.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, the compound with Ian Happ. The compound with Ian.

[Stugatz]

Why was I there? Was I there?

[Dan LeBatard]

What is the compound? You're the leader of the show with Ian Happ. A real podcast. He's in a compound. The compound with Ian Happ.

[David Sampson]

I believe that Ian Happ does have a podcast. I don't know its name, but I'm gonna go real on that.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is real.

[David Sampson]

Ian Happ hit the home run on opening day that Dan swallowed.

[Stugatz]

Billy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Next one. Now, wait just one Second with LA Troy Hawkins.

[David Sampson]

Too long. I'm going fake.

[Stugatz]

It would be wait just one second.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but it would now wait just one second.

[David Sampson]

Then now gave it away. Mike, he can't start with now.

[Stugatz]

He just. He just wanted to make us laugh with the name LA Troy Hawkins and he got Roy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now wait just one second with LA Troy Hawkins.

[David Sampson]

Wasn't LA Troy Hawkins like a great hold guy? Wouldn't it be like hold up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hey man, don't do it.

[David Sampson]

Be called hold up. Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is a great name for a podcast. Now wait just one second.

[David Sampson]

It is good with an exercise.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is fake. How about the thing is with Nigel Morgan.

[Stugatz]

That should be with Pablo Torre Morgan.

[David Sampson]

I believe that that one is actually real. I'm going to go real for a dollar. Alex.

[Dan LeBatard]

The thing is with Nyjer Morgan is not a real podcast.

[Stugatz]

No shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Guy that fought Chris Volstead side retired. Hosted by various middle relief pitchers.

[Stugatz]

That's a good podcast.

[David Sampson]

Because it's various relief pitchers. That sounds more reasonable to me that people wouldn't want the grind of a daily podcast. So I'm going to go real for that as well.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is real. Wow. And finally, Batter's Eye with Brian Roberts.

[David Sampson]

That is also real. Although I don't know that it's Brian Roberts who does it. But there is a show called Batter's Eye, but it's very impetuous.

[Dan LeBatard]

There is no podcast called Batter's Eye with Brian.

[Stugatz]

David Sampson is truly terrible at this game. Everyone is. It's sweeping the nation. Thank you, Mike. Please prepare for the end of this segment as quickly as you can. Would you attend their funeral? Because that's. That's the hottest new game that we have around here. David Sampson is the only one anywhere who plays it well. Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out on the Marlins winning 10 straight road games? Suggest that this is actually going to be a good young team down the stretch.

[David Sampson]

I am Stan Van in that it's a great accomplishment that I never was able to accomplish 10 in a row on the road. They are down to seven games under.500. There's still got a lot of teams to climb over in the wild card. I am stand Van out that they will be a wild card team. But I'm Stan Van in that there are major conversations happening between the owner and the president, baseball ops, Bruce Sherman and Peter Bendix, whether or not they should do a little bit of adding with their selling because if they stay this hot, you know, it could lead to excitement which often leads to tears. However, if Sandy Keeps pitching well and someone makes a huge offer, Peter's going to take it. What this 10 game road winning streak has done in winning these series in a row, like six or seven in a row, it's made it. So they're not going to settle for crap return for Sandy just to move the money. They're going to wait for a real return and then if they keep them, they keep them for the rest of the season.

[Stugatz]

All right, David, let me, let me just bring something up here because nobody actually nationally wants to hear about the Marlins, but more theoretically as it comes to baseball teams. Okay. The original Marlins team, I think started 30 and 31 and couldn't keep it up, lost 100 games because it was an old team of veterans. And it's a long season. But when a young team does on the road what they've just done against good teams like this isn't getting fat on anybody who's not good. When you win 10 straight games against the teams that they're playing against, all winning teams and you're young, it suggests to me that you can get better over the second half of the season that you've got such a young team that it actually might be good, that this isn't a team getting hot, that this is a team that has enough young talent that if the pitching stays healthy, it's something that you can count on them to hit.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, that's total recency bias, Dan, because there's a bunch of streaks that happen during the course of a season where you think like, wow, remember at the beginning of the season, the Pirates were maybe playing better, the Reds were playing fine, and then there was a time when the Blue Jays were out of it and done and now they're three games up.

[Stugatz]

Are they good or not? Are they good or not?

[David Sampson]

The Marlins have good pieces. There's no question they've done a great job, but they way better than Jeter, obviously, in getting stuff back and getting young players. The question is, when do you sprinkle it with veterans in order to make the complete team ready to make a run into October? And I think the ownership group will say, not now.

[Stugatz]

I asked you a Stan Van In, Stan Van out question. You gave me three different answers without answering the one. I was asking you, is this a good team? Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van Out?

[David Sampson]

Stan Van Out.

[Stugatz]

Okay. You don't believe it Because I believe young players who are hitting can get better over the course of a season. You might think they fade. You might be.

[David Sampson]

I just think there's there's regression. You don't. They're. They're very hot and it's great. I love watching it. I don't want Coca the producer, my steam producer, accuses me of always yucking on people's yum as though that's the currency we trade in on. Nothing personal. That's not correct. It's cool when your team is winning games. It's fun. Enjoy it. But it doesn't mean that the Dodgers have lost five in a row. Should we run around like our heads on fire, like they stink and that the Padres Giants are going to catch them? No, they've lost five in a row. It's not the end of the world. And you've got to have that view on both sides.

[Stugatz]

You don't. It doesn't have to be the end of the world. Like what? The end of the world. The end of the world.

[David Sampson]

You're right. It's not climate change.

[Stugatz]

Sorry, I'm just, I'm. I can. What kind of analysis is going to hold up in the face of that? Like, yes, over any five games, you can say something, anything about a baseball team. I don't want to talk about the Marlins anymore. I've kept them. I'm actually interested in what it is that they're doing. But I want to go back to you saying that Bobby Valentine was a guest on Nothing Personal here. I thought. Zazlow, are you familiar with any of this? The backstory on Sampson and Bobby Valentine is that Bobby Valentine had been hired to manage the Marlins and Sampson did an assortment of things with bind fest behind the scenes to make it very hard for that. Yeah, to actually take that job. Bobby Valentine would have liked that job. And so there was a lot of animosity between Valentine and David Sampson, but Sampson claimed that it was fine, that everything was good when they did a post season run of baseball games last year on CBS together, they worked together and they claim that the. Well, let's just hear the sound from the watch along that we did with Tim Kirk. And you tell me, Zaslo, whether you think this, whether Bobby Valentine thinks that the, the hatchet is buried with David Sampson. I was happy to hear that you and David Sampson had buried the hatchet last postseason.

[David Sampson]

Well, I guess. Is that a fact?

[Stugatz]

I don't.

[David Sampson]

I mean, that doesn't sound like someone who thinks the hatch has been buried, David. Well, the objection there, Dan, is that the way you cut that audio is you didn't play what came next. So obviously that snippet would indicate that there is Some serious hatchet still in existence. But if you listen to today's show or you watch what we did in the World Series last year, you would know that it was mostly buried with occasional doses of inflammation where truth came to the surface. And I was just honest.

[Stugatz]

We'll play the rest of it. Hold on.

[David Sampson]

From getting hired? Yeah. Is that a fact?

[Stugatz]

I don't know. Okay. But he's claiming that we're creatively editing these things. We are not creatively editing these things. I don't. I think that Bobby Valentine is one of these strange creatures that actually doesn't mind conflict. Kind of enjoys it. Doesn't care how awkward it looks.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, I didn't. It was never awkward. The awkward part was having him not get hired after he was hired. And that was a moment I will never forget in my career, because we hadn't announced publicly that we were even firing the current manager, and we had already hired the new one in Bobby Valentine, and we had to get him fired because I knew it would not work out. And what's the easiest way to get someone fired is you tell the owner, our owner at the time, and you say, by the way, the manager will not take lineup suggestions. And pretty much that's the end of that.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[David Sampson]

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[Stugatz]

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[David Sampson]

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[Stugatz]

Don, leave me everything. You owe me everything.

[David Sampson]

You have added 10 years to my career.

[Stugatz]

Yes, I have.

[David Sampson]

This man has. You haven't.

[Stugatz]

That Man. Man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who the hell are you, stots?

[Stugatz]

I am.

[David Sampson]

Who the. You are. You're a rude young man.

[Stugatz]

You're a fool.

[David Sampson]

You're.

[Stugatz]

You're a fool.

[David Sampson]

I already called you a fool.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can't call me again.

[Stugatz]

It's a fool. Idiot.

[Dan LeBatard]

Twice. You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped you.

[David Sampson]

This is the D. Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

David, is it a good Italian restaurant if they have an autographed photo of Bobby Valentine on the wall?

[David Sampson]

I would be more apt to go to a Japanese restaurant with an autograph of Bobby Valentine.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is it a good Italian restaurant if they have a photo that's autographed of Dennis Farina on the wall?

[David Sampson]

100%. Go make me a sandwich. What is the best Midnight Run reference? Sorry.

[Stugatz]

What is the best. Yes, I.

[Dan LeBatard]

If you. If you've got an autographed photo of Dennis Farina on your wall, you're at least four and a half stars.

[Stugatz]

So he was a Chicago cop. Correct. And give me a funnier name that you could possibly come up with for a photograph on a wall, because now it's got to conjure an image of a mustache. You guys go ahead and find Dennis Farina for me because he. You guys will all recognize. You will recognize this face. It will make the late Dennis Farina, John Ashton.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, that's a good mustache. That's a good mustache.

[Stugatz]

In a. In an Italian restaurant. If they have Dennis Farina, former Chicago cop who just had a great career as an actor, where you would simply look at him and he would make you happy because, well, you might not have liked reindeer games, but he was great in it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you have anything to declare? Yeah, don't. Don't go to England. I've got three more real or possibly fake podcasts. Hit the music.

[Stugatz]

All right. Still with this game. Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is this a real baseball podcast? The walkout with Lance McCullers and Carlos Correa. Is that a real baseball podcast?

[David Sampson]

God, that's such a Great one because McCullers, he's the last remaining with Altuve from 2017 that Team Correa left when they brought in Pena. I'm going to go not real, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

So this one's a trick question. It is a real podcast, but it's about MMA for some reason. Hosted by Lance McCullers and Carlos Correa. The walkout they're referring to is the walkout to the Octagon. Next one up, who's on first with Ryan Klesko?

[David Sampson]

I don't believe I've ever seen Ryan Klesko host a podcast. I'm going to go fake as well.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a good name, though.

[Stugatz]

It is a good. But this is why. This is how you know they're fake, though, when you come up with a great name for the 90s, that the conjures a batting stance. We know it's not a real podcast because why would Ryan Plesko be doing a podcast?

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, why would Lance McCullers be doing an MMA podcast? And finally, the Baseball Barista with Hunter Pence. Yes, this was a real podcast. It stopped putting out episodes in 2021, but the baseball Barista with Hunter Pence was a real podcast.

[David Sampson]

And Mike, I don't know if the fix was in on this, but I got a call yesterday whether or not I'd be interested in having Hunter Pence on as a guest. And so the reason I went yes, so quickly is I assumed he was promoting something or wanting to be a part of something, so I put it together. I'd never heard of that podcast, but that's how I got to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, it feels like it would be pretty on brand that it's not actually stopped or canceled. He just hasn't gotten around to making another episode and he'd wait four and a half years to do another one.

[Stugatz]

I like it. I wanted to ask Sampson about a story from a week ago before we get ready for Would you attend their funeral? But Severino, I don't know if you guys saw. It was just such a curious thing that the A's gave big money out of nowhere to Severino. Now he's one of these guys with an ERA under over five and he doesn't like playing in the ballpark. And I thought. David, you mentioned Correa. Correa was complaining about the minor league facilities at the ballpark. I think Zach Wheeler was complaining about the mound at the ballpark. We've got a couple of major league teams playing in beneath major League circumstances right now, correct?

[David Sampson]

Yeah, it's an issue. You've got Tampa right now playing at the Yankee spring training facility. And you've got the Athletics playing in a Triple A facility in Sacramento. But where you're incorrect is the reason Severino got signed to that deal. It was a three year deal, let's say call it for $67 million is part of the collective bargain agreement required the A's to raise their payroll. So they had to increase and they signed a pitcher, gave him the biggest contract Oakland organization had ever given, but it was to achieve a certain payroll number. So talk about great timing and talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I want Severino to be traded to an outpost. I want him to think that Sacramento was the place of his dreams. I was thinking maybe a team in the California penal league. Because he took this $20 million and it's not like he's performing. The guy stinks. And then sullies the stadium like, oh, I'm too good to be in Sacramento. You're right. How about Columbus?

[Stugatz]

That feels like a guess what? Greg Cody, you just hit him with the equivalent of a guess what? Guess what? You're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was on my list.

[Stugatz]

You're right. And then send him to the minor leagues.

[Dan LeBatard]

Guess what? With Glen Allen Hill was on my list.

[David Sampson]

I own that though. I own it.

[Stugatz]

Did you see what it is that Sampson just did? He punctuated the take by pointing straight at the camera and sending Severino to the minor leagues.

[David Sampson]

I know. That was forceful. That's why he's the great broadcaster. He is David Sampson.

[Stugatz]

Nothing personal. Every day, two hours as part of the LeBatard and Friends Network and as part of the DraftKings Network. Before we review the movie here, let's play a game of. Would you attend their funeral? Can I get the happy music?

[Dan LeBatard]

David, would you attend Perry Hill's funeral?

[David Sampson]

Absolutely not.

[Stugatz]

What? Whoa, Bone.

[David Sampson]

No. Harry Hill is not someone who I will. I will ever see again.

[Stugatz]

Wait, one of the great infield coaches of all time. What do you.

[David Sampson]

One of the great pr, head coach, infield coaches, politician.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now that's hate.

[David Sampson]

What? No, it's not hate. It's nothing personal. It's actually. Here's the thing with Nigel Morgan. Here's the thing. DraftKings Network, by the way, for the folks at home watching on the Dan LeBatard YouTube, our show starts at 8am, not 9am we added an extra hour. The thing with Perry Hill is that he did a lot of work behind the scenes that made my job harder. And I want people who work to make my job easier. So in my entire career, Wall street, wherever I've been, no one's made my job harder to do than Perry Hill. And to me, that eliminates any chance that I will go to your funeral. Can you. Can you give an example of that? How would an infield go right to the owner to demand certain player position moves? When you go right to the owner over the GM's head, over the manager's head, knowing that you've got the owner's ear from your relationship back in the Texas, Oklahoma City days, where you can demand whatever salary you want, but actually not want to do the extra work to deserve it. Oh, God, wait. You want me to keep going? I'm just getting started.

[Stugatz]

Yes, please do. Yeah. Perry Hill is known to be one of the.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm Just Getting Started is a great name for a podcast.

[Stugatz]

Perry Hill is known in baseball circles as one of the nicest and friendliest people you will ever meet.

[David Sampson]

What circles are you talking about?

[Dan LeBatard]

Media.

[David Sampson]

He was great with the media. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's. That's good. We should draw a correlation between the people who have the best relationship with members of the media, as though that is an indicator. Forget leading. It's not even lagging in terms of what it means inside a clubhouse or what it means now. Did he make players better? Did I love when he stuck a thing right in the infield to tell people where to play? I'm in. But guess what? When we replaced him, when he retired because he wanted so much money, that finally we got to Jeffrey and said, this is absurd. The only way we'll give that much money is if his name is Barry Bonds, and then we'll lie about it and then Perry comes back because he had whatever. No, there are plenty of great infield coaches out there.

[Stugatz]

There was a middle. There was a. Guess what in the middle of that that Sampson threw in trying to. Trying to hone in on. On Cody's game over here.

[David Sampson]

Sampson is not only not going to Perry Hill's funeral, he's going to picket it. You're going to go.

[Stugatz]

This is shocking sound this.

[David Sampson]

I will not allocate time to pick at someone's funeral. Are you kidding me, Greg? I'm on the clock right now, but really good life real quick.

[Dan LeBatard]

Real or fake podcast? I'm just getting warmed up with Darren Oliver.

[David Sampson]

Why Darren Oliver?

[Stugatz]

Because he's just warmed up. That's.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a long reliever. That's just getting warmed up.

[Stugatz]

That's telling stories. But that's. That's his tell, David. Don't you see?

[Dan LeBatard]

And long relief.

[Stugatz]

That's what he does tell is just funny names from the 90s is all he's doing. It's fake.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm just getting warm with Darren.

[David Sampson]

I'm gonna say fake.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. It is fake. Would you attend Ozzie Guillen's funeral.

[David Sampson]

In Chicago or in Venezuela?

[Dan LeBatard]

Feeler's choice.

[David Sampson]

Well, no. To Venezuela. I would zoom into that one. And I would do it. I would go to Chicago for sure because I would like to see Osny and the children and his wife. And I would like to celebrate what he did with us as a Marlins third base coach. And I would like to honor him for winning the World Series in 05 in Chicago. So yes, I would go to Ozzy's funerals long it was in Chicago. And I could fly into o' Hare and get to downtown. Not during traffic. That would be critical piece of travel.

[Stugatz]

I've got to apologize to the audience. I've been disoriented. Like, I'm not totally here. Because those are the most shocking words ever spoken publicly about Perry Hill. Like, I just. I don't PR master. I just don't know what to do. Like that. What right now? He just unmasked Perry Hill in a way no one's ever seen before.

[David Sampson]

Look, Dan, all you had to do was ask. And I'm not begrudging the fact that we won a World Series together. I'm not begrudging the fact that he has a family or that he wants to work for a living. I'm not begrudging that you asked me would I go to his funeral and I said no. Trying to explain to you why I wouldn't, which is quite simple. Why would I go to the funeral of someone who made my life miserable day in and day out by stepping over the head of his manager, by stepping over the head of his general manager, his president of baseball operations, to have a direct line to the owner to effectuate changes that would benefit him. Why would I go to that funeral? Is he aware that you feel this way? Of course. I've told him I don't. I don't let things fester, Dan. People around Mellor may not realize that, but you should. I don't let it fester. It was a great day when we were finally able to convince Jeffrey to allow for the departure of Perry Hill.

[Stugatz]

I am just floored. And I'm sorry, America, that we have unleashed this. He just wiped David Sampson just that. So that right there is how you punctuate a take wiping the froth off your face with a kerchief. That is a new lane for you, Samson. Sounds like a pricey where you totally rip someone. You disgrace someone who's had a pristine reputation in public for 30 years, and then you just wipe the spittle off your mouth because it's come so easy to you.

[David Sampson]

It wasn't spittle on my mouth. It was schmitz on my brow. Nice kerchief.

[Stugatz]

Let's review the movie of the week, please. What is it that you're reviewing this week?

[David Sampson]

I cannot get enough of the train wrecked episodes. I'm addicted to them. And I haven't gotten to American Apparel, but I will. But I watched the Mayor of Mayhem, and I kept thinking I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit with Chris Farley. That's the only thing that was in my head the whole time. The mayor in Toronto was this guy named Rob Ford. I had no idea that the guy croaked. I only knew him as the crazy mayor who was trying to be like Ed Koch, Part seven, where, hey, how am I doing? I'm Ed Koch. And he would go around unlikely to be voted as mayor, became mayor, and it became a nightmare because he was on video doing crack, literally doing crack in a crack pipe. I don't know that it was a crack den, but it was a crack pipe. And he denied it. He was going to go down full denial. He said, show me the video. They showed the video. He keeps denying it, and it was him. And then he got a little PR help and he had to admit that it was him. And what do you do when you're found to be a sex addict or a crack addict? What's the first thing you do? You guys know you go to rehab. That's what he did. He went to rehab and then came back and then died of cancer.

[Stugatz]

The Train Wreck series has some stuff that's just very easy to watch. Poop crews. This is empty calories, what he's mentioning here. This is 50 minutes of yes. What does it look like when I Polish politician before Trump goes the shameless route of trying to hide in public that he's a crack. That he's a crack fiend, that he's publicly. Like he's running around all of Toronto basically doing drugs in places and there's video everywhere because he hasn't accounted for the Internet age.

[David Sampson]

He denied the video, which is. I think it's very silly to deny the existence of a video Unless you know for sure you've never smoked crack. Once you've smoked it, you've got to assume that someone was witnessing, that maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

You didn't know for sure that he smoked crack.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the pole. Smoking crack. Put it on the poll, please. Once. Once you've smoked crack, do you have to concede that it's probably on video somewhere?

[David Sampson]

Maybe the video was an AI simulation?

[Stugatz]

Well, they could do that now, but that wouldn't have been something then. There wasn't a way for him to deny his way out of it. The video was pretty obvious.

[David Sampson]

Obvious, but you can deny if you know you've never smoked crack. You can deny a video of yourself if you know you've never smoked it. Because then it could be AI. It could be they put your face on someone's body.

[Stugatz]

That was what was great about his denial. Wasn't. Hey, Mayor, you were smoking crack on video. His. His denial was. There's no video. This is. This is what David Sampson is objecting to from a Barry Jackson article. In 2018, Perry Hill would call up the official scorer during games to try to get errors taken away from his infielders, to add earned runs to his own pitchers so he could look better as an infield coach. That was the accusation that Sampson made at Perry Hills, at Perry Hill's resume.

[David Sampson]

It's not an accusation. That's. That's a fact. Well, you should go to funeral, find out Pablo Torre to go find an official scorer at pro player. That's a fact. I mean, listen, it is what it is. Isn't that like pitching coaches do that for pitchers, infielders? Like, isn't everybody kind of doing that? You don't call the official score during the game.

[Stugatz]

What a waste of Pablo Torre's time. What were you saying, Cody?

[David Sampson]

David, you should go to Perry Hill's funeral, give the eulogy and just let.

[Stugatz]

All this out in the eulogy. Yes, because you are taking out a man who has had a pristine reputation.

[David Sampson]

I'm not taking him out. Dan, stop with that. The party. That's fine. I'm not saying anything that has not been said or felt.

[Stugatz]

I'm going to make a documentary about what it is you've done here today. You have taken out Perry Hill and you did so. Making this sound, by the way, which isn't something we've ever heard before in the history of the show.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Stugatz]

Like, what is that? What is that? We asked you about Perry Hill and this is you, professional broadcaster David Sampson.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yeah, that sounds like AI.

[Stugatz]

No, that was you. You can hear the game show music underneath. No, that was you earlier in the show. You were reacting to something. I. I think you. I thought you were reacting to Mike Ryan asking you if you would go to Perry Hill's funeral. And it was so obvious to you that you wouldn't. That before you said no, I think you did this.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Parting shot with Marge Shot. Real or fake?

[David Sampson]

There weren't podcasts when she was alive.

[Stugatz]

Mike. Mike, that's terrible.

[David Sampson]

That's good, then. That's good.

[Stugatz]

No, that's not good. Parting shot with Martin Shot has been dead for 20 years. She was dead before podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, she would have a lot to say right now.

[David Sampson]

It would have been called I'm on a Heater.

[Stugatz]

David, thank you for playing all of our games with us. Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast. Stan Van in and Stan Van out is the exclusive domain copywritten by David Sampson. So don't anybody try to take it. It's all his. Thank you, David. Good talking to you.

[David Sampson]

Take care. Oh, yeah.

[Stugatz]

Can you guys find where it is? He said that.

[David Sampson]

I love him denying it. As if we could create that.

[Stugatz]

This is AI. As if we're that creative.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is not smoke crack.

[Stugatz]

That is the way that a cartoon rooster dies if you taser it.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hey, everybody, it's Mike down here in South Florida. As the audience well knows, we've been celebrating a proper chamber championship, and we've been enjoying every minute of it. And by my side throughout that entire championship celebration has been Miller like. Yeah, I wanted to make my championship time a Miller time, because much like most of the fun memories I've had as an adult, Miller Lite has been right there by my side, supplementing every experience. And now that I'm about to travel during the summer, you can rest assured I'm going to be having plenty of Miller Light along the way, because that's what summer is all about. And since 1975, Miller Lite has been right there. And all those memories for you listening right now, it's the 50th anniversary of Miller Lite. That's 50 years of great taste, great friends, great moments. Miller Lite, great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories at 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.