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Dan Le Batard
Welcome to the Big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to.
Dominique Foxworth
The other Dan LeBatard podcast?
Chris Cody
I'm sorry.
Dominique Foxworth
I'm not going to apologize for that.
Dan Le Batard
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Dominique Foxworth
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to.
Dan Le Batard
Nowhere, Fat face and the habitual liar.
Dave Denine
This episode of the Dan Levatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The crown is yours.
Dan Le Batard
Immediately after Rams, Seahawks on ESPN's YouTube channel on Sunday, Charlie Kravitz will be appearing, and he will also be joined by Bill Barnwell and Dominique Foxworth. That is Sunday after Rams, Seahawks also at the Super Bowl. Proceeds going to the Special Olympics. When they're in San Francisco Francisco, February 5, Charlie Kravitz, along with Marcus Spears, Kevin Clark and Mina Kimes will be doing a live show. All the proceeds going to the Special Olympics. You could get tickets@kravitzpodlive.com. it's foxworthpod live.com if you want tickets to Dominique Foxworth. Dominique, how would you feel about this? Let's play this video of poor Jordan Poole, who I now associate only with getting punched in the face. Let's play the video of Jordan pool in a classroom at a school. And the kids. You know, you just don't expect this to be something that happens with the kids when Jordan Poole is there, but this happens.
Dominique Foxworth
Who's your favorite best teammate when you used to play for Golden State.
Dan Le Batard
Golden State. I had a lot of really good teammates.
Dominique Foxworth
I would probably say Kawan Looney, who's on our team now. We grew up together, so we kind.
Dan Le Batard
Of had a relationship.
Dominique Foxworth
But Steph's up there, Clay's up there, Andrew Wiggins up there.
Dan Le Batard
All those guys are still super cool.
LeBron James
You used to watch when we were.
Dominique Foxworth
Going to say, but how did you feel when Draymond punched. Oh, my God, bro. It was tough, bro.
Dan Le Batard
How do you feel? How did you feel when Draymond punched you? It was tough, bro. Dominique, you can't expect better than that from kids. Kids can't be trusted in that situation.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, I think that there's a certain age where you forgive them, where they just, like, let anything spill out of their mouth. Those kids look older than that. That little. That little rage baiter was on to something. He. That was part of the plan. They had the camera set up and everything. They tried to get my man joined. They need to leave him alone. Let him live.
Dan Le Batard
Was there a mother there that just shouted, oh, no. Reminding me of Mike Ryan and the pity that he had towards Zaz the other day when he had trouble spitting out a couple of words where Mike is just like, oh, boy. I also wanted to bring up with Dominique Foxworth what happened yesterday with LeBron, which he really is at the point at 41 years old, where I think he cares very little after 20 years of things being said and written about him every single day. He's not just someone who doesn't care about that stuff, Zas. He's also someone who's old enough as the oldest player in the league to have the quote of, I'm 41 and I watch a lot of golf every day. Let's hear this back and forth and get Dominique's thoughts on how this is all going to end with the lake. As an ESPN.com article reports that he doesn't get along with Jeannie Buss, that his ego is outsized, that the Lakers have wanted to get rid of him for a couple of years. Is this where you want to finish this?
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LeBron James
I'm good. I'm good.
Dan Le Batard
Last two.
LeBron James
Everybody's crazy.
Dominique Foxworth
Everybody crazy.
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I'm gone.
LeBron James
See y' all later.
Dominique Foxworth
Bye.
Dave Denine
Who said bye?
Dominique Foxworth
But, I mean, I don't know. LeBron is so. His like, existence is so unique, and him as a person is so unique. It feels like at this point, he's obviously still very talented basketball player and important to team, but at some point, you're like, prestige and confidence and ego outstretches your contribution. So while he's still incredibly, incredibly good basketball player and a good piece on any team, he's doesn't have the power that he once had. And I feel like that's something that slips away, and we're watching it happen. Did you see, speaking of LeBron, did you see he had Lorraine Motel basketball shoes? Nobody else saw that.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't see that.
Dave Denine
I did. I did see that. And look, I'm not the person to opine about it, but I did hear David Dennis Jr. Had a lot to say about it. I thought it was interesting.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, yeah. I don't know. That was his attempt at celebrating Dr. King Day is shoes that were the same color as the sign at the hotel where Dr. King was assassinated. Like, of all the things that you want to celebrate or draw attention to, that ain't it. But, I mean, I think LeBron has been pretty active in social causes, so it's just a ridiculous miss. And I think that over these years, LeBron's been pretty close to as perfect as you can be, all things considered. But at some point, like, even the King is going to make some mistakes. But, yeah, they. They're sick of him. I could get. I would understand being sick of LeBron. I could understand being sick of LeBron when he's the best player in the NBA. But what comes with his, like, annoyances is that he's super talented, and now he's a little less talented. They have a new LeBron and Luca and treat him a little funny. I bet they weren't talking like that before they made that Luca trading, or they weren't talk like that when he was winning another championship. Like, it's hard when you get to the end of this, when you've outlived your talent and you've been underpaid for your entire career, and you expect to, like, be overpaid at the back end of your career. Well, LeBron is meant to. This league overall has been absurd. Like, he's increased franchise values, not just of the teams that he's on. So I get also, like, thinking everybody's crazy. Like, now all of a sudden, y' all want to talk crazy about me. Now you want to leak stuff about me when I've been carrying this whole league along with Steph and Katie and those guys for two decades. Like, everybody's been eating on LeBron and now, like, pushing back on him a little bit, I think could get a little annoying.
Dan Le Batard
We're going to play a little more sound here from LeBron, but in that article says when they're reporting that the Lakers are tired of his outsized ego. I mean, in what world would someone who's had the last 20 years that LeBron's have. Has had not have an outsized ego? Like, in what world wouldn't you become him immune to whatever people are saying in articles? Because you've been for 20 years being written about and talked about every single day in a way that has criticism in it, even though you're more excellent than everyone else is and kind of unprecedented as a player. But let's play this other sound of LeBron James talking about his relationship with Jeannie Buss, the former owner of the Lakers, who's now sold the team for $10 billion. Perspective.
Dominique Foxworth
How do you think your collaboration has been with Jimmy?
LeBron James
What do you mean, collaboration?
Dan Le Batard
Well, it's the partnership.
LeBron James
I. I thought it was good, but you know, somebody could see it another way. So it's always. It's always two sides of the coin. So, you know, like I said at the end of the day, how I represented this franchise and what I wanted to do to represent this franc so when I got here till now has been with the utmost respect and honor and dignity. And I don't say loyal to me. I've played here longer than pretty much any other franchise I play for.
Dominique Foxworth
Have you guys talked since that came out? Like, clearing the air, or is that something.
Dan Le Batard
We never talk. I don't understand.
LeBron James
Like, it's not like me and Jeannie be on the phone talking. You guys ain't never heard a report about that.
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LeBron James
Don't make something out of it that is not. It's always been mutual. It's always been respectful. Respect has always been a great partnership. But it's not like I called Gina on the phone. It's not like I called Mickey Harrison on the phone or Dan Gilbert on the phone. Come on, guys, don't make this more than what it is.
Dan Le Batard
I don't care is where that clip was supposed to end.
Dave Denine
I think the part that is interesting is, you know, I get it that he has. He can, of course, can have an oversized ego. I mean, look how he's been treated, everything he's done for all these years. But it appears, at least from the story that Jeanie Buss is looking for some type of. I don't know if gratitude is the right word, but apparently, like, I got the impression it's coming off as if he believes that he's owed everything that the Lakers have been doing.
Dan Le Batard
But. But what Dominique is saying is true. He's been underpaid every single year in the league. He is his own economy. And Brian Winhorse is now saying LeBron's options with the Lakers are a pay cut, free agency, or trade. It's not making the same amount of money. And I would. Why someone who's that valuable and underpaid. That's. That's empirical, right, Dominique? Like every single year in a salary cap league just because it's salary cap, right? Every single year. LeBron James has been underpaid in salary by his employer every year he's been in the league.
Dominique Foxworth
Absolutely. And I would also like tie on to that that we keep saying, and I'm a part of this, also keep saying his ego is outside, like it's outsized compared to other egos, but it's not outside compared to outsides, compared to his contribution. And his value. And I think when I say that he's meant a lot to the league overall in franchise values. Like when you're selling media rights deals, you have to be able to convincingly say that you have a star that people will tune in for. And LeBron's been that guy for the whole time. Like he's been the protagonist of the NBA. If the NBA was a story since he entered the league, where it was, is he gonna. Is he even gonna be good? We were all hyped up about that and it's like, can he be a champion? And all the whole off seasons have been about where he's going and what he' to do and how the balance of the league will shift. Like we know how important story lines are to basketball. His 31 comeback, like all those things taking on the warriors. Like he's always been the main character. And like that seems for an entertainment property that seems hugely valuable in a time when sports has become more valuable than anything else. So like, I get why at this point he expects people to shut the hell up. Like, maybe you're annoyed with me, that's fine. That comes with all the value that I've brought. So I also can understand the other perception where you're like, I want to win a championship. Obviously, obviously we can't pay you max money because you're not a max player and still expect to win a championship. But he feel, I would assume that he feels like he's owed and he probably is by the league as a whole, not just the Lakers.
Dave Denine
I think it's fascinating to even just wonder how this situation is going to end. And I mean, look, he was asked, do you want to finish this season with the Lakers? And he, you know, I'm good. I'm good thinking about how this is going to end. Like there's no way it actually ends within the next three weeks. Right? Like that's when the trade deadline comes. But just in general, the next couple of weeks or at the end of the season. I have no idea how this is going to play out. It feels like a completely unprecedented situation. I don't have a clue how this is gonna go down. And it's super interesting.
Dan Le Batard
He's got a no trade clause, which I would imagine he doesn't want to leave Los Angeles. Cuz the family is there because the media interests are there. How?
Dave Denine
Because his son is on the team. What I do with my son, all.
Dan Le Batard
Of the other business stuff is there as well. Let's transition here for a second to football.
Chris Cody
The Seattle Man, I had Australian open questions.
Mike Ryan
I was going to ask him about.
Dominique Foxworth
Mackenzie Gore going to the Rangers, that.
Mike Ryan
We were hitting all the other sports.
Dan Le Batard
The Seattle Seahawks have not allowed the defense of the Seattle Seahawks has not allowed a play of over 20 yards in more than a month. More than a month. No plays of over 20 yards. Which strikes me as a crazy stat. Dominique, how good is that defense? Is that defense better than the Texans defense? Is that defense better than the Broncos pass rush? Is that defense the best thing in the league?
Dominique Foxworth
Over a month? I imagine it was a month ago when they played the Rams last, which makes this matchup really interesting because I remember Puka having at least two plays of like 30 yards in that game in particular. So I would say that this defense is incredibly good and versatile. They're a top of the league type defense. I don't think they're as good as the Texans defense, that defense. I think had they made it further, we would have been talking about in all time conversations. Had they been in on a team that receives more attention. We will be treating that defense the way we've treated some of the greats in the past. That's how good I think that defense is without any weaknesses. The Seahawks defense is like a great defense for a season in my view. And they are one of the best defenses around because of their flexibility. And honestly, this is not just my DB bias. It's because their cornerbacks and and their safeties have a level of physicality and versatility that allows them to, to play in nickel all game and not be weak against the run and have their intelligence like with the route combinations, the way that they always have one extra defender over the route combinations and they cover their coverages, adapt to the route combinations that they see. And I think the, the Rams have found ways to exploit that. But most teams can, especially with the pass rush that they do have in that situation too.
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Dominique Foxworth
Took my son to the barbershop get a haircut and my man gave out some limp dap. Oh no. Damn, damn, damn. Stugats. I disowned Him. I threw him right under the bus. I was like whose kid is that out here dishing out limp dap? This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Dave Denine
Dominique. Do players watch their new head coaches introductory press conference?
Dominique Foxworth
I think they do now.
Chris Cody
I.
Dominique Foxworth
You can't miss it now. So like it's everywhere. I don't know about the entire press conference but you get a sense of how they, how they respond to it. It's big news. I'm not sure that it impacts anything. You probably already kind of have an idea of the type of coach that you're receiving. You'll watch the press conference, you'll hear some. I think unless these players are players, these days are different than they were back in my day. You kind of think that everything the coach is saying to the media is BS and you're not like looking to that to get any real sense for who you're receiving. They have to win the press conference in their own way and you're ready to like build a relationship based on what you've heard from other teammates or based on what you experience.
Dan Le Batard
So Dominique Foxworth has picked the Seahawks to beat the Rams in the other game and Mike Ryan has been talking about this championship weekend having less juice than any he can remember. But I want to throw some stats your way. Okay. Since the NFL started seeding in 75 home underdogs of four plus points are 100 against the spread 10064 straight up. And Sean Payton has coached 22 games without his starting quarterback over the past decade. In those games he's 14 and 8. And if you remove the five games with third and fourth string quarterbacks, he's 13 and 4 with backup quarterbacks. What of those numbers mean anything to you? Dominique?
Dominique Foxworth
So I'm assuming that those games were not the first start of the year in a conference championship situation. They were probably against other teams that didn't go on to win conference championships or go to the Super Bowl. But I think the all the story around Jared Stum so far and Sean Payton is like they won't take any steps back. They're going to be just as good. I think after watching a lot of the Jared Stidham tape that that's out there is he's more athletic than I expected. He's still not as athletic as Bo. Knicks, they're not going to call design runs. He's not going to scramble for 12, 15 yards. He might give you two or three or four on the scramble. So I think they don't lose they lose a big part of their game because if you watch Jared Stidham or excuse me, you watch what Bo Nicks did last week. He was cutting back, setting, setting up blocks, going for 10 plus yard runs. They're going to lose that. But where I think they don't lose as much is the deep ball accuracy. If you've seen Peyton all year long, this offense around Bo Nicks has. I want to say this in a way that doesn't feel like I'm insulting Bo Nicks, but they've been kind of short screen passes and deep bombs. It's like what they want to do. It's really simplified. They don't want them doing a lot of intermediate coverage reading and trying to fit the ball into tight windows. And this offense has depend how good their offense is, is how accurate Bo Nix has been on those deep passes. He was four of six last week's game and one, one of the ones that he missed was a drop by Sutton and yeah, they bought he had two touchdowns. That's what they want to do. They want to hit you over the head with the big bombs and not try to pick you apart. Jared Stidham, him pretty good deep ball accuracy. So I think you may not lose any of that. Combined with Peyton's scheming and play design and play sequencing, you may not lose any of that. But the athleticism, I think you, you lose some and just your first start, like there's some things about the speed of a live game that the first start hurts. So while all those stats I think should be encouraging and Sean Payton is a great coach, he's still a backup quarterback for a reason. They went and drafted Bo Nicks while he was on the roster like they didn't have as much confidence in him as I think Sean Payton wants us to believe he does.
Dan Le Batard
Now I mentioned the other day and got no reaction from this that in the history of the league, all 27,000 players, there has never been a player with a shorter name than Bo Nix. You guys want to try and see if you could come up with something close Because I'll start the bidding with Ed Reed. See if you can come up with something close to Bo Nix. Five letters. And in the meantime, please play Mad Dog trying to say the name of Denver's quarterback Jared Stidham, but he have confidence and patience.
Dominique Foxworth
Clayton getting the most out of the, out of the quarterback in this ball game Here, stick them, stick them. In this game. On Sunday afternoon against the Patriots, two.
Chris Cody
Syllable quarterbacks, Bart star Mike Vick takes The same amount of time.
Dominique Foxworth
Is Bo his real name like is. Because Mike's first name isn't Mike. Right.
Chris Cody
My first name is actually Michael Ryan.
Dominique Foxworth
Exactly. Bo Chapman Nix.
Chris Cody
Ty Law.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, so they named him Ty Law. Wait a minute.
Chris Cody
You're the first draft pick in trivia night.
Dan Le Batard
Every time Bo Nix is tied by Ty Law.
Dominique Foxworth
I was told that Ty goes to Ty.
Dan Le Batard
No, Ty goes alphabetically to Bo. I think. I think that's why Ty goes to Ty. All right, put it on the pole. Levitard show. Does Ty go to Ty in the show?
Dominique Foxworth
By the way, that stick em sound makes me think of little giants when hot hands got his hands stuck to his jersey.
Dave Denine
Oh, hold on a second, Roy. His name is Taiwan Law put on.
Dan Le Batard
The poll at Lebatard show. Did you know that Ty Law's first name was actually Taiwan? Because I'm stunned by that.
Dominique Foxworth
Taiwan.
Chris Cody
I don't think it's Taiwan.
Dave Denine
T h a u a n. It's not.
Chris Cody
It can't be Taiwan.
Dominique Foxworth
Well, his name's Ty Taiwan.
Dave Denine
How could it not be? His name's Ty. Seems not Tay.
Dan Le Batard
It's not spelled like Taiwan. It's like if Tai was Puerto Rican.
Dave Denine
Are you telling me his name's Taylor? Are you breaking news that his name's Taylor?
Chris Cody
No, it just can't be Taiwan.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, boy.
Mike Ryan
Wow.
Dave Denine
Breaking news here today. Tay Law.
Chris Cody
Taewon.
Mike Ryan
Like Taewon Walker.
Chris Cody
I think Taiwan is more likely than Taiwan.
Dan Le Batard
Cool.
Dave Denine
Didn't know we've been saying his name wrong. Taylor, Great defensive player in history of the NFL.
Dominique Foxworth
T a j u a n. I made. I made a promise to myself that I felt like every time I'm on with zaz that like I. I'm a little bit too mean to him and I make fun of him too much. And I was like, I'm not going to do that today. But man, you be making it hard, making it so difficult. Just throw these alleys.
Dave Denine
Look, I'm glad we learned something today, Tawan.
Dan Le Batard
We did.
Dominique Foxworth
Yep.
Dave Denine
To one Taylor.
Dan Le Batard
He did text me after the show last. Last week. He's like, send me Zaz's number. I want to apologize to him. I'm like, you don't have to do that. I felt bad.
Dave Denine
I mean, I will tell you, I still get. I still get people sending me memes of me next to Megamind. That's on you.
Dan Le Batard
Chris Cody asked. Asked earlier this week. He's like, we should go easier on Dave Danishek. I'm like, no, let's pump the gas on. We got. We got to press the gas on.
Dominique Foxworth
Here.
Mike Ryan
Or gas is what he needs.
Dan Le Batard
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Dominique Foxworth
No, no, you can't promote other football shows while I'm on here. There. You gotta watch the. That was very nice of you to give Charlie all that love because they be on his ass in the comments, man. They be on my boy in the comments getting them.
Dan Le Batard
Why? What's wrong with Charlie? Is there to learn all that you guys have learned from all of the producers? He's there to be the epicenter of production knowledge for you, and he does a very good job supporting you. Why is everybody attacking Charlie in the comments?
Dominique Foxworth
I don't know. Cause that's what comments do. That's what they're there for. They want to make fun of somebody, get mad at someone. I mean, he's not me. The name of the show is the Dominique Fox of Show. If Charlie ever has an opinion, they're normally very good, but people still hate them. So it's nice that you give him some love. I'm sure he'll appreciate that.
Dan Le Batard
I want to put the picture up for you of the Dolphins yesterday showing off their new leadership. And I just want your commentary here. Just photographically, optically. What do you notice about this photograph?
Dominique Foxworth
The GM and the coach look like they're related. And there's only one tie there, too. I don't know. I don't. I feel like the difference in the hair might tell us a little bit about the personality. Like, we got a Marine and then like a retired Marine where you got a little bit more length. It got some. A little curl and some cream in there. That guy looks cool. But they do look like the sons that are fighting over Steven Ross's empire, right? They're the ones that. They're the two sons that hate each other because they both want to take over.
Dan Le Batard
Anything else you notice from the photo? You don't have to keep noticing things. We can eject if you want. But there.
Dominique Foxworth
I think one other thing is Steven Ross's ears are. This look like the size of both of the foreheads. And I'm not sure which one is like. Is outsized. Like these guys. Far be it for me. Like, my hairline's creeping back too. And the shine really hurts it. That's the bad part. I noticed that about me on tv. Me, it's like when I get the shine taken care of. The hairline recession doesn't look as bad. But that shine on the left, that's making it look worse to me.
Mike Ryan
We need to bring back belt Loops and fancy suits. Stephen Ross wearing one of those suits with no belt.
Chris Cody
The.
Dominique Foxworth
I think it looks good on some people. It's just the little bit of the hangover throws. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Cody
Everybody's working on it.
Mike Ryan
I saw that first. I was like, oh yeah, relate to that.
Chris Cody
Dominique, did you know that the ears and nose never stop growing even after death? That's why Nosferatu looks the way that he does.
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, I thought it was like hair. Like hair doesn't either, but maybe not stops growing the nails, death. So how once you die. What?
Chris Cody
Yeah, it'll. It'll decompose, but it'll just ears. There's a reason why, like, you know, Robert De Niro's ears look the way they. Hey, that looks a little different than it did during Taxi Driver. They never stopped growing. Growing.
Dominique Foxworth
You know, I like, really, you know, I like interesting facts like that. I didn't know that ears and, and noses keep growing until they start to decompose even after you die. That's weird. Like it's. Something has to be alive to grow, right? I guess there are still some living cells or something in there that are still making them grow.
Chris Cody
I'm not here to be deposed. I'm just saying what I read on an uber fact one time.
Dan Le Batard
I thought you were going to go denoised there. Put it on the poll please. At lebatard show. Did you know that the ears and the nose keep growing after death?
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Dan Le Batard
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Dominique Foxworth
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
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Mike Ryan
I've learned that I'm a streaky orderer. I'm someone who, when I go to restaurants, even if I've been there a bunch, I don't love to get like, my wife gets the same thing almost every time she goes places. I'm like, I want to get to know the menu. I want to try new things. And what comes with that is sometimes I order and I don't like it. And I'm looking across at my brother in law and he has a delicious sandwich and I ordered this wrap that's terrible and soggy. But sometimes it ends up where I'm on a heater. I can order anything and everyone wants Miami because that's what you want, right? When you go to a dinner with like six people, somebody's gonna win. Somebody's gonna order something where they're like, everyone wants it. Can I get a bite of that?
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Get what you want.
Mike Ryan
That's what I mean for me. This is like, you either win or you lose when you go to a restaurant. And, and right now I'm just on a heater. I went to the zoo like a week ago.
Chris Cody
Really?
Mike Ryan
And I'm having like a lunch at a zoo.
Chris Cody
You're having a good lunch at the zoo.
Mike Ryan
I'm telling you. Everyone was getting the pizza. I got the chicken bacon ranch wrap.
Chris Cody
And everyone's like, oh, and you're doing this by yourself? No, no outside help.
Mike Ryan
Last night I went to my, my, my local Mexican spot I always go to. I got the Mexican pizza for the first time. Never ordered before. It was delicious. My wife was jealous. I'm telling you, I'm on a heater right now. I can't order anything bad.
Chris Cody
I, I turned to, I'm a creat saying to this microphone. I'm against AI, but I don't actually mean it because I lean on it quite heavily in my personal life. So I turned to AI. I wanted some Cheesecake Factory. They have such a large menu, and yet I'm always ordering the same thing. I'm like, what, Shepherd's pie?
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What?
Chris Cody
No.
Mike Ryan
Is AI what to order?
Chris Cody
I asked because it's such an expansive menu.
Mike Ryan
I've never gone through it.
Chris Cody
Have any high end food review places ever taken a look at the Cheesecake Factory menu and found some hidden gems? You know what told me have the French dip cheeseburger.
Dominique Foxworth
Really?
Chris Cody
French dip cheeseburger, Chris was really good.
Mike Ryan
I don't know how I feel about AI helping you with that, but it was.
Chris Cody
I would never order the French dip cheeseburger at a Cheesecake Factory. And it was really good.
Mike Ryan
I don't think I've ever gotten past page nine. By the time I get to page nine, they're like, all right, it's time to order. And there's. I think there's like 17 pages on this menu.
Dominique Foxworth
But if Chris believes it's a competition, I have to agree. Agree that, Mike, you're cheating. If it's a competition, you're cheating by bringing in that.
Chris Cody
Yeah. Yes. That's peds. But there was also in the results, it was also reassuring because it also won chicken madeira, which is my usual. Go to there. The pot stickers. The sauce on the pot stickers, pal. Are you kidding me? It said that's up there. Avocado egg rolls, which.
Dominique Foxworth
But you don't need to use the.
Dave Denine
AI for what slice of cheesecake you're gonna get. You could pick that yourself.
Chris Cody
No, I outsource that too. I asked Juliet, what should I have? She went to her misu and she made a great choice.
Dominique Foxworth
Peanut butter cup. I like the peanut butter cup.
Dave Denine
Always peanut butter cup.
Dominique Foxworth
Always peanut butter cup. Dulce de leche hits a little bit too, right? That one right down there on South Beach. You gotta go and eat it on your walk back to the hotel so you don't have to share it. That's the move.
Chris Cody
How are all tres of the liches good? All three milks taste that good? You kidding me?
Mike Ryan
All of them?
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please. The sauce on the pot stickers at Cheesecake Factory. My God. Yes, pal. And how are all of the liches on the tres lich? Is that good? Yes or no? I want to play some sound for you here that we played earlier in the show. Dominique of Draymond Green and What I think, you tell me. If anyone in the world outside of the Green family agrees with what he's saying here.
Draymond Green
I've played a bunch of Europeans. They do little dirty stuff. It's a different. See, people get mad at me and be like, oh, Draymond, dirty. I told y' all, Draymond, I dirty. Draymond, you up. I'm not dirty. I don't do dirty things. I play for. Tom is on. If you did dirty things, it doesn't work. I don't do dirty things. There's not a player in the NBA that can tell you Draymond's a dirty player. Don't do it. And Europeans, though, there's a lot of Europeans that play. They do dirty stuff on the basketball court. And for Deep Book and Demar to get mad like that, he's doing something that we ain't see to his credit, you got attack on D Book, you got Demar throwing out. But if you're going to keep doing that, you got to stay on that, because people going to then start going at you, and that comes with a reputation, and that's a whole different thing. So I don't know Pele Larson to be that guy. However, I don't know much about P.E. larson. If that's who he's going to be, commit to it and stay there. Because guys going to start going at you like that.
Dominique Foxworth
Are there any other places where you could get away with saying a whole continent of people are this thing? Like, that's the part that jumped out to me. He's like, them Europeans, they dirty. And I assume that Draymond said no one considers him dirty. Is he talking about actual dirt? Like, maybe he cleans his legs in the shower. He's not lazy. He does a good scrubbing. Because I think most people would say on the list of players that are famous and successful, I think you ask the average basketball fan to, like, name a dirty NBA player, I think Draymond's name might come up. Which, to be fair, what are you calling dirty? So, like, I think his point is, like, he's. He's, like, energetic and intense type of guy.
Dave Denine
Guy.
Dominique Foxworth
He never does any cheap shots. He would argue that all his nut punches were incidental, Right? Those are. Those are mistakes.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, I think. I think those are dirty. So if it's possible, they just means, like, he showers twice a day.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please. Them Europeans, they dirty at Lebatard.
Dominique Foxworth
Show, like, sub in any other insulting word in any other region, and then, like, it just Doesn't. It's. For some reason, when I hear him saying I'm Europeans dirty, I'm not offended. But I know that you could change it for just about anything else, and I'd be like, how dare you? I would call the police. Maybe not the police.
Dan Le Batard
Also, put it on the poll at lerd show. Have you ever gotten through the Cheesecake Factory menu? Because I think Chris Cody is right when he says you. I mean, at some point, you just got to stop reading. You can't go through the whole thing.
Chris Cody
No, it's tough. That's why you have to outsource it.
Dave Denine
I got a great chefs there.
Chris Cody
Dude, do you know about that French dip cheeseburger?
Dave Denine
Yeah, I know.
Chris Cody
You knew.
Dominique Foxworth
Roy pulled it up.
Dave Denine
You've had it about it.
Mike Ryan
I've had the Mac and cheeseburger.
Dominique Foxworth
It sounds like we got a Chris Cody social media, like, series. You got to try everything on a Cheesecake Factory menu, like, every day. You got to go get something new on a Cheesecake Factory menu and keep us going on.
Dan Le Batard
He'll be dead. He'll put it on the grid. He'll be dead. He'll be dead before he finishes the menu. Like, it'll just. He will just die before you're finished with that. It's too much.
Dominique Foxworth
You just got to grade them all, like, every one to 10, every item on the Cheesecake Factory menu, including each cheesecake. And you could do multiple in a day. How many? What do you think? It's 100 things in that. In that booklet. More than that. 200.
Chris Cody
The next live stream, this will be a running thread. We will order everything on the Cheesecake Factory menu. You can have a bite of or two of everything.
Dan Le Batard
That's a workplace violation. He'll be Morgan Spurlock. It'll eventually kill him, but it's just.
Mike Ryan
One bite I'm seeing here. AI is telling me that there are over 250 items on the Cheesecake Factory.
Dominique Foxworth
And you got to rank them. I like it. So we'll get all the items. Items. And then we'll make little placards for each of them. And you can change the ranking through the course of the show as you take. As you taste each item.
Dave Denine
No, I think you got to do, like, blind rankings. You know, you try something and then.
Dominique Foxworth
You put it on.
Chris Cody
He doesn't always. He's never done this before.
Dan Le Batard
I wouldn't mind a Cheesecake Factory draft, though. Who's your number one overall pick? Because you're now saying you're going with the French dip hamburger because AI told you to.
Chris Cody
I'm saying that's a hidden gem. Chicken Madeira. If we're talking entree, my gold medal stand right now is chicken Madeira gold. The chicken Marsala silver French dip, cheeseburger. A shocking bronze medal.
Dominique Foxworth
I mean, I think this might be a two Americas, but a sneaky move there. Strawberry lemonade high on the menu.
Mike Ryan
It is two Americas.
Dan Le Batard
You can't go liquid. You can't go to the. Wait a minute. Put it on at Levitar show. Can the best thing on the cheese Cheesecake Factory menu possibly be a liquid Shocking. What you just did there. What you just did there, that's not. To America's. That's you being counter. Counterintuitive in a way that's aggressively annoying.
Dominique Foxworth
Let me tell you this. So There was a 60 Minutes thing a long time ago when Magic Johnson was first, like, becoming the businessman that he. That he is. And they were talking about the Magic Johnson Theater.
Dan Le Batard
It's a good story right here. This is a good story on Magic Johnson's business genius. Yes, I do know how he made the theaters popular for black people. Go ahead, though. I can't tell the story, but you and Magic Johnson can.
Dominique Foxworth
I don't remember verbatim what he said, but I remember the piece, and it jumped out to me. I was young at the time, and I never forgot it. And it was. They were like, you put these theaters in these black neighborhoods, and why are they so successful? And essentially, Magic Johnson was like, black people like fruity drinks. You go to the regular theater, it's just soda. It's just Coca Cola. But I put flavored drinks in there. And that was the key to making the Magic Johnson theaters pop, according to Magic Johnson.
Dave Denine
I remember he said his Starbucks, he doesn't sell scones.
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, scones. Scones are a joke.
Dan Le Batard
The quote, I believe, is black people like flavors. I believe is what the direct quote is on Magic Johnson. And you can like flavors. It's still offensive to me that I just gave you the entirety of the Cheesecake Factory menu and you chose strawberry lemonade. Like, that's just not.
Dominique Foxworth
It's gotta come up. No, you're probably right. It's not number one, but it's gotta come up. You can't talk about the Cheesecake Factory without, like, at least mentioning the strawberry lemonade. It's so sweet. It's a little too sweet for me now at this age, but in my 20s.
Dan Le Batard
Oh.
Dominique Foxworth
First thing when I sit down, before I sit down, I'm telling the hostess, get me my strawberry out here. Asap.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know if you heard the show earlier this week, but the most raging argument of the week that broke out was Cody, Jeremy and others making the arguments on behalf of sugar free drinks being either as tasty or close to as tasty as drinks with sugar. And I just had never heard it said anywhere else. I thought we all understood that the sacrifice for better health on sugar free stuff is that it was going to taste less good.
Dominique Foxworth
You're saying college basketball is better than NBA? It's just nonsense. No, that's not what's happening here. It's exactly what's happening. Like it's the whole point I get. I heard the argument. It's a different flavor, it's a substitute, it's meant to imitate. It's a want to be like. I can't imagine anybody like thinking that the Backstreet Boys are better than New Edition. They are all just replacement wannabe, watered down versions of the original. Which probably to be fair is the Jackson 5. You out here talking about new One Direction as it compares to the Jackson 5 and you think we supposed to accept it now?
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That's two Americas.
Mike Ryan
A new Harry Styles out today, guys.
Dominique Foxworth
You hear it?
Mike Ryan
You hear it yet?
Dominique Foxworth
You a Timberlake guy too, huh? You like? Yeah, obviously dude. Justin Timberlake Vers Prince. I'll take Justin Timberlake. That's you.
Dan Le Batard
In the food category. Since we're at it, let's show 94 year old William Shatner eating cereal in the car and get Dominique Foxworth's thoughts on the weirdest thing that he has ever eaten in a car. I shamefully admitted to chicken wings. That is not something that I should have been eating in the car. I couldn't wait till I got home. I just opened it up and started eating chicken wings in the car. Do you have a shameful admission on this front, Dominique?
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, but I can't share it. But the, the idea. I've never been so hungry or in so much of a rush that I had to eat while I was driving. I just. I've like your breakfast. So that's the thing is like he was so hungry and time was of such an essence for a 94 year old man. Wherever he had to be was so important that he had. He couldn't finish his cereal and he was so hungry that he couldn't make it to whatever meeting or thing he was going to. That's the thing that blows my mind. So like I'll buy food and eat like on the way home, but not cereal like that to me, I would either. If I woke up late and I can't have my cereal, then I wait till lunch or wait till after my meeting, or I stay home and finish my cereal and I get late.
Dan Le Batard
I have never known. I have never known you to not answer a question. How shameful must it be the food that you won't answer the question?
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, it wasn't food. It was a joke for people who were paying close attention. We don't have to get. We don't have to dig too deep. Dang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you ruined it. Now it's awkward for all.
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No, I'm saying, though, he's eating cereal with milk in the car. Just eat it raw.
Dominique Foxworth
You don't have to have raw drinks.
Dave Denine
Raw dog is cereal.
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Yes.
Chris Cody
You know, most of the food at the Cheesecake Factory is pre assembled.
Mike Ryan
That's not what their website's like.
Chris Cody
They're usually like, just like warming stuff up.
Dave Denine
So there aren't like, good chefs back there.
Chris Cody
Like, very few of the food items on that menu are made on the line.
Dan Le Batard
Why do you need artificial intelligence's help here on the ordering of. You just want.
Chris Cody
Because that menu, that menu is so expansive that I have like eight things that I go to. You're overlooked stuff, and you overlook stuff. I'm like, all right, I was in an adventurous mood. I'm like, tell me something that I'm missing out on, something that I'm always like, that can't be good here, help me out. And by consensus, the French dip cheeseburger was like, really good. And I can tell you thank you, chatgpt, because you came through for me.
Dan Le Batard
But couldn't you just Google that? Yeah, you distinction you're making between artificial intelligence, ChatGPT and Google.
Chris Cody
I use it like a search engine because what it does is it compiles all those things that you find on a Google and it gives me the Glengarry leads.
Dan Le Batard
Before we get you out of here, Dominique, can you give me your thoughts on Mike McDaniel evidently having the Chargers job and also having so many options that he continues to take interviews in the event that Baltimore, the Raiders, or the Bills want to hire him as their head coach?
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, I mean, well, Baltimore's too late now. They picked up Jesse Mentor, but I mean, I think that's what happens when you are like the.
Mike Ryan
The.
Dominique Foxworth
The hottest guy at the party, which is how he feels right now. Offense is always going to be over, like, appreciated. I think it's probably wrong. The intelligence of offensive coordinators is overvalued. And what he was able to do while he wasn't successful in Miami, what he, what he was able to do with the offense, I think was pretty impressive. Especially being able to manufacture a running game without like a dominant offensive line is something that's hugely valuable. So every time team would assume that if you had him just focusing on your offense, you'd be much better off. So I'm not surprised by it. I guess when you look at the big picture of like how he was a failed head coach, it's weird that some people might be considering him as a head coach, but the value that he brings and presumably he's got, he's a smart guy that he's gotten much better. I think he's one of the more attractive candidates out there. Unless you want to start with someone who doesn't have have as much experience. And and also Roy, you got to really trust your cereal if you eat it raw, man.
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Yeah, I mean Frosted flakes.
Dominique Foxworth
Let's go trust them. Trusted frosted flakes.
Dan Le Batard
You mentioned the overvalue of offense. I mentioned this stat yesterday. In the last 55 years of football, this Rams Seahawks game is number one scoring offense versus number one scoring defense. That's happened nine times. And the top defense, I'm sorry, eight times. And the top defense has won seven of those games. Defense always wins though.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Dominique Foxworth
And then they change the rules afterwards to make it harder. It takes us a few more years to catch up and then they change the rules again. Get ready. Watch through the the competition committee this and next offseason because these defenses are getting a little too good. I I think defense like honestly it football, as much as we like to talk about all the scheme stuff and intelligence and play design and all that, there's one thing that kind of trumps everything and we talked about it in a national championship game. It's physical physicality. And if you can be physical which defense is more focused around physicality. If you can be more physical, I think that helps and it makes all your other schemes a lot easier and more effective.
Dan Le Batard
Dominique, nice seeing you. As it always is. I will remind the people again proceeds for the live show that he'll be doing February 5th from the super bowl in San Francisco go to the Special Olympics and It is is foxworthpod live.com foxworthpodlive.com if you want to see him look good in person, if you want to sniff his general arrogance. Foxworth Pod General.
Dominique Foxworth
You had me nervous right there. Sniff the general. That. That's it was it got me a little concerned. Oh, boy.
Episode: The Big Suey: The Assault On Charlie Kravitz (feat. Domonique Foxworth)
Date: January 23, 2026
Host(s): Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Featured Guest: Domonique Foxworth
This episode of The Big Suey, recorded at the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, brings together Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and company, with a special guest appearance from former NFL player and analyst Domonique Foxworth. The panel covers NBA drama (with a focus on LeBron James and Draymond Green), NFL playoff matchups, sports media dynamics, and even deep dives into the social experience of ordering food at restaurants like the Cheesecake Factory. The podcast delivers its signature blend of sports insight, pop-culture banter, light roasting among friends, and unexpectedly sharp social commentary.
Jordan Poole Confronted by Kids about Draymond’s Punch
LeBron James’ Legacy & Lakers Fallout
LeBron & Jeannie Buss Relationship
Seahawks Defense, NFL Playoff Matchups
Do Players Watch Head Coach Press Conferences?
Jared Stidham vs. Bo Nix
Shortest NFL Player Names
Assault on Charlie Kravitz
"Ordering Heater" & Food Competition
Cheesecake Factory Menu Challenge
Cheesecake Factory Draft
Mike McDaniel’s Coaching Candidacy
Dominique Foxworth on LeBron’s legacy:
“He’s been the protagonist of the NBA...for the whole time...like, maybe you’re annoyed with me, that’s fine. That comes with all the value that I’ve brought.” [09:10]
On online criticism of Charlie Kravitz:
“That’s what comments do...they want to make fun of somebody.” —Domonique Foxworth [23:49]
Le Batard on Cheesecake Factory menu challenge:
“He’ll be dead before he finishes the menu.” [35:20]
The episode flows with the show’s consistent irreverence, candid humor, and lightly adversarial camaraderie. Dan and Domonique lead with wry wit and deep sports insight, while the supporting cast (Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, Dave Denine) interject with pop-culture, food takes, and running jokes that keep the mood lively. Listeners unfamiliar with Le Batard’s ecosystem will still find plenty to latch onto with the sports analysis, culture commentary, and relatable food tangent.
“Put it on the poll”:
Menus, food ordering as competition, and the perils of using AI/Google for life advice all get the show’s signature satirical examination.
This episode is quintessential Le Batard: insightful, rambunctious, touching all corners of sports and pop-culture while never missing a beat on audience interaction and quick banter.