The Big Suey: The All-You-Can-Eat Buffet

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: The Big Suey: The All-You-Can-Eat Buffet
Release Date: November 21, 2024

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1. Introduction to the Episode

Hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this episode delves into a variety of topics ranging from culinary preferences to intricate sports business discussions. The hosts engage in lively debates, share personal anecdotes, and provide insightful commentary on recent events in the sports and entertainment industries.

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2. All-You-Can-Eat Buffet Debate

The episode kicks off with an engaging discussion about the merits and drawbacks of all-you-can-eat buffets, focusing on hygiene concerns, business models, and personal preferences.

• Hygiene and Practicality:

  • Stugotz [04:58]: "Covid was actually great for the buffets because it mostly got rid of them, though it's beginning to happen again."
  • Chris Cody [04:58]: Expresses skepticism about the sustainability of free refills in buffets, drawing parallels to movie theaters' refill policies.

• Business Perspectives:

  • Jessica [06:19]: Criticizes modern buffets for lacking value and quality, stating, "I'd rather just spend the money on a meal that's going to fill me up rather than have all I can eat of something I don't really like."
  • Stugotz [03:36]: From a business standpoint, he argues, "You just don't make a lot of money off it... when you do those deals inside stadiums, it's the teams that actually pay for it, not the concessionaire."

• Personal Preferences:

  • Amin Elhassan [05:18]: Shares his love for buffets but highlights inefficiencies, especially in sushi buffets, regarding utensil use.
  • Mike Ryan [05:46]: Points out the buildup on utensils from handling various food items, raising hygiene concerns.

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3. New York Times Bestseller Controversy

A heated debate ensues regarding the criteria and fairness of the New York Times bestseller list, especially in relation to Dan Le Batard's and Stugotz's book promotions.

• Fairness and Algorithms:

  • Stugotz [07:36]: Criticizes the bestseller list's ranking system, stating, "If this book is in your times bestseller, it is an affront to authors everywhere."
  • Stugotz [08:34]: Questions the simplicity of the bestseller equation: "I thought... that New York Times bestseller was a very simple equation. It was actually based on just sales."

• Host's Defense:

  • Chris Cody [07:59]: Highlights recent achievements, "the author that we had on last week... was at number four. And Stugotz showed me the picture of that at number four and him at number one in the sports category."

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4. Sports Business Insights

The hosts delve into recent developments in the sports world, focusing on the New York Jets' management decisions and a significant settlement between Warner Brothers Discovery and the NBA.

• New York Jets' Management Issues:

  • Stugotz [12:56]: Critiques the Jets' ownership, "The Jets are no different than pick your team where there's an owner that just has no idea what he's doing..."
  • Stugotz [12:56]: Expresses sympathy for Stu Gotz while maintaining skepticism about the Jets' future: "I feel terribly for him, but he's going to have a New York Times bestseller."

• Warner Brothers Discovery and NBA Settlement:

  • Jessica [12:56]: Explains the settlement dynamics, "they get to continue producing and making inside the NBA and then they license it to ESPN a broadcast."
  • Stugotz [15:34]: Breaks down the complexity of the settlement, comparing it to a three-team trade and emphasizing its uniqueness in the media landscape.

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5. Pirates' Giveaway Offer

A segment focuses on the Pittsburgh Pirates' promotional offer involving a Paul Skeen card, evaluating its value and advising listeners on potential actions.

• Offer Details:

  • Dan Le Batard [36:03]: Describes the giveaway, "they're talking about being given this card from whoever receives it, which has Paul Skeen's patch from his rookie season on there."

• Advisory Against the Offer:

  • Stugotz [36:50]: Strongly advises listeners against trading the card, "Do not do a trade... This is not like a major trade that the Pirates offered."
  • Jessica [38:03]: Questions the value, "Is that good value what they offered, like for... for the car?"

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6. Concert Anecdotes and "Irish Goodbye" Debate

The hosts share personal stories from a recent concert experience, sparking a debate on the concept of the "Irish Goodbye" — leaving a social event without saying farewell.

• Concert Experience:

  • Stugotz [23:55]: Recounts attending a concert with Chris Cody and Amin Elhassan, highlighting camaraderie and backstage access.

• Defining "Irish Goodbye":

  • Chris Cody [32:11]: Seeks clarification, "Where are the origins of the Irish goodbye?"
  • Dan Le Batard [34:06]: Suggests renaming the term to avoid stereotypes, "let's now just call it the Cody Goodbye?"

• Hosts' Perspectives:

  • Amin Elhassan [31:21]: Defends his actions, "I was just trying to avoid being the Debbie Downer..."
  • Stugotz [31:53]: Points out the practical implications, "Was forced to stay there looking for you also."

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7. Movie Review: "Saturday Night"

The episode transitions to a review of the movie Saturday Night, a portrayal of the early days of Saturday Night Live.

• Movie Overview:

  • Stugotz [38:36]: Describes the film as a detailed account of the 90 minutes prior to the first SNL episode, directed by Jason Reitman.

• Critical Reception:

  • Stugotz [38:42]: Praises the film's pacing and performances, "there is not one minute where you're not enjoying."
  • Dan Le Batard [39:09]: Compares it favorably to other musical performances, emphasizing its engaging nature.

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8. Closing Remarks and Promotions

The episode concludes with final thoughts, listener interactions, and brief mentions of upcoming events and promotions.

• Listener Engagement:

  • Chris Cody [40:05]: Promotes David Sampson's podcast, "Nothing Personal," encouraging listeners to tune in daily at 8 am Eastern.

• Holiday Wishes:

  • Katie Nolan [40:34]: Offers holiday greetings and promotes Miller Lite as the perfect addition to holiday gatherings.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Stugotz [03:36]: "You just don't make a lot of money off it... when you do those deals inside stadiums, it's the teams that actually pay for it, not the concessionaire."
• Chris Cody [07:59]: "the author that we had on last week... was at number four. And Stugotz showed me the picture of that at number four and him at number one in the sports category."
• Stugotz [12:56]: "The Jets are no different than pick your team where there's an owner that just has no idea what he's doing..."
• Stugotz [36:50]: "Do not do a trade... This is not like a major trade that the Pirates offered."
• Stugotz [38:36]: "The SNL movie... directed by Jason Reitman..."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a rich tapestry of discussions, from the nuanced evaluation of all-you-can-eat buffets to deep dives into sports management controversies and media settlements. Personal anecdotes from concerts add a relatable touch, while critical reviews of contemporary media keep listeners informed and engaged. The hosts maintain a balance between entertainment and insightful commentary, making the episode both enjoyable and thought-provoking for audiences.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

Why are you listening to this show?

[David Sampson]

The podcast that seems very similar to.

[Stugotz]

The other Dan Lerd podcast?

[David Sampson]

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Chris Cody]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[David Sampson]

I've done it.

[Stugotz]

And now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar.

[Chris Cody]

David Sampson specifically requested that Stugotts be in studio so that we could talk about his book. Stugotts just left to go do God Bless football and an assortment of other assignments. Everyone here, everyone that you see here, everyone that you hear in the room today will be at this watch party tonight. Browns and Steelers at the Flanagan's. Flanagan's is one of our favorite in South Florida. We like the partnership and we love the restaurant. I think I love the restaurant almost more than I love the partnership and I love the partnership because it helps the business. But I've loved Flanagan's since I was in college. It's a South Florida institution.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's Flanagan's, it's Miller Lite, it's us. It's a good time. I mean, Steelers, Browns is going to be on. The Panthers are playing tonight. We're going to be watching everything. It's the Flanagan's on North Miami Beach. 13205 Biscayne Boulevard. They have plenty of parking. Supposed to get a little chilly. Winter is here in South Florida. It's supposed to be like 65 tonight. So bring your sweaters and we'll be out there. Come join us. It's going to be a lot of fun.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan, we're going to be so locked in. How many rib rolls are you going to have?

[Chris Cody]

I'm hitting the nachos. I'm going to stay.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, you can order extra.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe Chicken wings. Yes. It's one of the fattest things. It is the fattest thing I've ever heard. Chris Cody. Knowing that you could get refills of nachos, when they get light on the things that go on top, if you have. Look at that. Jessica's just learning that about nachos. If you have just chips, you can send it back to the kitchen and say, fill me back up here.

[Jessica]

I've never been to Flanagan, so I'm very excited.

[Mike Ryan]

My boy.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

What is the greatest of the refills of all of the refills? Because when I learned of that refill, I had not heard of a better refill deal than that one that you can refill nachos at some movie theaters.

[Amin Elhassan]

You get a large popcorn, you eat that thing, you can get it refilled.

[Jessica]

I'll tell you, growing up in New York City, we didn't have the concept of free refills of sodas was not a thing. So the first time I actually visited my brother, who was going to school at Florida State, we went down to Florida and went to McDonald's, and they had free refills. And I remember saying, how are they still in business? Like, I could not imagine. They must be losing billions of dollars just giving away soda. There will never be a bigger moment in my life regarding free refills than the first time I realized that it cost them, like, six cents for every cup of soda they sell.

[Chris Cody]

David Sampson, as a businessperson, do you hate the idea of a free refill?

[Stugotz]

No. You just don't make a lot of money off it. You do a lot of all you can eat, and there are some people who take advantage, but the majority of people, they get full, and they don't actually end up eating as much as you'd think. But when you do those deals inside stadiums, it's the teams that actually pay for it, not the concessionaire. They keep their margin on all the food, and they keep track of it.

[Chris Cody]

How about the all you can eat buffet? How do you feel about that as a business proposition?

[Stugotz]

I used to feel better about it. I don't engage in them. My first time in Vegas was the first time that I saw that at 21 years old and the concept of a 999 all you can eat buffet. I was never the biggest guy, so it didn't mean anything to me, but I love the ones. My favorite from childhood was a restaurant called Ground Round, and that's a restaurant in Wisconsin, maybe everywhere, I don't know. And you only had to pay your weight, and they had a scale, and if you got on the scale and you were a certain age, so I'd be like, you know, for 60 cents, my family would take me there to eat.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju, do you like or have you heard of the restaurant Ground round? And also put on the poll. Do you love an all you can eat buffet? Your problem with the all you can eat buffet is just hygiene, right? It's other people being able to sneeze near your. Near your chicken.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of how that works. Covid was actually great for the buffets because it mostly got rid of them, though it's beginning to happen again. And there'd be ways where you had your individual utensil. I don't love everyone using the same utensil, and I don't love sort of the sanitary conditions that surround buffets. So if I can avoid them, I do. And I do.

[Chris Cody]

How about the rest of you? How do you feel about a buffet? Do you guys like a good buffet? I'm a big fan, obviously, of a good buffet.

[Amin Elhassan]

I love a buffet, obviously. I. When I get to a sushi buffet, I never. When I take, like, the little tongs for one sushi roll, can I just use that same tongs for, like, until I'm done? I'm gonna go to a couple sushi rolls. There's one at each one, and I feel like it's inefficient to, like, put the thing down, then grab the other tong. I'm just gonna take one tongs. I'm gonna do my business, and then I'm gonna put the tongs back at the original little tray that it was on.

[Mike Ryan]

There's so much buildup on those things when you grab different sushi rolls. Cause obviously everything is topped with different things. All of a sudden you have the one that you see everybody use that has all the residue from all the other sushi rolls on them. Dan, to be honest, okay, I used to like buffets, but now.

[Chris Cody]

Really?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Why?

[Mike Ryan]

Because one time I was at an all you can eat place, and I was looking around, I was like, what am I doing?

[Amin Elhassan]

I know what he said there, but Roy doesn't know, so disgust.

[Chris Cody]

It gives him disgust. The rest of you, Amin, how do you feel about a buffet?

[Jessica]

Yeah, I'm not really big on it. I always feel like it's not bang for the buck, especially buffets. They're no longer.

[Chris Cody]

But that's all they are, is bang for the buck.

[Dan Le Batard]

You make it bang for the buck.

[Jessica]

It used to be, but now those Vegas buffets, it's like $49. And I'm like, I don't want to spend $49 for food that's not that great. That's the other part of it is like the food is not great. It's just a lot of it. As much as you can eat of it. But it's not like well prepared, well done, well seasoned food. So I'd rather just spend the money on a meal that's going to fill me up rather than have all I can eat of something I don't really like. I used to be especially in college.

[Chris Cody]

But now I have a wife and child both with food allergies.

[Jessica]

So what Chris was talking about using.

[Chris Cody]

Tongs on different plates.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

He's spreading food allergies. Terrible. His inconsideration spreads to others. If you've got a nut allergy or whatever and some selfish. One of your sushi rolls is pecan encrusted or something, you've got a real problem on your hands.

[Amin Elhassan]

You have a shellfish allergy. Okay, I'm not creating your problem here. Why are you at this sushi buffet?

[Jessica]

Because there's sushi that doesn't have shellfish in it.

[Chris Cody]

Sampson, what did you have to offer us that Stugotts would have needed to hear as it related to his book sale? Next week is going to be our big push for the book. We're going to try and make it a New York Times bestseller. We believe our aud it a New York Times best seller. What are you laughing about?

[Stugotz]

That would be the ultimate in the Roar vs Reach debate. If Stu Gotz is a bestseller and somehow you haven't gamed the system and it really is through sales that you didn't do yourself, then that will be. That will be your number one accomplishment. Forget 20 years partnering with him. If this book is in your times bestseller, it is an affront to authors everywhere.

[Chris Cody]

What's funny about that is I got a text from him the other day. Okay. And fourth on the list in the category of sports writing was the author that we had on last week for best American sports writing. The best all over the world, not just America. Well, I guess it is America. But the best sports writing from the entire last year is chronicled in one book. And it was at number four. And Stugott showed me the picture of that at number four and him at number one in the sports category. And he's like, best American sports writing my ass was what the text was.

[Stugotz]

Here'S the thing about those rankings. You have to understand how it happens. That's like when a new podcast comes out. All of a sudden it'll be high in the rankings, but it hasn't had a lot of episodes and it doesn't have a lot of cumulative listeners. But that's part of the algorithm. And I thought, and I may be totally wrong, that New York Times bestseller was a very simple equation. It was actually based on just sales. So if you're telling me that the newness of a book would make it a bestseller and that that's a factor in that list, that that is new information to me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guys, it's all about a breakfast buffet. An omelet station at a breakfast buffet in particular, where you don't have to just scoop all of the scrambled eggs that everybody else is going to so you can get your customized omelette and then just whatever sides you want. That's the best buffet.

[Chris Cody]

That's my least favorite of the buffets. The breakfast buffet is the least favorite for even with the omelet station. I don't love in general breakfast as that's my least favorite meal as well. Among the meals, like I'd rather have a lunch buffet and I'd rather have a dinner buffet. Put it on the pole, please. Juju at Le Batard show. Best of the buffets. Breakfast, lunch or dinner.

[Amin Elhassan]

Picturing Dan at like a sad continental breakfast is funny. Like opening up one of those cereal boxes, pouring it in the bowl, third.

[Mike Ryan]

In line to get the eggs, just kind of standing there.

[Amin Elhassan]

Excuse me, do you have almond milk? Do you have any oat milk here? It's like, no, Dan, we just have 2%.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you guys ever eat at the dining hall in college?

[Stugotz]

Yes, because that was, that was an.

[Dan Le Batard]

All you can eat buffet that I took advantage of.

[Chris Cody]

Well, not only did I love that, that was my first experience coming from a small exile background of just. I walked in with a wide eyed wonder to the commissary, the eating area at the University of Miami.

[Jessica]

Dan started. They started hearing the song America.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not kidding you. The original Cuban defector, baseball player Rene Orocha who came to this country. I went with him one time when he got to the United States to a grocery. As soon as he got here, his knees gave as soon as he walked in because he's just looking at food everywhere. And then he goes to buy something for himself because it's got a happy kid on the can smiling and I'm like, that's dog food. You shouldn't have that. And he looks at me and he's like, you guys have food for your dogs here. Like, he was totally confused by it. That was me in the University of Miami commissary. Like, I'm just looking around and I'm like, I can have cereal whenever I want. I can just come in here and grab cereal. The meal plan just has perpetual cereal.

[Stugotz]

So he went. You went to the Rat Scholar. The whole world would open up for you.

[Chris Cody]

Well, no, the Rat Scheller's, the campus bar. This is exactly. It also opened up for me there because that was my first experience with liquor of any kind because I was not a bad kid in high school, so I didn't do any of that stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

Judgmental.

[Stugotz]

Jesus.

[Chris Cody]

I was 35 years old. Well, it is illegal.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, who cares?

[Chris Cody]

Wisconsin under 16 is not illegal to drink liquor.

[Dan Le Batard]

David, what are the rules in Wisconsin? Can't you drink at a bar with your parents?

[Stugotz]

I thought it was 18. But no one is cardi. And everyone on the University of Wisconsin campus in Madison, everyone is drinking as a freshman and no one cared.

[Chris Cody]

David, what did you think of everything that went down this week with the jets as they must. The entire situation must enrage you. The fact that an organization as large as the jets just gave everything over to Aaron Rodgers.

[Stugotz]

Well, they got what they deserved. And the fall guy. There's been so many articles about the GM being fired and the Athletic just crushed. Crushed Woody Johnson as they should have. Of course he's a medaling owner. Of course he makes the decisions. We talk about it on. Nothing personal on any of the shows we talk about. Every owner is a meddling owner. So what Woody Johnson did is not so out of the ordinary. You just would like a meddling owner that's better at meddling than Woody is. And it just appears that he had a bunch of thoughts in his head about Rogers, about benching Rogers, about the coach, not the coach. And what does it all mean that your organization is not going to do well. And that's where the jets are. The jets are no different than the Marlins. The jets are no different than pick your team where there's an owner that just has no idea what he's doing, not interested in learning from anybody, and just is going to keep firing people and doing everything on his whim. And it just will mean the end for Stu Gotz. And I feel terribly for him, but he's going to have a New York Times bestseller, so I don't think he'll care about the jets also.

[Jessica]

He's used to it. Let's be real. This isn't new for him. David, this past weekend we got news of a settlement between Warner Brothers Discovery and the NBA in which they would continue. They got a bunch of things out of it including territorial rights in Northern Europe and Latin America outside of Mexico and Brazil. But one of the more curious things is they get to continue producing and making inside the NBA and then they license it to espn a broadcast. How common is that in a settlement between two agreed parties for a third party to come in and basically be like a third team in a trade?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I was just going to say, I mean it was a three team trade. That's what happened. Because the privity for inside the NBA was between Turner and Disney. It had nothing to do with the NBA. And so that's like a three team trade where you figure out what's the best way to get this done. And the fact is that Warner Brothers had to settle. They were not going to prevail in this lawsuit. The NBA had very little interest in this continuing in any sort of way as a distraction. They've got enough problems with their encore product. And they also recognize that the pregame show with Barkley and Shaq and Kenny Smith and Ernie needed to continue. And they also knew they weren't going to leave Atlanta. So when you know all of those things, you then can figure out how to make a trade. And Disney and espn, they're no fools. They need a pregame show for their package. And they said we'll just literally take your show, but you do it. Do exactly what you're doing in Atlanta with the exact same people where Charles has wanted them all to keep their jobs, etc. So it saves face for Turner, it helps ESPN with a pre packaged ready to go show and their lawsuit goes away. It was really a win for all three parties.

[Jessica]

But how common is that of the three team trade style settlement in any business, let alone in media?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, no, it's not very common at all where you need a third company to come in to help. And I would argue that that actually was not part of the settlement. It was a trade that happened that made it look like a three team trade. But I view it as a totally separate negotiation because Warner Brothers recognized they wouldn't prevail in this lawsuit. They needed to save face and they needed to not bleed money by even having any of the packages. Oh, and by the way, there wasn't going to be a fourth package. So they did all this announcement of the Five year production services deal and the digital deal and Latin America, but only the places that which really you can't monetize and it all ends well. And then they did the deal with ESPN once they realized that they wouldn't have any games. This is kind of like when Disney.

[Katie Nolan]

Traded Oswald the Lucky Rabbit Rabbit for.

[Chris Cody]

Al Michaels to NBC.

[Stugotz]

I didn't know about a trade, but you can trade announcers, you can trade talent. Their contracts are not assignable generally without their permission. It would be as though you guys are under contract and you wake up one day and you're working for McAfee, that you've just been traded in that way. And I just don't know that your contracts would allow that. But some announcer deals do and some, and obviously player deals all have assignment clauses where by definition you can be traded unless you actually have a clause that says there are no trades. For me. So it's an interesting thing. And in fact, Barclay will tell you that he feels like he was traded to espn, but he's really a Turner employee, a Warner Brothers employee. He'll be paid by them. All ESPN did was license the show from Turner, the way Metal Arc licenses shows from people who own their shows.

[Chris Cody]

Katie Nolan, I believe was traded to espn. I think I have that right. Can you tell me, David, what you imagine the going rate for that show is like, what the value of that show is? I will tell everybody listening to this that ESPN has been frustrated the entire time it has done basketball programming by its basketball studio shows because the basketball studio show shows all pale in comparison to that studio show, as all studio shows do. So their ability to buy that show when Charles Barkley doesn't want to work for ESPN makes ESPN the big winner there because the NBA and Adam Silver and David Stern before him have never liked what the studio shows are, have always found them unsatisfying. And so now they just bought the biggest and the best one over Charles Barkley's objections.

[Stugotz]

Well, he can object all he wants. Danny has no say in the matter. He's an employee. But I will tell you that if John skipper on the sporting class, his view is pregame shows, post game shows, they're not drivers. For me, him talking as former president of espn, I'm far more interested in the game and the content that is the game. That said, I do believe that this particular show has taken on a life of its own, has the personalities in it that do give it independent value. However, Turner really didn't agree because they were willing to license it to espn. They were willing to get financial relief, but they're going to keep those guys and do a show with them, maybe about all sports, et cetera, but make no mistake, they were ready to get a part of those salaries off their books.

[Chris Cody]

Can you guys help me though with what you imagine the real cost or worth of all of that is like if I had to put a monetary value on the best studio show in the history of sports studio shows. Espn, ESPN wants to license that. What is the real world dollar value of that, Dan?

[Stugotz]

It's hard to say because. Are you telling me that someone would go in and be an advertiser or sponsor only for the pre and post and not for the game? They're not, they're not interested in the NBA. They're interested in just those personalities that gets tested a lot when people get their own talk shows. When people come from a group setting and try to branch off, it happens with artists and bands where they try to go on their own. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. We're going to find out because Turner is going to use Charles in a bunch of different ways. ESPN is trying to use Stephen A. In a bunch of different ways. And we just don't know whether or not any of those ways will work. So I can't give you an exact amount. And by the way, neither can Warner Brothers. They know what the expense is to produce the show and to pay the talent, but they don't allocate a certain dollar amount to it.

[Jessica]

Yeah, that's what I was wondering, David, if there was. If we, it's. We're assuming it's gotta at least offset the cost of making the show. Now some of that stuff is static and fixed to the show, like the people who work behind the scenes to it. But like you said, David, they've already announced their intentions to use their talent in other ways. So how much of a percentage of their salary is assigned to the making of this show versus all the other ways, whether it's March Madness, whether it's an all round sports show, whatever. And even by the way, behind the scenes people, those producers, those camera people, they don't just work on that show, they work on a bunch of things. So how do you allocate a percentage to that? And that's the number, that's the cost, and then that's the. Where they're going to put a margin on top of that and say, well, it cost us this much, so you need to give us that plus X. I'm with David. It's actually A lot more complicated. And I don't even know if Warner knows what they should charge for something like that.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Stugotz]

St go pee pee.

[Unknown]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Chris Cody]

David, why did I see pictures of you and Chris Cody out this weekend together?

[Stugotz]

As we were I was in Florida at Mizner park at a concert and all of a sudden I posted about it and Cody was like are you gonna be in Boca? And I said yeah. And he was there and we connected and we ended up watching concert together oar and then we went backstage and did total look at me Louie and got to hang out out with the band members which was amazing. And it turns out that Chris happens to be a lot of fun off the air.

[Jessica]

No, that seems shocking.

[Amin Elhassan]

Surprised by That I feel like the people knew that. And I will say, I don't know if the people knew this. David, a good time. I mean, David took care of me and my friend. As soon as he knew we were there, he's like, he went out of his way because, you know, like, he tried to get me into his area and he got a little pushback, but, you know, it could have stopped there. I told David, don't worry about it. But no, he texts me 10 minutes later, Hey, I got you. I got you badges. You're good to go. David was awesome.

[Jessica]

I love it. Chris is like, hey, he's a good time. He paid for everything, got us backstage and everything.

[Mike Ryan]

Incredible guy.

[Jessica]

I thought you were going to say David. We did shots and, like, he's actually really relaxed and a nice guy.

[Amin Elhassan]

David, I have no negatives. I don't know if you're looking for negatives here. I have no negative notes on David. He was great.

[Jessica]

Yeah, he funded the whole night.

[Amin Elhassan]

What do you mean? I was not there because of him. He just went out of his way to make sure that I could come where he was.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

An act of kindness. Amin, come on.

[Amin Elhassan]

What is oar?

[Stugotz]

It's a band of a revolution. It is a band. They started in Rockville, Maryland, in the 90s. They've done very well. They continue to tour. It happens to be a fantastic group. And I love them. And I didn't really know about them much, and I was introduced to them this summer. That's how late to the party I am. And I will say this, Chris, that I enjoyed being out with you, though I found as the night wore on. You did, and I'm not criticizing you because some people would be okay with this. You got a little touchy. So when we're celebrating or singing a song, I found that there was a little extra sort of body to body and hand to body contact that was problematic to me. Not because it was an inappropriate place, because any place for me is inappropriate in that way. But I noticed that there was that. So I was okay when the concert ended in that way.

[Chris Cody]

It wasn't fun.

[Stugotz]

And the other thing I'll say, Chris, Dan, that you may know this about Chris, he ghosted us at the end of the night, disappeared without saying goodbye.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's one of my moves when I'm. When I'm not driving and I'm Ubering on my own, and I'm like a lone wolf, and I know that I can leave whenever I want. I kind of have this moment. We were backstage the vibe was great. I didn't want to do the guy of like, hey, everyone, I'm leaving. And then everyone's like, oh, why are you Like, I just. The vibe was good, so I just backed that vibe.

[Chris Cody]

I feel like you're obligated to do that when someone gets you all access and pays for everything. Thank you. I'm the king of the Irish. Goodbye. I will tell you that, my friends, this has actually happened. Have been in a bar, heard the alarm go off from someone leaving through an exit they shouldn't have and been like, dan's gone. Like, heard the alarm go off. Because they're like, that's it. Dan's left. So I can do that. But I wouldn't do that to somebody who had taken care of my entire.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a fair point. And I did apologize to David, but I did feel that the vibes were so strong that it wouldn't have been like a. Okay, hey, see you later. Thanks for coming. It would have been a no, don't leave yet. Like, we're going to. And I just was like, I didn't want to be the Debbie Downer. So I was just like, let me slip out the back door, hop in this Uber and go.

[Stugotz]

Cody, Cody, let me set the scene for you of what happened. The band was looking for you said that.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't believe that. I don't believe that.

[Stugotz]

It's 100% true. Because we had. We all had to clear out and they do counting of who's back there because they don't want you hanging around. So we had the band, including Mark, the lead singer. He was there. Nice guy, the head roady guy was there. There were members of security looking for you. And we were like, yeah, the tall guy, red beard, he was there. He was.

[Chris Cody]

That's not going to narrow down at an OAR concert. That is not going to narrow it down. Red beard.

[Stugotz]

I bet they were shattered. What? Very good. Anyway, at the end of the day, we just did a full. We basically swept out the whole backstage and the lounges. The thing is, there's a lot of different rooms backstage at Mizner park, and there were different bands and there were different band members in different rooms. So Chris could have gone anywhere, anywhere. So we had to do a sweep of every room. And we were texting him. He was not answering. And there were a bunch of us trying to reach him. And finally the band manager was, I don't think he's here, but you all have to go now.

[Jessica]

Yo, I can't believe Chris that the.

[Amin Elhassan]

Tall Chris, the lead singer guy, the.

[Jessica]

Lead singer of a band that I just discovered five minutes ago was looking for you.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, I still. I question how intense they were searching for it.

[Chris Cody]

It sounds like they were looking for you. At one point, my wife did say to me, david. She said, david has tweeted that he said soundcheck and that it's magical. Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show, has a sound check ever been magical? She.

[Dan Le Batard]

100%.

[Chris Cody]

She didn't say this, but I thought to myself, that's just David showing everybody that he's at the concert like that. I don't believe it's an actual magical sound check.

[Stugotz]

That is. Your cynicism, while possibly warranted, is misguided. In this particular instance, this sound check was a little different because they were working on new material and they let us watch them as they were writing and composing both lyrics and the music to a new song. And I had never seen that before, that process, other than in a great play called Stereophonic. But generally you don't see that too often. And so I thought that was pretty magical.

[Dan Le Batard]

You couldn't be more wrong, Dan. A proper sound check of a band. I mean, come on. Bruce Springsteen sitting down at a piano by himself, playing Thunder Road with a harmonica for a limited audience. I mean, get out of here, man. Come on.

[Chris Cody]

I could be more wrong. I'm often more wrong. I am not wrong when I say that the oar sound check was not as magical as David said it was. He wanted everyone to know that he was at the OAR concert and just.

[Stugotz]

To keep repeating it, Dan, it won't make it right. But this is what you do. You get in this. You think that if you just say something more often and you say it with a different inflection, like a very serious inflection, as though now you're going to convince everyone that what. What you're saying is right. Keep going.

[Chris Cody]

I just have to keep saying it.

[Stugotz]

Was magical to me.

[Chris Cody]

Oar again and again. And I've heard of many and seen many things described as magical. If I were to make a list of all of them that I've heard in the entirety of my life, the last thing on that list would be the oar soundcheck.

[Stugotz]

Of all the things I've heard as oar, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

No, I just like magic. I like real magical things. And sound checks. Sound checks generally are not that. I also believe that you were lightheaded because Chris Cody A Good Time was going to be spending a Lot of time with you that day. And at that point, you hadn't envisioned him leaving quietly without telling anybody, because he's also rude.

[Amin Elhassan]

Can I clarify, just to defend myself a little bit with the Irish Goodbye. While David hooked me up with the band to get into his little area. I paid for all my drinks. This wasn't like David's, like, you're on my tab. I'm just defending myself a little bit here. Like, it wasn't.

[Jessica]

Not even around.

[Amin Elhassan]

It wasn't like, bottle service paid for by David. Like, I paid for all my 18 beer, and that was it.

[Stugotz]

And your tickets. I didn't get you tickets. That's what I'm saying.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, David saw me there and was like, I'm gonna get you in my VIP area. It was completely nice. All his crew is great.

[Jessica]

It was dry, though. A dry VIP area.

[Amin Elhassan]

But I didn't want that. But you guys are implying, like, I owed this.

[Jessica]

Like, kind of did.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, it was.

[Stugotz]

I don't think Chris. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesn't matter whether I paid for zero or all of it. You were there with someone else who you also didn't say goodbye to.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's true.

[Stugotz]

Was forced to stay there looking for you also.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't discriminate, mate. I just. When I'm. Like I said, when I have my Uber, when I'm a lone wolf. I do a lot of traveling with others these days. When I'm a lone wolf, I'm Irish goodbyeing. It's just how I live.

[Chris Cody]

Would you be kind enough. Would you guys be kind enough to give me the origins of the Irish goodbye?

[Stugotz]

Why?

[Chris Cody]

It's an Irish goodbye.

[Jessica]

Why?

[Chris Cody]

The Irish are people that leave without saying something more than others do.

[Jessica]

I'm gonna guess it's because they're drunk and they forget to say goodbye.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, well, I don't think Chris forgot to say goodbye. I think this was an orchestrated Navy SEAL strike of getting out of there.

[Amin Elhassan]

I was doing ripe by the party. In my mind. I'm like, I don't want to. Like, there's a vibe in here right now. I don't want the vibe. I've seen the vibe of one person's leaving too early.

[Chris Cody]

You're claiming that you were doing this for others, that this was an act of altruism, that your brother Teresa, at the OAR concert, I didn't want to.

[Amin Elhassan]

Stop the vibe of, like, oh, we have to convince this guy to stay now. Like, oh, he's leaving. Why are you Leaving the party sucks.

[Stugotz]

We wouldn't have convinced you to stay.

[Amin Elhassan]

David, you were vibing that night. If I would have said, david, I'm out of here. You'd been like, why? What do you mean?

[Jessica]

David does not strike me as ever said, why are you leaving?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, David was a good time.

[Jessica]

David, have you ever done that to anyone? Why are you leaving?

[Chris Cody]

I love Chris Cody being such a good time that he expects others and bands to beg him to stay. Telling you the whole thing is gonna fall apart.

[Jessica]

Please, come on.

[Amin Elhassan]

There were discussions about what's after that. Like, you always hear, though, what are we doing after party? Like, I heard the rumbling, so I'm just like, what? I'm done, Chris.

[Stugotz]

They were getting on the tour bus.

[Amin Elhassan]

Not the tour.

[Stugotz]

Next tour date with your crew.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, there were rumblings of, like, what's.

[Jessica]

What's happening after David Sampson's Dangerous nights crew. Please.

[Amin Elhassan]

And David can say who they were. I mean, I'm not going to out.

[Jessica]

People like, just give it. That have to be names. Give me, like, descriptions.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was Mike Hill. No, I'm kidding, my friends of David.

[Chris Cody]

It was Larry Bindfest. It was Mike Hill. And it was Jack McKeon. It was a roaring good time through Meisner Park. Get me the please. The origins of the Irish Goodbye.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it is the terrible stereotype that Amin was right about of a heavy Irish population in Boston, Massachusetts. May I suggest we now just call it the Cody Goodbye?

[Jessica]

No, the please.

[Dan Le Batard]

Instead of being racist, he rename it, I don't know. Racist?

[Amin Elhassan]

Is Irish a race stereotypical?

[Chris Cody]

Whatever it is, I don't know whether.

[Dan Le Batard]

That'S racist, xenophobic, discriminatory. I mean, you should probably read some history books. Yeah, probably.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, what does that mean? Look it up is what it means. That's Jessica. Can you help me, David, with a little better understanding of everything that's going on with my beloved Rays and their stadium situation?

[Stugotz]

What a cluster duck. So the hurricane comes, which you've, of course, predicted the end of the world. The weather patterns are all different. Climate change, etc. This hurricane was a really poorly timed hurricane, certainly for the people who lost their homes and lost their lives. Lives, that is for sure. Secondarily, there was about to be a ballpark deal that was finished for a new ballpark in St. Petersburg with a ton of real estate development. And then the drop, the roof blew off. And there's great photos of it. They're not great. Let me say it better. There's tragic photos of this building and it becoming impossible to play in. And now you've got a community where you've got to decide, do we spend money to fix up a stadium that's only going to be here for a couple more years? Do we use the money to help people who lost their homes? Do we use the money to get a new ballpark done for the Rays? All these questions are being asked and what the Rays did. Stu Sternberg, bless his heart, he said, you guys aren't good partners. We may have to relocate because you're not willing to get this stadium going right now. We got to get into the new one by 28. And then Rob Manford came out just yesterday, Dan and said, hey, let's everyone breathe. Let's everyone try to recover from the hurricane. Let's everyone recognize the weather event that took place. He played the good guy to Sternberg's bad guy, which is pre planned of course, the strategy, the best way to get the most public money.

[Dan Le Batard]

David, we were debating yesterday over the Pirates potential giveaway for this Paul Skarm and for those who don't know, yeah, they're talking about basically being given this card from whoever receives it, which has Paul Skeen's patch from his rookie season on there. And they were offering a trade of 30 years of season tickets behind home plate, playing a softball game with 30 of your friends and a whole other variety of giveaways, including Livy Dunn saying, hey, come sit with me in my suite if you're able to turn in this car card. We now have some of the details on the screen. But David, do you think this is good value or should this person take this card and try to sell it?

[Stugotz]

So a couple days ago I did a full segment on this on nothing personal. Let me sum it up for you this way. When you get this card and it's a one of one so it's like a lottery ticket, you're likely not going to get it. Go right to an auction house. Do not do a trade. Now remember, it could be anywhere. You could have someone in Detroit get it. It's like the big power mega thing that Stu Gotz plays all the time time. It could come from a newsstand in out of your hubbits. What do they want 30 years of pirates season tickets for? It's totally ridiculous. And someone did a calculation, but they did it wrong that the value of 30 years of season tickets would be greater than what you can get at auction. And that is not accurate at all. And by the way, the meet and greet with Paul Skeens, he's Got an agent. Give him 25k. He'll come to your damn bar mitzvah. You don't need to trade a card for it. And a softball game on the field. The Pirates, like every team offers that. And that's like five grand. And you can play in the outfield. You want to play on the infield, maybe 12 grand. Give me a break. This is not like a major trade that the Pirates offered. Anyone who finds this car. Do not do that.

[Jessica]

Trade a follow up here, David. For the Pirates. Is that good value what they offered, like for. For the car?

[Stugotz]

Are they doing it to give back to skins? Are they doing it to put in a museum? Are they doing it to sell themselves? Are they doing it to keep a piece of the great history of the rookie of the year Cy Young finalists who did not win. Obviously the Cy Young that was announced last night, they're doing it. It was a good promotion. We're talking about the Pirates on the Dan LeBatard show with Stu Goddess. I would say that is one nothing. Pittsburgh.

[Jessica]

Damn it, they got us good.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju, is there any possibility that the sound check at the OAR concert was mag. What is the movie that you are reviewing today? David?

[Stugotz]

I want to talk about a movie that is called Saturday Night.

[Jessica]

Oh, the SNL movie.

[Stugotz]

The SNL movie. It is a movie that is all about the 90 minutes prior to the first ever SNL episode back in the 70s with a young Lorne Michaels and a young Chevy Chase and a young John Belushi and Gilda Radner, et cetera. It's directed by Jason Reitman. Reitman, who is Ivan Reitman's son. Ivan Reitman who is passed away. And Dan, you are very confused in how you talk about Ted Turner. He's alive.

[Chris Cody]

I didn't realize I was giving off that he was dead. I didn't realize that it sounded like I was eulogizing him. Evidently, lately I've been doing that.

[Jessica]

Yeah, sounds like a fine.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I don't know what it is. Yeah, sorry.

[Stugotz]

But Ted Turner's alive and so is Jason Reitman, but Ivan is actually not. It's a fascinating movie movie of a story that is very meaningful to me because if you're an SNL fan, The history of SNL is truly really cool. But it's 70s, so if you don't like big collars and you don't like the movie stock that doesn't look hd, you may not like it, but it's a frenzied pace. It's perfectly choreographed and the actors who play the Belushi and Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd are really good at being those characters. And there is not one minute where you're not enjoying. So it's the opposite of the Ted Turner documentary. It's not slow at all. You will not check your phone, you will not be bored, and you may even learn something cool.

[Chris Cody]

The name of his podcast is Nothing Personal. You could catch him every day live at 8am on YouTube. I will tell you again, as I always do when he's on with us, that there is no single person in sports media covering this particular amount of sports and business and other things ground as David Sampson is by himself on Nothing personal every day, 8am Eastern. Thank you David Peace Howdy loyal listeners.

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