The Big Suey: Should Kendrick Play 'Not Like Us'?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Should Kendrick Play 'Not Like Us'?

Episode: The Big Suey: Should Kendrick Play 'Not Like Us'?
Release Date: February 7, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, David Sampson, Izzy Gutierrez

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz titled "The Big Suey: Should Kendrick Play 'Not Like Us'?", the hosts delve deep into the complexities surrounding Kendrick Lamar's potential song choice for the Super Bowl halftime show. The discussion intertwines legal concerns, artistic integrity, and the broader implications for the artists involved.

Main Discussion: Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl Halftime Show

Background of the Situation

The episode kicks off with Dan Le Batard introducing the central debate: whether Kendrick Lamar should perform his song "Not Like Us" during the Super Bowl halftime show. The conversation alludes to a speculative scenario where Kendrick's performance might be entangled with ongoing tensions between Drake and Universal Music Group, particularly concerning defamation lawsuits.

Notable Quote:

Dan LeBatard (05:35): "Kendrick Lamar is doing the halftime show. And I walked in this morning and I was like, oh, well, what if they... what if that was all just a big, like, fake beef so that they could have this crazy Super Bowl halftime show?"

Legal Implications and Risks

Stugotz and the team explore the potential legal ramifications if Kendrick were to perform "Not Like Us." They discuss the risk of escalation due to the defamation lawsuit Drake has filed, emphasizing that a high-profile performance like the Super Bowl could amplify any legal damages.

Notable Quote:

Stugatz (06:24): "Does he clear from the legalities? If he gets up to that lyric and then, like, stops and lets the audience say the inappropriate stuff that Drake is worried about?"

David Sampson, with his legal expertise, provides insights into the possible financial and reputational risks Kendrick might face, suggesting that the Super Bowl's vast viewership could amplify the consequences of any legal disputes.

Notable Quote:

David Sampson (08:48): "The juice is not nearly worth the squeeze."

Artistic Integrity vs. Commercial Pressure

The hosts debate whether Kendrick Lamar should prioritize artistic expression over commercial pressures. They consider whether performing the contentious song would overshadow Kendrick's previous accolades and genuine artistic endeavors.

Notable Quote:

Izzy Gutierrez (10:22): "But the other part about this is, if you're Kendrick, and this is sort of a career celebration for you, right? How much of this time do you really want to spend stomping on Drake's grave?"

Possible Outcomes and Recommendations

After weighing the pros and cons, the consensus leans towards Kendrick avoiding the performance of "Not Like Us" to maintain his professional integrity and minimize legal risks. The hosts agree that the potential fallout from such a move could outweigh the benefits of a high-profile performance.

Notable Quote:

Dan LeBatard (09:28): "There's no formula... the Super Bowl is a massive platform, and the damages, if he is found guilty, would then increase."

Side Discussion: Jake Paul vs. Canelo Alvarez Fight Developments

Shifting gears, the episode briefly touches upon the unexpected changes in the highly anticipated fight between Jake Paul and Canelo Alvarez. The sudden decision by Canelo to opt for a four-fight deal instead of facing Paul has left fans and promoters bewildered.

Notable Quote:

Chris Cody (14:38): "They announced the fight, and then Canelo said, 'I got a better idea. I'm not going to fight Paul.'"

The hosts speculate on the strategic moves behind this decision, considering the influence of Saudi Arabia's Riyadh season and its role in reshaping boxing's landscape.

Media, Attention, and Genius in the Modern Era

In the latter part of the episode, the conversation broadens to discuss the nature of media attention in today's fragmented landscape. Comparing contemporary media figures like the Kardashian family to longstanding personalities like Jerry Springer and Maury Povich, the hosts debate what constitutes true genius in capturing and maintaining public attention.

Notable Quote:

Chris Cody (25:12): "The idea that, David, just the ability to grab people's attention, that is the most rewarded thing right now. You don't even have to hold the attention."

They conclude that while attention is a valuable currency in today's media-driven world, maintaining depth and substance remains a challenging yet essential endeavor for lasting influence.

Conclusion

"The Big Suey: Should Kendrick Play 'Not Like Us'?" offers a multifaceted exploration of the intersection between artistry, legal challenges, and media strategies. The hosts provide a nuanced perspective on the potential implications of high-profile performances and the evolving nature of public attention in the digital age.

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Note: The timestamps referenced in the quotes correspond to the moments within the episode's transcript where the discussed points are addressed.

Transcript

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[David Sampson]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Izzy Gutierrez]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[David Sampson]

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[David Sampson]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

So Carl, who just got Willow out of here to save David, has a take about the halftime show, which I hadn't really contemplated.

[Chris Cody]

I really thought you were just steamrolling past Jess, like, nah, we're gonna talk about something else.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, we're teammates.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

We all back and forth.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Stugatz]

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[David Sampson]

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[Mike Ryan]

The take Carl had, though, Jess.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so Kendrick Lamar is doing the halftime show. And I walked in this morning and I was like, oh, well, what if they. This whole thing with Drake was kayfabe, and Drake came out and they did poetic justice together, and it was like this whole big, like, fake beef so that they could have this crazy super bowl halftime show. And everyone was like, oh, that's. That would be so funny. And then Carl was like, he can't play. Not like us because he'll get sued because of this defamation lawsuit. Like, the damages will be even higher if he plays it during the Super Bowl. So his take was he can't play that song, which I.

[Mike Ryan]

Look, Carl is. I trust Carl on music. He has a depth of knowledge that is.

[Stugatz]

That implies you don't trust him in other areas.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, doesn't trust him on baking, cooking.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, directions.

[Mike Ryan]

We all know that. Directions. Directions.

[David Sampson]

Just. Do you trust him to get you from point A to point B?

[Mike Ryan]

That's what you got GPS for things.

[Dan LeBatard]

But yeah, directions.

[Mike Ryan]

I had not considered that Kendrick might not play the song that everybody is waiting for him to play.

[Chris Cody]

Did he want a Grammy over? Right?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, a Grammy.

[David Sampson]

It would have come out, though, because they've been rehearsing all week. Don't we assume there would have been a leak? That would be big news if you were playing that song.

[Chris Cody]

If he weren't playing that song.

[Stugatz]

Is he clear from the legalities? If he gets up to that lyric and then, like, stops and lets the audience say the inappropriate stuff that Drake is worried about?

[Chris Cody]

That's the other thing. They never actually play an entire song in any of these things. It's a medley.

[Stugatz]

But, you know, Roy brought that up. But, you know, he wants to. Even if it's a part of that song, he wants it to be the part that Gets that line.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

But in that theory, wouldn't he be able to sue him or whatever? You have grounds. If he plays that anywhere, any concert with people at and cameras there, why the super bowl is the one. Obviously more eyes on it. But isn't that the same concept of just performing it at a concert?

[Stugatz]

Like, the concert. Didn't he do it, like 12 times in a row at a concert a few months?

[Dan LeBatard]

I think the theory, though, is that the super bowl is more watched than any of those things. And so the damages, if he is found guilty would then increase.

[David Sampson]

And the NFL controls it. There's a set list. It's all totally rehearsed. The move in, the move out.

[Stugatz]

But doesn't the NFL want to be, like, viral? Like, isn't there part of the NFL? Like, we want this moment.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want everyone to sing about the.

[Stugatz]

No, I know, but also. Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm agreeing with you, Chris.

[Chris Cody]

But also, Chris, I like the idea of the NFL saying, damn, no one's talking about the Super Bowl. How do we give it some spice? How do we go viral?

[Stugatz]

But the idea of the NFL looking at Kendrick and be like, we got you. We'll cover it. Can you imagine whatever the bill is.

[Mike Ryan]

The gigantic L that Drake's going to.

[Chris Cody]

Take, when thousands of people in that.

[Mike Ryan]

Stadium and everybody at home just say is a minor.

[Stugatz]

Does anyone know? Like, what are we talking about? Like, what. How much will this cost Kendrick if he does it, then there's a lawsuit and he loses the lawsuit.

[Chris Cody]

I want to ask David, because you're.

[Stugatz]

A lawyer, ballpark, like, what number are we looking at here?

[Chris Cody]

Is. Is this a. If you were advising Kendrick Lamar, would you say, hey, this opens us up to immense liability.

[Mike Ryan]

Time to throw away the journalistic credibility and get reckless? Here is something we like to call R. Lesser.

[Chris Cody]

Speculation.

[David Sampson]

You're good. What is. What am I. I'm not doing anything journalistic.

[Stugatz]

Just answer the question.

[David Sampson]

Inappropriate. I'm tired of you. It's. That you've been in that chair the whole week. Why couldn't it mean sit in the chair? Why couldn't I sit in the chair? You're great in the chair. I mean, thank you. I just find it hard to imagine that. It's just. And now he's pressing buttons, putting people. Whatever.

[Chris Cody]

He's asking questions.

[David Sampson]

You're not. I could. I could have started with that button, with his whole Kevin love stuff. You again.

[Mike Ryan]

You're not good.

[Chris Cody]

So how would you advise Kendrick Lamar?

[David Sampson]

The juice is not nearly worth the squeeze.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[David Sampson]

Here's. Here's how the damage.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's what all lawyers say about everything. So let's start with that. Like, the lawyers are always going to be like, don't do something.

[David Sampson]

Because a lawyer's job is to protect a client from doing something that would put the client in a position of weakness, either financially or criminally or civilly with specific performance. You don't want to have your client do that. There's no way that Kendrick Lamar has anyone around him suggesting he does anything. But there's no formula. Hey, there's 100 million people watching the Super bowl on TV around the world. There's 60,000 in the Caesar Dome. Therefore, it's $1 per person. That sort of math is not how they do it.

[Mike Ryan]

So the Washington Post did an analysis of this in parallel. Just discovered this now. But it's helpful journalistically speaking, to avoid recklessness, they interviewed a guy named Ken White, a First amendment lawyer and criminal defense attorney. Drake, of course, has already accused Universal Music Group of defamation for promoting the song in question. White told the Post this, quote, I would probably tell them that there is a high risk you're gonna get sued, so don't do it unless you're ready for a big, expensive litigation. Maybe that's just kind of the cost of doing business.

[David Sampson]

There's nothing in there about the amount because there's more people.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

There's also nothing in there. I'm sorry. Because there's also nothing in there in terms of whether he can say the words or just play the beat. Right? Just playing the beat at certain points throughout the performance, I think is something that gets people connected, and they obviously light up for it. The other thing that I think about.

[Dan LeBatard]

This would piss off everyone.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Well, maybe it could piss them off, but it could be the only happy medium there.

[Stugatz]

Let the audience sing. But if I can get to the lyric and then let the crowd do it.

[Mike Ryan]

The only case of me wanting to hear the audience sing, sing a song, a thing I normally hate when going to a concert.

[Chris Cody]

No, man, that's a karaoke move. See, that's a karaoke move. You sing a song that has a part that everybody knows and loves, and.

[Mike Ryan]

Then you put the mic in the air.

[Chris Cody]

Then you put the mic out like that. Go ahead and sing it for me. And then you look at the crowd and you realize I control you all.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

But the other part about this is, if you're Kendrick, and this is sort of a career celebration for you, Right. How much of this time do you really want to spend stomping on Drake's grave Because that would assume that that is what made you to this level. Kendrick has been building up to this, and then this just happens be part of his story.

[Chris Cody]

The last year has been him just doing this. So it's pretty important. I would say.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I would say that too.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

But if I'm Kendrick, I want people to respect everything I've done before this and not think I'm just a diss track guy.

[David Sampson]

Didn't he win a bunch of Grammys?

[Dan LeBatard]

He won record of the year. Like, I hear you, Izzy, but I think if you play it's only one of probably 10 songs he's going to play parts of during it. But everyone's going to be mad if he doesn't play it. Everyone?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Just say, oh, you were scared.

[Chris Cody]

Not everyone. Drake's going to be fine.

[David Sampson]

Is there a. Is there a market for this? Because I would say. I would say he will not play it.

[Chris Cody]

I think.

[Stugatz]

I think, sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's a guarantee.

[Stugatz]

I'm gonna go out there. I think he does it. I don't know. If he says the lyric, we will hear a portion of that song to Izzy's point.

[Chris Cody]

They're going to play the instrumental for sure. Because there's nothing in the instrumental that. Right. If.

[Stugatz]

Do you know that, though? Because it might just be. Izzy might be right. It might just be. If any portion of that song is.

[Chris Cody]

Not the instrumental, acquire. Get a choir to come out and.

[Mike Ryan]

Say, you know what? I hadn't considered just the escalating indignity of this. If this becomes a Supreme Court case, Clarence Thomas is going to decide on this.

[David Sampson]

If Drake, his wife will.

[Mike Ryan]

If the people who control Clarence Thomas. Yeah. Get to decide this case. Look, I. Man, if they teach this class in Law School.

[David Sampson]

First Amendment. If they constitutionality.

[Mike Ryan]

If they teach Drake's 2024, 2025 as a case study in law school.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Have you seen what he's doing now? Or where he's been? He's on the other side of the planet.

[Stugatz]

First.

[Mike Ryan]

He's farther away, trying to hide the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Poetic justice collaboration on stage. Probably not happening, because that was my favorite conspiracy theory that I thought of this morning.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

He walked out on stage with a vest with bullet holes in it and smoke coming out of it as if to say, hey, they shot me, but I'm still alive. It's like. It's frankly corny. He's mad corny for that.

[David Sampson]

That's a callback so good. Southern would have made it better with a drawl.

[Chris Cody]

Southern, not prospector.

[Mike Ryan]

Why does it mean waving a piece of Paper in front of us.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I'm picking up the topic sheet and I'm feeling this thing slowly meet its mortal demise. And I'm like, well, let's see what else is on the sheet.

[Mike Ryan]

It was circling a drain that you cannot possibly set your feet atop.

[Chris Cody]

We're out of topics. We're not out of topics. This topic is out of gas, though. Oh, that's why I was just.

[Mike Ryan]

Transition time.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

To me, not liking drain. This is all just a bunch of inside jokes.

[Mike Ryan]

You get that, Dave? Fritzi was right.

[Chris Cody]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is what Friday shows are for. We get to call back from earlier in the week.

[Chris Cody]

It's a reward to the listeners who have stuck with us throughout the week. Right.

[Mike Ryan]

We are operating at levels that are clearly deeper than the average listener.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Kendrick levels.

[David Sampson]

I was very focused on Jake Paul all night.

[Mike Ryan]

This Canelo thing.

[David Sampson]

Oh, that's a big thing. It's a big thing, that Canelo. They had a deal and then Canelo changed his mind.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I missed this.

[David Sampson]

This is major news. They announced, I heard the fight. And then Canelo said, I got a better idea. I'm not going to fight Paul. I'm instead going to do a four series fight with an actual fighter. Which left Paul with nobody.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, well, so how did this happen?

[David Sampson]

Boy, I hope I didn't miss this. This is my moment. Bring something to the ground deal.

[Chris Cody]

With Riyadh season nixing Jake Pa. This is according to MMA Junkie.

[David Sampson]

After it was announced that it was a brilliant Netflix move. More people than Tyson Paul would have been Alvarez Paul. And because we would have watched Paul get his ass kicked, they were gonna do it at £200 and it was gonna be huge money, huge, everything. And then he changed his mind overnight.

[Mike Ryan]

So it was supposed to be May 3rd in Las Vegas. That was the imminent fight between super fight between Jake Paul and Canelo Alvarez. But in a stunning development, according to this is Mike [e-mail] Alv changed course and instead completed a four fight deal. Yeah. With Riyadh season, of course, going now to Saudi Arabia. What a Mad Lib. What a perfect 2025 Mad Lib.

[Chris Cody]

I'm looking at the tweet that announced it from Turkey, Al Shif, who is the chairman.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm glad you're here. To pronounce these names correctly.

[Chris Cody]

He's the chairman of Saudi Arabia's General Entertainment Authority. He announced it with this Twitter post. It's a picture of a lion and it says, don't mess with the lion. Lion Emoji, Four fights for Canelo. With Riyadh season, the deal is done. Boxing glove emoj. Lion emoji doesn't sleep over the opinion of a sheep. Sheep emoji fear the lion. Lion emoji, not the jungle. And then I think it is the emoji of a person going like this, doing the X sign in front of him. And it always blows my mind when grown people, not teenagers, but people in their 30s, 40s and older, sprinkle an inordinate amount of emojis throughout their posts.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it's the Nancy Pelosi, Wakanda forever thing.

[Chris Cody]

It absolutely is.

[David Sampson]

So I'm gonna get back. So you're Jake Paul Ruth kinda forever. Think about what you've done in business. You are at the height you announced something with Logan, a reality show. You are fighting on all cylinders, operating on all cylinders. You get to announce this Canelo thing, which is gonna be the biggest thing ever. And in one hour it all got usurped. And now what's he gonna do? He's totally screwed.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, he absolutely is.

[David Sampson]

He's got to fight his brother for real.

[Chris Cody]

Well, no, he's not gonna fight his brother.

[David Sampson]

He's got to do something. He's got to have a fight that follows up Tyson. He had two things announced. First, against his brother. It turned out to be wrong. It's just a commercial for a reality show.

[Stugatz]

It's got to be some 40 year old MMA fighter out there or I.

[Chris Cody]

Don'T know, it's going to be someone who is. That's the thing about the Canelo fight. It's like he's. That guy's in his prime. Right. That's not the Jake Paul formula.

[David Sampson]

The formula wants it to be. He wants to be a genuine. Does he Winning fighter.

[Chris Cody]

Does, does he?

[Stugatz]

If you're trying to fight Canelo.

[David Sampson]

I thought that was the whole purpose of the Canelo fight.

[Chris Cody]

Is it possible that we're just gonna say this thing and it's not actually gonna happen? Like maybe this Canelo triple switcheroo. Yeah.

[David Sampson]

Oh, that. It's gonna go back to Canelo, Paul.

[Chris Cody]

No.

[Stugatz]

Where Jake pitches to Canelo. All right. We're never actually gonna fight. Yeah, let's announce we're gonna fight.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

And then you cancel it just to get me in the news, just so people think you would have.

[Chris Cody]

I'm real. I'm real. I try to fight Canelo. I try to fight. Hey, Canelo, here's some money. We don't have to fight.

[David Sampson]

Don't you need more that the Paul.

[Stugatz]

Honestly, the Pauls are so good at marketing that I. I don't want to put that past them of doing something like that. Where Canelo says, look, Jake, I'm never fighting you, but just for pub, I might tease it a little bit.

[David Sampson]

I'll give you one day. It is one day.

[Mike Ryan]

It is. It is funny that we're at a point where rank total incompetence can plausibly be a really smart chess move.

[David Sampson]

But Paul's proven to be brilliant in marketing by the. On a side note, but.

[Mike Ryan]

But when you can't distinguish between intent and incompetence, it's hard to diagnose the sweet spot.

[David Sampson]

Yeah. Just described the show perfectly.

[Chris Cody]

There it is.

[Mike Ryan]

There was an inflection point here though, right? Canelo, to Amin's point, 34 years old, reigning tight all boxing belts are on some level also fake made up things that are corrupted. But holds the wba, wbc, IBF super middleweight titles, legitimate superstar. And there was a moment here when I heard that fight, the Jake Paul original announcement. Like boxing is. This is. This is. Again, everybody's been trying to kill boxing for decades. This felt like the latest and maybe one of the biggest indignities because Canelo was turning his back on actual fights he could have made money on. And here, of course, David is Saudi Arabia saving boxing.

[David Sampson]

So the only thing I thought of when I saw it is that he had a deal with Paul that he was going to make X dollars. And Saudi Arabia came in and said, listen, Canelo, guess what we have. We have X plus Y.

[Mike Ryan]

We have whatever you need because we, we have a budget.

[David Sampson]

We don't have a budget. Give me four fights. And Canelo, it was a deal that got done in a day, which is hard to do deals like that. So Canelo had a call, but I was dreaming about last night is the call from Canelo to Paul because Paul didn't discover it on Twitter.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[David Sampson]

There was a deal that obviously had an escape clause and he escaped in a day.

[Chris Cody]

Unless that was the deal all along.

[David Sampson]

Now we're talking conspiracy.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, well, I mean, if.

[David Sampson]

We'll see what Jake Paul's next.

[Chris Cody]

The reason, the reason why it, it raises above conspiracy in this sense that we know that this individual is not above these kind of things. I don't think he's a marketing genius. I just think he does tactics that most people would say, okay, that's kind of corny. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna do this for real. And he's not afraid to pull these kind of quote unquote stunts for the publicity. I don't. Look, no one ever thought about announcing it and then not actually doing it. It's not that brilliant of a move. It's just, I don't. Shameless. Stu Gaucher, I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My wife and my two daughters, they begged me to buy a peloton. So I bought a peloton. And then I watched that peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day I looked at it and so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on the peloton because no one else was using it and I paid for it. I mean, so why not? Then I realized eventually that they bought it for me. And I got to tell you, way more challenging than I could have ever imagined. Peloton coaches are walking the walk. I love the coaches.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Do the Grateful Dead one.

[Chris Cody]

It's fantastic. They have a sub three hour marathon runner, military trained athlete, a former college basketball player, and so many other well rounded coaches on their team. All this experience really shows in their classes, which are never short of challenging, especially for me. So I jumped on it that first time. It was challenging, more challenging than I thought. And then I wanted to beat the bike and so I kept jumping on it. And I absolutely love it. I. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it, but again, they got it for me. I mean, I had no idea. That's a little passive aggressive, don't you think? Find your push. Find your power with [e-mail].

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[Chris Cody]

Don Lebatard Kermit the Frog here.

[Mike Ryan]

Live from Meadowlock Media Studios here in Miami.

[Chris Cody]

Stugats.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

The Germans are advancing on France in World War II.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. I don't think he's a marketing genius either. I do think he exists in a time that reflects his natural superpower more than any other time that sports has existed in which is just getting attention for anything is monetizable.

[David Sampson]

Is that an insult to your geniusness that you don't want to call him a genius because you don't want to be associated with someone like Jake Paul. Does it offend you? Because people, I just think we got.

[Mike Ryan]

We need to have a higher bar. For what? Genius.

[David Sampson]

Boy, oh boy.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

I was going to say you can't answer that question and look good there.

[David Sampson]

Pablo, if, if you're in the business world, what Jake Paul's done and you.

[Stugatz]

Don'T respect both Paul brothers, like, I'm with you, I'm with David. Like in terms of marketing, it's undeniable.

[Mike Ryan]

My view, I mean my view has always been like on the Kardashians, it's like they are playing the game better than Anybody else's. The question of does that make them geniuses? I think is a fair debate.

[David Sampson]

I don't mean that they can go on Celebrity Jeopardy. Or Family Feud. I'm not. Or they can go to Harvard. I'm not Talking about equals.

[Dan LeBatard]

McDead. Apparently she got some sort of law degree there, right? Business school degree. Right.

[Mike Ryan]

Pablo, she went to one of those business school courses that I think maybe Kevin Love went to it.

[Dan LeBatard]

One of the great memes of all time, posing in front of it. Use it anytime. I don't buy something.

[David Sampson]

I think you can be a genius without an Ivy League education.

[Chris Cody]

No one disputes that, but I think.

[Mike Ryan]

You'Re a genius strawman builder, so.

[David Sampson]

And a badger.

[Chris Cody]

We live at a time where the economy rewards attention, Right? But Chris Hayes actually wrote a book about this.

[Mike Ryan]

He was on PTFO talking about it.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, nice. How about that? So, and the idea is that, David, just the ability to grab people's attention, that is the most rewarded thing right now. You don't even have to hold the attention.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the most important and scarcest resource at this point.

[Chris Cody]

Because everyone's attention is so fractured, we're being bombarded by messaging from our devices, from everything around us. Right. And because of that, our attention spans are shorter than they've ever been. So the idea that I can get your attention, even for a brief moment, there is a value to that. Now, is there genius in being shameless? I don't know. Like, if we talk about the Kardashians, the startup capital, if you will, of why they became rich and famous was because they decided, okay, we will reveal things about ourselves that most people would say, I'm above that. Is that genius or is that just.

[David Sampson]

You know, LeBatard, for four hours a day, five days a week, gets a huge loyal audience to listen in. A fractured world to listen to, even when he's not here to listen to what we're doing. And you're not gonna call Dan a genius for the ability to put together in his mind a show that grabs people's attention. It's genius.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm glad you brought up Dan because we wanted to play a clip of Dan Patrick talking about Dan from their one on one conversation earlier this week, Orleans.

[Mike Ryan]

It was a deep dive and I. I just kept. He wanted to talk about, you know, my personal journey and my health, and I just was like, no, I don't think so. I don't want to do that. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

There was a point where Dan Levittard.

[Mike Ryan]

Asked Dan Patrick, what was love like in the house. And I was like, oh, man, we.

[Stugatz]

Might have to go see Dan.

[Chris Cody]

I was yelling up.

[Stugatz]

There's a trade.

[Chris Cody]

There's been a trade. Jimmy Butler.

[Mike Ryan]

Jimmy Butler. I. I thought that I was there with Sally, Jesse Raphael or Dr. Phil. So Dan Patrick did not want introspection. Kids today don't appreciate Sally Jesse Raphael.

[Chris Cody]

And those glasses.

[Dan LeBatard]

Those glasses, I would like to add. They're not allowed to make those jokes. Okay. Only we can make those jokes.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. That's our Dan. And the only person who bullies you.

[Mike Ryan]

That's our Dan. That's our Dan. That. David.

[David Sampson]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

You're not. You're not.

[Chris Cody]

It's not our Dan. No.

[David Sampson]

I'm chantless.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. I want. On the. There.

[David Sampson]

Is she alive?

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

Is that a rhyme? The era. The era of 90s daytime talk show.

[Chris Cody]

Right? I want to talk about this. Right? Because I've had this topic for, like, weeks now, and it just never finds a way. Now, finally, we found a way. The on ramp.

[Mike Ryan]

You're welcome.

[Chris Cody]

I was watching a clip online of Jerry Springer, and the topic of the show is my boyfriend is cheating on me on Snapchat. And it blew my mind that Jerry Springer show and Snapchat existed in the same time. It's like when I found out there was someone who was alive during the Civil War who also saw, like, Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. Like, it just. It blows my mind when these two things occupy the same space and, like, there's no way. So I was wondering, do you guys have other examples of that where two things from completely different eras actually coincided in the same era?

[Stugatz]

I was shocked to learn that Pablo Picasso died in the 70s. I thought he was from, like, the 1300s.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's insane.

[Mike Ryan]

I have.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

You could have told me any era in history, I would have said, yep, Pablo was probably there.

[Stugatz]

Pablo Picasso drove a car.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. There's like, photographs.

[Dan LeBatard]

This blows my mind that you guys thought he was. I'm telling you, I thought the ab.

[Stugatz]

The BC area.

[Chris Cody]

The BC area.

[Stugatz]

Ab.

[Dan LeBatard]

But, like, you've seen what British Columbia art looks like.

[Chris Cody]

The ab.

[David Sampson]

Please do not ask him to describe cubism, Jessica.

[Chris Cody]

But like, my ab joke out that Jeremy is doing the. Oh, God.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, man.

[Chris Cody]

Windows. Just small windows.

[Stugatz]

I'm not alone on this. Some comedian did a whole bit on this. This is a shocking thing that Picasso died in the 70s.

[Mike Ryan]

I was going to ask, by the way, why is Chris Cody equipped with a Pablo Picasso take? And then I just heard the explanation.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, Anything.

[Stugatz]

The same game.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. That's like, whoa.

[Mike Ryan]

One of my favorite details, by the way. I mean, on the 90s era, the golden era of daytime talk show. Right? Because keep in mind, Sally Jesse Raphael.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Jerry Springer.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Maury Povich.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Oprah Winfrey.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. Keep going. Going.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sally Jessie Raphael. What show did she host?

[Stugatz]

I recognize the lady you put up there, but I did not know her by name.

[Chris Cody]

What. What about Ricky Lake?

[Mike Ryan]

Ricky Lake.

[Chris Cody]

What about Jenny Jones?

[Mike Ryan]

Jenny Jones.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, Jenny Jones.

[Stugatz]

Ricky Lake. I remember for sure.

[Chris Cody]

You don't remember Sally Jesse Raphael.

[Mike Ryan]

She hosted the Sally Jesse Raphael Show.

[Stugatz]

When we put up the picture, I recognized her by looking at her, but I would not. Didn't know her name.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

I recognize the cursive font that spells out Sally. Like, that's how much it's burned into my brain.

[Chris Cody]

Now, here's the crazy part. Were these people geniuses or did they just capitalize on the. The moment?

[Mike Ryan]

No, that's more. That's a good question.

[Chris Cody]

Morton Downey Jr.

[Mike Ryan]

Capitalized in a moment.

[Chris Cody]

Geraldo.

[David Sampson]

They had TV shows.

[Mike Ryan]

Montel Williams.

[Chris Cody]

That was a late night.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

David.

[Stugatz]

You're saying they had TV shows. You just gave Dan all this credit, like he's this gene. It's like he has a podcast. I'm not saying.

[Chris Cody]

No. No.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Stugatz]

So I'm saying, what's the difference between Dan and what Jerry Springer did?

[David Sampson]

20 years. How long did Jerry Springer go take the under.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Was running through 2018.

[Chris Cody]

I just told you. They had an episode where they were talking about Snapchat. This is like saying, like, Donny Carson had an episode where he was talking about Hinge or Tinder. Like, it's insane that these two things.

[Stugatz]

27 seasons.

[Chris Cody]

27 season of Springer Show.

[David Sampson]

Is that 27 years or 27 seasons?

[Stugatz]

I think we can meet in the middle on this. I'm not saying let's call Dan a genius and Springer.

[Mike Ryan]

Know who is a genius?

[Chris Cody]

Me.

[Mike Ryan]

31 season long run at the top of his. Top of his game. Maury Povich.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

The king.

[Stugatz]

You're not the father.

[David Sampson]

Former.

[Mike Ryan]

Former.

[Stugatz]

Did you interview.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've been on an episode of Maury.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Were you the father?

[Dan LeBatard]

Ryan? Manny took us to a taping of the Maury Povich show to watch. Yes. Because they film in Stamford, Connecticut, and it was like a SP Nation field trip. He took the whole video team there. One of our co workers loved Maury, and so he just took us all. We sat there, they taped three episodes, and then we took a bus back to our house.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you get a paternity episode?

[Dan LeBatard]

It was a Paternity episode. I think it was a polygraph episode.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you get a phobia episode?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, didn't get a phobia episode. But I grew up watching Maury because it was always on in the middle.

[Stugatz]

Of the day when you get home from school.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it was always on my babysitter, like, loved Mori. So I just watched it it every single day.

[Chris Cody]

In the case of 27 year old Jessica, you are not the storyteller. Oh, I thought you said you were on an episode of the Maury show.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was. The camera cut to me like I was in the front row. I didn't mean like I was a participant.

[Chris Cody]

You can't say I was on the Maury show. And that would have been more fun. Like, I went to, I saw taping and they got me in the crowd. Is different from I was on the Maury show.

[Stugatz]

I was on the Conan O'Brien Show.

[Chris Cody]

On the Maury show, I had you, like them revealing that Lehman was actually telling the truth. And you go, oh, my God, he was fishing.

[Stugatz]

She goes to the back. They always go to the back following.

[Mike Ryan]

The camera that follows them. So I talked to Maury about this on the show. It's a really good episode. I'm just plugging that because I'm here to plug my show. We talked about all of this. What he used to do as a meme is running around the studio. What he used to do is, I mean, he would go to the, to the length of making sure he pronounced every child whose paternity in question their name correctly. He would do, he would. He was, he was Maury Povich. His dad, Shirley Povich, legendary sports writer. He's in the sports media coaching tree. Is Amin okay?

[David Sampson]

It's a lot of noise.

[Stugatz]

We need someone mic'd up to play the Mori role. To go back there and be like, listen, it's fine, man. Just everything's going to be all right.

[Mike Ryan]

My favorite thing, I mean, that Maury told me was that even though he and Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer, by the way, the late, great, late Jerry Springer.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Maury Povich still. Still with us. Still going strong. What Maury told me is that Maury Povich still checks the ratings to see whose rerun is beating the other. He's still taking pride in beating Jerry Springer from the. I mean, well, one of them is no longer with us.

[Chris Cody]

You said from the grave.

[Mike Ryan]

I was almost, you know, Maury Povich.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Is 86 and he's still with us.

[Mike Ryan]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Chris Cody]

But was Maury Povich ever mayor of Cincinnati Jerry Springer has that on his side.

[David Sampson]

Doesn't help the ratings.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, well, the question, though, of ratings and why we should admire our Dan is because, as Chris Hayes points out in this book as well, the easiest thing to do now, getting back to the genius conversation, is to grab attention. The hardest thing to do is hold it. So if you've been listening to us this week, if you listen to Dan this week, four hours a day, just know that you are paying the ultimate compliment to our Dan. You are here for the long haul. It's the whole thing. I mean, you know those guys who go to, like, South Korea and they cause a scene.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, yeah, that guy TikTok.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

What's a Somali?

[Mike Ryan]

Something. Yeah. The point being he basically yells fire in a crowded theater. Everybody looks at him and he's grabbed attention.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

A lot harder is to go into a theater, yell fire or take out whatever. Do whatever you can. Take off your clothes, then say, and now proceed to listen to me for the next two hours. That is hard.

[David Sampson]

Or buy my coin.

[Stugatz]

Is Salt Bay a genius?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Stugatz]

Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, he's made a lot of.

[Stugatz]

Money capitalizing on anything now without doing this, on things.

[David Sampson]

When you have. When you come up with a way to do what everybody else does with their steak, but they happen to do it either this way or they do it this way.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

I don't like any of those movements from you, David.

[David Sampson]

I love all those movements, every last one of them.

[Stugatz]

You ever see how much salty wastes?

[Mike Ryan]

Can you imagine being the. The guy everywhere at the Salt Bay restaurant?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, man, that guy. He's working overtime.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think you automatically get genius status just because you made a lot of money doing, like, one thing. I think that you have to do two things to be really good at it. But there's also, like, ways to make a lot of money doing one thing that, you know, are sprinkling salt.

[Stugatz]

Like, where are the geniuses with no attention?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, man, they're everywhere.

[Dan LeBatard]

Also, I have a. I have a. More importantly, two things that existed at the same time. Grover Cleveland and butt plus plugs.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Chris Cody]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[David Sampson]

Butt plugs, I assume were with cavemen.

[Chris Cody]

What? Fashion it out of rock, whittle it down.

[Dan LeBatard]

OG Is like, you know what I think would kind of feel good?

[Chris Cody]

Let's spice it up.

[David Sampson]

Just a little butt plug.

[Chris Cody]

Does this concept not blow your minds of the things that you had no kind of connection?

[Mike Ryan]

I love this category. I'm thinking of good one. I'm thinking of a Good one.

[David Sampson]

A lot of what comes my way is that we're now closer to 2080 than we are.

[Mike Ryan]

Guys, I'm trying to find out and you're not giving me the space to find out.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

I sounded like you were thinking of one and you didn't want to share it with us. You were just going to keep it to yourself.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought we were filibustering for you to think about it.

[David Sampson]

Sorry, I'm trying to be your partner.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm viewing my content. Spank Bank. This is a private experience.

[Chris Cody]

Spank Bank.

[Mike Ryan]

Share it with you guys later.

[David Sampson]

It's Florida. There's no Spank Bank.

[Chris Cody]

Well, there's ways around that with that attitude.

[Stugatz]

While you're thinking of one. Let me jump in. Right? Real quick. Talk about the Venmo bucket one more time. I just want to A little review from the week. David was fined on Wednesday for a phone interruption. Pablo also on Wednesday for a phone interruption. Mike on Monday, $2 for a throat clear. Greg on Tuesday for $2 for a cough. Dan made a mistake. Yeah, that was paid double. Izzy made a mistake yesterday. David had a phlegm today. There's $173 currently in our Venmo bucket. So this is very exciting.

[David Sampson]

What's the total?

[Stugatz]

For me, $22.

[Chris Cody]

Yikes.

[Mike Ryan]

Can I read to you guys from a text that Ryan Cortez has sent me? Speaking of people who are seemingly from a wrong generation interacting with those from a different one. Jimmy Butler and Pat Riley's meeting, according to the Athletic, has some hints of our Dan. Quote. Butler and Riley met in person on the afternoon of January 7th to establish some ground rules for how this messy situation would proceed. What followed, according to sources on both sides, was Instead an emotional two hour sit down that left Butler bewildered by his 79 year old boss's behavior and Riley at a loss for how to reach the mercurial 35 year old star. From Butler's vantage point, Riley was, quote, unhinged and disturbing, end quote, as a league source close to him described it. More specifically, Butler told those close to him that the longtime team president referenced Butler's recently deceased father several times during the meeting, offered unsolicited and unwanted parenting advice, and even shed tears before ending the meeting by telling Butler he loved him.

[Chris Cody]

Are we sure that wasn't Dan in the meeting?

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Oh, that tracks. That tracks. With a guy who's been doing this for so long he's aging, he wants to be able to connect or get his message across to Jimmy Butler, he's just overly emotional at the time. This is a man who has done all kinds of tactics in a locker room to get his team motivated.

[David Sampson]

Putting his face.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Yeah, putting his face in a bucket of ice until he couldn't breathe. So yeah, this is him just bringing it all out there, bringing all the emotion that this Jimmy Butler situation created and taking it out.

[Chris Cody]

You know what part of this is. Is exactly that is that Pat Riley has. Has a mythology around him. Right. And in his heyday, that mythology worked.

[Mike Ryan]

He's a genius.

[Chris Cody]

And now it's just the ramblings of an old man to the current generation. Right.

[Stugatz]

Miguel, the caller we heard earlier.

[David Sampson]

So he's done more than one thing. Pat Riley, genius coach and gm.

[Stugatz]

Do you think Pat. Do you think Pat Riley copyright holder.

[Chris Cody]

Do you think.

[Stugatz]

Do you think he puts a hedge.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Talking over each other.

[Stugatz]

Do you guys think he puts a hedge bet in on the Eagles because he's going to win so much money if the Chiefs win with three peat that he puts a little bet in?

[Dan LeBatard]

You're saying what would a genius bet on? Because you have a lot of money.

[Stugatz]

He's going to make X dollars with three people.

[Izzy Gutierrez]

Well, most of that goes to charity.

[David Sampson]

You don't.

[Stugatz]

I love the most if I'm Riley, I'm putting like 200k on the Eagles.

[Chris Cody]

So this either way you're win win.

[David Sampson]

Well, are you trying to have him then to win both by having the Chiefs win by one according to the current lines?

[Stugatz]

Okay, I was just thinking money line, but yeah, I like take the.

[David Sampson]

Take the chance. Then you can win by one. Yeah, that's genius.

[Stugatz]

He should. I mean, am I wrong though? You guys don't hedge with gambling. When you have like a big win over here, if this hits, it's a win. You hedge. No.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, that's your bet.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'm an emotional hedger.

[David Sampson]

I'm not a hedgerow. I want to win it all.

[Mike Ryan]

Are we. Are we almost done here, guys?

[Dan LeBatard]

What we need to do awards.

[Stugatz]

Oh, you know what? We have a little bit before the club. We'll check.

[Chris Cody]

We'll.

[Stugatz]

We'll treat our pre club as a little award session. Okay, Coming up next, awards and the club. But there's still 15 seconds, so I.

[Dan LeBatard]

Think you did that Chris Cody EP of the week.

[Chris Cody]

All right. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

All we gotta do is clap for eight more seconds. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[David Sampson]

You guys are geniuses.

[Chris Cody]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

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