The Big Suey: Statue Worthiness

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Statue Worthiness
Original Air Date: February 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Miami, this lively episode of The Big Suey explores the meaning and excess of "statue worthiness"—who should be immortalized outside sports arenas, and how franchises get it wrong (or right). Dan, Stugotz, and the crew blend their trademark Miami-centric humor and sports banter to debate the proliferation of statues, reminisce about chance celebrity encounters, riff on the most memorable ways sports enforce shame (think penalty box and red cards), and indulge in nostalgic and absurd pop-culture asides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carl Weathers Encounter & Celebrity Stories (00:39–03:36)

• Chris Cote recounts a memorable dinner at Bestia in LA, where he and his friend sent a drink to Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed). Weathers graciously thanks them—before cheekily adding another drink to their tab.
• The crew nerds out over the moment, referencing classic Carl Weathers characters and poking fun at themselves for fanboying.

Notable Quote

"And then we noticed Creed added another drink to our tab, which I thought was the greatest move I'd ever seen. ... What a nailed move." – Chris Cote (02:16)

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2. The NBA’s “Statue Inflation” & What Makes Someone Worthy? (05:17–13:07)

• The group pivots from recent NBA coverage to the Lakers' new Pat Riley statue. Dan questions whether so many people deserve to be immortalized, arguing for exclusivity:

"Statues should be like one, maybe two, maybe two. ... You have to make the hard decision who is statue-worthy and who is not. ... The Lakers, you guys are cowards because you give out statues to everybody!" – Dan Le Batard (06:09)

• Comparison to other arenas: Lakers vs. Celtics, Yankees, and Dolphins. The consensus is that too many statues erode the honor.
• The idea of a franchise’s "Mount Rushmore" arises—should every team solidify only four legends, ever, as statues? The debate includes the possibility of removing statues if new legends emerge.
• The panel jokes about laughably unworthy statues and the physical display/organization outside arenas.

Key Exchange

• [Dan:] "It's not my place to say who doesn't deserve a statue."
• [Chris Cote:] "Well, that's exactly what you're doing." (09:46–09:51)

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3. Franchise Statues: Hypotheticals and Cutoffs (13:07–15:13)

• The hosts brainstorm statues for various franchises, debating who among the Dolphins, Jaguars, and Panthers truly deserve a spot.
• Dan and Amin note you shouldn't "force" statues just to fill a quota.

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4. Coach Fashion & Classism in Sports (13:32–18:04)

• Pat Riley’s style inspires discussion about NBA coaches' attire—suits versus quarter-zips—and underlying classism on coaching staffs.
• Amin reveals assistant coaches often earn modest salaries:

"And the reality is ... from that third seat down, these people are making regular ass salaries, if not less than regular." – Dan Le Batard (16:32)

• Chris and Dave recall NFL/NBA coach dress codes and the league's resistance to individuality (e.g., Jack Del Rio wishing to wear a suit).

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5. Sporting Event Infamy – “Where Were You When…” (23:35–29:48)

• The roundtable highlights infamous live sports moments they'd choose to witness, such as Tyson biting Holyfield, the “Malice at the Palace,” and the AC-out Game 1 of the 2014 NBA Finals.
• Jeremy describes nearly being at ringside for a recent Heat-Grizzlies fight and the on-court fracas involving Scotty Pippen Jr. and Myron Gardner.

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6. Most Satisfying Sports Punishments & Shame Mechanics (30:14–44:14)

• The team debates which official sports punishment is the most satisfying—a compelling, often performative act of public shaming.
• Options include:
  • Penalty Box (hockey) – “the gold standard”
  • Red Card (soccer) – for the drama and suspense
  • Penalty Loops (biathlon)—an extra lap for missing shots
  • Flagrant foul reviews (NBA)—the tension of awaiting the call
• Favorite examples are relived, including the theatricality of FIFA referees and the drama of NBA reviews.

Notable Quote

"I like the bureaucracy of the red card." – Dan Le Batard (39:37)

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7. Odd Olympic Sports, Athlete Origins, and “Medal Worthiness” (31:19–38:19)

• The squad lampoons Olympic events like biathlon and bobsled, questioning how anyone realizes their talent for these obscure sports and ribbing athletes who cross over “out of nowhere.”
• Lively banter on whether it’s fair to award medals for sports that people can pick up suddenly and win.

Notable Quote

"They should not be giving away a medal for somebody who decides to play that sport a couple weeks ago." – Chris Cote (34:43)

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Memorable Quotes

• On Lakers statues:
  "Lakers, you guys are cowards because you give out statues to everybody."
  — Dan Le Batard (06:09)

• On franchise quotas:
  "If you want to honor somebody new, you gotta tell me who's coming down. We're going to pull them down, like when they pulled down Saddam's statue in Iraq."
  — Dan Le Batard (11:33)

• On sports shaming rituals:
  "I like the bureaucracy of the red card."
  — Dan Le Batard (39:37)

• On classism in coaching:
  "From that third seat down, these people are making regular ass salaries, if not less than regular."
  — Dan Le Batard (16:32)

• On quick Olympic stardom:
  "Isn't that a great story? No, it's an embarrassment. ... Then remove that sport from the Olympics."
  — Chris Cote (34:43)

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Important Timestamps & Segment Highlights

• Carl Weathers Story: 00:39–03:36
• Statue Worthiness Debate: 05:17–13:07
• Team Statues Cutoff & Mount Rushmore: 10:58–13:07
• NBA Coaching Fashion/Classism: 13:32–18:04
• Attending Infamous Sporting Events: 23:35–29:48
• On the Court Fights & Fracas: 25:26–29:38
• Shameful Sports Punishments: 30:14–44:14
• Olympic Sports Oddities/Medal Integrity: 31:19–38:19

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Tone & Style

The conversation is sharp, irreverent, and knowingly self-deprecating—characteristic of Le Batard’s comic-sports blend—with recurring inside jokes and playful interruptions. The show oscillates between pointed criticism (“Lakers, you’re cowards”) and pure goofiness (Carl Weathers antics, Myron as the classic nerd name). Sports minutiae and pop culture nostalgia are treated with equal gravitas (or lack thereof), making the episode engaging for diehard fans and casual listeners alike.

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For listeners seeking a blend of sports critique, Miami flavor, and unfiltered fun, this episode delivers on every front, posing a simple question: Who really deserves a statue—and who is just taking up space?

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry.

[Jon Weiner (Stugotz)]

I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan Le Batard]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

[Chris Cote]

That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Jeremy]

This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Chris Cote]

Well, I mean, we were having a good time talking about the puck and everything, but Amin said, too much hockey talk. This is off putting. Can we move on?

[Dave Dameshek]

They won the gold medal.

[Chris Cote]

Can we talk about something else? So Amin wants to move on. I. Listen, I'll take this opportunity. I love your sweatshirt, Amin. It's Apollo Creed. The Count of Monte Fisto. Great American hero himself. Right up there with Jack Hughes. I was once in downtown LA having a fancy dinner with my pal David Feeney.

[Dan Le Batard]

And with that Denny's right there on Figueroa.

[Chris Cote]

Bestia.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I've been a bestia.

[Chris Cote]

That is a fancy Italian, right? Yeah, some real high end Italians. We were. We were. We were seated there and then we knew how grand this place was when we looked up at the bar and we saw one, Carl Weathers, AKA Apollo Creed, dressed exactly like you would want him to be dressed. Black suit, black shirt underneath, looking cool

[Dan Le Batard]

as balls, like red, white and blue top hat.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, not like that. Yeah, I would, I guess. Yeah, now that you say that, yeah, that would have been an even cooler outfit. But either way, we were gentlemen and so we sent him a drink at the bar. Yes, can we get Creed. Can we send Mr. Creed a drink? And so. So the bartender accommodated our request. And a couple of minutes later, before we knew it, standing over our table was Creed himself. And he said, I just wanted to thank you gentlemen for the drink. And we swooned. And then we talked for 10 minutes or so about our favorite, you know, moments.

[Jeremy]

How many words did you let him get in?

[Chris Cote]

Maybe 9% of the talking. Then he went back to the bar to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you ask about Hurricane Smith?

[Chris Cote]

It didn't come up. And then we went back. Force 10 from Navarone did come up, though. He went back to the bar and finished that drink. And then, you know, an hour, hour and a half later, we went to pay our bill and. And we Noticed Creed added another drink to our tab, which I thought was the greatest move I'd ever seen. Yeah, of course, you do that. What are we going to do? Hey, hey, Carl. You know, we, We. We got the one round, not, not two. What? What? What a What a nailed move.

[Dan Le Batard]

Was he still there when. When you guys are okay?

[Chris Cote]

How great is that move?

[Dan Le Batard]

You should have gotten up to him and said, carl, you son of a bitch, and then just dab him really hard right there.

[Chris Cote]

Or, Or. What's the matter?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do it.

[Chris Cote]

Let's do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I Dylan? Who's Dylan? Who's Dylan?

[Chris Cote]

I mean, clearly I'm okay.

[Josh]

All right, the camera's in the right spot.

[Chris Cote]

Hold on, hold on.

[Dave Dameshek]

Gotta make sure we got a cinephile on the. In the production.

[Dan Le Batard]

There you go. Right there.

[Dave Dameshek]

Right there, Right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

Good job, boys.

[Chris Cote]

The CIA have you pushing too many pencils.

[Josh]

Cuts of Roy was amazing.

[Chris Cote]

All right, Amin, what do you want to talk about? You don't want to talk about the hot.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to talk more about Carl Weathers being basically Carl Weathers from Arrested Development. Like you guys. Were you guys about to throw something out?

[Chris Cote]

Like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, baby. You put some. Some broth with that. They got a stew going.

[Dave Dameshek]

Dave, you should have known better. This is the only way to distract Amin from doing any sort of sports talk is mentioned. Carl Weathers, he will follow that path. But I thought yesterday was an incredible.

[Chris Cote]

Wait a second. Okay, we can talk about your sports in a while. We're on Creed for the next hour now. Thank you, Mike.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's coming down the path with me. Let's go.

[Chris Cote]

We've connected. Please. Why get in the way of that? It's a lovely.

[Josh]

Let the men connect.

[Chris Cote]

I'm sorry, Mike. Please continue.

[Dave Dameshek]

Well, the NBA was really good. I know that might surprise you coming from me, but I'm into this Cleveland Cavs roster construction. I've just been. When it comes to James Harden, I'm just this wild pendulum that is swinging from one way. I can't tell if I like him or. Or if I think he's overrated. I think I. I've. I've said so many bad things about his career that in my mind, I kind of underrated James Harden because I. I was into that OKC Cleveland game.

[Amin Elhassan]

So. Hold on, Mike.

[Chris Cote]

Let me.

[Dave Dameshek]

Even in defeat, I was impressed with.

[Amin Elhassan]

I was going to say so. So an Oklahoma City team that didn't have two of their top guys and then a bunch of people out, they still get beat Pretty handily.

[Dave Dameshek]

Dude. It's a, it's a Sunday matinee in okc. It's hard to get up for that. I even know it's a defending champs. But that's a tough turnaround for James Harden and I think that he does in Oklahoma City.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think that's a tough turnaround for ok, Oklahoma City.

[Chris Cote]

Old home week.

[Dave Dameshek]

Old home week on a Sunday morning. Trust me.

[Chris Cote]

James Harden, career long Conor McDavid level loser in big spots. But now that he's old, now he's good now. Now we really got him going.

[Dave Dameshek]

But I mean, but I think the Cavs are an interesting team. And then I was into, you know, Sunday night basketball that they're, they're really trying to make a big deal over at NBC. You had Celtics, Lakers, and they sweetened the pot by making this Pat Riley day. And they carried the halftime ceremony that was honoring Pat Riley as he was given his statue outside of the Lakers arena. And I thought the NBA had a pretty good day. A shout out to their whole new broadcast partners. The day was chock full of good basketball and interesting matchups.

[Dan Le Batard]

The NBC Sunday night thing, this is a very specific. NBC basically wants to own Sunday night. And so their plan is from Sunday night Football, Sunday night Olympics, Sunday night basketball.

[Chris Cote]

Very clever. The way the schedule set up was, was optimal.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it's like 40 weeks out of the year. 40 Sundays are gonna be Sunday night. NBC Sports. And they basically laid stake to that. But why you mention statues? I wanna talk about statues. I wanna talk about statues that the Lakers put up. And everyone's like, oh my God, it's so amazing. Pat Riley got a statue. By the way, Pat Riley, incredible figure in Lakers history. Incredible figure in NBA history. Is he deserving of a statue? Yes. In the same way that Kareem is deserving of a statue. Magic is deserving of a statue. Kobe, all these guys. I'm going to be the one to say it. Lakers, you guys are cowards because you give out statues to everybody. Statues should be like one, maybe two, maybe two. And that's it. You gotta, you have to make the hard decision who is statute worthy and who is not. And you know what the Lakers have done? They just said, oh, if your jersey is retirable, you'll get a statue at some point.

[Dave Dameshek]

Is it a Lakers call or an arena call? Because I've been outside that arena and Luke Robitaille has a statue.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Luke Robitaille does have a statue.

[Chris Cote]

It feels like they're trying to cultivate a sort of Yankees in the outfield style destination for fans. Go and see all those statues.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, here's the problem. Yankees in the outfield. That is very regal. It's very well presented. It's organized crypto. It's basically like, just drop a place here, put the statues everywhere. Just throw one up. Hey, let's have that shack one hanging. There's no rhyme or reason. It is just. You're just dodging statues as you're trying to enter this building. And they're all just in the one entrance. There's a zillion entrances all around the building. They could have spread them out around like a circle a century guarding the arena. Nope, just throw them anywhere. Just throw anywhere, anywhere. Oh, by the Chick Hearn, you get a statue, too. Hey, Oscar De La Hoya, you get a statue, too. It's crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

I do agree.

[Chris Cote]

Oscar De La Hoya and Luke Robitaille and Wayne Ogretzky with Wayne O. Gretzky in la. Very strange. Ultimately, I mean, played wins in one other in another country, wins a bunch of cups, then goes and plays for other American teams. Why they would build a statue like

[Dan Le Batard]

a Joe Montana statue in Kansas City?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, it just doesn't make sense. Not like the statue thing is out of control. It's so gimmicky. Because the statue is supposed to mean, like, what was the first, like, real statue that we thought was Michael Jordan in front of the United Center? Like, oh, man, like, this guy's the greatest player ever. And then the Rockets came out with, like, a Hakeem Olajuwon plaque. Cause he doesn't believe in statues. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Right there. Even the Celtics, you say, oh, the Lakers have such a rich history. Celtics have a rich history. Right. You know how many statues they got outside of their building? One, it's Red Auerbach. The Bill Russell one ain't even outside their building. It's somewhere else in town.

[Dave Dameshek]

Tay Marino is a pretty sweet one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's fine. That's all right. Like, hey, like, if you got your

[Dave Dameshek]

one set, maybe two, I think Shula has one on the other side.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's fine. But when you get to, like, just statues everywhere, it's kind of ridiculous.

[Dave Dameshek]

I think that's a cutoff for the Dolphins franchise. Those two.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, Tyree Kill.

[Chris Cote]

Is there one that crosses a line, though? So wait, which ones? I mean, are you asserting don't belong? What's the worst statue out there in these United States?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not.

[Dave Dameshek]

Oh, well, in terms of merit, not appearance.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, well, we can have a different conversation about the quality of the Tom Brady one in Foxborough is an embarrassment. The head's too small. Like when you got the figurine of the Star wars people back in the day. The head on the hand solo originally was way too small for the rest of the figurine. Same thing happened to Brady.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I don't. I guess that's my point, Dave. It's not my place to say who doesn't deserve a statue.

[Chris Cote]

Well, that's exactly what you're doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, I'm saying I'm putting the onus on the team to say, hey, we can't give a statue to everybody.

[Chris Cote]

Mark Madsen.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've got two. We've got two statues we can put out. Who are the two? Who are the two? Who are your two? Lakers. The Lakers are cheating. Like, oh, I can't upset these guys. I can't upset those guys. Everyone's got to get a statue. That's the coward's way out.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, but you won't say the guy that doesn't deserve.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not my team.

[Dave Dameshek]

What's a cutoff for the Lakers?

[Dan Le Batard]

Not my two. You get two statues.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, you can't just have a standard law that you're. No matter how great your franchise is versus. Versus The Miami Dolphins, that you only get two. The Dolphins only have two people that are worthy of statues. In the history of the franchise, how many.

[Dave Dameshek]

How many do the Lakers actually have?

[Chris Cote]

The Lakers have to have Cody. Got to have Shaq.

[Dave Dameshek]

You got to have Kareem, and you got to have Pat.

[Chris Cote]

Magic.

[Josh]

Magic.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wilt.

[Chris Cote]

You must if you're going to start.

[Amin Elhassan]

Wes has the logo.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys don't need all these statues. The logo.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's got the logo exactly right.

[Josh]

Just based off of. Of American lore, American history, the way we do things here in America, it's four for every franchise. You're Mount Rushmore of your franchise. Each person gets a. I'll give you four.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what?

[Chris Cote]

I'm.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm a. I'm.

[Chris Cote]

If we want to standardize this, all

[Dan Le Batard]

right, I, I'll go with four. But they still got way more than four. They still got way more than four.

[Josh]

Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with you on the Lakers principle in particular, but that's a way to get franchises here moving forward. To be able to. To. To stick to a standard is if we only have four. And it's not like you could take one away.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, you can.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Chris Cote]

You want him to Be interchangeable.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you. If you're like, oh, my God. But this guy, like, using my example from earlier, this guy scored seven goals in the third period. How can honor him? All right, you got to tell me who's coming down. We're going to pull them down. Like when they pull down Saddam statue in Iraq. That's how we're going to do it.

[Chris Cote]

The universe is infinite. The universe is infinite. But the amount of soil available on the big blue marble is limited. And so the Pro Football hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio, can only build out so much. At some point, we're going to have to retract some of those busts and gold jackets. And I submit for the millionth time that the first one to lose his gold jacket is Bob Greasy. Bob Greasy has no business having a gold jacket. It's ridiculous that he has one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Over Joe Namath.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, yeah. Over Joe Namath. Joe Namath, who has the. The iconic victory of the super bowl era. Yes. Over Bob Greasy, who threw four passes in a Super Bowl.

[Dan Le Batard]

But they. They. They were undefeated.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, then. Well, let's put Jim Plunkett and Eli Manning and everybody else who's won a couple of Super Bowls in there, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

You are preaching to the choir when you say Eli Manning in the Super. In the hall.

[Chris Cote]

That's fine by me. So what. So what would be the Jaguars. Four statues. Don't have to be four.

[Amin Elhassan]

So we leave some Fred Taylor.

[Chris Cote]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, Tony Boselli.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jimmy Boselli for sure.

[Chris Cote]

There you go. You don't force him, and then we take him down when better Legends we're going to do. You don't force him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I'm with Chris. You don't. You know, when you got a statue guy, you can't just say, I'm going to make him a statue guy because I got a spot. No, you got to save that thing. Got to be. Wait a second. Something better might come along.

[Chris Cote]

So Dolphins would go. Zonka would be the third one, certainly. Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jason Taylor. I don't know.

[Chris Cote]

Color me underwhelmed. Jason Taylor gets.

[Jeremy]

Or Zach Thomas if we want to talk Panthers. Is it just Barkov right now?

[Dan Le Batard]

Ronda getson.

[Dave Dameshek]

Chucky, too.

[Jeremy]

Chucky already got one.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, around. No, look into it. There's a reason why a rat history is kind of turned its back on. These are.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. A giant rat. What. What. What I liked from the Pat Riley thing is I don't know how I feel.

[Dan Le Batard]

I.

[Chris Cote]

Cause then I feel like an old man for saying this. I dig where his head's At. Wear what you want on the sideline. You're a multimillionaire head coach and all of that. If you want to wear a sweatsuit, that's your choice. But if you want to look cool, go like Pat Riley and wear a suit. Of course I would do that. What would you wear? A meme.

[Dan Le Batard]

Classism. Classist.

[Chris Cote]

You are the head coach of the team.

[Dan Le Batard]

We are all a team. There's no I in team.

[Chris Cote]

So then wear the uniform like the baseball guys do.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's ridiculous. We're gonna wear these cool quarter zips and fitted pants and cool sneakers that are comfortable as opposed to some hard bottoms like I'm going to a funeral.

[Chris Cote]

A quarter zip. That's the first time I've heard it described as cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

The ones they have are cool.

[Chris Cote]

Utilitarian, perhaps, but. But. But not cool, you know, and you could express. This is something the NFL should do, too. And the NFL, like a decade or so ago, got in the way of doing it. A couple of coaches, Jack Del Rio and I think it was Mike Nolan, if I remember correctly, wanted to wear. They wanted to wear suits, and the league got in the way and they said, no, they're not Reebok approved. And so they had to wear some weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

So could. Could they wear a Reebok?

[Dave Dameshek]

That's what ended up happening.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Jack Del Rio get a statue, by the way?

[Amin Elhassan]

From who?

[Dave Dameshek]

Second to Coughlin franchise.

[Chris Cote]

It's him chopping wood. Remember the chopping wood incident? That was a. That was a great chapter in pro football history. He had. He had every win, I think it was. They would swing an ax in the locker room and he would keep. Gotta keep chopping wood. And then the punter tried to do it, and he almost cut his leg off.

[Dan Le Batard]

Happens. It's a contact sport.

[Amin Elhassan]

Didn't Urban Meyer kick the punter once? Or was that the kicker?

[Dave Dameshek]

Oh, in Jacksonville, yeah, I think was a kicker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sco.

[Josh]

Is it Josh?

[Amin Elhassan]

Scobie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Scoby. It was Scoby.

[Chris Cote]

Come on, baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is Urban Margaret a statue?

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, he. He just had his spot blown up again. Well, no, not the statute is more like it.

[Chris Cote]

Instead of statue, statute, Tashay gets it. He's got an old soul about him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right?

[Chris Cote]

You know? Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah.

[Josh]

Look, my blazer.

[Chris Cote]

You can personalize it. It doesn't have to be the exact same. It doesn't have to be a gray flannel suit. It could be whatever you want. Doug Moe. Doug Moe used to wear zany outfits, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

The plaid, the Crazy colors and all that. You should look up Hubie Brown in the aba. He had some crazy suits too.

[Dave Dameshek]

Jack Ramsey.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jack Ramsey. Oh, Dr. Jack for sure. The suit thing, I don't like it because, I mean, maybe I'm speaking from experience here, but like, because not all suits are created equally. And so if you looked at an NBA bench pre pandemic and you'd see people had very well tailored suits. And then as you go further along, you see the guys, it's just like whatever men's warehouse had on sale. And it's just like, who are the

[Chris Cote]

impoverished people on an NBA bench?

[Dan Le Batard]

The assistant coaches? This is, this is the. See, this is what, this is why we needed to do this, right? Because people assume that everybody working on staff is living the life. And the reality is your head coach makes a ton of money. Your associate head coach, who's typically been a head coach somewhere else, he makes a bunch of money. And then that stun, from that third seat down, these people are making regular ass salaries, if not less than regular.

[Dave Dameshek]

That's why they get to wear polos.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, now that's why we all wear polos. Classism. We're out. We're out on classist behavior.

[Chris Cote]

Well, you know, I'm not going to pay them any better to make the point about how you can distinguish yourself from your peers. You know, there was a guy named Bum Phillips, Wade Phillips, old man, Houston Oilers head coach from way back. He used to go out onto the NFL gridiron in a 10 gallon hat

[Amin Elhassan]

and he was 20.

[Mike Ryan]

He.

[Chris Cote]

Do you know when the Rams played the Patriots in the super bowl, whatever that was 10 years or the Jared Goff Super Bowl 13 to 3. I got in touch with Wade in advance and I said, honor, you know, obviously you and I both revere your old man. You should dress as Bum on the sideline for that game. The league stepped in and said, you're not allowed to do it. So he dressed, he wore his old man's jacket and hat and all the rest of it on the team flight. And really that's one of my great achievements.

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you keep getting credentialed? The league must hate you. You're such a rabble rouser.

[Chris Cote]

That's a great idea. I made it better. What are you talking about?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I'm not saying the idea is bad. I'm just saying the NFL, very staunch, very staid, very stoic. Lot of st words there. And then here comes Dave Dameshek in

[Chris Cote]

his circus of Great idea, right? I mean, they're curmudgeons and got in the way of it largely. But it's still, I think everybody celebrated it.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's my point. The curmudgeons. How do they keep saying, okay, credential requests for this next Super Bowl? Who we got here?

[Chris Cote]

Curmudgeons at the NCAA didn't like the idea of both USC and UCLA wearing their home jerseys against one another. So I got Pete Carroll and Rick Neuheisel on the phone at the same time on my old radio show and I got them to agree to accept 15 yard penalties for delay a game so that they could go back to wearing their home jerseys against one another. And they continue to do so to this very day. But that's weird, right? Not weird, great.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Dave Dameshek]

I win in the margins. I'm like. I'm like.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're money ball of sex.

[Dave Dameshek]

I'm basically Scott Hatterberg.

[Jeremy]

Stugats a lot of walks, but I'm

[Dave Dameshek]

on base when it comes to sex. A lot of foul tipping.

[Chris Cote]

Other.

[Dave Dameshek]

Other dudes. They can be Giambi.

[Amin Elhassan]

You know your role you play.

[Dave Dameshek]

I know my role.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[Jeremy]

To jump back to a conversation we were having last hour, I saw some somebody nominate like sporting events in history that you want to say you were at. Where does Tyson biting Holyfield?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, in there.

[Jeremy]

It's not Malice at the palace, but

[Dan Le Batard]

it's a good one. Do I get to catch the ear? Yes, that's one.

[Chris Cote]

The one that people talk about the most as the like the signature celebrity event to that point was the first Ali, Frazier.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh yeah. The Frank Lucas fight.

[Chris Cote]

If there's any fight.

[Amin Elhassan]

He never would have wore that mink. Damoshek. He never would have got caught. Why? Because they asked him who's that guy with the mink in front of.

[Dave Dameshek]

Am I cracking top 10 by saying I was at the Copa America final in which they were fallen from the AC vents.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. That was.

[Jeremy]

That was.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Jeremy]

I had a ticket and couldn't scan it because it had been run like run down.

[Dave Dameshek]

They destroyed.

[Chris Cote]

They were just led.

[Jeremy]

They were just. Anyone was walking in.

[Josh]

What is.

[Chris Cote]

I have a ticket. What is the number one. You've. You've attended? I went to. I think probably objectively speaking, not for my rooting interests. Being at the Malcolm Butler pick was proud. I was at 28 to 3.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

So were you at any sporting events that were infamous, not necessarily famous for how it played out on the field? Because a great game is a great game and that's a great moment. But chaos surrounding the game like malice at the palace. The, the Tyson biting the year the Copa America final. You have anything in that class?

[Chris Cote]

I don't. I was once when I was. When I was very young, I went to a Penguins Edmonton Oilers game and all the. The benches cleared and it was. I mean it was a bloody legitimate mess. And I remember the organ player playing on the. Playing Let there be peace on earth over as these guys. I mean it went on. It was protracted. It went on. People Were crying. I remember as a little kid, looking around, people were crying. It was deeply upsetting to people.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like the organ players. I've got it, Mike. I was at Spurs Heat Game 1, 2014 when the AC went out to Zach.

[Dave Dameshek]

That's a good one. Yes, The Cranfamus and that was a great game.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, I was at the lights out game. That's. I guess that's semi infamous.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good one, Mike.

[Dave Dameshek]

Well, Copa America, I think has to

[Chris Cote]

be it is that vuvuzela.

[Jeremy]

Jeremy was doing sideline for a Heat fight this past weekend.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

Scotty Pippen going after Myron Gardner. It was unbelievable.

[Jeremy]

As a silent reporter, Jeremy, I was looking. You got to get in the muscle.

[Josh]

So this is what's so funny. That was in my corner where I'm normally sitting, but with about two minutes to go, I get up and I walk over to the other side. That's where the sideline interview is going to happen for post game. Last couple games I've done, they haven't won. I've stayed in the corner. It wasn't even close. But this game, it was obvious they

[Dave Dameshek]

were going to win.

[Josh]

So I had just gotten up not 30 seconds before. I was standing right next to the Grizzlies bench as I hear everyone losing their minds. And I turn and see Myron Gardner headed to the ground because Scotty Pippen Jr. Has put his hands around his neck. And it was right after I had

[Chris Cote]

seen like, oh, Myron Garner. Yeah, he knocked him down on that three.

[Amin Elhassan]

And that wasn't cool there.

[Josh]

I'd seen the rebound. It was. It was nuts. I've never seen a fracas of that level at the Heats Arena.

[Chris Cote]

Fracas.

[Amin Elhassan]

I went to either Jose's last or second to last start before he passed away. Him and Kershaw, the duel between him and Kershaw. I was there behind the plate.

[Jeremy]

Just in hindsight, you're just trying to get in this game. But I don't really. But I count you guys. Tell me if I'm wrong.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're talking about infamous games, like a great game in history of a guy who died here. Do you care about Jose or no?

[Dan Le Batard]

I.

[Jeremy]

Of course I do.

[Amin Elhassan]

It doesn't sound like the Jersey around

[Jeremy]

here belong in this category though.

[Amin Elhassan]

What do you mean it doesn't belong in this category? It's a great game that gets forgotten.

[Jeremy]

You left the game and you're like, that was just a normal game.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, I didn't. Because I was like, wow, that was one of the greatest pitchers duels I've ever seen.

[Jeremy]

All right, fine. You can be in the game. I'm sorry.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's stupid. You.

[Chris Cote]

You know,

[Dan Le Batard]

Jeremy, the. The fight finally gives Myron Gardner something about him that's not. That's the guy that Karam Butler made apologize to Klay Thompson.

[Josh]

I love my Gardner.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now. He's the guy that got in a fight with Scottie Pippen Jr. But the play that preceded it that you kind of glossed over was a dirty play.

[Josh]

Absolutely.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because here's a wild thing. The only way I can describe it is it looks like he set a back screen for a Grizzlies guard who's going to dribble up court. There's no way. There's no reasoning if we're shooting at this basket for you to act like you're setting a pick into the back of a defender who's not even going in that direction.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

What.

[Josh]

What happened on the play was there was a play down at the Heat's end on the previous possession where when Myron Gardner and Scottie Pippen Jr. Were going up for a rebound, Pippen had. Had grabbed him and kind of thrown him to the ground on the rebound. And so Gardner gets up and after on the other end. Now, on the Grizzlies offensive side, Pippen shoots a three, and Gardner running back at close to full speed to the other side of the court. Instead of stopping short of Scotty Pippen Jr. Runs right into the back of him, stops, quote, unquote, but gives him a little bit of a chicken wing and hits him and knocks him to the floor.

[Dan Le Batard]

But his stance was of someone sitting a screen.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

As if you're on defense.

[Josh]

Yes. As if he needed to set a screen on Scotty Pivot Jr. Who I guess would have been running back the other way, if you want to make the argument.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sure.

[Josh]

That there was going to be pace the other direction. It wasn't like Myron Garner was upset. He made physical contact with Pippen. Pippen falls to the ground. Because you don't often get hit from your blind side in basketball.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then my favorite part, Pippin's on the ground, and you could see he has that moment of just like, let me compose myself. Then he looks at the ref, and the ref is like, play on.

[Josh]

That was the problem, by the way. The refs doing nothing about that hit or not calling a foul. There is the reason why Scottie Pippen then decides, all right, time to take this into my own hands, literally.

[Chris Cote]

Myron's a strong Name, by the way, we need to bring it back.

[Jeremy]

Great name.

[Dan Le Batard]

Myron is always. Look, I'm an aficionado of something we call the 20 CB. This is this era of television and movies that had the monoculture that was strong. And there were certain themes in the 20 CB, Dave, that were universal. Right. One of them is the concept of someone named Myron. Absolutely is a nerd. Myron is a guy who sounds like this, like, Myron's got glasses. Myron's a nerd.

[Chris Cote]

Myron Cape on sports. What about Chester? I think we need to bring that one back as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like Chester.

[Chris Cote]

That's a cool name.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chester is a cool name.

[Chris Cote]

Speaking of fouls, though, in basketball, I think that basketball's official method of punishment is a little underrated. I think it's pretty like we celebrate the penalty box in hockey is probably the gold standard of, of proper shaming within the game that. Go sit. Go sit in there and feel shame for a couple of minutes. I learned a new one though. A new candidate for best proper shaming method. Biathlon. In this thing, you know, I know it's all hockey now with biathlon is

[Dan Le Batard]

the one where you're skiing and shooting guns at the same time. The James Bond pretty much every.

[Chris Cote]

People say, what do you like better, Summer or winter games? All the winter games are ones that sort of came from things that you just have to do if you're in Scandinavia, right. To get around like. Like cross country skiing is like, well, that's how we get from here to there. And now let's make it a sport. But also we have to hunt for our. For what we eat. So now we evolve the gun play and all the rest of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I always get thrown off by some of these sports because I say to myself, how do you find out you're good at it? Like basketball, you go out to the playground and people, oh, he's pretty good. And they, oh, ooh, this guy's tall.

[Chris Cote]

Come over here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Football, like, oh, he's a big kid. Or look, oh, he's pretty fast. Whatever. Like every sport, even baseball, you go out there, you're playing stickball, whatever. Like, how do you find out? Man, I'm really nice at skiing and shooting things at the same time.

[Chris Cote]

Well, I think that's a part of your day to day. You grow up and you're out there like, we don't have anything to eat tonight. Hey, Seth, let's go out and see if we can find something. Then you go out with your gun and your snow, your cross country skis, and maybe you bring back a moose.

[Dan Le Batard]

You talk about origins, though. I'm talking about 20, 26. How did these people figure out I'm really good at it? They were hunting.

[Chris Cote]

I'm fascinated by exactly what you're getting at. I can go outside and miss the first thousand shots I take in basketball before one goes in. Like, okay, I'm improving now. What's the equivalent of that with the ski jump? How many bones would you have to break before you're like, I can land now. I can land on my feet now and just keep on going. Like, how do you ramp up to that?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, just repeated wipeouts. But the biathlon, the penalty is. They have something called a penalty loop. You have to take an extra lap if you miss a shot, which is just the greatest. That's right up there with the penalty box. Sorry, Tony, Go ahead.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, I was going to say, like, the. I feel like the dirty part of these kind of sports is like, they once had dreams to be, like, the main people at the main sports, but then they realized I'm not that good at these cross country skiing or, like, whatever events. I got to do something else. So I'm a good skier. And like, all right, they got a thing that I can shoot a gun with. And I'm like, all right, I think

[Jeremy]

I could do that.

[Amin Elhassan]

And the guy's there and he's like, oh, yeah, this is pretty cool. So he dedicates his, you know, three years after they told him, you're not going to be part of the ski team to do some other thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that's that. And then the other people I think of, like, that are the bobsled people.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, hey, I can't do anything. What can I do?

[Jon Weiner (Stugotz)]

Bobsled?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the bobsled. But like, bobsled recruits a lot of track athletes. Like, the ones who weren't good enough to make it, like, in the right.

[Jeremy]

If you're not steering it, it's just about being fast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

They were celebrating a guy on the US Team, Amin, to your point, who was, I think a Texas football player or something. And then he, like, they're like, I just, like, sort of as a hobby, got into bobsledding in the last year or two. Like, don't tell that story if you're a bobsledder, because it's an embarrassment to your sport. You shouldn't be able to decide to do it. You're a fake doing it six months later.

[Jeremy]

That's undercut the whole sport.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't you remember Lolo Jones? Like, Lolo Jones was this big deal. And then in track, she washed at all the events. And then she kind of was like a jerk and people really didn't like her or whatever. And then she resurfaced on a Winter Olympic team as a bobsledder. Because again, it's like, yes, this is a sport that I have zero experience at that. Like, within a short amount of time, if I have certain tools, I can be an Olympic.

[Chris Cote]

There was the long distance runner. I don't remember what specifically the event was, but in the Summer Games two years ago, there was the woman who was like, yeah, I'm a financial analyst. And then I decided to become a runner, and three months later, now I won the gold medal. Like, isn't that a great story? No, it's an embarrassment. Then remove that sport from the Olympics. Clearly, it is not up to snuff. They should not be giving away a medal for somebody who decides to play that sport. A couple weeks ago.

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[Jon Weiner (Stugotz)]

Don LeBatard what is the worst part of the life?

[Chris Cote]

Stugats the worst part of the life of what? This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan Le Batard]

Juju put on the poll. Should they be giving away a medal for a sport that you decided to play a few weeks ago?

[Chris Cote]

Well, they. Listen, I. We, we already covered this last week. I mean, but the bobsled people, we already had. You understand there's a. There's the two man bobsled.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

The guy who drives it and then the guy who pushes it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And it works and it goes fast and then like they complete and they cross the finish line and then they give out the medals for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Chris Cote]

There's no need for a four man version.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course there is.

[Chris Cote]

Clearly we have this. We have. We have exposed that you only need two people for this to work. Of course, we don't need the second and third guys except me. So they get medals.

[Dan Le Batard]

You do need those two extra people. Because if it weren't for that four man bobsled where two people don't have to do anything, then us jokers here would have never been on a bobsled before. We got to ride the bobsled in the Olympic Village in Salt Lake City because we got to sit in the seats where you don't have to do anything. Which I guess is proving your point. I could be an Olympian and I just don't know.

[Chris Cote]

That's the silver lining. Why are we. What do we do with ourselves?

[Dan Le Batard]

Silver. A gold lining.

[Chris Cote]

We have four years winners around here. We have four years to get it together and become us luge or bob sledders in the meantime. So basketball. So you have the penalty box you have the penalty loop. Basketball is a little underrated in my book. What's your favorite official shaming mechanism?

[Dave Dameshek]

The red card's pretty good. Yeah, because it's pretty weird. Yeah, it's pretty weird. Like, we have this color coded system. I'm going to present you with a card. You're gonna have a big emotional reaction to it, and you're gonna have to walk off the pitch dramatically.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the thing about the red card is there's a massive buildup to it. Like, people say, oh, it's just like a technical foul. The difference is, in the NBA basketball, technical foul is immediate.

[Dave Dameshek]

It's like, right, you have the suspense of what color is it gonna be?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because it's this. It's like, first of all, the guy's all the way across the field, so the ref's gotta run over there. And then. And then he slows.

[Chris Cote]

He's looking in his pocket, he's going for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He always slows down before he gets there. And he's like fiddling in the back. Like, where does this thing. And then he pulls out that little wallet where the card is, and then he's opening it up and then it's like, which one is it? Big reveal. And then he pulls it out. And then he doesn't just like, flash it to him. He's got to go, wow.

[Jeremy]

Like, it's a middle finger.

[Dan Le Batard]

Rah. And then after that, I don't know if they still do this. I know they used to do this. I got to write it down. What's your name again? Turn around. Okay.

[Dave Dameshek]

The right number.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like the. The bureaucracy of the red card.

[Dave Dameshek]

It's a performative deal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Absolutely.

[Chris Cote]

But they don't get to keep it though, right? They don't, like, here's your yellow card. Carry it with you the rest of the day.

[Dave Dameshek]

They get a free sub at Quiznos.

[Chris Cote]

They should do that. That would be a nice little move

[Jeremy]

that would enhance the shame nuisance.

[Chris Cote]

You're not allowed to touch the ball with your hands. If you know the soccer rules. You don't get to use your hands on it. So. So. But. Right, yeah, just you have to run around with that thing the rest of the game. Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got the ref like the joker. Just a bunch of calling cards that he leaves.

[Jeremy]

Maybe the jersey has a slot and your chest.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeremy]

So now you're like, if you have a yellow card, you're running around with

[Chris Cote]

a yellow scarlet ladder, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's a yellow letter.

[Jeremy]

How do we feel about the. Does the umpire Strike three. Fall into this. Or are we talking more?

[Chris Cote]

No, no, no. I'm talking pun.

[Amin Elhassan]

I love a little.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get it.

[Chris Cote]

The basketball. Well, you get the equivalent of the yellow card in. In our football is obviously the yellow flag, which is thrown in your direction. You know, NFL. It's just.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I like. No, but I like the flag when it's like. Like when something egregious has happened, the ref would be like, oh, no. And he just talks it in the air like that.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I like when they go for

[Dan Le Batard]

the belt, like, throw that up in the air. I do. Like Roy was miming it to me. The NBA referee. Cool. Technical foul. Joey Crawford. You do this where he doesn't go with the full hand, just with the fingers like that. There's a little dismissiveness in that. Oh, you thought you could say that. No, you can't. Technical foul.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. If we have time, we can get into that this week. We have a long week ahead of us, and baseball's upon us. We should figure out which. If you were going to the pen, if you're the skipper and you're going out to pull your pitcher, what's your move to the pen? To let everybody in the ballpark know that you're going to the lefty. I think that baseball.

[Josh]

You want us to just percolate on that idea and bring it back to you later?

[Chris Cote]

Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, It's. It's. It's a rich idea. We'll do hours on that. I agree, Tashay. I think that basketballs is underrated, that you have to, like, oh, foul. Now you have to stand there out there. Just stand there right in the middle of the floor. Right. Right on the side of the floor. While. While your victim just stands 3, 4ft away from you and just shoots. Just stand there, stare at it. How's that make you feel? Criminal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not as criminal as the review. When you get a flagrant file and they got to review it because, again, it brings back from soccer the buildup in the anticipation. What are they seeing on that screen? What is seeing? I didn't see. And then you're trying to watch up on the screen, you know, big screen, like. And then you're looking at their body language, like, are they going to see that I didn't mean it or whatever. And then the ref comes and he adjusts the microphone. If you're Billy Kennedy, you do a whole production. You're like, the offending player undercut the. The offensive player on a layup, which is deemed excessive and inappropriate. Contact the player has been ejected for a flagrant 2 foul home team ball. Like he, he, he tells it like it's a story. And if you're on the wrong end of that story, that story sucks. Right? You're like, oh, come on, Billy, what are you doing?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, some guys lead with like the top line information is the players ejected and here's why. This is a personal foul and here's why. And then, and then the detail. Don't, don't lead it up. I'm not here for you, for your storytelling.

[Dan Le Batard]

What.

[Chris Cote]

Just let me know what's going. I like it. One of the best parts of an

[Josh]

NBA broadcast is seeing Bill Kennedy.

[Chris Cote]

Not if you're rooting for the team. Not if you have a team involved in it.

[Josh]

Oh, you don't like the anticipation of that?

[Dan Le Batard]

What if your guy is the hero of the story? Turns out then that whole build up gets to this crescendo and you're like,

[Josh]

yeah, especially if the announcers have anticipated. So, like the play by play and the color guy are talking like, oh, well, that's clearly going to be a flagrant foul on our player. He's likely to be ejected. Like, I can't believe this is going to happen. And then Bill Kennedy tells you this whole long winded story that ends with the punctuation mark of actually, your guy's still here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, to play the game, the, the,

[Chris Cote]

the, the review that feels like it should have been a part of a different century or something is, is that they look at a player's face to see if he's, if he's bleeding. In hockey, like two minutes or five. We got it. We got to determine if they drew blood. Extra minutes like Wes McCauley, four minutes. Then we all cheer, yay, our guy's bleeding. We get five minute major.

[Dave Dameshek]

So anyways, I think the Cavs are going to be a threat in the East.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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