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Roy
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Billy Gill
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.
Stugatz
Why are you listening to this show?
Billy Gill
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lerd podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Stugatz
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Billy Gill
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual liar.
Mike Ryan
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Stugatz
Game time. If you were a thief and I told you that you lived very close to where Joe Burrow was and the television suggested that he was out of at a game against the Dallas Cowboys, that seems like a pretty good house to rob. I don't know if he's always got security around his house, but he should. If you've recently read reports that he bought a $3 million Batmobile, that seems like a pretty good house to rob. If you know that he's in Dallas and not home. I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
Dan Le Batard
Well, it has been. That's why this is a story making headlines. You make it seem like it's a coincidence that A burglar happened to be near Joe Burrow's house. But the NFL and NBA PA have apparently sent out memos to players over the last few months about a string of high profile burglaries that have happened while players are at games.
Billy Gill
It just happened to Kelce and Patrick Mahomes, I believe.
Dan Le Batard
Exactly.
Stugatz
If you guys can read about Anton Jameson. I remember talking to him many years ago about his security system at home and how often he would circle his neighborhood to make sure he was not being followed. Because yeah, if people know you have money and know where you are at all times, there are ways to take your money. But what, what are the details on Joe Burrow? Like what, what was stolen from, from his home? Because the other thing is, right single athletes, if, if you're not married and there's not family, you're a single person and you're very wealthy, you're more likely to have an empty home, are you not?
Jessica
It wasn't empty. There was a swimsuit model, an employee.
Roy
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Also, like, that's the way I always imagine.
Dan Le Batard
If you are married, wouldn't your partner be at the. That you're playing in any way? So I don't, I don't understand.
Jessica
You're just reckless.
Stugatz
I didn't assume that Joe Burrow goes.
Dan Le Batard
To work and his hypothetical wife's like, I'm going to stay home. Wait, I'll stay home and watch the house.
Stugatz
I'm, I'm reckless by assuming that Joe Burrow doesn't have a swimsuit model at home. That's what you're saying.
Dan Le Batard
No, I'm reckless for saying that a married person, their spouse would stay home while they're playing.
Stugatz
I'm saying, I'm talking about just family in general. There is the pot. There is more likely than a single. Am I wrong about that? There might be family at home more likely than if there were a single person.
Billy Gill
It is okay for Dan to think that when Joe Burrow leaves the home, he's leaving his home empty. It's okay. Like, I'm with you on that. Yes, he's not married.
Jessica
I mean, what is the relevance of being married and leaving your home solo?
Dan Le Batard
I was. David, I don't understand the distinction. Like, it's very well documented that like family members go to football games.
Stugatz
I just assume that if a family lived in a home or a single person lived in a home, just probability by the number who live in the home, it's more likely that someone will be there. If I'm choosing a home that has nine people in it than if it has one person in it.
Dan Le Batard
Well, now you're saying nine people.
Stugatz
I'm just saying I'm making it a family. I'm making it a family.
Roy
The whole family's going down.
Stugatz
Have you heard of living girlfriends?
Dan Le Batard
Now we're talking about. Kirkpatrick's family was always at the game.
Stugatz
We're not talking about Philip Rivers.
Dan Le Batard
We're talking about maybe a wife and two kids.
Stugatz
I'm not even gonna go Hispanic stereotype. I was actually doing Manny Ramirez in my neighborhood. He had nine people there.
Roy
I think that there is more off. There's less times that Joe Burrow home alone than you'd expect.
Stugatz
Well, clearly, there was a swimsuit model there. I guess I'm supposed to be surprised there was only one.
Roy
Well, no, that's an employee of his.
Jessica
So that's the other little nugget about this, that it wasn't family or a girlfriend, apparently. And we need to get some better info because I love to recklessly speculate about this situation, but I won't. A swimsuit model, not a girlfriend, not a family member, but in his home during a game. Do we have a thought? Was she hired to do that? Is she being paid? And if she's being paid to do what exactly?
Stugatz
You have a lot of questions. I just want to know why his house was burgled, how it was burgled, and how many other burglaries. Burglaries there are happening.
Billy Gill
Potential inside job. What do you think?
Jessica
I'm just saying that Joe Burrow is not aware of what was stolen yet, so he couldn't even tell us because he had to go home first and take a look. Why couldn't he call the swimsuit model and say, can we FaceTime?
Dan Le Batard
Apparently, she called 911 and.
Roy
No, she called her mom. Her mom called 911?
Dan Le Batard
That's right. She called her mom. I did read that.
Billy Gill
I feel like I get into her.
Dan Le Batard
If you're. If you're not sure if you're being robbed, you probably would call someone first and be like, should I call 911? Personally, I would just call 911 immediately, but I could see being like, I don't know what to do. Maybe I'm hearing things. Can you talk me through this?
Jessica
Actually, what I read is that there was broken glass.
Dan Le Batard
Yes. A shattered window.
Jessica
That's 911 time, not mommy time.
Stugatz
Can you guys tell me why it is that Jessica is the only one amongst us watching Hard Knocks? I remember a time, a glorious time in the history of Hard Knocks, where football fans were so enthusiastic about getting just a little bit of access that it would be operatic when Hard Knocks would arrive with your team. Teams would object. I don't want my privacy invaded like that. And football would grow, giving you a really packaged product about the insides of your team. None of the teams wanted to do it. Fans love the access of it. Why is Jessica the only one around here who cares at all about watching? What would I'd assume would be interesting? Hard Knocks.
Billy Gill
I could only speak for myself, of course, but Hard Knocks was something that got me excited for the football season. Once I'm inside the football season, I don't need Hard Knocks anymore. I'm already excited. Like, football's here. I'm in the midst of it. I'm in the middle of it. And so I think Hard Knocks, they're doing too many, to be honest.
Roy
It's also. Yeah, it's the third Hard Knock since, like, June.
Billy Gill
Right.
Roy
And our viewing habits have changed. Like, I'll watch Hard Knocks when I can watch, like, four of them back.
Dan Le Batard
You guys are wrong. It's because the Steelers are in it and they're winning a lot of games. That's the only reason I'm watching it. And it's awesome. Tomlin looks great. The team is fun. I'm enjoying every second of it. It has been delightful last two episodes. And you know who hasn't been in it? The Ravens have barely been in the season because they were on a bye week and then they played the Eagles the first week. So there wasn't a lot because it wasn't a divisional game. So I have to watch the Raven. I'm just watching Steelers and I'm injecting it straight into my veins every Tuesday night.
Jessica
What is the turnaround? The editing time? Because this is pretty different than the franchise they did with baseball. Are they filming and then releasing within a week?
Dan Le Batard
Within a day. The Monday night game was part of this week's episode. The Bengals Cowboys game.
Jessica
They must be working three shifts.
Stugatz
Well, what they're doing is really ambitious in the content age, as everyone has seen what access gets you nowadays. The fact that they're mass producing Hard Knocks while Bryant Gumbel goes off the air after 29 years. A suspense suspicious number. If he was getting his own way. I don't think that 29 years is the way that Bryant Gumbel's career should end. I think it should get.
Billy Gill
He should get not around number.
Stugatz
Should get the 30 that he might probably want as opposed to the 29. But costs are being cut everywhere except around football. That business is booming everywhere. And the content football business, whether Stugach, you're in on Hard Knocks or not. A winner with the mythology coach who has 18 straight winning seasons and none of us understand how he's winning with. With the discard that Sean Payton couldn't do anything with in Denver and didn't have a quarterback last year. And so how did he fix it? He went and got two and now he never loses. And he's a leader of men. But I don't trust him to win in the playoffs because I don't think his team is quite good enough, even though his defense clearly is. His defense is clearly good enough for Jessica to be eating that up on Hard Knocks because she's getting what is close to the most unprecedented inside access to Steelers football you've ever had. Correct.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, I just. I can't believe the Steeler. There were videos where it did not look like Mike Tomlin wanted to be a part of it. He was like, get this mic off me. Like behind the scenes. But he's doing the interviews and he's sitting down and talking to the cameras. Like, I think maybe secretly deep down he likes it. But yeah, it is. It is strange to see the Steelers on Hard Knocks because they are a team that you would never, ever, ever expect to be on training camp. Hard Knocks because they always are in the playoffs and they're always winning games and they're a team that like the Giants, they don't want the cameras in the building. Now, the Giants eventually relented with their off season Hard Knocks season, which I think there's been some criticisms of now, especially the way their season has gone. But I actually really like that show too. The only Hard Knocks I haven't liked this year is the Bears one because it was so boring. It was just dry and just. There was nothing.
Stugatz
No one is consuming Hard Knocks around here like you are.
Dan Le Batard
That's true. He got me with the beard for a minute. I was like, he's going to make it through the season because of the rebrand. I was wrong. Without the beard, I don't think he even makes it to week four. I think the beard got him to Thanksgiving, but I did. I thought the beard would get him to January.
Roy
I didn't.
Stugatz
I want to play again today. The game that we started yesterday with. Is he human? But I also want to ask questions of a colleague here because I don't know if some of us know something about Roy that seems to really delight Billy. I Don't know if the rest of us. I don't know what you guys imagine when Roy goes on vacation. I told Roy, I'm like, it's an odd time to go on vacation in December. And he's like, yes, it's part of Princess Claire's birthday week celebration. And then I learned something that I did not know and I did not have on my bingo card. As someone who thought he knew Roy, Billy is delighted to learn that Roy is a big cruise guy.
Roy
Big cruise guy. Roy, get out of here.
Jessica
Yeah, the three dayer.
Mike Ryan
It was from Thursday to Monday morning.
Roy
Longer one. That's fun. I came in and there was like Roy was on vacation. Like he was. Cause like scheduling here, like sometimes I don't see people for like two weeks and I just assume it was the scheduling. So I didn't know where Roy was. So Roy was like, I was on vacation. I was on a cruise. And I was like, oh, cool. Like awesome. Where'd you go? He goes, I don't know. And I'm like, how is that even possible? He's like, got on the boat. They told me to go to the boat. I got in the boat, rode the boat around. I don't know where we got off. Well, now Roy said boat.
Mike Ryan
Well, it's a changeable.
Jessica
No, no.
Mike Ryan
What do you know?
Jessica
Words boat and ship are two different words.
Mike Ryan
I. Fine, fine. Vessel. How about that?
Stugatz
Is that better?
Roy
Well, I was excited because the happiest I've ever seen Roy was when we were in the Bahamas together. When we went there, there was like a, you know, a 790 event in. @ the Atlantis in the Bahamas. And me and Roy were room.
Billy Gill
Yes.
Roy
Yeah. So we were there. It's the only time I've ever seen Roy wearing shorts.
Billy Gill
We went on the Lazy river together.
Roy
We went on the Lazy river with Roy.
Billy Gill
Loved it. He was so good on the Lazy River. No one lets the Lazy river take you with a Lazy River. Tastier better than Roy. Yeah, I mean it's fantastic.
Roy
Then we had like a weird situation where we were like. There was like the COVID or whatever, like the VIP section. And that's where we saw. Who is that we saw there? The. From the Falcons.
Mike Ryan
Julio Jones.
Roy
Julio Jones there?
Billy Gill
Yes. I was spying on him.
Roy
Yeah, we were spying on Julio Jones. He just got injured. It was a really strange. Honestly like 24 hours because me and Roy were excluded from the trip. But then we were brought along. So we flew out and then we flew back out the next day. We were in a room. We Shared the room together. We weren't supposed to be in the COVID but it was one of those things of act like you belong. And we had like a key. Then we just flashed them someone else's room key. But that's not how you're supposed to get in there. It's like a private situation. So then Roy got caught because he didn't play it cool enough. And then whereas like this whole hubbub that was caused and it became a principal thing, so Dan had to add Roy to Dan's room at a cost. And by the way, there was like two hours of sunlight left. So I don't think Roy ever ended up going to the COVID but it was just became a thing with a security guard not letting Roy in. It was a whole thing. The point is, it's the happiest I've ever seen Roy. And I saw him in shorts, so I figured Cruise Roy was the same thing. So I was asking all these great details of like, where'd you go? How was it? How was the cruise? How'd you go? Who'd you go with? He's like, I don't know for everything. He didn't know anything about this cruise.
Jessica
About the drink package?
Mike Ryan
No, dank it, I'm dry right now. So no drink package from.
Jessica
Thank you.
Stugatz
That's a harder way to do the cruise.
Mike Ryan
It sure is.
Roy
It's also rough waters now. A December cruise in the Caribbean is not fun.
Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah, it was very choppy. Very choppy. The boat was definitely rocking.
Roy
You should have come to me before Claire was born. I could have told you when to have her be born and then you know when to do the birthday cruise.
Mike Ryan
I wish I did. I wish I did.
Jessica
Like right before. Yeah, like 10 seconds.
Roy
No, you're like, no nine month notice. Like, not a good time.
Stugatz
What do you guys imagine? Cruise ship Roy is. Is he like. Is he playing any of the games? Is he.
Billy Gill
Well, he's not drinking, so that's a bad start.
Stugatz
Is he gambling? Is he doing the buffet? Is he hitting the buffet extra hard? Like, what do you. Is he. Is he whirlpooling it? Like, what are you imagining? Cruise ship Roy is.
Roy
Well, here's the problem. We can only imagine, right? Because, like, we've gotten to the point that he wants to give us so few details. He won't even tell us where the cruise went and pretends as though he doesn't know where the.
Stugatz
Oh, I don't think he knows. I think he never got off the boat. He wasn't that Interested in whatever it was. Eight hours in the Bahamas and he's like, I. I just stayed on the ship.
Billy Gill
I think when you go on a cruise, the cruise ship is your destination. I mean, I never get off the cruise ship.
Roy
No there's ever. Roy, did you get off the cruise ship?
Mike Ryan
I did, apparently. Yeah. It was a city called Labadee.
Roy
Haiti. You went to Haiti?
Mike Ryan
Okay, well, how about that?
Roy
Labadee? Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Okay. We went to Haiti.
Stugatz
No idea where.
Billy Gill
You don't know where you're going.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I had a passport. Yeah, I had. No, listen, my family booked a trip and I walked on the boat. That's pretty much it.
Stugatz
So you followed. All you did was follow. Your vacation was to follow your wife and child to parts unknown on a ship you're still calling a boat.
Mike Ryan
That's right.
Stugatz
You know nothing about what you just did. You went and saw the world and. No. And returned with no knowledge.
Mike Ryan
That's right. That's exactly what I was.
Roy
Well, no, he could tell us how great a place of the world was. We're like, what place? It was like, I don't know, a place my ship took me. What if you were taken? You had one call, you call me, you're like, billy, I've been taken. Come find me. I'm like, where are you? You're like, cruise ship.
Billy Gill
You have him using his call on you.
Roy
I could find him.
Jessica
Drop a pin. It's not hard.
Dan Le Batard
He found the cruise itinerary.
Roy
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
Looks like a nice four day. One day at sea, one day at Labadee, and then one day at sea. And then you come back, right?
Mike Ryan
Yes, that's. That's what happened. Yeah.
Billy Gill
Wow. Little shuffleboard.
Mike Ryan
You know about this more than I do.
Dan Le Batard
Royal Caribbean.
Stugatz
Can you give me some information on some of the activities that Roy did.
Dan Le Batard
Or didn't partake in? Did you have a hat with like a solo umbrella just for your head on top?
Mike Ryan
No, I did see a captain's hat in the. In the gift shop that I wanted to get, but. And he didn't want me to buy himself.
Dan Le Batard
Aw.
Stugatz
Well. And that's trip is you saw a hat. That's it. The highlight of Roy's trip is he saw a hat he was not allowed to buy. He looked at it with great longing. And then he went and had a sad piece of cruise ship pizza.
Jessica
Nighttime events. There's entertainment every night.
Roy
He wasn't drinking.
Stugatz
He did none of it.
Roy
You didn't go to his shows?
Dan Le Batard
Roy was the entertainer.
Stugatz
Roy, what were you doing on the.
Dan Le Batard
Did you host a Live podcast for everyone to talk about the Panthers having a bad time.
Mike Ryan
That would have been awesome. But I did not know.
Dan Le Batard
Did dork go?
Mike Ryan
No, he did not. He was. He was working.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, cruise with you.
Mike Ryan
No.
Jessica
This sounds terrible.
Mike Ryan
Well, it wasn't terrible. I mean, I spent a majority of the time sitting on the balcony watching water.
Roy
Oh, you had a balcony. All right. Okay.
Mike Ryan
It was very relaxing.
Roy
Did you get one of the, like, the animals made out of the towel or whatever?
Mike Ryan
Yes, I did.
Dan Le Batard
What was it?
Mike Ryan
I didn't really look at it. Claire had it most of the time, but I didn't really look at it.
Jessica
Like an elephant.
Stugatz
No, no.
Mike Ryan
It may have been a rabbit. Possible.
Dan Le Batard
Listen, how do you not remember it was.
Roy
Did you get hit in the head?
Mike Ryan
Because I'm old. That's why I'm getting old. I'm starting to forget stuff.
Roy
I'm not that old.
Mike Ryan
I'm not that young.
Stugatz
That's not true, Roy. It is breathtaking that you just returned from a vacation from which you have no remembered details.
Dan Le Batard
None of you were sober the whole time.
Stugatz
I don't know what city you went to. You don't know. You just saw vast, sprawling ocean which looks. Which looks the same in every direction.
Billy Gill
Very peaceful, though.
Roy
Very peaceful. I believe that I have track down the ship that he was on because I found a ship with this itinerary. Did you go on the flow rider on the back of the ship?
Mike Ryan
No.
Roy
The simulated, like, surfing thing? You didn't do that?
Mike Ryan
No, I did not.
Roy
Okay. Did you go to Splashway Bay?
Mike Ryan
Claire went to Splashway.
Roy
Okay, great. Did you do the rock wall?
Mike Ryan
No, Anita did the rock wall.
Roy
Okay. Did you. Did you watch. You didn't watch Grease, obviously, which is performed on the ship?
Mike Ryan
Absolutely.
Billy Gill
Did you do anything?
Dan Le Batard
What did you do while they were doing this?
Mike Ryan
I was watching Claire to make sure she didn't get kidnapped. That's one good dad.
Roy
They can only take you so many places in the middle of the ocean.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that's true. And in the buffet.
Dan Le Batard
All right.
Stugatz
Did you overeat?
Mike Ryan
I did.
Roy
Did you go to the casino?
Stugatz
Put it on the pole. Please stop by it.
Mike Ryan
I didn't play.
Stugatz
You walked through at Lebatard show. Cause I lost. Do you overeat on the cruise ship buffet? Does everyone overeat on the cruise ship buffet? What you've just described, Roy, is you go from the furnace of whatever it is that working for this place has been. And you go toward the ocean and you sit on a balcony and you unplug your cord from the Wall and you power down for four days staring at the ocean.
Roy
I guarantee you if I look. He was tweeting.
Mike Ryan
Absolutely.
Roy
You got the Internet package?
Mike Ryan
I got the Internet package.
Roy
You didn't unwind whatsoever.
Mike Ryan
No, I checked the phone from time to time.
Roy
Did you go on the water slides?
Mike Ryan
No. Claire did.
Stugatz
You were watching hockey the entire time you were in the room, were you not?
Mike Ryan
I wish I was watching hockey. I wasn't able to watch any. I watched the Dolphins game at the bar and that was it.
Roy
That sounds fun.
Stugatz
So you didn't get sports, you didn't get gambling, you didn't get drink a bar?
Billy Gill
He wasn't drinking yet.
Roy
Did you guys ice skate?
Mike Ryan
Yes, we did.
Roy
We did.
Mike Ryan
We did.
Roy
You ice skating?
Stugatz
There it is. Finally, we have found something. Thank you, Roy. It's always good to volunteer none of this and make us interrogate you to get it out of you by 5 minutes by crowbar out of your mouth. It's good that you volunteer none of it. You don't remember anything. But now we've sparked a memory. Yes, we ice skated.
Roy
If he was taken, he'd be returned. He'd be like, this is way too frustrating. Can't get anything out of this guy.
Mike Ryan
Exactly. That's part of my evil master plan.
Dan Le Batard
Did you get off the boat when you got to Labade?
Mike Ryan
Yes, yes.
Dan Le Batard
We walked around the island and you walked around.
Billy Gill
Yes.
Mike Ryan
And I sat on a beach chair. The entity.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, that sounds nice. Do you take any seashells or.
Mike Ryan
Claire took one. She seashell. That was it.
Jessica
By the seashore.
Mike Ryan
Exactly.
Stugatz
Okay, you know what?
Jessica
It's not.
Stugatz
What do you do you know what? What happened there?
Jessica
Me major penalty.
Billy Gill
5 minutes screaming comedy by the seashore.
Stugatz
Seashell by the seashore. Get out of here. That's not a helpful addition to what it. It's not a funny joke. It's not clever. It's lazy. And you were somehow worse than us. Having to interrogate Roy for five minutes to extract from him like archeologists that he went ice skating on a cruise ship.
Mike Ryan
Content. Dan.
Billy Gill
It's part of the game with Roy.
Roy
I have here a highlight from Roy's Cruz. This is from his Twitter account on December 9. He retweeted this tweet on December 9 while he was in Labadee, Haiti, or on his way back from Labadee, Haiti. It was a tweet from someone named Mark Lazarus and It just says 44 years on this planet. And I never realized that the quote new York and rangers are in all different fonts. That's insane. On the why would someone do something?
Dan Le Batard
Wait, it is?
Roy
Yeah.
Billy Gill
That's what.
Roy
That's what he did while he was on his cruise. He was retweeting.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that would have stopped me in my tracks too. Now I have to Google it.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, pull out the logo.
Billy Gill
I'm pretty certain that guy runs NBC Sports.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no.
Dan Le Batard
Blackhawks beat reporter for the Athletic. Right, Roy?
Stugatz
Correct.
Roy
Here's Zendaya in a giant hat.
Billy Gill
Wrong, Lazarus.
Roy
This is what you were doing from your balcony.
Dan Le Batard
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Roy
Is gymnastics gymnastics Pop prop? Possibly.
Mike Ryan
Oh, wow. Wow.
Stugatz
Stugats.
Roy
I got some phlegm in my mouth.
Billy Gill
Yeah, it's okay.
Roy
Yeah. Is gymnastics possibly corrupt? This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.
Stugatz
Jeremy, please go to the other room. It is time for your victory lap. I don't know what it is that the victory lap is about, but we'll get to it in a second. Also, do we know if Genesis has arrived? I will say, you know, that I don't do advertising around here, but if I were to advertise how you fix your body late in life so it doesn't have a great deal of pain, I would advise a lot of Genesis in your life or a lot of her mentor Al. So some of the people around here are going to take a mashing today to see if we can get some of the stress out of their body. But, Billy, can you help me do some work here on Stugatz? Emotionally, I can rarely convince him to do anything that he needs to do for himself so that he takes care of himself. He tends to rebuff me. And I think because he's been walking crooked lately that he needs an hour of Genesis. But I think he's also afraid of Genesis, that her healing hurts so much that he doesn't want to do a thing that would be better for him because the drives and the travel are taking a lot out of him.
Roy
I may not be your man for this job because I also have avoided Genesis for about three years now because I'm afraid.
Billy Gill
I'm terrified.
Roy
It hurts. It hurts. And I'm always afraid someone's going to sneak one past the goalie when she's standing on me. You know what I mean?
Dan Le Batard
No.
Roy
Like a fart is going to come out or something else is going to come out.
Billy Gill
Pushes down so hard.
Stugatz
Don't worry about it, Jessica. But you would not say the same things they say. You would say that it is rough and rugged, but also, you understand that the pain is the healing in it.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my God.
Stugatz
Right? Right.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, it's the best.
Billy Gill
But I've gotten so many massages in my life and usually like five minutes in, the masseuse says, hey, how's the pressure?
Roy
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Genesis doesn't do that. And if she does do it and you say, hey, lay off a little bit. She cranks it up.
Roy
Cranks it up.
Billy Gill
I'm terrified of her, I gotta be honest.
Roy
Getting older. His bones are getting more brittle. Like, we need to be careful.
Stugatz
Well, you say this, but I would say. Because I mean. Okay, okay, so I would sound a bit like a lunatic here, but when you endure whatever the pain is of that, it is your body healing itself, because she will make you more limber, more flexible, and you'll stop walking crooked. Like, the pain is the thing that you need in order to get better here. But, Jessica, you like the pain in here, and is she here? Because I am overdue here on needing some of your college football takes, because I'm tired of Mike Ryan's college football takes, and you don't agree with Mike Ryan's college football takes. So I'm thinking of merging both of those things. You get mashed, but you also give us your hottest takes. But you don't view this as pain that makes you yelp, right? Because I just did this this morning with her mentor, Al, and I'm. I'm screaming. Yeah, I'm screaming.
Dan Le Batard
You came to work. You don't feel like you're liquid right now? Because afterwards, I generally feel like I'm liquid. I have to go lay down.
Stugatz
I hurt at 6 o'clock in the morning in a way that woke up my wife, because I was screaming. Because he was on a part of my body with his knee and his body weight. But, yes, I feel physically better today.
Billy Gill
But I have used Al as well, and Al is fantastic. He really is. But when I tell him to lighten up on the pressure, he lightens up on the pressure. Genesis, not so much. I've never. I've never done it before because I'm petrified. Like, I'm way too scared.
Stugatz
Well, everybody comes out of there saying.
Dan Le Batard
That they feel like liquid.
Stugatz
Oh, my God. I don't know. My back is very sensitive.
Dan Le Batard
Didn't you play sports?
Stugatz
Yeah, but I clearly don't anymore.
Roy
I'm in a green witch costume.
Mike Ryan
That is true.
Stugatz
Samson, you would not allow somebody to touch you this way. You don't like a massage? Correct.
Billy Gill
You would like massage?
Stugatz
Any kind of massage.
Mike Ryan
Massage.
Stugatz
Would you be here for any kind of massage?
Jessica
There's certain massages I like.
Stugatz
Okay, but a professional massage in a professional environment. Well, he did already.
Mike Ryan
I mean, come on, man, you know what he's talking about.
Jessica
The answer is I was surrounded by people who did sports massages. As a marathon runner, you're supposed to get deep tissue. And I do not allow that. I don't want the pain. I'd rather I roll myself out.
Stugatz
The pain of that hurts too. That is also painful, but itself.
Jessica
When you self inflict the pain, it's easier because you have the threshold. But rollers do hurt. But yeah, I roll my calves and I roll my thighs and my back. But yeah, it can hurt, but I don't let someone else do that.
Stugatz
It's because you don't want somebody touching you that way. Correct. These people use their feet, their elbows, their knees. You would never allow any of that. Right? I wanted to ask you guys a question about this. In this realm, this is a serious question. Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebaton show. Should you get a full refund if during your entire 90 minute massage, the masseuse has the hiccups?
Billy Gill
Yes.
Stugatz
The entire 90 minute massage. No, this was something else.
Jessica
No one has hiccups for 90 minutes.
Dan Le Batard
I've had the hiccups for 90 minutes.
Billy Gill
90 minutes.
Roy
Long time.
Dan Le Batard
Yes. Almost happened last night as I was going to bag got the hiccup. You guys have heard me get the hiccups before, haven't you? There was like a whole day where I had the hiccups for like three hours and I had to record like multiple podcasts while I had the hiccups.
Jessica
You have no tricks?
Dan Le Batard
No.
Jessica
Everyone's got tricks.
Billy Gill
Sometimes they don't work, but I gave you one. Hold your breath, swallow three times. Remember? Like it worked, didn't it?
Dan Le Batard
I don't remember.
Billy Gill
I think it worked. Yes. Towards the end of the show, it worked.
Jessica
Ones too scared people. You could just go and blowing smoke in someone's mouth.
Billy Gill
Oh, really? I could do that? Yes.
Dan Le Batard
Don't do that to me.
Billy Gill
I'm an expert of that. But to answer Dan's question, do we deserve a full refund if they're hiccupping the entire diamond? Yes. I'm there to relax. I'm not. I'm not there.
Stugatz
I found it wildly distracting. Like, wildly distracting.
Billy Gill
Of course. I mean, they're making a sound every five seconds.
Stugatz
It made me want to stop five minutes into the massage because the hiccups were not stopping and did not stop for 90 minutes. And so I'm asking you guys if I deserve. Because I didn't ask for a discount or a refund, but I felt. Felt like that was not in any way what I was signing up for.
Jessica
I think sneezing and sniffles are worse than hiccups.
Roy
Wonder, is that oil or is that mucus?
Billy Gill
Is it a constant sneezing, though?
Jessica
I mean, no one sneezes for 90 minutes, but one sneeze is refund worthy. Five minutes of hiccups is not sneeze. If someone would sneeze in my presence and you'd feel. You'd feel the things.
Dan Le Batard
Now you're saying you're getting sneezed.
Billy Gill
That's different.
Jessica
Yes. Not one sneeze into your elbow like an appropriate person.
Stugatz
He's talking about a sneeze with the shrapnel that comes. The snot shrapnel that comes with the sneeze. That's a reflex.
Dan Le Batard
I don't want snot shrapnel on me, generally speaking, either. So, yeah. Okay, that's a full reflect.
Roy
What if the masseuse is a funny guy that does the sneeze, but then sprays you with the spray thing? Goes and then a little spray, and it's not real snot, but you don't know because you're looking at the floor.
Mike Ryan
No tip.
Roy
Have you ever fallen a scarf or.
Dan Le Batard
He's like, oh, I'm going to get this knot out, and then he starts pulling it, and it's like a scarf, and then it's another scarf coming out of your back.
Roy
Ooh, Clown masseuses would be great.
Dan Le Batard
That's a great idea.
Roy
Business model I gotta pitch you.
Dan Le Batard
Samson, can you invest?
Stugatz
Why do you think that's a great idea? Clown masseuses, Samson, you're not afraid of clown, are you? You're afraid. You're not afraid of clown, Billy.
Billy Gill
I mean.
Stugatz
So you think it's a good business? I just. Billy's. Billy's business ideas are something you always want to support. There. I'm still waiting for that. Moss Miami at the last remaining Kmart to come together.
Roy
I'm ready whenever you guys are. You guys are the ones that won't do it. I'm the idea man. You guys are the money man.
Dan Le Batard
Let me.
Roy
Definitely not the idea man. I bring the ideas here. Just fund these ideas. I'm telling you, that Kmart moss would be incredible.
Dan Le Batard
I'm gonna, like, just realign your nose real quick. Got a quarter?
Roy
I fell asleep in a massage, and I started snoring. Is that rude? Because I feel like that's more of a compliment to the masseuse. Like, they had me so comfortable that they put me to sleep.
Dan Le Batard
If I were them, I would just stop doing it.
Roy
Well, it was a couple's massage, so my wife was there. So then she also had to deal with, like, the embarrassment of I fell asleep and I was snoring. So she's getting a massage while I'm getting massage, and the three of them are dealing with me snoring while the massage is going on.
Jessica
That's refund worthy right there. What if you are getting a massage next to your significant other who's snoring?
Roy
Yeah.
Jessica
Don't get a couple.
Stugatz
What's the refund? What are you. What do you mean, what?
Jessica
Her massage got ruined.
Stugatz
Yes, I want to. His wife should get the refund.
Roy
I like the idea of just getting three couples massages forever because I just keep falling asleep and snoring and she.
Stugatz
Gets a refund on you Game the system, you guys.
Roy
The clowns are never going to see it coming.
Stugatz
You skipped right past Jessica's thievery of. You fall asleep during a massage. Jessica's giving and starts snoring. You're gonna wake up, and she's gonna be eating a sandwich nearby when you wake up. Cause she's just gonna stop working. I'm not gonna work if you're asleep. Even though the job is to work, I'm gonna wake up, and my masseuse is gonna be doing something else other than her job, because Jessica's a thief as a masseuse, which is worse than a clown as a masseuse.
Dan Le Batard
If I'm a masseuse, I have to take my breaks where I can get them and rest my hands. You know, you're using your hands all day. If my client falls in asleep, I'm monitoring the breathing situation. As soon as he snorts himself awake, I'm going to go right back in there, pretend like I've been massaging.
Roy
Barely touch, Just, like, do like this. And then, like, if the person wakes up, they think, like, oh, this is Just like the lull in the mass.
Dan Le Batard
We would all do it.
Jessica
Masseuses are very routine. So sleep or no sleep, you know, arm and then arm.
Billy Gill
Very disciplined. Very.
Jessica
It's a whole thing. They do the same thing whether you're awake, asleep, once in a while. It's the whisper. How's the pressure?
Billy Gill
Yeah, they do that except Genesis.
Dan Le Batard
I'm skipping the arms if you're sleeping. I'm not doing your arms if you're asleep.
Jessica
Nobody. I'm saying as a professional masseuse, you would just do it as a matter of course.
Dan Le Batard
Taking a break at sandwich time, I got to restock the gunpowder in my trick handshake, so I'm taking a break really quick.
Stugatz
I got you smoking a cigarette in the corner of the spa, eating a sandwich, even though you. Why would you be smoking a cigarette? You wake up the person who's snoring because you're having a heater in the corner.
Mike Ryan
That's a candle, Dan.
Stugatz
It's an ash. The scent ash scented candle in the corner of the spa. Why is there a clown masseuse, though? Why do you think this is a good idea, Billy? Because I will tell the audience we have not celebrated around here. Okay? And the gambling corners of the universe where people are making you money because they got inside information. Billy is better at gambling on football than anyone draftkings has ever known in an area of experts expertise.
Billy Gill
Except Stu is very close, and Stu.
Stugatz
Is jealous of Billy.
Billy Gill
Very jealous.
Stugatz
Stugatz is furious that Billy's a little better because Stugotts is having the season of a lifetime on God Bless Football, but Billy's been better. Billy keeps hitting on three. Three team parlays, three leg parlays. He hits in the first half. Billy, what's your record this season on God Bless Football? Against the spread, Billy?
Roy
41 17.
Billy Gill
Whoa.
Stugatz
That's better.
Roy
The problem is, and I will say this because you keep wanting to bring it up and talk about it. I don't like talking about it because I have felt the tension with Stugotts because Stugotts is not comfortable when we discuss this. So I don't want to discuss it.
Billy Gill
I mean, I thanked you because you gave me a 3 and O back to back weeks, I believe you gave me two, three and O's. And one of those games, I got to go to sleep by halftime, so I was fine with that. But I am trying to support you. And, you know, we're making a big deal about your record. I, too, have a fantastic record record, and I Haven't heard a peep from you, Billy Gill, about my record.
Roy
I haven't said. I'm not. I'm. Excuse me, I'm not. I'm not pushing to promote this record.
Billy Gill
I understand.
Roy
I'm just going out there and I'm giving you three picks at a time every Monday. And we do special events on Sundays. I'll do those.
Billy Gill
You know, we. I start a season going over 18 and we do a 30 for 30 on it. You know, I have a season right now at 61, 38 and 2 and no one says a word. I mean, it's unbelievable.
Roy
Not you. Billy wants to celebrate. Let's celebrate you. He also changes the line for every game I do.
Billy Gill
Well, I buy down that guy.
Jessica
Do it after.
Billy Gill
Boy, I don't care.
Stugatz
Some people have accused dugouts of finagling some lines. His record might. It's got some accounting. It's not. Look, it's not notarized by an accounting firm.
Billy Gill
Right. Those 38 losses, David, feel like 75 losses.
Stugatz
Well, they might be, but. But one of the things that happens with Billy, this is the case with both Billy and Juju. They care deeply. So they are actually pouring into looking where the advantages might be. But so are the gambling people and they're not doing as well as Billy Gill is and neither is Stu Gotts. And of course we celebrate when stu gotts in 30 for 30 styles starts a season 0 for 18. Because do you have any earthly idea how hard it is to start a season with your public picks going 0 and 18? It'd be as hard as going 18 0.
Billy Gill
What if I told you that the pursuit of perfection isn't always a good thing? That 0 for 14 on your gambling pics isn't just possible, but will likely have real life consequences. That my picks are for entertainment purposes only. That I gave you a sly wink and air quotes when I said that thing about my picks being for entertainment purposes only? That I've run into some pretty rough pieces you don't want to owe money to. That I've just taken out a third mortgage. That my daughters are going to have to make new friends in public school. That I know way too much about. The University of Hawaii's football team because I'm always up late chasing, that my wife is probably leaving me and taking the king. That if someone you never met before starts asking you questions about where I've been, tell them you haven't seen me in a while and immediately text me so I can get on the next flight to El Salvador. That I know it's been a rough couple of weeks, but I've got a great feeling about the Titans plus six and a half. On Sunday, ESPN filmed presents a 30 for 30 about one man's fight to keep both his kneecaps.
Stugatz
Did we do multiple 30 for 30s on this? Because it deserves it. Starting 14. 01 14.
Billy Gill
We did because I went 0014 one year and I think two years later went 00 16. During bowl season.
Jessica
Where was the 0018 from?
Stugatz
I think he did twice. I'm sorry, I think I got it wrong on 00:18. It was two different ones that I've confused. One was 00:14 and one was 00:16. It did happen twice. Twice. I think, Roy, if you keep searching our library, you'll find it. You'll find another one because he. It did happen twice.
Roy
That's more impressive than what Billy's doing.
Stugatz
To do that twice. That's unbelievable.
Billy Gill
Well, how about Billy pick games instead of these prop things? Okay. I don't like prop bets. Like something against the spread, man. That's how I do it. I pick a game. Pick aside.
Roy
That's another segment. Oh, that one. Oh, man, I had those with the dogs and then the. I told you the Panthers were going to cover that spread last week. No one believed that.
Billy Gill
You actually did. I took it.
Stugatz
Stu Gotts has been making.
Jessica
That's the killing.
Stugatz
Well, Stuart Gotts has been betting Billy's bets the last three. The last three he's made. Because Billy's gone 8 and 1 over the last three. Over the last three bets he's made.
Roy
I had an awkward conversation, David, where this isn't how we're supposed to be doing it at all. But I told Stugots, I go, you know what, Stugots? I'm going to pick games to lose on purpose next week just so that you feel like just for your. Just for your ego, I'm going to pick losers just for you. What's the worst bet I can make?
Mike Ryan
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Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Roy...Big Cruise Guy
Episode Details:
Timestamp: [02:23 – 05:43]
The episode kicks off with a discussion about the alarming trend of high-profile burglaries targeting athletes when they are away at games. The hosts delve into the recent break-in at Joe Burrow's residence, exploring the circumstances and potential vulnerabilities.
Dan Le Batard raises concerns about the pattern, noting, "NFL and NBA PA have apparently sent out memos to players over the last few months about a string of high profile burglaries that have happened while players are at games." (02:39)
Stugotz speculates on household dynamics, questioning whether Burrow was home alone. He states, "It just happened to Kelce and Patrick Mahomes, I believe." (02:47)
Jessica adds detail, mentioning that the home wasn't empty and a swimsuit model was present: "It wasn't empty. There was a swimsuit model, an employee." (03:25)
The conversation touches on the implications of single athletes versus those with families at home, with Dan remarking, "If you are married, wouldn't your partner be at the...," leading to a humorous back-and-forth about assumptions regarding Burrow's personal life.
This segment highlights the potential security risks athletes face and the importance of safeguarding personal residences, especially during high-profile events.
Timestamp: [06:05 – 10:50]
Transitioning from discussions about athlete security, the hosts pivot to the topic of the NFL documentary series, Hard Knocks. They debate the show's relevance and personal interest levels among the hosts.
Stugotz questions why only Jessica is interested in watching Hard Knocks, stating, "Why is Jessica the only one around here who cares at all about watching? What would I'd assume would be interesting?" (06:05)
Billy Gill shares his perspective, explaining, "Hard Knocks was something that got me excited for the football season. Once I'm inside the football season, I don't need Hard Knocks anymore." (07:21)
Dan Le Batard counters by expressing his enthusiasm for the Steelers' participation in Hard Knocks, despite initial reluctance: "It's because the Steelers are in it and they're winning a lot of games. That's the only reason I'm watching it." (09:13)
The discussion further explores the behind-the-scenes involvement of team coaches and the appeal of intimate team access provided by the series.
This segment underscores varying interests in sports documentaries and the specific allure that team dynamics, like those of the Steelers, can have on viewers.
Timestamp: [10:50 – 20:28]
A significant portion of the episode humorously revolves around Roy's recent cruise to Labadee, Haiti. The hosts engage in a playful interrogation, attempting to extract details about Roy's vacation, which Roy appears to have forgotten.
Stugotz initiates the segment with, "I want to ask questions of a colleague here because I don't know if some of us know something about Roy that seems to really delight Billy." (10:50)
Billy Gill recounts a detailed yet confusing story about traveling with Roy, mentioning encounters with Julio Jones and mishaps with room keys: "We were brought along. So we flew out and then we flew back out the next day." (12:36)
Roy humorously admits his lack of recollection, stating, "I was riding the boat. That's pretty much it." (15:24)
The hosts continue to probe, with comments like, "You followed your vacation was to follow your wife and child to parts unknown on a ship" (15:32), and Roy finally reveals minimal details, such as ice skating: "We did ice skating." (19:22)
The segment is filled with comedic exchanges, highlighting Roy's forgetfulness and the hosts' attempts to piece together his cruise experience.
This lighthearted section adds a fun and relatable element to the episode, showcasing the camaraderie and humor among the hosts.
Timestamp: [20:28 – 34:36]
The discussion shifts to the topic of massages, specifically focusing on Genesis, a massage therapist whose intense techniques elicit mixed feelings among the hosts.
Stugotz introduces the subject by addressing concerns about convincing someone to try Genesis' massages: "Billy, can you help me do some work here on Stugotz? Emotionally, I can rarely convince him to do anything that he needs to do for himself so that he takes care of himself." (25:54)
Roy shares his apprehension, saying, "I'm scared. I could crack up the pressure." (26:00)
Dan Le Batard humorously compares Genesis to other massage experiences, "Genesis doesn't do that. And if she does do it and you say, hey, lay off a little bit. She cranks it up." (26:25)
Jessica emphasizes her preference for self-administered massages, stating, "I'd rather I roll myself out." (28:41)
The hosts engage in a comedic debate about the pain versus healing benefits of professional massages, with Stugotz asserting, "the pain is the healing in it." (26:24)
The conversation evolves into a playful mock-interview about hypothetical scenarios during massages, such as masseuses dealing with hiccups or performing clown-like antics, adding layers of humor to the topic.
This segment blends practical insights on physical well-being with the hosts' signature humor, making the discussion both informative and entertaining.
Timestamp: [34:36 – 40:35]
Towards the end of the episode, the conversation turns to the hosts' gambling endeavors, focusing on their success rates and the competitive tension between them.
Billy Gill boasts about his impressive record: "I have a season right now at 61-38-2 and no one says a word." (36:34)
Stugotz expresses his frustration over lack of recognition for his own challenging betting streak: "We celebrate when stu gotts in 30 for 30 styles starts a season 0 for 18." (37:17)
Roy humorously admits to underperforming on purpose to ease the tension: "I'm going to pick games to lose on purpose next week just so that you feel like just for your ego, I'm going to pick losers just for you." (40:35)
The hosts discuss the pressures and personal impacts of their gambling habits, with Billy revealing the real-life consequences: "I've just taken out a third mortgage. That my daughters are going to have to make new friends in public school." (37:03)
Stugotz highlights the difficulty of consistently making accurate picks, acknowledging both Billy's and his own struggles: "They are actually pouring into looking where the advantages might be. But so are the gambling people and they're not doing as well as Billy Gill is and neither is Stu Gotts." (37:17)
The segment concludes with a humorous exchange about potential business ideas related to their betting activities, emphasizing the camaraderie and competitive spirit among the hosts.
This portion of the episode provides an engaging look into the hosts' personal hobbies, challenges, and the humorous dynamics that arise from their competitive nature.
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Conclusion:
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, listeners are treated to a blend of serious discussions and lighthearted banter. From the security concerns surrounding high-profile athletes like Joe Burrow to the humorous mishaps of Roy's cruise adventures, the hosts provide a comprehensive and engaging dialogue. The episode also delves into personal hobbies, such as gambling and massages, showcasing the dynamic interactions and chemistry between Dan, Stugotz, Roy, Billy Gill, Mike Ryan, and Jessica. Whether pondering the safety of star athletes or cracking jokes about cruise ship memories, the hosts deliver a rich and entertaining listening experience.