The Big Suey: The 12-To-7 Hang Up Ratio (feat. David Samson)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Big Suey – "The 12-to-7 Hang Up Ratio"

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: March 26, 2026
Guests/Featured Contributor: David Samson
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This episode of "The Big Suey" dives into the crew’s takes on modern masculinity in pop culture, the latest in sports (basketball and baseball), behind-the-scenes negotiation tactics, and the ever-escalating world of social media discourse. David Samson joins for wide-ranging banter, sharing his thoughts on a revealing Netflix documentary ("Inside the Manosphere"), baseball aging curves, negotiation “hang up” strategies, and drama involving both WNBA collective bargaining and the show’s own social media team. Plus, high jinks about monocles and Mr. Peanut, and a comical descent into Highlight team drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Inside the Manosphere – Netflix Documentary Review

• Samson’s First Encounter with the 'Manosphere'
  • Samson admits total ignorance prior to watching Louis Theroux's documentary, expressing shock at the level of misogyny, anti-Semitism, and “blatant fraud” in the so-called manosphere community.
  • Quote (David Samson, 04:18):

    "I had never heard of the Manosphere. I didn’t know what I was watching... I was not aware of the misogyny, the anti-Semitism, the blatant fraud... It blew my mind. I’ve never felt more old, out of touch, or scared than watching that documentary."

• Dan’s Perspective on the Doc’s Societal Impact
  • Dan connects the manosphere to the rise of Trump and broader issues with angry, lonely young men seeking meaning, echoing Samson’s sense of societal disconnect.
  • Quote (Dan Le Batard, 05:37):

    "That’s all I missed about how Trump got elected by lonely, angry young men who feel like they’ve been left behind and are looking to clowns to figure out how it is to become a man."

• Discussion on Scammers, Miami, and the Illusion of Success
  • Samson notes the concentration of manosphere figures/scammers in Miami and shares sadness at young men pursuing unattainable lifestyles.

Timestamp: [04:18] – [08:15]

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2. Sports Roundup – NBA, MLB, and the Age Paradox

• NBA Recap
  • Celtics ending OKC’s win streak, Gobert’s crucial block on KD, wild Sixers/Bulls scoring, and Timberwolves’ overtime heroics.
• Athlete Age Shockers
  • The group marvels at how "old" Aaron Judge seems compared to injury-prone or "retired" athletes who are actually younger.
  • Quote (Chris Cody, 09:28):

    "Athletes that are considered damaged goods are younger than Aaron Judge... Anthony Davis is a full year younger than Aaron Judge."

• MLB Aging and Contract Considerations
  • Samson gives the inside scoop on how contracts account for late-age decline and recounts the failed pursuit of Pujols, noting how teams evaluate player ages.

Timestamp: [03:04] – [10:43]

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3. Barry Bonds’ Yankees Non-Deal: Fact or Fiction?

• Play soundbite of Barry Bonds recounting how George Steinbrenner gave him a same-day contract deadline; panel debates its truth.
• Samson explains why such a story sounds “TV-made,” noting contractual reality in MLB makes that timeline unrealistic.
  • Quote (David Samson, 12:16):

    "To go around to the player in 1992 and give a 2 o’clock deadline... I just don’t find that realistic."

Timestamp: [10:22] – [12:44]

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4. The Art of the Negotiation Hang-up: "12-to-7 Ratio"

• Samson’s Hang-Up Ratio
  • Keeps a literal score: "around 12 times hung up, 7 times been hung up on."
  • Explains the hang-up as a negotiation tactic and laments its weakened effect in the cell phone era.
  • Quote (David Samson, 13:42):

    "Within a negotiation, the hang ups are critical... I love the hang up because you can do it hard, you can do it in the middle of a point, and people don’t get back to their exact point..."

• Memorable Negotiation Walk-Aways
  • Recounts leaving the room while notorious baseball agent Scott Boras rambled on unconcerned during contract talks.
• Hang-Up with Governor Jeb Bush
  • Samson recalls a particularly regrettable hang-up on then-Governor Jeb Bush during stadium funding talks.
  • Quote (David Samson, 19:23):

    "I’m embarrassed to tell you... I had a hang up with the governor, Governor Jeb Bush... It was not my best moment and it did not lead to a deal."

Timestamp: [13:42] – [20:35]

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5. Netflix’s Foray into Baseball Broadcasts – Fan Alienation or Growth?

• New MLB Coverage Backlash
  • Mixed reaction to Netflix’s debut baseball broadcast; criticisms over production glitches (smoky outfield camera) and lack of tradition.
  • Dan challenges Samson on why traditional baseball fans are so resistant to making the game an “amusement park.”
  • Samson counters that aging out the old demographic is MLB’s intentional strategy.
  • Quote (David Samson, 22:56):

    "Traditionalists are upset. Old white people are upset. How could you do this to my game?... But that’s not the customer that baseball wants."

  • The group notes that opening day shouldn’t be marred by negativity, but Samson argues that innovation always brings criticism.

Timestamp: [20:35] – [24:42]

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6. WNBA CBA Controversy – Social Media and Context in Punditry

• Samson Defends His Critique of WNBA Negotiations
  • Claims the show’s social media team misrepresented his views, painting him as anti-women due to selective editing.
  • Quote (David Samson, 25:39):

    "It was a bunch of horseshit, if you ask me… That is not I hate women. That is me telling you the players did not win that negotiation, period."

• Dan Pleads Innocence, Feigns Ignorance
  • Denies managing clips/social media. Banter about nefarious editing and making Samson look “evil” becomes a running bit for the rest of the segment.

Timestamp: [25:12] – [27:46], [39:16] – [41:33]

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7. Hi-Lai Team Drama & Group Chat Etiquette

• Cyclones’ Slump – Locker Room Turmoil
  • Comedy out of a Highlight team’s “morale crisis” (bad vibes after match draws).
  • “Coach speak” as a form of both inspiration and self-satire.
• Samson’s First Group Chat
  • Shares a rookie’s experience with group chat overload and the pressure to interact.
  • Quote (David Samson, 35:03):

    "How often is a response required to make you know that I’m still happy to be a part of it and interested... but not at the cadence that you’re delivering it?"

• Hilarious Corrections on the Popularity of Highlight
  • Fact-checking runs amok: Highlight, contrary to Samson’s belief, is not (or is no longer) popular in the Philippines or Hawaii.

Timestamp: [32:04] – [37:40]

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8. Pop Culture Tangents: Monocles, Mr. Peanut & Mandela Effect

• Monocle Mayhem
  • The group debates who actually wears a monocle (Monopoly guy vs. Mr. Peanut).
  • Several realize the Monopoly guy never actually had one—a Mandela Effect moment.
• Mr. Clean “Retires”
  • Discussion over the cultural impact of brand icons—was Mr. Clean really retired?
• Running Joke: “Sinister” Social Media Team
  • Banter about sinister editing and orchestration against Samson, complete with fake voice clips ("I hate women") for comic effect.

Timestamp: [40:13] – [43:04]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On the Manosphere’s Appeal

  • Dan Le Batard, 05:37:

    "There’s a whole region of the internet... that helped get Trump elected because of the loneliness and the angriness and the anger that you find among young men."

• On Negotiation Tactics

  • David Samson, 13:42:

    "I think it’s around 12, 7, I believe. I’ve hung up on someone 12 times and been hung up on 7 times. I used to keep copious track of that..."

• On Facing Online Critique (And Show Drama):

  • David Samson, 25:39:

    "It was a bunch of horseshit, if you ask me. You want to know what I said? Horse hockey. Same thing you said. I said the same thing you said, Dan..."

• On Group Chat Stress

  • David Samson, 35:03:

    "I find it very stressful when there has to be a reaction to a video and I’m in the middle of doing something and everyone has haha’d it and I want to be different so that you’ll notice that I participated."

• On Baseball Fandom & Age

  • David Samson, 22:56:

    "Traditionalists are upset. Old white people are upset. How could you do this to my game of the customer?... But you’re wrong, Dan, because that’s not the customer that baseball wants."

• Bit Callback / Running Gag

  • Various (41:21, 41:33):

    "I hate women." (Taken out of context as a running joke about social media misrepresentation.)

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Memorable Moments

• The “12-to-7 Hang Up Ratio”
  • A window into negotiations—and Samson’s penchant for tracking odd stats.
• Accidental Comedy—Monocles and Mandela Effect
  • The group’s surprise that the Monopoly guy never had a monocle, with Mr. Peanut being the true one-eyed spectacle-wearer.
• Comedic Skewering Between Dan and Samson
  • Banter about editing Samson to look “most bad, most misogynistic, most evil,” played up with farcical voice clips.
• Sports and Broadcast Criticism
  • Netflix’s baseball telecast: A case study in the old vs. new sports fan culture war.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:18] – Samson reviews "Inside the Manosphere"
• [05:37–08:15] – Panel on manosphere/Trump/online hate
• [09:28] – Age paradox of Judge, Davis, etc.
• [10:22–12:44] – Barry Bonds/Steinbrenner Yankees story
• [13:42–20:35] – Negotiation tactics, notable hang-ups
• [20:35–24:42] – Netflix MLB coverage backlash
• [25:12–27:46], [39:16–41:33] – WNBA CBA & "editing for evil"
• [32:04–37:40] – Highlight team/group chat etiquette
• [40:13–43:04+] – Monocle/Mandela Effect, pop culture fun

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Conclusion

This episode is a kaleidoscope of sports talk, cultural critique, and inside-baseball (literally and figuratively) storytelling—the Team’s trademark blend of wit, candor, and absurdity. The featured segments with David Samson offer plenty of laughs, rare negotiation war stories, and a sharp take on societal trends—from the toxic underbelly of new media masculinity to the evolving (and sometimes struggling) world of modern sports.

If you missed it, listen for:

• Samson’s revealing Netflix doc review and how it mirrors social anxieties.
• The “12-to-7 hang up ratio”—a rare look at sports-business brinkmanship.
• Baseball’s battle for relevance, and a panel that’s self-aware about its own generational divides.
• Comedic gems on monocles, branding icons, and the show’s gleeful self-sabotage.

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Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

You said a lot of great things. The one thing you did miss, Stefan Castle, absolutely. Posterizing Buddy getting on a knee and then looking at him afterwards was incredible too.

[Sports Analyst]

The Sixers beat the Bulls last night, 1:57 to 1:37. Each team had a quarter. Each team had a quarter where they scored over 50 points in the quarter. And the NBA wants to add two teams.

[Jeremy]

Hawks had a 20 point lead to the Pistons, blew it and then beat them in overtime. They're 15 and 2 since the ultimate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nobody can beat the Hawks. And Joel Embiid was great in that first quarter. He just totally changes them, obviously. Just never plays.

[Greg Cody]

He's really good when he plays. The problem is he's played 91 games. Like we said in the stat the other day, Jokic has had 88 triple doubles played.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Bulls, okay, but still, I mean, it's professional basketball.

[Greg Cody]

He's out there running around. That's what you want to see.

[Sports Analyst]

Is it professional?

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony's friend is going to join us in studio here at some point before the end of the show. That's all I'm going to say about that. David Sampson joins us. Nothing Personal is the name of the show. I'm sure he has a lot of opinions on the baseball of last night. But I'd actually like to start with your movie review today instead of starting with baseball. We will get to that in a second. What are you reviewing for us today?

[David Sampson]

I'm reviewing something that was mentioned that I didn't understand what Mike Ryan was saying when it came up last week. So I wanted to watch it. It's called Inside the Manosphere, a documentary by Louis Thoreau. And I will admit to you all, I had never heard of the Manosphere. I didn't know what I was watching. And all of a sudden it started unveiling itself like some sort of onion being peeled. I was not aware of the misogyny, the anti Semitism, the blatant fraud that is being perpetuated upon the general public of those incels who are trying to be something they will never be. Which roughly sounds like a lot of people who follow the President, might I add. Because you're never going to Be that rich. But I am shocked. Not that Miami was such a central part of this. All of those scammers, all of those manosphere guys are all right, like next door to where you are. And it just, it blew my mind. And I wanted to talk. I didn't review it on nothing personal, even though Coco wanted me to. I wanted to save it, to talk to a group about. Because I've never felt more old, I've never felt more out of touch or more scared than watching that documentary on Netflix called Inside the Manosphere.

[Dan LeBatard]

I did see it. And not unlike you, the thing that I felt most strongly watching that is, ah, that's all I missed about how Trump got elected by lonely, angry young men who feel like they've been left behind and are looking to clowns to figure out how it is to become a man. Because those people are saying something that no one else is saying because, oh, how brave to be anti Semitic. Oh, how brave to be anti woman. There's a whole region of the Internet, Dave, that helped get Trump elected because of the loneliness and the angriness and the anger that you will find among young men.

[David Sampson]

What I really enjoyed is one of the guys whose name, I think his name is HS and he's good looking, he may be Australian. And he was asked, are you anti Semitic? He said, yes. Are you a misogynist? Yes. Are you? Actually, no, but I'll take your money. It's all about them enriching themselves. Does that sound familiar to anyone? It is all about these guys. It's all a fraud. You're not going to make money. You're not going to get laid by hot people, women or men. You're not gonna get any of the life, the Lamborghini, the nice cars, the followers. You're not going to get any of it. And they interviewed a bunch of kids who wanted to be these men and thought they could. And I was so saddened by that. There were two of them on Miami Beach. They moved to Miami to find America. Maybe it's. And you know, I'm not an immigrant, so I can't relate to it, but it felt like a promising America, that when you get here, you're like, wait a minute, I have no shot at all. Like, I'm homeless. But, man, I'm going to follow this hateful guy and that'll help me get rich. Meanwhile, nothing doing. You stay poor.

[Dan LeBatard]

HS is from England, not from Australia, and he was a fugitive in the movie. This, this documentarian Thoreau makes good documentaries. And this one will make you think, But David, we've aged out. What's happened there? The thing that was shocking about that movie to me was just sort of like, oh, I had no idea that there was an alternate reality here where people are filing under truth telling amid cancel culture. Oh, I'll be the hateful one. And that there's bravery in that worth following.

[David Sampson]

Well, there's money in that. Worth following. And Dan, you say we've aged out. Does that mean everyone else in the room, you know, Mike Ryan, I feel like you've got your finger on so many different pulses. To you, the manosphere in Miami was something you just knew existed and stayed away from.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. I'm not the key demo. Although I do hate my dad. Well, just kidding. I love him. He's a good guy. It's just for a fact. Also, my dad is younger than Aaron Judge.

[David Sampson]

That would almost be impossible.

[Dan LeBatard]

We were shocked to learn that Aaron Judge is a month from his 34th birthday. We did not know that here as a show.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, well, Jeremy did, because when he was signed to that huge extension by the Yankees, it was clear the number of years that we're going to be the post 35 years. You don't look at 33 or 34. He'll play 34. When you turn an age prior to the All Star break, the. What you say within the game is he'll play at that number for that season. So this is Aaron Judge's 34 season. So don't count this year. He'll be okay, Mike. Next year. Okay. But then it's after that. When you're playing 36 without steroids, you're. It's going to be a precipitous decline.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I'm not surprised that the guys that follow baseball know his age. What's shocking is, like, athletes that are considered like, damaged goods are younger than him. Like, Jarvis Landry's been out of the NFL for what feels like five years and he's younger than Aaron Judge. Anthony Davis is like a full year younger than Aaron Judge. This is wild.

[David Sampson]

Well, Anthony Davis has been injury prone since he was way younger than some of the youngest guys in the league. So that's. He's. He's been. His body has been aging way faster than his actual years.

[Sports Analyst]

Pujols was definitely older than that.

[David Sampson]

Were you, David?

[Sports Analyst]

I'm sorry? Pujols was definitely older than that when you guys tried to sign him, right?

[David Sampson]

No, he was not 35 years old when we were off, what, 32 years? I'm going to say he was 32. We were going to pay him till 42, maybe 31 to play 32. But it's easy math. I mean, it's not easy math with Albert. I don't know the answer to that. But in theory we believed that he was not 35.

[Sports Analyst]

Of course.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's play the sound for David Sampson of Barry Bonds talking on the broadcast last night. David, do you believe this story about

[David Sampson]

George Steinbrenner, the Yankee story?

[Barry Bonds]

George isn't here anymore, so I can tell the truth, right? Well, I would have been the Yankees, but Steinbrenner got on the phone and he called, called us and they told me, barry, we're going to give you the, the money. The highest paid player at that time, but you have to sign the contract by 2:00 clock this afternoon. And I said, excuse me. And I just hung the phone up.

[David Sampson]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Barry Bonds]

And I went to go get lunch and my, you know, Dennis Gilbert, my agent. And then we're like, what do you know? You just did. I'm like, did you know what he just said? I just said, forget it. And I went to go get. By the time I walked down the street to go get lunch, I said, let me just think about this. The Giants called me and I said, I'm going home.

[Dan LeBatard]

David, do you believe that story?

[David Sampson]

It's, it's really a made for television story. There's some bits of truth to it, so I'm gonna say it.

[Dan LeBatard]

How do you sound the same? How do you sound the same holding your nose. Remarkable.

[Chris Cody]

That's unbelievable to your actual voice?

[David Sampson]

Hell yeah. Yeah, it's true. Ish. But you have to go back in context. So this is my guess is you're talking about 1992 somewhere in that range. 92, 93, I think. And so you have to go back to where the Yankees were back then. You have to go back to Dennis Gilbert and you have Dennis Gilbert, who's a great guy, a great agent, you know, in the insurance business, just a wonderful guy. You'll see him in the front row at Dodger games, about six seats to the right of Mary Hart. And back then, really just useless information.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you talking about? Just useless? Not, not that he's a good guy and that you like him, but that he's six seats.

[Sports Analyst]

Mary Hart, Tony, you know, Mary Hart is.

[David Sampson]

Who the hell is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not useful information. Why did you offer it?

[David Sampson]

Because I want people to understand this is not a schlepper. Barry Bonds, his agent, Dennis Gilbert, who would be involved in the negotiation for George Strimer to go around to the player back in 1992 and give a 2 o' clock deadline. I just don't find that to be realistic. You'd have to have the contract. It have to be approved by the union, it have to be approved by the commissioner's office. So I just.

[Chris Cody]

Hmm.

[Greg Cody]

It was the Mary Hart thing, the computer.

[Chris Cody]

Well, just to like close his point. Did you guys get that? Barry Bonds agent ended up being rich ba.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's the point of the story. Six seats away to the right to Mary Hart. Yes, that is correct. You asked earlier, Chris, and I'm afraid to go back to him with that connection. Mary Hart, also younger than Aaron Judge. I'm afraid to go to the connection back. Okay, Jack, how often have you had a hang up in negotiations? I missed the landline because the cell phone makes the hang up harder. What just happened technologically makes it so that sometimes you don't know if someone's hung up on you or if it's just a bad connection. It's the only reason to miss the landline that you could just throw it down and there was no confusion about whether someone hung up on you or not. How often do you use the hang up or use the hang up in negotiations?

[David Sampson]

David, the score for me and I have to go back to get exact, but I think it's around 12, 7, I believe. I've hung up on someone 12 times and been hung up on 7 times. I used to keep copious track of that. And the reason I did is that within a negotiation, the hang ups are critical. You have to understand that when you're negotiating, that is a great tool to pull. And you're right. Landline, good. Cell phone. Fine. You can go with oh, I lost service, or oh, I didn't hear anything you said. And hang up's different than putting the phone down. And you know, that's how we dealt with Boris. You just put the phone down and let him talk to air. And that's, that's a strategy as well. But I love the hang up because you can do it hard. You can do it in the middle of a point, and then people don't ever get back to their exact point because they were making it up to begin with or they lose track of what they were trying to get from you. And so I absolutely agree with the hang up.

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Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely. Mike.

[Barry Bonds]

Yeah.

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[David Sampson]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you have a memorable one above all others? And would you guys actually walk out of the room when Boris was talking? Leave the phone on your desk and leave the actual room?

[David Sampson]

A hundred percent. And you can ask Mike Hill or Larry Binefest. What we would do is it would be on speaker. That's when landlines it would be on speaker and we would just put the mute button down. And my office was next to the GM's office. We'd go into my office, we do a bunch of other stuff and we'd have Larry's assistant say okay, he stopped. And then we'd scurry back in and say oh, by the way, you know we're not doing that. So we already knew the answer to whatever he was saying and he would just bob babble on. And I don't mean like three minutes. And Scott Boris, you can ask around the game. He's famous for plus five straight minutes of talking on a phone call which in the real world, imagine talking for five minutes straight on the phone without any sort of breath. It's insane.

[Dan LeBatard]

No one hang up that is more memorable than any of the others.

[David Sampson]

I'm embarrassed to tell you that I, I, I had a hang up with the governor, Governor Jeb Bush. He was the governor in Florida. I look back on that. It was not my best moment and it did not lead to a deal. But I was so angry that we were having such problems getting state allocated money for a ballpark when, when there was already money in the till. We just had to be a part of what already existed. And we, and I thought I had the Bushes all set. Because remember, George was involved in baseball. And so to me, this was just. This was easy. And I was getting nowhere. And I knew behind the scenes was Norman Bremen and Marco Rubio, and they were just working against us. And I knew that. And so that's Jeb. And I knew Jeb wanted to be a part of winning because he was at the 2003 celebration at the White House. He just loved the good stuff and would not budge on the bad stuff. And I did a hang up. And then I was told by someone with whom I worked that hanging up on a governor doesn't work. I regret that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard Show. Would a baby today ever be named Jeb? At Lebatard show, exclamation point. Famously, Jeb, yes or no, please clap. David, your thoughts of Netflix foray into baseball? It's getting panned. A lot of people are crushing Netflix for how the game was covered last night.

[David Sampson]

Well, first of all, stop being upset with them because they missed the abs. Do I think the guy in the truck could have cut away from Tony Vitello in order to see what was going on with the first ever challenge? Yeah, but I also understand that that's the time you get the manager. The manager's told in advance that that's going to be his slot, and so he's ready for that. And you have to go straight through. You get one minute, you get three questions, and then you're out. And so it's just poor timing. But it's hard to blame Netflix for that. The camera bothered me, only in that the center field camera was smoky and now they're telling me it's an iris issue. I don't know what that means. Apparently when there's sun and shade, it creates smoke and mirrors and some sort of what looks like a green screen. I. I don't understand. But I do know there's been shade games before and I've never seen that. So that the production quality, that time, and that center field camera bother me. The commercials for Netflix? No, because every network does it. When you see Fox or cbs, they're always promoting their own shows. That's who gets free tickets to the super bowl is the people who are in the shows on the network that's showing the super bowl and then they're showed on screen. So that that stuff was fine with me. Winston. You know, whatever with wwe.

[Dan LeBatard]

But wait a minute, David. Fine with you is one thing. Okay, for those of you who do not know, David Sampson was well ahead of his time and having Showtime, a now defunct network, do a reality show about the Marlins that was about five to 10 years ahead of its time. And if they'd done it the way David wanted to do it, most honestly, it would have been a monster hit. But everyone was afraid of it, and it quickly died. Got canceled. I don't think it even lasted the season. Your sensibilities here are not the sensibilities of baseball fans. You like the amusement park elements of this. Baseball fans are allergic to making it an amusement park. And you know this.

[David Sampson]

But you asked me my view. I'm sorry, did you want me to give the view of the traditionalists? I can do that, but that seems boring to me. Yes. Traditionalists are upset. Old white people are upset. How could you do this to my game of the customer?

[Dan LeBatard]

The customer is upset. It's not just that's.

[David Sampson]

But you're wrong, Dan, because that's not the customer that baseball wants. We're trying to. They are trying to take the demographic lower. They're trying to age out the people who are offended by that presentation.

[Dan LeBatard]

Fair enough. Is it working? When what you get as Netflix enters into this game is what seems to be. It feels to me like universal criticism. Do I have it wrong?

[David Sampson]

I didn't take a universal poll so I wouldn't be able to put that loud.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, opening day is not supposed to start with loud criticism.

[David Sampson]

Are you using Twitter? I'm just curious. Like, is that I'm using people who

[Dan LeBatard]

are talking to me and texting me. Like, I'm getting an abnormal amount of negative reaction to opening day, which is the most positive of days.

[David Sampson]

So every year there is criticism of something that happens. Anything that's new gets criticized. When you redo your opening, for crying out loud, people are criticizing you. You opened your show today saying, oh, I guess people are looking for Baseball is back because you saw it in the comments on YouTube. I understand what you're doing, Dan, and that's fine.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not reading the comments. It was Jeremy who was complaining that we don't have an intro that baseball is back.

[Jeremy]

It is ridiculous that we don't have a baseball is back.

[Greg Cody]

The only reason why you want to. So you can sing it.

[Jeremy]

No, I would love Greg Cody's voice.

[David Sampson]

No, no, no, I do not.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, I want to serve Greg as singing Baseball's back. He wants to do it.

[Bombas Advertiser]

He probably already had a song written.

[Greg Cody]

True or not? Do you have a song written already?

[Jeremy]

Oh, well, that's gonna be a reveal for the live stream at 3pm well,

[Chris Cody]

it's a log jam.

[David Sampson]

We better hurry. Jeremy, we need.

[Chris Cody]

Tennis is back and golf is back first.

[Jeremy]

Oh, okay. Okay, good.

[David Sampson]

Jeremy, you just violated a major broadcasting principle. You just made a promise that you will reveal something in only. What is it, five hours from now.

[Dan LeBatard]

He can make something. He can make bad music.

[Jeremy]

Yes, I can. I can make bad music with the best of them. David.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me. Let me get to a couple of things that I have not gotten to here. One of them I can't wait for

[Chris Cody]

hot dog eating contest corner. Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

One of them is the way that David was received for his contributions to our show and his own show on the WNBA negotiations. David told me and he's. I don't think he has ever done this before in 20 years on this show. He says, I'd like a do over. I'd like another crack at explaining something.

[David Sampson]

And I'd like, well, that's not a do over. Dan, I'd like to understand why your social media team felt it was necessary not once but twice to double down, being maybe the worst possible teammate you could be by trying to not just impugn and incorrectly describe what was said, but to have a revisionist cutting and editing in order to make it look as though I'm some sort of hateful person of women. And anyone who knows me would obviously know the opposite of that, much to the chagrin of certain people. Used to be my life. So that is completely preposterous. And the fact that you gave platform to it and then allowed your social media team to somehow clip was. It was obviously personal and that's what you do and that's what you guys love doing. But it was a bunch of horseshit if you ask me. You want to know what I said? Horse hockey. Same thing you said. I said the same thing you said, Dan, which is the players did not win that negotiation period. That is not I hate women. That is not I hate the wnba. That is me telling you that there are parts of that deal, including the length and the lack of opt out that show me that the focus of look at how high the minimums got. Look at how great the max deal is. That sort of stuff that the n WNBA owners knew very well that was going to be part of the next deal that was not an issue. And yet some reason that gets translated into, oh God, what a hateful guy. I got nothing good to say. Let's clip it. It's ridiculous what you did, Dan, but that's fine. Do over. I don't want to do over because I know exactly what I said because I was sitting next to you.

[Dan LeBatard]

I do not know what video clip you are talking about.

[David Sampson]

Yes you do.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't. I'm off.

[David Sampson]

You did the show, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm off.

[David Sampson]

It was on your show.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am off of social media. I don't know how you got decontextual social media. I'm on is Netflix feedback and here is the sound yesterday on the show.

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If the players are not going to move on a revenue split versus derive revenue share off of a fixed number, what is your opinion on what happens

[David Sampson]

maybe the end of the wnba? The players will move. Did the player do you think the players moved or not?

[Dan LeBatard]

They moved from whatever it was 18% they got it moved to 22%. But yes, they moved off of whatever it is they wanted the revenue to be. They got a little more than they wanted. Not very much more.

[David Sampson]

No, they moved down. And obviously in a negotiation you start high and know you're going to settle for low. And I think all I was saying back then, then you hang up is that the current deal that they wanted, the current deal doesn't look like what they wanted. And I understand the victory lap. I'm happy because players take a victory lap after a CBA is done and owners don't because they know it's unseemly. So you're not going to see any leaks from owners saying, oh, we got bottom. You don't see that in any collective bargaining in any industry. Management just doesn't operate that way. And so for unions to do it is totally normal. And I'm not begrudging them that. I'm explaining that the actual WNBA cba, when you look at the provisions, when you look at what matters to management, they did not budge on the issues that mattered to them. That's all I was saying.

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[David Sampson]

Bait Don lebatard Taytas Stugats Taytas this is the Dan lebatar show with the st.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to get to what is happening with the highlight team here. What are you shaking your head about now?

[David Sampson]

What are you claiming? I. I'm off social media. I have no idea what happened in my show. It was what you're talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Chris Cody]

Dan, you know you make the edits for social.

[Sports Analyst]

I saw you in the back room

[Chris Cody]

posting and you do it with one

[Jeremy]

finger on your phone.

[Bombas Advertiser]

Just like you've gotten good at it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh no. I was twisting my mustache saying make sure to make David look bad. The worst you more hate.

[Chris Cody]

Are you wearing a monocle?

[Bombas Advertiser]

Can I get more hate on this clip?

[Chris Cody]

How do I invite a collaborator?

[Dan LeBatard]

How would you have me wearing a

[Jeremy]

monocle twisting a mustache? There's always a monocle with happily guy. Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

A monocle? I don't. Do you even wear a monocle? I thought you held a monocle up to what. What does the monocle contribute down?

[Chris Cody]

We have an important job.

[Dan LeBatard]

Check out his comedy at Marlins tv. Yeah, he's watching me with your baseball broadcast. What do you have, Mike?

[Chris Cody]

Well, I would have thought that Jeb was short for like Jebadiah or something, but that's not the case. Shocking news here from Tony.

[Greg Cody]

His name is John Ellis Bush or Jeb for short. So JEB is actually an acronym. So if we say Jeb Bush, it's saying Jet John Ellis Bush Bush.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa.

[Bombas Advertiser]

So it should be JE Bush.

[Chris Cody]

That's right. That's right. Oh, you know what time it is? It's time for high alights. Now the Cyclones are hitting a bit of a rough patch. This could be called a mid season hiccup. Or it could be called a team in total turmoil. Exhibit A for a team in total turmoil. Look, guys, we had a championship rematch yesterday. The Cyclones drew the match. Match. It's not a loss, but look at this locker room. That is bad body language. Bad vibes all around. And to speak to the vibes, here's our captain. Mind you, this was after a match win. This was Manu, a lot of good things to say.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I prefer nothing. I'm not going to say nothing.

[Chris Cody]

That is tough to hear coming from your leader, world class athlete and the and future South Beach Sessions guest, Manu. And the frustration boiled over here with Unda. David loved that against Benatrix. Show the clip. Garambola serve is dropped. Reckless behavior.

[Dan LeBatard]

Another world class F. Yeah, that's it.

[Chris Cody]

So we're GM of the year for a reason, right? We took this opportunity to put it in the group WhatsApp. That still image of the locker room saying that this is unacceptable. But you know, we boosted the guys up. We didn't want to come down too hard on them. We just got to turn these vibes around, guys. We're acting like we've lost three straight. We lost one, Drew two in a row. We're still second in the standings right now. And this team's morale is in the dumps right now because they're having a difficult time adjusting to this brand new Fronton Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

But David was a part of your live stream and how did all of that go, David? I saw that a lot of people were watching. We're trying to keep hi Alai alive both nationally and internationally. We're succeeding so far with all of the work that we're doing with the ownership of this team. How did you enjoy partaking in the live stream?

[David Sampson]

I loved it. Hailai is huge in the Philippines and Hawaii and I thought that the, the, the stream was amazing. What I love more is the group chat that Mike and Chris invited me into. And I must tell you that it's the first group chat I've ever been invited into to and so I have none other on my phone except the highlight one. And you guys are so active that I had to Google. I'm sorry to just do this to you. How to turn notifications off. How to silent a chat because it was, it was just. Yeah. How to silence a chat because I still get the red bubble number and you guys do it at all hours of the night and Mike, you have some funny comments and then there's pictures and there's videos and there's back and forth and so what I'm trying to learn and I don't want to upset you. How often is a response required to make you know that I'm still happy to be a part of it and interested in reading it?

[DraftKings Advertiser]

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[David Sampson]

But not at the cadence that you're delivering it.

[Chris Cody]

This is really interesting having someone just discover group chat and group chat etiquette. You can be quiet, you can be a tourist. That's all right, we got plenty of tourists. Chris Whittingham hasn't piped up once in that chat chat yet. He's still there like a fly on the wall.

[David Sampson]

David, that is piped up as soon as I joined but I had to give like a thumbs up to match some of the hahas. I find it very stressful when there has to be a reaction to a video and I'm in the middle of doing something and everyone has haha'd it and I want to be different so that you'll notice that I participated. So I gave a thumbs up. I did notice. I thought to myself what. I thought to myself what my thumbs. I was like, why are they going to misinterpret?

[Bombas Advertiser]

Why is David liking this photo with Mike Ikeda and myself?

[Chris Cody]

How surprised are you that the 2017 Shanghai Masters double champion John Isner is all about this sport?

[David Sampson]

I am not. I love it. I have. I don't understand several of the rules. I'm still learning. I'd like to find a way to watch it so it's not just pirated and I do want to attend a match. But I am definitely fascinated by a sport that involves people who don't to me look to be athletic. But the sport is something that I know I could never do because I didn't realize the difficulty in having something strapped to your hand and then the ability to catch it. It hurt my shoulder just doing it and then whipping it the way they do. I don't understand why you don't need a better body to be that active on the court.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris, can you just get me the sound isolated of a frustrated unda? Yeah, we got to play that for Ron McGill and ask him what kind of animal that is. David, that's not even my guess is love is pass.

[Bombas Advertiser]

Such a low volume chat.

[David Sampson]

David, of all the chats too. It's.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm guessing that there's not a lot of activity on that chat. But you're inundated by what seems like a lot of activity to you. I also feel like I need to correct you and I don't Think that Ha Alai is popular in either Hawaii or the Philippines?

[Chris Cody]

It is in the Philippines.

[Greg Cody]

It was.

[Chris Cody]

It's actively played in the Philippines. The bass country in Florida. I didn't know about Hawaii. I. I don't. I. I didn't. Well, as you know, Dan, Hawaii is a huge state for us in our show, and no one told me, hey, there's. There's a front on.

[Greg Cody]

By the way, it said. I've googled it, and they said hailai is not big in Hawaii. That was one of the answers. And also, the Philippines banned Hailai in 1986. So I don't know if they're still playing.

[Chris Cody]

No, it's back. Jack Robin is an instructor there. He's.

[Greg Cody]

1986. They had a ban. They tore down the major highlight building in 2000.

[Chris Cody]

Are you calling Robin a liar?

[Greg Cody]

I'm saying that he's taking whatever money and hanging out in the Philippines.

[David Sampson]

If I had the ability to hit. Hit the penalty box, Dan, you'd be in the penalty two minutes for stopping the show or not getting the show. I was calling back to the first hour and how popular you are in Hawaii. And don't blame me for explaining the show when you're the one who should be two minutes out of the room.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I just think that factually, if you're. Your. Your facts are important.

[Chris Cody]

Highlight, not the show we were talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

Highlight. You're making a joke that's an inside joke to only you. A joke can't be so inside that. You're the only one who gets speaker.

[Chris Cody]

One's right here.

[David Sampson]

No, because you just talked about Hawaii in the first hour. How you felt the way you feel in Miami. That you get any table you want and that you're a BSD in Hawaii

[Dan LeBatard]

doesn't have anything to do with the conversation we were having or high lie.

[David Sampson]

That's fine. Keep yourself in the chair. God forbid you could ever do something wrong.

[Chris Cody]

Can I see the video one more time? Because, like, Unda, you know, is stout, and when he's angry, it. You know, there's some physical comedy aspects. Garambola served is dropped.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that's it.

[David Sampson]

Look at that thing. Yeah, that's it.

[Dan LeBatard]

He looks like. That's a squid that's hanging from his chin.

[Bombas Advertiser]

The bad guy in Pirates of the Caribbean.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he was the. The official that took the ball straight to the ankle. He's okay.

[David Sampson]

I checked up that the. The referees are bench Players Taxi Squad nugget that I still think about every day.

[Dan LeBatard]

See you later, David Sampson. I don't believe that that's something every day.

[Jeremy]

No, I believe.

[Dan LeBatard]

I believe that that is just him lying. Nothing personal is the name of the podcast. Thank you, David. Appreciate your time. Make sure to cut all that up and edit it in a way that makes him look most bad, most misogynistic, most evil. Thank you, social media team. That is. Okay, just use the sound that he says. I never said I hate women. Just use the I hate women. And make sure to get that out into the manosphere and everywhere else so that David can be money to be made there, Dave. So that David could be.

[Bombas Advertiser]

I have an isolated clip from it.

[David Sampson]

I'm some sort of hateful person of women. I'm some sort of hateful person of women.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

There it is.

[Greg Cody]

There's something there. There's something there.

[Dan LeBatard]

An admission. See if we can get a little tighter. Get the AI people on. Make it most sinister and the largest possible betrayal. Thank you, David. Nothing personal.

[Chris Cody]

Also, he might get booted from the chat because our form is real bad since we added him.

[Dan LeBatard]

I wanna ask Jeremy what he was going for there with the monocle, because I don't assume that a monocle is worn. I don't assume the audience knows what a monocle is. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Do you know what a monocle is, yes or no? I don't assume that the verb is worn. I also don't assume that someone who's partaking in sinister behavior and twisting their mustache has a monocle. Like I don't think they do. Dan, this is ridiculous, but you're making it something that sinister. Zaz, do you know what a monocle is?

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, isn't that what, like the penguin from the old Batman TV series he used to have.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is it held or worn?

[Sports Analyst]

I think it's held.

[Chris Cody]

You can do both because you can stick it in between, like, the. The top and bottom eyelid and the real cartoon.

[Jeremy]

Rich people like Dan, they get it custom made so that it can just sit there as if it's like reading glasses.

[Chris Cody]

And I think it's had a recent surge in popularity because it does have a dedicated emoji on the iPhone.

[Barry Bonds]

Hmm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can we get our social media team, please, to more aggressively be sinister and evil to David?

[David Sampson]

I hate women.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's better. That's. That's. Let's. Let's circulate that order, please. Just order that to whoever needs that order and make sure it Gets out into the manosphere.

[David Sampson]

I hate women.

[Chris Cody]

Also, biggest example of Mandela effect might be the Monopoly guy not having a monocle. Just glasses. Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Wow. I only associate the monocle with the Monopoly guy.

[Bombas Advertiser]

I'm thinking of the guy from Ace Ventura 2.

[Chris Cody]

I think that's why people think because he goes and you must be the Monopoly guy. And he had a monocle. But the Monopoly guy does not have a monocle.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm surprised by that. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Does the Monopoly guy. Yes or no. Does the Monopoly guy have a monocle? Because I'm not kidding you when I tell you I don't associate it with anybody else.

[Chris Cody]

Mandela.

[Barry Bonds]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

I think the Peanuts guy has it.

[Chris Cody]

Mr. Peanut does have.

[Barry Bonds]

Nailed it.

[Jeremy]

That's it.

[Bombas Advertiser]

That's what we're doing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

I think that's what we're getting to here. Is that the Monopoly man never did. There are several articles about him not having it. Having glasses. On occasion. They've. They've added and removed those. But it is Mr. Peanut that has the monocle.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Peanut guy, as he said.

[Chris Cody]

Peanuts.

[David Sampson]

Whatever.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Peanut guy. We understood what it is that you meant. What are you whatever ing me for?

[Sports Analyst]

Whatever.

[Chris Cody]

You knew what I meant.

[Dan LeBatard]

Very good. I did. And I do understand what you meant. Didn't Mr. Clean just recently get retired? Speaking of these figures that are pop culture famous, I'm pretty sure that it just recently was in the news that Mr. Clean was or has retired for the first time. I don't know what kind of run.

[Greg Cody]

February 18, 2026, after 68 years of cleaning. He's gone.

[Chris Cody]

He'll be back.

[Jeremy]

He returned on March 4th.

[Chris Cody]

I ended my session with the highlight team with three words. Belief, adaptation and aggression. I've been watching so many Pete Hegseth press conferences. I should have ended it with warrior ethos.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just want to be clear for the audience that. That both Mike Ryan and Chris Cody, who are very interested in the self sabotage of the company and me, have recommended that I interview Manu on a South beach session.

[Jeremy]

What a cat.

[Dan LeBatard]

That I do an hour with Manu. Go ahead and play that again so people can hear and see what it is they want me to do.

[Chris Cody]

I don't have a lot of good

[Dan LeBatard]

things to say, so I prefer nothing. I'm not going to say nothing, Mike.

[Bombas Advertiser]

You know I have one rule to live by, right?

[Chris Cody]

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is won when it hasn't hit triple zero.

[Bombas Advertiser]

Always drink your jagermeister Ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

[Chris Cody]

Everything else?

[Bombas Advertiser]

Everything else?

[Chris Cody]

Wearing clean underwear every day, well, that's

[Bombas Advertiser]

just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth, obviously smart, but not a rule.

[Chris Cody]

Never pee pee on an electric fence.

[Bombas Advertiser]

Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completing completely. Jagermeister must be drank ice cold or don't drink it at all.

[Chris Cody]

Damn, that's cold.

[Bombas Advertiser]

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

[Chris Cody]

Drink responsibly. Jagermeister liqueur, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass. Jagermeister, U.S. white Plains, New York.