The Big Suey: The Block M

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: The Big Suey: The Block M

Release Date: March 18, 2025

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the team delves into a variety of topics spanning sports controversies, personal anecdotes, and lighthearted games. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn throughout the episode.

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1. Introduction to The Big Suey: The Block M

The episode kicks off with Dan and Stugotz engaging in their signature banter, touching upon everyday conveniences like buying a car through Carvana:

• Dan LeBatard [00:01]: "You, the person who agonized four weeks over whether to paint your walls eggshell or off white, bought and financed a car in minutes."

This sets a casual tone, leading into their routine segments before diving into deeper discussions.

2. 'Stump the Meech' – A Popular Segment

One of the episode's highlights is the continuation of the 'Stump the Meech' segment, celebrating the show's 20-year anniversary. In this game, guests attempt to decipher Stugotz's intentionally mangled pronunciations.

• Stugotz [03:52]: "John Amici can never tell what Stugotz is saying."

The segment features legendary guest John Amici struggling humorously to interpret Stugotz's jumbled speech, providing entertainment and showcasing the hosts' playful dynamics.

3. Michigan Baseball Player's Apology

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around a controversial incident involving a Michigan baseball player:

• Stugotz [20:11]: "The player is now apologizing for his behavior... 'I take full responsibility for what I did, and I am truly sorry to all those who I have negatively impacted.'"

The hosts debate the sincerity and impact of the apology, especially considering the player's actions of snorting (or mimicking snorting) the third baseline during a game. They engage in a dialogue about forgiveness and accountability, highlighting differing opinions on the appropriateness of accepting apologies without full contrition.

4. Tracy Morgan's Health Incident During NBA Game

The conversation shifts to celebrity Tracy Morgan, who experienced a sudden health issue during an NBA game:

• Elle Duncan [22:01]: "He was throwing up on the court... he has battled an assortment of health stuff."

The hosts express concern and emphasize the importance of not making light of such situations, showing empathy towards Morgan's struggles with health.

5. The Evolution of Communication: Losing Telephone Numbers

Exploring generational shifts, Dan and the crew lament the dwindling knowledge of telephone numbers:

• Stugotz [27:13]: "Do you guests know any telephone numbers? Yes or no?"

They joke about relying heavily on smartphones for communication, raising points about potential vulnerabilities when phones are inaccessible and reminiscing about the simplicity of memorizing key numbers.

6. Elle Duncan's Coverage of NCAA Women's Basketball

The episode features Elle Duncan discussing her role in ESPN's coverage of the NCAA Division I Men's and Women's Basketball Tournaments:

• Stugotz [33:06]: "She's leading ESPN's coverage on the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basket Women's Basketball Tournament."

Elle highlights the growing resources and dedicated staffing for women's sports, noting significant improvements in visibility and professionalism over the past decade.

7. Controversy Over West Virginia's NCAA Tournament Selection

A heated debate ensues regarding the West Virginia governor's outspoken criticism of the NCAA tournament selection committee:

• Greg Cody [35:49]: "West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament. This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest levels."

The hosts dissect the selection process, comparing it to previous instances where political figures interfered, such as Ron DeSantis's involvement with Florida State. They analyze the merits and biases in the committee's decisions, particularly focusing on the favoritism towards teams like the University of North Carolina (UNC) despite questionable current performance:

• Dan LeBatard [37:36]: "If you want to leave no doubt, build that resume throughout the year or win your respective conference tournament."

The discussion critiques the committee's perceived preference for historically prominent programs over current season performance, emphasizing the need for transparency and merit-based selections.

8. Game of "Douche or No Douche" with Elle Duncan

Adding levity to the episode, the hosts engage in the popular "Douche or No Douche" game with Elle Duncan:

• Stugotz [43:56]: "Do you person who takes their dog to the grocery store. Douche or no douche."
• Dan LeBatard [44:19]: "Douche. Disgusting. I don't want your dirty dog around food."

Through humorous scenarios, the hosts and Elle evaluate various behaviors, fostering a fun and interactive segment that entertains listeners while showcasing their chemistry.

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Notable Quotes

• Stugotz [25:30]: "Do you, do you have any telephone numbers? How many telephone numbers does Elle Duncan know?"

• Greg Cody [35:54]: "The tar Heels went 1 in 12."

• Dan LeBatard [37:36]: "They are supposed to excuse themselves when it comes to these conversations."

• Elle Duncan [34:02]: "Women’s sports were always an add-on, and now they're getting full-time resources."

Concluding Remarks

Throughout the episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz adeptly balance serious sports analysis with humor and personal anecdotes. They tackle contentious topics like NCAA tournament biases and personal accountability in sports, while also engaging in lighthearted games that resonate with their audience. The inclusion of Elle Duncan provides depth to the discussion on women's sports, highlighting progressive changes in media coverage.

The Big Suey: The Block M serves as a testament to the show's enduring appeal, combining insightful commentary with the hosts' unique perspectives, making it both informative and entertaining for listeners.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

Why are you listening to this show?

[Dan LeBatard]

The podcast that seems very similar to.

[Greg Cody]

The other Dan LeBatard podcast.

[Stugotz]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Greg Cody]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Stugotz]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.

[Greg Cody]

And now here's the marching man to nowhere Fat Face and the habitual liar.

[Stugotz]

Juju did a great job with all of that unrivaled stuff. It is a great idea. Just a couple of concentrated months of basically it's the bubble. It's put all of these players in a part of town that they would not normally be and just intensely have them compete and do work and make more money on the side. As part of our 20 year anniversary celebration because many of you are demanding more Stugats. We expect him back soon, but he's following his daughter around the country. Where was he the other day? I asked this yesterday. He was along the college baseball path for some reason and I was not surprised when I saw him in Syracuse, given that one of his daughters goes to Syracuse. But I was surprised to see him at a college baseball game.

[Chris Cody]

You're asking us if we know where Stugatz is?

[Greg Cody]

It looked like a Northwestern baseball field. It was the standard patent Stugarts two armed selfie where he's clearly holding his phone with two arms. God, I love that. It's adorable every time, I have to admit. But yeah, I have no idea where he currently is.

[Stugotz]

As part of the Were you going to say something there, Billy, before you take all right, good. All right, good. I'm glad that you just looked like you were going to say something and then didn't say anything. Let's go to a Behind the bit here as part of our 20 year celebration. Stump the Meech is always something that is popular. John Amici, one of our most popular guests, one of our smartest guests, can never tell what Stugatz is saying.

[Elle Duncan]

This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit.

[Stugotz]

For the past 20 years you've seen and heard bits on the Dan Lebatar Show. You may have wondered to yourself, what are these bits? What's wrong with these people?

[Dan LeBatard]

Who is John Amici?

[Elle Duncan]

John Amici was a former NBA player and just a very intellectual man who I don't want to say doesn't have a sense of humor because I don't think that's fair to John. But John takes himself more seriously than we would take ourselves, I would say. And John Amici is someone who would probably not be hanging out in the same circles as Stugots per se. So he's a very well read man. He's. He was, he wasn't knighted officially, but he has like a British royal title of sorts and just is into very smart things that go above the head of all of us.

[Mike Ryan]

Levy scored the first ever points at the Miami Heat's newer arena. He was a close friend of Dan's. He made headlines once he retired when he penned a book where he came out to the nation. John Amici had A really strong relationship with Dan. They were good friends, and he was someone that was always so intelligent and wonderful to have them weigh in on big, important societal topics on our show. You can never have enough smart people surround your show, Especially when you have stair weighing the median average down. John, when he met Dan, took him.

[Stugotz]

To a gay bar. And Dan did not know that he was gay despite bringing him to a gay bar. You didn't suspect that, like, this is a place to go? Like, okay, but yeah, that was pretty.

[Mike Ryan]

Funny thinking about that. But yeah, like, John is just like.

[Stugotz]

Bomani, one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. He's a constant ally, and we are ally of him and just all around good man.

[Elle Duncan]

So we thought, let's play a game and waste John's time and have him try to figure out what it is that stugatz who's not well, read what he's trying to say mid sentence, mid thought. Sometimes he just ejects in the middle of the word. Sometimes he just mispronounces words. So what we would do is we would save a bunch of clips of stugots just not saying words the right way and then horrify John amici who speaks perfect English. And John was terrible at this game. And I think he was frustrated because, you know, as an NBA player, as someone who's a successful businessman, he has succeeded at many things in life. And this is just one that we knew he was not gonna succeed at. And I think it drove him nuts that this dude dumb game always got the best of him. And it was really unfair. I mean, some of the words that we would play for him are four or five syllable words that stugats would condense down into one syllable and then move on to his next train of thought. So John never really stood a chance in this game.

[Stugotz]

What is the first mispronuncification from stugat? Dallas or analysis?

[Dan LeBatard]

See, I think it's Dallas, but that's too simple. Analysis.

[Stugotz]

That's what I would have guessed.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow, spot on.

[Stugotz]

That's. That is. That would have been my guess. Formula.

[Mike Ryan]

It's either formula.

[Stugotz]

But having said that, I can't imagine.

[Mike Ryan]

A context in which Stugarts would have.

[Stugotz]

To say that word.

[Dan LeBatard]

Formidable.

[Stugotz]

All right, you are overthinking this.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's formidable. Despite Dan trying to help you out, it is formula.

[Stugotz]

Well, come on now.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've. I've absolutely got nothing.

[Mike Ryan]

Drawer.

[Stugotz]

That is a tragedy right there. Hermaphrodite. Oh, hermaphrodite.

[Mike Ryan]

Hermaphrodite.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

Of course. Ah, there we go. Of course. What do you mean? Oh, God, Most.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I hate you so much right now.

[Stugotz]

Most.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it most or is it.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not my final answer. I'm gonna go with mist.

[Mike Ryan]

Its most.

[Stugotz]

Oh, my God. Holy.

[Mike Ryan]

I was robbed.

[Stugotz]

You were not robbed. You made your own decision. I'm sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

That was robbed.

[Stugotz]

You made your own life choices. You had victory in your hands and you let it go.

[Chris Cody]

How did this one start?

[Stugotz]

Stugot just pronounces things very poorly for broadcast. And John Amishi is so smart to the idea of him trying to guess what language it is I'm speaking. Yes. And what words are coming out of my mouth. It's funny. It's such a great idea because all it is is us. Things that have been said in the natural flow of Stu Gotz broadcasting as Stugatz. And he doesn't finish all of his words and he tries to get to the next thought a little faster before he's finished the other one. Small windows. And so words get jumbled up. And so we had an endless library of things that Stugatz had mispronounced. What I always loved about that segment is Mike would give him an easy one like a fastball right down the middle just so he can gain some confidence.

[Greg Cody]

I think this is the time I'm.

[Stugotz]

Going to win the game. Meech has never won the game.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did he win once?

[Stugotz]

Well, he claims he's won. The only times he's won is when we've made terrible mistakes somehow. Right. It's not because he ever deserves to win, but Mike would groove the first one or two win and then the next three, change ups, curveballs, everything. And Meech is swinging. That's trailing and falling to the ground. He can win. He can't win that. Undefeated. He always wins.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan and Stu talked about it being like a palate cleanser.

[Stugotz]

Did you create this bit, Mike?

[Mike Ryan]

I just knew that we needed a device. Our show is really good at getting people in the tent and with nonsense. And then while they're in the tent, we'll have an important discussion and you're going to be sitting there not really understanding what you're sitting through, because we've already put it in your head that we're just going from laugh to laugh. And there's going to be important societal discussions along the way. But you're going to enjoy the journey. So we knew that we needed to do something to dress it up. We had come up with games to play with guests. There was this game that we had called douche or no douche that we had in our back pocket anytime we needed to spruce up an interview or we weren't exactly sure where to take the interview. And I really liked having that as a device. And I knew given how strong Dan and John's relationship was and knowing how playful John was and how much he liked our show and. And like Stu Gotts as a character, I knew he'd be down for this. So it was all about tracking the mispronunciations as it would happen. And we started building up quite the arsenal. I'm proud of that, of that folder. Roy had a very good ear for it. We'd. We'd all kind of market like anytime Stagats misspoke, put that in the sum the Meech file. And we had to immediately write down what we thought Sugats was trying to say because absent context, there was no way that we were going to figure out what Stugatz was going to say. I mean, some of these clips were really ridiculous.

[Stugotz]

I mean, after 20 minutes of super serious conversation with Dan, you need something we would. It's a little bit of sorbet. A little bit of sorbet at the end of a societal conversation that makes your head hurt. It was like a treat for a dog. Yeah. Thank you for giving us 20 minutes of serious shit.

[Greg Cody]

Here's two guts.

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[Stugotz]

Dan LeBatard.

[Billy Gill]

It's all about me.

[Stugotz]

Stugats.

[Elle Duncan]

This is the Dan LeBatard show with the Stugats.

[Stugotz]

Elle Duncan is going to be here shortly. We should play douche or no douche with her. We have not done that game in a while. I want to play for the audience. Some sound here of a West Virginia politician. The governor, Patrick Morrissey, really just pandering. It's a great way to get your constituency on your side to stand in front of a sign that says National Corruption Athletic association, the ncaa. This is West Virginia's governor going very strong at North Carolina and the NCAA tournament. For. For a West Virginia school that probably could have made the tournament if in the first game of their conference tournament, they hadn't lost to 3 and 17 Colorado.

[Greg Cody]

West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament.

[Stugotz]

This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest levels.

[Greg Cody]

Now, who was the last team to.

[Stugotz]

Get into the tournament ahead of the Mountaineers? That would be the University of North Carolina. Now let's see how their resume stacks up.

[Greg Cody]

The tar heels went 1:12 in quad.

[Stugotz]

One games and even had a quad three loss. Jessica, why are you making a face? The National Corrupt Athletic association is the sign that he's standing in front of.

[Chris Cody]

If you were a player on West Virginia, this would embarrass you, right? Like you would. You don't want this. Like, obviously you want to make the tournament, but you didn't. You lost some games that you needed to win to. To make it in. But then if you saw this, you'd be like, okay, wait, can we just back up a second?

[Stugotz]

You think so? You think that the. The players don't appreciate some support that they probably agree with?

[Billy Gill]

I agree with Jess. I think it's an embarrassment to the university that the guy. I mean, maybe if the athletic director wants to say that or the head coach, that's their domain. But the governor go, hey, Governor, you don't have anything more important going on in your state that you need to worry about than one of your college teams not making the tournament.

[Chris Cody]

Sub 500 teams since January 1st like this. I understand being upset that, you know, we do this in college football all the time. The teams that don't get in and the head coach or the athletic director or the conference commissioner advocates for them and goes on ESPN and complains and blah, blah, blah. But like the governor of the state is doing it and it's like that if I were a player, I would be like, okay, you know what? Fair. But I should have made my free throws.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. That's beneath the governor's office. It really is. I'm not even saying saying that.

[Stugotz]

It's not just that he's saying it. It's the language is so strong on what he's saying. Like, what are you actually saying for things that are miscarriages of that are egregious as opposed to this one that begins with you losing your last game to a team that was 3:17.

[Greg Cody]

West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament.

[Stugotz]

This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest levels.

[Greg Cody]

Now, who was the last team to.

[Stugotz]

Get into the tournament ahead of the Mountaineers? That would be the University of North Carolina. Now let's see how their resume stacks up.

[Greg Cody]

The tar Heels went 1:12 in quad.

[Stugotz]

One games and even had a quad three loss. The rest of politics is so pure these days that that really stands out as shameless.

[Chris Cody]

That's true. Yeah. Also, Ron DeSantis did get involved when Florida State got snubbed from the CFP last year, which again, if I were a Florida State player, I'd probably be.

[Stugotz]

Like, getting involved is different than calling it the height of robbery.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. And standing behind the word corrupt. No.

[Greg Cody]

Government officials had to get involved when UCF claimed their national championship. You just go ahead, you take it from the people, you claim what's rightfully yours, and you move on with your head held high.

[Stugotz]

No politician thought that you could get a single vote based on supporting UCF during its undefeated season with pandering.

[Billy Gill]

And here's one more thing for the, for the governor of West Virginia. If I'm on the selection committee and it's a tiebreaker, this school or that school for the last invitation. Gee, it's a no brainer that you're going to take North Carolina, which has a rich history in college basketball, over West Virginia. So West Virginia blew this on different levels.

[Chris Cody]

No, but I think also like North Carolina was one lane violation from beating Duke like that. I understand why people are mad North Carolina got in. But also like the. They played well in the conference tournament and they almost upset the best team in the conference. So I understand it. Like, obviously you have to make hard choices. When you're talking about bubble teams in any sport like you are, you're splitting hairs. Right. Because if they were for sure in the tournament, you wouldn't have to have this debate about them being on the bubble or not. But you're splitting hairs. But quad two wins, quad one wins, net rankings, all this conference tournaments, upsets, who they've lost, you how many losses they have. Like there's never going to be a great option. I understand people are mad because the, you know, Bubba Cunningham went as the athletic director at North Carolina. I understand all of that. I do understand why fans are upset about that. But like we are sort of splitting hairs here.

[Stugotz]

Okay. It's always splitting hairs when you get between 60 exactly and 69. And it's subjective, but I'm surprised to hear Greg Cody say what he's saying, which is merit doesn't matter. It's just North Carolina won a lot 10 years ago, so therefore they should be rewarded this year. I thought like yours. I understand what you're saying and it's the same thing that Taylor said yesterday when he's like, we're North Carolina and you're Boise State. But it's supposed to be merit based. Sports is supposed to be based on were you good this year or not? Not. Were you good 20 years ago?

[Elle Duncan]

I think one of the weird things about the North Carolina thing too, right? Is that this is like one of those weird, like play ins that they become an 11 seed. So they're not even necessarily one of the best 64. But if they. Then when they're like worst case, the 44th best team, okay, they get in.

[Billy Gill]

Correct me if I'm wrong, they get in. If they win that last game against a team with a three and 17.

[Stugotz]

Colorado. Yes. Okay, so gotten in.

[Billy Gill]

Zip your lip, governor.

[Stugotz]

There it is.

[Billy Gill]

You had a chance to get in.

[Stugotz]

Just one of the.

[Billy Gill]

And you blew it.

[Chris Cody]

Also, like North Carolina is not even in the bubble conversation. If they upset Duke, I think which we. We saw the end, that was a devastating way for that game to end. And I'm glad on that player's behalf it wasn't his last college basketball game because it was, it was tough. It was a tough scene.

[Greg Cody]

I have a fun stat. Billy said that if North Carolina wins, they become an 11 seed. 11 seeds over the past 10 tournaments have a winning record against the six seeds. So if you're making your brackets out there, look for those 11 seeds. I also have a correction from earlier. We mentioned Duke and Chris Cody and I were both pretty sure that Nike benefited from Zion Williamson. Quick correction. That game was on February 20, 2019. By February 25, 2019, Nike had lost $1.1 billion in stock. What about A year after. Let's go like the long term effect on it now.

[Stugotz]

Another correction that we want to make is that we said yesterday on the show that the Michigan baseball player who we think tripled and then tried to snort the third baseline, we did not think that was going first to third on a single to right field. We didn't think it was stealing third. Bas thought it was a triple and then snorting the third baseline. That player is now apologizing for his behavior. I would like to apologize for my actions on third base yesterday. I made an immature decision in the heat of the moment. The gesture I made does not reflect my character, the household I was raised in, or the block m that I represent in any kind of way. I take full responsibility for what I did, and I am truly sorry to all those who I have negatively impacted by doing this. How many were negatively impacted? Can we get, by the way, the video of that to show of him clearly? And now we have confirmation because you guys were saying maybe he wasn't doing what it looked like he was doing. He was indeed snorting or pretending to snort the third baseline. Who did that negatively impact?

[Chris Cody]

My children were sobbing at the tv. They were so upset.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know about you guys, but I accept his apology. Let's let him have a second chance. Who's with me?

[Stugotz]

Okay, very good. It's good that you're forgiving. Billy, you mentioned earlier Tracy Morgan, and you didn't offer anything in the way of context. Anybody in terms of details? He threw up during the game yesterday of the Knicks and the Heat and then had to leave during the game. And he has battled an assortment of health stuff. So I don't want to make any fun of this, but I don't know any of the details except what I just said to you.

[Elle Duncan]

Yeah. From what I came out yesterday, it seemed like he had a nosebleed and he started throwing up. He was courtsite. He was throwing up on the court. There was a delay. And. And yeah, like, unfortunately, he's been dealing with a lot of stuff, so we shouldn't make light of the situation. So I also want to apologize for anyone that may have taken offense to my actions earlier and may have been negatively impacted by what I said. And, you know, I represent the block m here as well, and I don't want to. I don't want to really be representing things that way. So I'm sorry.

[Stugotz]

Did he throw up on the court?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Elle Duncan]

Oh, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Very graphic. We're not gonna. We're not gonna show it because it's ugly.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

And the nosebleed, it delayed the game.

[Chris Cody]

For, like, 10 minutes, too. And then he had to get wheeled out in a wheelchair. It was very, very. Yeah, he's.

[Elle Duncan]

I. I'm concerned about him.

[Greg Cody]

Same.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, yeah. You got to be.

[Greg Cody]

Speaking of the block M. Mitch Voight. So he issues this apology, right? That was 23 hours ago as of right now, but 16 hours ago. He's then named Big Ten Player of the week. So I sort of wonder, was it like a, hey, you're going to be named Big Ten player of the week, but we need you to apologize first. But over the weekend, he had five doubles, 12 ribbons, six runs scored, 12 hits. He had a.667 batting average.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is amazing.

[Chris Cody]

Conference dangles player of the week over his head and is like, you got to a what?

[Greg Cody]

I'm just saying, look, Michigan might not have wanted that representing their Big Ten player of the week. And they said, hey, you represent the block M. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Without him. Without him, no one would associate Michigan and cocaine.

[Elle Duncan]

I think the funny thing about his apology, right, Is, like, the people that would have been offended by what he was doing, you'd then have to explain to them what he was doing and why they should be offended by what he was doing, right? Like, so if it's like, oh, think of the children. It's like, so you're gonna sit down, children. You're gonna explain cocaine use to children and why this is a problematic action by him.

[Billy Gill]

The worst possible apology, quote, unquote, is when you say something like, he did, which is, oh, that's not me. That's not part of my character. That's not who I am. Yeah, apparently it was because you did it. He's not 15 years old. If somebody in high school does that, they have the immaturity excuse. Five years later that that card doesn't play as well.

[Stugotz]

He didn't actually say it. It was just the Notes app apology that. That I read.

[Greg Cody]

Apparently, we all don't forgive him.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, not everyone is in a forgiving mood around here. You guys were fine, but it would appear that Greg Cody is not quite as lenient as you guys are about Michigan baseball and snorting. Snorting third base lines. He is. He is taking a hard stance on this, and he doesn't. He thinks this is the problem with America is that you guys accept these apologies and then go straight to forgiveness after someone has snorted the third baseline.

[Greg Cody]

Have you ever done a notes app apology?

[Billy Gill]

Dad, I don't know what notes app means.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, this Kid was born in 2004. I feel like he can get away with the immaturity excuse.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Okay, so he's 21.

[Chris Cody]

That's a ridiculous age to be born.

[Greg Cody]

Not even 21 yet.

[Stugotz]

20.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, people born in the 2000s, mid 2000s, in college.

[Stugotz]

He might not have even lost his virginity yet.

[Dan LeBatard]

Aw.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, let's talk about when everybody else lost their virginity.

[Chris Cody]

Dan, you go first.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Stugotz]

Would have been my junior year of college. How old was I in my junior year?

[Billy Gill]

So you were my age at 20. This guy.

[Greg Cody]

19.

[Stugotz]

I mean. No, it's not 20.

[Greg Cody]

It's 20.

[Stugotz]

19. 20.

[Billy Gill]

You were a junior at 19?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, something like that.

[Billy Gill]

Did you skip your sophomore year or what?

[Stugotz]

But now you have your answer. Now what do we do? You just stare at me and imagine me having sex.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, no, I don't.

[Stugotz]

Okay, good. I'm glad we did that. It's good for the whole audience. You guys mentioned not playing the video of Tracy Morgan throwing up. Is that something that also would risk making others throw up? If you. What are the things in both video form or in community that are contagious? Like yawning is said to be contagious. Is vomiting something that can be contagious? If I show you video of someone vomiting, am I going to get others all of a sudden vomiting? You guys have decided as a editorial decision not to play Tracy Morgan vomiting.

[Chris Cody]

I'm glad we make those. I didn't know we actually did that around here. That's good. Hey, video team, pat yourselves on the back. Or Chris, whoever did that.

[Billy Gill]

I feel bad for the person two seats down who paid, you know, $1,800 for courtside seats.

[Greg Cody]

That's a great story.

[Billy Gill]

And all of a sudden, he's smelling the vomit of a famous person.

[Greg Cody]

Imagine, like the conversations that will start, though years down the road of how was that. That game? Oh, remember when he threw up?

[Stugotz]

I was.

[Greg Cody]

I was two seats over. Smelled terrible.

[Chris Cody]

The person two seats over is like Ben Stiller.

[Stugotz]

So when Greg Cody says that he. He doesn't know what a Notes. What a Notes app is. I wanted to ask you guys a question based on a story I was telling a couple of. I had mentioned the game in which. The Monday night game in which Derek Thomas was ejected because he just kept getting penalties because of whatever it is that Shannon Sharpe was saying to him. And Shannon Sharpe has said that he will never reveal what it is that was being said in that game that made Derek Thomas so insane. But some others have speculated whether it is true or not that it was a trash talk that involved a woman and more specifically that it was just him repeating a telephone number over and over again. Now, again, I don't know what is true here, but I want to ask Greg, Cody and the rest of you, do you guys know any telephone numbers anymore? Do you, do you, any of you know telephone numbers? Because I know about three or four important telephone numbers and then if my icloud wasn't backing stuff up, I would be proper bleeped on just about everything because I don't know any telephone numbers. How many telephone numbers do you guys know?

[Greg Cody]

I know my childhood house one. I know my wife's number. I know my dad's number and my mom.

[Chris Cody]

Just the emergency numbers, right?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. And sharing contacts. You're right. We've lost this.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, that's true.

[Stugotz]

We've lost all our recipes at Le Batard show. Put it on the poll. Do you know any telephone numbers, yes or no?

[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Wow. What's up? I just bought and financed a car through Carvana in minutes. You, the person who agonized four weeks over whether to paint your wall's eggshell or off white, bought and financed a car in minutes. They made it easy. Transparent terms customizable down and monthly.

[Stugotz]

Didn't even have to do any paperwork.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wow. Mm.

[Chris Cody]

Hey, have you checked out that spreadsheet I sent you for our dinner? Options finance your car with carvana and experience total control financing subject to credit approval.

[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard.

[Billy Gill]

Quiet man.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in back in my stugats, I wish you were here. My wife, I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married, you know, you're not allowed to say, I don't marry, miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm 30 seconds. You know, what am I. Hello? All right. All right, we'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm gonna see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie.

[Elle Duncan]

Good. This is the Dan lebatar show with.

[Dan LeBatard]

The St.

[Stugotz]

Elle Duncan joins us now. We're going to talk tournament and other stuff with her because I just enjoy talking to her about anything that's going on. Do you want to play that sound for her, Chris Cody of the last time she was on and said she called you something that is not your name so that we can get a formal apology that you have not yet forgiven her for.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

The last time Elle joined us off air before we started, I was like, oh, hey, Elle, how's it going? And she said this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, hey, what's up, Greg?

[Greg Cody]

She called me Greg.

[Billy Gill]

Good mistake.

[Greg Cody]

Dad's name.

[Billy Gill]

I like that.

[Greg Cody]

I get it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I forgive her now.

[Greg Cody]

Jessica makes me play this sound like once a week.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, hey, what's up, Greg?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, hey, Greg.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do my defense. I think I was looking at your dad. I know that you're Chris. I know that. But I think I was looking at your dad and then I heard. So I was like, what's up, Greg?

[Greg Cody]

That's a good attempt at a save, but I don't think he was in that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he wasn't in that day. That's okay, though. It was good. It's good work by you. It's all right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hey, what's up, Greg? Thank you.

[Billy Gill]

I appreciate that. I was in that thing. A hologram of me was sitting here.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Sorry.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love you, Chris. I love. I love all the Cody's. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's fine. I listen, the other day I called my husband Xander, who's my son, and it creeped him out. So don't feel bad.

[Stugotz]

Do you, do you have any telephone numbers? How many telephone numbers does El Duncan know?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I was shaking my head going like this when you were asking that question. I know. Same thing as Chris, not Greg. I know my childhood. Hey, what's up, Greg? I know my childhood numbers for a house that no one lives at anymore. And then I know my husband's, my mom and my dad's and that would be it for me. So anybody else? Like, if I don't have my phone, I'm effed.

[Billy Gill]

I actually remember the phone number of my childhood house, 1440, which I haven't lived in in 55 years.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll as well. I think most people might at Lebatard show. Do you remember the number at your original home at Lebata show? Yes or no is the question. L. How often do you use your phone as a phone? Because one of the things that I'm super interested in as we've evolved is the sheer number of people who get annoyed when their phone rings like a phone and has have no interest in actually using it as anything other than a computer.

[Dan LeBatard]

I realized I was washed. Maybe like, I mean, I've known that I'm washed, but I realized like a couple months ago my phone started ringing and I was like, who the is calling me this late? It was like 7:45. So I don't, I don't, I don't like when people call me. And then it also annoys me when people text me. So in general, I'm learning I just don't like communication with people at all.

[Stugotz]

I should tell people, incidentally, that she's obviously been a mainstay on SportsCenter for nearly a decade. She's the host of the Elle Duncan show on ESPN and she's leading ESPN's coverage on the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basket Women's Basketball Tournament beginning Wednesday, March 19. And the tournament is featuring more games on AB and ESPN than ever been before. How are you seeing the change around your coverage? Because ESPN has been the exclusive home for almost 30 years for the women's tournament. So what have you seen change over the last 10 years?

[Dan LeBatard]

I think probably the outside interests like me and Andrea Carter and Janae Gumaque were on Good Morning America yesterday. And like real GMA, not like GMA3 or GMA weekend, like proper one, like sitting across from Robin Roberts. So I would say that like people wanting to have us at events or wanting me to host events purely because of my connection to women's Basketball, I think, you know, you guys have all been in the industry a long time. You always had to come into whatever respective network it was. It was promising that you knew NFL, that you knew maybe NBA. Like, you had to cover the men's sports. And then women's sports were always an add on, right? It was like, okay, and then in addition to do your main stuff, you'll also do, you'll dabble in women's sports. And now we're starting to see, I think networks, ESPN and other ones as well that are staffing specifically for women, that are giving it to people as their full time jobs as opposed to an add on or a side hustle that they do. So in terms of what I do, I think it's just not just the interest, but the resources behind it, you know, like the women's even. When I took on this space four years ago, it was sort of a breeding ground for like, new people. You know, it's like you come and like, you learn your chops and you go through your, your whatever on the women's side. And now we're getting, you know, the best of everyone, the best graphics people, the best researchers, the best producers. So I just think it's, it's how much more interest, but also just how much more resources are put behind it.

[Stugotz]

I want to play for you some sound from West Virginia's governor here, standing in front of a sign, the National Corrupt Athletic association here to get both your reaction to this and to ask you whether the women's game has had more controversy than the men's game this year. Because this is the big controversy from the men's game.

[Greg Cody]

West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament.

[Stugotz]

This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest levels.

[Greg Cody]

Now, who is the last team to.

[Stugotz]

Get into the tournament ahead of the Mountaineers? That would be the University of North Carolina. Now let's see how their resume stacks up.

[Greg Cody]

The tar Heels went 1 in 12.

[Stugotz]

In quad one games and even had.

[Greg Cody]

A quad three loss.

[Stugotz]

What are you laughing about, Elle?

[Dan LeBatard]

So silly. This is so silly. I love when, like, I love when politicians try to cosplay as, like, irrational, angry fans. How much, how many West Virginia games we think that dudes watched this year? You know, like, how, how, how, like, where's West Virginia in terms of public school rankings? Because I think they're like 35th in the United States. Where, where's your outrage for that? Like, where's your outrage for literally anything else that's happening in the country right now? But this Is your sticking point, like, you're pissed about this. Here's what I would say. If you want to leave no doubt that is completely in your hands to leave absolutely no doubt. You either build that resume throughout the year or you win your respective conference tournament. And then you don't have to worry about the corrupt committee. I don't agree with a lot of their opinions. I know that a lot of this is because I believe the AD for UNC is the committee chair, and this happens across all of sports, is that if there's a selection committee, they typically come from a school. They're supposed to excuse themselves when it comes to these conversations. But the truth is, like, anybody in this space. Dan called this a little bit ago. We had Tom Crean on our show just the other day before the UNC Duke game, and he basically said, like, if uncle fights a little bit and tries hard, if all things are equal, they're always going to go with a blue blood. And that's because of ratings.

[Stugotz]

Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, they're always going to go with a blue blood team, like a UNC with the hopes that they'll face a Duke, and that would be a ratings bonanza. Do I think that UNC was deserving based on their resume? Not really. I think they're one in 12 and quad one wins. Nobody even knows what that actually means. But. But like, like whenever politicians do this, it's so annoying to me because you don't care. You don't actually care. You're just trying to rally up your base, curry a little bit of favor, but you don't care. And there are certainly more important things in the state of West Virginia that need to be addressed.

[Stugotz]

Well, but somebody who does care about her seating is USC coach Lindsay Lindsey Gottlieb, who says, I never thought I'd be a one seed and feel disrespected, but I thought the committee. I thought there would be very little chance that we'd be the number four overall. Number one. You agree with that? Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Yeah. When we saw this bracket, I was like, like, ooh. We talked to the committee after we got the bracket. We get the bracket right before the show airs because we do have to build graphics and things like that. Spoiler alert to the folks at home. We don't learn in real time, so we get a chance to just debrief with them before the show. And. And they claim that they don't look at those kinds of things. Potential rematches from a year ago. They don't look at, you know, what would Be, we feel. And. And as TV people robbing people of a potential Final four matchup between two of the faces in the league in UConn and USC. But, yeah, she's looking at her bracket, and she's going. We earned a one seed, and you make us have the toughest path, because to get to the Final Four, we potentially have to go through UConn, a team that, by the way, ended their season last year when they were a 1 seed in the Elite Eight, and a team that they already had to face this year. And the thing about juju Watkins is she is incredible and otherworldly. She's also one of those players that the more you play her more, you sort of figure out a way to defend her. And so if I'm Lindsey, I'm. I'm absolutely upset. I know Dawn Staley was upset as well. She felt like they earned the right to be the number one overall seed. The thing that kills me with the committee is, is that sometimes it feels like they judge people by some criteria and then they don't judge them by the other. For example, Texas. We talked to them specifically about Texas, who got absolutely boat raced in the SEC Championship, who barely beat LSU in the semifinals, and LSU team that didn't have Anissa Morrow or Flage Johnson, which is like 45 points for them, and they didn't end the season particularly strong. She brought up UConn beating the brakes off of South Carolina as the reason that they didn't jump to that number one overall seed. But nobody finished the season out stronger than South Carolina. Notre Dame finished the season out incredibly poor, and they were punished by being on the three line, but they sort of just ignored Texas. So, you know, the criteria doesn't really tend to make a lot of sense to me. But I think that, yeah, Lindsey's upset because she sees what awaits her, and that's trying to get through another one of the best guards in the country to get to the Elite Eight.

[Billy Gill]

Well, do you agree with me, Elle? Because when I hear what she said, I think that's an odd attitude for a coach. I think most coaches would say, I don't worry about who we're playing. Bring it on, bring them on, we're going to beat whoever's in our path, or something to that effect, as opposed to complaining about, oh, we got a tougher road.

[Dan LeBatard]

I hear you, Chris. There we go. I had to get you back. I'm sorry. I hear you, Greg. I think, you know, they put these microphones in the face of these coaches Very quickly. I also think that she's trying to send a message to the committee. She did say a few times in that clip, like, I don't know how my team feels. I'm sure they just feel excited. We're hosting games. We got a big game, a big game coming up with UNC Greensboro to start the tournament. But I think she's just sort of expressing her frustration for feeling like, and here's my thing, we are still at a place like, the numbers are growing and we know that the games never had more attention, but we are still at a place where the committee should be keeping in mind potential matchups and what that means for ratings. And I think, like, it would have been nothing, you guys, to swap Texas and usc. Nobody would have thought twice about it because, yes, while UCLA ended up getting the best of them in the Big Ten tournament, USC had beat them twice previously. Handedly. Right. And so it would have made total sense to swap those two. And then not only do you not have to deal with a USC UConn matchup in the Elite Eight, but you also avoid, if everything goes chalk, you also avoid potentially having a Final Four matchup with two Big Ten rivals that will be facing each other for the fourth freaking time and two SEC rivals that will be facing each other for the fourth time. And as Rebecca Lobo said, that's not beautiful basketball. Like, when you face a team team four times in one year, it just doesn't. It doesn't typically lead to a great competition that's high scoring this beautiful basketball that we hope to see that helps expand and grow the game. I feel like the committee could have taken that into consideration. We said the same thing last year when we saw Iowa. LSU would be an Elite Eight matchup and not a potential Final Four matchup. It worked out in the end, and we got UConn in Iowa. We got two of the biggest faces in the, in the game, you know, playing each other. The ratings reflected it. It, as did the finals. But it just, it just would have been nothing to swap those two. And I don't, I don't. I agree with her. I don't know.

[Chris Cody]

I agree with you on the potential rematches in the Final Four if all the one seeds make it. I think that that is annoying. And to think for them to be like, well, we're not paying attention to that. But then they have TCU and Louisville in the same little section with Haley Van Lith for the second year in a row potentially playing her old school. I'm like, you are Paying attention a little bit, though, right? Like, I feel like I'm being gaslittle a little bit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah. Like, there's. There. Yeah, you build a little bit of that. And maybe you could say on one side that the committee says, well, we need these Elite 8 games to also have high ratings. Right. If you look at the bigger picture. So that is going to be a ratings bonanza. USC and UConn. But, yeah, that's my point, is that I don't really know. I'm with Lindsay Gottlieb and that, like, I would just love to just sit down and figure out what exactly they have to follow an S curve. There's things like that. There's a whole lot of other things that they have to do. They can't have conference opponents meet each other too early. I get that they're dealing with a lot of metrics and it's not an exact science, but it just feels like it would be very easy to manipulate these just a little bit to the point where, like, no one would know. It could be their secret. They could keep it to themselves. But ultimately, we get the matchups that we deserve.

[Stugotz]

Let's play a game of Douche or no Douche with El Duncan here. Give me my imaging. I haven't heard it for a while, and now it's time to play Douche or no Douche. Here's your host douche. Le person who takes their dog to the grocery store. Douche or no douche.

[Dan LeBatard]

Douche. Disgusting. I don't want your. I don't want your dirty dog around food. Yeah. Why? Gross. And I know you're gonna cook most of it, but, like, no. Especially the ones that, like, put them in a carrier so they have even closer proximity to the produce. Why do you need emotional support in the grocery store?

[Stugotz]

Do you Person who insists on talking to you about their fantasy team. Douche or no Douche.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't play fantasy football, But I have 1 million friends, and my husband's friends always try to talk to me about fantasy football. Here's what I'll say. The douchey ones are the ones that pretend like they just want to have a chat with you, but really they're trying to get into tell for fantasy or for betting.

[Stugotz]

Person who honks at you because you're texting at the stoplight. Douche or no Douche.

[Dan LeBatard]

No douche. That's me. Go. Why do I. You're holding me up because you're distracted. That. No. I'm very impatient in the car.

[Stugotz]

You need to drive A sideline reporter who finishes his sideline interview and then does this while watching Walking Away, pumping a fist because he's pleased with himself. Douche or no douche.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nailed it. No douche.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. Elle, it's me. Thank you for calling me not a douche. That I was nervous.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, we've all been there and, like, when we, like, feel like we, like, nailed something, we're like, let's go. I'll give, like a little subtle. Let's go. There we go.

[Greg Cody]

I reported the news. A subtle. Let's go.

[Stugotz]

L. It is nice seeing you. We look forward, as we always do, to your coverage. Good talking to you. You.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thanks for having me. Please have me anytime. And. Hey, Jess.

[Chris Cody]

Hey, girl. Hey.

[Greg Cody]

Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Tony.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Okay. All right. I know I gotta do this ad read, but hold on, let me reapply.

[Chris Cody]

Did you hear that?

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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