The Big Suey: Phoenix's Roads

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — The Big Suey: Phoenix's Roads

Date: March 6, 2026
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
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Episode Overview

In this episode of "The Big Suey," Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew dive deep into a typically wide-ranging show spanning NBA drama, the pending Pablo Torre revelations live from the MIT Sloan conference, star athlete theatrics, and even a surprisingly passionate debate about the best sports towns (and local road quality!). The crew's banter is irreverent and playful as always, with sharp takes on sports media, star player behavior, and league rules. The tone is light, fast-paced, and self-aware, moving between games, gossip, and cultural tangents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pablo Torre’s Big Reveal at MIT Sloan

• Hype over Pablo Torre's latest investigation:
  • Pablo is set to reveal new details about Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers’ “aspiration deal” at the MIT Sloan Analytics Conference, with NBA Commissioner Adam Silver present at the same event (03:15).
  • Anticipation about live reactions from Amin and David Samson, streaming at 5:30pm.
  • Recurring jokes about Pablo’s symposia rockstar status and the nerdy, exclusive nature of MIT Sloan.
  • “Pablo loves a good symposium.” — Tony (04:46)
  • “If he’s gonna say things … and Adam Silver is there, that takes some guts if you ask me.” — Dan (05:59)
• Speculation: Potentially explosive and industry-shaking revelations expected.

2. NBA Recap: LeBron’s Dramatic Injury & Luka’s Technicals

• LeBron James’ “elbow injury” vs. Denver Nuggets:
  • Dan recounts LeBron’s theatrical fall late in the game; team lightly mocks how LeBron grabbed both elbows alternately and never actually hit the ground (07:27–10:09).
  • “He can’t get up, he cannot stand. Because everybody knows, when you hurt your elbow, your legs don’t work.” — Dan (09:44)
  • Group debates athlete theatrics and how fandom and officials respond in modern sports, with Trista tracing it back to soccer and how the “bit” has spread to the NFL and NBA (10:34).
• Luka Doncic picks up 15th technical foul:
  • Now one technical away from a suspension; the group debates Luka’s temper and constant ref-baiting (12:47, 13:06).
  • Dan questions Luka’s “treatment” and his comparison to how other stars are handled:
    • “Someone else said the exact same thing I did and they didn’t get a technical—Luka, do you want to be treated the same as everyone else?” — Dan (14:51)
  • Luka’s (mocked) complaint about fairness and highlight of superstar privilege.

3. NBA MVP Debate & 65-Game Rule Backlash

• Debate over new rule requiring MVPs to play at least 65 games:
  • Discussion on whether Nikola Jokic or Shai Gilgeous-Alexander should be penalized for missing games to injury rather than for “load management” (21:15).
  • Zas quizzes the crew: Only one player (Bill Walton) has won MVP while playing fewer than 65 games before (22:02).
  • “Let the voters decide!” — Zas (22:22)
  • Debate on how the league’s attempt to enforce attendance might backfire.

4. The San Antonio Spurs & Wembanyama’s Meteoric Rise

• Spurs sweep Pistons, Wembanyama shines:
  • Victor Wembanyama drops 38 points, 16 rebounds; crew jokes about the prophecy of generational talents and how close the Spurs are to fulfilling unprecedented hype (22:44; 23:32; 24:59).
  • “If they win right now, in his third year … that’s—we’ve never seen anything like that.” — Dan (26:59)
• Stacking up against history:
  • Comparison to LeBron, Magic, and Zion’s rookie-year expectations.
  • Observations about San Antonio’s front office and the "art" of tanking vs. sustained competitiveness (27:37).

5. Heat/Hornets/Pistons Parity and Tanking Philosophy

• What’s better: perpetual playoff contention or going for broke to win it all?
  • Jeremy and Dave engage in a spirited debate about the merits of the Heat’s steady competitiveness vs. aggressive tanking and tearing down for a star-driven rebuild (29:03–30:41).
  • “I'd rather be bad for three years than play-in for three.” — Dave (29:49)
  • “For 20 years, that’s what the Heat have been doing.” — Jeremy (30:07)
• Miami loyalty vs. potential for greatness—what would a fan prefer?

6. Russell Westbrook vs. Sacramento Media Meltdown

• Westbrook’s postgame rant:
  • Russ calls out the Sacramento media for speculation and mischaracterization after another loss; the clip is played and dissected (34:13).
  • “Stop telling the media what their job is. …99% of professional athletes have no idea what the media’s job actually is.” — Dan (36:05)
• Discussion of athlete-media divide:
  • Zas and Dan reflect on the real vs. perceived expectations for Sacramento and what happens to teams who briefly catch “hype” before falling apart (38:09).

7. If You Could Be a Free Agent Anywhere...Even for the Roads

• Wild “where would you want to play” segment—based on arena, city, and…road quality:
  • Zas names “Phoenix—great roads!” and the crew loses it, riffing on the smoothness of Phoenix asphalt as a free agent draw (41:27).
  • “You know about them good roads.” — Dan (41:57)
  • Miami, LA, New York, Dallas, Toronto, Montreal floated as legacy destinations, with debates over fan passion, pressure, climate, and lifestyle.
  • Trista pushes back: “You guys are a bunch of traders!” (45:18)
• Uniforms, arena aesthetics, and sports culture as deciding factors for hypothetical free agent moves.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Pablo loves a good symposium.” — Tony (04:46)
• “He can’t get up, he cannot stand. Because everybody knows, when you hurt your elbow, your legs don’t work.” — Dan (09:44)
• “I'd rather be bad for three years than play-in for three.” — Dave (29:49)
• “Stop telling the media what their job is. …99% of professional athletes have no idea what the media’s job actually is.” — Dan (36:05)
• “Phoenix. Great roads in Phoenix and a pretty decent arena.” — Zas (41:27)
• “You know about them good roads.” — Dan (41:57)
• “You guys are a bunch of traders!” — Trista (45:18)

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Segment Timestamps

• 01:24: Show officially starts — playful intro, plugs, and rapid-fire banter.
• 02:09–06:56: Building hype for Pablo Torre’s MIT Sloan live show and the Kawhi/Clippers investigation.
• 07:27–12:47: NBA round-up—LeBron “injury,” sports theatrics, compression gear fashion, and Luka’s techs.
• 13:06–15:13: Luka Doncic responds to refs—debate on technicals and star treatment.
• 18:14–24:59: Spurs/Pistons recap, Wembanyama’s ascent, and “prophecy fulfillment.”
• 25:23–26:59: Spurs' Western Conference chances; historical rookie hype.
• 29:03–30:58: Tanking vs. sustained competition—Heat vs. Spurs, fan philosophy.
• 34:10–37:00: Russell Westbrook’s Sacramento media rant dissected.
• 40:28–45:28: Sports destinations: Miami, LA, Phoenix, and “good roads” laughter.

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Tone and Style

The show is at its best—loose, unfiltered, inside-joke-laden, and delighting in the absurdities of sports and sports media. Hostility is always in fun, and the cast is quick to roast each other, riff on sport/city culture, and undercut all pretension. The sports analysis is rapid and smart, but never solemn.

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Takeaway

This "Big Suey" is a snapshot of modern sports fandom—cynical about league rules, media narratives, and superstar drama, but deeply passionate about city loyalty, team-building philosophy, and even the unsung virtues of municipal infrastructure. For anyone tuning in, it’s a chaotic ride with sharp insight, endless bits, and just enough serious debate to keep sports talk interesting.

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Dave]

I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Dave]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Jeremy]

This episode of the Dan LeBatard show is presented by DraftKings.

[Trista]

DraftKings.

[Jeremy]

The crown is yours.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. I think you're so cute. Huh? And your glasses.

[Jeremy]

I do. I was already called cute today.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, very good. Mike, what's coming up with Pablo today? Pablo's got a lot going on. Yeah.

[Dave]

So Pablo, as you know, has made news around the world over his Kawhi investigations. And today, live from MIT Sloan, which Pablo's gotta be a rock star there. He's going to be doing a live edition of Pablo. Torre finds out I've been told that this one is gonna be a spicy meatball.

[Dan Le Batard]

So is he gonna reveal something in front of a live audience?

[Dave]

In front of a live audience. And he's gonna reveal something in front of Amin and David Sampson for the first time. You're gonna get a live reaction show today at 5:30. It is streaming on the LeBatard Show YouTube page. If you're watching us right now on YouTube, that is YouTube.com LeBatard Show. And it's also streaming live on Pablo Torre finds out YouTube. So that'll be live. That'll be today. And since it's in front of a live MIT Sloan audience, I assume you're going to hear gasp. Yeah. You're going to hear people going thank

[Dan Le Batard]

you to the Academy. Is there, is there anything more gutless than after this NBA season ends is when Adam Silver is then going to lay down whatever punishment on Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers that just coincidentally the season's over and now we could do the punishment.

[Dave]

Another interesting layer to this edition of Pablo Torre finds out is I've been told Adam Silver is also at MIT Sloan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Dave]

I'm not ruining.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's awesome. That's. That's a. That's a spicy me ball.

[Dave]

Who making the salad?

[Zas]

And it's before speaks.

[Dave]

Yes, you should lay out for Trisa, Dave.

[Zas]

I'm sorry, Dave.

[Dave]

I'm going to write that one down.

[Trista]

I'm sorry. I didn't say say now. Well, Tony's a little late there. He's all over.

[Tony]

A little late morning. I got to keep my eyes in two places. Chameleon.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you don't. You have to look forward. You don't get exactly right.

[Dave]

I can't even look at all agree it's Jeremy's fault. Yep. Go ahead, Trista.

[Trista]

I just wanted to say one way or the other.

[Dave]

Let's. Go ahead, Trista.

[Trista]

Listen to the Football America Free Agency primer with JD Bunkus. Carmen.

[Dave]

All right, Trista, go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Zas]

Anyway.

[Dave]

Shut up.

[Zas]

Has Adam Silver spoken at MIT yet? Is this, is this a setup for Adam to have to respond?

[Dave]

I think Adam has a important detail. A morning speaking engagement and then one, I think, later in the evening. So I do think Adam Silver's gonna be hanging around, but trust me, this word's gonna get back to him. I assure you that. Because this one, like I said, it promises to be explosive.

[Tony]

It feels like Pablo loves a good symposium.

[Dave]

He does. I can verify that.

[Trista]

Synonymous, right?

[Tony]

When you think of Pablo Torre, I think of symposium.

[Dave]

You had no idea. Like I've been. I've had the pleasure.

[Tony]

You got me on that one.

[Dave]

I've had the pleasure of going to an MIT Sloan before. And they're actually like, if you like analytics, it's a little dorky, but it's fun, right? And someone like Pablo, I guarantee you he is a total rock star. Like if you. Have you been to MIT Sloan?

[Zas]

I haven't yet. I want to go.

[Dave]

So MIT Sloan is basically like, oh my God, that's Bob Folgaris. Don't look at him. Like, that's exactly what MIT Sloan. Oh my God, that's RC Buford. Jesus Christ. Why did I wear this shirt around RC Buford? So I think Pablo is definitely awful.

[Trista]

No, I'm telling you, those clear frames

[Tony]

sounds like a dork fest.

[Trista]

Right?

[Dave]

Yeah, terrible.

[Trista]

Do you think that that's why. I don't. I don't know that I've ever been to a proper symposium. Ethan Strauss Cachet is the sort of sports fan, he would go to a sports fan symposium to learn up on cap implications and such.

[Jeremy]

That's right, I would.

[Dave]

Is that true?

[Trista]

Symposium.

[Jeremy]

Do you think that's why Pablo is comfortable abandoning his family?

[Trista]

Happy 6th birthday to my daughter, Violet.

[Jeremy]

What?

[Dave]

It's Tom Hammerstroke.

[Dan Le Batard]

I gotta tell you, like, if you're a journalist and if you're breaking stories, especially serious stories, breaking news like Pablo is, you know, you gotta. You gotta have some guts, I suppose, you know, but to me, like, if he's gonna possibly, like, if he's gonna say things either directed toward Adam Silver or in Adam Silver's like stratosphere that be in the NBA and Adam Silver is there. That takes some guts if you ask me.

[Dave]

Oh my God. Keith Law.

[Zas]

Keith Smith.

[Dan Le Batard]

So anyway, what time is that again today? 5:30.

[Dave]

You said 5:30 live on this YouTube page. So if you subscribe to either us or Pablo, why don't you subscribe to both? You'll get an alert once that goes live and I promise you this one's going to be very interesting. You keep asking how much more could he possibly have on this aspiration deal? He saved a pretty good nugget here for you guys and for the live audience over at mit. Slo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. All right.

[Trista]

Mike Ryan at a symposium. Look, it's Nosferatu. No, that's just Adam Silver.

[Dave]

You like that one?

[Dan Le Batard]

I do like that one.

[Trista]

That was a look.

[Dave]

Low hanging fruit sometimes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Low hanging fruits. Delicious.

[Zas]

Zaz doesn't know all of the other key people in analytics, Mike. To laugh at all of your deep cuts. He only knows the top of the top.

[Dave]

Drew Unga was deep.

[Zas]

It was.

[Dave]

Is he still doing it? I'm not even sure Drew's still doing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

So last night, Trista, last night was a big night in the NBA. All right, well, we can get to the feature game, which is the spurs and Pistons from last night. The spurs sweep the season series and it feels, it feels like the spurs are going to the championship. We'll get back to that. But the Lakers lost to the Nuggets last night. Did you see what happened in this Laker game, Trista?

[Zas]

Well, I saw that LeBron James injured his elbow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God, you gotta, like, you gotta be kidding me. So LeBron, last night, Nuggets won 120 to 113. LeBron, he had 16 points, eight assists, like, you know, average kind of game. He was 7 of 11 from the floor, something. He was bad, you know. But LeBron, last night, there's a play, it's, it's. With four minutes left in the fourth quarter. It's a four point game. LeBron drives to the basket, makes a difficult layup going up against Nikola Jokic, and presumed proceeds to fall to the ground. And if you look at the replay, I don't think Jokic even touched him. All right? At most, their bodies grazed. At most. And LeBron falls to the ground in a heap and is writhing in pain, shouting, my elbow, my elbow.

[Zas]

Did he just say my elbow or did he. Was there any other.

[Dan Le Batard]

He said f word. My elbow. My. He's in. I mean, you would think he's going to have to. He's going to have to retire from the pain that is taking place right now. Mike, they show the replay.

[Dave]

He's going to have to retire.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike, they show the replay this. Not only am I not sure that Jokic touched him, but he doesn't even know which elbow he hurt. First he's grabbing his right elbow and then he's grabbing his left because he realizes when he grabs the right elbow, he's got the sleeve on. So, like that's a protective sleeve. And then he grabs the left one, which is sleeveless. All right, so it's exposed. But you see in the replay, his elbow never even touches the ground. Matter of fact, Trissa, his arm lands on the leg of a cameraman. He never even hits the ground with his elbow. And he can't get up, he cannot stand. Because everybody knows when you hurt your elbow, your legs don't work.

[Zas]

I think he actually hurt himself. How often does he scream and writhe out in pains?

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't be serious. I mean, you're just not a serious person right now.

[Zas]

Some are saying Nikola Jokic is a dirty player. Yeah, I saw it online.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just. I don't know, maybe you saw it online.

[Jeremy]

Was it Markief Morris?

[Dave]

Hey, you keep your eyes forward.

[Tony]

Sorry. Was it Lou Dort?

[Zas]

Do not look back at me.

[Tony]

Did Lou Dort say that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, maybe it comes from. Because we've been so like, involved in hockey over the last few years and we know how tough these guys are. But how like Dave, how can anyone take serious LeBron hurt. Let's say he hurt his elbow, which we all know he didn't. But let's say he hurt his elbow. Why can't he stand? Why does that mean he has to lie on the ground?

[Trista]

It's because the climate now allows for this. It started with soccer and we all laughed at it for at least a couple of decades. And over the last, let's say, I don't know, decade, I guess, since Tom Brady hurt his knee, NFL QBs now do this sort of thing where we all have to. And now the fans are in on it too.

[Dan Le Batard]

We.

[Trista]

When you're at a football game, the reaction from the home crowd now requires when the quarterback gets hit and you can tell he didn't really get hit hard. All now the, the, the tens of thousands of home fans now have to pretend they're a part of the bit now with like, oh, come on, ref, throw the flag. That was clearly a late hit, everybody. And now it's reach basketball. It ain't good. It ain't good for anybody. I'm with you. As clearly LeBron was free, was faking it. But that's the world we live in.

[Zas]

Says like, let's be honest.

[Dan Le Batard]

You yourself, I'm always honest.

[Zas]

You yourself cannot get your ass off of the floor if you're laying down without pushing your elbow down to the ground. Can you use your core strength to get up on your opponent stand without using an arm?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, but, but there's.

[Zas]

I want to see it.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's then a point right now. His teammates come over to him to pick him up.

[Zas]

You can't pull him up. The elbow hurts when you pull it up.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're trying to pull him up from his right arm. The first both arms got hurt.

[Zas]

You just established that.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's like, oh, my elbow. I can't get up.

[Mike Ryan]

What the.

[Trista]

The thing that intrigues me about NBA guys when they wear the compression stuff. Yeah, but only on one leg. What gives there? Let's talk to the high end athletes in there. Tony, tell us about why does it. Why do. Why do your fellow High end athletes sometimes wear a compression thing only on the one leg. Doesn't that throw them off?

[Tony]

A four letter word called swag, Dave. You got one, you don't need two. You got one, you fit your favorite one. You like that. You like the compression shorts. You like the ones that go all the way down. You like the tights or do you like the mid ones to the calf or do you like the ones that are short? It's all swag preference. You'd know that.

[Trista]

Okay, I'll buy that. That's what I always have suspected, that it had no actual.

[Tony]

It does absolutely nothing.

[Trista]

No athletic advantage.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zero. Zero, nothing.

[Trista]

All right, that's what I thought.

[Dan Le Batard]

They are such a tough watch though, that Laker team. So Luka Doncic, then yesterday he picked up his 15th technical foul of the season, which means the next technical foul he will be suspended for a game. And then every other technical foul for the remainder of the game is another suspension. So Luca's going to miss some games over the rest of the way here

[Dave]

and people are upset at him. Dwayne, waiting. I saw this on ESPN. What does that McMahon. Luca is hurting this team by not getting back on defense and complaining on the other end.

[Dan Le Batard]

Remember, that was a thing with us and Wade through the last. You're right.

[Dave]

Yeah, that was always the D. Wade.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're right.

[Dave]

But at least D. Wade, like once he was on the ball, was a pretty solid defender.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Dave]

Was great at blocking shots, was great at chasing screens, and ultimately when he was dialed in, was a good defender. We're never going to get there with Luka. So on top of that, he's not showing effort and he's complaining about calls. But I do think it usually works for a superstar like Luka to be doing that. That's part of the game. That's part of why they're so good. That's part of why they get the calls. They robbed the refs the whole game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Luka felt that he was being treated unfairly.

[Zas]

I think so too.

[Dan Le Batard]

He believes you. Again, you are not a serious person. Luka believes he was being treated unfairly last night. Here he is trying to explain what happened with the technical foul.

[Dave]

What was the feedback from the referees during that play and did they explain like why they teed you up in that moment?

[Luka Doncic]

Yeah, just because I yelled it. I guess that's what he said. But I heard the other place saying the exact same sentence and then get attacked. And that's my problem. You know, I was trying not to talk at all. This is the first thing I said, no warning or nothing, but I heard three other places in this exit, same thing and nothing. So it's just. No. I don't know what to say.

[Dave]

Obviously you've. This is a 15th, but you've. In previous seasons you've gotten 15 and not got in the one game suspension that comes with 16. I guess what for you needs to happen just to avoid that or. Yeah, avoid it like you've done in previous seasons.

[Luka Doncic]

Don't get another tip

[Trista]

like you committing that.

[Jeremy]

You won't.

[Luka Doncic]

We'll see. Can't predict the future.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I could predict the future. He will pick up more technical fouls. They have 20 games left in the season. He's going to wind up getting suspended. But like, that explanation's rich to me because someone else said the exact same thing that I did and they didn't get a technical like Luca, do you want. Do you want to be treated the same as everyone else? Because that'll be an interesting world if you want to be treated the exact same as every player.

[Zas]

That's basically what Jeremy was trying to say yesterday about me. He was like, tristan gets the correct Dan. How come I don't get the correct Dan?

[Dave]

She's Luca. What are you.

[Jeremy]

I mean, probably Lou Dort.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one gets the correct Dan.

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[Dave]

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[Trista]

That's right.

[Dave]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Dave]

Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think you're big time? Are you gonna die big time?

[Zas]

That is.

[Dave]

On my infamous scale of 1 to 10, that's a.

[Trista]

That's a 7.6.

[Dan Le Batard]

Solid.

[Mike Ryan]

Good job.

[Dave]

That's a suey nominee right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Trista]

I feel bad for Larry Bird catching strays when. When Luca's name comes up it. Oh, I'm surprised Mike Ryan somehow avoided doing it with like. Well, that's just the way superstars are sometimes. They don't play defense. This. He keeps Larry Bird because he was a taller, high scoring white guy. That that's enough for people to just go like, yep, he's this generation's Larry Bird. Like, Larry Bird was a fine defender. He wasn't, you know, he wasn't locked down, shut him down whenever he wanted to, but he wasn't. Luca, who just doesn't. Who straight up doesn't try. That's. That's who my shout out goes to this morning. Larry Bird.

[Zas]

I don't think anyone ever compares Luca to Larry Bird. I think they compare him a lot more to James Harden.

[Jeremy]

I'd like to correct myself. I think.

[Trista]

Okay. Younger people.

[Dave]

Jeremy, I'm right. I'm writing that down.

[Jeremy]

Jeremy, no, you did not hold up the no to you.

[Trista]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, but you could have held it up there. I said specifically I was gonna.

[Zas]

Why are you talking like Zaz right now?

[Dave]

Lemon scented bathroom.

[Dan Le Batard]

Very influential.

[Dave]

That down too.

[Dan Le Batard]

So also last night, the San Antonio Spurs Trista. They beat the Detroit Pistons. They sweep the season series from Detroit.

[Dave]

All right, so as you know, I hopped into the association this week and the games have been interesting.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, when you say hopped in, like, did you order the league pass?

[Dave]

No, like Dave. Like Dave established last week that, you know, the NBA is a perfect sport to just hop in. I don't need to pay attention until after the Super Bowl. I jumped on aboard a moving train. I know all the storylines. I know all the teams that are good.

[Trista]

The players don't pay attention. Why would we?

[Dave]

Exactly. So, like, the one team that I was really interested in watching this week was, you know, I gotta see these Detroit Pistons that everybody tells me about. Bad week to watch the Pistons. I don't actually think they're good because I've just watched them.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're not good.

[Dave]

They're not a good team. Bad team. Hornets. Way better facts.

[Zas]

Yes, exactly. You're right on schedule. Yes. I have been going up against these Pistons and Cade Cunningham all year. Especially now we have a little controversy about the 65 game rule. And the MVP will shay get it. Can Jokic get it? And we're just going to gift it to Cade because he's eligible and he's the best player.

[Tony]

He's had a team, Trista. He's had a good season.

[Jeremy]

A good season.

[Zas]

That's not an MVP.

[Tony]

But then take care of the 65 game rule and outlaw. It's Jokic has one more game and then he's done.

[Jeremy]

Adam, he had a triple double last. Adam Silver needs to step in here. He's a nothing more than he even needs to step in on the aspiration Stuff. How about the terror they are right

[Dan Le Batard]

now with any of it?

[Tony]

How about the terrible.

[Jeremy]

This is a space where he needs to step in and say he needs to go to.

[Trista]

You know what?

[Jeremy]

You know what? 65 games. Not this year. We're gonna. We're gonna change the rule. We're gonna figure it out. But this year, look at these guys. Look who the MVP should be. Nikola Jokic for 40 games would be more valuable than what Cade is. And that's not even a knock on Cade. Look at what Nikola Jokic is doing. Look at what Shea, Gilgis Alexander is doing. And these guys missed it for injuries, not because they were load managing, not because they were sitting out national TV games, but because they were hurt. It's crazy to me that this is a situation where he needs to intervene.

[Zas]

I hate to play quiz show because I hate it when people quiz me because do you know how many MVP winners have been below the 65 game threshold in a full season?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow. I like that question.

[Jeremy]

I can think of one.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know the answer to it.

[Zas]

Who is that?

[Jeremy]

Bill?

[Trista]

I wish I could think about it, but I feel attacked.

[Zas]

That's the answer. It's only Bill Walton. So let's just let the voters decide. Jeremy, did you look this up before?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it's just something that I heard, like within the last couple of weeks by me, probably.

[Tony]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

Sund, you could have been sunned.

[Zas]

He's an alley oop listener.

[Jeremy]

Could have been.

[Dan Le Batard]

So last night San Antonio beats Detroit. They take both games this season.

[Dave]

San Antonio, that's a good.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's good team.

[Mike Ryan]

Good team.

[Dan Le Batard]

San Antonio is a good team. All right. Victor Wembanyama, absolutely impossible.

[Dave]

I like him. He's good.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think he's good?

[Dave]

I think he's good. He's tall.

[Dan Le Batard]

38 points and 16 rebounds last night. San Antonio, as far as the Western Conference goes, is two back in the loss column of Oklahoma City. So they're totally in play for number one overall. I got to tell you, if it's Oklahoma City and San Antonio in a Western Conference final, and mind you, San Antonio beat them four out of five times this year. So maybe this isn't exactly a hot take. San Antonio. I think they're winning the whole thing this year.

[Zas]

Trista, inject that Western Conference finals in my veins. I need it right now. I need it the first round. I need a second round. Just let them play 16 games and we'll just see how it shakes out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Says like, has that ever. Okay, so Wembanyama comes into the league with as much hype as anyone in the history league. Like, when we're talking about number one overall picks at the most type, we're talking about LeBron. We're talking about Wembanyama.

[Jeremy]

Zion.

[Dave]

Zion.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I know. Zion was huge hype. Was he on the level those guys

[Jeremy]

after he broke that shoe?

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, all right.

[Dave]

Anthony Bennett.

[Dan Le Batard]

So is there anybody else? Like, I mean, did Magic have the type of hype? But we're going back to 1979.

[Trista]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Because magic and Bird were a thing dating back to college.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. So Magic as well. And granted, Magic won in his rookie year because he had a. He had a cockamamie trade where he was drafted by a Laker team, number one overall, that was already a championship contender. And so they ended up winning the championship.

[Tony]

How'd they do that, by the way?

[Dan Le Batard]

It was some trade that was made. Obviously not good foresight by the team that made the trade with them. But putting Magic aside, because it's not exactly the same scenario, because the Lakers were really good when they drafted Magic Johnson in 79. When Benyama. If they win the championship this year or make it next year, but whatever, this only is third year in the league. If they win the championship this year, it's going to be an unprecedented fulfillment of. I guess, what's the word I'm looking for as far as expectations, expectation, or prophecy? Right, Prophecy. That makes it sound so much more dramatic. All right. It's a. It's a fulfillment of a prophecy.

[Dave]

Yeah. And you know what? It does? You know that photo of Steph Curry shooting over Wembanyama? I think in retrospect, we're going to look back at that photo of that gold medal game between the US And France and put that one singular image of Seth shooting over Wemby and be like, that's one of the greatest sports photos of all time. That's like Ali.

[Trista]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

It doesn't even look like a real human. Trista, Go ahead, Dave.

[Trista]

Trista. The thing that I was pushing back on this side.

[Zas]

Technical.

[Dave]

Jeremy.

[Tony]

Jeremy, what do you.

[Dave]

Jeremy, Honestly, Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

No idea. What would you do? We're going to fax it out.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Keep talking about props.

[Dave]

Trisha, you were saying, God, did you

[Zas]

see that block that led to the transition dunk from Wembanyama last night?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to say yes, but.

[Zas]

So I think it was K tried to lob to and Isaiah Stewart tried to get Wemby out of the way. The block was absolutely insane that he got that. And then he beat everyone Back down the floor and had a monstrous dunk. It's everywhere on threads.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Zas]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Well said. I think you guys are forgetting a very big piece of the Western Conference, which is a Denver Nuggets team that has a loaf of bread that is the mvp, what three of the last five seasons who has better numbers than should be any other MVP season he had previously. And he still has to say a little something in the Western.

[Jeremy]

The idea that Wemby would have to go through potentially Jokic and then the Thunder just to get to the finals like that, that part would be amazing. Especially if somehow the seven seat, like if they end up as a two seed. If somehow the seven seed, I mean

[Dan Le Batard]

the first round they'd have to go do Grayson Allen.

[Jeremy]

But. But if as say the seven seed somehow ends up being like the warriors or something, where he has to go through a legend off have to go

[Dan Le Batard]

through a push Jim scheme playing against

[Jeremy]

Steph Curry, like it would be so, so cool to see that type of path for a guy like Wemby to ultimately fulfill the prophecy.

[Dan Le Batard]

LeBron. LeBron didn't win a championship till his seventh year. And it wasn't with the team that drafted him number one overall for Wembanyama. If they wit like they're a championship contender right now, they could totally win the whole thing. If they win right now, in his third year, he joins a team that was obviously dog all right. Like, like they earned that number one overall pick. They had several years. I think they missed the playoffs five or six years in a row. They were terrible. And in year three with this guy who was hyped unlike almost any other player to win the championship in his third year. That's. We've never seen anything like that.

[Zas]

To. To push back on Jeremy, the Heat believer that doesn't want a team to tank. You're also talking about Wemby. That was a massive, egregious tank. And then Tank again. Steph Castle, rookie of the year, Tank again. Dylan Harper, boom, boom, boom, contender. That's how it's done.

[Dave]

You hearing this, Jeremy? That that is how it's done. You trust a good front office to rebuild when you're in transition.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. And this one has like over and over again. And by the way, they're doing it again right now. They have Khalil Ware who was a first round pick who set in records last night. They have the rookie in the NBA whose name starts with a K, who leads all rookies who've played at least 30 games in three point field goal Percentage. That's Casparus Yakachonas, not con Knipple. He's shooting like 44 from 3. He's a 19 year old point guard.

[Dave]

You can't be serious. You cannot be serious. You cannot compare your rebuild to San Antonio. Okay? You cannot.

[Jeremy]

No, I'm not comparing it to San Antonio's. But it took San Antonio a lot

[Trista]

longer than

[Jeremy]

the three ball better.

[Dan Le Batard]

San Antonio may win the title

[Jeremy]

better. He's shooting the three ball better. That's just a fact.

[Dave]

Hmm. I mean you're Heat maga.

[Trista]

You watch your mouth.

[Dave]

You just refuse to pituitary at any corner. No, but I just one say like, yeah, you know what? That other team probably had the right idea.

[Jeremy]

I just want to understand. I genuinely want to understand because I.

[Dave]

I have watched manufacturing was coming back. It didn't.

[Jeremy]

I have watched this franchise for, for two decades here go from winning a championship to a few transient years where they were still right around the playoffs. The only season where they weren't was because somebody got hurt. They drafted a pretty terrible player, number two overall. They then went back to the finals over. It was bucket getter but not a good player.

[Tony]

Whoa.

[Jeremy]

Then they went four straight years to the finals with a totally remade roster. Then they were somewhat mediocre, but they were living right around the playoffs. They could be that and then remade their roster and got back to the finals two out of five years. And now they're in another transient period where they're going to be a playoff team. You would rather be bad for a decade for the hope of being as good as the Heat are now?

[Dave]

No, I'd rather be bad.

[Jeremy]

It just doesn't make any sense.

[Dave]

I'd rather be bad for three years and play in for three. I'd rather be bad for us year than playing for this year when they've got no shot.

[Jeremy]

I genuinely want to understand this. You'd rather be bad this year? Hold on. You'd rather be bad for three years for the hopes of remaking your roster to be a championship contender?

[Dave]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

Then be at the edge of the playoffs with a chance to watch your team win on any given night and still remake your roster to be a championship contender? Because for 20 years that's what the Heat have been doing. So both they have transient years, but those transient years are still competitive. So I don't really understand.

[Dave]

So here's where you're at. Both those teams, the team trying to lose in the Miami Heat, which on a given night you pay your money to see a ticket and hey, they're not trying to lose. I actually see the superstars playing all that. Guess what? They both got the same amount of chance of winning the NBA title. Zip0. Stingy with De Niro.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Dave]

They're not winning. So I'd rather be the San Antonio spurs. With good ownership, a good front office. I trust them to rebuild. And guess what? They did. We're talking about them as a potential champion. I'm not even saying be bad for three years like San Antonio. I'm saying be bad just this year. Yeah, and give this front office an opportunity.

[Zas]

Might light your wrist, but that's about it.

[Tony]

Yeah, might IC you, but that's about it.

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug. Trista, what happened with Russell Westbrook last night?

[Zas]

Russell Westbrook has had enough. He has come for the media, Zaz and went on a complete diatribe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do they have the worst record in the league?

[Zas]

Sacramento they have the worst record in the league.

[Trista]

Okay.

[Zas]

And Russell Westbrook doesn't think that the criticism coming from the bloggers and the vloggers and the inside Sacramento Kings reporters and radio hosts, he decided to take to the podium and go directly out.

[Dan Le Batard]

How can. How can he.

[Trista]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Dan Le Batard]

The criticism is unfair.

[Zas]

He says, do you know me? Do you know who I am? To say what my intention is? The this was six minutes that we've cut down Zaz that I feel like is electric content. And I want to get you guys thoughts in terms of like just the dynamic between Russ and reporters and what reporters can and cannot say.

[Jeremy]

Look, I'm a, I'm a ball off me coach type of guy. Look, normally I'll take full responsibility. That was on gq.

[Dave]

What the yo, yo, yo. I thought Dave was just doing the Jay Z thing that we were doing.

[Jeremy]

No, that yo, yo, yo was fully on gq.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, let me hear, let me hear. Russell Westbrook last night. Let's get some of this.

[Russell Westbrook]

You guys are quiet today, but you guys have a lot of comments when the game's going on after the game, what we doing, what we should be doing, how we should be doing it. Yeah, but that's not. I've seen things you said. It's not just about our office and our defense and what our record is. We've been the worst record for a long time now. What I don't like is that I've been the league a long time and I've been around a lot of different organizations, media, beat writers and we have a lot of young guys on this team, a lot of guys that don't know what's happening or what's around, whether it's from, from the coaching, from the players. You guys job is to talk about the game, what's happening in the game, not stir up a bunch of, I don't want to cuss here because I want to get fine, but stir up a bunch of stuff that it's not accurate. You guys are making false comments about our team and what we're doing here and I don't appreciate that. So my, my action that you respect what we do and we respect what you do.

[Dan Le Batard]

So it sounds like he's, by the way, they lost the Pelicans last night. It sounds like he's saying that the media or some people have been maybe saying things are happening here in the locker room. This guy said this according to anonymous source and all that. And so he's upset about that. But stop telling the media what their job is like. Stop pointing the figure. Your job is do this now. Stop telling other people what their job is. You don't 99% of professional athletes have no idea what the media's job actually is.

[Zas]

And I think the thing that kind of like trips me out is it is somebody's job that talks on a mic to speculate about what could be possibly going through your mind when you're doing the things that you're doing. You're not going to tell us Russell Westbrook. So all I can do is just postulate.

[Dave]

Also, I've been around a lot of teams. Isn't the flex that you think it is?

[Dan Le Batard]

Russ Correct.

[Dave]

And who could have seen this coming? Russell Westbrook in March complaining at the press in Sacramento as if things aren't going great. I mean I, it boggles the mind how this didn't work out.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean they're, they're 14 and 50 is does he think it's unfair that the media is being negative surrounding his team?

[Zas]

He even said that five minute clip. And I've been around Sacramento a long time. I've been on weekly for five years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Funny. We got, we got here this morning. Trista says to me, she goes, did you see Russell Westbrook last night? I go, trista, that clip was six minutes. I did not have time for that.

[Zas]

I watched every second and I know the members of those. The media that he's talking about specifically.

[Tony]

Yes, Tony, that's the feeling that I had when I saw the Skip Bayless and his wife thing about Iran where

[Dan Le Batard]

I was, oh, you don't want to hear that thought, son. Iran.

[Trista]

Six minutes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was like, come on. I think I'm good.

[Jeremy]

I don't know. My wife tells me six minutes is a really long time.

[Zas]

That's why you're taking her

[Dave]

for me for the last few years. Hey, did you see what Russell Westbrook did last night? The answer has been a firm no for, like, a good five years running.

[Zas]

Yeah. I think the thing, though, that I was, like, intrigued about is he said that the media members, some of the media members in Sacramento were anticipating some huge year, some big year out of Sacramento. And I think that part is somewhat true. Like, there's a little dilutive quality to being in a market that's been this bad for this long and had the Beam team year. Yeah, they've got DeRozan, they've got Zach Levine, they've got Sabonis, they've got Malik Monk, who they couldn't ship off to try to get Kaminga. And they're like, we should be better than 14 wins.

[Dave]

Okay, so this isn't a hockey town anymore, at least for this lull here as everybody gets healthy.

[Dan Le Batard]

But we'll be a hockey town again if we speaker one.

[Trista]

Right.

[Dave]

But the last time I was paying attention to the association, the light, the beam here, Sacramento had fixed it. They made all the right moves, and it finally came together. That's a good basketball town. When that team is humming and they look like they were set, what happened?

[Zas]

A lot of things, I think, like, the defense was never good. Mike Brown had this. This team, like, humming offensively. And then he tried to tweak a bunch of things and get them to be more of a defensive first team. Keegan Murray struck lightning in a bottle, and then he had a down year. I think there was some issues between Dear and Fox, maybe, and Sabonis. Sabonis didn't like Mike. Mike Brown got fired after his extension. And so I think that has caused even more cultural chaos internally. And then you had to ship Dear and Fox for Zach Levine.

[Trista]

You know, I think what really is on the short list of reasons why the Sacramento rise fell so quickly is because it was Sacramento. And I am not denouncing Sacramento. I've been there. Surprisingly fun little town for a night or two as we go into NFL free agency and the trade deadline with the NHL. And like we talked about earlier, one guy got traded to Buffalo and said, I don't want to go to Buffalo. I want to go to the west coast somewhere warm. Where would you guys. I think that's a factor, and we get down on that. Like, what's. What's the problem? Russell Westbrook, like, maybe he doesn't want to be in Sacramento. Where would you go? Were you a free agent? Not for Situ. Like, well, this team seems like it's a player away from winning the title. For more human considerations, you can include the uniform and quality of the arena and all that. Where would you go? I start with you, Trista.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, so this is based on, like, all the extracurriculars? Not. Not necessarily. Hey, I think we have a good chance to win.

[Trista]

I think that, you know, I think it.

[Mike Ryan]

It.

[Trista]

We're.

[Dave]

We're.

[Trista]

I think we should involve that. You, like, ownership or. Or. Or. Or something along those lines. I don't think we. We should completely erase that. But I also don't think it just turns it into what team seems the closest to winning the title? Conversation. If you turn it into. Mike Evans should go to Buffalo because, man, if you give him to Josh Allen with DJ Moore, man, they're the best team in the afc. I don't mean from that perspective, just more in the. In the global sense. Where would you want to go? What sports town would you want to reside in?

[Zas]

Sports town is to.

[Dave]

Are you giving US Football America leftovers?

[Trista]

Yeah, that's right.

[Dave]

That's exactly right.

[Trista]

It's a fun conversation. That's. That's exactly right.

[Dan Le Batard]

You heated a turd.

[Trista]

You got it, fella.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Dave]

Trust it. Go ahead.

[Zas]

Sorry, I didn't mean to jump on that. I think maybe LA for Intuit Dome and the. Just the beautiful, like, weather and being on the West Coast. The Intuit west coast bias. Yeah. Or Phoenix. Great roads in Phoenix and a pretty decent arena.

[Dan Le Batard]

Great roads. What do you mean, great roads?

[Zas]

Very smooth roads. Always well kept.

[Mike Ryan]

So you're.

[Tony]

You're like, I'm a free agent and what I'm really digging is Phoenix

[Trista]

Road.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know about them good roads.

[Dave]

You know about that Biden infrastructure bill, that.

[Trista]

That's the reason at the introductory.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you never seen the roads in Phoenix?

[Tony]

They're incredible.

[Dave]

It benefited.

[Trista]

Redstone here is second to none of

[Dan Le Batard]

the asphalt.

[Trista]

Tony, where you landed?

[Tony]

I'm not going anywhere, baby. Right here. I'm going right here. I'm going to get a nice big house in Pine Crest, in Gables by the sea. I'm Going to drive my bike up, down cold. Cutler. I'm going to get. Right here, keep it going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Beautiful right here.

[Tony]

I don't need to go anywhere.

[Dave]

It's Miami easily. It's Miami or la. Because the weather, the, the lack of media scripture, not la. No.

[Zas]

Okay, well, media scrutiny is tough in L. A though.

[Dave]

Yeah, well, I guess ideologically Sadano there.

[Tony]

Sedano's going to say something bad about me.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one's afraid of what Sedan.

[Zas]

How are the roads, Roads in L. A and in Miami? Rough like always. Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

But you know about that smog?

[Zas]

I know about it. Do you know about geckos in mosaic form on the freeway walls? Do you know how that impacts your state of mind?

[Dan Le Batard]

Says, I mean, half those words you just said? I don't know what they mean.

[Dave]

You know about that.

[Trista]

We don't have smog in la.

[Dave]

How do you have a river?

[Trista]

We don't have that. And we don't have. We don't have sweltering heat like you do in Miami either.

[Dave]

Let me tell you something. If the Terminator can drive a 16 wheeler through it, it's not a river.

[Trista]

Touche. Also, that's where the, the iconic race in Greece takes place. Also the LA river dried out. Mike Ryan is there. Would you consider legitimately. Because I, I would and you can laugh if you want to, but it would be a consideration. What is the quality of the uniform where I. That, that I will adore.

[Dave]

Right. So I would certainly prioritize that. But I think like, what's more, are we talking since this is a football America turd that we're reheating, we're talking about football here.

[Trista]

No, let's do an NBA friend.

[Dave]

Well, if it's so, if it's too much to talk about the, our most

[Trista]

beloved sport, go with NBA instead.

[Dave]

I do think tradition, market, fan base, that, that would matter to me. Like, I, I know they're not a great model franchise right now, but it seems cool being a Dallas Cowboy. And you're welcome, like, if you're cut that way and you like having the media scrutiny, America's team. I think it's cool. Like, I think it's cool being a Laker. I think it's cool playing in Madison Square Garden. I think those would be really cool experiences. Like, like, you know, Josh Hart, tremendous player. Josh Hart's probably like, I can't believe my luck. I, I could, I've been other places. I could have been in New Orleans right now, but instead I'm, I'm doing the same stuff but I'm doing it here in Madison Square Garden and I become a cult hero. I, I would kind of prioritize in the NHL. Like, I think I want to be a Maple Leaf. I think I want to be a hab. I, I, I, I think that those legacy franchises and the weight of those expectations and the fan bases around them are actually appealing. But I like the pressure, Jack, you could make right.

[Trista]

I hear you. Like, for instance, if you were sent to New York, some percentage of people would say, put me on the Metropolitans, because less pressure if I'm on the Yanks. If I'm wearing those pinstripes, I better win or I'm going to get booed and all of that. Zaslo, how say you? Where are you headed?

[Dan Le Batard]

I would, I think it'd be New York. Yeah, New York.

[Trista]

You guys are a bunch of traders.

[Dan Le Batard]

New York.

[Jeremy]

This Miami show this week has been ridiculous. First Charlotte Hornet praise as they play.

[Dave]

I would rather be a Hornet than a Heat.

[Trista]

I'm gonna kill you.

[Jeremy]

I'm gonna kill you.