The Big Suey: Nude In The Name Of Leadership (feat. Nick Wright)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: Nude In The Name Of Leadership (feat. Nick Wright)
Date: January 14, 2026

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OVERVIEW

In this episode, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew are joined by Nick Wright (FS1’s "First Things First") for a rapid-fire, sports-heavy discussion live from Miami. The episode covers NFL playoff narratives, individual legacies, Miami sports, college football, and the value of leadership—both in and out of clothes. There is banter about sports media reputations, passionate debates over Miami’s football culture, and classic show nonsense, blending humor with substantial sports analysis.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Aaron Rodgers’ Legacy: "A compliment to say you underachieved"

• [01:36] Nick Wright gives a succinct yet biting take on Aaron Rodgers’s career, noting how reaching the 9th or 10th spot all-time among QBs as "a compliment to say you underachieved."
  • Quote: “It’s odd to be one of the 10 greatest players in the history of your sport at your position and still have underachieved, but I think that’s what he did.” – Nick Wright [01:54]

2. Mike Tomlin’s Playoff Struggles

• [02:53] Nick uses a creative analogy relating Tomlin’s results to Le Batard’s show—a high tide raising boats, exposing the challenge in the postseason.
• [05:03] Argues the Steelers’ pursuit of .500 seasons over championship ceilings was their undoing.
  • Quote: “It felt like near the end they were prioritizing high floor rather than high ceiling and I think that got in his way.” – Nick Wright [05:03]

3. Lamar Jackson: On the Downside of Peak Years?

• [06:19] Nick lays out his reservations on Lamar’s future as a premier quarterback, linking his passing success to defensive fear of his run.
  • Quote: “Do I think Lamar Jackson is likely to ever reach the peaks he has already reached? No.” – Nick Wright [06:19]
• Suggests Baltimore’s best chance was the 2024 AFC title game, now lost to history.

4. Nick Wright on Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift & Celebrity Circles

• [08:01] Nick stays humble, clarifying his relationship with Kelce while debunking any proximity to a Taylor Swift wedding invite.

5. OKC, The Spurs, and the 'Tall Skinny Rivalry'

• [08:59] Nick unpacks the unique matchups between Oklahoma City and San Antonio, highlighting young team dynamics and the “Wimby vs. Chet” narrative.
• Shares key NBA wisdom: Teams rarely repeat as champions, referencing the Lakers as the anomaly.

6. NFL Playoff Chaos: Packers’ Loss and Bears’ Magic

• [10:36] Discussions on the wildest playoff losses, Nick marvels at Green Bay’s collapse versus Chicago, comparing it to legendary NFL meltdowns.
  • Quote: “I have never seen a game lost like that... the Bears, trailing by double digits with five minutes left... For everyone else in the sport, it’s a 2% chance of victory. For the Bears, it’s a 50/50 shot.” – Nick Wright [11:25]

7. College Football – Miami’s National Title Shot

• [17:09] Nick reveals conflicting loyalties, ultimately picking Miami against Indiana. Expresses nostalgia for Hurricanes glory and the joy of the U thriving again.
  • Quote: “I like when the U is rolling. I like when Michael Irvin accidentally reveals he has washboard 8-pack abs. I like Ibis. I’ve never done cocaine but I imagine I’d like that. So I’m going for the Canes.” – Nick Wright [17:29]

8. NFL 'Super Teams' There Are None… and a Rams/Bills Super Bowl?

• [19:00] Nick discusses the parity in this NFL season, with no dominating ‘super team’ like the 2007 Patriots or modern Chiefs.
• Picks Rams vs. Bills, praising Josh Allen as the tournament’s best player.

9. “Pressure is a Privilege”: The Josh Allen Discourse

• [20:38] Nick pushes back on “pressure-less” analysis: The only way to become a legend is to win under high stakes.
  • Quote: “That’s the way you become a legend…doing legendary moments when the stakes are high. So, I say all that to say this: you’re welcome, Josh Allen, for the pressure.” – Nick Wright [22:48]
• Argues Allen’s clutch moments must be celebrated, not downplayed.

10. The LeBron Debate: All-Star at 50?

• [25:43] Spirited banter about whether LeBron James can be an all-star at 50, with Nick defending audacious predictions and poking at show arguments.

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MEMORABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES

• Nick Wright’s Take on Leadership (and Humor):

  • “I will do it in the name of leadership to show Greg Cody how it is to help the show. Because the show should come first, not Greg Cody. He doesn’t understand that. He thinks Greg Cody should always come first.” – Dan Le Batard [34:09]

• Miami Football Fandom, Reputations & Overheated Debate:

  • “Our minds, bodies and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You’re walking into an asylum... Spot the goddamn ball.” – Mike Ryan quoting his own Threads post to fire up Canes Nation [35:06]
  • Dan and Mike Ryan square off about Mario Cristobal’s coaching reputation:
    • Mike: “What is this reputation? Do we follow the sport?... It’s ignorant to say that.” [44:25]
    • Dan: “...it’s not me doing it, Mike—it’s me hearing it everywhere. Like I said, reputationally, purposefully... thinking it might soften you some. How’d that go for me?” [44:56]

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ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTS WITH TIMESTAMPS

• [05:58] Nick predicts Mike Tomlin will join Fox:
  “I think he is a great, great head coach and I also think he’s likely going to be a colleague of mine at Fox. So welcome to the team.”
• [11:25] Analysis of improbable NFL comebacks and unique team stats for Chicago Bears.
• [22:48] Nick lavishes high expectations on Josh Allen; discusses the media’s role in shaping narratives.
• [25:57] Quick hit on LeBron’s post-streak resurgence:
  “Since [letting that streak go], he’s been a top 10 player in the league. See you.” – Nick Wright

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SHOW TRADITIONS, CHAOS, AND RUNNING JOKES

• Leadership “Nude”: Dan pledges to pose nude on carpet in the studio to demonstrate “putting the show first,” after Greg Cody’s failed recreation of an old Miami ad [34:08].
• Miami Football Obsession: Heartfelt, at times hilariously overwrought, debates about Mario Cristobal’s coaching, Miami’s playoff reputation, and the Hazing/leadership culture of the show itself.
• Friendly Bickering: Banter between Nick Wright and the regular crew typifies the show’s blend of affection, irritation, and performative outrage.
• Mike Ryan’s Fandom: Passionate monologues from Mike Ryan about Miami’s "us-against-the-world" mindset, crystallized in his Threads hype post.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

This episode is a quintessential Dan Le Batard Show installment: sharp, funny, unpredictable, and full of inside jokes. Nick Wright fits right into the ecosystem, firing off takes with both bravado and self-awareness. The sports debate is intense and genuine—especially regarding legacy and pressure—while Miami bias, pettiness, and performative “leadership” antics provide a warm backdrop of humor and humanity.

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For listeners new and old, this episode delivers both sports analysis and the zany sense of community that defines the show.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Greg Cody]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan Le Batard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard]

And now here's the marching man to nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. Grateful for Nick Wright's time. He's very busy. He's got a very popular television show. And what is he smiling about?

[Nick Wright]

Because what do you're just always. The intros are always so kind and then I leave the interview, you know, usually mad at you. And so it's just a nice emotional roller coaster. But thank you for having me on, Dan. Happy New Year. I just got some chocolates from you guys and a hamper. I literally just got it this morning. It was a New Year's presence January 14, but I appreciate it all the same. Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's speed him up. I want to get as much sports stuff from him because it's going crazy out there and he's the best going right now at Sports Opinion. Let's begin with the legacy of Aaron Rodgers. He has. Tom Brady has won a playoff game more recently than Aaron Rodgers.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah, listen, I think that when you are one of the foremost talented players in the history of your position and you end up, you know, around, I don't know, the 9th or 10th best player in the history of your position, it is a compliment to say you underachieved. And I think you saw on the back on enduring his final, what is likely his final game in the NFL, some of the stuff that made him not that guy in the biggest spots where he was making it clear to the entire world mistakes were made, but they were not my mistakes. Wearing his disgust on his face and and also DK Metcalf drops a pass so he ices him out of the game plan for a couple of hours. It's odd to be one of the 10 greatest players in the history of your sport at your position and still have underachieved, but I think that's what he did. Is that quick enough?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. It's a good start. It's a good start. No, I don't want. I want you to give me what you got. I don't think I'm going to have very many follow ups, but we want to bang through this as fast as we can here and give as much nutrients as we possibly can. So. Mike Tomlin's career Postseason record is 8 and 11, a.421 winning percentage. It's 23 out of 25 coaches with at least 15 playoff games since 2011. He's 3 and 10 in the playoffs and he's lost to Tebow and Blake Bortles. Tomlin, give me what you got.

[Nick Wright]

I, I would analogize it to if a bunch of people like left your show and then like you had a big coaching tree and then they all failed and then it was. People were like, sad Lerd, what's he doing? When in reality it's a compliment. It's. They only got that platform because of the, the high tide raising boats. I, I think Mike Tomlin got and I don't where they. Can you buy Emmys on ebay now. I think they got to the playoffs with less than playoff caliber teams because of Tomlin's inherent excellence at getting the most, you know, juice from the squeeze. And then once the playoffs begun and you played actual good teams, they got clocked repeatedly. With that said, he's not blameless because I do think over the last half decade the priority shifted from winning Super Bowl 7 to guaranteeing you had the best chance to not be below.500 in 2019. At the tail end of Big Ben, he got hurt. Three games into the year, they're.03 and they trade a first round pick for who? Miami's Minka Fitzpatrick. That year, not only was Burrow and Herbert at the top of the draft, but Jordan.

[Mike Wilbon]

We've lost your audio, Nick.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've. Yeah, we've lost your audio.

[Mike Ryan]

Never happened to me.

[Gianna Sanchez]

I blame Jeremy.

[Nick Wright]

That couldn't be me. That has to be on your guys end.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. We like accountability.

[Gianna Sanchez]

You're back.

[Dan Le Batard]

We just lost the last, the very last couple of sentences of what you said.

[Nick Wright]

All right, very quickly. Sorry. Don't count this against my time. 2019, they trade away their first round pick to add Minka Fitzpatrick even though Big Ben's out for the year because they want to find a way to get to eight wins. They do. They don't have a first round pick when Burrow Herbert at the top of the draft. Jordan Love at the tail end of round one, a team that had a quarterback but looked ahead. Jalen hurts the beginning of round two, a team that had just signed Carson Wentz and then even this past year when you sign a 41 year old quarterback, you know that's not a long term plan. Fine, so be it. But in the first round and I'm not a huge Jackson Dart or Tyler Schuck guy but they don't draft a quarterback there. Instead they draft a D lineman. It felt like near the end they were prioritizing high floor rather than high ceiling and I think that got in his way. But I think he is a great, great head coach and I also think he's likely going to be a colleague of mine at Fox. So welcome to the team.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike, you use the phrase toward the end and I've gathered from your commentary, although I haven't heard you say it plainly, that you think Lamar Jack is toward the end. That whatever it is that is going on with Lamar Jackson, we've seen his best play and it's no longer prime Lamar Jackson that we're ever going to see again. Do I have you? Am I misrepresenting you?

[Nick Wright]

You're not misrepresenting me. I don't. Toward the end is maybe further than I would go. But do I think Lamar Jackson is likely to ever reach the peaks he has already reached? No. Do I think that a Lamar Jackson I know he has these gaudy passing numbers and the numbers are the numbers. But do I, do I believe having watched the NFL that some of Lamar Jackson's efficiency and excellence passing the ball is a byproduct of teams being so afraid correctly what he can, what he can do running the ball and therefore if moving forward he's more like he was this year than in previous years where where he's simply not a real threat as a runner. He's going to be see he's going to see more complex, more difficult passing game looks and that could hurt his productivity. You also add to the fact that he has missed at least a quarter of the season three of the last five years. You also add to the fact that he was that he wants a understandable a top of market brand new fully guaranteed 60 plus million dollar a year deal. I think their bet their best chance to win a Super bowl was January of 2024 hosting the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship game. And they might have done it, but Justin Tucker demanded to get warmed up in Kelsey and Mahomes practice area and it's all been downhill from there.

[Greg Cody]

Hey Nick, this is a bit off subject, but I'm wondering how hard you're working behind the scenes to finagle an invitation to Travis and Taylor's wedding.

[Nick Wright]

Not working behind the scenes on that at all. Our mu. I would imagine our mutual friend Adam Lefkoe will be invited. I've always been tried to be very clear about this. I am friendly with Travis. I love Travis as a football player and I also think he's the greatest tight end ever. But Travis and I do not have the extent of our personal relationship is in the past we had had an annual meeting in mid February in Kansas City at a parade that was always held and then we'd go get drunk afterwards. That's the extent of it. So I don't think I'm in the wedding party circle now. If Patrick were getting married, I think maybe I'd get invitation. But Patrick has been married for a long time as a beautiful family, wonderful wife and children.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll please. Best tight end ever. Kelsey or Gronk at Lebatard Show Explain to me what's going on with OKC and the Spurs.

[Nick Wright]

Well, I listen, I think that it would have been a five alarm fire for OKC had they lost last night. They didn't and Shea stabilized and I think that, that they that is a unique matchup for OKC because OKC has a lot of inherent advantages over most of the excellent teams in the league. But one of them is because of their youth and their depth. They can just send wave after wave of excellent defender at you. That's going to wear you down. And by midway through the third quarter most teams are like ah, next game's probably going to be easier because of the the Wimby chat rivalry that Wimy has created out of thin air. There can only be one super tall skinny guy that they play with an edge and they have the youth and the depth to where they are not going to wear down. I I need to see Wimby play, you know, 50 games ish in a row where I have confidence that they are a real contender. But that is a, that is the first tough matchup that OKC has. But I just remind everyone five of the last six champions midway through or early on in the year they were defending their title. Everyone thought that team's obviously repeating and not only did no none repeat, none got back to the finals, none got back to the conference finals. And the only one that's even been back to a conference finals, forget the year after at any point post championship run is of course the championship. We don't count LeBron James is in the 2020 Los Angeles Lakers.

[Dan Le Batard]

We'll get to LeBron in a second. But what do you have for Nick Wright says the packers winner the Bear.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Lose Bears lo oh, okay.

[Nick Wright]

Sorry I didn't understand great questions as you had six words, you stumbled over two of them. But I translated it the packers lost Caleb sensational and special. But that is an unfathomable loss for the packers and it's on a long list of really tough ones.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought that that was the most improbable playoff loss ever given the time and situation. Obviously the patriots being down 28 to three in a Super bowl is a bigger thing, but just be to to have golden score his first touchdown of the season that way to go up 11 to have the Bears in fourth and nine late in that game I really did think it was almost impossible to lose that game.

[Nick Wright]

So I have never seen a game lost like that. So to go back a few years when everyone's golden boy, look at the arm talent Justin Herbert had his first of what ended up being a trilogy of truly awful playoff games. And by the way, this is one where the first was the worst, meaning it was the least much of a meltdown for Herbert. All he did was blow a 27 nothing lead and make zero plays. He's who knew the sequel. He'd throw more picks in a game than he did in his whole season and in the trilogy one he would simply just be like I'm not throwing the ball and score three points. But I'm remiss in part of that comeback. The Jags had four second half possessions, scored four touchdowns. The Jags had to be perfect every possession. The bears were down 21 3, threw a pick, had a possession where they gained 2 yards and allowed a touchdown and still came back and the packers never turned it over. The packers had the ball eight times after going up 21 3, never turned it over and lost. I it is. I've never seen a comeback like that and I don't think this is year over year sustainable. But as far as for the rest of this postseason, there is something to the fact that trailing by double digits with five minutes left this season, every team but The Bears has three wins and 159 losses and the Bears, trailing by double digits with five minutes or left, have three wins and three losses. For everyone else in the sport, it's a 2% chance of victory. For the Bears, it's a 5050 shot. They're the only team that can trail by 10 entering the fourth quarter this weekend and feel okay about it.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Wilbon]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Mike Wilbon]

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[Nick Wright]

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[Nick Wright]

You guys. Overall, miss, there was part of. I was very conflicted and I actually said this on the TV show. I have personal relationships to Miami, most notably this show, but really Mike Ryan, specifically, because I know he lives and dies with it. Levitard, I think used to care about the canes. And then he was like, I'm a big J journalist. I can't care about anything. And then he's like, wait, all the money is in doing Miami Heat rants. So maybe I should lean back into the fact that my football Team's good. Did I get the timeline right? I'm not sure. Regardless, so I was rude and a couple of the producers on our TV show are Miami grads including the world's greatest social media producer, Gianna Sanchez who really lives and dies with it. I also wanted Lane Kiffin it really to stick to him. I really liked the idea of Ole Miss. He leaves Ole Miss because you can't win a championship there and then they win the championship. So in that game I was conflicted but I like your guys chances. In this game I'm not conflicted at all. I like Kurt Signetti and his amazing amazing coaching job and his squad of super senior 27 year olds. However, I like when the U is rolling. I like when Michael Irvin accidentally reveals he has Washburn board 8 pack abs. I like Ibis. I've never done cocaine but I imagine I'd like that. So I I'm going for the canes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, what do you have for Nick Wright?

[Greg Cody]

Hey Nick. America is under threat of a Denver, Seattle Super Bowl. I wonder if you see a super team this year. Is there anybody in the NFL that's an extraordinary all round team?

[Nick Wright]

No, listen, the super team decided they'd, you know, take the season off sadly and not make their fourth straight Super Bowl. I think Seattle's the best team but when, when literally every single person it involved in watching or covering the NFL, their biggest concern about your team is is your quarterback going to melt in a big spot. It feels like that team's never going to be the consensus favorite. Denver. I, I give Denver Credit. They won 14 games. I don't fully believe in them. I think Buffalo has the superhero. The Rams are the best team but have had some odd, you know, end of games losses. And that Panther game they weren't actually all that impressive. But no, much like 2007 to I, I've told this before but I'll do it very quickly. 2007 Tom Brady takes the field trying to become the greatest single season team ever. The 07 Patriots go for his fourth Super Bowl. They don't win that game. He tears his ACL in 2008, 2024, 25 the exact same scenario for Patrick Mahomes. The 2008 postseason was a weird one. We got the nine win Arizona Cardinals playing a Steelers team that nobody thought was really exceptional. I wonder if 2025 is going to be similar in its weirdness. I with that said, my super bowl pick is not a weird one. It's Rams, Bills, it's the two best Quarterbacks in the tournament.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. You have Josh Allen going on the road and doing that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a lot of faith in the.

[Nick Wright]

Best player in the tournament. Agree something about that. You didn't even ask me. I want to say something.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nor do you care whether I say yes or no. You can say something about that. You're going to say it. Yeah, go ahead.

[Nick Wright]

This is. And I. This is. This is not a shot as at others as much as it is a compliment to myself. These folks that wanted to preemptively lower the stakes for Josh Allen in the wild card game as a way to either ingratiate themselves to the ball knowers or to be or to make it clear that no the, you know, the only a Neanderthal would think that an all time great quarterback has pressure on him when he's in the wild card round in Jacksonville. They actually were doing Josh Allen a disservice. And those of us that said he has to find a way to win in this spot, even though the Jags are really good, were doing him a service. You know why? Because the stakes were high. That 40 yard seed to Brandon Cooks trailing in the fourth quarter with two minutes left become an iconic moment in his career. If it doesn't matter if you win or lose, if it's like, well, we all know he's great, so who cares then that play is meaningless. The fact that three postseasons in a row Josh Allen had the ball in his hands down either three or four points in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter and two years ago didn't come through, team got zero points. Last year didn't come through, team got 17 yards and this year did come through, team got a touchdown and it was such a fait accompli that the analysis was they should have stopped trying to score briefly to give Jacksonville less time. That's the way you become a legend is doing legendary moments when the stakes are high. So I say all that say this, you're welcome Josh Allen for the pressure. It is an. It is a privilege and this is how you become an all time great. Not because someone's like their run defense. I gotta listen to my guy Dominique and others be like, have you seen the Bills run defense guys? They've got the rushing champ, the best offensive line in football and a top five pass defense. And oh yeah, by the way, Josh Allen, they should be awesome.

[Mike Wilbon]

I completely agree. I love watching him in these moments too because you know exactly what's coming. They're calling players. You got to keep it in his hands. And I think, you know, I know you're a Chiefs guy and. And maybe some of the knock will be, well, he had to wait till guys like Lamar and Burrow and Mahomes were out of the playoffs to do it. But the point was brought up on on CBS that he actually is the reason a lot of those guys aren't in the postseason right now, because he beat them in the regular season in huge games in retrospect.

[Nick Wright]

Well, so listen, I also think this whole the pressures on Josh because that trio is out is bullshit. The pressure's on Josh because Mahomes is out. Joe Burrow, everyone acting like, oh, man, gotta take advantage of Joe Burrow not being in the playoffs. He's never in the playoffs. He's been in the playoffs twice ever. Like Joe. We should be it. The story should be, wow, Joe Burrow's in the playoffs. Not wow, Joe Burrow's not good point.

[Greg Cody]

And.

[Nick Wright]

And Lamar is the one prior to the win against Jacksonville. Lamar's the one at current starting quarterback in the league Josh had beaten in the playoffs and he was 2. 0 against him. Josh was not worried about the Ravens showing up to the playoffs and the Bengals showing up to the playoffs is a surprise to everyone. It is an opportunity because why are we showing robots kicking people? Why would there an opportunity?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's in the nuts. Because why wouldn't we do that? Why wouldn't.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, I don't even know what I'm watching. Oh, a guy. The robot has to do what the guy does, controlling the robot.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

How did he get it right away? I was so confused.

[Gianna Sanchez]

And then the robot mimics his reaction to getting kicked.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry, the video team interrupted you with their nonsense. You were saying.

[Nick Wright]

No, I'm just saying there. Listen it. There will be no. I. I also thought that CBS broadcast. I thought they. When they're like, now, don't you go say you're no, you're good, buddy. You're my guy. Don't you go say that there's an asterisk on this because the cheat nobody is. Nobody puts an asterisk on championships unless LeBron wins them. We all know that there is no NFL champion * since the strikes season. And I don't even know if that's an asterisk because if I asked this Emmy winning crew, when were the strike seasons in the NFL, they're gonna go over a hundred. And so when was it? When was it? Tashay, this is not an Emmy winning.

[Mike Ryan]

Crew. I'm an Emmy win.

[Nick Wright]

Okay? When was it? When was the.

[Mike Ryan]

Strike? The last three years for.

[Mike Wilbon]

Me.

[Nick Wright]

Okay. Well.

[Dan Le Batard]

Done. He's the host of FS1's First Things First. He's got to get out of here. And what's right with Nick Wright, the podcast. Thank you, sir. Appreciate the.

[Nick Wright]

Arrogance. Hold on, hold.

[Dan Le Batard]

On. As.

[Nick Wright]

Always. 90 seconds. I know I have a heart out, but you said we were going to get to something. We didn't get to throw Mike Ryan on the mic. No pun intended. Hey, Mike Ryan. LeBron James all star at 50. Have you seen him since he let that streak.

[Mike Wilbon]

Go? He's been really.

[Nick Wright]

Good. Jazz was on to something. He's been streak was holding him down. Since then he's been a top 10 player in the league. See you.

[Mike Wilbon]

Guys. What's going on.

[Dan Le Batard]

There? He's got the heart out. He tells me he's got the heart out. We try and get him out in the heart out. Then he yells, but I got the.

[Nick Wright]

Guy. The guy at 31. 10 and 9 last night he turned 41. He's been great. You guys out here. Robin slandering his.

[Mike Wilbon]

Name.

[Dan Le Batard]

Robin. Mike thinks it's the worst take that you've ever.

[Mike Wilbon]

Had. He's not gonna be an ulcer at 50.

[Nick Wright]

Dude. Okay, well, here's the thing. It will much like the last time I was on this show or the second to last time, there is a real tough argument strategy of trying to prove hypotheticals incorrect. I think you we can check the archives to see how that goes.

[Gianna Sanchez]

For.

[Nick Wright]

Others there is there if LeBron is an all Star every game of his career, I guess we'll never know if he'd be an All.

[Greg Cody]

Star. We have to.

[Nick Wright]

Wrap. Five, four. See you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guys. All right, see you later. See you later, Nick. Now, he is a bit of a content machine. So he's allowed us. There are a number of things that I want to get to that he spoke about, but I first want to go to Greg Cody and how poorly at this point in his career he wants to do the things that we have asked him to do. Now this is an incredibly poor recreation of The Don Bailey Jr. Famous iconic billboard that I believe outside of the Coppertone ad is the second most famous billboard in.

[Greg Cody]

The. Yeah, there you.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Go. So this is what we're trying to.

[Greg Cody]

Recreate. Look at those.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Abs. And this is what we have. Let's take my dad.

[TurboTax Announcer]

Now. He's not even on a carpet.

[Mike Wilbon]

Now. I don't know what you're genuinely had no idea what Greg was trying to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do. Greg, you're supposed to Be on a carpet. And you're supposed to be a little bit looking new. You just look like you're in repost. Like, what are you doing? You didn't. You got shoes.

[Gianna Sanchez]

On. You might be nude under that. That's what I think we're going.

[Dan Le Batard]

For. You got shoes on. You didn't recreate the waist.

[Mike Wilbon]

Down. Keep the shoes on a rug. I don't know what he's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doing. We don't know what you're.

[Greg Cody]

Doing. Greg, we're advertising a flooring company on a couch. Cody Flooring. We sell retrograde flooring, mostly linoleum and.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chattahoochee.

[Mike Wilbon]

Greg. Greg, you saved it with chattahoochee. Linoleum is a tough word. Don't you try it, then. I'll stop.

[Dan Le Batard]

You. Thank. You're supposed to be on the carpet, though. You're supposed to be selling. I'm on a carpet talking to the mic even There. He does.

[Greg Cody]

It. All right, I'm on a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Carpet. Greg, can you do.

[Mike Wilbon]

This? Back to.

[Dan Le Batard]

It. Can you do this a little better, please? I'd like to go to you at the end of the segment and have the recreation be a little better than this, if you don't.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Mind. Get.

[Greg Cody]

Nude. What if I do.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mind? Well.

[Mike Wilbon]

Gotcha. If you want Cane's talk, I'll be on Cane's insight.

[Dan Le Batard]

Then. All right. Well, speaking of which. Thank.

[Mike Wilbon]

You. So there's another talk about Josh Pate and Brooks Austin. I believe we'll go live at 145. Mike started.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yatusabe. That was a joke you were supposed to make 20 minutes.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Ago. Yatusabe must be in the tone of that kind of.

[Mike Wilbon]

Thing. Yatu sabe I'm saying, You know.

[Gianna Sanchez]

It. I thought it was that kind of.

[Greg Cody]

Thing. Oh.

[Mike Wilbon]

Whatever. You guys are really ruining this whole week for.

[TurboTax Announcer]

Me. Sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike. Oh, sorry. We haven't done.

[Mike Wilbon]

Enough. Um, we.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Wilbon]

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[Adrian Wojnarowski]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Everything. You owe me.

[Greg Cody]

Everything. You have added 10 years to my.

[Nick Wright]

Career. Yes, I.

[Greg Cody]

Have. This man has. You.

[Dan Le Batard]

Haven'T. That.

[Greg Cody]

Man. Who the hell are.

[Mike Wilbon]

You?

[Nick Wright]

Stugats. I.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am. Who.

[Mike Wilbon]

The.

[Greg Cody]

Bullshit. You're a rude young.

[Mike Wilbon]

Man. You're a fool. You're a.

[Greg Cody]

Fool. I already called you a.

[Mike Wilbon]

Fool. You can't call me a rude idiot again. It's a fool. You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped.

[Nick Wright]

You. This is the Dan Levatar show with the St.

[Dan Le Batard]

GS. Slow everything down for just a second. Josh Allen has the most playoff wins, eight without a Super bowl appearance in NFL.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

History. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Amazing. Yes, that is amazing. It's why I said it. I would also. Please execute for me by the end of this segment. I'd like to go to the visual of Greg doing that a little bit better than. He.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Just. He doesn't want.

[Dan Le Batard]

To. I got it. And I don't.

[Greg Cody]

Care. How about you do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

LeBatard? Not a bad idea. Actually, you know what? Not a. Not a bad idea. I'm. I'm. Let's start the next segment. You know what? I'll allow you to boss me around here.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Thank.

[Dan Le Batard]

You. And I will show.

[Gianna Sanchez]

You. You love a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Costume. I will. No, it's not a costume. I'm gonna be nude. And that you would think that that would be embarrassing to me, and it will be. But I will do it in the name of leadership to show Greg Cody how it is to help the show. Because the show should come first, not Greg Cody. He doesn't understand that. He thinks Greg Cody should always come.

[Greg Cody]

First. Damn.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. So Mike posted this on Threads. Okay. Mike Ryan is gonna do. I hope Mike Ryan is doing hours and hours of Cain's exclusive content on his platform with D Money and an assortment of others. Tell people, Mike, where it is, that if they want more stuff, there's not enough Cain stuff here. You have said here on the show this week, and it's early. You've said, bleep Billy Corbin. You've said that this show is not viewed as pro. Miami. You've said you're not emotional. This is what you posted on.

[Mike Wilbon]

Threads. I didn't think anybody would see it because it was on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Threads. That's immediate defensiveness right there from Mike, because I. Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah. This was like about four TSL's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Deep. All right, so this is the quote that Mike Ryan, who says he's not emotional. This is what he put on threads. Didn't think anyone would see it on the public platform of threads. Threads quote, you haven't been tested. Our minds, bodies and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You're walking into an asylum. The same folks picking you have been pouring dirt on our grave for two and a half months. We're still standing. We're forged in fire and been fighting for our lives longer than you've mattered. See you in a week. Spot the goddamn.

[TurboTax Announcer]

Ball. All.

[Mike Wilbon]

Right. I stand by it. Wasn't as drunk sounding as I.

[Dan Le Batard]

Feared. You're threatening.

[Mike Wilbon]

Indiana. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. You're telling them. Spot the. Spot the.

[Mike Wilbon]

Ball. Spot the ball.

[Greg Cody]

Please.

[Mike Wilbon]

Inspirational. Spot the ball, please. I think it's being discounted how Miami's had to fight for its life, has had to fight to prove that they deserve to be in this tournament. And they've been living on that edge and playing with that edge for damn near half a football season. I think it matters. And you want to play against an Alabama team that didn't really belong being there, that lost FSU, and a lame duck Oregon coaching staff that internally is probably pretty mad at the coaches that are leaving because that game plan was shit. Let's go to Miami Garden. Spot the goddamn.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ball. So in the name of game analysis, and there are a couple of other things that I want to get to here, this is a bit of an oversimplification, but not exactly okay. I actually think the hardest games Miami had, and this seems asinine given that they were a 9 1/2 point favorite against Ohio State. But because of playing style and circumstance and playing on the road, I actually think that Texas A and M and Ole Miss were more difficult games in terms of style matchups than Ohio State because Ohio State was going to try and out physical Miami, and I don't believe Miami can be out physical Now. Miami did play its best game of the season against Ohio State. It's what was required and it's what they summoned. The game they played against Ole Miss after that was a letdown game. They played really, really poorly against Ole Miss. But the only way they lose against Indiana is with turnovers. If they play the game they play against Ohio State, they will drag Indiana. If they play now, it's their best game of the season, but it's what I'm measuring them against. I'm expecting their best game. And admittedly, that's a dangerous thing to expect when Mario Cristobal is your coach. Reputationally. Reputationally expecting Mario crystal balls team to play the best game in the biggest moment that doesn't have any of the undisciplined sloppiness in.

[Mike Wilbon]

It. What are you talking about? Yeah, but you're the ones making the reputation. Reputationally. Miami always gets up for the big games, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Always. Mike.

[Mike Wilbon]

Cristobal. Mario Cristobal teams always get up for the big games. What are you talking about? What is the big game? No, no, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan.

[Mike Wilbon]

No. Reputationally. Don't talk to me about something that's made up. What are the big games that Mario. I am mad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now. What are the big name now? Name.

[Mike Wilbon]

Them. What are the big games that a Mario crystal ball team has not shown up for? I am.

[Dan Le Batard]

Waiting. Okay, now I am waiting. All right, Mike.

[Mike Wilbon]

Quit. I am.

[Dan Le Batard]

Waiting. Quit being an.

[Mike Wilbon]

Asshole. I am.

[Dan Le Batard]

Waiting.

[Mike Wilbon]

5. No, no, no, no. Quit being. Are you calling me an asshole? Because I'm calling you out on your bullsh the question Spot the goddamn.

[Nick Wright]

Ball.

[Mike Wilbon]

Name. Name a game. Name a big game that a Mario crystal ball team murdering the show with their bare hands and a dismemberment kit in cold block. Make it louder. This is bullshit. You can just lie on the microphone. He's had two months of big games and the team has shown up and you're talking to me about a reputation? Guess who's making the reputation up? Dan Lebatar. Tell me the big game that a Mario Cristobal coach team has not shown up for since he's been at Miami. I double dog dare.

[Dan Le Batard]

You. Leave. Leave. Because I'm not gonna be interrupted again. So just.

[Mike Wilbon]

Leave.

[Mike Ryan]

Childish. It is a good rhetorical.

[Mike Wilbon]

Trick. Aren't you supposed to be naked because you already showed your.

[Mike Ryan]

Ass? It's a good rhetorical trick, right? Because it's like until this year, they didn't earn their way into any big.

[Dan Le Batard]

Games. So just by the standards of this show, that has evidently made Mario crystal ball's reputation. Jonathan Zaslow proclaimed before a game this season that the Hurricanes were back, the expectations were back, that everything was fixed, and there would only be disappointment if they did not go undefeated. They lost their next big game against Louisville. It was the next game that they lost after Zaslow said this. Syracuse and Georgia Tech at the end of last season were big games for the conference.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Championship. That's what I would point.

[Dan Le Batard]

At. Like, I mean, and so they haven't played in that many big games. Beat Ohio State in the big.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Game that they played Notre Dame to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Start the season and Notre Dame and Texas A and M. Recently he has helped erase some of the reputation that he had that I did not give him. I was not the one who gave him that reputation. That's not me doing that. That's me being anti Miami. According to him. Who posts on threads this morning expecting no one to see it. Spot the goddamn ball. Bleep. Billy.

[Mike Ryan]

Corbin. What did he say about the minds, bodies and.

[Dan Le Batard]

Spirits? Yeah, well, I'll read it again because he says he's not.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Emotional. I mean, the reputation comes from before he got to Miami. He didn't get that reputation at.

[Mike Ryan]

Miami and then Georgia.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tech. He hasn't actually played in that many big games, but he had before. Man, Trista was here before the playoffs started and simply shrugging her shoulders and saying, cristobal always loses here. This is not something he's going to.

[Gianna Sanchez]

Win. One of the worst takes in the last few.

[Dan Le Batard]

Weeks. So quote from Threads this morning. You haven't been tested. Are you speaking directly to.

[Mike Wilbon]

Indiana?

[Dan Le Batard]

He. Or maybe he's speaking to Signetti or.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

All. I think he's talking to defensive coordinator from.

[Dan Le Batard]

Indiana. I think he's talking to all the Indiana players who are older than Mike. You haven't been tested. Our minds and bodies and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You're walking into an asylum. The same folks picking you have been pouring dirt on our grave for two and a half months. We're still standing. We're forged in fire and have been fighting for our lives longer than you've mattered. See you in a week. Spot the.

[Gianna Sanchez]

God. You get Ray Lewis to read that and I get goosebumps like I'm not gonna. Like I know maybe coming from Mike's threads that doesn't mean anything, that.

[Dan Le Batard]

He didn't want seen by.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Anybody. But man, that's a good.

[Mike Ryan]

Idea. Hell, since Halloween, who can we get to read.

[Dan Le Batard]

That? Well, Edrin James would have been good. Oh, let's just invite Keynes here and see who will read it. Just hurry up and invite some Hurry up and get me any kind. Get me any cane right now to read that and we'll see if we can do it better than Mike. We'll see how long it'll take us to.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Cane. It's like the lineup and usual suspects where they have to read what the witness said. Like they all try it. We see who sounds the.

[Mike Ryan]

Best. And just going back for a second. Dan, just some clarification that I'm looking for so that I can make sure our HR people know we have watched one of our employees get changed and you are telling an employee to get naked. But if he doesn't get naked, you're gonna get.

[Dan Le Batard]

Naked. Yeah, I'll lead the way on this. I'll have to lead the.

[Mike Ryan]

Way. Just wanted to make sure Greg.

[Dan Le Batard]

You could come on in here cuz you didn't do what we asked you to out there. So you can come right back in here if you want. Now you're even less visually than you were before. Do you have anything for us here? What did you think about this exchange between me and Mike.

[Greg Cody]

Ryan? I tended to agree with Mike if I'm being perfectly honest. I think Mario gets a bad continuing rap based on the end of the Georgia Tech game two years ago. I don't know what we're focusing on. All that matters is that the Canes have played must win games for about the last couple of months and won all of them. And I think the then controversial CFP decision to put Miami in over Notre Dame has absolutely been justified with neon.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

Flashing. I don't think it's in dispute that Criswell gets a bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Rap.

[Adrian Wojnarowski]

But. But that is the reputation. It might be a bad rap but that is the.

[Mike Wilbon]

Reputation. One's making it up like he he he historically unless it's Kyle Whittingham. And sure I heard someone make Syracuse a big game that I guess that tracks. Georgia Tech wasn't. It was just a loss. But he went to Columbus with Oregon in big time matchups against marquee opponents. When people say that team has more talent than you, Miami teams show up even if they fall short. Miami teams show up. They don't get played off. The last time this team lost a game by more than seven points was 2023. What has he done to earn this reputation? Because I'm looking at the pro column of the wins and the games that his team show up in. He just won a Fiesta bowl in which you could actually accuse his team of coming out sloppy and flat. He wins these games and if he doesn't win the games he plays within the margins and it's a close one or two possession game at the very end. What is this reputation? Do we follow the sport? Is ESPN doing this? Is this a PTI Mike Wilbon.

[Dan Le Batard]

Special?

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes. What what what what is the reputation? It's just not rooted in fact. It's not. It's Baseless. If anything, his reputation should be the opposite of what is being.

[Dan Le Batard]

Said. I think that because you are protective of the program, you are not hearing, surprisingly to me, that Mario Cristobal's coaching has been questioned at every point except until the last three games. It's been consistently questioned until the last three games. And it's not me doing it, Mike, it's. It's me hearing it everywhere. Like I said, reputationally, purposefully there, thinking it might soften you some. How'd that go for.

[Mike Ryan]

Me? Look, it used to be that you had to go undefeated to make it to the College Football Playoff, like in the acc. And so when each of the last few years, you and everyone else around the program have been saying, look at this Miami team, they're more talented than everybody around them. Look at the recruiting, look at the recruiting, look at the.

[Mike Wilbon]

Recruiting. So did.

[Mike Ryan]

We. When you then don't go undefeated and you lose games to teams like Syracuse when you had an opportunity to potentially make the playoff or even your own conference championship game, that is something that could be considered not showing up for big games. They've won the last several in a row against great.

[Mike Wilbon]

Teams. Like, if you want to say Mario Cristobal will occasionally lose the dumb one, I agree. If you want to still poke holes in his game day management, sure. But the reputation of a Mario Cristobal coach team at Miami not showing up for a big game against a marquee opponent, that is not just. Oh, you, you wait, let me give you some other evidence that it is flatly, objectively false. And his reputation should be, this team always shows up for the big ones. You would say, that's why I took such offense. Because it's not just not the truth, it is the exact opposite of what is the truth. It is ignorant to say.

[Dan Le Batard]

That. What's funny about what you're saying there? And they did win the last one, but good Lord, if they'd lost the last one, like if they just. If it's a pass interference at the end and they lose, he'd have that reputation right now, right now if they'd lost that.

[Gianna Sanchez]

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