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Dan LeBatard
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Stugotz
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to.
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Mike Ryan
The other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.
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Stugotz
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
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Dan LeBatard
I've done it.
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Mike Ryan
And now here's the marching man to.
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Stugotz
Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
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Mike Ryan
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
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Stugotz
One of the things that probably bears noting as it relates to Baker Mayfield is he's also been very lucky this season. He has been reckless. He's got nine turnover worthy plays in 13 quarters. Like there are going to be games. It's not going to matter in that division. That division so bad that the Dolphins might get right against that division because they get to play against the Saints in Carolina.
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Dan LeBatard
This is slightly where like this is my biggest point of contention. And I mean I'm sure the audience can read through it because of how pro Baker I am. This is where PFF is flawed. Yeah, turnover worthy. I guess the ball that he fit between two defenders closing in on that ball to a Booker was turnover worthy. It was also a fricking touchdown because he's got a laser arm.
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Mike Ryan
Is that how they do it? Like if it's. It could be the smallest window and the pass is completed because he threw a literal perfect pass, but because it was dangerous, it becomes turnover worthy.
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Dan LeBatard
Baker's time with the Browns was when I learned in hearing people defend the merits of Baker is there is such a thing as a healthy amount of interceptions because he'll go for it more. He'll stretch the field more. And in watching that game, Tampa became very predictable on offense. They have their identity. It is clear. Baker, save us.
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Stugotz
Forgive me though for trusting PFF slightly more than your eyes and your bias. He throws some passes and I've seen several of them this year. The DBs have just dropped. It's not perfect passes for sure. It's not perfect passes. It's like how did that ball not get picked off? I see that in the league all the time. It leads me to start today, to start my pro football talk today with and what I thought was the biggest play of the entire Sunday that I saw all the plays. Adonai Mitchell, the Colts receiver that produced what is to me the single greatest instance I've ever seen between an extraordinary excellent play turning into a profound stupidity. I know desean Jackson has done this three different times.
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Mike Ryan
How are we still doing this?
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Stugotz
The Sean Jackson did it three different times. One of them was in an All Star game before he ever got to the pros when he tried to do a somersault before the goal line with the ball and put the ball down on the one yard line.
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Dan LeBatard
Six.
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Stugotz
Well, he did. We could get that video. We don't have the rights to the times that he did it in the pros because he did it twice in the pros where he dropped the ball to celebrate before the goal line. But the play that Mitchell made before the stupidity. I'm going to try and describe it for you because I had to keep rewinding it to make sure I saw it right. He's running down the field. This is a 75 yard play. He's running down the field between two defenders. He catches the ball with just the inside of his right elbow. Like I don't even know how it got stuck there. It got stuck there from a long distance he caught it with just his right elbow. He's wearing gloves. This is comedy, okay? He's wearing gloves to secure the football and as he gets to the one yard line, it slips out of his hands and it goes through the end zone and in a panic he tries to recover it and recovers it after he's out of the end zone. The Rams get the ball at the 20 yard line. The difference between the Colts and the Rams today is that play. And while I believe the Rams are ram tough and I believe the Rams are going to be more formidable in the playoffs than the Colts are just because they have Stafford, who I know late in games is going to do things late in games that I don't trust Daniel Jones to do late in games. No matter how you try and reinvent Daniel Jones for me and no matter how well you coach him up. There were three teams in the league that went into the games yesterday with no turnovers this season. They were 9, 0. Those teams that had no turnovers. All of a sudden the Colts have a couple of turnovers and they have the play at the goal line. There was no bigger play yesterday because I believe the Colts and the Rams are good teams. I believe they are good football teams. And you just can't have explosive plays be that rare in that sport. Touchdowns be that rare in that Sport. And your 22 year old receiver catches the ball with the inside of his right elbow, inside of double coverage for a 75 yard run. Except he only run 74 of them with the football because as he goes to put the ball over the goal line, it wasn't even what desean Jackson does. Like, I understand what you're saying, Zaz, when you're saying how does this still happened? But what's happened previously is guys drop the ball before they get over the goal line, drop it casually to be cool and swagger into the end zone. He was just trying to put the ball over the goal line. Like he wasn't even doing something. That was super showy. He didn't need to do it, but all he was doing was trying to put the ball over the goal line. You got to assume that human being trusts his hands to do that.
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Dan LeBatard
It was a little showy, but he was kind of toeing the sideline a little bit. So you can probably rationalize it. This is the first instance where I've seen sheer panic on a player that wasn't even able to really celebrate the unbelievable play that he made because it wasn't just catching it with the crook of his elbow. It was hitting circle on the PS2 controller after that and making that play was an unbelievable plan. It's also like one that is weird to get on a guy for because they're only in that position due to an unbelievable individual effort. It's almost scientifically impossible to have his gloves that grippy with the ball after touching his skin. That's obviously he's sweating because he's running and have the ball come out of his hands. That's almost physically, scientifically, mathematically impossible.
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Stugotz
It is really hard to have your elbow be.
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Dan LeBatard
You felt those gloves, right, Dan? Then your hands had him to score a touchdown, too. Oh, unfortunate.
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Stugotz
Oh, no, no. There were a number of people who I felt for watching what it is that I was watching over the weekend and we'll get to that over the course of the show. But there was also a funny play in the Bills Saints game and oddly with the great witching hours we've got, as the witching hour began yesterday, the only one score game was Bill Saints.
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Dan LeBatard
Okay.
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Stugotz
A game none of you. You're not a Spencer Rattler.
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Dan LeBatard
I told you. I told you at the beginning of the season. Spencer Rattler, not terrible.
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Mike Ryan
Never want to start again.
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Dan LeBatard
You're worried, you two, you're like Mike Ryan with the streaming number 0 in front of you. He cares about the numbers. He's making plays. Was it close? It was close.
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Stugotz
It was close. But I didn't believe that the Saints would ever win that football game. And I guess the Giants were the biggest up yesterday, beating the Chargers. We'll have something about that game in a second. But the Bills are in the wonderful position. And this is what the Chiefs were a couple of years ago. They're in the wonderful position where they routinely put up 31 points. And you're like, man, the offense didn't play that well. They didn't. They didn't do very much. And. And they're scoring 31 points. But in that game. And I thought of this the other day because I was talking to David Sampson and heart out to David Samp. If you've been following that show, you could listen to Nothing Personal today where he talks more personally about just the most horrific trying thing that he is going through. But I was talking to him about Annabelle Sanchez and the fact that my father and I went to one game that entire Marlin season and Annabel Sanchez threw a no hitter in that game. A no hitter that if we'd use replay back then wouldn't have been a no hitter because there would have been a Bad call in that game that turned that into not a no hitter. I'm watching you. You say that Mitchell immediately felt bad and had panic. And you are right. I'm watching in that game, Brandon Cooks make an amazing catch in the end zone. Okay. And the reason that I knew that it wasn't a catch, even though the referees signaled that it was indeed a catch and was a touchdown, is because Brandon Cooks got up, it was a great catch and he did a really super half hearted bow and arrow celebration. Like, it's like, I'll do this to try and fix it to try and fool the refs, but I know that they know that I didn't actually catch this ball. They're gonna go.
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Dan LeBatard
It was like a cupid. Like a cupid bow and bow.
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Mike Ryan
Now is cool celebration it is.
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Stugotz
But the way that he did it was limp. It was impotent. That like he, he should have been happy they'd be taking the lead on the road against the Bills. It was a third down play. It would have been an enormous play, an enormous ca. But he did it just. It was really limp. Just like I know they're going to overturn this when they go to video and. And everyone could tell. It's the way that I could tell on Mitchell's face. Like Mitchell looked up at the scoreboard to make sure. What happened after the Mitchell play, I'm telling you, was the funniest play Sunday. Because never in my life have I seen such an extraordinary play turned into something that's going to haunt him for the remainder of this week, the remainder of this season. Touchdowns are hard to come by in that sport. But as soon as Mitch Mitchell knew before the rest of us what had happened, he knew he lost the ball too early and he went in a panic to try and retrieve it. And then he does the thing that men sometimes do when they are alone with their shame and they're the only ones who know it and don't want to be seen. He started trying to adjust his cup and he just sort of sheepishly looked at the scoreboard and as his teammates come, because they don't know yet, teammates come to celebrate with him in the end zone and he's muttering something under his breath that makes them stop their celebration. And then he looks at the scoreboard and he knows that if he hasn't lost the game, he's hoping that he hasn't lost the game. And then after the game, the cameras are on, all on him as he's going to the locker room because he's the reason that they lost that football game. Do you realize what we'd be saying about the Colts? The margin for error in that sport is ridiculous. So we all forget about the fact that Denver had an offsides on a missed field goal and the Colts could have had one loss before that game. Do you realize how we'd be talking about the Colts today if he had simply gone the extra yard with that football to take them to 5 and oh with a win on the road against the Rams. The Rams that we all know are championship worthy because you're just scared of them because no other team in the league has like they throw plenty to St. Brown, they target St. Brown plenty in Detroit and Lord knows Kyler Murray Tyler, he, he targets McBride an awful lot in Arizona but nobody gets targeted like Puka Nakua in that sport. There's there, there is no receiver that's that kind of unguardable because of the connection that he has with his quarterback. How many catches did NA have yesterday Was it again double digits because you can count on him for double digit targets no matter who's covering.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, the book haven't caught up to his output. Matthew Stafford does this. He locks in on one guy has an unbelievable chemistry with a receiver. Wherever he goes he'll like that is option one and you don't even need separation. He works on such chemistry with wide receiver one. Mitchell also had a big time holding on a long run for Jonathan Taylor in that game so probably felt the worst out of anybody on Sunday would.
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Stugotz
Have been a touchdown run. Jonathan Taylor had like a 50 plus yard touchdown run. What a disaster.
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Dan LeBatard
For me it's a shame because he stepped up so admirably. Like the advanced analytics suggested that his target share, especially when Pierce is out, this is a guy to clue in on and he performed pretty admirably except he lost his team the game. He had 13 catches on the day Dan. That puts him to 42 catches on the season in four games. That's crazy. Those are 10 catches a game. Video game numbers. That's unbelievable. What's up listeners?
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Mike Ryan
I don't know about you but when.
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Dan LeBatard
I was a kid I certainly dreamed big. I think when we were all kids we dreamed big.
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Mike Ryan
Whether we wanted to be astronauts, presidents.
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Dan LeBatard
Personally I wanted to be a pitcher for the then Florida Marlins. Now we're dreaming of something else like owning our own businesses. But let's be honest, launching it is total chaos. Websites and shipping, your cousin who wants to collab.
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
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Dan LeBatard
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Stugotz
The worst part of the life?
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Dan LeBatard
Stutter the worst part of the life of what?
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Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
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Stugotz
It is odd, I've got to be honest, to see Stafford turn Nakua into what Cooper Cup Was. And it's also going to be really crushing for Detroit when Stafford ends their season. Somehow it's going to be really. It's going to feel really bad when the Rams do something like we expect them to do in the playoffs. There is not a team in the universe that wants to play the Rams. I don't care what the Rams record is in the playoffs.
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Dan LeBatard
One of the things to watch, you know how I have like these little side quests when I watch games? Watch Kyron Williams in pass protection. Watch it. He doesn't. He doesn't just like get a little shoulder in or anything like that. Dude blows guys up.
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Stugotz
Zazzler, what were you looking at the.
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Mike Ryan
Incompetence at the end of the Sunday night football game last night? Like, I fell asleep last night with three minutes left. I got to get out of that. I got to go to sleep. I was up really early. All right. So I wake up this morning and I open up my phone and I want to check the score. 40 40. Now, the first thought that came to my mind was, how is this game still going on? And then I saw it said final ties. Like, oh, all right.
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Stugotz
You know, what time was it? Like, what time were you waking up?
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Mike Ryan
It was 6:15am I was shocked that the game was still happening. It was a very high score. I don't remember it being 40, 40. When I went to sleep, the Cowboys.
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Dan LeBatard
Had like six points with like 40 seconds. Yeah, that second core.
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Mike Ryan
This game is still going on. It's a crazy game.
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Dan LeBatard
Hand up, hand up. I fell asleep during that game. Long weekend of solo parenting. I was stunned to see that final score.
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Stugotz
Yeah.
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Dan LeBatard
Stunned.
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Stugotz
Yeah.
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Mike Ryan
And so, so just now I'm, I'm watching the, the sequence at the end of the game where the Packer, like just letting the clock tick down and not winning the game.
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Dan LeBatard
I found it this morning because at 1:50 my daughter kind of like rustled and woke up a little bit and I was like, oh, I knew I fell asleep. Let me see. And just like in my fog of my mind, I look 44 and I'm like, no, that can't be right. 40, 40. That's not right. And I just put it back to sleep. Put it back down with the sleep.
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Stugotz
Dominique Foxworth on the Dominique Foxworth show has called the packers an unserious football team that doesn't have actual championship hopes. He said, and I don't think you can do this. That that was a win tie for the Cowboys and a lose tie for the Packers.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, that's true. I think Cowboy, I, Jerry Jones, won that game last night. That was a win. Cowboys won last night.
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Stugotz
Put it on the win at LeBatard show. Was that a good win for the Cowboys? Was that tie a good win for the Cowboys last night? Let's get to the Hampton Farms nuttiest fan here. I did indeed get my car cleaned for all the peanut shells over the weekend, but I will destroy that again when I take home some of these spicy nuts that are now something that perpetually remind me of childhood. What is. What are the nominees? Roy, for this week's nuttiest fan, all week's nutritious fan.
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Dan LeBatard
We have three nominees. The first nominee is a Virginia fan climbing the field goal and standing on the crossbar and hanging on to the upright. He was doing a move, like pointing that way, like doing a peril right or something like that. As you can see on the video.
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Stugotz
Right there, Good balance. That is a shirtless fan that is proud to be shirtless and should be proud to be shirtless.
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Dan LeBatard
That's an attractive young man. He's got some muscle on him.
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Mike Ryan
It's like looking in the mirror.
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Stugotz
That's exactly like you during pilates.
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Dan LeBatard
The second option is this Oregon fan at State College for the Penn State Ducks game who's all alone in a sea of white with the Nittany lion fans. That was. That was kind of like the. The Cowboys packers game where the final score is like, what the hell happened here? Yeah. Yep.
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Stugotz
I want to talk about that game in a second, but keep going, Roy.
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Dan LeBatard
And the final nominee, of course, the Virginia fans storming the field in rapid time as they pull it off. This upset.
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Mike Ryan
I don't like this.
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Dan LeBatard
This is the greatest field rush in.
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Mike Ryan
The history of greatest or worst.
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Dan LeBatard
I understand that looks very scary. That looks like World War Z over there. But you have to understand, the Cavalier fans were being edged for 90 minutes at that point. They were ready to go. They were rabid. They were all Braxton Barrios about to enter Doe Campbell stadium. They were crazy for that. That was just such a cool. I understand it looked. It looked a lot worse than it was. Nobody got hurt. By the way, that is a fine for me for clearing my throat and the microphone as the nuttiest fan brought to you by Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Vote for your favorite nutty fan at Levitar show on Instagram. And keep an eye out for Lucy Rodin at Notre Dame if you think you are that team's nuttiest fan.
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Stugotz
Zaslow, I thought that was Incredibly cool. It would have been bad if there had been a flag on the field. They got out there very fast. That's the fastest I've ever seen fans get on the field.
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Mike Ryan
The most aggressive field rushing I've ever seen. I mean, like I got a text I was watching in the hotel Friday night and I got a text from my son goes, you see the field rushing? It was so aggressive. I'm really nervous that somebody got hurt.
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Dan LeBatard
As a battle tested veteran of a lot of upsets on that field, they have an open end that's downhill and the stool the students tend to. How do you stop it? There is no way. Like they're just. They don't have the construction for that. Wake Forest was also a situation with which it would have been a crazy field rush had Wake Forest got that two point conversion to be Georgia Tech because the fans just line up there. This game went to overtime. Cassianos and Whitman combined for an unbelievable catch and throw. That. That was just like it deflated the crowd a little bit. And you had thousands upon thousands of students just in that open end of the end zone. And then they end up winning on that play. And it provided a cool visual but a little scary moment.
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Mike Ryan
It's too much. It's too. There's the safety part of it. Ok, I sound like an old person doesn't like that fun. Whatever, man. Like it was really aggressive. It makes me nervous just watching it. And then there's the other part of it which is like Illinois number 23. Illinois beat number 21, USC. Can you have a little self respect? Like they stormed the field after beating a team that was ranked. Ranked 2 spots higher than them. Can you, can you respect yourself a little bit? Illinois has some self respect and the.
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Dan LeBatard
ACC does hand out pretty punitive fines now for field.
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Mike Ryan
Oh, like these kids care. These kids are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to school there for a couple. For four years. They could say, oh, this I don't want school out to get. Fine.
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Stugotz
Come on.
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Dan LeBatard
If the ACC is actually serious about stopping this. If college football, big time college football spend students not. No, not that.
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Mike Ryan
Well, that. That is how it'll stop.
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Dan LeBatard
How about build a wall right now. The only thing. Oh, you're talking. Oh, Mike, thank you for coming around. Wahoo. Wah. Okay, you know what's like they're. UVA hopes to have plenty of upsets. It can't be more than a couple million dollars to pour some cement. Where's UVA and Charlottesville and build out a wall. Like if you're serious about stopping it, then maybe your last line of defense shouldn't be just, you know, a couple dudes with a rope.
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Stugotz
The games that you just mentioned, because I think there were four of them in there and I don't know which is the best of them. I disagree with Zaz on a couple of fronts. If you have USC's history and Illinois's football history, I understand rushing the field. Even though you're not incorrect when you say that the ranking difference between the two wasn't very large.
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Dan LeBatard
I'd also apply further context as a one student, the one responsible student. Guys, no, it's only two spots ahead of us. They played the late night slot last week and had to fly to Champaign, Illinois and play what is tantamount to an 11am start time. Well, a 10am start time for them. We should not do this.
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Stugotz
We should turn back after losing to Indiana by 50 the week before. And when you hold your hands up like that as the one student rushing, trying to stop. World War Z is my favorite zombie movie. I don't know if you guys have a better one than that, but World War Z is. I don't love zombie movies, but I like that one. When you hold up your hands as the one fan trying to hold back everybody. You remind me of the Carolina punter, punter on that special teams punt return yesterday where it's 10 Patriots running right at him because they like it. Was he there?
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Dan LeBatard
There?
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Stugotz
The return had nine blockers on it and the punter's like bleep this. I'm just, I'm not going to try to. I'm going to get out of the way here.
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Dan LeBatard
Reminds me of Kevin Bacon on Animal House. All is well. I gotta find out. Maybe when Pablo joins us later today we can ask him what have these special teams coaches in the NFL found out? Like there is more blocks, so many blocks, more impactful plays. Game changing plays at the Eagles especially that game was won on that very first punt attempt from Tampa. What is going on in this league with special teams from the kickers booming legs to the blocks? Is it because some of these kicks are happening at a lower trajectory because they have bigger legs than ever now? But I am liking this. I don't like the kickoff rule on the drop zone, but I am liking what I am seeing where, okay, it's not just guys making kicks because that's not good. Impactful plays from special teams and blocks. That's fun.
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Mike Ryan
Mike, I'm glad you brought up the kickoff and the drop zone. I'M just gonna say what everyone else is thinking as well. I have no idea how that rule works. I have no clue what's happening there. I don't know where they have to land. I don't know what happens if it doesn't land there. I know that it's bad if it doesn't go where it's supposed to. I don't have a clue how this kickoff works.
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Stugotz
Put it on the poll please. Juju at LeBatard show if you're really being honest, do you understand the new kickoff rules? And to your point, Mike, yesterday during that Philadelphia Tampa game, as you're sitting here talking about correctly the block punt, that was the first score in that game. There was a 65 yard field goal in that game. No one remembers.
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Dan LeBatard
Just casual 65 yarder bomb. Just cash. Super casual. We're not even talking about this like the world would stop. Usually when these kicks were attempted, the.
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Stugotz
Record used to be 63 yards. Can you look up, we put a picture up of the half footed kicker Tom Dempsey from New Orleans a million years ago that used to hold the record at one point for longest field goal. The record used to be 63 yards. Kickers have rendered that irrelevant.
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Mike Ryan
I remember growing up up Jason Elam. Yeah, breaking it was attempting like a 53 yard field goal and it was holy shit, I can't believe they're trying this.
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Stugotz
Oh, I got mad at the Raiders yesterday for being so meek trying to settle into position for a 50 plus yard field goal instead of trying to get a little bit closer and then losing the game to the Bears because they they're sitting there like if a 53 yard field goal is now an easy thing.
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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
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Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
I have in front of me here the games that you mentioned outside of of Illinois, usc. So you mentioned Georgia Tech, Wake Forest. I want to see which one of these you guys found most interesting. You got Ole Miss, lsu. Oh by the way, put the town on alert. I got that one right if I wonder if anyone out there won money taking Virginia on the money line and Mississippi on the money line together in a parlay because my God, did ole Ms. Drag LSU. I know the game was close and I know Trinidad Chambliss, who's got just a great name that's just a great name.
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Dan LeBatard
Great scouting find for them too.
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Stugotz
He did something really dumb at the end of the game. So did Trevor Lawrence yesterday where they both went out of bounds when you can't go out of bounds in those situations. And so they needed a fourth down play in Lane Kiffin to be Lane Kiffin to actually win at the end. But Mississippi had 200 more yards than LSU. LSU cannot run the ball no matter how much Brian Kelly yells at us about asking. They just can't do it. And in that game, Ole Miss lost the turnover battle, had 14 penalties and still dragged LSU. But that game takes a back burner to obviously Alabama, Georgia and Oregon. Penn State, which I wanted to talk about because James Franklin's record. Tony, please look this up for me. James Franklin is now 4 and 21 against top 10 teams. And in the Big Ten against the top 10, he's one in. And that's the third worst record since 1937. But I want to know who's worse. Like, I want you to give me the name and the record of somebody who is worse. Because when they said he's third worst ever, I'm like, who can possibly be worse than. Who gets the chances to be worse than 1 in 18 in the Big Ten against top 10 teams they threw up.
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Dan LeBatard
Just a graphic of general win loss records against AP top 25 teams. I guess Beamer was doing it for so long that the time that I had recognized it, I didn't really know that that was a saint on his record. But Frank Beamer apparently was James Franklin before James.
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Mike Ryan
That's the only way. It has to be someone who, you know they're gonna get a million chances because they've been the coach for 30 years.
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Dan LeBatard
So never talk to me about Drew Aller ever again. He's got that guy, that guy Taller Van Dyke stinks. His name is taller Van Dyke.
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Stugotz
You can do if you want Virginia Tech and Frank Beamer. But I don't expect anything from Virginia Tech if not for Frank Beamer. Zagak, what James Franklin inherited in Penn State, he's gotten a lot of credit for rejuvenating something that looked like it was gonna be decimated by the single worst scandal we've ever seen in college sports, which is what happened with Joe Paterno and Penn State.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, Bill o' Brien did build up.
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Stugotz
The bones though, but didn't get it back here. Didn't get it back to where James Franklin got it, where he got one of these giant contracts for. For being 1 in 18 against Big 10 top 10 teams. Put this on the poll as well, Juju, because Mike mentioned the way that game went. Has 17 to 3 seemed insurmountable to Penn State since 1986. Because I did not expect them to be able to come back and tie that game and says, you're going to be out here telling me you like that game because you like those defensive struggles.
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Mike Ryan
I do.
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Stugotz
You liked that game. That slows down Oregon and turns them into their leading 17 to 3. And they're in a position to bury James Franklin. But somehow Penn State miraculously scores two touchdowns.
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Mike Ryan
I love how every possession, especially in the second half is so important. Every play is so important. I love that kind of game. And by the way, yes, it was 17:3 late in the third quarter and some people may have thought it was a bore. Fourth quarter, that game was awesome. You tell me it wasn't fun to watch. And then they put the camera on James Franklin after, after they lose the games.
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Dan LeBatard
Moore showed a lot of poise there, Proudly welcomed himself into the Heisman conversation. But take away from all the post game stuff is, look, we can all laugh and cut clips, but if I'm Oregon's athletic department, I do send a text to Dan Lanning and just say, hey, are you all right, Dan? I've got the top five worst coaches against the top 10 in the AP poll. Number four, Tom Allen from Indiana was one in 14 against the top 10. Unfortunate time to be in the Big 10. Mike Loxley from Maryland and New Mexico was over 07 against the top 10.
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Stugotz
What years were this?
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Dan LeBatard
Tom Allen was there not too long ago. This is. I don't have the years, I only have the schedule. Wasn't Tom Allen there when Penix was there? Number two, Matt Rule, Temple Baylor, Nebraska 0 and 11 versus AP top 10 Nebraska. Just never going to win that game. Never going to win that game. And the worst, James Franklin 4 and 21 against the AP top 10.160 as a winning percentage.
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Mike Ryan
Stop winning.
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Stugotz
All good numbers. But again, the stat that I read was that he's the third worse since 1937. And I was saying who's worse? Who are the two who are worse than James Franklin? You mentioned low scoring or we were talking about low scoring games. I will have you know, again on another Saturday, even though you guys judge me for this, I was driving around listening to satellite radio instead of watching college football. And what I had on was the Iowa broadcast of Iowa Indiana. And I enjoy these broadcasts for a number of reasons. One of which is the local sponsors that are sponsoring the red zone every first down. And so I get to enjoy, you know, take a deep breath and enjoy Widdles hot dogs or discount furniture or whatever else. And the announcers in Iowa, Indiana at the end of that game, which was of course Indiana slowed down by Iowa because that's what I would does ever against everyone except Rutgers this year for some reason. The announcers had the following exchange. One of them said, who doesn't love defensive football? And the other one then howled, I don't want this game to ever end. And then it ended shortly thereafter with Indiana winning.
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Dan LeBatard
I'm so happy that we're talking about college football. I think Sunday was the worst football day of the weekend. I put together a top five just so we can quick hit like these were the most compelling.
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Stugotz
You're going to have two from Friday because that TCU Arizona State game.
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Dan LeBatard
Yep, yep. Dan time honored tradition of ruining the top five before it gets going. And number five, Tennessee, Mississippi State. This game was awesome. I don't know what to make of the SEC as a whole because we're still trying to mold our brains over parodying college football. Doesn't seem like one SEC team is appreciably better than anybody else. If I had to pick one, I still think Texas is built for this. And Texas now has gotten to the point where they might be underrated. The team that is second best at that goal line thing that Ohio State does is Texas and it should be talked about. Excuse me, like the tush push. Number four, Oregon, Penn State. We covered that. Number three. Let's talk about this TCU Arizona State game in the Big 12 because when TCU went up 17 0, I crossed my arms and said TCU, good football team. They got weapons. McAllister. They have a dude named Man Jack IV who doesn't wear receiving gloves on his hands. White guy of course, Josh Hoover, great quarter back, great, great running backs. And they go up 170 against a team that lost Gadaboo. But they still have Tyson and they still have Levitt. And the fight that Arizona State showed in really tight situations getting a tip ball, that was a game changing interception. When TC was looking to put it.
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Stugotz
Tyson is such a good receiver.
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Dan LeBatard
Tyson is an absolute first round pro. He is unreal. The strip sack at the end of that game when it looks like, all right, let's see what TCU's got here. TCU may very well be good, but that is a proud Arizona State team. That Friday football was just unbelievable. Second FSU Virginia in Charlottesville. Told you this one was going to be spooky. We told you it was going to be spooky. Everyone talked themselves into fsu. They don't have the body types for you to think that they can just stroll into a road game in the ACC against a veteran quarterback like Chandler Morris and come out to tell the talent tail you think that you're wrong. Deuce Robinson, absolute gamer, really good player, bad drop in that end zone. Huge drop. But should they have even been in that? Because Whitman bail them out with an unreal catch. Castellanos, I think he's been better than anybody could have probably anticipated in that offense. But big time problems for that defense headed into Miami week. And number one, Dan Bama, uga, I.
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Mike Ryan
Was there for that.
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Dan LeBatard
Now it may not have been the best game of the weekend, but in terms of storylines I think awesome. I think this one is super interesting because Bama, you look back at that FSU game and you're so confused by that result and you may just have to resign yourself to the fact that Alabama was not prepared to play that game because this receiver room for Alabama is unbelievable. The body types that you Dan mentioned. Kaden Proctor. Do we have that photo of the Kaden Proctor screenplay? Can Proctor goes from an off season scandalous kind of personality surrounded by all sorts of nil to playing all over the line. This guy was considered a disappointment all season long. And then he's playing on the left side, he's playing on the right side. They're throwing screen passes to him. That UGA herbie was just. He felt so bad for the safeties that had to try to make this tackle there. Bama looks so good. They just have UGA's number and Dan look and obviously I'm a Carson Beck guy. I've talked to some people in his camp. It seems that Kirby Smart picked the wrong guy because this may end up being a wasted year for UGA and it's because of the decision they made with quarterback. It's one thing to pick Stockton over Beck and Beck is coming off of that surgery and whatnot. That's fine. But they didn't upgrade at that position and they made a bad decision because this is going to be a wasted year for a national championship caliber team. Do the inventory on SEC quarterbacks there. No lie. You may get to double digits on quarterbacks inside that conference that you trust more than gunner. Stockton, they would, they would kill to have any one of those. Like can you imagine Pavia on Georgia. Vanderbilt has a much better quarterback situation. Mississippi State, Tennessee, the schools that have a better quarterback situation inside their own conference is startling for a Kirby Smart team. And it is just a massive, massive game gaff. But Bama might be back. Why don't do the Kaden Proctor play like a lot, right? They just did it once. Why don't you do it more? You just get a guy who's 6, 9£400. You throw it to him, they can't tackle him. And then you just get 7, 8 yards at a time, turn him into a tight end.
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Stugotz
It was funny because he was obviously hit at the line of scrimmage. It was a screen pass on the goal line and he just dragged dudes 10 yards. The thing that I think that Mike is doing and Zaz was there, as he mentioned, that I don't think is fair. Even though the overall analysis is that yeah, there are better quarterbacks than Gunner Stockton, but Stockton made the throw you needed to make in that game. Taylor dropped it. And I felt bad as a freshman to be in your home stadium to get past the defense. If, if not for the existence of Adonai Mitchell, I would feel worse for Taylor than anyone in the sport this weekend because you're starting your Georgia career. You're behind the Alabama defense. It's the easiest catch in the world and your quarterback made the throw and you just dropped the ball behind the defense that would have given you the lead. You can blame the quarterback all you want there, but what are you doing blaming the quarterback there? I think he made the throw to win the game.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, but I think the fact that it's a game is the issue here because it's probably not a game if they have a different quarterback situation. I put pen to paper. Jackson Arnold at Auburn, better quarterback situation. Mississippi State, Tennessee Sellers even though South Carolina's had a very disappointing season. But better, better quarterback play read at Texas A and Mizzou is getting great play out of their quarterback. Arkansas, better quarterback even though they just fired their head coach. Lsu, Nussmeier, people have their opinions, but he would be better at UGA than what they have right now. The backup quarterback, Trinidad from Ole Miss, he'd be a gamer. Vanderbilt clearly game days headed to.
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Stugotz
It's not fair what you're doing. Alabama came out and ran roughshod over the Georgia defense on third down like they were just completing all their passes while gunner Stockton was standing on the sideline.
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Dan LeBatard
Ban. Oh, you Texas, UGA is not going to win a title when they're. When these team. When they have that many teams ahead of them.
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Mike Ryan
I don't think you're giving Alabama enough credit, man. Like, yes, the FSU game looks really terrible at this point. And it certainly doesn't help where you're probably right when you say they must not have been prepared because that's like the worst thing for a coach. The first game of the season when you were kind of embattled at the end of last season, your team was clear, clearly not prepared. But I think you'd rather them be not as bad as it is. I think you'd rather them be not prepared. And that's what happened in that FSU game. Then they're not that good because I think they are that good.
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Dan LeBatard
Well, they're still getting run on a little bit. But look, you want to know not prepared. You're playing Gus Malzahn and you have a nose tackle setting the edge for you in week one. That just shows you never done any kind of film study on Gus Malzahn.
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Mike Ryan
But I, I think that out like they're top 10 again now. I think they're number 10, right. Alabama. I, I, I think they're a playoff team. And, and you want to talk about James Franklin and how he can't win the big games. Kaylin DeBoer all he does is win the big games.
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Stugotz
Pablo's going to join us next. Pablo.
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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
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