The Big Suey: Old Yeller Cote

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Old Yeller Cote (April 1, 2026)

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Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the show's regular crew dive into a typically wide-ranging discussion, blending sports, pop culture, and meta-humor. The episode moves nimbly between NBA trends, Tiger Woods' ongoing personal saga, the era of "post-truth" on social media, and the enduring charm (and annoyance) of bad umpiring in Major League Baseball. There's the show's signature blend of sharp analysis, unchecked digressions, back-in-my-day wisdom from Greg Cody, April Fools' jokes, and a healthy dose of self-aware absurdity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA’s New Generation & Luka Doncic's Dominance

• Dan opens with a “start of the day” (02:00) highlighting Luka Doncic's remarkable scoring run, comparing it to Anthony Davis' entire Mavericks tenure, and then to Michael Jordan’s legendary 37 ppg season.
  • “He is doing over the last month Michael Jordan things offensively...” (03:19) – Dan Le Batard
• Conversation around the league's transition from legends (LeBron, Steph) to emerging faces (Luka, SGA, Wembanyama, Anthony Edwards).
  • “The transition is occurring without them having the drop-off...” (04:12) – Fibula
• Stugotz, Fibula, and Mike Ryan dig into the strength of personalities: needing both “cold, quiet efficiency” and charismatic stars.
• Analysis of the Lakers’ defense and playoff viability. Dan wonders if their recent defensive uptick is real or just a bad stretch for opponents.
  • “They do. They've been better recently because opponents are shooting 32% from three, but it's not because they're guarding them any better.” (06:36) – Dan Le Batard

Timestamps

• Luka’s scoring/cultural NBA shift: 02:00–06:37
• Lakers’ defense/playoff talk: 06:37–08:08

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2. April Fool’s Day & the “Post-Truth” Internet

• Bit on whether April Fool's feels meaningful anymore—everyone distrusts everything, especially on social.
  • “We killed April Fool's Day. I think everyone is on guard every day now. I approach the Internet the way you approach an electric socket with your hand wet.” (08:51) – Dan Le Batard
• Mike Ryan laments the intentional confusion and unreliability brought by AI, fake news, and the prevalence of misinformation.
  • “Billionaires love this Post Truth age. They have actually built it and perpetuated it because...nothing is real. You don't know what's real anymore.” (10:34) – Mike Ryan

Timestamps

• April Fools/Post-truth/Audiences on guard: 08:08–10:34

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3. Unexpected Japan-America Twitter Culture Exchange

• Tony introduces a surprising and earnest trend: Japanese Twitter users expressing fascination with “uniquely American” food and culture, especially pizza and barbecue.
  • “When I saw this pizza topped with a pizza in America, I thought, there's no way we can beat these guys.” (11:25) – Tony (translating a Japanese tweet)
• The group debates whether Tony’s being April Fooled, but he maintains its authenticity.

Timestamps

• “Pizza on pizza” & honky tonk Twitter crossover: 11:05–13:14

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4. Real vs. Perceived: Greg Cody’s Growling Stomach

• Comic interlude spins out of an in-studio controversy over Greg’s gurgling stomach and his inability to notice it.
  • “Greg is so used to his stomach being in turbulence that he's not hearing explosive sounds made by his stomach.” (13:14) – Dan Le Batard
• Comparisons to Daniel Cormier not noticing a smoke alarm beeping for months.
  • “No, nobody hears their own stomach.” (19:00) – Greg Cody

Timestamps

• Greg’s bodily deniability & audio evidence: 13:14–19:34

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5. The Enduring Fascination with Tiger Woods: Pain, Redemption & Privacy

• Dan, Greg, Mike, and the crew discuss Tiger Woods’ latest rehab stint, contextualizing his career as a story of prodigy-turned-fallen-icon enduring endless physical and emotional pain.
• Dan’s perspective: Tiger’s wealth can’t insulate him from being a “prisoner in his own body.”
  • “Tiger Woods is still the biggest thing in golf even though it's been four years since he's played on tour with any regularity…” (22:24) – Greg Cody
  • “This is a strong man weakened by humanity, by frailties...like, think about what that is to age.” (26:22) – Dan Le Batard
• They discuss the American sports tradition of rooting for redemption, even after scandal.
  • “He's gone from the peak of excellence to the ultimate underdog. And those are the two things we love in sports, the best and the underdog.” (43:37) – Greg Cody
• Mike Ryan and Tony note his cultural impact, changing the sport's demographics and TV ratings even in his downturn.
• The show's tone oscillates between empathy and psychoanalysis—balancing reverence for his achievements with skepticism for his privacy and hesitancy to show vulnerability.

Timestamps

• Tiger’s pain, legacy & public/private battle: 19:36–41:00

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6. Baseball Umpire Watch: CB Buckner, “the Angel Hernandez Successor”

• Dan and Stugotz shift to a sports oddity: the “bad umpire” as beloved spectacle.
  • “I now just associate [CB Buckner] with incompetence. An umpire that...this guy's going to get it wrong in ways that are publicly embarrassing.” (41:33) – Dan Le Batard
• Milwaukee broadcasters roast Buckner’s call; everyone agrees “behind the dish” is a douchey phrase (42:25).
• Greg Cody capitalizes with a quick joke: “Buckner is baseball’s most notorious Buckner since Bill.” (42:35)

Timestamps

• CB Buckner umpiring gaffes & old-yeller sports parenting: 41:00–44:27

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NBA generational change:

  "They've handed over the league to the other guys. Like, the other guys have taken the league...they are one-upping each other while trying to win the MVP trophy..."
  — Dan Le Batard (03:19)

• On April Fool's Day and modern skepticism:

  "I approach the Internet the way you approach an electric socket with your hand wet."
  — Dan Le Batard (08:51)

• On Tiger Woods' American sports myth:

  "He's gone from the peak of excellence to the ultimate underdog. And those are the two things we love in sports, the best and the underdog."
  — Greg Cody (43:37)

• On post-truth and misinformation online:

  "Billionaires love this Post Truth age. They have actually built it and perpetuated it because...nothing is real. You don't know what's real anymore."
  — Mike Ryan (10:34)

• Japanese Twitter's pizza awe:

  "When I saw this pizza topped with a pizza in America, I thought, there's no way we can beat these guys."
  — Tony (11:25, reading a translated tweet)

• On visceral denial:

  "Greg is so used to his stomach being in turbulence that he's not hearing explosive sounds made by his stomach."
  — Dan Le Batard (13:14)

• On sports parenting:

  "I'm the umpire. Yeller. Old yeller."
  — Greg Cody (44:21)

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Flow & Tone

The episode is full of the familiar Dan Le Batard Show DNA: clowning, meta-commentary, open-mic-level bit attempts (including on-air impersonations and dad jokes from Greg), and surprising depth—especially in the Tiger Woods segment, which blends biography, cultural criticism, and genuine empathy. Stugotz takes glee in the mundane as always, Mike Ryan brings consistent skepticism, and the show veers back and forth between earnest exploration and abrasive humor. April Fool’s Day is both a formal prompt and an inside joke—a meta-commentary on trust, truth, and how sports fans process news in 2026.

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Start | End | |------------------------------------|-------|-------| | NBA: Luka, generational shift | 02:00 | 08:08 | | April Fool’s/Post-truth internet | 08:08 | 10:34 | | Japan-America Twitter crossover | 11:05 | 13:14 | | Greg Cody’s stomach saga | 13:14 | 19:34 | | Tiger Woods: pain, legacy, rehab | 19:36 | 41:00 | | CB Buckner/Bad umpiring/Old Yeller | 41:00 | 44:27 |

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This Big Suey traversed the intersection of furiously evolving sports culture and the all-too-human flaws of its most famous figures. You’ll hear lively debate about which NBA superstars are ready to ascend, philosophical takes on truth in the digital era, empathy (and dark humor) around Tiger Woods’ public pain, and plenty of comic relief courtesy of Greg “Old Yeller” Cody and the bumbling spectacle of baseball umpires. If you want sharp sports insight seasoned heavily with self-aware absurdity and the shared experience of not really trusting anything on April 1st (or any day), this episode is a prototypical Dan Le Batard Show ride.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Tony]

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[Fibula]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Start of the day, start of the day. It is your start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Luka Doncic had more points in the month of March for the Lakers than Anthony Davis had his entire time with the Mavericks.

[Mike Ryan]

Nah, one more time.

[Stugotz]

At first I thought you were gonna

[Dan Le Batard]

say with the Lakers.

[Stugotz]

I like that.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no, no, no. But it's feel. It's feeling that way. But one more time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Only 10 players have ever scored 600 points in a month. Luca went for 40 again last night. And so he had more points in the month of March, more than 400 than Anthony Davis had in the entire time he was with the Mavericks.

[Fibula]

Now you see the vision.

[Greg Cody]

Weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

So basically, what you got back for Luka Doncic didn't score as much as Luka Doncic just scored in a month for the Lakers. What you got back for him, it's why it'll go down as, you know, the worst trade in the history of the sport. That said, though, and I knew Luka was good. I think we all knew Luca was good, but this, like, what is. What is this? We all knew he was good, but the idea that he's scoring right now at Michael Jordan levels. Michael Jordan's greatest season. The year Michael Jordan averaged 37 in a season. Correct. He is doing over the last month, Michael Jordan things offensively where it's just an unstoppable offensive thing, even though he's always been an unstoppable offensive thing. And one of the reasons I find this so cool and interesting, kind of quietly, While Steph and LeBron are still around, they've handed over the league to the other guys. Like, the other guys have taken the league where you're like, YIC and SGA and who's next? And it's Wemby. They've been able to transition out of that in a way that's been pretty exciting because it's. The offensive play is so good, and we love offense so much.

[Fibula]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And.

[Fibula]

And the crazy thing is those guys are. Are still great. Right. It's like. It's not just that the transition has started to occur, it's just that it's. A transition is occurring without them having the drop off of, like, oh, I'm just. I'm just the seventh guy on this bench trying to get my 10 points a night or whatever. So that's the really cool part. But, yeah, Jokic, I mean, excuse me, Doncic. Maybe I'm desensitized. There's no part of this that's shocking to me, and not even the Anthony Davis part, because, again, that's what made it a bad deal. It wasn't a bad deal because in retrospect, wow, it really didn't work out for the Mavericks. It was a bad deal on the day it was done, because we knew your concerns, Nico Harrison was. Were with the durability of your young superstar. So why would you go out and get an old superstar who also has durability issues?

[Mike Ryan]

We're in the midst of the most unpredictable run in the history of NBA basketball. When it comes to champions and title contenders, it's been, for some, maybe too wide open. That's really Good. Now with these players coming online and developing to the point that they are, because as Dan mentioned, you have some of the old guard Hardens with the Cavs, Durant's going to be in the equation with the, with the Rockets, LeBron still there, but you have these young new faces. I wouldn't necessarily count Jokic there. He's a multiple time MVP and he's won an NBA championship. But you have these faces of these franchises that are all really good teams. And all the sport needs really at this moment in time is an exceptional playoff. I think, and I think we're going to get it too. Because these series, the way that it's mapping out looks like they're going to be hotly contested. That is going to be so huge for the sport at this point in time.

[Fibula]

Yeah, look, the playoffs are going to be great. You look at the Eastern Conference, the difference between was it three and like six is a game and a half, two games or whatever. You look at the Western Conference between four and like seven is the same situation. So we're going to get hotly contested playoffs right from the first round. And I think what we have better than great players is we've got two guys who have personalities. Victor Wembanyama and Anthony Edwards. I think that's when we talk about handing over the reins. Dan, you need a personality to carry it because it can't just be cold, quiet, calculated efficiency. Tim Duncan couldn't handle those reigns. Not because he wasn't good enough as a player, he was an amazing player, but just he didn't have the personality desire to.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't need all of them to have personality. You need seven, 10 guys who are great that we're going to have an interest in to go up against the guys with the personality. Larry Bird. Larry Bird had quiet personality, but he wasn't. We can go back throughout the history of time here. The fact that we've got nine guys that are competing for best in the league and the fact that they are one upping each other while trying to win the MVP trophy, that, that Luke is playing the best basketball you've ever seen him shooting 40% from three during the stretch when everybody's trying to stop him and doing it for that franchise. I want to ask you for your expertise on something though. The Lakers stink at defense. They do. They've been better recently because opponents are shooting 32% from three, but it's not because they're guarding them any better. It's weird. People are shooting poorly against them. And furthermore where they have gotten better and this has helped their defense, they're turning the ball over a lot less. And so the numbers going the other way on fast breaks against old guys are not. It's. That has not been happening over three weeks. I have said for a while that team can't win the championship playing defense that way. I still think so. I think it's a bad stretch of shooting. But can they fix that? Because if they can fix that and you've got Luka, you've got the things you need to win a championship against an OKC or anybody else. I just think they're bad at defense and are going to be bad at defense in the playoffs.

[Fibula]

Now, when you say, can they fix that, is this an April Fool's thing that we're doing here? Because if so, hold on. I have my friend here who'd like to chime in. Blair, it's me. Fibula. And yes, of course they can fix it. I love this day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now you're gonna tell me who fibula is on the front end to telegraph your joke as you announce who you're impersonating. The lying vampire.

[Mike Ryan]

Does April Fool's Day have the same kind of juice that it has for you in the past?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because I think every day is right.

[Mike Ryan]

That was my. I been approaching the Internet as if everything's been fake for close to a year now. So April Fool's Day, you gotta work harder than that. Like, it's crazy how conditioned I am now. We are so cooked because I don't trust anything.

[Dan Le Batard]

We killed it. We killed April Fool's Day. I think everyone is on guard every day now. I approach the way the Internet the way you approach like an electric socket with your hand wet. Like. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't trust anything on any day. I have to run, like, several searches to get three sources to back up what I'm seeing. I'm scrutinizing everything because everything AI is so advanced, everything appears real. That April Fool's Day is just a. It's just a Wednesday.

[Fibula]

I love that, Mike. Just. I have to go look for multiple sources. Yeah, that's what you should have been doing the whole time. That's the thing I've been saying this whole time. It started with all these fake, like, breaking news. Klay Thompson is getting bought out. He's signing with the Spot.

[Stugotz]

Adam Shafter.

[Fibula]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, guys, Barry McCockiner. Yeah. It's.

[Fibula]

It's not that hard. Like, wow, that's pretty big news. Let me see who else is reporting it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you're talking to, like, the audience. Like, I've known this, like, as soon as the blue checks were just a free for all. Like, we've had. We've been on our. On our toes right now, like, especially for a show like ours, like, trying to suss out what's real and what's fake. But I got to say, like, I think Post Truth has really killed April Fool's Day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Has April Fool's Day been killed? Because I think that happened quietly, but I think it did indeed die. And we will be talking later in the show to Brett Ehrlich. Mike Ryan was very excited when he heard he was gonna be on with us about what Twitter has done and what Elon Musk has done specifically to that algorithm to bleep with democracy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes. I mean, that's. That's what the intention is. This is hugely intentional for you to not know what's real, because then the defense of fake news, it holds water because so many different things are fake. This is absolutely intentional. Billionaires love this Post Truth age. They have actually built it and perpetuated it because they love this because they can easily see, like, where'd you get that? On the Internet? No, that's not real, because nothing is real. You don't know what's real anymore.

[Fibula]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

Sure.

[Tony]

That's all cool. But have you guys seen the merging between American and Japanese Twitter over the weekend? Did you guys see that? Nobody.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Tony]

Nobody saw that. Okay. So they started putting on people's timelines, Japanese tweets from people in Japan in Japanese, and then they would translate them to see what they were saying. And, dude, they love us, and we love them. It's been the biggest. It's been the biggest. Like, was it Predator where they had the hand?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Okay, I know what you're saying.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

That's been the biggest thing for the. For the Japanese and American relation in the longest time. I have a couple tweets that I want to put up that were translated onto my timeline. Can we put up the pizza tweet first? So it's a pizza tweet. Somebody puts up a piece of pizza that has little tiny pizzas as toppings of the pizza. Yeah. So you've never seen that before? Pizza inception. So this is a uniquely American thing, because I don't think anybody else really has that somewhere. And somebody in Japanese wrote something, and then it was translated to. When I saw this pizza topped With a pizza in America, I thought, there's no way we can beat these guys. They have a bunch of great stuff like this. Put up the honky tonk love. Japan loves honky tonk culture. Dan, did you know that? They love grilling meats. They love barbecuing with the boys.

[Greg Cody]

Look at this.

[Tony]

I'm gonna put this up on the screen here. Just a bunch of guys just hanging around grilling a bunch of steaks. I use sometimes. It's kind of small to see if I had to choose between American men and meat. I'd love to see this photo. I want to participate in this event in person someday. Somebody in Japan seeing a barbecue saying, you know what?

[Greg Cody]

I want to be a part of this.

[Fibula]

Is it possible that. Tony, you're getting April fooled right now?

[Tony]

No, this is 100%.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're saying the Internet is bringing us together between Japan and America just mere weeks after our president insulted.

[Tony]

You guys are worried about the wrong stuff. You guys are worried about the wrong

[Dan Le Batard]

stuff by saying no one wanted a surprise before Pearl Harbor.

[Tony]

Again, you guys are worried about the wrong stuff. I'm talking about pizza on pizza and somebody saying they can't best. They can't beat us because we have pizza on pizza.

[Greg Cody]

They don't have charcoal in Japan.

[Tony]

Of course they do. They do. Beautiful charcoal. Beautiful barbecue in Japan.

[Greg Cody]

But. So why are they astonished by the idea of people grilling steaks?

[Tony]

Because just the community, the community of honky tonk, the community of Southern culture in America, they're fascinated by it over there because they don't really have that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, thank you for that sound, because I want to talk about what's real and what's not real, because I had an argument with your dad, Chris, during the break where I said to your father, do you realize how loud your stomach is? And he's like, my stomach's not making any sound. And I'm like, greg, you're having nothing but coffee for 16 hours. You haven't eaten since 4 o' clock yesterday. You're drinking two thermoses of coffee.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. A little bacon as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

That sound is your stomach and it's gurgling. And Greg said to me, straight face. He's like, I didn't hear anything. My stomach's not making any sound. And I'd just like to put this on the poll at Lebatard show. When your stomach has growled, do you always know it? Because Greg is so used to his stomach being in turbulence that he's not hearing explosive sounds made by his stomach. Look, he's. Greg, we're not making this up, okay? Because I killed your son.

[Greg Cody]

Explosive.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, listen to this. This is not altered in any way.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, right. That's a pig on a farm.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, I'm going to give you the. You have the context for Chris, or you just have that.

[Stugotz]

That is have the isolate. I'll get the longer version.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, that's absolutely you. And I'm tell.

[Greg Cody]

Telling Greg fake news. Speaking of fake news, you tell him, Greg.

[Stugotz]

I have it as a frog.

[Greg Cody]

Really? It sounds like a pig. It's a snort. That's a snorting sound. Quit that. Quit doing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fibula is so limited. You tell him, Greg. You're the you can do it guy in Water Boy as a lying vampire. Such a limited impersonation,

[Stugotz]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Roy]

Yo.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Roy]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard this is the quickest it goes. Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats, everybody. This is the quickest it goes. Yeah. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Roy]

You mean to tell me that you

[Dan Le Batard]

don't feel a rumble at all?

[Greg Cody]

No rumble.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think he has lived in this kind of discomfort for so long that he is almost completely numb to it. Do you guys remember when former UFC champion Daniel Cormier was on with us and his alarm, the alarm on his fire alarm kept beating, beeping because the battery was dead. And the smoke detector? The smoke detector.

[Stugotz]

Thank you.

[Tony]

Alarm of the fire alarm.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

The soundtrack to many recruiting interviews.

[Dan Le Batard]

When we're trying to talk to Dan. Daniel Cormier. Cormier. We said to him, hey, you got to get that battery fixed. And his response was to like, you guys can hear that too? Because I've been hearing that for months. Where is that sound coming from? He doesn't hear his own stomach make these sounds because he's been living with these sounds for so long that he's numb to him.

[Greg Cody]

No, nobody hears their own stomach.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, your stomach is making these kinds of sounds. If you don't hear it, you should at the very least feel it. That kind of sound has to come with a physical Feeling that's running through your stomach?

[Greg Cody]

No, I like when I have dancing swords. I feel that in. In a lower region. What number is that? It may make the list.

[Dan Le Batard]

There you go.

[Fibula]

Dan, you wanted one.

[Greg Cody]

We'll see. You know, souffle's in the oven.

[Stugotz]

What number is that?

[Roy]

That's callback.

[Tony]

No, he's right. He's right about that.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wanted to get to. And I'm too late in getting to it. A news that was, I would say, fairly unusual yesterday, even though all of us could have seen it coming. It has been a really long time since Tiger woods was a meaningful, competitive golfer. He exists in an area unlike most others who have ever played games in that he was so dominant and in his sport, people can win old that there is a large contingent of people who move the ratings in golf because they think he can still win when he can't. This has been the case for damn near 15 years. But that hope keeps him so relevant that when he goes to rehab, even though it's not unexpected because all of us were shouting some form of somebody get him help. He needs help. Tiger. Please get yourself some help. Because everyone was seeing some of the symptoms of addiction. When you keep turning over your car and the police find pills on you and you've already turned over your car in the way that almost made you lose a leg. And I've been talking about the seven back surgeries and the pain of the seven back surgeries. Can you look up how many leg surgeries he's had as well? Just because I imagine if you guys have ever talked to anybody who's had, never mind minor back pain, but just chronic back pain, and now multiply that by whatever is seven surgeries, and I'm. I'm going to guess he's had 15 leg surgeries as well. This. This guy has been medicated for a long time in order to do what he still tries to do because it's who he is, but can no longer do that way at all because his body has failed it.

[Mike Ryan]

Grain of salt with Google AI Overview. But five knee surgeries, two Achilles tendon procedures.

[Fibula]

We just talked about this, Mike. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I'm in live programming and that's why I couched it. Don't go Google like he's in the middle of a point. I get it that you're interrupting.

[Dan Le Batard]

How did you receive the news, Greg, when you saw something that I think we're all made sad by, but I do. I have not talked to your son about this, who's a golf fan. I believe, and I know riches make it so that it makes it very hard for people to absorb what I'm about to say. I believe that Tiger woods is a prisoner in his own body and that that body is wracked with pain and his life is far less lovely than we imagine it probably could be with all of that money and access.

[Greg Cody]

I have an eternal fascination with Tiger woods and I have for 30 years. I think he's one of the most interesting athletes and post athletes in my lifetime. I think Tiger woods is still the biggest thing in golf even though it's been four years since he's played on tour with any regularity because of all these injuries. I wish him well. I'm glad that he's taking care of himself or appearing to make an effort to take care of what has been a pretty obvious problem of his for years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you think I have this wrong though in citing as unusual? How unusual the hope is that a 50 year old. This guy's close to my age. That a 50 year old still he can win the Masters. Golf guys can win when they're old. That hope makes him a still relevant athlete. It's more relevant than just about anyone else going to rehab outside of LeBron. LeBron, like in American sports. In American sports we talked about Steph Curry and LeBron giving over the league. Tiger still hasn't given over golf. The numbers spike every time he does anything.

[Greg Cody]

If he played, if he were to play and he won't now, I'm sure if he were to play in the Masters next week, the TV ratings would be up 20%. And if he made the cut and played on a Sunday and. And was only three back or whatever the. It would be like but a major deal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's talk about though, the lack of precedent for what it is that you're witnessing. An athlete in his 50s is supposed to be washed up. This is someone who. I don't know. How many years are we from. What is the relevant playing career of Tiger Woods? The. The merit based excellence. How long has it been since Tiger woods could reasonably be considered to possibly win a tournament?

[Mike Ryan]

He won the Masters in 2019.

[Dan Le Batard]

So it's been about that long.

[Mike Ryan]

And it was an incredible comeback story that had everyone glued to their television.

[Dan Le Batard]

That makes people think that he could do it again six years later.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

It's the possibility. And, and you see that in golf in a way you don't see it in other sports. Up until a few years ago, Freddie Couples Had a reputation of being the old golfer who would really rise in the majors and. And make a cut.

[Mike Ryan]

And Freddy Couples at the. At the Masters, getting people excited. Dan, you remember Tom Watson at the British Open?

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just. I just texted the PTI guys. Just texted him. You know what I missed? The people who produced pti. You know what I miss most about all things espn? That first round Thursday of the British Open when I could talk about Jim Furyk in the A block.

[Mike Ryan]

What a repulsive tournament to look at on tv.

[Tony]

Did you text them all together in a group or like individual.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was a group.

[Stugotz]

You have all the shows by group text, like the around the horn guy?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Fibula]

Is it titled PTI Guys, how grateful

[Mike Ryan]

were you for Tom Watson? He gave you three days.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did. Tom Watson gave us a run whenever Tony and Mike would take off. I'd get stuck on that Thursday with talk for a minute and a half about Jim Fury. Make it interesting. Unique swing, lead the show. Give us all you got on VJ Singh. Vj. The thing about this story, though, that really resonates for me, okay. This is a strong man weakened by humanity, by frailties. We've done the pop psychology the last couple of days of trying to please your dad. Dad, you know, buried in an unmarked grave. I urge you all to watch the HBO Max Unauthorized documentary because Tiger did not participate in it. On it's two parts and it's pretty exhaustive and well reported. Much like Tom Brady had two hall of Fame careers. Tiger woods has had two careers. He's got everything before the public adultery and then everything afterward and how it is that we absorb him. And it's two generations of information, two of them totally different. One is prodigy excellence. His dad did such a good job. Look at the robot he made. He's on Merv Griffin. As a child, he was programmed for this. This was going to be. He made all his dad's dreams come true. He must be so happy. Then the next 20 years, for an entire generation of, oh, that used to be Tiger Woods. He's got his demons. Those are all things that we haven't quite seen of our Michael Jordan's and our Tom Brady's before, where the temptations grab you and they range from sex addiction, loneliness to. To drugs and now painkillers, because what you do physically hurts. And the torque of swinging that way with a bad back means that every single morning you wake up and where the hell are the meds? What do I need to do? Not to feel high, not to feel low. What do I need to do. It's not. I can't even get to the highs anymore. What do I need to do to not feel low? And you're the greatest champion we've known. Like, think about what that is to age. However, remember I told you guys the story of this was God Almighty 25 years ago. I told you guys the story of feeling sad for Michael Jordan while in China. Because I'm like, you used to be the symbol for all the globe on what youth is. And I'm seeing you struggle up the stairs of the Berlin Wall. That must be tougher to age like him. I'm sorry. The great. My bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Although I wouldn't put anything past mj.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. Thank you.

[Fibula]

Then I don't think you should apologize.

[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard is there.

[Greg Cody]

Back in my day, there is actually.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

Were you not gonna tell anyone? Wait a minute, you guys. Guys, it's a Tuesday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats here's your guy, Greg Cody with Back in My Day.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery.

[Mike Ryan]

We're waiting for this one.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the D Levatar show with the St. Aging. When you've been that great at something,

[Mike Ryan]

I love that you're trying to have an aging conversation. When he makes a great wall in China with the Berlin Wall.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a bad mistake. I realized that as soon as I did it. The Berlin Wall would be strange if that was in China.

[Greg Cody]

It would. Yeah. Trade. Trade walls.

[Dan Le Batard]

The. The thing that I find interesting about everything happening with him is that he suffered.

[Greg Cody]

Suffering.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's suffering at the end of what could have been his life in a couple of these accidents.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. And he's never quite retired either. It would be one thing if five years ago he went out on top after winning his last major in 19, but he hasn't. He's still hanging on. And among the fascinating things I find about him is that he's gone from the peak of excellence to the ultimate underdog. And those are the two things we love in sports, the best and the underdog. And he's that underdog right now. If he played the Masters next week, nobody in his right mind thinks he's going to win. But the possibility is still there of him in a red shirt on a Sunday. And that's enough. I root for him. I am a homer when it comes to Tiger Woods. I wish him nothing but the best. I hope he has one more major in him, if not to win it, at least to be in it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This part is interesting, though, the way this stuff changes, because I think that Pitino was somebody who had a lot of people rooting for him in this last tournament. It is an unusual thing. It is an unusual thing for us to bury someone when they betray us with what their public image is and then at the end sometimes come around just like human beings on forgiveness and being someone who roots for Tiger woods. Because I just remember the specifics so much of when he cheated on his wife. He lost so many of you with what it was that felt like betrayal. Like you thought you knew that guy. And he did something that even though you know men can't be trusted, he did something that made you feel betrayed on what his public image was because you were force fed for 20 years by Nike and everyone else, by his dad and everyone else. This is the prodigy. He's going to save the country club. This guy is perfect. He's a robot of golf.

[Greg Cody]

And now he's the face of fallibility. The Guy in police mugshots. It's just such a spiral. His image is taken, that you root for him. I do. Anyway. You know, he's. He's wildly imperfect, and that makes him interesting to me.

[Stugotz]

It's interesting how few golf fans I can think of that have, like, turned on Tiger. They all seem to kind of have

[Fibula]

that take at the time, though, Chris. Like, now. Sure, at the time, man, it was. It was a massive scandal. And especially, as we found out, the details, it's not just, oh, he cheated on his wife. It's like, this guy was banging waitresses from Shoney's, man. Like, that was the part where I'm like, whoa, Perkins.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, probably Shoney's, too. Probably. It's easy to confuse it, too. But, yeah, in the middle of that PR storm, it was bad. He got out of it. Why? Because he has an adoring public. Beloved. Yes, he's beloved. Fortunately for him and others, he hasn't hurt anybody, which was the easy stance to take on this, which is, you're gonna get somebody else hurt, all right? You're dealing with your demons. Don't take somebody down with you. He hasn't done that. He's only hurting himself right now and his family, and he can dig himself out of it, and he's got the support of everyone, including the media. Everybody likes Tiger. Hell, the media needs Tiger. The sport needs Tiger. Still, at this age, he's in a good spot to get right.

[Dan Le Batard]

What an unusual, interesting thing, though, to remember the specifics of this press conference that he did in front of a blue screen in Orlando. The reason I remember it is because there was so much howling around him, because we had seen some threads of his private life come out in public, and he was a womanizing hound. The braying betrayal of howling at him made it so in front of that blue screen in Orlando, after hearing people be like, give us an apology. Explain yourself. What the hell is this? He's holding his mom in front of us, and I'm like, why did anyone want this? We wanted this. We wanted this. We called for this. We wanted this, and now we're watching it. Ooh, we didn't want this. This doesn't feel good. From that point, whatever the frailty and the fallibility is it, in it, he gets to go in the most unusual way from conquering hero to fallible human being, to the support of everyone being like, we're rooting for you, Tiger. And it helps him not at all. At the core of the physical pain, never mind the emotional pain. The physical pain of he gets every morning and where are my pills? I need. I need more than I've ever needed because I've had so many surgeries because my body. And I'm still out here trying to be the guy I was because I need to please my adoring public. I need to be the guy my dad thought I was. Like, I need to keep being out here competing because without competing, who am I? I'm just a guy popping pills. I gave my entire body over to all of this and now I can't stop taking the pills.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, when you carry two pills with you on the road, that's. That's a definite indication. I wonder about his mental health. I do. I wonder if he's had therapy. I know he. Early on when the only person he owed an apology to was his wife. He claimed a sex addiction addiction. I wonder if he has had work on his mental health. I know he says now he's going into therapy for presumably the pill addiction, but maybe he needs something beyond that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I guess when I ask you for your support or whatever it is on seeing the human parts of what Tiger woods is as an immortal mortal. The mortal parts of the immortal. It's just this. Imagine every morning you get up in the morning and your back is just killing you. That you can't. That you can't move around and function because you keep. You need another surgery, you need an eighth surgery because they cut you open and they can't fix it. Like you say, his mental health. I'm talking about his physical health. Because people who are in this kind of pain do harm themselves. They think about harming themselves because that ends the pain.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but we assume right now that he's in constant pain.

[Dan Le Batard]

How could you not though, is what I'm saying? How could you not? If he doesn't. If the. If the culture of sports is. And the culture of men is. Don't tell anybody about how you hurt.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just hide that. Don't tell the public you're. You're part of a marketing machine. You are many economies over. Don't go out there and tell anybody you got a pill problem. Don't go out there and tell anybody how broken you are physically, because that's weakness. Nothing. There's nothing about anything that rewards him being vulnerable in public. Nothing.

[Greg Cody]

But I'm just not assuming he's in constant pain. I would just as soon assume that maybe he's over medicating himself. Maybe he's taking pills for pain that isn't really there. I Have no idea.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he gains a lot by being vulnerable in public. Like I said, everybody's rooting for him. So that'll just make people hold their heart and go on even more.

[Dan Le Batard]

But he hasn't been.

[Mike Ryan]

No. He could buy more by being vulnerable. But very clearly, this is a dude that values his privacy.

[Tony]

This was the last stop, right? Like, he didn't have any more get out of jail free cards without using the hey, I'm going to go seek help. He's never said, I'm going to go seek help for any sort of pain pill or DUI or anything like that. Like, this is the first time we've seen it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's been embarrassed in public before. Okay. And I don't know what the pressures and hardships because he's never revealed them. He does not talk about this stuff. I don't know. He was burned in the first interview he ever gave. He was in the back of a limo with Charles Pierce. He made some sort of lesbian joke and then the whole machine shut up, shut down around him. Like at the very beginning of his career, he never said anything interesting again. He was never himself again in public. Not one time, ever. He was always. Tell me if I have this wrong, Greg. Just marching marketing robot for Nike.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, right. The Michael Jordan aesthetic, you know, where he's not going to say anything particularly interesting or anything to damn himself.

[Dan Le Batard]

But yes, of course, what you guys are saying is part of the rehab tour. If what he cares about is the optics and the business of being Tiger woods. Because it's a giant business. Giant business. If that's what he cares about. On how this looks. Yes, of course he sits down and talks about all of this, but we've never seen it in his career. Like the fact that this guy has been in public for 30 years and the dirt is what you know, because you don't really know anything else about him. You know, the upbringing, you know the story. The darkness was revealed to you by accident. He didn't ever want any of that scene. Still doesn't goes to rehab now to avoid the embarrassment of it. Because there must great shame in all of this. You know how we say all the time there's no shame in needing help, no wrong. He's only seeking it now because there's shame in needing help.

[Greg Cody]

And, and, but yet overriding all of that, what we do know about Tiger woods is the excellence that is virtually unparalleled. And beyond that, in a way that Jack Nicklaus never did, he revolutionized golf. He opened the doors to people of color to be interested in golf. And I think that's a generational thing that lasts. That's his legacy to me, isn't just the 15 majors. It's that he revolutionized golf.

[Fibula]

Dan, I've got the solution for Tiger woods, right? So we've been talking for three days now. Tiger, just get a driver. He's like, no, I don't want a driver in my privacy and all that stuff. And we've been fighting, like, how do we figure it out? I got the solution. Waymo. Get Tiger Wood to Waymo. Now he don't have to worry about drivers and privacy or anything like that.

[Mike Ryan]

And he's not behind the wheel to put Tiger in a car that is literally surrounded by cameras.

[Fibula]

I must admit, I did not think this through.

[Stugotz]

He should build his own Waymo. That's like, this is mine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your solution.

[Mike Ryan]

That's an idea man right there, folks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your solution.

[Stugotz]

How much just for this one? I want it forever.

[Greg Cody]

A Waymo with no cameras.

[Fibula]

Evenmo.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you are telling Tiger woods the solution for get a driver is get a car that doesn't have a driver. Driver.

[Fibula]

That's right. Don't know why I showed up. Hold on.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's very limited. Fibula, Fibula. Fibula is a very limited impersonation. And I'm here for him being here the rest of the week. I want to get to a story that I've not been able to get to because I miss Angel Hernandez. I know you all like to complain about the officiating and umpiring, but we have NCB Buckner, somebody who is angling for. For being the greatest of all time at being the worst of all time at umpiring. The things going on with CB Buckner right now make him so that he is the rare baseball umpire that makes his way out of the sport into. Now I just associate him with incompetence. An umpire that I. A name I now just associate like Angel Hernandez with. This guy's going to get it wrong in ways that are publicly embarrassing.

[Stugotz]

This guy is just my hero. It's now you have to tune in whenever. CB Buckner, he's behind the dish tonight. Last week, he made news for missing multiple calls, having a bunch of challenges, go against in the crowd cheering, like, anytime he got it wrong. And last night he was at first base. So a little appetizer before today when he's buying the dish and he just flat out. A runner running to first base clearly touches the bag and then Buckner, and they end up tagging him and Buckner's like, he never touched first, so he's out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you can see the evidence here. I want to get to the audio, but please put it on the poll at Lebitard show douche or no douche saying behind the dish.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, I'll just. Yes, it's douche. And I love doing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know you love doing it, and every time you do it, it's monumental. Douche.

[Greg Cody]

I can't disagree with that. Buckner is the baseball's most notorious Buckner since Bill.

[Mike Ryan]

He's right about that.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

He had that lined up. Like, he got in there. He jostled in there and got in there with a joke. Ready? Really?

[Greg Cody]

There wasn't a great on ramp for that joke. I probably should have held it a little bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but you're not good at holding jokes.

[Greg Cody]

No, I'm not.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to just get to the audio, please, of the announcers. Just don't understand. We just showed you the video of. Clearly, the runner has touched first base.

[Stugotz]

The brewers broadcasters just let CB have it.

[Tony]

So the call from CB Buckner is

[Dan Le Batard]

that Jake Bowers missed first base, and I think that is the horrendous call. Where is CB Buckner looking? He's not even looking at it. Why would he even say that? CB Buckner was not even looking at the play. He stepped right on top of First Bay. I'm not sure what CB Buckner is looking at there. That's ridiculous.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I'm really excited for him to

[Dan Le Batard]

have the plate tomorrow. He's safe. Goals overturned. Milwaukee retains your shouts. That's just a waste of time reviewing that. At least review is available so you

[Stugotz]

can get it right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, no kidding. Everybody laughing at that call. It doesn't make any sense, though.

[Stugotz]

Like, he's clearly looking away in the photo we have where he's clearly on the back, you see Buckner just looking in an opposite direction.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, like the umpire at Grayson's game last week that I argued about. Yes, same thing. If I'm there, I'm yelling at that umpire. That's part of the beauty of sports, by the way. We love the imperfection.

[Stugotz]

We covered this on the Greg Cody Show. My dad, I was mad at him because he was 10ft away screaming at a coach, pitch umpire.

[Greg Cody]

That's part of the charm of baseball, is.

[Stugotz]

No, it's not. When all the other parents are looking. All the other parents are looking at me like, who's this old guy that hasn't shown up for anything else yelling at the umpire.

[Greg Cody]

I'm the umpire. Yeller. Old yeller.

[Roy]

But.