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Dan Le Batard
Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Billy
I've done it.
Dan Le Batard
And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
Mike Ryan
This episode of the Dan Lobatar show.
Billy
Is presented by DraftKings.
Mike Ryan
DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
Dan Le Batard
Can you guys get me Nick Turturro or the Kid Marrow or somebody from New York over the course of this show so that I could just make fun of the Yankees and celebrate it all day? And speaking of celebrating the failures of others, can you guys please find for me credible reporting on Bill Belichick? Because I keep seeing that he's discussed his buyout with North Carolina and that he has signaled that he might be willing to trigger the $1 million buyout. So the whole experiment won't last very long. Would last the equivalent of about a month. But is that real? What's the real reporting on that that's most accurate on? Is Belichick trying to just get out of there?
Mike Ryan
Well, let me say that Ali Conley, despite how certain North Carolina fans may feel about him, is reputable on the Bill Belichick front. His reporting on this at the time of his signing was accurate. Ali Conley, for those that don't know, once listed the Duke as one of the greatest NFL insiders on the planet.
Dan Le Batard
Not once. Twice, as Billy corrected you on and. Well, was it just twice? I thought it was three times. And each ranking was higher than the previous one. The Duke. The Duke rose to fourth greatest international football insider. That's as high as it got. And I thought it was going to get to number one because that. That progress was linear. It was straight up. It didn't bounce down.
Billy
Well, what ended up happening, to my understanding, is Ali stops covering football, so the list stops. So I think it's kind of like, you know, former Heisman winner, whatever. Like, you're always a Heisman winner. So, like I will, because of the fact that there's been no updates to list, I will always, I think, be the fourth highest, you know, whatever football something that Ali did. Now, Ali was all over this initially the first time around and this second time around. I have taken great joy in. In Texting friends from North Carolina saying, like, this. This Ali. He's telling us what's going on here, and he's saying, bill's gone, and they hate Ali in North Carolina. They're like, he's so full of shit. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I was like, it was right. Right there the first time around. I believe Ali, which is weird because he's, you know, to my understanding, British. And I don't know how it is that he has contacts and knows exactly what's going on in Chapel Hill.
Dan Le Batard
He has tweeted, and it's credible enough that. That it has more than 10 million views. Because whether you think he's a credible insider or not, he's reporting, per sources, that Bill Belichick has discussed buyout options with North Carolina's hierarchy, and he has signaled the willingness to trigger his own $1 million buyout if he can find a soft landing with another team or in the media. Please put it on the poll. Juju at lebatard show is Billy indeed the fourth highest. Whatever, football, whatever, insider, whatever.
Billy
I had one of my most awkward public moments. Ollie Connolly at the Super Bowl, I think, like, two years ago, because he came up to me. It was the last day, last day of Super Bowl. You're always like, you know, just trying to get to the flight, basically pick up everything. It was, like, late in the day, and he kind of, like, appeared. He's like, hey, what's up, Billy? How's it going? Like, oh, hey, how's it going? And I was, like, half paying attention. Whatever. He's like, I'm Ollie. I was like, ollie. And then I was like, can I give you a hug? And I gave him, like, this big hug, and I could tell he very much did not want a hug for me. He's like, sure. Like, I guess, like, whatever. And I gave him a hug. I'm like, man, like, it's so great to meet you. I'm so excited. And blah, blah. He's like, all right, okay, I got to go now. And he, like, left me because of how awkward I made things.
Dan Le Batard
Well, it's funny that you should mention that on a couple of fronts. One, Ali Connolly is Mina Kimes guest on her podcast the Mina Kimes show, featuring Lenny. And so if she respects him, you should as well.
Mike Ryan
But when you bring up that story, respect Ali Khan.
Billy
Yeah. What?
Dan Le Batard
I meant the audience.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. He's incredible.
Tony
From the Guardian.
Billy
Like, he hugged the man. I hugged him. Okay. I don't just hug anyone.
Dan Le Batard
Mike has Additional reporting on this. But to that point, and perhaps you guys will be surprised that this as well, you don't just hug anyone. And this week, you and I hugged at my instigation, and I felt the way that you felt around and with Ali, I felt like you didn't want that hug.
Billy
I'm a. I'm a good hugger. I give a good hug. I just don't know when it's appropriate to hug and when it's not. I used to be a hugger. Like, I do this. I do like the hello hug that. You know, Hispanic culture is very tricky with the hello kiss. Like, we're just. We're not going to beat around the bush on that one because you, you know, you don't know. Is it presumptuous to give a hello kiss when you grow up? You're in high school, whatever. Hello kiss, hello kiss. But then you, like, leave your bubble and you're no longer dealing with only Hispanic people, and you don't want to give hello kisses to people who don't understand.
Ali Conley
And then Covid.
Mike Ryan
Part of the COVID hurt. The. The hello kiss. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
He's so right about this, though.
Billy
I don't know who, like, what is our. Like, I. I try to meet a person's greeting with what they are comfortable with, and that often, I often miss the mark. And it's not like I missed the mark where I've gone too far. It's I miss the mark where I make things uncomfortable because it's like, oh, like, this is a hug thing. Is this like a hello kiss thing where, like, you, like, make a kiss sound and you touch cheek to cheek, but you don't actually kiss the person's cheek?
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Billy.
Billy
Weird.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you for bringing all of this up. We will get to Mike Ryan's new information on Bill Belichick. He has additional reporting on this. But I do want to tackle both of these things. You're saying falsehoods. You're saying you received and wanted that hug from me Because I felt like while you may have one day been a hugger, you are no longer a hugger because you've been scarred by. By niceties in society that have knocked both the kiss and hug out of the Latin man.
Billy
No, I mean, really, if we're going to be honest, what's ruined the kiss and the hug is sexual predators. Like, let's be fair there. It's not nice. It is. It's not that the world's become, you know, more rude. It's. Yeah, it's like, you know, the predators out there that make people uncomfortable, where it's like, this is just a greeting. There's no. No further requests on my end for where this shall go. I'm just saying hello because this is how I was raised. This is part of my culture. The hug also, I will say I have a sty at the moment, so I'm trying not to get my face too close to people. Yeah. The good thing about glass is the glasses hide the sty a bit. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Anyway, the hug I gave you, was it wanted or was it not?
Billy
Yeah, it was well received. It was fine. I'm out of walk around wanting hugs. I accept hugs should they come my way.
Dan Le Batard
Tony, do you have this problem in either feet or. Pierce, do you have the problem of coming up to somebody, greeting them with a kiss the way Latin men do? Because I've had this knocked out of me. I've had it knocked out of me on a couple of fronts. One, by people expecting the second kiss on the second cheek.
Billy
Yeah. Where were you? That's not.
Tony
That's your.
Dan Le Batard
No, I'm saying. I'm. I'm saying that what ends up happening is once I go in for the first kiss, there are certain members of society that then expect the second kiss, that I'm not coming in to give the second kiss. The first kiss is all you're getting Latin style. But many people don't want that either. And now I'm gun shy.
Tony
Yeah, well, again, we run in different circles, Daniel.
Billy
Yeah. The two kisses at Tapa Volca, if you. If you go and you give someone, it's like, then you're being a frick. When you're really trying to see how much you can get away.
Tony
Exactly.
Billy
Right.
Tony
You're trying to get an extra. An extra little kiss in there. If you're over in Europe, two kisses. Okay, you go two kisses.
Jeremy
Right.
Tony
If you're in Miami, one kiss.
Billy
Right.
Tony
I don't have it. I don't have an issue with, you know, I'll go up. I gave Mike a hug today for his birthday, so I have no issues with intimate touch when it comes to greetings.
Mike Ryan
Kiss Mike, what is this, a generational thing or something? Maybe it's because you're older and that.
Billy
This new generation is like, no, we're not accepting that anymore.
Tony
No, no, we accept it. We still do it.
Dan Le Batard
I think in Latin culture. The reason I was asking Tony is because I'm assuming he's almost only exclusively running in Latin school.
Tony
I don't shake hands. Like, I only Shake hands with people. I don't know, like, hey, how you doing? Okay, great. I'm gonna shake your hand. But, like, if it's somebody that I know, if it's an extended family member, even if it's somebody that haven't seen in a long time, like, I'll go in.
Dan Le Batard
No, but this is where I make the mistake, though. I will, by way of greeting simply because I'm Latin and got grandfathered in. People I'm meeting for the first time, I will go in for a kiss. And I don't think that's acceptable anymore.
Mike Ryan
It's still acceptable.
Tony
I do the same thing.
Dan Le Batard
I'm with Billy on this. What's the new reporting that you have for us?
Mike Ryan
I want to add to Ali Conley's reports because most people just read that, that first tweet of his, but there's a lot of detail here, and it tracks with how these things go, folks. So there were. He goes on to add, members of Belichick's coaching staff have already spoken to other schools. That's a pretty big one. And I'll explain why later. And add that to another tweet that he has. The rats are, quote, leaving the ship. Some staffers believe a change will come within two weeks. Reports of serious recruiting violations remain under investigation at unc. Recruiting and practice violations have already been proven by the school. According to multiple sources, using recruiting violations to knock down a coach's buyout has become standard practice. Once again, totally accurate. Just learning from history from Ali Belichick's communication with his staff over the past two weeks has been described as weird and distant by multiple members of UNC's coaching staff. Multiple coaches were unable to get a hold of him during UNC's bye week. This is where I have something to add, because I have spoken directly to people that were happen to know. Yes, I happen to know that I've spoken to people that were around that program. When Bill Belichick was both flirting with UNC and then assembling his staff over there, there was a moment in time when Bill Belichick was already on UNC with a Dallas Cowboys job went open. And Bill Belichick wanted that job. And this echoes exactly how he treated the rest of his staff at that time. He was weird. He was distant because he was actively going for that job. This has happened a couple of times where everyone knows he wants to get back to the NFL. I hear that, and it tracks with what I heard from before. Uh, and the. The coach himself who has been photographed in Nantucket with Jordan on a bi week. Strange time to take a vacation when you're underwater with your program. He came out with a statement saying he was fully committed to the program. The program backed him up. There you see something like that and you know, you know, there's something to the rumors right now this is not going well for Bill Belichick. And yesterday I turned to my left and I said, what would we handicap? Bill Belichick actually returning next season to North Carolina? This is starting to get messy, folks. Ali's a good reporter on this, on this beat. Like, if Bill Belichick does come back to North Carolina, I expect him to tread water over there for a couple of months and then deuce out. Like, that's always kind of been the plan. He was hoping to rebuild his coaching credibility and get back to the NFL. Unfortunately for him, his ego and those around him, it is not going the way he thought this would go, and it's hurting his chances. He's probably better quitting now than further cementing his name as a failure.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my God.
Mike Ryan
He knows.
Billy
He happens to know.
Mike Ryan
Come, everyone, come and listen.
Billy
He happens to know. Well informed.
Dan Le Batard
You said cryptically that you turned to your left and had a conversation about next year. I would think at this point, the Flames have gotten high enough in terms of legacy destruction that most people listening to this do not expect him to last the year.
Mike Ryan
It's a capitulation, Dan. Sometimes you're on a stock that's tanking and you decide, I don't want to lose at all. I'll just save like 20% and over time that'll be fine. And I think he's giving serious consideration to saving face and getting out while he still can, even though I think it's pretty tarnished.
Billy
I mean, does he look better by quitting in the middle of the season? I don't know that that makes him look any better than just finishing out the year and saying, you know what? I retire. This isn't for me, or whatever.
Mike Ryan
I think adding more Ls doesn't help his cause of ultimately trying to get back.
Jeremy
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Dan Le Batard
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Billy
Don LeBatard, Bob Kraft.
Dan Le Batard
The only reason your organization is good.
Mike Ryan
Is because of Bill Belichick.
Billy
St. Belichick has done nothing since since Brady left. He made the playoffs once. I think at the very least he.
Dan Le Batard
Should not be a first ballot hall of Famer.
Billy
They should make him wait like 10 years to get it.
Mike Ryan
He's an overrated coach.
Billy
This is the Dan lebatar show with the st.
Dan Le Batard
I need to stop Mike though, when he uses the language of kind of tarnished or. I mean, you said it's not good. It's a good deal worse than that. I do not have anything close to precedent on what I've witnessed happen to Bill Belichick in all of five games. Like we could sit here and I can do these stats as an example. Andy Reid Without Mahomes is 60 games over.500. He's got 13 with. This is without Mahomes. This is Andy Reid without Mahomes. Better to do it in this order than the order that Belichick did it in without Mahomes. Andy Reid, 60 games over 500, 13 playoff berths, eight division titles, one Super Bowl, 11 playoff wins, eight top 10.
Mike Ryan
Offenses, one Super bowl appearance.
Dan Le Batard
Yes. Thank you. Belichick without Brady. 20 games under.500, two playoff berths, zero division titles, zero Super Bowls, one playoff win, zero top 10 offenses. So I can give you those numbers, but none of those numbers stick to Belichick the way these five games stick to Belichick. You guys are doing legacy and I don't know it hurts him that much. I can't believe how much it hurts him because I say these five games make it hard for him to get a pro job that he wants one with power cuz he had to interview twice in Atlanta and didn't get that job. I think these five games unmask him. Like, it's not just that you don't want Belichick. You don't want the fool who's got the 20 year old girlfriend wandering around your program. You can't give this power anymore. The only thing he gets is a media job or a coordinator job. I don't believe he's allowed to run a program anymore.
Billy
Yeah. But in the grand scheme of things, things, he's still one of the greatest coaches of all time. Like, this is just going to kind of be a footnote. Like, we never talk about how much of a failure Nick Saban was in Miami between stops at college. He's still going to be remembered as one of the greatest coaches ever.
Tony
But that's because he had massive success at Alabama after failing.
Billy
Right.
Tony
Like, there's no success for Bill Belichick after this.
Mike Ryan
Here's where it's. Here's why I do think Bill Belichick should get out now. Because Bill Belichick, outside of the success, is also known for a certain mentality and the Patriot way and zero distractions. This has been a total circus. This right now just adds to the circus. We wonder, how could it feel more like a circus at North Carolina in the middle of the week, you have reputable reporters saying you're trying to find your way out and you're going on vacation with your girlfriend and your school has to put out a statement saying the dreaded vote of confidence, this is bad. Get out while you still can.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not actually doing what Billy's doing. I think Billy is correct when he says once we step back from the flavor or the scandal of the moment, the way history will remember Bill Belichick is as one of the greatest coaches ever.
Billy
Like Pete Carroll, too.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not disagreeing with that part. It's also the part that I find less interesting because we can argue all we want about people's legacies and Conan o' Brien will stand over the grave of Calvin Coolidge and be like, when's the last time anyone talked about Calvin Coolidge? Coolidge, yeah. Belichick will be one of the greatest coaches ever. I'm talking about the right now for Belichick and how it must be for one of the people who truly believes himself to be one of the great coaches of all time to embarrass himself so much that even before this, Atlanta was saying, now we'll go. Raheem Morris, you'll need to interview two times.
Mike Ryan
I have to stop you there Because I also happen to know what happened with Atlanta a little bit. You're putting it too much on Atlanta. While they may have deduced that after the whole pursuit, a lot of what happened with Atlanta was Bill Belichick not wanting to follow through with it, thinking he could get a better situation because he didn't want to have to do the things necessary to become the Atlanta Falcons head coach.
Dan Le Batard
Mike, my. My larger point is one of the greatest football coaches ever is not welcome back in this world because he's made a fool of himself on and off the field for five games. It took five games. Whatever the details around Belichick in Atlanta, Belichick couldn't get any job that he wanted this offseason, so he settled for one in the minor leagues. And games later, he's in a worse position than he was five games ago. Because now who wants to bring any of that in? You tell me. Jerry Jones is willing to be so small and petty that he's actually appealing that $250,000 fine. If Jerry Jones wanted Bill Belichick five games ago, you think he still wants him?
Billy
Stephen Ross, I'd take him. Honestly.
Mike Ryan
There's so many. There's so many Dolphin fans came.
Billy
Or Rex Ryan. I mean, it can't get much worse. I mean, Two is out here saying, I don't care if I throw touchdowns or interceptions because I just have a happy family. Buddy care, lye serum. I keep telling you guys, inject Tua with lye serum because he keeps saying all of the wrong things. I'm so happy that he has found happiness and he's centered and he has a stable life. Don't tell me about it, okay? Don't tell me about how happy you are, because I'm not happy. I mean, I am happy. My family's great and all that stuff, but I'm not happy with this Dolphins team.
Dan Le Batard
Do we have the sound of Tua having life perspective on? He's on IR with a hip injury and something on his throwing hand. There's something wrong with his throwing. I don't know what the injury is.
Mike Ryan
There are so many people, though, as we put a ribbon around this, that are around college football, that are college football lifers, because you have to be built a certain way right now to be about this college football life. I'd handicap it at, like, 80% of the coaches and the people around college football desperately want to get to the pros, because this shit is crazy, right? So Bill Belichick and his buddy Mike Lombardi think that they could it is so hilarious. People are loving this. They thought that they could just stroll into the wild world of college football and dominate and people kept receipts. That's right, Mike Lombardi, we all remember when you tweeted not sure how Mario Cristobal faces his team today. There is coaching malpractice and then there is coaching malpractice squared. This one will go down. As an all timer, you cannot cure this. I feel pretty cured down here in Coral Gables. Mike, where's your cure?
Billy
Okay, two things is to an ir. Yeah. Did you just break news that two is.
Dan Le Batard
I. I'm sorry, I meant on the injured list, not the. Not the official on the injury list. My fault. If I said injured reserved. I did not mean to say injured reserved.
Billy
Now if that comes out in a couple of days, we know Dan was in the know and he wasn't supposed.
Mike Ryan
To say something happened to no Lord's time zone.
Billy
Also, Bill Belichick is embarrassing him. Like, he's not going to get a chance because of the what's happening on the field.
Jeremy
Not off the field.
Billy
If we're going to be honest. Like, Bobby Petrino still got another chance after horrible off the field.
Jeremy
So I'm.
Billy
But they'll abide by embarrassing off the field behavior. If you keep winning, you know what, you get destroyed on the field. They're like, you know what?
Mike Ryan
Maybe too far going on though. It's so that's the difference. Bobby Petrino had to like, get some separation from that and had to like, clean up his image somewhat and had to have success. Like. But this stuff is still like, he's in Nantucket right now. If we're with Jordan.
Billy
Okay. But if we're being honest, his embarrassing off the field behavior is just. He's dating someone substantially younger than him. But it's not like he's not committing crimes. It's not like adultery. It's just like people are uncomfortable with the age difference.
Mike Ryan
It's not that. It's not that. It's that she is totally taking over, like the public relations. She is fully embedded within that program.
Tony
She's on the field.
Mike Ryan
There were 52.
Tony
Do you think Jerry Jones gonna be like, yeah, come on over. Like, let's hang out.
Mike Ryan
There were 52 Getty Images from that game. 27 of them were all of Jordan like this.
Billy
That says more about the photographers than it does about her.
Mike Ryan
No, it says how, like he could date who he wants to date and have them in the background. He's dated plenty in his life. We haven't really Known about it outside of a weird costume that gets aggregated occasionally. This is different. It's strange. Things go through Bill Belichick's girlfriend. It's weird.
Billy
Maybe she knows ball. I mean, who are we to say that a woman can't know football? Honestly, like, this is us showing our asses, I think.
Dan Le Batard
All right, stop with the asses and the ball. Let's just identify one thing that you're saying here and attack that. You mentioned Bobby Petrino. You're right that Bobby Petrino has been allowed to return to Arkansas as a coordinator, but he has not been allowed to do that while in a neck brace on a motorcycle with his affair on the back of the motorcycle while he's patrolling the sidelines or the skybox. Like, it. It does matter that this whole thing now follows Belichick in a way that makes it awfully nois around Belichick. What you're inviting beyond the football. Like, you have to be willing in order to make a choice like Bill Belichick to be so desperate that you think Bill Belichick can actually fix you in a couple of days or weeks. And maybe that's a desperation. That's possible. Joe Flacco is starting for the Bengals this weekend, so that kind of desperation can exist. But when you refer to this, these two people, Belichick and Lombardi, in their 70s, trying to be ahead of everyone else. I heard Katie Nolan yesterday on her serious radio show screaming. She was screaming at Mike Lombardi, who apparently, according to Katie Nolan, still uses a typewriter and is proud of still using a typewriter. Katie Nolan was screaming the phrase bring it into the modern age. I've never heard Katie Nolan this angry at Mike Lombardi for embarrassing what Belichick used to be. Do you guys realize that in the history of sports royalty, you will have a hard time finding for me anyone who's been unmasked like this this quickly. You're not going to find anyone who's been unmasked like this, but this quickly, that precipitous fall. Okay. There are more details on the Falcons job.
Billy
Been pretty bad.
Mike Ryan
He's coaching at lsu, though. He's still acting like this guy's Ryan Kelly. The Bill Belichick situation, all the cronies around him are perceived as jokes right now, but the pro game is different. That's why I think he should get out right now and just say, look, I found out that college football is just not for me. My skill set works for the pro game, and he works over the next few months when the hiring cycle begins to try to clean up the perception around his relationship. Understanding that Jordan's not going to be handling public relations when we get to the NFL. He can work on that. He needs to get out now because only more stories are gonna come out. It's only gonna seem more like a circus. And it's not like he's gonna add success to his name. It's not like he's gonna show proof of concept.
Dan Le Batard
The numbers that we're looking at so far, you realize that part of the problem here is being embedded in that program, in the huddle. There's no way that he is blind to. We've lost by a combined score of 120, 33. Like, that's not going to get fixed in the next. That's not going to get fixed in the next couple of months. There's no amount of scheming that he can do when he gets into the tough part of his schedule that's going to undo with these players. The fact that he's going to get his ass kicked that way the rest of the season. And given what he comes from, given the amount of success he's had over the 20 years, it's going to be really great to see one of the great people in sports who demanded accountability of others quit because he has to like, just be like. And it's not even his physical body. He demanded that out of the variables of the world, their physical bodies give it over to what it is that we're doing. Five games and he's already looking for an exit ramp is the most human thing in the world, but it's not the most football coach warrior thing in the world.
Mike Ryan
He was looking for an exit ramp before there was a game played. He was looking for ways out after he signed. I promise you this, I happen to know.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but the media game that he was playing five games ago is he would have gotten a very good job as soon as Jerry Jones got tired of Schottenheimer if he just spent the entire time talking about the sport instead of letting us watch. Oh, wait, it's not that you've got some sort of advantage over these people. You've been left behind.
Mike Ryan
Name a funnier person for this to happen to. For off field circus to derail a sterling career.
Billy
He seems happy to me. I gotta be honest with you. Like, this seems like the happiest he's been in a long time. He looked like a grump when he was there in New England. And now here, the pictures we see of him, it's like, these are massive distractions, but he seems like a happy guy.
Tony
He doesn't care about coaching at North Carolina.
Billy
That's why he's honoring his father. By the way, do you guys remember that? I was like, I'm coming here because my dad was a coach here. I'm wearing my dad's sweater, and it was like a whole thing. And I was like, I don't dad to be so proud of this.
Mike Ryan
Buddy, you can't go off of IG We've seen plenty of couples that look happy on the IG and that aren't happy. Hey, Jeremy, old buddy, old pal. Hey, Mike. I want to talk to you about Miller Lite. You and I have bonded over these last few weeks talking about our shared love of Miller Lite.
Jeremy
That's right.
Mike Ryan
A great partner of our show for practically its entire existence.
Jeremy
It's been a partner of this show since I was 10 years old, and.
Mike Ryan
It'S been around for 50 years, and they've been a part of our show for almost 20. We're approaching incredible partner status with Miller Light.
Jeremy
I mean, to think that people were celebrating at my bar mitzvah with Miller Lite as they were a partner of this show is pretty incredible.
Mike Ryan
You're talking about the moments that are made better by making those times, those special times. Miller Time. Jeremy, there's nothing like cracking open Miller Lite with your crew this football season. It's especially true. Whether it's a touchdown you didn't see coming or just arguing about fantasy lineups you already know you're gonna lose. Miller Lite has been the taste you can depend on for 50 years. Brewed for flavor with simple ingredients, rich toffee notes that iconic golden color. And here's a kicker. Jeremy, what's that? It's just 96 calories.
Jeremy
I still can't believe that we say it every week. I can't believe it.
Mike Ryan
It's just 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's the original light beer since 1975 and still hit indifferent five decades later. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. Carbs per 12 ounces.
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Dan Le Batard
Don Levitard Football.
Billy
Football, football.
Mike Ryan
Football, football, football.
Dan Le Batard
St.
Billy
This is the D Ler show with the St. Bill Belichick, I think, likes costumes as much as you, Dan. Like, we would hear about how much he loved, like, the Halloween parties, and Randy Moss would tell us, and then he'd show up dressed like a full pirate. Now we see him, like Gorman the fisherman or whatever, like, on the side catching his mermaid girlfriend. Like, this guy likes to party.
Dan Le Batard
I again, do not like costumes. Come on. My wife likes. My young bride likes costumes.
Mike Ryan
Wait.
Tony
It's the same situation over Belichick's house.
Mike Ryan
Dan, great job distancing yourself from what's going on with Belichick.
Dan Le Batard
So let me see if I can find this here. I haven't played it in a while. Let's see here. I'm gonna look for it. My eyesight is bad. Cause I'm get. The old dog is getting old. Did you guys remove my. Oh, here it is.
Billy
You don't get the show. You have glasses, you know.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but they're over here.
Billy
Oh, okay.
Dan Le Batard
They're over there. Thank you.
Billy
You call your glasses cheaters yet?
Mike Ryan
That's starting to happen to me. By the way, I looked at the phone a little bit too much. What's the score of that baseball game? And also, my back started hurting for zero reason.
Dan Le Batard
You're 40. It's not zero reason. It's because happy birthday to you. These are the kind of things that happen once you start entering this particular decade.
Mike Ryan
It happened to me, man. It's bad.
Dan Le Batard
Katie Nolan screaming on the radio because she was Screaming, get into the modern age. Can you please explain to me why Mike Lombardi is still using a typewriter? The benefits of that? Why is he pridefully telling people that he's still using a typewriter? What? I. Could any of you put this on the poll as well? Juju at Lebatard show right now? If I gave you two hours, could you go get a typewriter? Yes or no, could you go physically get a typewriter and find one in the next two hours?
Billy
I believe his explanation was, and I'll look it up just to confirm was something along the lines of if he uses a computer, he can very easily just erase and start over and make. And he can make mistakes and it doesn't make a difference because it can autocorrect. We're a typewriter. He has to meet more. More honed in to what he's doing so he makes fewer mistakes.
Mike Ryan
It's a dork is what it is, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, okay, you guys go with dork. I'm just really looking guy that's like.
Tony
Oh, I like records because they sound better. And it's like, okay, buddy, I've got 9, 000 songs.
Billy
All right? You're picking a bad fight here. You're gonna lose this.
Mike Ryan
I've got records.
Tony
Yeah, no, they sound great on my thing from 1967.
Mike Ryan
Okay. It doesn't sound better. The vinyl doesn't sound better.
Tony
It doesn't.
Mike Ryan
It sounds scratchy.
Tony
That's the whole point.
Billy
It's a needle hitting a cylinder.
Mike Ryan
It's the. It's the experience. It's a connection. As we get more and more digital, you have something physical, you have something tangible, it smells a certain way. That's what people like about vinyl. The scratchiness of the vinyl. That's part of the sonic experience there. But it doesn't sound better. Anybody who says that is full of shit.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please. Ebitard show. Does the record player make the music sound better? You're going to lose on public opinion. You guys may actually be right factually.
Mike Ryan
I have records.
Dan Le Batard
I got a bunch of records. But you may be right factually, but you don't think that poll's gonna come back agreeing with you and Mike, do you? That that poll for sure is going to come back with everyone saying that music does indeed sound better on a record.
Mike Ryan
It's impossible. I'm the biggest Jack White fan there is. He is largely responsible for the resurgence in vinyl and Taylor Swift is too. But he's so full of shit when it comes to that stuff. He also tried to lie and tell us that he didn't have a cell phone until last year. Like, come on.
Billy
It is a weird thing where, like, people try to say, like, it sounds crisper on vinyl than it might be. The only technology in the history of mankind that peaked 50 years ago and we've gone downhill with more technology somehow.
Mike Ryan
You ever listened to a song that you loved on headphones and you're like, wow, I didn't catch that part. Radiohead. What a wonder.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please, at LeBatard show as well, because I've got a handful of questions here. Getty took 57 photos of the Clemson UNC game and 23 of them were of Jordan Hudson.
Mike Ryan
How many of them were Steve Martin?
Dan Le Batard
You gave those numbers?
Mike Ryan
Actual numbers? I guess the remaining couple of Steve.
Billy
Martin pictures, he didn't have his cheaters on.
Dan Le Batard
All right, hold on a second. Let me do this here. Let me see. This is all.
Mike Ryan
Got the glasses on, minor penalty, two minutes for a contribution.
Tony
I mean, he's right.
Dan Le Batard
It was a shit.
Mike Ryan
Well, this will allow us to talk about Bad Bunny in the super bowl finally. So this is not going to wait for two weeks, Mike. So, like, there was a take that was talked about back here in the back row when it came to the super bowl that I think is not yet. It hasn't yet been explored by the mainstream media as it's become a culture war. Unfairly so. And Bad Bunny in his SNL monologue said, you've got four months to learn Spanish. And Billy mentioned something to me off air that I don't think people are really considering about this.
Billy
I saw a tweet that was. Was very one sided and you could guess which side of the aisle it was on where it was saying, you know, I speak Spanish. I still don't know what the hell Bad Bunny's saying.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what he's saying at all.
Billy
And look, they also said Bad Bunny's music is bad, which I don't agree with that.
Tony
Categorically false.
Billy
I like Bad Bunny's music, however, a little bit of a mumbler, if we're going to be honest, sometimes, which is like, that's a style. That's fine, it's still good music. But there are some times it's a little confusing as to what I've seen.
Tony
People on TikTok who are like, I'm Puerto Rican and I don't know what he's saying. And it's like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Mike Ryan
It's like, bjork it's like cigar roll. Like it's an invented language. Right? I don't know what you're saying.
Tony
It's the vibes. You don't have to worry about what he's saying. Yeah, just pick up the vibes. It's a beachy vibe. It's this vibe. It's that vibe. Let's hang out. Let's listen to Bad Bonnie.
Mike Ryan
It's just a good bead. We'll shake our hips vibing, you know.
Billy
Remember Gangnam Style? I didn't know what the hell Psy was saying.
Mike Ryan
No one did.
Billy
Yeah, people were singing it.
Tony
What does Gang of Style even mean?
Mike Ryan
I don't know. People liked it. It was fun. The style of gangster.
Tony
Have you seen him get shot out of that like tube thing?
Billy
Yeah, that's crazy.
Tony
I love that video.
Billy
What if he moves slightly to one side and he like hits his shoulder like on the bottom of the stage? Yeah, that'd be.
Tony
He gets shot up like 20ft in.
Mike Ryan
The air like he flew.
Billy
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Just look at the, the recent people that have performed at. At halftime. I don't know what Rihanna's saying either. I, I don't like the. The large complaint from the last halftime show was I don't know what he's saying. I can't understand. That's every super bowl halftime.
Ali Conley
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Like I was singing the wrong lyrics to Phil Collins songs for 40 friggin years. It's part of our relationship with music.
Tony
If they would have brought Metallica or some other band that other people like.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what the hell they're saying anyway. You think you can understand half of what James Hetfield is saying. You need to understand what the lyrics are. I need closed captioning to see what he's saying. Most of the songs are about shaking ass.
Tony
Thank you.
Billy
God bless an international language. Really?
Mike Ryan
Now you said it.
Dan Le Batard
You're not going to tell me that I'm wrong when I say the music that doesn't have that particular problem. Country music. You don't have any confusion about the lyrics in country music?
Mike Ryan
I don't have any connection points to red clay. I really don't.
Dan Le Batard
You don't have anything about red clay? You don't have any confusion about the lyrics in country music? There's no mumble rap. Although now, now those hippity hoppers are trying to get into country music.
Tony
They are.
Billy
They are.
Dan Le Batard
You've seen it.
Mike Ryan
Should be USA Music. Country music successfully.
Billy
Huh? We have the Mike Lombardi video if you want to know why he uses A typewriter.
Dan Le Batard
I do.
Billy
Straight from the horses.
Dan Le Batard
I do. Very.
Mike Ryan
Use this for a new resume, pal.
Dan Le Batard
Let's see it. Writer.
Ali Conley
Because it forces me to slow down. I have to think about what I want to write about. And the typewriter gives you that rhythm that you need to be able to slow your mind down and think. You're going to make mistakes, right? And also, on a computer, you can delete the mistake, but sometimes the mistakes that you deleted have. Have really powerful messages in them. And so when I first started to write my first book, I studied a lot of writers. A lot of them were using typewriters. And I worked for a guy named Ernie Acorsi in Cleveland, who was a former newspaper man, and he had a typewriter in his office. So I kind of got used to using it. And it helps me slow down and think, which ultimately is what this job is all about.
Mike Ryan
Thinking. There's a lot in this video I'd like to dissect.
Dan Le Batard
I. I have only one observation, because when you guys. When you guys told me you had the video of him at the typewriter, I did not have him typing just with two fingers. I didn't.
Tony
Oh, now, you see, you gotta be precise, Dan. You can't be typing all over.
Mike Ryan
That's one of the observations. Video team. The second observation that I have from this. Look at those beads on that wrist. Mike Lombardi, you're in it deep, pal. That midlife crisis is a crisis.
Dan Le Batard
And at 70. How old is he?
Billy
66.
Mike Ryan
Ooh. Well, I mean, graden. On the curve of understanding what's happening at North Carolina, that's good enough to get you someone in their mid-20s.
Dan Le Batard
That letterhead that he's using, the North Carolina letterhead. This is to type tiny notes, because.
Mike Ryan
That'S like a receipt that say, keep swimming on it. On his.
Billy
He's a big Dory fan. Good.
Mike Ryan
Keep swimming, pal, because you and Bill are a drowning. And also, final observation. He named his own book Gridiron Genius.
Ali Conley
Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
What a dork.
Dan Le Batard
I think that the wristband says keep swinging, not swimming.
Mike Ryan
I think I liked it better my way.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Billy
Oh, Keep swinging.
Dan Le Batard
I think. Well, yeah.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Billy
Huh.
Dan Le Batard
That is the wrist gear of somebody who swings, takes big swings.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. That is also the wrist gear of my dad, who is a career bachelor.
Dan Le Batard
Your dad is also 70, right?
Mike Ryan
He's taken plenty of hacks over his life.
Dan Le Batard
Your dad's. Your dad's a lothario. I would say your dad is somebody who walks into a room and knows that ladies of all ages are interested in his hair and his scent, his cologne.
Mike Ryan
He's a side kisser, too. Yeah. I got a beautiful FaceTime from my dad today. I'm like, dad, your face is so smooth. What's going on there? And I'm like, well, well, you're gonna have to start lying about my age now.
Dan Le Batard
The typewriter, man. The bragging about a typewriter is an interesting choice. The amount of arrogance. This is what we enjoy more than just about anything in public. Shaming, right?
Mike Ryan
Oh, I love this guy. In particular, being humbled. Cause I have heard stories about this guy, and it's not like his public front facing Persona is all that great either. This guy thinks he's smarter than everybody when. Just like everyone else, including the head coach, whose record is worse in the pros without Tom Brady than Dave Wanstadt's. And it's a hell of a lot worse in college. Everyone thinks they're so smart when they got the goat under center.
Dan Le Batard
It's not just that, though, because when Mike Lombardi says what he says, the number of flatulent, arrogant football people that I have heard summon the name of Ernie, of course, he. As if it means something like the number of. And it does. It does mean something. But using it as a patron saint for. Let me sell you my book here, let me hand you my book with these beads on my wrist. Gridiron grates that I wrote on a typewriter because. Because I heard wise words From Ernie.
Mike Ryan
Corsi 40 years ago on a man's wrist at a certain age. Or like rings around a tree stick like that's how. But instead of years, it's how deep you are into your midlife crisis.
Dan Le Batard
The thing that people enjoy in sports more than anything, though, it's one thing to be able to laugh at the arrogance of Bill Belichick, because at the very least, you know, it's earned arrogance. It's when it's the unearned arrogance of Mike Lombardi and his typewriter that's the thing we enjoy the most.
Billy
Goodness gracious.
Mike Ryan
Hey, Jeremy, old buddy, old pal.
Jeremy
Hey, Mike.
Mike Ryan
I want to talk to you about Miller Lite. You and I have bonded over these last few weeks talking about our shared love of Miller Lite.
Jeremy
That's right.
Mike Ryan
A great partner of our show for practically its entire existence.
Jeremy
It's been a partner of this show since I was 10 years old, and.
Mike Ryan
It'S been around for 50 years, and they've been a part of our show for almost 20. We're approaching incredible partner status with Miller Lite.
Jeremy
I mean, to think that people were celebrating at my bar mitzvah with Miller Lite as they were a partner of this show is pretty incredible.
Mike Ryan
You're talking about the moments that are made better by making those times, those special times. Miller Time Jeremy, there's nothing like cracking open Miller Lite with your crew this football season. It's especially true whether it's a touchdown you didn't see coming or just arguing about fantasy lineups you already know you're gonna lose. Miller Lite has been the taste you can depend on for 50 years. Brewed for flavor with simple ingredients, rich toffee notes, that iconic golden color. And here's a kicker. Jeremy what's that? It's just 96 calories.
Jeremy
I still can't believe that we say it every week. I can't believe believe it.
Mike Ryan
It's just 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's the original light beer since 1975 and still hitting different five decades later. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Episode: The Big Suey: The Beads of a Bachelor
Date: October 9, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Main Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz & crew (Billy, Mike Ryan, Tony, Jeremy, occasional mentions of Ali Conley)
This episode dives deep into the unraveling saga of Bill Belichick’s tenure at North Carolina, mixing in classic Dan Le Batard Show irreverence, debates on cultural greetings, legacy, aging, and the circus of sports media. The cast pokes fun at public figures, mocks sports conventions, and explores the awkwardness of Latin social customs—all while tracking the latest on Belichick’s cratering legacy and the eccentricities of his inner circle.
The crew explores the awkwardness of greetings in Latin and American cultures.
This episode is a fast-paced, irreverent, and self-aware mixture of sports analysis, cultural critique, and group therapy among friends growing older and reflecting on change. The tone is consistently sarcastic, playful, and combative—but never mean-spirited. The hosts embrace their Miami/Latin cultural roots while openly laughing at themselves and the absurdity of the sports world.
If you missed this episode: You’ll get incisive (if irreverent) takes on the rapid collapse of one of football’s greatest dynasties, insight into how sports and culture intersect in awkward and hilarious ways, and a reminder that sometimes losing gracefully is the hardest—and most human—challenge for even the best among us.