The Big Suey: Stutter Island

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — The Big Suey: Stutter Island

Date: March 17, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Tony Reali, Jonathan Zaslow, Chris Cote, Mike Ryan, Evan Silva, Jeremy, Kurt Signetti, various show regulars

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of "The Big Suey: Stutter Island" captures the signature blend of irreverence and insight for which the Le Batard crew is known. From on-air confusion about their self-invented games to deadpan analysis of NFL moves, the episode delves into sports happenings, playful personal stories, and sharp commentary on corporate culture and wealth inequality. The hosts also riff on the challenges of name pronunciation in sports media and the surreal experience of Miami nightlife.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & SEGMENTS

1. "Looks Like" Tournament Bracket: Comic Takes on Sports Figures

[02:13–05:16]

• The show opens with their annual “Looks Like” bracket, humorously assigning analogies to sports personalities:
  • Tim Kurkjian: “Looks like what Steve Carell will look like when he's really, really old.” — Jeremy [02:13]
    • Surprise: The hosts fact-check their ages, finding a 6-year difference, not the huge gap the bit implied.
  • Adam Silver: “Looks like a pissed off lighthouse.” — Jeremy [03:04]
  • Nick Wright: “Looks like a Geico caveman.” — Jeremy [03:18]
  • Kurt Signetti: “Looks like an actor playing Kurt Signetti.”
• The playful banter continues with participants debating the accuracy and “meanness” of each comparison.
• Memorable line:
  • Dan: “You guys are so bad. To Adam Silver that's playing.” [03:10]
  • Evan Silva (re: Nick Wright): “Feels personal toward Nick Wright.” [03:38]

2. NFL Free Agency: "Top 5 Something or Nothing"

[05:16–14:12, 16:26–27:54]

• Segment Theme: The group ranks notable NFL free agent moves as “something or nothing."

• Confusion over game format:

  • Tony Reali: “Wait, are we doing something or nothing here or is this a top five?” [06:55]
  • Zaslow, “It’s a top five of something or nothing!” [07:00]
  • Running joke as the segment devolves into chaos—no one is sure what the bit is supposed to be.
  • Memorable Line:
    • Dan: “You lose your music.” [07:52]
    • Jonathan Zaslow: “OK, I'll do it acapella. That's fine.” [07:55]

• Highlighted Free Agency Debates:

  1. Justin Fields to the Chiefs:
     • Tony Reali: “Couldn't be more of a nothing.” [06:37]
     • Dan: “You say it's a nothing right up until Andy Reid starts using him correctly.” [06:39]
  2. Bradley Chubb in Buffalo:
     • Dan: “I'm gonna say that's something... he'll be a good piece for them.” [08:15]
     • Evan Silva: “I think it's nothing… it didn't mean anything, you know, so I'm going nothing.” [08:35]
  3. Travis Etienne pronunciation/change of teams:
     • Travis Etienne appears as a recorded guest to clear the air on his name’s pronunciation—“Achan,” not “Etienne." [10:17–11:09]
     • Chris Cote: “I wanted to have fun with that, and that made me sad.” [11:09]
     • Tony Reali: “Does it make you sad that Hall of Famer Tony Perez… his name is Donnie? He never corrected anyone.” [11:11]
     • Branches into a theme about the Americanization of names in sports.
  4. Romeo Doubs (Dubs/Dobbs) and Kyler Murray’s changes:
     • Dan: “I thought his name should be pronounced Dobbs.” [16:33]
     • Conversation evolves into the impact of skill position talent, especially at QB in the NFL.
  5. Tua Tagovailoa in Atlanta:
     • Lengthy debate about value, financials, and the “something or nothing” criteria.
     • Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz): “It’s all nothing. When he's at the minimum… there’s no risk.” [18:33]
     • Tony Reali: “But what about… if either of these guys, if they play well, all of a sudden both of those teams have the greatest value thing… a cheap quarterback.” [18:56]
     • The group gets philosophical about the nature of “success” and “something” in sports.
  6. DJ Moore in Buffalo:
     • Dan: “That's got to be a something, right?” [24:07]
     • Tony and the group debate whether DJ Moore is a true upgrade over Stefon Diggs.

3. Name Pronunciations & Sports Media

[10:01–13:28, 16:33–17:14]

• Travis Etienne details years of his name being said wrong; he gave up correcting people (“…it just kind of stuck and made sense… now I kind of love that.” [11:09])
• The crew reflects on Tony Perez having played his entire Hall of Fame career with the wrong first name on public record.
• Chris Cote: “Now that I think about it, we’re doing this with my name as well. It's French: Cote.” [12:43]
• This morphs into a rapid-fire discussion of other athletes and cultural adaptation.

4. Cornfield Horror Sound Game

[22:12–27:24]

• A comical tangent: Tony Reali describes being in a cornfield at midnight and hearing “this sound”—referencing a weird mouth-noise someone made earlier. Group imagines the horror of it.
  • “I just start running.” — Kurt Signetti [22:59]
  • “Not funny in any way. The opposite of not jogging.” — Dan [23:03]
  • “Like if you told me that’s what the Blair Witch sounds like, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.” — Evan Silva [23:47]
• The joke ties into the episode’s title, “Stutter Island.”

5. Corporate Pay & The David Zaslav Debate

[37:41–41:24]

• The group unpacks Warner Brothers Discovery CEO David Zaslav’s enormous payout ($887M after layoffs and a merger with Paramount)
  • Tony Reali: “It’s absurd when they’re firing people. And it points out yet again, this is how business is done in America.” [37:55]
  • Le Batard Show Producer: “Of course he’s getting that money. Look at the value that he created.” [38:41]
  • Tony: “You’re going to be the only person in the media arguing on behalf of [him].” [41:24]
  • The back-and-forth highlights perspectives on corporate greed, CEO compensation, and the ever-increasing gap between executives and laborers.

6. Miami Nightlife (Strip Clubs and “Free Lunch”)

[35:01–37:33]

• The cast relays personal anecdotes about South Florida strip clubs, with Chris Cote and others sharing stories of card declines, famous athletes, and the legendary “free lunch” signs.
  • Dan: “Sat there and was confused as nude women started dancing around him because he was just there for the prime rib.” [37:20]

7. Randomness, Show Inside Jokes, and Ownership of the Cyclones

[42:24–44:47]

• The Cyclones, a highlight (jai alai) team that members of the show own, gets hyped up for an upcoming YouTube audience event.
• Banter about who’s actually running things, what the management titles mean, and whether Ethan is really a “vibes guy.”

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On the “Looks Like” Tournament
  • “Looks like a pissed off lighthouse.” — Jeremy, on Adam Silver [03:04]
  • “I mean, he does. That's just… it's in… it's indisputable.” — Dan, on Nick Wright resembling the Geico Caveman [03:26]
• On NFL Free Agency Chaos
  • Tony Reali: “Wait, are we doing something or nothing here or is this a top five?” [06:55]
  • Jonathan Zaslow: “It’s a top five of something or nothing!” [07:00]
  • Dan: “You lose your music.” [07:52]
• On Cultural Erasure in Sports:
  • Travis Etienne: “But when I went to college, I kept telling them my name… they just couldn’t get it. So I’m like, man, it’s Etienne. Like how you see it…” [10:17]
  • Chris Cote: “I wanted to have fun with that, and that made me sad.” [11:09]
• On Corporate Greed and CEO Pay:
  • Tony Reali: “This is how business is done in America. The CEOs just get to cash in on things like this.” [37:55]
  • Le Batard Show Producer: “Of course he’s getting that money. Look at the value that he created.” [38:41]
  • Tony: “You’re going to be the only person… arguing on behalf of David Zaslav deserving $887 million.” [41:24]
• Miami Strip Club Stories:
  • Dan: “He was just there for the prime rib. Didn’t know.” [37:20]

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• Opening “Looks Like” Tournament: [01:53–05:16]
• NFL Free Agency “Top 5 Something or Nothing”: [05:16–14:12], [16:26–27:54]
• Travis Etienne and Name Pronunciation: [10:01–13:28]
• Cornfield Horror Sound Game: [22:12–27:24]
• DJ Moore/Stefan Diggs Discussion: [24:07–25:49]
• Miami Strip Club Anecdotes: [35:01–37:33]
• David Zaslav Payout & Corporate Wealth: [37:41–41:24]
• Cyclones Highlight Team Discussion: [42:24–44:47]

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TONE & STYLE

The tone of this episode is classic Le Batard: satirical, fast-paced, and filled with overlapping voices, often blending serious analysis with absurdist bits. The panel oscillates between earnest discussion (cultural identity, NFL labor dynamics, sports media failings), bickering over semantics, and storytelling that’s both personal and revelatory.

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SUMMARY

For listeners, this episode delivers a rollicking mix of sports culture, media critique, and comedic chaos. Not only does it capture the chemistry of the cast, but it also offers an unvarnished look at both the trivial and the substantial in how sports and media intersect with modern life. Whether discussing the right way to say a player’s name, weighing the merits of an NFL signing, or dissecting the absurd math of CEO compensation, “Stutter Island” stands out as a blueprint for why this show remains a unique voice in the sports podcasting world.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony Reali]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Tony Reali]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just

[Dan Le Batard]

walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

[Tony Reali]

if they're just there.

[Dan Le Batard]

That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Evan Silva]

I've done it.

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[Chris Cote]

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[Tony Reali]

Whoa.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

That can't be right.

[Evan Silva]

Quick pitch worve.

[Tony Reali]

Let's update some more of our looks like tournament here because we've got to go through about 70 of these before this thing gets going too much this weekend. So number five Vanderbilt in our tournament. Number five Vanderbilt is represented by Tim Kirchen.

[Jeremy]

Looks like what Steve Carell will look like when he's really, really old.

[Chris Cote]

They're like three years apart.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

That can't be true.

[Chris Cote]

I swear we looked at him. This was written by Tim. Tim Kirchen gave us this one.

[Tony Reali]

That can't be true, though.

[Chris Cote]

Look it up. I believe they're very.

[Evan Silva]

I think Corel's older than we think,

[Chris Cote]

but I'm telling you, they're closer than you think.

[Kurt Signetti]

Tim Kirksen is 69 years old. Steve Carell is 63 years old.

[Chris Cote]

So six.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Six years.

[Chris Cote]

But still though.

[Kurt Signetti]

Oh, that's still really close. Saying that he looks really, really old.

[Tony Reali]

So that's Vanderbilt. They're playing against McNeese. That's a 12 seed. And that's represented by Kurt Signetti.

[Jeremy]

Looks like an actor playing Kurt Signetti.

[Tony Reali]

I can see it. Number three, Michigan State. God, their style is ponderous.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just all defense again.

[Tony Reali]

Michigan State is represented by Adam Silver.

[Jeremy]

Looks like a pissed off lighthouse.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

He's so good.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys are so bad. To Adam Silver that's playing.

[Tony Reali]

Number 14, North Dakota State, which is represented by Nick Wright.

[Jeremy]

Looks like a Geico caveman.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, he does. That's just. It's exactly like. It's in. It's indisputable. The south region begins Thursday.

[Tony Reali]

St. Mary's is represented by this laugh from Sampson.

[Evan Silva]

Feels personal toward Nick Wright.

[Chris Cote]

No, no.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

But if. I assume if he sees this, it would make that so angry.

[Evan Silva]

So.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

But it's so exact.

[Tony Reali]

The seven seed, St. Mary's is represented by Pastor Olney.

[Jeremy]

Looks like the dad who doesn't want to confront another parent in the carpool line, so he flips them off under the steering wheel.

[Evan Silva]

I could see that.

[Tony Reali]

My dad does that to police officers.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whoa.

[Kurt Signetti]

Who hasn't?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Hey, who hasn't given the finger to a police officer?

[Chris Cote]

Like you just like to live dangerously.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I haven't.

[Tony Reali]

St. Mary's is playing against number 10, Texas A and M, represented by Adam Silver.

[Jeremy]

Looks like a knitting needle.

[Evan Silva]

Yeah, that one I like.

[Tony Reali]

Number four, Nebraska in the south region, plays 12:40pm on Thursday and is represented by Bo Nix.

[Jeremy]

Looks like he's a quarterback on a cw. Teen drama about high school football.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That one's too accurate, man.

[Tony Reali]

That is playing against number 13, Troy, represented by Joe Maurer.

[Jeremy]

Looks like the guy who loves to tell you he still prefers to do all his banking in person.

[Evan Silva]

So.

[Tony Reali]

Dan, I am so lonely every time

[Dan Le Batard]

I walk into a bank.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Of course you've taken whatever David says to the bank. It's like, hey, can I. Can I get you what?

[Tony Reali]

It was Adnan who kept taking.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Nah, David does it too. David says, take that Skippy to the bank or whatever.

[Chris Cote]

David says you're combining like three of his.

[Dan Le Batard]

You bet your bippy became Skippy is taken to the bank.

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Yeah, whatever.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That kind of thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg Cody's not in today.

[Tony Reali]

He will be in with us tomorrow. We will have Greg Cody around here tomorrow. But let's get to Tony's Top five free agent, something or nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

So let's see what we have here.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right. The NFL. It never stops, Dano. Even when it stops, it doesn't. And we have an Oli four deep of something or nothing attached to our top five. Are you ready to go?

[Tony Reali]

I am, but I'm just seeing this Trump quote on Cuba quote.

[Jeremy]

Not again.

[Tony Reali]

Cuba in its own way. Tourism and everything else. It's a beautiful island, great weather, not wrong. They're not in a hurric zone, which is nice for a change. They won't be asking us for money for hurricanes every week.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay? You can't be right about everything.

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All right?

[Kurt Signetti]

That's the guy I want running my ancestral homeland.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's always in a hurricane zone.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It is a hurricane zone.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's given Cuba no thought. He's thought about nothing other than whether he could put hotels there. Man, is he going to be surprised when he's got to put shutters on it.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

What do you think Marco says when he sees that, doesn't he? Isn't he like. Hey, don't. Do you have any idea how many hurricanes are in Cuba?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oli number one. Justin Fields, something or nothing. He's a Kansas City chief now.

[Tony Reali]

I broke that news yesterday during the show with a breaking news sound, and

[Dan Le Batard]

everyone yawned in my face.

[Tony Reali]

Couldn't be more of a nothing.

[Chris Cote]

Really?

[Tony Reali]

You say it's a nothing right up

[Dan Le Batard]

until Andy Reid starts using him correctly.

[Tony Reali]

Andy Reid's the new Belichick in terms of if he gets your guy, your guy's been nothing, but you fear him when he gets in that uniform.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So something then.

[Tony Reali]

I would say that I finally know

[Dan Le Batard]

who a Chiefs quarterback is.

[Tony Reali]

A backup other than Chad Henney.

[Evan Silva]

Wait, are we doing something or nothing here or is this a top five?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a top five of something or nothing.

[Evan Silva]

Feels like we're doing something or nothing.

[Chris Cote]

Confusing. Zaz. I'm with you.

[Tony Reali]

Zaz wants a clarification, and I don't

[Dan Le Batard]

think it can be both.

[Tony Reali]

Can it be both?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It can absolutely be both. What are you talking about?

[Chris Cote]

You want me cut the bed?

[Evan Silva]

I think we're doing something or nothing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a top five of something or nothing.

[Tony Reali]

Well, judge. Well, no, but he's the judge. I don't care about him. We're going to let Szaz decide as the judge. He's going to make a ruling on this. And it sounds like he kind of already has made.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's with prejudice, though. How can we take that?

[Tony Reali]

Well, he's the judge on this. We've said that he can be the judge on these things.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All rise. The honorable Jonathan Zaslow now presiding with prejudice.

[Evan Silva]

Is this a traditional top five list or are we doing something or nothing? We're doing something or nothing. Prejudice.

[Dan Le Batard]

You lose your music.

[Tony Reali]

Now you got to do it with. No, you got to do.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, I'll do it with no music. That's fine. That's fine. I'll do it acapella.

[Evan Silva]

What about that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes, we could do that if you

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still want to have the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, we can do the. Yeah, if you want, but we're.

[Tony Reali]

We're gonna.

[Dan Le Batard]

Or if you could just put Samson Sound at the start of the hour where it is.

[Chris Cote]

All right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Bradley Chubb in Buffalo. Something or nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm gonna say that something. Their pass rush is plenty good without him, and he's going to be a good piece for them. So I'm going to make that assumption. Are you going to make it assumption? They're paying him more than the Super Bowl MVP is being paid in Kansas

[Tony Reali]

City to run the football.

[Evan Silva]

I think it's nothing like. Didn't they try this with Bosa last year?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I feel like he was all right.

[Tony Reali]

He was good for them.

[Evan Silva]

And the year before, didn't they do with Von Miller and he was all right. No, I understand, but it didn't mean anything, you know, so I'm going nothing.

[Tony Reali]

So it's only not.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's only something if it wins you the championship.

[Evan Silva]

Well, yeah, like that's what Buffalo's trying to do.

[Tony Reali]

Okay,

[Dan Le Batard]

again, David, he's got nothing for me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, perfect. He's got nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

At least he didn't make a noise. No, he did make a noise. That was he. He did it again.

[Evan Silva]

That was the sequel.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stop this, all right? Cut it up. No, but it was just. It was just that. It was just this. It.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Minor penalty.

[Tony Reali]

Two minutes.

[Evan Silva]

Fart came out of your mouth.

[Tony Reali]

A fart came out of his mouth

[Dan Le Batard]

is what happened there. That was him. That wasn't Chris Cody playing that sound.

[Kurt Signetti]

It wasn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it was him.

[Tony Reali]

He.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Without taking notes.

[Kurt Signetti]

I really thought he played the sound.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he. It squeaked live out of his mouth and says, that's the sequel. But then he stopped himself and it went.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Gone.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was poof. He didn't want it to come out. It came out. He saw it there and he tried not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I laid out for him. I was like, all right, Dave, you

[Chris Cote]

got something here,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Fart?

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, keep going.

[Chris Cote]

You were taking notes, Jeremy.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Yep.

[Chris Cote]

Added to the arbitration case, Travis Hn,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

who's Now a New Orleans saint. Something or nothing.

[Tony Reali]

Let's play that sound. Travis Etienne. We've all called him Travis Etienne, but he is now in New Orleans and he's a free agent acquisition. He goes from Jacksonville to New Orleans, and he says, we've all been saying his name wrong since college.

[Travis Etienne (guest)]

So growing up Travis Hn. So it'd be like, ach a n e. And that's how you always said Travis Hn. But when I went to college, I kept telling my. Telling him my name, like, every day. Every day, Every day. And like, after, like, four weeks, they just couldn't get it. So I'm like, man, it's etna. Like, how you see it is how you say it. So. And that's how that became. And it kind of took off because it was easy for the pronouncers to say it. I didn't have to just tell them. I had to correct them every day to say my name. And just when I kind of just started learning more about my last name and how it came about and things like that, it just kind of stuck and made sense. But I'm very much open to being Travis Achan again, just being myself. I don't have the correct people here on how to say my name each and every day, and I kind of love that. And that's just. Just get back to me.

[Chris Cote]

I wanted to have fun with that, and that made me sad.

[Tony Reali]

Does it make you sad that hall of Famer Tony Perez played his entire career being called Tony even though his name is Donnie? He never corrected any.

[Evan Silva]

Really?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

No. But that's like Milan and Milano.

[Tony Reali]

No, no.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Roman Roma.

[Tony Reali]

Nope. Nope.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

His name is.

[Chris Cote]

No spelled T o n Y. Nope.

[Tony Reali]

It. It's not. That's. It got Americanized. It's like Antonacio or something. It's Donnie. It's not Tony. It's not Tony. His name is not Tony Perez. It's not.

[Evan Silva]

How does he introduce himself even today?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Tony Perez.

[Tony Reali]

He is Tani. He is Tani. I'm not. I'm not making that up. I'm not making that up. They got his. They got his hall of Fame plaque wrong. He never corrected anybody. He just changed his name to Tony and started calling himself Tony on behalf of others because he didn't want to

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

explain it every time, but that's totally fine. It happens all the time. Dan. There are people. This is totally different. What he's saying is when you can correct a last name pronunciation. That's not a pronunciation issue. Tony and Tani, those are two different names. I Can just as easily say Tani as I can Tony. Just say it's tiny.

[Tony Reali]

But when.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I would have called him Tony.

[Tony Reali]

But when Chris is saying it makes him sad. He hasn't been. He's gotten tired of correcting people. We've all been saying his name wrong. Etienne. We've been. We have not been calling him a Chan. That's the first I'm hearing that his name is a Chan. It's the first any of us are hearing that his name is a Chan. We've all gotten his name wrong. The same way we did with Tony Perez.

[Chris Cote]

You know, now that I think about it, we're doing this with my name as well. It's French. It's Cote.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

And what about this Boston Red Sox number two starter, Jeremy. What's his name? Just signed.

[Kurt Signetti]

I don't know.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Ron.

[Tony Reali]

Her. That's going to hurt you in arbitration right there, which is okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You didn't know that I was honest. Red Sox number two supposed to be your strong.

[Chris Cote]

I honestly thought it was a guy named Steve. I don't know.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

We thought it was Ranger Suarez. Ranger? You've called him that you shouldn't because.

[Tony Reali]

That's right. I thought Bayo was their second starter.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Bellow that he may be their fifth. That's nice that you can name him. They changed his name. He recorrected how to pronounce Tiny. Tony is not a pronunciation atn Et on. That's pronunciation Zaslava.

[Tony Reali]

Would you like to hear the sequel of David Sampson limping to the microphone?

[Kurt Signetti]

Of course,

[Evan Silva]

the sequels are not always as strong as the original, but it's still good.

[Chris Cote]

You're right about that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're a movie guy.

[Kurt Signetti]

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[Dan Le Batard]

All day you've been waiting to get quiz.

[Kurt Signetti]

Thought we were talking about Sonny Gray.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was going to give you he. You've been wanting to talk baseball for months, and what he does is he looks to you and he says, number two.

[Chris Cote]

Jeremy, you're my guy here.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did that to you because you did Putin to him. Yeah, I feel bad to him. And now he lashed out at poor Jeremy.

[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

US residents oh wow, it's in there.

[Jeremy]

It's better.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Think I haven't been practicing.

[Tony Reali]

Stugart.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't realize we had a substitute. Complicated legacy brought to you by headquarters

[Jonathan Zaslow]

441 power line road second down to nine.

[Tony Reali]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Number five, Romeo Dubs Something or nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought his name should be pronounced Dobbs.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Dobbs Dubs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dubs Cry Tawny Number four Number four.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Kyler Murray, Minnesota Something Nothing.

[Tony Reali]

Mike Ryan was arguing on behalf of the packers skilled guys, their receivers specifically. I didn't think that Dobbs was much of a number one. I don't think Watson is a number one. Dobbs changing teams. How much money did he end up getting?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

About 68.

[Tony Reali]

You guys think that's a something or nothing?

[Evan Silva]

Says I Think it's something. Yeah, I think it's. I'm. I'm interested in what it looks like. So I. Yeah, I think it's interesting.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think. I think Drake may needed somebody who is better than who they had, which is. You can't name anybody like Sean Booty or whatever, Romeo Dubs, the guy who's going to be there day in and day out and do his stuff. The problem is, like we said the other day about the packers receivers, everybody was a B. They didn't really have an alpha like devonte Adams like they used to have. So it's like this is another guy that's going to be a better, better a B plus in a room full of Cs.

[Tony Reali]

Wait a minute though. Chris Cody has a fair criticism of Tony's football announced.

[Chris Cote]

Dobbs is going to be there day in, day out and do his stuff.

[Tony Reali]

That is not great analysis. But Kyler Murray has to be something because if for no other reason, JJ McCarthy has been told that that plug has been pulled very quickly. Like that's, that is a. That is a decision that Minnesota made to move off of J.J. mcCarthy. Now maybe he'll get another chance, but he's lost what was his opportunity.

[Evan Silva]

I mean, they did fire the general manager who drafted him. So. Yeah, like the writing's on the wall there. And the Murray thing, like that's a story. That's gonna be a story every week, all season long. So that's definitely something.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

But you're paying him the minimum. What's the difference? It's like bringing in. It's like the Falcons bringing in Tua and all of a sudden making it the lead story. Whether or not he or Penix will be. It doesn't matter.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Number three, tua, Tug of Iloa in Atlanta. Something or nothing.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

It's all nothing. When he's at the minimum, it definitionally it's not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's nothing unless he's getting paid 150 million.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

That's my, That's. No. Yes. My view of something. Nothing is financially related. If a guy, if you bring him in on a flyer at the minimum, there's no dead cap issue. There's no performance issue. If two is a turd or throws an interception or does anything. See you later.

[Tony Reali]

No, but, but what about David? You're. You're discounting that if either of these guys, if they play well, all of a sudden both of those teams have the greatest value thing that you want in that entire sport, which is a cheap quarterback.

[Evan Silva]

You should love that. That.

[Tony Reali]

That is Something that is absolutely a something. If you can get the greatest thing that there is in that sport, value at that position.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

It's the horseshoe argument where something and nothing are right next to each other. I absolutely agree with what you're saying, which is why you want people on the minimum. Because there's no risk. The whole purpose of it, the reason when you have the four year deals with guaranteed money, there's way more pressure on the gm, there's way more pressure on the coach to get something out of that.

[Evan Silva]

But isn't there potential huge reward for

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

everybody on the minimum? There's no difference between TUA and Kyler and anyone else.

[Tony Reali]

That's not true. No quarterback at the minimum is more valuable than all the other positions at the minimum.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

If you're getting great, play quarterback pre extension. Any quarterback pre extension is overvalued and you want to try to win with that quarterback.

[Tony Reali]

If I tell every single team in that sport, I can give you one thing and only one thing to start your franchise, what do you want? They would say give me a great cheap quarterback.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

But Tua and Kyler Murray are not that.

[Tony Reali]

Well, I mean, we don't have flashes. We don't. We don't know. Kyler Murray might be that in Minnesota with those skill guys we don't hit. Justin Jefferson was the best receiver in the league until he wasn't last year. And I thought that was an indictment of J.J. mcCarthy, not Jefferson.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

You don't get to be the best and not the best. That is the nature of baseball. When a great player has a bad season. If Ohtani doesn't win the MVP or Aaron Judge doesn't hit 60, are you changing your evaluation of that player?

[Tony Reali]

David, that's an individual sport. They're responsible for their own metrics. You're alone in a batter's box. A quarterback requires a receiver.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Daniel, I'm not going to have changed my evaluation of Tua if all of a sudden he takes over for panic.

[Tony Reali]

I don't think anybody listening to this thinks that Justin Jefferson is worse. They say J.J. mcCarthy can't play because that's what Justin Jefferson looked like with him.

[Evan Silva]

Yeah, because it's a dependent sport.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

But what do you say about tua?

[Evan Silva]

Oh, I mean, I don't think he's any good anymore.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

So then how is it something something

[Jonathan Zaslow]

because he's buoyed by skill position players that he didn't have in Miami after Tyreek Hill got hurt. But now you're looking at Bijan Robinson, Kyle Pitts, you're looking At Drake London, you're looking at an incredible set of skill guys that, if they can get the offense right, like Tua, could be very, very successful in a dome playing against a bad division.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Wow. So you're impugning the Dolphins personnel. You're not in any way regarding Tua and his skills.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I thought that when. When they had the best personnel available, they were the best offense in football under Mike McDaniel. And then, you know, obviously, as the skills regress, Tua also regressed. And that's not only offensive line, that skill position, and that's his own play. But the problem is you go in a change of scenery that Dave, you've seen it a thousand times over the years. You have a guy who doesn't play well in San Diego. All of a sudden he shows up in Minnesota and he's playing great ball. Like Tua maybe just needed a change of scenery to another place that the weight of the world, the weight of the franchise isn't on him. He's getting paid the minimum, and all of a sudden he's like, all right, I can play. I can sling the pill.

[Evan Silva]

I actually think it's a nothing because I don't think he's any good, and I don't think it's going to work.

[Tony Reali]

I want to ask the group, though, something without any context, okay. Don't take into consideration. Just try and make your mind totally blank. Don't think of how David looks. Don't think of any history that you know of David. Don't think of the shirt he's wearing. Don't think of anything David related. I just tell you that I'm walking at midnight, okay. In a cornfield. Okay. And I'm a little scared. I'm a little worried because I don't know what is where, and I'm a little haunted by midnight cornfields. And this is the sound that I hear from a little bit of a distance. Horrifying, correct?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You gotta start.

[Kurt Signetti]

I just start running.

[Chris Cote]

Yes, that's right.

[Evan Silva]

Automatic running.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not funny in any way. The opposite of not jogging. You. So, okay, I'm walking through and I'm already spray. I'm a little bit scared.

[Tony Reali]

And there's some rustling and I stepped on a twig.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And you already kind of got nervous.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, there's. But there's no light. There's no light. It's cornfield.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. And I don't know the size of this thing, but it's out there somewhere.

[Chris Cote]

I think I'm going to bring this to my house around Halloween Time.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Is there a loop sound that you would hear in the cornfield that wouldn't make you scared like a bird whistling?

[Tony Reali]

Many, many sounds are scarier. It's a fair appraisal by you, but

[Dan Le Batard]

very few are gonna be as scary as this. Cause this is demonic.

[Evan Silva]

Like, if you told me that's what the Blair Witch sounds like, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Been a rough day. That was funny.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Number two, DJ Moore in Buffalo something. Or.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's got to be a something, right? Like, that's got to be a something.

[Tony Reali]

You got to like DJ more. More than Stefan Diggs. He. He really hasn't had a number one in a minute.

[Evan Silva]

Right?

[Tony Reali]

Like somebody who felt like a number one to you.

[Evan Silva]

I think we forget Stefan digs had a really good season this past year. Like, DJ Moore is not going to be that. I. I think it's nothing.

[Tony Reali]

You think Stefan Diggs had a good year with the Patriots, though?

[Evan Silva]

Yes, this past season. Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

Okay, but. So you think DJ Moore is going to be nothing? Like, you don't DJ Moore in. What DJ Moore did in Carolina, to

[Dan Le Batard]

me, is the number one was more

[Tony Reali]

impressive than anything Stefan Diggs did this year with.

[Evan Silva]

And he had the one really good year in Chicago, too. But last year, I could see last year being the year that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So hold on. He was so good with the Patriots that they cut him after a season?

[Evan Silva]

Well, no.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And then got brought in Romeo Dubs.

[Chris Cote]

No.

[Evan Silva]

You got to add some context there. Like, Stefan Diggs, a ticking time bomb.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like, we know he's also a ticking time bomb in play too. Like, he hasn't been able to get separation. He hasn't had his. His ability to go nine route.

[Evan Silva]

Like 80 plus catches this last.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He did.

[Evan Silva]

But DJ Moore's not getting the 80 catch.

[Chris Cote]

Drake may was great.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's like, he was again talked about in the MVP race until the end of the year where it completely fell apart.

[Tony Reali]

What happened with the Bears was weird, though, because their skill guys were good and they decided, ah, never mind about DJ Moore and A. Dunes A.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're just gonna throw it in the

[Tony Reali]

seam all the time now. Like, we're not.

[Dan Le Batard]

In the middle of the season. They decided, never mind about the Adunes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He got hurt, though, to be fair.

[Tony Reali]

But they're like, we're just gonna throw

[Dan Le Batard]

it to these two guys.

[Kurt Signetti]

That was the best advice that Matthew Berry gave us, was that after the bye week, the Bears were going to start using Luther Burden and Colston Loveland more than anybody else. And that's exactly what Happened.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Is there a pair in the NFL more than Luther Burden and Colston Loveland that sound like R and B singers. That's a good Luther Burden R and B singer. Colston Loveland R and B singer.

[Tony Reali]

We have been. Those are good. We actually should do that game. We should do the game of people in sports who have the most R B singer names. We've been pounding David here pretty good in terms of making fun of him, and he says that I'm no good at making fun of myself. So why don't you play for the people? How it is that I tried to say J.J. mcCarthy. J.J. mcCarthy. Not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you want to go Jameson there in the middle.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Well, also wanted one.

[Chris Cote]

What? What?

[Evan Silva]

You can't tell from the auto.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He.

[Chris Cote]

Mid.

[Evan Silva]

Mid pronunciation. He looked at me for confirmation.

[Tony Reali]

J.J. mcCarthy. Not the little can hear the term J.J. mcCarthy. Not J.J. mcCarthy.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Not if I'm in a cornfield and I hear that I'm running, that that

[Jonathan Zaslow]

person has obviously escaped from a mental institution.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not the same thing at all. Wait a minute.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Yes. No, that's a person saying it. My noise could be something that I could step on. No, your noise is no Shutter Island.

[Tony Reali]

No, no. It's stutter.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not what my mind is just somebody who's got a speech. Bravo, Dan. Thank you.

[Tony Reali]

Academy Award goes number.

[Dan Le Batard]

Number one.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Number one. Dano. What seemed like a big deal, but is actually a one year, $60 million deal. Mike Evans, something or nothing for that San Francisco team.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I.

[Evan Silva]

For a second, I thought we were doing big deal or not a big deal.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Something or nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a totally different game.

[Chris Cote]

Felt like Tony forgot his game there for a second.

[Tony Reali]

No, I'm just.

[Chris Cote]

There was a gap in between the sentence, and then he's like, oh, wait,

[Dan Le Batard]

yeah, it's a big deal. Not a big deal.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But it wasn't a big deal or nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Or is it a top five?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I meant the contract was a big deal. Was thought to be a big deal. There you go. Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

It does sound like it was big deal or not a big deal.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

This is too much.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Kurt Signetti]

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[Tony Reali]

Bring his ass on here. Where's the Ruiz Is a great question. Stugats running huh? He running today, huh? I'm ready. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Mike Evans last year played in eight games. So Mike Evans that's the first season he's ever had. That's not a thousand yard season, right?

[Evan Silva]

Yes.

[Tony Reali]

So he comes into the league and as a first round pick. And Johnny Manziel was supposed to be something in terms of an impact player akin to what Mike Evans was. Mike Evans goes to Tampa and is a number one receiver the entire time. Is it 12 years?

[Evan Silva]

I think it was 11. This was the 12th year. Maybe.

[Tony Reali]

So he went 10 straight. He. No one's ever done that before. Right. A decade of thousand yard seasons every season.

[Evan Silva]

That's the first start your career.

[Tony Reali]

That's. But that's the first time that.

[Evan Silva]

Yes.

[Tony Reali]

Jerry Rice never had ten consecutive thousand yard seasons.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Tony Reali]

But not to start a career.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Tony Reali]

Because J.J.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

who clip it?

[Tony Reali]

Jerry. Jerry Rice had to have had 10 straight seasons of a thousand yards. It just wouldn't have been to start a career. But are people assuming he spent now because after 11 years most receivers are going to have the season on the decline.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Is there a correlation between the size and length of the goodbye that you give to your old team and now where we're going with that? You are. Did you see Mike Evans and what he did In Tampa, it was. It was Tolstoy. He left a book. Say it's too much for a one year deal when you're going like 10 years, 300 million leaving your home.

[Tony Reali]

Wait a minute.

[Evan Silva]

He signed for three years?

[Tony Reali]

He signed for three.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's why I said it was a bigger deal. But San Francisco can get out of it after 1 because it's 3 for 42. Which is why I said big deal, 3 for 42, but it actually ends up being a 1 for 16.

[Tony Reali]

It sounds like that's big deal or not a big.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, but big deal contract wise, I

[Evan Silva]

don't think you know how Big deal. Not a big deal.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't think you know what I'm doing. Thank you. Jerry Rice, by the way, had 11,000 yard seasons in a row. The only one that was not was his rookie year where he had 927. So it would have been 12. Then he got hurt and then he had another thousand yard receiving year at 37. He also had a thousand yards at 40.

[Evan Silva]

He's a good player.

[Tony Reali]

Pretty good.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

It's back when a thousand meant something. Meant way more under Jerry Rice than it does today. Way more.

[Chris Cote]

Jimmy Foxx.

[Tony Reali]

That's pretty good in terms of rhythm. That gives off rhythm and blues. Jimmy Foxx. Jimmy Foxx is a what. What year are we talking about as a baseball player? Are we talking about 1940s?

[Kurt Signetti]

He began his career in 1925 and it ended in 1945.

[Tony Reali]

Okay, so Jimmy Foxx is that. You went into the 80. You went into a library from 80 years ago to find just the right.

[Chris Cote]

Got a big library here, Dan.

[Travis Etienne (guest)]

Oh, for.

[Tony Reali]

For an R B singer. Jimmy Foxx. It's pretty good.

[Kurt Signetti]

Someone in the chat submitted Mo Ali Cox and Tyler Warren, who are both tight ends for the Colts. Ty Warren and Mo Ali Cox.

[Tony Reali]

I don't like Ty Warren. I like Mo Ali Cox in almost all circumstances.

[Chris Cote]

Is there a game we could play where we don't like Mo Ali Cox?

[Tony Reali]

No, that name. That name sounds like a song. That's the syllable count on Mo Ali Cox. Sounds like something that's delightful.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

It sounds like stage four. Come to stage four. Mo Ali Cox, Adult film industry two.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I didn't know stage four can. That was.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I didn't know where we were going there, Tootsie.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Stage four. Don't. Don't drop on me that none of you have seen Stage four, Tootsies.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I've never been there.

[Chris Cote]

Hey, David. David.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

You've never been to Tootsies?

[Evan Silva]

Oh, no. Let me be.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let Me be. Let me be clear.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Thank you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I've been outside.

[Chris Cote]

His wife's listening.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I've been outside. No, she doesn't. I've been outside. I actually saw Money Mayweather there pop out of a Bentley with like, 20 guys from TMT. The problem is my car got declined. I couldn't go in there.

[Chris Cote]

I saw.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a little embarrassing to have happened.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

My phone died too. So I was like, what's going on here? But then I realized that the place that we went to prior to, they overcharged my car. They charged me twice. So it took all the money out of my account because I didn't have the credit card at the time. I was very young, and all of a sudden I go in. They're like, hey, your car got declined, buddy. You got to go outside. My phone dies. My friends are inside, and I'm like, guys, what do I do here? So I had to wait outside for, like, three hours until they got out of four in the morning, and they were like, what happened to you? And I was like, I got stuck. But I saw Mayweather,

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

the only guy who spends three hours on the curb on the front end.

[Chris Cote]

Honestly, Tootsies sitting outside is the spot to be. That's where I saw Luol Dang last

[Evan Silva]

time I was there, I got there before opening. Had to wait in the parking lot for it to open.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

They closed.

[Evan Silva]

So we can go in. Me and Brett Romberg sat in the park.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Nice to say who you were with when you go to.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, please.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It was that nvirk. He took me, the entire production staff that was there.

[Evan Silva]

It was after our show one morning. We got done at 10:00am we're like, let's. Let's go to Tootsies. And it wasn't open yet. We had to wait in the parking lot for like an hour. I think it opens at 11.

[Chris Cote]

Let's do that today.

[Evan Silva]

We got in.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

We want it.

[Kurt Signetti]

We got in.

[Evan Silva]

We sat at the bar. Sat at the bar. We were having a good time.

[Chris Cote]

Free lunch.

[Evan Silva]

Guy sat right next to me, ordered a lobster.

[Tony Reali]

That's Scarlet's, I think I've told you guys. I told you guys this story. It's a. It's a true story. My father, Cuban exile, four years on his way to work, kept driving past a place that simply had on the marquee free lunch. Free lunch. Did it for years. Didn't know it was a strip club. Goes in one day just to have the free lunch.

[Evan Silva]

I want to have free lunch.

[Tony Reali]

Who wouldn't? Didn't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Sat there and was confused as nude women started dancing around him because he was just there for the prime rib. He's like, this place has been offered free lunch the entire time. I'm going. I'm going to go in there and see if they mean it. Did not know.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I can't believe you brought that story.

[Tony Reali]

I'm not making that.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

That's what every father would say to his son.

[Tony Reali]

Now, my.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I had no idea.

[Chris Cote]

I believe Poppy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

My father's perfectly capable of this. We were talking about Tony not having money, but I wanted to talk about the latest story that's got people really mad. David Zaslav. No relation to Zaslo.

[Evan Silva]

Well, yeah, no relation because it's not the same name.

[Tony Reali]

The Warner Brothers Discovery CEO. Because of this Warner Brothers Paramount merger, as they're laying off so many people, he's going to get $887 million in payments. There's the $34 million cash severance, and then there's $517 million in unvested equity awards, 335 million in tax reimbursements. It's absurd when they're firing people. And it points out yet again, this is how business is done in America. The CEOs just get to cash in on things like this. This pleases you, right, David? To see this person walk away with all of this unearned money.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Do you know what happens when companies are suffering and layoffs happen? Is the head of the company takes a pay cut every time? Obviously, that's how it always works. When there's issues at a company, the head guy takes a pay cut. Give me a break. Of course he's getting that money. Look at the value that he created. Where's the conversation of all the shareholders who are so happy that they got taken out by Ellison and by Paramount that they cashed in? They are loving it.

[Tony Reali]

It's grotesque.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

No, it. So you call your broker and you say, do me a favor. Find me some losers. If you don't mind if I meet the people who pay their employees the most. I want to invest in that company. No, no. The shares go up in price. No, no, I don't want that. I want to know where the employees get paid the most.

[Kurt Signetti]

Now they can buy one of those high rises in Cuba.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Is that what you ask that your financial Advisor to do? 5 is some losers.

[Tony Reali]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

What was that?

[Tony Reali]

When? I don't know who that was. I don't know what. That was an impersonation of you calling

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

your broker, saying, don't make me Money?

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Tony Reali]

But Meadowlark, when it was founded, I remember skipper saying the CEO here will never make more than 15 times more than the lowest paid employee. It's not a thing that will ever happen like that. We were trying to keep that as some kind of reasonable within what you do for your least paid worker and what laborer and what you do for

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

your most paid worker until you realize that's not realistic. And that was the end of Skipper and that's the end of that desire here at the company. Because that's not how companies are running. It's very nice to say that desire

[Tony Reali]

and it has nothing to do. Why is the least money and what's 15 times how much you make?

[Chris Cote]

15 million?

[Evan Silva]

That's what I'm trying to figure out right now. In my head too, I was in the same thing.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

You came up with some random equation where all your guys are now doing the math, trying to ask each other, wait, you get paid 30 grand? That's it? All right, 15 times. Oh, my God. That's how much we pay you.

[Tony Reali]

No, there was no salary in the company more than a million dollars. There would not be more than a million dol.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

And it was me.

[Tony Reali]

Point.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Are you willing to say that Metal Arc Media and Warner Brothers Discovery may be different?

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, they are different. But what I'm talking about is the what's happening in America right now. What is happening in America right now with the billionaire class and the have nots is a bigger distance than we've. That we've ever had between the people who work for a company as laborers and the people who are at the top of the company. You're going to be the only person out here, Dave, that's in the media arguing on behalf of David Zaslav deserves $887 million. You're going to be the only one saying that.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I may be the only one saying it, but I'm sure as heck fired out the only one thinking it. And that's just how it goes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Tony Reali]

What do you mean? You're not the only one thinking it. Just the billionaire class is going to be thinking it. Only people who do business at the top end of ridiculous sums of money are going to be supporting that amount of money for this clown who's run this thing.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Can you go through what they are because. Because. Did you hear what unvested equity is? What is that to you?

[Tony Reali]

You want me to give the number?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I just want to know if that's cash to you, like, because you claim he's getting 800 million in cash. So I just want to make sure we at least tell the audience the cash severance.

[Tony Reali]

I already said this. The cash severance is $34 million. And the unvested equity awards at 517.2 million.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

How do you get such an exact number on Unvested Equity?

[Mike Ryan]

It was a ball. It was absolutely a ball.

[Tony Reali]

It was Mikey.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. It was 3 inches too low and it's insane.

[Jeremy]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

That this is a conversation now. I don't think we should have fired off 36 penalties in the name of it. But you were wrong.

[Tony Reali]

Where you been?

[Mike Ryan]

Had an event at my daughter's school and then a lane closure on the 8:36. But it looks like I walked in at the right time.

[Tony Reali]

How was it? How was the event?

[Intuit TurboTax Announcer]

It was great.

[Mike Ryan]

Coffee, donuts. Pictured my daughter writing a book about me. That said my favorite hobby is watching Highlight, which it's up there. Speaking of, you got a watch party this week?

[Tony Reali]

We do.

[Mike Ryan]

Tomorrow we are going to introduce our audience formally on YouTube. YouTube.combatardshow to a cyclones game. And the entire Cyclones brain trust will be here walking you along. The world's fastest game. Live from our studio, simulcasting from the casino Miami Fronton. We will be electric. As electric as a backcourt. Wide shot from Manu, the world's greatest backcourter.

[Tony Reali]

Are you still in first place?

[Mike Ryan]

We have a game in hand. I think we're trailing the Chargers because they played more recently than us, but just like a half a point behind.

[Tony Reali]

Are there going to be any special guests or just going to be the ownership group of.

[Chris Cote]

We're efforting for Joey.

[Mike Ryan]

The Cyclones brain trust is a draw. You know Tony. You don't know Mike Fuentes, reigning defending champions. And we're giving Ethan a microphone. That's right.

[Intuit TurboTax Announcer]

What?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What is he in the Brain Trust?

[Kurt Signetti]

What is his job?

[Mike Ryan]

He's a vibes guy.

[Tony Reali]

No, don't do that.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Do you have a title with the team?

[Mike Ryan]

We have two.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

What is your. No, no, you are. That's a good one.

[Chris Cote]

Miss me?

[Tony Reali]

They're owners. They're the owners. We're the owners of the team. They're the owners and general managers.

[Chris Cote]

We're coming.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Are you the executive vice president? Are you the chairman? Are you the CEO? Do you have a title?

[Chris Cote]

I'm one of the Cs.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, you are C. Their owner and general manager. Both of them. They are the management team.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Co owners and co general.

[Mike Ryan]

You're looking at the GM of the

[Evan Silva]

year

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

as voted by who the league.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, their peers.

[Chris Cote]

Don't worry about it.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

Their peers. I think it's awesome.

[Mike Ryan]

Votes for Roll AIDS Relief man of the Year.

[Tony Reali]

I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

They just give it out.

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I had no plans tomorrow at 2:45 and now I've got plans.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you want to be our special guest?

[Le Batard Show Producer (possibly Stugotz)]

I'm going to be back in New York, but if you'll let me zoom in, because there's two things I don't know in the world of sports. I don't know the rules of cricket and I don't know the rules of highlight. And I. And I'd love to learn.

[Tony Reali]

David Sampson, we have a clock here that you're supposed to respect. Mike, this is what you missed. This was David Sampson's first communication on our show today.